@Nomoreidsleft Not sure if you're being entirely serious. If you are though, you realize the corpses are from people who donated their bodies right? So shut your hole.
I liked the talk, even though it wasn't really a lecture or anything except a selfcentered person talking about the things that mattered to him in his life and how much work he put in it... Well since you wanted to hear it so bad: good job!
(and I actually do think he did a good job on the pictures, but not on the presentation...)
That's actually really interesting. Normally I'm not a fan of the E in TED because it leads to women barking at a piano or really crappy stage shows but there's an aethetic in x-ray I find very pleasing. Photography is an interesting method for demonstrating how different people view the world. I'd actually hang one of these on my wall or better on a window.
lol. so your another usesles academic. truthis that i dont have aproblem comunicating you have a problem onderstanding. anithing that don't look exactly ast tought to you is dismised. bad speling is part of my individuality just like the need for you to feel superior. besides, facion illustrators nor animators arehired for there typing skils (jobs that i've had). if you want to be a secretary, fine. ill be out in the front lines geting my hands dirty ;)
It's hard to read bad English, especially where the writer haven't even tried! That means, little or no use of capital letters, colons, dots, and all those markers that are meant to make it easier to read and understand the text. English is my second language, but I try my best. I know it's slow when you ain't that good, but you get used to it, your finger tips hit the shift button to make capital letters automatically in the end, and god its worth it.
you're right. Some of their newer lectures aren't even lectures or anything... just people rambling about something unimportant and that everybody knows. But I don't know, I guess I'm still a TED fan.
listen budy, i save graymater for more usefull things. i've heard this all my life and that one of the main reasons why i chose art as my life. damn good at it too. look at it this way, i dont go around telling averibody to draw beter when its not there thing. words are not a medium im interested in. actions speak lowder.
nothing a word prosesor cant fix. still i think we have more in comun than i thought. i use maya for my 3d work. ive always had this and i just gave up on gramer. when it comes to programing then a care about what i type.
@DavidMTRutten it's people like you that im talking about, strictly superficial. i stay away from text cause its the main problem of all western jobs. too many people are just midle man and they all know how to spell corectly cause there life depends on it. in the end the dident produse nither the paper or theink or the PC they used. i dedicate my life to onderstanding nature by produce high cuality image. shoot me a private mesege and ill show you what an iliterat does to avoid text.
Dude thats no excuse for not being able to spell for shit.. it just makes you look like an idiot, don't ever try to write or type something if you can't put a few letters together.
@juanky525, English isn't my first language either. And although I'm not proficient in French, German and Spanish either, I'd definitely try to make sure I make as few mistakes as possible when I'm writing in those languages.
This X-ray dude killed it with Dubstep. (this is ment as a positiv statment)
about what the truth is... its mearly what people repeat to eich other. it could be compleatly fabricated for any agenda but as far as they know its the truth. thats why i stay away from people. i guess we should start using the term actuality more often
I would like to add something about what he says about fashion in the beginning: yes, it IS what's on the inside that counts. But fashion is a form of art. Fashion ON THE RUNWAY is a form of art. It gets to me that ppl cant see or understand that. It is a form of art, and should be appreciated as such.
ít is amazing what this person do.. i just imagened that if every person was thinking as deep as these x-rays we would appreciate things more.. even things that are so minor to us!!
Not only is your perception of reality subjective, but it is also incomplete. We only see a little bit of the spectrum, smell certain molecules, taste certain substances, hear a range of frequencies, and our touch sensitivity is limited. Haha, sucks to be us.
Not to say it shouldnt bother you, but what exactly is the basis for that? A dead body is just that - a dead body. The only person it belonged to is no longer using it and if they gave their consent what could possibly be the problem?
Yeah I'm not saying I'm against it, I just have an innate feeling that it is out of balance. Can't really explain; it's like having irrational fears or not liking broccoli. In my mind's "perfect world" the cycle of life continues as a dead person is buried.
It's like why people treasure valueless names on a scrap of paper (autographs) or would feel very offended if somebody were to vandalise the statue of liberty for instance. Just as it hold a symbolic meaning in our minds, the memories one treasures with a person who is dead cause us to emphasise with others who may have shared memories with Frieda.
Seeing he body being used as a doll and damaged with not significant increase for the greater good, like in medicine, by a total stranger to her as it seems, kinda puts me off. It's not as bad as, say, necrophilia but still.
I know what you mean, there are plenty of reasons people do and should feel this way about using the bodies of dead people. Especially with the third comment but thats also where i differ slightly. It really depends on ones perception of what he does. If one sees him as using a body like a worthless rag doll damaging it and putting it in humiliating poses then i would agree with you 100%. Though i think what he is going has potentially significant value, though not as tangiable as medicine.
I don't know much about electronmagnetic radiation, but i assumed that even though it is ionizing and very damaging to DNA there are no dangerous residual effects? For example x-rays are used to inspect food.
The danger lies in the ability for powerful rays to alter the DNA in your cell, with the risk of turning them into cancer cells.
To my knowledge, the risk from nuclear bombs stems from fact that the used uranium, plutonium, whatever, continues to radiate after detonation; X-rays doesn't.
If any professional physicists would care to correct me, I'd appreciate it.
While not having any university degree, I did discuss this with my teacher in my final year of physics, in relation to irradiated foods due to social issues bring up said issue. But the radiation does not have any residual harm, in relation to nuclear bombs the most damaging would be alpha radiation damaging the DNA strands, along with residue elements such as Strontium; it is dangerous as the human body cannot differ it from calcium and adsorbs it, thus leading to future damaged bodily systems.
