Also, the point of this video and all these other videos is tell the truth: That these people are/ were Black, not necessarily negroe or negroid, but Black. Yes, there is a difference. Look at the Negrito of the Phillipines or the Tamils of India. These people are Black, not African or Negroid. We have to dispel a common myth: That everything Black is either negroid or of African origin. More evidence is being found everyday that "Black" people inhabited this entire planet. IT'S THE MELANIN!!!
Well in that case the obvious question is "What is it, in this melanin which has relegated them from "ancient African civilizations" to Negritos, Haitians, near-famine in Nubia, favelas in South America, animal-like existence in New Guinea etc?"
@Euro And yes, I've been to Africa, where even African Americans are called "white" now. So, you asked for something concrete and paintings. So why would any Egyptian artifact contain Pharoahs who were painted "jet" Black? Again just using my common sense. The Europeans have a great history. We who seek the truth of African history in no way have challenged European history, just the European lack of perspective. This is our history, so it shouldn't concern you, unless you feel threatened by it
@Euro Excuse me for using my common sense, but almost every single artifact from Ancient Egypt contains figurines with Negroid features. Some, if not most, are completely Black. Last I checked, even through modern eyes, the peoples of Africa contain almost every variation of human traits known. Blue eyes? Curly hair? So Negroes can't have these features? Well, sorry to disappoint, but they do. Greco-Roman philosophy dominates your thoughts, but I know what my own eyes are telling me.
No they DON'T show Negroid features unless from the 25th Dynasty And if they are jet black, or gold or green then you know that they are not realistic, like the Fayum paintings.
You need not "check". If you go to Asia you see blond Russians touching China. You have Indians, Chinese, Iranians, Afghans, Tamils, all Asians. No Chinese, Indian or Russian would say "Last I checked people of Asia had almost every variation..."
So I don't see why American Negroes and West Africans want to believe, that "Africa", which is a 100% lazy, throwaway European concept anyway, somehow has some sort of "black, unifying centre". It hasn't. Most North Africans are Caucasoid (not European) and it hasn't happened because of "invasions" or "European slaves".If many Amazigh, Chleuhs, Riffians have blue eyes and fair hair and even more of them have a Mediterranean complexion and features it is because they're Caucasoid.
@EuroCivilization?Not all Lighter Skin people r mix, here is no mix of purely Africans: Igbo tribe,Guinea Conakry Fulani or Mali Tuareg,Bororo,Soninke,Nama People,Batswana Setswana,Tutsi,Tigray,Somali,Amharic Ethiopians r not de darker skin Mursi tribe in the southern region which have been widely exposed by Western Media,Lesotho,Swazi,Zulu,Xhosa,Niger Bororo,Tanzanians,Congolese Lingala or EAC Countries Swahili.Dark skin r Gambia,Ghana,Senegal,Southern Sudan,Côte d' Ivoire & Guinea Bissau.
Herodotus made clear ethnic distinctions between Aigyptios (Egyptians) and Aithiops (Ethiopians) … the term Aithiops became the standard Greek designation for the black peoples the “scorched faces” The Nubians were Aithiops, (Ethiopians), as were the black African peoples but not Egyptians. The use of these terms Aigyptios and Aithiops indicated an essential difference in the Greek perception.
The Guanches, the Berbers of the Canaries, were we are told, very tall, fair-haired and blue-eyed and certainly the people of the less inhabited outer islands look fairer on close inspection than the average Spaniard confirmed by paintings done at the time of the Spanish settlement there.
"Black studies" basically consists of looking up European history books, or sometimes Arab works, translated into English, looking for words like "dark" and then building up "ancient African civilizations" around them One idiot even thinks that the Bronte phrase "tall, dark and handsome" applied to Negroes!
Negrocentrics should go to North Africa and tell the Berbers that they were black but now because of European slaves they are white! You will be called not merely "abid" but "sursaar"
North Africans weren't and aren't Negroid. The Phoenicians and their offshoots the Carthaginians weren't Negroid. One has only to go to Algeria, Tunisia etc to confirm this. Tebessa people certainly are not Negroid. They are beautiful, white non-European, like their current beauty representative the gorgeous Moorish beauty from Tebessa Samah Gahfaz.
The Tuaregs, the most southerly Berbers live in uninhabited areas of the Sahara desert of Mali, Niger, Libya and Algeria.
The Tuaregs are a small Berber tribe. Unlike most Berbers who live in the north coast of North Africa or the mountainous regions beyond the coast, they live in the southern areas of Algeria &Libya and in the Black countries of Mali and Niger. The Tuaregs are notorious for having transferred millions of Africans to other Berbers & Arabs in the coastal areas (consult people from Niger & Mali.) The Tuaregs and their eklan (black slaves whom they sometimes breed with) rarely go beyond the Sahara
The Moors who created the Moorish culture in Spain were overwhelmingly Berbers with some Arabs. The Berbers (Chleuhs. Riffians, Kaybyles etc) have a higher percentage of green/blue-eyed people than Southern Italy or Spain. They basically look Caucasoid. When they refer to Black people (not in their areas, where Blacks are non-existent) but in the main cities, they call them, like the Arabized Berbers "abid" The best proof of who they are is to visit them or failing that YouTube "Amazigh"
@EuroCivilization Caucasoid feautures is an illusion. Even the Africans who were or are deemed Caucasoid differ from Europeans and cluster with Africans in much southerly areas.
Caucasoid wouldn't be appriorate term when dealing with Africans you have certain Africans like I said Kenyan, or even Tutsi who are dominately M2 (E1b1a) and then you got to explain why people from the Adaman islands in southeast Asia look like Negroids when they don't geneticslly cluster with them.
@EuroCivilization tell that too the early anthropologist, like I said you can get the jist of it in Keita '93.
These early anthropologist actually deemed many Egyptian skulls as Negroid, but they did not give it an African Negroid origin which makes little sense, but you can excuse that as the racism and whites not wanting to admit Egypt's African roots.
Of course, many anthropologist don't agree on a notion of race, especially on phenotype characteristics.
Egyptians including Copts do not look Negroid and especially they do not look like Keita
What I look forward to, since I've been told of "Ancient African civilizations" in Negro centric sites, is to receive the time equivalent, and definite unambiguous racial clarity of Ancient Egyptian portraits, showing Negroid features, from these African countries, which we assume together with written documentation to exist in the thousands
@EuroCivilization you don't have to agree with Keita the fact is it is historical anthropologist deemed them as not looking European thus most of them had features that were Negroid.
Why dont you refute me? Since you and many Euros like using outdated notions of race, why can't you debunk me on the Coptics being viewed non-Egyptians by early racialist anthropologist?
The wonderful word of Negrocentrics. Everything was Negroid, but now because of invasion, extermination, European slaves, or whatever they are not Negroid!!
American Negroes should be grateful that West African sold their ancestors to White traders. Without that, they would be stuck in some wretched West African existence or if left alone a Haiti-existence.
You never had anything to do withEgyptians, North Africans, Greeks, Mexicans, Jews. Mexicans, Italians, Spaniards,
@EuroCivilization you run from one video to the next stalking blacks...ha ha ha ,,i know you are tired...ha ha ha...you hate that blacks were the real egyptians,,,and those people there are newcomers...ha ha ha !
But in other postings you say there are millions of blacks in in Egypt. Are today's Egyptians the true descendants of the Ancient Egyptians or aren't they?
@jayelldude Ive noticed he does not show any facts he keeps coming with an opinion. Its a shame that people like him feel so insecure they need to look for videos on other people and leave stupid comments. I wonder if you went on a white power site how many comments you would see from black people.
@EuroCivilization All you do is show you have never seen an egyptian dont make a fool of yourself. Anthropologists and historians generally agree pointed out that Black African nationalities such as the Tibbu and Tuwarek (Tuaregs), are the aboriginal Berber tribes of the central Sahara. They include the Lamta Berbers, and the Haratin of Morocco and Mauritania.
Dont ignore me either were are white north africans?
These tribes you mention are basically irrelevant . They inhabit the desert, and are not numerous. The Haratin are especially despised not least by the Tuaregs. The Tuareg can still present a challenge to the Mali government in the North of Mali, especially because Malians know what the Tuaregs did to them in the past
I have been to Egypt five times and to North Africa numerous times. I have Coptic and Assyrian friends. Everyone in north Africa is aware that Amazigh are "White"
@EuroCivilization Furthermore one must mention that one of Shakespeare’s most famous characters was Othello the Black Moorish nobleman of Venice. One need only study the pictures of Othello and Desdemona rendered by European artists to appreciate what Moor meant to the western European imagination at that time. See”Othello and Desdemona in Venice” by Theodore Chassariau (1819 – 1856).
@EuroCivilization In the 13th century, the Spanish monarch Alfonso X described the Moors as follows:
All the Moorish soldiers were dressed in silk and black wool that had been forcibly acquired their faces were like pitch and the most handsome of them was like a cooking pan.
Again stick to paintings done at the time - in Spain.Always stick to something concrete. If you want to tell me that Ancient Egyptians were Negroid 2,000 years ago show me Ancient Egyptian portraits with Negroid features - with the same unambigious clarity as the Fayum paintings (There must be some in your "Ancient African civilizations")
And don't quote from Europeans. Quote from your "Black" African sources.
@meandwot@Eurocivilization is lying he has never been to africa 5 times..and he has no friends in that part of the world..he is another white supremacist jumping from one black video to the next arguing with black people, His goal is to try to tell us we have no history..he is not from north africa so what is he doing crashing a black video for?,,he is a racist that's why!..those friends he spoke of are just people he met on youtube,,he is a liar!
When you talk about the Fayum you are referring to the Coptic? Coptics have 20% B-M160. What is B-M160 is a Central African marker among sterotypically Negroid Africans lol.
Coptics are most likely Ancient retentions of the Egyptians themselves with Romans, and Greeks, and other foreign invaders.
Their customs are clearly Arabic, and religion is Orthodox which is Western Asian and Greek origin.
So why would you give a population that is clearly of outer external influences as being native?
The Fayum paintings were painted 800 years before the small Arab army invaded Egypt. Their customs couldn't have been Arabic because there were no Arabs then. But Egypt was not a stagnant society like, say, much of Africa
@EuroCivilization these like I said are Coptic people, these Coptics were considered by early anthropologist to not have any connection to the ancient Egyptians because some of their facial features were too Negroid despite their skin color.
You can get the jist of what I am talking about from Keita '93 article. These people are Coptic and these painting were around the time of the Roman occupation of Egypt, and if you saw the painting from Pompeii these people look Roman more than Egyptians.
@davidcici11 Did you happen to read about the meeting in 1995 it was agreed that Ancient Egypt was given rise by an African population. You can find that information on the link I gave you via message.
'74 is 10 years after black Americans were given civil rights in America (still a prejudice era). Egypt during this period were hostile toward Sudanese. The country did not get its independence till '56 and ironically the Aswan Dam did not wipe out Ancient Nubian sites till early 60's
Still overwhelmingly egyptologists think that today's Egyptians are descended from Ancient Egyptians and for obvious reasons the Copts have not mixed with Muslims or "Arabs"
"UNESCO convened the "Symposium on the Peopling of Ancient Egypt and the Deciphering of the Meroitic Script" in Cairo in 1974. At that forum the "Black Egyptian" theory was rejected by 90% of delegates and the symposium concluded that Ancient Egyptians were much the same as modern Egyptians."
@EuroCivilization Page 280 – TOME 1: He speaks about another African woman found in a rich sarcophagus.
He says that their type or race ( African women found in the highest spheres of Carthage) still existed in North Africa when they were doing this study…
Furthermore, the African woman Priestess of Tanit had affinities with the Negroid Neolithic race found in North Africa at Tebessa ( Berber region) ) by Debruge [ See Tome I page 237]
@EuroCivilization There are many affinities between the Nubians and the Negroid Neolithic inhabitants of North Africa, the later can be called ETHIOPIANS [ Tome I, Page 331]
Can you stop doing the eurocentric thing which is never show facts to back up your stupid arguments. Modern egyptians by the way you know that there are still millions of native egyptians (black people) Explain why no invader met a white north african its not a hard question
@EuroCivilization There is no such thing as sub-sahara you have made a big enough fool of yourself as it is stop making a bigger fool of yourself. Show some quotes then from romans and greeks who refered to egyptians as anything other than dark skinned people. Like i said before there are millions of native egyptians still black. The white north africans are decendants of slaves and colonists what dont you understand about that. This is the first thing you find out when you study north africa
@meandwot you are debating @Eurocivilization the racist stalker...he will negroe you and sub sahara you all day long..he thinks that all blacks have one look..but caucasoids are from white to brown skin,,,this fool is trying to tell us who we are,,man don't waste time with him...he will be on another black video next week
@EuroCivilization Stephen GSELL [ Tome 1, Page 303] says that negroid people have been found in Algeria in the city of ORAN. They were troglodytes of the NEOLITHIC Period…This clue comforts FURON PALEOLITHIC foundings…
@EuroCivilization 1890 – “The Kabyles or Kabaily of Algerian and Tunisian territories…besides tillage, work the mines contained in their mountains…They live in huts made of branches of trees and covered with clay which resemble the Magalia of the old Numidians…They are of middle stature, their complexion brown and sometimes nearly black.” Written in The Encyclopedia Britannica: Dictionary of Arts, Sciences and General Literature Henry G. Allen Company p. 261 Volume I 1890.
@EuroCivilization Anyone who reads French can find articles about the first Berbers who were Blacks. French scholars like Bertholon, Atgier, and Adolphe Bloch were all agreed about the fact that the term moore or maure was initially used for the black men who lived in North Africa.
Il show you somthing as you seem a bit slow still saying the same rubbish without a piece of evidence to back up your insane claim.
@EuroCivilization The impact of the white slave trade and its contribution to the modern biology and appearance of the modern North African stems from before the Arabian and Muslim waves into Africa. The Roman ruler Claudian spoke concerning Gildo, the “Moorish” ruler of Africa and treatment of Roman women from the Levant by this North African chief and his countrymen:
4th century – Claudian wrote, “ when tired of each noblest matron Gildo hands her over to the
@EuroCivilization Moors. These Sidonian mothers, married in Carthage city must needs mate with barbarians. He thrusts upon me an Ethiopian as a son-in law, a Berber as a husband. The hideous hybrid affrights its cradle.” Claudian, by Claudius Claudianus, translation by Maurice Platnauer, Published by G.P. Putnam’s sons, 1922 p. 113. (Gildo was brother to other Berber chiefs Firmus and Maseczel. Gildo is related to Aguellid or Galdi which remains the modern Tuarek word for chief. Masek,
@EuroCivilization Amazigh ot Imoshagh was the name for the ancient and modern Tuareg clans in general. The Mezikes tribes were called “Ethiopians” in a Roman text of the time. )
Amazigh (sing) is a Berber word now applied to all Berber tribes who now inhabit North Africa including the small Tuareg clans which still roam about in the desert of south Algeria and Libya and northern Mali and Niger.
The Malians have a deep psychological fear of the Tuaregs who used to kidnap sub-Saharans at will as any Malian will tell you, even Diop the Senegalese of the Ramases helmet fame.
@EuroCivilization Look for some reas you keep saying things with no evidence. Tauregs are black idiot and again this is how stupid you are lmao you cant even talk about the moors in some parts of europe such as spain that is fear. THere is no such thing as sub-saharan its made up and for the record as you seem really slow mali is north west africa its still north africa and is a berber country like senegal, chad and niger. Of cause you wouldnt know that as you are so stupid
@EuroCivilization The Berber language is called Tamazight of which there are many dialects including Tarifit or Riffi (northern Morocco), Kabyle (Algeria) and Tashelhiyt (central Morocco), Tamasheq(Niger). Tamazight has been a written language, on and off, for almost 3000 years. It was first written in the Tifinagh alphabet, still used by the Tuaregs of Libya, Niger, Nigeria, Mali and Senegal. The oldest dated inscription is from about 200 BC.
@EuroCivilization The Garamanti Empire was a Black Berber empire that flourished in Fezzan, Southern Libya. It was a contemporary of the Roman Empire and was a great challenge to the Rome since it never came under the Roman but rather remained independent until the 7th centure C.E when it declined most probably as a result of environmental changes. Scholars reckon that the Garamanti Empire lasted for about
@EuroCivilization The Garamanti Empire was a Black Berber empire that flourished in Fezzan, Southern Libya. It was a contemporary of the Roman Empire and was a great challenge to the Rome since it never came under the Roman but rather remained independent until the 7th centure C.E when it declined most probably as a result of environmental changes. Scholars reckon that the Garamanti Empire lasted for about
@EuroCivilization The Garamanti Empire was a Black Berber empire that flourished in Fezzan, Southern Libya. It was a contemporary of the Roman Empire and was a great challenge to the Rome since it never came under the Roman but rather remained independent until the 7th centure C.E when it declined most probably as a result of environmental changes. Scholars reckon that the Garamanti Empire lasted for about
@EuroCivilization 1,000 years, from about 400 BCE to 600 CE, in today’s central Libya (Fezzan), although Fezzan has been continuously occupied by early culture societies as early as the 8th millennium B.C.E. The Fezzan region touches the Libyan coastal zone in the north, the Libyan Desert in the east, the Tibesti massif of Chad to the south, and the Hoggar massif along with the Grand Erg Oriental of Algeria to the west.
@EuroCivilization 1,000 years, from about 400 BCE to 600 CE, in today’s central Libya (Fezzan), although Fezzan has been continuously occupied by early culture societies as early as the 8th millennium B.C.E. The Fezzan region touches the Libyan coastal zone in the north, the Libyan Desert in the east, the Tibesti massif of Chad to the south, and the Hoggar massif along with the Grand Erg Oriental of Algeria to the west.
@EuroCivilization 1,000 years, from about 400 BCE to 600 CE, in today’s central Libya (Fezzan), although Fezzan has been continuously occupied by early culture societies as early as the 8th millennium B.C.E. The Fezzan region touches the Libyan coastal zone in the north, the Libyan Desert in the east, the Tibesti massif of Chad to the south, and the Hoggar massif along with the Grand Erg Oriental of Algeria to the west.
@EuroCivilization 1,000 years, from about 400 BCE to 600 CE, in today’s central Libya (Fezzan), although Fezzan has been continuously occupied by early culture societies as early as the 8th millennium B.C.E. The Fezzan region touches the Libyan coastal zone in the north, the Libyan Desert in the east, the Tibesti massif of Chad to the south, and the Hoggar massif along with the Grand Erg Oriental of Algeria to the west.
@EuroCivilization 1,000 years, from about 400 BCE to 600 CE, in today’s central Libya (Fezzan), although Fezzan has been continuously occupied by early culture societies as early as the 8th millennium B.C.E. The Fezzan region touches the Libyan coastal zone in the north, the Libyan Desert in the east, the Tibesti massif of Chad to the south, and the Hoggar massif along with the Grand Erg Oriental of Algeria to the west.
@EuroCivilization GSELL further says about the slaves in Carthage that : ” Les Pays Méditerranéens alimentaient largement les marchés d’esclaves” ie “Mediterranean Countries supplied fully the slave markets ” ie White slaves were predominant in Carthage….[Tome IV page 140]
There is no mention of white north africans other than as slaves
by the way Northern Europeans have straight hair not curly hair, I have curly hair. Curly hair can also be an indicator of mixed ancestry.
But in the regard of the Egyptians it was most likely of Cushitic East African origin. Most Horners live in a "hot dry climate" while certain other Africans live in a forest type tropical evironment this explains those morphologies more than exact genetic ancestry.
I have curly hair. I assure you I haven't got Negroid blood in me. I've known a few Scandinavians with curly hair. More to the point everyone in the Fayum portraits seems to have curly hair though they are manifestly not Negroid
@EuroCivilization your not getting it. Their is E carriers in Europe, I never questioned that but it is obviously of recent origin, possibly dating back to the Neolithic period around 10,000 years ago.
Hence is why M78 didn't leave Sudan till 10.8 kya.
Whether Europeans or Western Asians carry E lineages it is a subset of E lineages and like I said only two are found outside of Africa.
And Phenotype doesn't correlate with ancestry, you do know that right? Any anthropologist will tell you that
I have curly hair and I am not a Negro. And I've known quite a few Europeans with curly hair and they are not Negroes . And all the Fayum portraits show men and women with curly hair and they are plainly not Negroes
@EuroCivilization That means you are mixed though the moors were all over europe and as was stated in the sciilian film true romance the moors were niggers as they stated. Why do you try to pass a mixed people off as native? Thats like me going to Tazmania, taking pictures of white people and trying to pass them off as native ignoring the old photo's of natives ignoring the descriptions and ignoring the ancient remains. Like i said you cannot show accounts of white north africans.
@EuroCivilization Were are the ancient white berber artworks show some remains.
You can find many proofs or clues concerning the existence of the ORIGINAL black Berbers [often called western Ethiopians by classical historians like Romans and Greeks; See : GSELL, TOME 1, Page 295 to 304] during Antiquity and later on.
@EuroCivilization So are you suggesting that Nilo-Saharan speaking Kenyans and Tanzanians who also have curly to straight hair, are related to Scandavians? They also have narrow faces and features, I got this from out of one of my college anthropology textbook this is one example (textbook) of why genetic ancestry doesn't correlate with phenotype (physical features).
Hair morphology is going to tell you the least, curly or straight is not a European or non-African creation.
I find it extraordinary that the Moors or Berbers who took so many millions of Africans as slaves, as people from Niger,Mali, Chad can attest and despise them to boot are now a prime target of wannabeism for American Negroes.
It is as if they are suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.
We know of the emotional need of Negrocentrism. The procedure is to look for history books in English, or translated into English and then to look for words such as "dark", "black" or "woolly hair" Then take these extracts, record them and YouTube them about. Then make any amazing concusion. Eg like the Olmecs were Negroes some of whom were shipped from the US to Seville as slaves.
Even the people of Georgia , the Colchis were supposed to have "woolly hair"!!
@EuroCivilization The term Moor has been put to diverse use, but its roots are still traceable. The word Moor originates from the Roman word Marues, which is a derivate of the Greek adjective Mauros (i.e. black or dark). In the year 46BC the Roman army entered NorthWest Africa where they encountered black Africans whom they called “Maures”. During the European Renaissance explorers, writers and scholars began to apply the term Moor to Africans in general.
@EuroCivilization What a surprise more stupid comments from a eurocentric with out a piece of evidence lmao first of all the Colchis were an egyptian colony and as herotodus stated they were black and as the pictures from the early 1900s show. Do you know what that means the white people who you think are Colchis are not. Just like you are not native to Australia, Tazmania infact anywere outside of central asia you are not native to Georgia. You so stupid the olmecs came from west africa nothing
Is this yet another case of "an ancient black civilization " this time in the Caucasus, replaced by fraudulent Georgians? Shall we add the Colchis to the Egyptians, Moors, Greeks, Cambodians, Native Americans, Hebrews, Sicilians, Etruscans, Phoenicians,Carthaginians, Olmecs, Sumerians, 12 tribes of Israel, Arabs who were supposed to be "black"?
@EuroCivilization to do with slaves you are the slave race idiot we gave you the name slave. The original Riffian moors were black and dealt heavily in the european slavetrade if you new anything you would know that and you would also know that the pictures from the early 1900s show the riffs as black still. The Kabyles again the white members of that tribe have slave origins and the leaders are all black from algeria to morocco
So the Riffs were black in the 1900s and after 1900 when they had already been ruled by France they acquired so many European slaves that they have more blondes than Italians! I think you are stark, raving mad.