Nice way to be so defensive, and swearing on an educational channel to boot! Why dont you calm down and come back to discuss the video when you can conduct yourself like a civilized human being :)
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its disrespect because it used to be a person with thoughts and now its just a frivolous piece of forgettable art. fuck art. if it were for science its one thing, there is benefit in science and the truth science uncovers is WAY more beautiful than anything the human imagination can produce...
if the persons own wishes were to donate their body to art, it isn't anyone's place to call it disrespect. but i've never heard of anyone saying they would donate their body to art, only to science. and yes art is a human thing, but more to the point the appreciation for beauty is a human thing and again, truth and nature is more beautiful than anything we create with our own hands/minds. nature is what created those very minds, we take it for granted and "modern" art adds to the distraction.
it only appears subjective to the mind not versed in scientific truths like fractals and the unthinkably complex and intricate layers of reality that allow shakespear's brain to work or the language he used to evolve the way it did. pay attention in school next time.
The point where your argument truly fails, is your seemingly baseless disconnect of the human mind and nature, acknowledging the fact that it is equally a part of nature as anything else.
True, perfect fractals are results of human computation; nature is close, but not quite there.
You will find no perfect circle in nature. Not one. A perfect circle is a concept that only exists in the human mind, and hence invalidates your assertion.
if you imagine mathematics is "perfected" in the human mind and flawed in nature, its only because of the short comings of your own mind. what the hell are "perfect fractals"...the word perfect is meaningless...if they are not "perfect" in nature as you would imagine "perfect" to be, its because of other mathematically predictable factors that you haven't discovered yet.
i think it would be more useful for me to direct you to the nearest elementary school. its clear the words i am stringing together in these things called sentences are being wasted on you. rather than harping on the first sentence of my comment and eagerly replying without processing the thought, consider the ideas implied when i say "the word perfect is meaningless"...let it marinate...and then proceed to reflect on the fact that mathematics is the language of reality.
Language of reality? Sorry, but that came and went.
Observable reality may be approximations of what we recognize as mathematically perfect (the circle for instance).
If a circle abides completely to the definition of a circle, that circle is perfect; so don't give me crap about the word "perfect" being meaningless. No natural circle has ever done this.
???.............what cave did you just escape from? how are people liek you allowed to even have these kinds of arguments??? that came and went??????...wow
....wow...just give up...on life...please, dont' pretend to have knowledge of science when you don't...
You assert that nature follows mathematical principles(right?), whereas I see humans interpreting and applying mathematics to nature, within some approximation.
no, i don't assert anything. PHYSICS OBSERVES that nature predictably follows mathematics. what YOU SEE is irrelevant, and if anything, proof of your ignorantly subjective and self-important world view. any "approximation" is BECAUSE OF OUR LACK OF MATHEMATICAL KNOWLEDGE, NOT BECAUSE OF NATURES DISCONNECT FROM MATHEMATICS.
I really want to know what you understood when i said "if they are not 'perfect' ...its because of other mathematically predictable factors..."
no, i don't see. because it isn't MY assertion...it is the assertion of people much smarter than either of us. the same people that mathematically predict with confidence what angles of projected radiation would best target a tumor...WHEN something doesn't fit a mathematical model, the model is thrown out or modified, we don't throw our hands up and concede that nature doesn't follow mathematics and can't be predicted...FACT: nature is governed by mathematics
ok...this is obviously over...i think its so funny/sad how you were so confident, but that confidence ended up being totally empty and misplaced. "try harder next time"..."got anything else"...ouch, this must be embarassing...how incredibly ignorant you turned out to be.
cause and effect dictate reality, if the effect ("imperfections" in a circle) is observed in nature...it is irrational, self-important and backwards to imagine that the human mind is simply "perfect" in a way that nature isn't (what you are implying, not what i am implying). believe it or not, the human mind isn't the end all and ultimate determinant of reality, its just an effect among many others. just like we have short comings in our physical strength, we have cognitive short comings.
and my argument fails at the disconnect of the human mind and nature? is that what you got from "the unthinkably complex and intricate layers of reality that allow shakespear's brain to work"? i think your argument fails at your disconnect from language and standards of communication.
Im afraid you have lost me here. You seem to be saying nature is more important than what humans can build. Yet exploring the (natural) human body and plants from an unseen perspective is modern and distractive? Especially the stuff with video x-ray to explore the insides of a living plant - how is this possibly not in the realm of "truth and nature"?
Again with the profanity, please control yourself. If "it" *used* to be a person by definition it is currently not a person. He is no descecrating the body only taking IMAGES of it. And what is with the callous disregard for art anyway? Why do people seem to think it has no educational value let alone value in itself.
are you kidding me?? science has absolutely nothing to do with the human need to create, science has to do with the human need to know...whether the knowledge is practical or not, knowledge is the purpose...and through knowledge, appreciation for the beauty in a reality greater than anything we create
And art was the start of our need to know. We built tools to survive which we continued to improve. After our species acknowledged death and thought about the big question "What happens when we die?" we created ritualistic items and attempted to appease the spirits/deities/gods/what have you; the start of religion. Now we create to make our lives easier or create for the sake of creating. Science and art go hand in hand, and I love both.
i appreciate art as much as the next person, but i appreciate science more. people caught up in the over-inflated importance of art for arts sake bother me because at the end of the day, it is just a distraction from reality. science is ALL ABOUT reality and the bigger picture. art is a self-important part of us that's really only part of the bigger picture, a tiny part. if anything, from what you just said, historical science and the study of ourselves helps us understand why we even like art.