"the white members of that tribe have slave origins and the leaders are all black from algeria to morocco" If you look at photos of Cabinet Ministers of both Algeria or Morocco you won't see one single Negro. Not one even token black
@EuroCivilization Although one does find many Kabyles who appear like northern and eastern Europeans in phyenotype, this is probably attributable to admixture with European women slaves. It is widely acknowledged that the male gene of the kabyles are certainly tropical African in origin whereas their mtDNA genes (the female gene) harken back to some European roots.
Genetics show the Kabyles are related to the Taureg and Oromo people lmao i believe thats what we call ownage
@EuroCivilization Silius Italicus a Roman writer around the beginning of the Christian era describes the Maures as Nigra a Latin work for dark complexion. Other Roman documents referenced other Berbers groups such as the “black Gaetuli and black-skinned Asphodelodes.”
Your listing tribes without knowing anything about them you have not seen old pictures of them you have not seen descriptions all you see is the slave members of the tribes and think they are native. Show 1 case of someone meeting
@EuroCivilization a white north african. Anthropologists and historians generally agree pointed out that Black African nationalities such as the Tibbu and Tuwarek (Tuaregs), are the aboriginal Berber tribes of the central Sahara. They include the Lamta Berbers, and the Haratin of Morocco and Mauritania.
A white man cannot be a moor because it means black.
@EuroCivilization So I am guessing when it is the other way around you Euro's try to find anything that represents "white purity" failing to realize Africans associated purity with the color "black" hmm...I wonder why Europeans associate purity with white, and Africans associate black with purity?
Wait I thought Woolly hair was only amongst Negroid people? So I am guessing that is a white invention.
If anyone described any pop with wolly hair and black skin I wonder what comes to mind??
Could be the translation into "woolly". Often the original meant "curly". Don't you believe those American Negroes who give you translations of original Classic Greek and Latin words. Rest assured they don't know either of the two languages.
But if you look at the hair of both Ancient Greeks and Egyptians in the Fayum portraits
you would know what ancient Greek historians meant.
@EuroCivilization Ha ha you whites hate black skin but you get skin cancer trying to get dark, you make fun of us for having thick lips but you pay for lip injections and now even butt implants. Like I said get mad @ Wallis Budge, Albert Churhward, Godfrey Higgins ect... All stated the Egyptians were black you no lip neanderthal. If you hate black people so much, why don't you ignore our videos?
"UNESCO convened the "Symposium on the Peopling of Ancient Egypt and the Deciphering of the Meroitic Script" in Cairo in 1974. At that forum the "Black Egyptian" theory was rejected by 90%, REPEAT 90% of delegates and the symposium concluded that Ancient Egyptians were much the same as modern Egyptians"
@EuroCivilization Wow a bunch of whites and Arabs rejecting overt evidence. The same Euro fags that told me Ethiopians were white and Egypt was not in Africa. I am suppose to believe them? They the same exact hair styles as other Africans enough said,
I am sure you are an expert at translating Classic Greek! Ghetto schools I learn were great centres of learning before bussing, quotas and affirmative action ruined them!!
@EuroCivilization I could care less about Greeks and Romans who were both fucking faggots like yourself. Like I told your faggot ass before the culture of ancient Egypt was African as stated by your own white scholar such as Higgins, Albert Churchwood and Gerald Massey I could name more like Robert Bauval get his book Black Genesis, so go argue and try debunk them. Im sure your attempt will be pathetic. If you hate blacks so much stay off our videos.
@EuroCivilization then why didn't the Greeks describe their hair as being wholly then? And so-called Negro translation? LOL it was translated into English by Englishmen. And to the account of a certain Greeks they usually always compared Egyptians with Ethiopians to my understand the word Ethiopia in ancient times meant African. And also to my understanding hair morphology is not an indication of white ancestry, or so-called Eurasian ancestry.
@EuroCivilization Guy Ducatez et Jacky Ducatez; Al Gahiz, Kitab Fahr as Sudan Ala l-bidan.
Lmao there we see some moorish books the pride of the blacks over the white yh sounds like a book a people who couldnt even read or write at this time would write.
The Berbers (Kabyles, Riffians, Chleuhs, Chawis, Imazifgen) were not and aren't Negroes.
The Berbers know who they are, and everyone knows what they did. Ask Malians, people from Niger etc. Don't read extracts from a translation of a translation looking for words such as "dark", "woolly hair" Just go and talk to these people. Not only are they not black, they call Blacks "abd" or "abid" ie slave.
The Fayum portraits show people with curly hair and they are White
@EuroCivilization the Auelamidden have since moved southward and live in Niger. Also just for you maybe you should check out several books by a famous muslim since you are interested in the moors. Al-Jahiz (776-869): Al-Fakhar al-Sudan min al-Abyadh (the prides of blacks over the whites) Book of the Glory of the Black race translated by : Vincent J. Cornell- The boast of the blacks over the whites translated by T. Khalidi in Islamic Quarterly. -
"the Auelamidden have since moved southward" This is the Negrocentrics default line. Highly civilized people like the Egyptians, Moors are supposed to have moved south, forgetting everything apart from learning how to build mud huts.
@EuroCivilization Yusuf Tachfin who had come from a long line of miltary rulers. According to “Roudh el-Kartas” (History of the Rulers of Morocco) by Abd Allah, and A.Beaumier’s French translation of the 14th century work, Yusuf was of “brown color”, of “middle height” with , “ thin, little beard, soft voice” and “woolly hair”. The Almoravid dynasty was supposedly composed mainly of Sanhaja clans of Massufa, Joddala (Gaetuli) and Lamtuna (or Auelimidden Tuareg)-
@EuroCivilization Tamanrasset is home to the natives idiot and there are 15,000 cave paintings there thate date back 6000bce all of them are of black people and were made a world heritage of all the idiots i have defeated you do seem to be the dumbest. 14th – The Almoravid or Al Murabitun dynasty coming from the Atlas was one of the last dynasties coming from Africa to rule in the Iberian peninsula. One of the 11th century rulers of Andalusia and North Africa was
@EuroCivilization See also The Berbers in Arab Literature by H.T. Norris 1982.p. 20. Harvey , L.P. “Nugaymath Turquia, Primera Cronica General, Chapter 956” Journal of Semitic Studies 13, no. 2:232. Targiyyat or Targiya is a variant form or pronunciation in North Africa for the name Tuareg. 13th or 14th century Abu Shama, a Syrian, described the Masmuda Berbers as “blacks” in his, Kitab al-Ravdatayn. Found in Golden Age of the Moor, 1991 edition p. 57, edited by Dr. Ivan Van Sertima.
@EuroCivilization 13th century – Primary Cronica General of Alphonso X of Spain describes the 300 Almoravid “Amazon” women whose leader is described as black and Moorish. They were “led by their leader Nugaymath al-Tarqiyya (the “star of the Tuareg archers” in Arabic) who led the Almoravid siege of Valencia”; cited in Nubian Queens in the Nile Valley by Carolyn Fluehr-Lobban, Ninth International Conference of Nubian Studies, Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, USA.
"who led the Almoravid siege of Valencia”; cited in Nubian Queens in the Nile Valley by Carolyn Fluehr-Lobban," What crap is this? Valencia, Almoravids and Nubian Queens??? And these are supposed to be devout Muslims?
@EuroCivilization Found in Madan’s translation of Juvenal, vol. I by J. Vincent published at Oxford. North africans are black idiot what yous ee in libya is the decendants of slaves and european colonists working with there parent nations to steal power from the blacks how stupid are you look seriously now if you continue to say stupid things i will block you bring some facts or go away. I am getting fed up with idiots who can never bring any evidence so they try to pass off their stupid opinion
The Gaitules were the most populous of the Libyan tribes of Strabo’s time (1st century AD). Josephus claimed they were descended from Havilah or the Avalioi who he says children of Kush child of Ham.
1st -2nd century – Juvenal, the Roman writer in his Satire V. 53 referred to “a Gaetulian, as a black a Moor “so black you’d rather not see him at midnight”..
@EuroCivilization Instead of continueing with the book i will show you some things as you seem like the typical eurocentric it was obvious you were by your nam anyway eurocivilization which there has never been anyway. 1901 – The Oases if Nafzawa and Wed Suef and Wed Regh and other Berbers of the Sus as “of very dark complexion” in Guiseppi Sergi The Mediterranean Race: The Study of the origin of European peoples The Walter Scott Publishing Company
There is a drawing of supposed Riffian pirates painted in1850. This is supposed to show that the North Africans were Berbers(true) and that they were black (a joke) and that they became white because they captured white women(a howler). Just Google (images) "Riffian people" No blacks. Morocco and Algeria were conquered by the French in 1830 and stopped piracy, period.A NegroCentric joke! In fact the Riffian people, the Kabilye & other Berbers had more blue eyed people than Italy
The Moors, at least the ones who were in Moorish Spain, were overwhelmingly Berbers or Amazigh as they prefer to be called with some Arabs. If one goes to North Africa one sees basically Arab-speaking Amazigh people, Amazigh-speaking Amazigh and a few Arab-speaking Arabs. The Amazigh look "White" or Mediterranean. Just YouTube "Amazigh"
to see what they look like. Roman paintings and statues of Berbers show that they were pretty much indistinguishable from Romans.
@EuroCivilization The taureg are in parts of libya, algeria and north west africa mali and senegal strange that north west africa is still black and was never colonised by the turks. These people played a huge part in the slavetrade of european women yes most slaves in north africa and north east africa were white women hence why you have mongrels now in these countries. Show 1 case of an invader meeting a white north african
The Tuaregs form perhaps 1 out of 20 of Berber-speakers. They moved south on the continent in the 11th century AD, taking slaves from Negro groups. These éklan once form a distinct social class in Tuareg society and are sometimes mistaken for Tuaregs. they are a class held in an inherited serf-like condition.
The Tuaregs were the main transporters of Black slaves across the Sahara as people from Niger, Mali etc and even the weird Negrocentrist Diop from Dakar can attest.
@EuroCivilization Idiot the Tauregs are not south they are in north africa and north west africa they have never moved south they have only been to europe were the delt heavily in the slavetrade of white women. You make a fool of yourself were are the white north africans show cases of someone meeting white north africans.
Even American Negroes know that the Tuaregs live in the Sahara. They've never been to Europe. You don't even see them in North African cities. Why should they? They had easier pickings around them in Mali and Niger etc
@EuroCivilization The Tauregs live in north africa the sahara and north west africa they do not respect the nato borders and the made up western countries all of the native berbers live like that and are found in multiply countries how do you not know that. Why are you also acting like the tauregs are the only native north africans left if you go morocco its 2/3rds dark still libya 50% black algeria has millions of natives south mauritania and tunisia all black were have you been in north africa
@EuroCivilization The Black Presence in North Africa ( Algeria, Tunisia, Libya ) during the Paleolithic and NEOLITHIC periods is also demonstrated: [Bertholon TOME 1 ; pp 237 to 241]
Please take special note of Pr Lucien Bertholon acknowledging that Black people in Carthage were in the highest spheres, specially our African Queens/women :
- Pages 270-271 TOME 1 ;( The African woman Priestess of TANIT and found in a rich design sarcophagus).
@EuroCivilization They are not south though if they are in Libya, Algeria and morocco how is that south? How is it south when the lowest point the Tauregs reach is north west africa? That is still north africa. Why do you keep going on about the tauregs anyway? They are 1 of many native tribes of north africa. You seem to also act like you have never seen egyptian artwork and only talk about the greek and roman periods they ruled for 972 years they are not egyptians.
@EuroCivilization The Chanson of Roland states that the Moorish army was 50,000 strong and led by Marganice, Emperor of Ethiopia and Carthage. Their most valiant figure is described as Abisme (probably a derivative of, Abyssinian), who (verse 126) is described as black as melted pitch. In this epic, the Moors are called Sarrazins, in English, Saracens.
Thats clear how the moors looked to europeans right so again what happened to the white north africans then?
@EuroCivilization The four Moorish kings killed in battle by Pedro VIII, king of Aragon, on November 18, 1096, who were depicted in the official coat of arms of Aragon, are shown as Black Africans kings. See Biblioteca de escritores aragoneses. Blancas. Comentarios de las cosas de Aragon. Seccion histor. 3, p. 110. 1878.
Now these wee moorish kings killed so if the blacks were the rulers then what were the whites?
Just for you some people who state egypt was black and some who state it was
@EuroCivilization Look up moors on european coats of arms and you will see them all. I also asked you to start showing people meeting white egyptians or moors its not a hard question you make a fool of yourself. You talk about Hati yet fail to mention how the french bankrupt that country you have listed countries that you have destroyed and continue to attack. You who dumps toxic waste in peoples waters, starves people through sanctions, instigates conflicts, funds genocides, takes part in
@EuroCivilization genocide and experiments on people then you sit there and talk about how they live. Why do you never talk about how they lived before you? Why dont you talk about how you lived were you would shit and sleep in the same corner of the cave, were your people would die of lice, lets not forget what the plague did to you, you believed washing was a sin these african moors built over 200 public baths in spain alone to help you. Look at yourself before you judge others.
@EuroCivilization There are a people now forgotten discovered while others were yet barbarians the elements of the arts and sciences. A race of men now rejected for their black skin and wooly hair founded the study of the laws of nature, those civil and religious systems which still govern the Universe.” C F Volney:18th century French academician of the highest esteem in European academic circles. Book: ” Ruins Of Empire,” 1789.
You have many different people in egypt yes the black natives
@EuroCivilization are decendants of the ancient egyptians the mixedbreeds are the result of slavery and colonisation to me and to most people they are not egyptian but will always be greeks, romans, turks and so on. The first civilised inhabitants of the Nile ad Tigris-Euphrates Valleys were a dark-skinned people with short hair and prominent lips…” French historian, Professor Charles Seignobos:” History of Ancient Civilisation.”
@EuroCivilization white. All those who say that the Ancient Egyptians were Black folks: The Ancient Egyptians The Ancient Greeks Herodotus Aristotle Lucian Apollodorus Aeschylus The Ancient Romans Strabo Diodorus of Sicily Diogenes Laertius Ammanius Marcellinus France Count Constatine de Volney Marius Fontanes – “Les Egyptes” England EW Budge (finally, reluctantly) – “Keeper of the Egyptian and Assyrian Antiquities, British Museum ”
@EuroCivilization The Anzac troops upon arriving in Egypt during WWI “My God, we didn’t know the Egyptians were niggers!” (sic!) Africa Professor C.A. Diop Professor Theophile Obenga The Christian Bible The Kebra Nagast (Ethiopian bible) The Tanakh (Torah) The Koran All those who say that the Ancient Egyptians were not Black folks: White Egyptologists What else needs to be said than that.
Decide what you want to say? Are today's Egyptians descended from the Ancient Egyptians or not? I say they are, and they are overwhelmingly not Negroid. So what is your opinion (not that of "Anzac troops")?
So did 90% of the egyptologists at the UNESCO 1974 symposium
@EuroCivilization Yet vassalage he’s shown, and great folly, So is he dear to th’ felon king Marsile; Dragon he bears, to which his tribe rally. That Archbishop could never love him, he; Seeing him there, to strike he’s very keen, Within himself he says all quietly: “This Sarrazin great heretick meseems, Rather I’ld die, than not slay him clean, Neer did I love coward nor cowardice.” CXLIII But what avail? Though fled be Marsilies, He’s left behind his uncle, the alcaliph
@EuroCivilization Who holds Alferne, Kartagene, Garmalie, And Ethiope, a cursed land indeed; The blackamoors from there are in his keep, Broad in the nose they are and flat in the ear, Fifty thousand and more in company. These canter forth with arrogance and heat, Then they cry out the pagans’ rallying-cheer; And Rollant says: “Martyrdom we’ll receive; Not long to live, I know it well, have we; Felon he’s named that sells his body cheap!
@EuroCivilization Strike on, my lords, with burnished swords and keen; Contest each inch your life and death between, That neer by us Douce France in shame be steeped. When Charles my lord shall come into this field, Such discipline of Sarrazins he’ll see, For one of ours he’ll find them dead fifteen; He will not fail, but bless us all in peace.” CXLIV When Rollant sees those misbegotten men, Who are more black than ink is on the pen
For some reason you keep coming with your stupid opinion and cannot show any facts i am asking you simply were in history are white north africans other than as slaves no one met a white north african
@EuroCivilization and look down upon the harbour for which the galley is steering. Now the guns of the pirate vessel begin to roar. Salute after salute is fired, in joy of return and to announce that the cruise has been a success, and soon a delighted crowd throngs the shore to welcome their friends, and to see what is being brought in.
For every stupid comment you make i will post more from the book notice how you were called pale faced captives. Now for the tauregs quickly
@EuroCivilization But the pale-faced captives look forward with no such joyous hope. Every beat of the oars carries them so much the nearer to the land where they must live in slavery. The shore now rises fast, and they see a rocky promontory which shines white in the sun. They draw nearer, and see that the patch of colour is a town built on a steep hillside. Row upon row, tier upon tier, the white shining houses of Algiers climb the encircling sweep of hills
@EuroCivilization with a scimitar at his girdle and a turban on his head. His crew and his soldiery are packed mostly at the prow, and all stare eagerly towards the land to catch the first glimpse of Algiers. They have had a long cruise, they have taken much spoil, and they long for the welcome they will receive, and the pleasures waiting for them in the city. There we see a clear distinction between a moor and a turk yet you quote turks lmao so stupid anyway
@EuroCivilization and the boatswain lashes him furiously or gives him a savage prod with the sharp spike which is set in the end of the whip handle. No slave may resist this cruelty, even if he dared, for he is fast chained to the rowing bench and is utterly helpless.
On the poop is the Reis, the captain, perhaps a great black Moor, or a brown-faced Turk, or a swarthy renegade, but dressed and armed in Turkish fashion,
@EuroCivilization with at best no more than a few rags to cover them, and urged to their work by the boatswains. The latter walk along a narrow gangway running up the waist of the galley, and from it they can reach easily to the oar benches on either side. Each boatswain is armed with a heavy whip, and uses it without mercy. Look at the great weals and the fresh, blood-stained marks on the naked backs of the oarsmen! Let one but falter an instant at his heavy task,
@EuroCivilization Then look at what you quote not a moor but a turk again i will show slave records. Barbary Rovers by John Finnemore
And what was the life of these poor captives carried into slavery among the Barbary rovers? Let us suppose ourselves on board an Algerine galley returning home after a successful cruise. She is going merrily over the sea under oar and sail. The oars are pulled by Christian slaves, meagre, half-starved, sun-tanned wretches,
@EuroCivilization Do you see your ignorance would you tell me to go to Tazmania to see how a native looks because there are none if you do not know the history of these countries then do not comment on them. For the record morocco is still 2/3rds dark even after the genocide have you been to algeria have you been to Tamanrasset this black area in south algeria? Moor was used before islam it has nothing to do with a religion its to do with a people it means black it has a meaning.
Go to Morocco and Algeria to see what the Moors look like. One can also be brave and tell them that they were black! To go and learn about Moorish Spain is precisely Spain and North Africa not German coat of arms or whatever. In the authorative Diccionario de la lengua española from Real Academia there are 10 definitions of "moro " including the main one "Muslim inhabitants of North Africa" and none mentions "black" or "dark" From Morocco to Egypt a Black is referred to as "abid" slave
The North Africans are mostly Berbers who speak either Berber languages or Arabic. They have a small minority of Blacks ie Negroes who were mostly descendants of slaves. The North Africans or Moors call Blacks even now in 2012 "abid" or "slave" and it is not meant to be insulting.
The Berbers or Moors prefer to call themselves "Amazigh" If you want to see what the Moors look like just YouTube "Amazigh"
I don't know where this man got the tribal bare-breasted women in Muslim Libya!!!!!
@EuroCivilization Get your facts right the native north african berbers are black first of all the whites are decendants of slaves and colonists. The term moor means black for the record now the white people of north africa only speak 2 berber languages because they were the ones who enslaved them they speak taragi which is a taureg language a black tribe who have a white slave branch and they speak tamazaigh these speakers were the largest enslaver of white people ever they include the lembuna
@EuroCivilization Abhas nothing to do with black people it means servant but these turks do not even speak actually arabic so do not know the meanings if you bothered to check arab texts you would know most slaves were white. One of these Arabic speakers, the Syrian , Al Dhahabi wrote in the 14th century “Red, in the speech of the people from the Hijaz, means fair-complexioned and this color is rare amongst the Arabs. This is the meaning of the saying, …
@ayur1985 You are either a decendant of a slave or a colonists you are not native you are not black you are not african. Show 1 case in history of someone meeting white north africans or whatever you think you are.
@ayur1985 1st century Silius Italicus also describes the Moors with the term ‘Nigra’ meaning black. In the 3rd century Roman dramatist Platus or Plautus maintained the name Maure was a synonym for “Niger” which was a common term for the word black. 6th century Isidore Archbishop of Seville claimed the word Maure meant black according to Brunson and Runoko Rashidi in “The Moors in Antiquity” in Golden Age of the Moor, 1991.
How do you fit the description? You are the stupid one.
@EuroCivilization a red man as if he is one of the slaves. The speaker meant that his color is like that of the slaves who were captured from the Christians of Syria, Rome and Persia.” See, Seyar al Nubala’a, Al Dhahabi of Damascus Syria, also cited on p. 55, The Unknown Arabs, 2002. I advice you to check out the man who stopped the east african slavetrade the omani arabs were and are black. If you wish to learn things on the moors ask and i will tell you as you seem real confused.
@MrPa1310 Idiot lmao everything is this video is fact the problem is you being a decendant of a slave or a colonist do not know your own history. I tell you what why dont you show cases of people meeting white north africans. The page is yours i wait for your findings.
The ONLY way to the Father is thur the Son. If you believed and had the Spirit of God in you it would be plain. You don't so naturally you don't believe, it's not my job to woo you but I'll pray that you get out of your worldly knowledge and get into God's wisdom. To fear God is the beginning of wisdom. Knowledge doesn't equal salvation that comes by way of Jesus Christ.
Also, the point of this video and all these other videos is tell the truth: That these people are/ were Black, not necessarily negroe or negroid, but Black. Yes, there is a difference. Look at the Negrito of the Phillipines or the Tamils of India. These people are Black, not African or Negroid. We have to dispel a common myth: That everything Black is either negroid or of African origin. More evidence is being found everyday that "Black" people inhabited this entire planet. IT'S THE MELANIN!!!
itismydump 2 weeks ago
@itismydump
You tell the Tamils that they have some connection with sub-Saharans!
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@itismydump
Well in that case the obvious question is "What is it, in this melanin which has relegated them from "ancient African civilizations" to Negritos, Haitians, near-famine in Nubia, favelas in South America, animal-like existence in New Guinea etc?"
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
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@EuroCivilization hey cracka check this out
Phoenician7 TKO North Africans II
eazydee415 1 week ago
@Euro And yes, I've been to Africa, where even African Americans are called "white" now. So, you asked for something concrete and paintings. So why would any Egyptian artifact contain Pharoahs who were painted "jet" Black? Again just using my common sense. The Europeans have a great history. We who seek the truth of African history in no way have challenged European history, just the European lack of perspective. This is our history, so it shouldn't concern you, unless you feel threatened by it
itismydump 2 weeks ago
@itismydump
Well if you've been to Egypt and been to the Cairo Museum, tell me of any one item there which made you think that the Egyptians were Negroid.