You may call art for art sake self important or a distraction from reality, but that little distraction every once and a while is what keeps us sane. And I honestly don't think the human mind is fully capable of truly comprehending reality no matter how much science uncovers. Then again I could be wrong.
@TheSkepticalArtist artistic expression and science work in harmony. so much so our intellectual makeup can be split into two categories. left and right.
wrong. wrong. wrong. You're making a generalization based on the brain. There are left and right hemispheres, correct. But this isn't 100% correct, even though somethings are seen to be localized most of the time in certain areas (language in the left, math/logic in the right) many aspects of the brains aren't centralized like this. Brain make-up has plasticity, same with brain functions.
Knowledge is not subjective, you either have more or little, neither is bad, they help in projecting your reality, which is limited to your knowledge. Limited by definition carries a bad connotation, but even the option of "more" is limited. I believe you meant to say beliefs are subjective?
sorry man i just read the rest of the conversation there. i thought you were just posting that statement randomly. yeah we have no idea what reality is but it is what it is regardless of our perceptions. what we call reality is a lot different to what, say a bat, calls reality. They see the world through sound where we perceive light. its a strange world alright. have you read the doors of perception by aldous huxley?
@Nogard229 Reality's constraints are defined by scope during the formative period when an infant. It is reactionary stimulus(knowledge) that is used to measure the scope of our reality. It is as the brain casts a net into the world at this time in our life that measures how we can understand reality. The more complex the formative period, the greater the net that can be cast, Aspergers syndrome is a direct result of over complexity which gives us the greatest modern minds, realities.
That's an interesting concept, l'll watch the video, but you may have illusions within a reality but reality is truth, or the actual state of the matter, it's not changeable.
Yes, but who's to say that's not allowed? Just because it changes doesn't mean it's an illusion, or it's not a truth. The truth may be that matter can change frequencies. But I understand your idea, I'm currently watching the video.
Everything is moving, everything fluctuate. To say that truth is a constant is to say that everything is a lie :) Im with you on this one, but i think that everything is true, and that only people can lie :D
Hmmm, you don't seem to understand the bigger picture. Truth is constant, whether the truth is known or unknown, it cannot be changed it is absolute. 1+1 = 2, that is true, you can't say 1+2 = 2. There is only one truth. Reality is truth, and reality is shaped by our knowledge, you make decisions based on your knowledge, your life is limited to your knowledge, it is also shaped by it.
If reality is truth, and reality is shaped by our knowledge, that means that truth is shaped by our knowledge. And as every person has a different knowledge of things, that means that what is truth differs from person to person (truth is in the eye of the beholder, so to say.) That means that truth is something that man has created to rationalize the universe, As "true truth" is an absolute (which should be impossible in this universe if the quantum theory is correct.)
You are somewhat correct, but remember that knowledge does not physically or intrinsically change. The amount, and uniqueness changes, so by change, I mean the amount known and unknown, imagine a wall, which is reality, now imagine white splats of paint at random locations, the white paint is knowledge, and the locations vary from person to person similar to knowledge, but the wall is constant.
Unless constants are illusions which is quite possible, but I based this from experience, that 1+1 will always equal 2, there can only be one truth, so it remains constant. It seems to be the most rational option with my current knowledge. Although it is possible for it to be an illusion, I cannot see the whole "wall" I just see bits and pieces, which can cause illusions.
And also, 1+1=2 does in no way constitute a truth. 1+1 is a human concept. Just as truth is. if you look out into the universe, you will find no truth or lies, and no 1+1=2.
I said I'm choosing the most rational option with my current knowledge, If I choose nothing then I'll stay in a state of regress. With my current knowledge, only one truth exist. You can't say my car is completely red, then say the same car is completely blue, there's only one truth. Similar to the mathematical version, 1+1 = 2, you can't say 1+1=2 and 1+2= 2, it's not possible, only one can be true. Obviously this is what I believe, you can come to your own conclusion.
Why do Art and Science have to be two non overlapping things? Thats seems a bit silly :\ . Saying the human understanding and appreciation of beauty, expression and creation cannot or should not overlap with knowledge may hold up if you are purely talking about scientific truth, but i think it is very important to remember that those who conduct rigirous scientific studies to surpass human shortcomings to understand the secrets of the universe are *still* human, (and so is the public :P)
If they made known they wanted to donate their body to science or art when they die how is that disrespect?
I don't need my body when I die anyway. Why not let someone do something more useful with it rather than just rotting in the ground or put in a urn on a shelf.
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stop bitching ... why shouldnt he be aloud to do what he does
MrDavetheman 7 months ago
I'm appalled. He exploits the dead for his own purposes. It's time that we stand up for necro-rights.
Nomoreidsleft 7 months ago 9
@Nomoreidsleft Not sure if you're being entirely serious. If you are though, you realize the corpses are from people who donated their bodies right? So shut your hole.
TangyGoodness 3 months ago
dont waste your life on these useless 'art'. japan needs your help
iamthe7thwalrus 10 months ago 10
What will happen if he x-rayed his own x-ray machine?
seinVerstand 1 year ago 3
Boeing 747?Only if you remove two of the aircrafts engines,remove the upper deck and remove the body landing gear.Its a 777.
BXBZ88 1 year ago
The song is Always by Bent
e5xq0 1 year ago
wanker
tesiomick 1 year ago 16
Please if someone knows the name of the song at 6:35 write it down... Thanks
And other songs too /not Bent- Always/
drepo94 1 year ago
nice music to this vid =] someone know the titiles?