NB Why should a European feel threatened by Africans, except by immigration, which would destroy Europe?
But why should American Blacks and West Africans want to claim any connection with Egypt? Especially when the latter call them not "white" but abid.
Show me something as unambiguous as the Fayum paintings
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@Euro Excuse me for using my common sense, but almost every single artifact from Ancient Egypt contains figurines with Negroid features. Some, if not most, are completely Black. Last I checked, even through modern eyes, the peoples of Africa contain almost every variation of human traits known. Blue eyes? Curly hair? So Negroes can't have these features? Well, sorry to disappoint, but they do. Greco-Roman philosophy dominates your thoughts, but I know what my own eyes are telling me.
itismydump 2 weeks ago
@itismydump
No they DON'T show Negroid features unless from the 25th Dynasty And if they are jet black, or gold or green then you know that they are not realistic, like the Fayum paintings.
You need not "check". If you go to Asia you see blond Russians touching China. You have Indians, Chinese, Iranians, Afghans, Tamils, all Asians. No Chinese, Indian or Russian would say "Last I checked people of Asia had almost every variation..."
They know some are Mongoloid, some Caucasoid
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@itismydump
So I don't see why American Negroes and West Africans want to believe, that "Africa", which is a 100% lazy, throwaway European concept anyway, somehow has some sort of "black, unifying centre". It hasn't. Most North Africans are Caucasoid (not European) and it hasn't happened because of "invasions" or "European slaves".If many Amazigh, Chleuhs, Riffians have blue eyes and fair hair and even more of them have a Mediterranean complexion and features it is because they're Caucasoid.
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
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@EuroCivilization?Not all Lighter Skin people r mix, here is no mix of purely Africans: Igbo tribe,Guinea Conakry Fulani or Mali Tuareg,Bororo,Soninke,Nama People,Batswana Setswana,Tutsi,Tigray,Somali,Amharic Ethiopians r not de darker skin Mursi tribe in the southern region which have been widely exposed by Western Media,Lesotho,Swazi,Zulu,Xhosa,Niger Bororo,Tanzanians,Congolese Lingala or EAC Countries Swahili.Dark skin r Gambia,Ghana,Senegal,Southern Sudan,Côte d' Ivoire & Guinea Bissau.
53Africa 1 week ago
Herodotus made clear ethnic distinctions between Aigyptios (Egyptians) and Aithiops (Ethiopians) … the term Aithiops became the standard Greek designation for the black peoples the “scorched faces” The Nubians were Aithiops, (Ethiopians), as were the black African peoples but not Egyptians. The use of these terms Aigyptios and Aithiops indicated an essential difference in the Greek perception.
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
The Guanches, the Berbers of the Canaries, were we are told, very tall, fair-haired and blue-eyed and certainly the people of the less inhabited outer islands look fairer on close inspection than the average Spaniard confirmed by paintings done at the time of the Spanish settlement there.
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
"Black studies" basically consists of looking up European history books, or sometimes Arab works, translated into English, looking for words like "dark" and then building up "ancient African civilizations" around them One idiot even thinks that the Bronte phrase "tall, dark and handsome" applied to Negroes!
Negrocentrics should go to North Africa and tell the Berbers that they were black but now because of European slaves they are white! You will be called not merely "abid" but "sursaar"
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
North Africans weren't and aren't Negroid. The Phoenicians and their offshoots the Carthaginians weren't Negroid. One has only to go to Algeria, Tunisia etc to confirm this. Tebessa people certainly are not Negroid. They are beautiful, white non-European, like their current beauty representative the gorgeous Moorish beauty from Tebessa Samah Gahfaz.
The Tuaregs, the most southerly Berbers live in uninhabited areas of the Sahara desert of Mali, Niger, Libya and Algeria.
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
The Tuaregs are a small Berber tribe. Unlike most Berbers who live in the north coast of North Africa or the mountainous regions beyond the coast, they live in the southern areas of Algeria &Libya and in the Black countries of Mali and Niger. The Tuaregs are notorious for having transferred millions of Africans to other Berbers & Arabs in the coastal areas (consult people from Niger & Mali.) The Tuaregs and their eklan (black slaves whom they sometimes breed with) rarely go beyond the Sahara
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
The Moors who created the Moorish culture in Spain were overwhelmingly Berbers with some Arabs. The Berbers (Chleuhs. Riffians, Kaybyles etc) have a higher percentage of green/blue-eyed people than Southern Italy or Spain. They basically look Caucasoid. When they refer to Black people (not in their areas, where Blacks are non-existent) but in the main cities, they call them, like the Arabized Berbers "abid" The best proof of who they are is to visit them or failing that YouTube "Amazigh"
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Caucasoid feautures is an illusion. Even the Africans who were or are deemed Caucasoid differ from Europeans and cluster with Africans in much southerly areas.
Caucasoid wouldn't be appriorate term when dealing with Africans you have certain Africans like I said Kenyan, or even Tutsi who are dominately M2 (E1b1a) and then you got to explain why people from the Adaman islands in southeast Asia look like Negroids when they don't geneticslly cluster with them.
davidcici11 3 weeks ago
@davidcici11
They certainly don't look Negroid.
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization tell that too the early anthropologist, like I said you can get the jist of it in Keita '93.
These early anthropologist actually deemed many Egyptian skulls as Negroid, but they did not give it an African Negroid origin which makes little sense, but you can excuse that as the racism and whites not wanting to admit Egypt's African roots.
Of course, many anthropologist don't agree on a notion of race, especially on phenotype characteristics.
davidcici11 2 weeks ago
@davidcici11
Egyptians including Copts do not look Negroid and especially they do not look like Keita
What I look forward to, since I've been told of "Ancient African civilizations" in Negro centric sites, is to receive the time equivalent, and definite unambiguous racial clarity of Ancient Egyptian portraits, showing Negroid features, from these African countries, which we assume together with written documentation to exist in the thousands
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization you don't have to agree with Keita the fact is it is historical anthropologist deemed them as not looking European thus most of them had features that were Negroid.
Why dont you refute me? Since you and many Euros like using outdated notions of race, why can't you debunk me on the Coptics being viewed non-Egyptians by early racialist anthropologist?
davidcici11 2 weeks ago
@davidcici11
The wonderful word of Negrocentrics. Everything was Negroid, but now because of invasion, extermination, European slaves, or whatever they are not Negroid!!
American Negroes should be grateful that West African sold their ancestors to White traders. Without that, they would be stuck in some wretched West African existence or if left alone a Haiti-existence.
You never had anything to do withEgyptians, North Africans, Greeks, Mexicans, Jews. Mexicans, Italians, Spaniards,
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization you run from one video to the next stalking blacks...ha ha ha ,,i know you are tired...ha ha ha...you hate that blacks were the real egyptians,,,and those people there are newcomers...ha ha ha !
jayelldude 2 weeks ago
@jayelldude
But in other postings you say there are millions of blacks in in Egypt. Are today's Egyptians the true descendants of the Ancient Egyptians or aren't they?
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@jayelldude Ive noticed he does not show any facts he keeps coming with an opinion. Its a shame that people like him feel so insecure they need to look for videos on other people and leave stupid comments. I wonder if you went on a white power site how many comments you would see from black people.
meandwot 1 week ago
@EuroCivilization All you do is show you have never seen an egyptian dont make a fool of yourself. Anthropologists and historians generally agree pointed out that Black African nationalities such as the Tibbu and Tuwarek (Tuaregs), are the aboriginal Berber tribes of the central Sahara. They include the Lamta Berbers, and the Haratin of Morocco and Mauritania.
Dont ignore me either were are white north africans?
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@meandwot
These tribes you mention are basically irrelevant . They inhabit the desert, and are not numerous. The Haratin are especially despised not least by the Tuaregs. The Tuareg can still present a challenge to the Mali government in the North of Mali, especially because Malians know what the Tuaregs did to them in the past
I have been to Egypt five times and to North Africa numerous times. I have Coptic and Assyrian friends. Everyone in north Africa is aware that Amazigh are "White"
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Furthermore one must mention that one of Shakespeare’s most famous characters was Othello the Black Moorish nobleman of Venice. One need only study the pictures of Othello and Desdemona rendered by European artists to appreciate what Moor meant to the western European imagination at that time. See”Othello and Desdemona in Venice” by Theodore Chassariau (1819 – 1856).
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@meandwot
As I said if you want to talk about the Moorish culture in Spain, stick to Spain and the Moors who were there -from North Africa
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization In the 13th century, the Spanish monarch Alfonso X described the Moors as follows:
All the Moorish soldiers were dressed in silk and black wool that had been forcibly acquired their faces were like pitch and the most handsome of them was like a cooking pan.
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@meandwot
Again stick to paintings done at the time - in Spain.Always stick to something concrete. If you want to tell me that Ancient Egyptians were Negroid 2,000 years ago show me Ancient Egyptian portraits with Negroid features - with the same unambigious clarity as the Fayum paintings (There must be some in your "Ancient African civilizations")
And don't quote from Europeans. Quote from your "Black" African sources.
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@meandwot @Eurocivilization is lying he has never been to africa 5 times..and he has no friends in that part of the world..he is another white supremacist jumping from one black video to the next arguing with black people, His goal is to try to tell us we have no history..he is not from north africa so what is he doing crashing a black video for?,,he is a racist that's why!..those friends he spoke of are just people he met on youtube,,he is a liar!
jayelldude 2 weeks ago
When you talk about the Fayum you are referring to the Coptic? Coptics have 20% B-M160. What is B-M160 is a Central African marker among sterotypically Negroid Africans lol.
Coptics are most likely Ancient retentions of the Egyptians themselves with Romans, and Greeks, and other foreign invaders.
Their customs are clearly Arabic, and religion is Orthodox which is Western Asian and Greek origin.
So why would you give a population that is clearly of outer external influences as being native?
davidcici11 3 weeks ago
@davidcici11
The Fayum paintings were painted 800 years before the small Arab army invaded Egypt. Their customs couldn't have been Arabic because there were no Arabs then. But Egypt was not a stagnant society like, say, much of Africa
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization these like I said are Coptic people, these Coptics were considered by early anthropologist to not have any connection to the ancient Egyptians because some of their facial features were too Negroid despite their skin color.
You can get the jist of what I am talking about from Keita '93 article. These people are Coptic and these painting were around the time of the Roman occupation of Egypt, and if you saw the painting from Pompeii these people look Roman more than Egyptians.
davidcici11 2 weeks ago
@davidcici11 Did you happen to read about the meeting in 1995 it was agreed that Ancient Egypt was given rise by an African population. You can find that information on the link I gave you via message.
'74 is 10 years after black Americans were given civil rights in America (still a prejudice era). Egypt during this period were hostile toward Sudanese. The country did not get its independence till '56 and ironically the Aswan Dam did not wipe out Ancient Nubian sites till early 60's
davidcici11 2 weeks ago
@davidcici11
The Egyptians always were hostile against the "Sudanese" The delegates were not Egyptian.
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@davidcici11
Copts have been analysed as not being different from other Egyptians. Copts do not look Negroid
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@davidcici11
Still overwhelmingly egyptologists think that today's Egyptians are descended from Ancient Egyptians and for obvious reasons the Copts have not mixed with Muslims or "Arabs"
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@davidcici11
"UNESCO convened the "Symposium on the Peopling of Ancient Egypt and the Deciphering of the Meroitic Script" in Cairo in 1974. At that forum the "Black Egyptian" theory was rejected by 90% of delegates and the symposium concluded that Ancient Egyptians were much the same as modern Egyptians."
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Page 280 – TOME 1: He speaks about another African woman found in a rich sarcophagus.
He says that their type or race ( African women found in the highest spheres of Carthage) still existed in North Africa when they were doing this study…
Furthermore, the African woman Priestess of Tanit had affinities with the Negroid Neolithic race found in North Africa at Tebessa ( Berber region) ) by Debruge [ See Tome I page 237]
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization There are many affinities between the Nubians and the Negroid Neolithic inhabitants of North Africa, the later can be called ETHIOPIANS [ Tome I, Page 331]
Can you stop doing the eurocentric thing which is never show facts to back up your stupid arguments. Modern egyptians by the way you know that there are still millions of native egyptians (black people) Explain why no invader met a white north african its not a hard question
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@meandwot
Every "invader" came across Egyptians who were not sub-Saharans but looked like today's Egyptians
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization There is no such thing as sub-sahara you have made a big enough fool of yourself as it is stop making a bigger fool of yourself. Show some quotes then from romans and greeks who refered to egyptians as anything other than dark skinned people. Like i said before there are millions of native egyptians still black. The white north africans are decendants of slaves and colonists what dont you understand about that. This is the first thing you find out when you study north africa
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@meandwot you are debating @Eurocivilization the racist stalker...he will negroe you and sub sahara you all day long..he thinks that all blacks have one look..but caucasoids are from white to brown skin,,,this fool is trying to tell us who we are,,man don't waste time with him...he will be on another black video next week
jayelldude 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Stephen GSELL [ Tome 1, Page 303] says that negroid people have been found in Algeria in the city of ORAN. They were troglodytes of the NEOLITHIC Period…This clue comforts FURON PALEOLITHIC foundings…
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization 1890 – “The Kabyles or Kabaily of Algerian and Tunisian territories…besides tillage, work the mines contained in their mountains…They live in huts made of branches of trees and covered with clay which resemble the Magalia of the old Numidians…They are of middle stature, their complexion brown and sometimes nearly black.” Written in The Encyclopedia Britannica: Dictionary of Arts, Sciences and General Literature Henry G. Allen Company p. 261 Volume I 1890.
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Anyone who reads French can find articles about the first Berbers who were Blacks. French scholars like Bertholon, Atgier, and Adolphe Bloch were all agreed about the fact that the term moore or maure was initially used for the black men who lived in North Africa.
Il show you somthing as you seem a bit slow still saying the same rubbish without a piece of evidence to back up your insane claim.
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization The impact of the white slave trade and its contribution to the modern biology and appearance of the modern North African stems from before the Arabian and Muslim waves into Africa. The Roman ruler Claudian spoke concerning Gildo, the “Moorish” ruler of Africa and treatment of Roman women from the Levant by this North African chief and his countrymen:
4th century – Claudian wrote, “ when tired of each noblest matron Gildo hands her over to the
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Moors. These Sidonian mothers, married in Carthage city must needs mate with barbarians. He thrusts upon me an Ethiopian as a son-in law, a Berber as a husband. The hideous hybrid affrights its cradle.” Claudian, by Claudius Claudianus, translation by Maurice Platnauer, Published by G.P. Putnam’s sons, 1922 p. 113. (Gildo was brother to other Berber chiefs Firmus and Maseczel. Gildo is related to Aguellid or Galdi which remains the modern Tuarek word for chief. Masek,
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Amazigh ot Imoshagh was the name for the ancient and modern Tuareg clans in general. The Mezikes tribes were called “Ethiopians” in a Roman text of the time. )
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@meandwot
Amazigh (sing) is a Berber word now applied to all Berber tribes who now inhabit North Africa including the small Tuareg clans which still roam about in the desert of south Algeria and Libya and northern Mali and Niger.
The Malians have a deep psychological fear of the Tuaregs who used to kidnap sub-Saharans at will as any Malian will tell you, even Diop the Senegalese of the Ramases helmet fame.
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Look for some reas you keep saying things with no evidence. Tauregs are black idiot and again this is how stupid you are lmao you cant even talk about the moors in some parts of europe such as spain that is fear. THere is no such thing as sub-saharan its made up and for the record as you seem really slow mali is north west africa its still north africa and is a berber country like senegal, chad and niger. Of cause you wouldnt know that as you are so stupid
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization The Berber language is called Tamazight of which there are many dialects including Tarifit or Riffi (northern Morocco), Kabyle (Algeria) and Tashelhiyt (central Morocco), Tamasheq(Niger). Tamazight has been a written language, on and off, for almost 3000 years. It was first written in the Tifinagh alphabet, still used by the Tuaregs of Libya, Niger, Nigeria, Mali and Senegal. The oldest dated inscription is from about 200 BC.
Only the native berbers speak all the languages
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization The Garamanti Empire was a Black Berber empire that flourished in Fezzan, Southern Libya. It was a contemporary of the Roman Empire and was a great challenge to the Rome since it never came under the Roman but rather remained independent until the 7th centure C.E when it declined most probably as a result of environmental changes. Scholars reckon that the Garamanti Empire lasted for about
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization The Garamanti Empire was a Black Berber empire that flourished in Fezzan, Southern Libya. It was a contemporary of the Roman Empire and was a great challenge to the Rome since it never came under the Roman but rather remained independent until the 7th centure C.E when it declined most probably as a result of environmental changes. Scholars reckon that the Garamanti Empire lasted for about
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization The Garamanti Empire was a Black Berber empire that flourished in Fezzan, Southern Libya. It was a contemporary of the Roman Empire and was a great challenge to the Rome since it never came under the Roman but rather remained independent until the 7th centure C.E when it declined most probably as a result of environmental changes. Scholars reckon that the Garamanti Empire lasted for about
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization 1,000 years, from about 400 BCE to 600 CE, in today’s central Libya (Fezzan), although Fezzan has been continuously occupied by early culture societies as early as the 8th millennium B.C.E. The Fezzan region touches the Libyan coastal zone in the north, the Libyan Desert in the east, the Tibesti massif of Chad to the south, and the Hoggar massif along with the Grand Erg Oriental of Algeria to the west.
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization 1,000 years, from about 400 BCE to 600 CE, in today’s central Libya (Fezzan), although Fezzan has been continuously occupied by early culture societies as early as the 8th millennium B.C.E. The Fezzan region touches the Libyan coastal zone in the north, the Libyan Desert in the east, the Tibesti massif of Chad to the south, and the Hoggar massif along with the Grand Erg Oriental of Algeria to the west.
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization 1,000 years, from about 400 BCE to 600 CE, in today’s central Libya (Fezzan), although Fezzan has been continuously occupied by early culture societies as early as the 8th millennium B.C.E. The Fezzan region touches the Libyan coastal zone in the north, the Libyan Desert in the east, the Tibesti massif of Chad to the south, and the Hoggar massif along with the Grand Erg Oriental of Algeria to the west.
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization 1,000 years, from about 400 BCE to 600 CE, in today’s central Libya (Fezzan), although Fezzan has been continuously occupied by early culture societies as early as the 8th millennium B.C.E. The Fezzan region touches the Libyan coastal zone in the north, the Libyan Desert in the east, the Tibesti massif of Chad to the south, and the Hoggar massif along with the Grand Erg Oriental of Algeria to the west.
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization 1,000 years, from about 400 BCE to 600 CE, in today’s central Libya (Fezzan), although Fezzan has been continuously occupied by early culture societies as early as the 8th millennium B.C.E. The Fezzan region touches the Libyan coastal zone in the north, the Libyan Desert in the east, the Tibesti massif of Chad to the south, and the Hoggar massif along with the Grand Erg Oriental of Algeria to the west.
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization This range is the traditional range of the nomadic Black Berbers who still live in the territory even today.
Im still waiting for you to stay showing cases of people meeting white north africans because right now its your retarded opinion up against facts.
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization This range is the traditional range of the nomadic Black Berbers who still live in the territory even today.
Im still waiting for you to stay showing cases of people meeting white north africans because right now its your retarded opinion up against facts.
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@meandwot
There are only about 300,000 Nubians
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@meandwot
There are only about 300,000 Nubians
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@meandwot
There are only 300,000 Nubians
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization GSELL further says about the slaves in Carthage that : ” Les Pays Méditerranéens alimentaient largement les marchés d’esclaves” ie “Mediterranean Countries supplied fully the slave markets ” ie White slaves were predominant in Carthage….[Tome IV page 140]
There is no mention of white north africans other than as slaves
meandwot 2 weeks ago
by the way Northern Europeans have straight hair not curly hair, I have curly hair. Curly hair can also be an indicator of mixed ancestry.
But in the regard of the Egyptians it was most likely of Cushitic East African origin. Most Horners live in a "hot dry climate" while certain other Africans live in a forest type tropical evironment this explains those morphologies more than exact genetic ancestry.
davidcici11 3 weeks ago
@davidcici11
I have curly hair. I assure you I haven't got Negroid blood in me. I've known a few Scandinavians with curly hair. More to the point everyone in the Fayum portraits seems to have curly hair though they are manifestly not Negroid
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization your not getting it. Their is E carriers in Europe, I never questioned that but it is obviously of recent origin, possibly dating back to the Neolithic period around 10,000 years ago.
Hence is why M78 didn't leave Sudan till 10.8 kya.
Whether Europeans or Western Asians carry E lineages it is a subset of E lineages and like I said only two are found outside of Africa.
And Phenotype doesn't correlate with ancestry, you do know that right? Any anthropologist will tell you that
davidcici11 3 weeks ago
@davidcici11
I have curly hair and I am not a Negro. And I've known quite a few Europeans with curly hair and they are not Negroes . And all the Fayum portraits show men and women with curly hair and they are plainly not Negroes
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization That means you are mixed though the moors were all over europe and as was stated in the sciilian film true romance the moors were niggers as they stated. Why do you try to pass a mixed people off as native? Thats like me going to Tazmania, taking pictures of white people and trying to pass them off as native ignoring the old photo's of natives ignoring the descriptions and ignoring the ancient remains. Like i said you cannot show accounts of white north africans.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Were are the ancient white berber artworks show some remains.
You can find many proofs or clues concerning the existence of the ORIGINAL black Berbers [often called western Ethiopians by classical historians like Romans and Greeks; See : GSELL, TOME 1, Page 295 to 304] during Antiquity and later on.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization So are you suggesting that Nilo-Saharan speaking Kenyans and Tanzanians who also have curly to straight hair, are related to Scandavians? They also have narrow faces and features, I got this from out of one of my college anthropology textbook this is one example (textbook) of why genetic ancestry doesn't correlate with phenotype (physical features).
Hair morphology is going to tell you the least, curly or straight is not a European or non-African creation.
davidcici11 3 weeks ago
@davidcici11
Again look at the Fayum paintings. Greeks, Egyptians, men , women are shown with curly hair "ulotrichous"
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
I find it extraordinary that the Moors or Berbers who took so many millions of Africans as slaves, as people from Niger,Mali, Chad can attest and despise them to boot are now a prime target of wannabeism for American Negroes.
It is as if they are suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
We know of the emotional need of Negrocentrism. The procedure is to look for history books in English, or translated into English and then to look for words such as "dark", "black" or "woolly hair" Then take these extracts, record them and YouTube them about. Then make any amazing concusion. Eg like the Olmecs were Negroes some of whom were shipped from the US to Seville as slaves.
Even the people of Georgia , the Colchis were supposed to have "woolly hair"!!