GrafiGumo 2 years ago
The whole pig bit was a fantastic point of humor in the presentation. The imagery and speech we very revealing.
timidgothica 2 years ago
...semantics, yawn....
TheNEWBobDylan 2 years ago
yeah, can't win em all.
He sounded more like he was selling himself at a job interview, but what the hell. The makers of TED seek out the strange.
Sometimes these odd ducks aren't the best communicators, but that's probably why he only get ten instead of twenty minutes.
OregonCoastGhost 2 years ago 3
I liked the talk, even though it wasn't really a lecture or anything except a selfcentered person talking about the things that mattered to him in his life and how much work he put in it... Well since you wanted to hear it so bad: good job!
(and I actually do think he did a good job on the pictures, but not on the presentation...)
CardKeyOh 2 years ago 2
That's actually really interesting. Normally I'm not a fan of the E in TED because it leads to women barking at a piano or really crappy stage shows but there's an aethetic in x-ray I find very pleasing. Photography is an interesting method for demonstrating how different people view the world. I'd actually hang one of these on my wall or better on a window.
ratholin 2 years ago
@DavidMTRutten
lol. so your another usesles academic. truthis that i dont have aproblem comunicating you have a problem onderstanding. anithing that don't look exactly ast tought to you is dismised. bad speling is part of my individuality just like the need for you to feel superior. besides, facion illustrators nor animators arehired for there typing skils (jobs that i've had). if you want to be a secretary, fine. ill be out in the front lines geting my hands dirty ;)
juanky525 2 years ago
He should definitely do a circuit board, that would be marvellous!!
Ulfer081 2 years ago
I didn't listen to all... I just got pissed about him not mentioned Tesla.... well... uneducated i guess :(
4lx 2 years ago
It's hard to read bad English, especially where the writer haven't even tried! That means, little or no use of capital letters, colons, dots, and all those markers that are meant to make it easier to read and understand the text. English is my second language, but I try my best. I know it's slow when you ain't that good, but you get used to it, your finger tips hit the shift button to make capital letters automatically in the end, and god its worth it.
fuunguus 2 years ago
I don't get what's so remarkable about this. he takes pictures that can be made in photoshop... with much fewer resources.....
shethewriter 2 years ago
@shethewriter: this is the exact thing i wanted to write...
and i think he spends loads of money on something that is not art (he's not creating anything...) neither usefull.
and now, that he's on TED, he can sell his things at a bigger price..
since it is so popular, TED is getting worse and worse in my opinion.
tudoralexe 2 years ago
you're right. Some of their newer lectures aren't even lectures or anything... just people rambling about something unimportant and that everybody knows. But I don't know, I guess I'm still a TED fan.
shethewriter 2 years ago
@DavidMTRutten
listen budy, i save graymater for more usefull things. i've heard this all my life and that one of the main reasons why i chose art as my life. damn good at it too. look at it this way, i dont go around telling averibody to draw beter when its not there thing. words are not a medium im interested in. actions speak lowder.
juanky525 2 years ago
@juanky525
" i save graymater for more usefull things" ; grey matter is exercised, not saved.
"i've heard this all my life"; which proves what, exactly?
"damn good at it too"; we'll have to take your misspelled word for it.
"words are not a medium im interested in"; too bad words are all you get in a YT comment section.
DavidMTRutten 2 years ago
@DavidMTRutten
nothing a word prosesor cant fix. still i think we have more in comun than i thought. i use maya for my 3d work. ive always had this and i just gave up on gramer. when it comes to programing then a care about what i type.
juanky525 2 years ago
@juanky525, or use Google Chrome, that one spell checks all text-fields. I'm a programmer for Rhinoceros 3D, I write the Grasshopper plug-in.
17 errors in your last message. It hurts my eyes and my brain in equal measure. Perhaps you should always write in code...
if (You.WriteInCode()) { You.m_offendedPeople--; }
DavidMTRutten 2 years ago
His new projects, sound very cool. Hope he comes back to TED when he is finished with them.
PeeeU 2 years ago
great video!
quick question - what's that tune at around 9.30min...???
it's a blast from the past and i can't remember?
cheers, keep up good work!
mreguest1000 2 years ago
@mreguest1000 -- The song is "Bent - Always In My Heart" : watch?v=lknZLMgqJlQ
chri5tyH 2 years ago
@DavidMTRutten it's people like you that im talking about, strictly superficial. i stay away from text cause its the main problem of all western jobs. too many people are just midle man and they all know how to spell corectly cause there life depends on it. in the end the dident produse nither the paper or theink or the PC they used. i dedicate my life to onderstanding nature by produce high cuality image. shoot me a private mesege and ill show you what an iliterat does to avoid text.
juanky525 2 years ago
Dude thats no excuse for not being able to spell for shit.. it just makes you look like an idiot, don't ever try to write or type something if you can't put a few letters together.
aspectsofhate 2 years ago
@juanky525, English isn't my first language either. And although I'm not proficient in French, German and Spanish either, I'd definitely try to make sure I make as few mistakes as possible when I'm writing in those languages.
You're not even trying. It's impolite.
DavidMTRutten 2 years ago
By the way, I did some research and the plane is a Boeing 777
mahdesimon 2 years ago 2
Doesn't look like a 747...
mahdesimon 2 years ago
This X-ray dude killed it with Dubstep. (this is ment as a positiv statment)
about what the truth is... its mearly what people repeat to eich other. it could be compleatly fabricated for any agenda but as far as they know its the truth. thats why i stay away from people. i guess we should start using the term actuality more often
juanky525 2 years ago
@juanky525, dude, you made a total of 18 spelling errors in your message. I think you should be more worried about people staying away from you.
DavidMTRutten 2 years ago
Oh man. I laughed so hard.
DannyClayton 2 years ago
maybe english is second language. i wish folks would lighten up with all the spell checking.............
wamazon 2 years ago
@wamazon, English is my third language. Not an excuse. I'm not demanding a flawless text, but this guy didn't even try.
DavidMTRutten 2 years ago
I would like to add something about what he says about fashion in the beginning: yes, it IS what's on the inside that counts. But fashion is a form of art. Fashion ON THE RUNWAY is a form of art. It gets to me that ppl cant see or understand that. It is a form of art, and should be appreciated as such.
darkprincess1012 2 years ago
A bit unsettling... the pictures of dead people... but interesting.
Kargoneth 2 years ago
ít is amazing what this person do.. i just imagened that if every person was thinking as deep as these x-rays we would appreciate things more.. even things that are so minor to us!!
ferre347 2 years ago
Dude X-rays and Dubstep ??? fuck yea
dispenserPEZ 2 years ago
Hello, my name is Nick and I like to X-ray things.
inRLthereisnoCtrlZ 2 years ago 17
couldnt put it simpler but i still think it was worth watching
FlamingHomelessDude 2 years ago
Potentially "Jack the Irradiator" with the lack of bodies out there, lol
javonoUTube 2 years ago 2
he's an artist, pretty cool stuff
ameera14 2 years ago
Siempre muy buenas charlas! Los felicito por el esfuerzo
santiagoscaine 2 years ago
We still havent' found what the song is at 9:17.
I can roughly make out "not before i go to (sleep?)" as the first part of the chorus. Does anyone know the rest or know the song's name/artist?
worldsavy 2 years ago
@worldsavy Bent Always in my Heart
yCherkashin 2 years ago
hey i tried searching for what you gave me but i couldnt find the song. Are you sure that's the right one?
worldsavy 2 years ago
sorry i found the song but couldnt find the version sung by bent
worldsavy 2 years ago
NICE SOUND score!!! ah can you seee me?
step to BIG spaces>>>>
keep keep'in the FREQUENCY LOW!!!!
qrixs 2 years ago
holy cow .. xray video would be mega cool!
hannahskm 2 years ago
I love this, a simple idea but with some nice results.
I wish I could so this type of thing in the college darkroom.
TherianthropeAndrewH 2 years ago
pretty cool
godspeed 2 years ago
what are those dubstep tracks in his video... i need to find them :D
wamukota 2 years ago
Not only is your perception of reality subjective, but it is also incomplete. We only see a little bit of the spectrum, smell certain molecules, taste certain substances, hear a range of frequencies, and our touch sensitivity is limited. Haha, sucks to be us.
LudicrousTachyon 2 years ago
reality is not an illusion. reality is absolute. your PERCEPTION is what is changeable.
aytches 2 years ago 5
this video made me feel sick.
yared94 2 years ago
amazing
Bowzer27 2 years ago
ive donated my body in case i die, i sincerely hope it wont be used for art purposes. i will have to look in to that..
POLlyy23 2 years ago
hell yeah, dubstep documentary.
Ipoonthecasbah 2 years ago
awsom, but hes rather crazy :P
luckystrke 2 years ago 2
PURE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shoxite 2 years ago
I used to be an xray tech, I was always amazed at the intricacy and detail of technological components like watches, cellphones or ipods.
Fermions83 2 years ago
Interesting images, but could be dangerous work.
Shaunt1 2 years ago
whats the song at ~9:17 ???
Pwnagemerchant 2 years ago
what song is at 9:00??
1trip711 2 years ago
Such a interesting method of perspective.
Mazaloth 2 years ago
It's an interesting concept but the fact that he uses dead bodies still bothers me.
yousefamar 2 years ago
Not to say it shouldnt bother you, but what exactly is the basis for that? A dead body is just that - a dead body. The only person it belonged to is no longer using it and if they gave their consent what could possibly be the problem?
Tarciryan2 2 years ago
Yeah I'm not saying I'm against it, I just have an innate feeling that it is out of balance. Can't really explain; it's like having irrational fears or not liking broccoli. In my mind's "perfect world" the cycle of life continues as a dead person is buried.
yousefamar 2 years ago
It's like why people treasure valueless names on a scrap of paper (autographs) or would feel very offended if somebody were to vandalise the statue of liberty for instance. Just as it hold a symbolic meaning in our minds, the memories one treasures with a person who is dead cause us to emphasise with others who may have shared memories with Frieda.
yousefamar 2 years ago
Seeing he body being used as a doll and damaged with not significant increase for the greater good, like in medicine, by a total stranger to her as it seems, kinda puts me off. It's not as bad as, say, necrophilia but still.
yousefamar 2 years ago
I know what you mean, there are plenty of reasons people do and should feel this way about using the bodies of dead people. Especially with the third comment but thats also where i differ slightly. It really depends on ones perception of what he does. If one sees him as using a body like a worthless rag doll damaging it and putting it in humiliating poses then i would agree with you 100%. Though i think what he is going has potentially significant value, though not as tangiable as medicine.
Tarciryan2 2 years ago
VERY cool ^_^
lmao, love the ending where he just pauses, "well that's it, I'm done!" :P
Drey4ltur 2 years ago
If he is continuosly using the same FREDA skeleton doesnt the radiation build up on her and then affect him when he poses her.