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization The term Moor has been put to diverse use, but its roots are still traceable. The word Moor originates from the Roman word Marues, which is a derivate of the Greek adjective Mauros (i.e. black or dark). In the year 46BC the Roman army entered NorthWest Africa where they encountered black Africans whom they called “Maures”. During the European Renaissance explorers, writers and scholars began to apply the term Moor to Africans in general.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@meandwot
I referred to the North African Moors in Moorish Spain. They were not Negro or "black" And even in Roman times, they were not Negro or "black"
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization What a surprise more stupid comments from a eurocentric with out a piece of evidence lmao first of all the Colchis were an egyptian colony and as herotodus stated they were black and as the pictures from the early 1900s show. Do you know what that means the white people who you think are Colchis are not. Just like you are not native to Australia, Tazmania infact anywere outside of central asia you are not native to Georgia. You so stupid the olmecs came from west africa nothing
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@meandwot
Is this yet another case of "an ancient black civilization " this time in the Caucasus, replaced by fraudulent Georgians? Shall we add the Colchis to the Egyptians, Moors, Greeks, Cambodians, Native Americans, Hebrews, Sicilians, Etruscans, Phoenicians,Carthaginians, Olmecs, Sumerians, 12 tribes of Israel, Arabs who were supposed to be "black"?
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization to do with slaves you are the slave race idiot we gave you the name slave. The original Riffian moors were black and dealt heavily in the european slavetrade if you new anything you would know that and you would also know that the pictures from the early 1900s show the riffs as black still. The Kabyles again the white members of that tribe have slave origins and the leaders are all black from algeria to morocco
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@meandwot
So the Riffs were black in the 1900s and after 1900 when they had already been ruled by France they acquired so many European slaves that they have more blondes than Italians! I think you are stark, raving mad.
"the white members of that tribe have slave origins and the leaders are all black from algeria to morocco" If you look at photos of Cabinet Ministers of both Algeria or Morocco you won't see one single Negro. Not one even token black
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Although one does find many Kabyles who appear like northern and eastern Europeans in phyenotype, this is probably attributable to admixture with European women slaves. It is widely acknowledged that the male gene of the kabyles are certainly tropical African in origin whereas their mtDNA genes (the female gene) harken back to some European roots.
Genetics show the Kabyles are related to the Taureg and Oromo people lmao i believe thats what we call ownage
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@meandwot
Perhaps you are right. Perhaps that is why North Africans and Egyptians call Black people "abid" or slave, in a generic non-insulting way.
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Silius Italicus a Roman writer around the beginning of the Christian era describes the Maures as Nigra a Latin work for dark complexion. Other Roman documents referenced other Berbers groups such as the “black Gaetuli and black-skinned Asphodelodes.”
Your listing tribes without knowing anything about them you have not seen old pictures of them you have not seen descriptions all you see is the slave members of the tribes and think they are native. Show 1 case of someone meeting
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization a white north african. Anthropologists and historians generally agree pointed out that Black African nationalities such as the Tibbu and Tuwarek (Tuaregs), are the aboriginal Berber tribes of the central Sahara. They include the Lamta Berbers, and the Haratin of Morocco and Mauritania.
A white man cannot be a moor because it means black.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization So I am guessing when it is the other way around you Euro's try to find anything that represents "white purity" failing to realize Africans associated purity with the color "black" hmm...I wonder why Europeans associate purity with white, and Africans associate black with purity?
Wait I thought Woolly hair was only amongst Negroid people? So I am guessing that is a white invention.
If anyone described any pop with wolly hair and black skin I wonder what comes to mind??
davidcici11 3 weeks ago
@davidcici11
Could be the translation into "woolly". Often the original meant "curly". Don't you believe those American Negroes who give you translations of original Classic Greek and Latin words. Rest assured they don't know either of the two languages.
But if you look at the hair of both Ancient Greeks and Egyptians in the Fayum portraits
you would know what ancient Greek historians meant.
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Don't get mad us get mad at the Greeks who said they had wooly hair you Euro faggot!
cobracongo 3 weeks ago
@cobracongo
Or better still get mad at the idiot who is supposed to know classic Greek and translated it for you, TwoTone Lips!
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Ha ha you whites hate black skin but you get skin cancer trying to get dark, you make fun of us for having thick lips but you pay for lip injections and now even butt implants. Like I said get mad @ Wallis Budge, Albert Churhward, Godfrey Higgins ect... All stated the Egyptians were black you no lip neanderthal. If you hate black people so much, why don't you ignore our videos?
cobracongo 3 weeks ago
@cobracongo
I don't hate anyone. But I hate wannabeism
"UNESCO convened the "Symposium on the Peopling of Ancient Egypt and the Deciphering of the Meroitic Script" in Cairo in 1974. At that forum the "Black Egyptian" theory was rejected by 90%, REPEAT 90% of delegates and the symposium concluded that Ancient Egyptians were much the same as modern Egyptians"
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Wow a bunch of whites and Arabs rejecting overt evidence. The same Euro fags that told me Ethiopians were white and Egypt was not in Africa. I am suppose to believe them? They the same exact hair styles as other Africans enough said,
cobracongo 3 weeks ago
@cobracongo
Weren't you bussed? Don't they do it for grown-ups?
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@cobracongo
I am sure you are an expert at translating Classic Greek! Ghetto schools I learn were great centres of learning before bussing, quotas and affirmative action ruined them!!
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization I could care less about Greeks and Romans who were both fucking faggots like yourself. Like I told your faggot ass before the culture of ancient Egypt was African as stated by your own white scholar such as Higgins, Albert Churchwood and Gerald Massey I could name more like Robert Bauval get his book Black Genesis, so go argue and try debunk them. Im sure your attempt will be pathetic. If you hate blacks so much stay off our videos.
cobracongo 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization then why didn't the Greeks describe their hair as being wholly then? And so-called Negro translation? LOL it was translated into English by Englishmen. And to the account of a certain Greeks they usually always compared Egyptians with Ethiopians to my understand the word Ethiopia in ancient times meant African. And also to my understanding hair morphology is not an indication of white ancestry, or so-called Eurasian ancestry.
Science evidence disproves this racial notion
davidcici11 3 weeks ago
you learn alot each day
MsChinaDoll071 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Guy Ducatez et Jacky Ducatez; Al Gahiz, Kitab Fahr as Sudan Ala l-bidan.
Lmao there we see some moorish books the pride of the blacks over the white yh sounds like a book a people who couldnt even read or write at this time would write.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@meandwot
The Berbers (Kabyles, Riffians, Chleuhs, Chawis, Imazifgen) were not and aren't Negroes.
The Berbers know who they are, and everyone knows what they did. Ask Malians, people from Niger etc. Don't read extracts from a translation of a translation looking for words such as "dark", "woolly hair" Just go and talk to these people. Not only are they not black, they call Blacks "abd" or "abid" ie slave.
The Fayum portraits show people with curly hair and they are White
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization the Auelamidden have since moved southward and live in Niger. Also just for you maybe you should check out several books by a famous muslim since you are interested in the moors. Al-Jahiz (776-869): Al-Fakhar al-Sudan min al-Abyadh (the prides of blacks over the whites) Book of the Glory of the Black race translated by : Vincent J. Cornell- The boast of the blacks over the whites translated by T. Khalidi in Islamic Quarterly. -
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@meandwot
"the Auelamidden have since moved southward" This is the Negrocentrics default line. Highly civilized people like the Egyptians, Moors are supposed to have moved south, forgetting everything apart from learning how to build mud huts.
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Yusuf Tachfin who had come from a long line of miltary rulers. According to “Roudh el-Kartas” (History of the Rulers of Morocco) by Abd Allah, and A.Beaumier’s French translation of the 14th century work, Yusuf was of “brown color”, of “middle height” with , “ thin, little beard, soft voice” and “woolly hair”. The Almoravid dynasty was supposedly composed mainly of Sanhaja clans of Massufa, Joddala (Gaetuli) and Lamtuna (or Auelimidden Tuareg)-
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Tamanrasset is home to the natives idiot and there are 15,000 cave paintings there thate date back 6000bce all of them are of black people and were made a world heritage of all the idiots i have defeated you do seem to be the dumbest. 14th – The Almoravid or Al Murabitun dynasty coming from the Atlas was one of the last dynasties coming from Africa to rule in the Iberian peninsula. One of the 11th century rulers of Andalusia and North Africa was
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization See also The Berbers in Arab Literature by H.T. Norris 1982.p. 20. Harvey , L.P. “Nugaymath Turquia, Primera Cronica General, Chapter 956” Journal of Semitic Studies 13, no. 2:232. Targiyyat or Targiya is a variant form or pronunciation in North Africa for the name Tuareg. 13th or 14th century Abu Shama, a Syrian, described the Masmuda Berbers as “blacks” in his, Kitab al-Ravdatayn. Found in Golden Age of the Moor, 1991 edition p. 57, edited by Dr. Ivan Van Sertima.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization 13th century – Primary Cronica General of Alphonso X of Spain describes the 300 Almoravid “Amazon” women whose leader is described as black and Moorish. They were “led by their leader Nugaymath al-Tarqiyya (the “star of the Tuareg archers” in Arabic) who led the Almoravid siege of Valencia”; cited in Nubian Queens in the Nile Valley by Carolyn Fluehr-Lobban, Ninth International Conference of Nubian Studies, Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, USA.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@meandwot
"who led the Almoravid siege of Valencia”; cited in Nubian Queens in the Nile Valley by Carolyn Fluehr-Lobban," What crap is this? Valencia, Almoravids and Nubian Queens??? And these are supposed to be devout Muslims?
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Found in Madan’s translation of Juvenal, vol. I by J. Vincent published at Oxford. North africans are black idiot what yous ee in libya is the decendants of slaves and european colonists working with there parent nations to steal power from the blacks how stupid are you look seriously now if you continue to say stupid things i will block you bring some facts or go away. I am getting fed up with idiots who can never bring any evidence so they try to pass off their stupid opinion
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization On the Libyo Berbers called – Gaetules or Jeddala
The Gaitules were the most populous of the Libyan tribes of Strabo’s time (1st century AD). Josephus claimed they were descended from Havilah or the Avalioi who he says children of Kush child of Ham.
1st -2nd century – Juvenal, the Roman writer in his Satire V. 53 referred to “a Gaetulian, as a black a Moor “so black you’d rather not see him at midnight”..
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Instead of continueing with the book i will show you some things as you seem like the typical eurocentric it was obvious you were by your nam anyway eurocivilization which there has never been anyway. 1901 – The Oases if Nafzawa and Wed Suef and Wed Regh and other Berbers of the Sus as “of very dark complexion” in Guiseppi Sergi The Mediterranean Race: The Study of the origin of European peoples The Walter Scott Publishing Company
meandwot 3 weeks ago
Moors (2 of 2)
There is a drawing of supposed Riffian pirates painted in1850. This is supposed to show that the North Africans were Berbers(true) and that they were black (a joke) and that they became white because they captured white women(a howler). Just Google (images) "Riffian people" No blacks. Morocco and Algeria were conquered by the French in 1830 and stopped piracy, period.A NegroCentric joke! In fact the Riffian people, the Kabilye & other Berbers had more blue eyed people than Italy
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
(Moor 1 of 2)
The Moors, at least the ones who were in Moorish Spain, were overwhelmingly Berbers or Amazigh as they prefer to be called with some Arabs. If one goes to North Africa one sees basically Arab-speaking Amazigh people, Amazigh-speaking Amazigh and a few Arab-speaking Arabs. The Amazigh look "White" or Mediterranean. Just YouTube "Amazigh"
to see what they look like. Roman paintings and statues of Berbers show that they were pretty much indistinguishable from Romans.
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization The taureg are in parts of libya, algeria and north west africa mali and senegal strange that north west africa is still black and was never colonised by the turks. These people played a huge part in the slavetrade of european women yes most slaves in north africa and north east africa were white women hence why you have mongrels now in these countries. Show 1 case of an invader meeting a white north african
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@meandwot
The Tuaregs form perhaps 1 out of 20 of Berber-speakers. They moved south on the continent in the 11th century AD, taking slaves from Negro groups. These éklan once form a distinct social class in Tuareg society and are sometimes mistaken for Tuaregs. they are a class held in an inherited serf-like condition.