CAlex6977 2 years ago
I don't know much about electronmagnetic radiation, but i assumed that even though it is ionizing and very damaging to DNA there are no dangerous residual effects? For example x-rays are used to inspect food.
Tarciryan2 2 years ago
Not really no.
The danger lies in the ability for powerful rays to alter the DNA in your cell, with the risk of turning them into cancer cells.
To my knowledge, the risk from nuclear bombs stems from fact that the used uranium, plutonium, whatever, continues to radiate after detonation; X-rays doesn't.
If any professional physicists would care to correct me, I'd appreciate it.
Aaberg123 2 years ago
While not having any university degree, I did discuss this with my teacher in my final year of physics, in relation to irradiated foods due to social issues bring up said issue. But the radiation does not have any residual harm, in relation to nuclear bombs the most damaging would be alpha radiation damaging the DNA strands, along with residue elements such as Strontium; it is dangerous as the human body cannot differ it from calcium and adsorbs it, thus leading to future damaged bodily systems.
Drayk0S 2 years ago
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ive heard of bodys being used for science but art? this guy's disrespect sickens me
defect530 2 years ago
And why is it disrespect? I think your closed minded high horse attitude is far more sickening than anything shown in this video.
Tarciryan2 2 years ago 4
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@Tarciryan2 are you a body donor? if not you have no say in this matter. i am and i better not be used for ART. fuck off very much asshole.
defect530 2 years ago
Nice way to be so defensive, and swearing on an educational channel to boot! Why dont you calm down and come back to discuss the video when you can conduct yourself like a civilized human being :)
Tarciryan2 2 years ago 3
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its disrespect because it used to be a person with thoughts and now its just a frivolous piece of forgettable art. fuck art. if it were for science its one thing, there is benefit in science and the truth science uncovers is WAY more beautiful than anything the human imagination can produce...
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
You do know art is specifically a human thing right?
TheSkepticalArtist 2 years ago 3
if the persons own wishes were to donate their body to art, it isn't anyone's place to call it disrespect. but i've never heard of anyone saying they would donate their body to art, only to science. and yes art is a human thing, but more to the point the appreciation for beauty is a human thing and again, truth and nature is more beautiful than anything we create with our own hands/minds. nature is what created those very minds, we take it for granted and "modern" art adds to the distraction.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
"truth and nature is more beautiful than anything we create with our own hands/minds."
That's your interpretation.
I'm think of art, as being the process where we expresses our dialectical relationship with nature.
To say that modern art is but a distraction, is to be completely oblivious to history.
How does nature top of the literature of Shakespeare and Keats?
You're using subjective premises, and refuse to acknowledge them as such. Try harder next time.
Aaberg123 2 years ago
it only appears subjective to the mind not versed in scientific truths like fractals and the unthinkably complex and intricate layers of reality that allow shakespear's brain to work or the language he used to evolve the way it did. pay attention in school next time.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
Yet another subjective evaluation.
The point where your argument truly fails, is your seemingly baseless disconnect of the human mind and nature, acknowledging the fact that it is equally a part of nature as anything else.
True, perfect fractals are results of human computation; nature is close, but not quite there.
You will find no perfect circle in nature. Not one. A perfect circle is a concept that only exists in the human mind, and hence invalidates your assertion.
Got anything else?
Aaberg123 2 years ago
if you imagine mathematics is "perfected" in the human mind and flawed in nature, its only because of the short comings of your own mind. what the hell are "perfect fractals"...the word perfect is meaningless...if they are not "perfect" in nature as you would imagine "perfect" to be, its because of other mathematically predictable factors that you haven't discovered yet.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
Please direct me to the nearest, physically existing, perfect circle.
You really have an axe to grind don't you, without understanding that humans can imagine things that doesn't exist in the observable world.
You make some fine assertions in the end. Care to back them up?
Aaberg123 2 years ago
i think it would be more useful for me to direct you to the nearest elementary school. its clear the words i am stringing together in these things called sentences are being wasted on you. rather than harping on the first sentence of my comment and eagerly replying without processing the thought, consider the ideas implied when i say "the word perfect is meaningless"...let it marinate...and then proceed to reflect on the fact that mathematics is the language of reality.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
@justforwatchingcraps
Language of reality? Sorry, but that came and went.
Observable reality may be approximations of what we recognize as mathematically perfect (the circle for instance).
If a circle abides completely to the definition of a circle, that circle is perfect; so don't give me crap about the word "perfect" being meaningless. No natural circle has ever done this.
Aaberg123 2 years ago
"sorry, but that came and went."
???.............what cave did you just escape from? how are people liek you allowed to even have these kinds of arguments??? that came and went??????...wow
....wow...just give up...on life...please, dont' pretend to have knowledge of science when you don't...
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
@justforwatchingcraps
You assert that nature follows mathematical principles(right?), whereas I see humans interpreting and applying mathematics to nature, within some approximation.
Aaberg123 2 years ago
no, i don't assert anything. PHYSICS OBSERVES that nature predictably follows mathematics. what YOU SEE is irrelevant, and if anything, proof of your ignorantly subjective and self-important world view. any "approximation" is BECAUSE OF OUR LACK OF MATHEMATICAL KNOWLEDGE, NOT BECAUSE OF NATURES DISCONNECT FROM MATHEMATICS.
I really want to know what you understood when i said "if they are not 'perfect' ...its because of other mathematically predictable factors..."
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
@justforwatchingcraps
"I really want to know what you understood when i said "if they are not 'perfect' ...its because of other mathematically predictable factors..."
This is what you're asserting. Don't you see?