The Tuaregs were the main transporters of Black slaves across the Sahara as people from Niger, Mali etc and even the weird Negrocentrist Diop from Dakar can attest.
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Idiot the Tauregs are not south they are in north africa and north west africa they have never moved south they have only been to europe were the delt heavily in the slavetrade of white women. You make a fool of yourself were are the white north africans show cases of someone meeting white north africans.
From ‘The Song of Roland’
(Anonymous Old French epic
middle of the 11th century)
CXXV
Their martyrdom, his men’s, Marsile has seen,
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@meandwot
Even American Negroes know that the Tuaregs live in the Sahara. They've never been to Europe. You don't even see them in North African cities. Why should they? They had easier pickings around them in Mali and Niger etc
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization The Tauregs live in north africa the sahara and north west africa they do not respect the nato borders and the made up western countries all of the native berbers live like that and are found in multiply countries how do you not know that. Why are you also acting like the tauregs are the only native north africans left if you go morocco its 2/3rds dark still libya 50% black algeria has millions of natives south mauritania and tunisia all black were have you been in north africa
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization The Black Presence in North Africa ( Algeria, Tunisia, Libya ) during the Paleolithic and NEOLITHIC periods is also demonstrated: [Bertholon TOME 1 ; pp 237 to 241]
Please take special note of Pr Lucien Bertholon acknowledging that Black people in Carthage were in the highest spheres, specially our African Queens/women :
- Pages 270-271 TOME 1 ;( The African woman Priestess of TANIT and found in a rich design sarcophagus).
Were did the white north africans go?
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@meandwot
Idiot, they are south in so far as North Africa goes. To North Africans, Tuaregs live somewhere in the "south"
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization They are not south though if they are in Libya, Algeria and morocco how is that south? How is it south when the lowest point the Tauregs reach is north west africa? That is still north africa. Why do you keep going on about the tauregs anyway? They are 1 of many native tribes of north africa. You seem to also act like you have never seen egyptian artwork and only talk about the greek and roman periods they ruled for 972 years they are not egyptians.
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization The Chanson of Roland states that the Moorish army was 50,000 strong and led by Marganice, Emperor of Ethiopia and Carthage. Their most valiant figure is described as Abisme (probably a derivative of, Abyssinian), who (verse 126) is described as black as melted pitch. In this epic, the Moors are called Sarrazins, in English, Saracens.
Thats clear how the moors looked to europeans right so again what happened to the white north africans then?
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization The four Moorish kings killed in battle by Pedro VIII, king of Aragon, on November 18, 1096, who were depicted in the official coat of arms of Aragon, are shown as Black Africans kings. See Biblioteca de escritores aragoneses. Blancas. Comentarios de las cosas de Aragon. Seccion histor. 3, p. 110. 1878.
Now these wee moorish kings killed so if the blacks were the rulers then what were the whites?
Just for you some people who state egypt was black and some who state it was
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@meandwot
No,YOU tell me who the 4 Moorish kings of Aragon were, with names and dates. And of course show me their portraits, not identical silhouettes
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Look up moors on european coats of arms and you will see them all. I also asked you to start showing people meeting white egyptians or moors its not a hard question you make a fool of yourself. You talk about Hati yet fail to mention how the french bankrupt that country you have listed countries that you have destroyed and continue to attack. You who dumps toxic waste in peoples waters, starves people through sanctions, instigates conflicts, funds genocides, takes part in
meandwot 1 week ago
@EuroCivilization genocide and experiments on people then you sit there and talk about how they live. Why do you never talk about how they lived before you? Why dont you talk about how you lived were you would shit and sleep in the same corner of the cave, were your people would die of lice, lets not forget what the plague did to you, you believed washing was a sin these african moors built over 200 public baths in spain alone to help you. Look at yourself before you judge others.
meandwot 1 week ago
@EuroCivilization There are a people now forgotten discovered while others were yet barbarians the elements of the arts and sciences. A race of men now rejected for their black skin and wooly hair founded the study of the laws of nature, those civil and religious systems which still govern the Universe.” C F Volney:18th century French academician of the highest esteem in European academic circles. Book: ” Ruins Of Empire,” 1789.
You have many different people in egypt yes the black natives
meandwot 1 week ago
@EuroCivilization are decendants of the ancient egyptians the mixedbreeds are the result of slavery and colonisation to me and to most people they are not egyptian but will always be greeks, romans, turks and so on. The first civilised inhabitants of the Nile ad Tigris-Euphrates Valleys were a dark-skinned people with short hair and prominent lips…” French historian, Professor Charles Seignobos:” History of Ancient Civilisation.”
meandwot 1 week ago
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meandwot 2 weeks ago
meandwot 2 weeks ago
@meandwot
Decide what you want to say? Are today's Egyptians descended from the Ancient Egyptians or not? I say they are, and they are overwhelmingly not Negroid. So what is your opinion (not that of "Anzac troops")?
So did 90% of the egyptologists at the UNESCO 1974 symposium
EuroCivilization 2 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization So he bids sound his horns and his buccines;
Then canters forth with all his great army.
Canters before a Sarrazin, Abisme,
More felon none was in that company;
Cankered with guile and every felony,
He fears not God, the Son of Saint Mary;
Black is that man as molten pitch that seethes;
Better he loves murder and treachery
Than to have all the gold of Galicie;
Never has man beheld him sport for glee;
meandwot 3 weeks ago
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meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization With no part white, only their teeth except,
Then says that count: “I know now very well
That here to die we’re bound, as I can tell.
Strike on, the Franks! For so I recommend.”
Says Oliver: “Who holds back, is condemned!”
Upon those words, the Franks to strike again.
For some reason you keep coming with your stupid opinion and cannot show any facts i am asking you simply were in history are white north africans other than as slaves no one met a white north african
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization and look down upon the harbour for which the galley is steering. Now the guns of the pirate vessel begin to roar. Salute after salute is fired, in joy of return and to announce that the cruise has been a success, and soon a delighted crowd throngs the shore to welcome their friends, and to see what is being brought in.
For every stupid comment you make i will post more from the book notice how you were called pale faced captives. Now for the tauregs quickly
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization But the pale-faced captives look forward with no such joyous hope. Every beat of the oars carries them so much the nearer to the land where they must live in slavery. The shore now rises fast, and they see a rocky promontory which shines white in the sun. They draw nearer, and see that the patch of colour is a town built on a steep hillside. Row upon row, tier upon tier, the white shining houses of Algiers climb the encircling sweep of hills
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization with a scimitar at his girdle and a turban on his head. His crew and his soldiery are packed mostly at the prow, and all stare eagerly towards the land to catch the first glimpse of Algiers. They have had a long cruise, they have taken much spoil, and they long for the welcome they will receive, and the pleasures waiting for them in the city. There we see a clear distinction between a moor and a turk yet you quote turks lmao so stupid anyway
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization and the boatswain lashes him furiously or gives him a savage prod with the sharp spike which is set in the end of the whip handle. No slave may resist this cruelty, even if he dared, for he is fast chained to the rowing bench and is utterly helpless.
On the poop is the Reis, the captain, perhaps a great black Moor, or a brown-faced Turk, or a swarthy renegade, but dressed and armed in Turkish fashion,
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization with at best no more than a few rags to cover them, and urged to their work by the boatswains. The latter walk along a narrow gangway running up the waist of the galley, and from it they can reach easily to the oar benches on either side. Each boatswain is armed with a heavy whip, and uses it without mercy. Look at the great weals and the fresh, blood-stained marks on the naked backs of the oarsmen! Let one but falter an instant at his heavy task,
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Then look at what you quote not a moor but a turk again i will show slave records. Barbary Rovers by John Finnemore
And what was the life of these poor captives carried into slavery among the Barbary rovers? Let us suppose ourselves on board an Algerine galley returning home after a successful cruise. She is going merrily over the sea under oar and sail. The oars are pulled by Christian slaves, meagre, half-starved, sun-tanned wretches,
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Do you see your ignorance would you tell me to go to Tazmania to see how a native looks because there are none if you do not know the history of these countries then do not comment on them. For the record morocco is still 2/3rds dark even after the genocide have you been to algeria have you been to Tamanrasset this black area in south algeria? Moor was used before islam it has nothing to do with a religion its to do with a people it means black it has a meaning.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
Go to Morocco and Algeria to see what the Moors look like. One can also be brave and tell them that they were black! To go and learn about Moorish Spain is precisely Spain and North Africa not German coat of arms or whatever. In the authorative Diccionario de la lengua española from Real Academia there are 10 definitions of "moro " including the main one "Muslim inhabitants of North Africa" and none mentions "black" or "dark" From Morocco to Egypt a Black is referred to as "abid" slave
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
The North Africans are mostly Berbers who speak either Berber languages or Arabic. They have a small minority of Blacks ie Negroes who were mostly descendants of slaves. The North Africans or Moors call Blacks even now in 2012 "abid" or "slave" and it is not meant to be insulting.
The Berbers or Moors prefer to call themselves "Amazigh" If you want to see what the Moors look like just YouTube "Amazigh"
I don't know where this man got the tribal bare-breasted women in Muslim Libya!!!!!
EuroCivilization 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Get your facts right the native north african berbers are black first of all the whites are decendants of slaves and colonists. The term moor means black for the record now the white people of north africa only speak 2 berber languages because they were the ones who enslaved them they speak taragi which is a taureg language a black tribe who have a white slave branch and they speak tamazaigh these speakers were the largest enslaver of white people ever they include the lembuna
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization Abhas nothing to do with black people it means servant but these turks do not even speak actually arabic so do not know the meanings if you bothered to check arab texts you would know most slaves were white. One of these Arabic speakers, the Syrian , Al Dhahabi wrote in the 14th century “Red, in the speech of the people from the Hijaz, means fair-complexioned and this color is rare amongst the Arabs. This is the meaning of the saying, …
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@meandwot
IM NORTH AFRICAN AND WE ARE NOT BLACK NOT ARABS YOUR VIDEOS ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STUPID
ayur1985 3 weeks ago
@ayur1985 You are either a decendant of a slave or a colonists you are not native you are not black you are not african. Show 1 case in history of someone meeting white north africans or whatever you think you are.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@meandwot u are supid
ayur1985 3 weeks ago
@ayur1985 1st century Silius Italicus also describes the Moors with the term ‘Nigra’ meaning black. In the 3rd century Roman dramatist Platus or Plautus maintained the name Maure was a synonym for “Niger” which was a common term for the word black. 6th century Isidore Archbishop of Seville claimed the word Maure meant black according to Brunson and Runoko Rashidi in “The Moors in Antiquity” in Golden Age of the Moor, 1991.
How do you fit the description? You are the stupid one.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
@EuroCivilization a red man as if he is one of the slaves. The speaker meant that his color is like that of the slaves who were captured from the Christians of Syria, Rome and Persia.” See, Seyar al Nubala’a, Al Dhahabi of Damascus Syria, also cited on p. 55, The Unknown Arabs, 2002. I advice you to check out the man who stopped the east african slavetrade the omani arabs were and are black. If you wish to learn things on the moors ask and i will tell you as you seem real confused.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
very uneducated. very ignorant. false video. but i hope you had fun editing it.
MrPa1310 4 weeks ago
@MrPa1310 Idiot lmao everything is this video is fact the problem is you being a decendant of a slave or a colonist do not know your own history. I tell you what why dont you show cases of people meeting white north africans. The page is yours i wait for your findings.
meandwot 3 weeks ago
The ONLY way to the Father is thur the Son. If you believed and had the Spirit of God in you it would be plain. You don't so naturally you don't believe, it's not my job to woo you but I'll pray that you get out of your worldly knowledge and get into God's wisdom. To fear God is the beginning of wisdom. Knowledge doesn't equal salvation that comes by way of Jesus Christ.
God bless you.
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