Aaberg123 2 years ago
no, i don't see. because it isn't MY assertion...it is the assertion of people much smarter than either of us. the same people that mathematically predict with confidence what angles of projected radiation would best target a tumor...WHEN something doesn't fit a mathematical model, the model is thrown out or modified, we don't throw our hands up and concede that nature doesn't follow mathematics and can't be predicted...FACT: nature is governed by mathematics
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
@justforwatchingcraps
By empiricism we've come to terms with the reliability of nature to align itself with our notion of mathematics.
Alignment does not equal governance.
Aaberg123 2 years ago
??...if alignment does not equal governance than what does it equal??
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
ok...this is obviously over...i think its so funny/sad how you were so confident, but that confidence ended up being totally empty and misplaced. "try harder next time"..."got anything else"...ouch, this must be embarassing...how incredibly ignorant you turned out to be.
...grow up...
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
cause and effect dictate reality, if the effect ("imperfections" in a circle) is observed in nature...it is irrational, self-important and backwards to imagine that the human mind is simply "perfect" in a way that nature isn't (what you are implying, not what i am implying). believe it or not, the human mind isn't the end all and ultimate determinant of reality, its just an effect among many others. just like we have short comings in our physical strength, we have cognitive short comings.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
@justforwatchingcraps
I never said, nor implied, that the human mind was perfect. Please argue without the use of petty straw-men.
Aaberg123 2 years ago
and my argument fails at the disconnect of the human mind and nature? is that what you got from "the unthinkably complex and intricate layers of reality that allow shakespear's brain to work"? i think your argument fails at your disconnect from language and standards of communication.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
Im afraid you have lost me here. You seem to be saying nature is more important than what humans can build. Yet exploring the (natural) human body and plants from an unseen perspective is modern and distractive? Especially the stuff with video x-ray to explore the insides of a living plant - how is this possibly not in the realm of "truth and nature"?
Tarciryan2 2 years ago
Again with the profanity, please control yourself. If "it" *used* to be a person by definition it is currently not a person. He is no descecrating the body only taking IMAGES of it. And what is with the callous disregard for art anyway? Why do people seem to think it has no educational value let alone value in itself.
Tarciryan2 2 years ago
And actually if it weren't for art or the human need to create, you wouldn't have science.
TheSkepticalArtist 2 years ago 2
are you kidding me?? science has absolutely nothing to do with the human need to create, science has to do with the human need to know...whether the knowledge is practical or not, knowledge is the purpose...and through knowledge, appreciation for the beauty in a reality greater than anything we create
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
And art was the start of our need to know. We built tools to survive which we continued to improve. After our species acknowledged death and thought about the big question "What happens when we die?" we created ritualistic items and attempted to appease the spirits/deities/gods/what have you; the start of religion. Now we create to make our lives easier or create for the sake of creating. Science and art go hand in hand, and I love both.
TheSkepticalArtist 2 years ago
i appreciate art as much as the next person, but i appreciate science more. people caught up in the over-inflated importance of art for arts sake bother me because at the end of the day, it is just a distraction from reality. science is ALL ABOUT reality and the bigger picture. art is a self-important part of us that's really only part of the bigger picture, a tiny part. if anything, from what you just said, historical science and the study of ourselves helps us understand why we even like art.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
You may call art for art sake self important or a distraction from reality, but that little distraction every once and a while is what keeps us sane. And I honestly don't think the human mind is fully capable of truly comprehending reality no matter how much science uncovers. Then again I could be wrong.
TheSkepticalArtist 2 years ago
@TheSkepticalArtist artistic expression and science work in harmony. so much so our intellectual makeup can be split into two categories. left and right.
NiGhtMarEs0nWax 2 years ago
wrong. wrong. wrong. You're making a generalization based on the brain. There are left and right hemispheres, correct. But this isn't 100% correct, even though somethings are seen to be localized most of the time in certain areas (language in the left, math/logic in the right) many aspects of the brains aren't centralized like this. Brain make-up has plasticity, same with brain functions.
SureFireStorm 2 years ago 2
wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
you mean i actually have to apply common sense to literal meaning????
go pick a fight with someone who actually gives a fuck you worthless cretin.
NiGhtMarEs0nWax 2 years ago
@TheSkepticalArtist
Understanding comes from knowledge, reality is shaped our by knowledge. Reality varies from person to person.
Nogard229 2 years ago
Reality is not subjective in the sense you're implying. It happens to be subjective in relativity though, but that's irrelevant
Richy15251 2 years ago
@Richy15251
Knowledge is not subjective, you either have more or little, neither is bad, they help in projecting your reality, which is limited to your knowledge. Limited by definition carries a bad connotation, but even the option of "more" is limited. I believe you meant to say beliefs are subjective?
Nogard229 2 years ago
yes, but reality is not defined by knowledge, reality is an objective existence independant of us
Richy15251 2 years ago 2
your perception of reality is subjective
Richy15251 2 years ago 2
duh
3LARI 2 years ago
sorry man i just read the rest of the conversation there. i thought you were just posting that statement randomly. yeah we have no idea what reality is but it is what it is regardless of our perceptions. what we call reality is a lot different to what, say a bat, calls reality. They see the world through sound where we perceive light. its a strange world alright. have you read the doors of perception by aldous huxley?
3LARI 2 years ago
@Richy15251
I never equated knowledge with reality, I merely stated that knowledge shapes our reality.
Nogard229 2 years ago
@Nogard229 Reality's constraints are defined by scope during the formative period when an infant. It is reactionary stimulus(knowledge) that is used to measure the scope of our reality. It is as the brain casts a net into the world at this time in our life that measures how we can understand reality. The more complex the formative period, the greater the net that can be cast, Aspergers syndrome is a direct result of over complexity which gives us the greatest modern minds, realities.
javonoUTube 2 years ago
Exactly. Reality is an illusion and the shape of it depends on how we entertain it.
Here is a nice video about it:
watch?v=flKHs2p8gfo
elboertjie 2 years ago
@elboertjie
That's an interesting concept, l'll watch the video, but you may have illusions within a reality but reality is truth, or the actual state of the matter, it's not changeable.
Nogard229 2 years ago
True, truth is not changeable and thus it is real, or reality. Anything that is mutable or changeable is illusion.
Matter is energy and energy vibrates at frequencies and frequencies can change. Thus, matter is an illusion.
elboertjie 2 years ago
@elboertjie
Yes, but who's to say that's not allowed? Just because it changes doesn't mean it's an illusion, or it's not a truth. The truth may be that matter can change frequencies. But I understand your idea, I'm currently watching the video.
Nogard229 2 years ago
@Nogard229
Everything is moving, everything fluctuate. To say that truth is a constant is to say that everything is a lie :) Im with you on this one, but i think that everything is true, and that only people can lie :D
LamaPaj 2 years ago
@LamaPaj
Hmmm, you don't seem to understand the bigger picture. Truth is constant, whether the truth is known or unknown, it cannot be changed it is absolute. 1+1 = 2, that is true, you can't say 1+2 = 2. There is only one truth. Reality is truth, and reality is shaped by our knowledge, you make decisions based on your knowledge, your life is limited to your knowledge, it is also shaped by it.
Nogard229 2 years ago
@Nogard229
If reality is truth, and reality is shaped by our knowledge, that means that truth is shaped by our knowledge. And as every person has a different knowledge of things, that means that what is truth differs from person to person (truth is in the eye of the beholder, so to say.) That means that truth is something that man has created to rationalize the universe, As "true truth" is an absolute (which should be impossible in this universe if the quantum theory is correct.)
LamaPaj 2 years ago
@LamaPaj
You are somewhat correct, but remember that knowledge does not physically or intrinsically change. The amount, and uniqueness changes, so by change, I mean the amount known and unknown, imagine a wall, which is reality, now imagine white splats of paint at random locations, the white paint is knowledge, and the locations vary from person to person similar to knowledge, but the wall is constant.
Nogard229 2 years ago
But why does the wall have to be constant?
LamaPaj 2 years ago
@LamaPaj
Unless constants are illusions which is quite possible, but I based this from experience, that 1+1 will always equal 2, there can only be one truth, so it remains constant. It seems to be the most rational option with my current knowledge. Although it is possible for it to be an illusion, I cannot see the whole "wall" I just see bits and pieces, which can cause illusions.
Nogard229 2 years ago
And also, 1+1=2 does in no way constitute a truth. 1+1 is a human concept. Just as truth is. if you look out into the universe, you will find no truth or lies, and no 1+1=2.
LamaPaj 2 years ago
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Nogard229 2 years ago
@LamaPaj
I said I'm choosing the most rational option with my current knowledge, If I choose nothing then I'll stay in a state of regress. With my current knowledge, only one truth exist. You can't say my car is completely red, then say the same car is completely blue, there's only one truth. Similar to the mathematical version, 1+1 = 2, you can't say 1+1=2 and 1+2= 2, it's not possible, only one can be true. Obviously this is what I believe, you can come to your own conclusion.
Nogard229 2 years ago
@LamaPaj If truth is reality, and reality is shaped by our knowledge and everyone has different knowledge, wouldn't that make it subjective?
modmastermind111 2 years ago
Lol i wrote a damn rant about that before i saw this :p silly me :D
LamaPaj 2 years ago
@LamaPaj a lie is a fact in the wrong context hahaha
fluibertje 2 years ago
@fluibertje
nice one :D
LamaPaj 2 years ago
I reject your premise
jwd2003 2 years ago
That's irrelevant.
elboertjie 2 years ago
Why do Art and Science have to be two non overlapping things? Thats seems a bit silly :\ . Saying the human understanding and appreciation of beauty, expression and creation cannot or should not overlap with knowledge may hold up if you are purely talking about scientific truth, but i think it is very important to remember that those who conduct rigirous scientific studies to surpass human shortcomings to understand the secrets of the universe are *still* human, (and so is the public :P)
Tarciryan2 2 years ago
@defect530 you are ridiculous, get cremated.
morganseathomson 2 years ago
Disrespect?
She's dead. There is nothing left of what was "her" at all. Better than being planted int he ground to rot and be forgot...
johnycannuk 2 years ago 4
If they made known they wanted to donate their body to science or art when they die how is that disrespect?
I don't need my body when I die anyway. Why not let someone do something more useful with it rather than just rotting in the ground or put in a urn on a shelf.
TheSkepticalArtist 2 years ago 5
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defect530 2 years ago
I hope my body goes to something more educational. :P Creep.
GnosticDjinn 2 years ago
You give us your word then that you will donate your body then?
MorganStack 2 years ago
Very cool, I would love to see a gallery of his work
saxonde68 2 years ago 2
personal fav quotes: "i use dead bodies" "i go beyond the surface" and "i dream in xray"
xray video!!!!??? that was the most interesting thing and he didnt say anything about it!!
sunatron 2 years ago 2
trippy 8D
chillmeister509 2 years ago
Very cool!
meghanntrimble 2 years ago
Thanks
prov223 2 years ago
Awesome Video!!!
UltimateInvestor 2 years ago