@holytodsloan They probably couldn't find a Right winged war mongering Zionist that felt like lying that day? I am sure the women and children that were in the schools and hospitals that were bombed were forced there and not actually there for medical treatment or for learning...That wouldn't make any sense? I am sure Hamas made civilians stand right under the white phosphorus shells too? Oh, don't forget the 10's of thousands of chickens that Hamas used as shields? You people are shameless!!
The mere suggestion that Israel would carry out a credible investigation of it's military is like asking them to investigate whether the 6th Israeli Prime Minister (Menachem Begin) was a terrorist. Of course not...The bombing of the King David Hotel was a legitimate target, even if 91 civilians were killed, including 16 Jews! You have a better chance of being bitten by a shark in your local swimming pool, than to hear a Zionist extremist tell the truth.
" During operation cast lead the Israeli Defense Forces did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare.
"Hamas, like Hezbollah are expert at driving the media aganda . Both will always have people ready to give interviews condemning Israeli forces for war crimes.
They are adept at staging and extorting incidents."
UK Col. Richard Kemp
CHECK OUT ON YT: Goldstone Gaza Report: Col. Richard Kemp Testifies at U.N. Emergency Session
@IRightYouWrong Nor do they mention any of Hamas crimes, their charter, their deliberately sacrificing their own people, their lack of cooperation. No mention of how many rockets were launched against Israel, no mention of how long people had to spend in bomb shelters, no mention of the physiological damage on children,no mention of the extraordinary efforts made by Israel through pamphlets, phone calls to avoid civilian casualties...
Goldstone is out. The UNHRC is out. The UN is on its way out too. Very soon. Four letter comments show the stupidity of those who have swallowed Goldstone´s report. He will not be well received in Israel and he will probably forbidden to do so, for his own safety so to say!
@Yitzhakhazak israel is about as democratis as north korea. stop spreading this bullshit hatredfed monkey.- only your zionist friends will clap to your crap
this is fuckisrael and a 'credible' investigation? i don't believe even brainwashed zionists buy that- they're happy because they feel untouchable sucking Palestinian blood
with the zionist as friend..who needs enemy anymore? the zionist made d USS liberty massacre, d zionist are d bankers been bailed (rothchild), d zionist controlled d congress (largest donors), d zionist made US to go wars for them (iraq, iran etc) and so on so forth..as long as d zionist in d US government..Americans will only be made their sheeps.
Israel soldiers have described the Gaza 'war' (it was no war, but a massacre) like burning ants with a magnifying class!!!! that's their own words..along with insane, insane, insane..goldstone described it as a 'terroristic' attack..they wanted to terrorise the ppl..did he retract that back??
oh please, Israel does not do wish to target civilians. the reason Israel probably doesnt cooperate with the UN is because the UN has countless times proved to be anti-Israel. Goldstone said that himself that the UN is biased against Israel.
@checkthetruth1 dude, isaeli soliers themselves have admitted they used 'insane' levels of firepower..& tht they didnt really encounter any enemy in Gaza..it wasn't a war..it was just a massacre..also if they didnt target civilians why did they hit the UN bases whom they KNEW the coordinates of..israel has the most technoligically advanced army in the world! ofcourse it wasn't accidental..it was a campaign of terror..Golstone is a Zionist..& when squeezed had to dance to the zionist tune
when he was against israel, the fact that he's jewish was used against israel. now that he claims that he didnt have the right information, he's a zionist.
the reality is that Hamas have been intentionally targeting civilians, whether by firing rockets or via suicide bombers. israel, on the other hand, did not have such a policy.
@wildlettuce riiight..he had the right information..the only reason he didnt have more is because israel refused to collaborate with him in any why..israel doesn't believe in independent investigations you see..they conduct their own private ones where everyone is innocent..name me how many soldiers have been convicted fo all the decades of crimes against pal's.
Hamas's resistance is purely symbolic..they have homemade rockets that cost about 10 bucks while Israel uses Jeircho 3's @ 1.5M EACH
@wildlettuce well how many hve they killed..you still haven't answered that question..exactly howbig is this threat..this is ofcourse ignoring the fact that isael was the one that broke the ceasefire on nov 4ththis is admitted in israeli media..so it wasn't because of harmless rockets..it wasbecauseelectionswerecoming up & livni wanted to show she can shed as much blood as the next zionist war criminal..
@bahriboy if you think this is about body counts, you're even more stupid than you appear to be. Hamas are challenging a sovereign state, and they got just what they asked for.
Stalin had a name for people like you - Useful Idiots.
@wildlettuce haha, what a hypocrite, so you wnt to pull out 10M as a figure & compare that with 300'000..& then with Hamas you say 'it isn't about body counts'!
well with your first point the 300'000 happened in ONE DAY..not 60 years...& where the hell did you get 10M from..isaeli hasbara website..but let's believe it for now anyway..that means 166'000 a year over how many muslim countries are there..40 or so..with over 1.5 billion ppl..nice try you hypocrite..
what you're suggesting is that its ok for them to fire rockets at israel because israel knows how to defend its citizens and because the hamas are too stupid to aim properly.
from my perspective, just because i can defend myself it doesnt mean i'm going to allow you to continue attacking. there are consequences to attacking israel, and the hamas will pay them.
@bahriboy This isn't relevant. You can't judge this by the result, but by the intentions. If Hamas had it its way, millions of Israelis would have been killed. They are incompetent, and Israelis have good shelters, so they can't make it. This being said, terrorism is a state of mind, and although those terrorists do not succeed in their ambitions, this situation is unacceptable. There's no country in the world that would tolerate what Israel did.
@ASandEVS of course it's very relavent when you are killing thousands of people because of non-existential threat...& under international law an oppressed & occupied ppl i.e. the palestineans here have the right to defend themselves..even with this their resistance is negligable & futile..& yet Israel still starves, kidnaps, shells, bombs them every single day!!!
@ASandEVS recently i've heard ppl saying that pro-palestineans should understand the fear of being wiped out that israel has..now i personally think this is a load of horse shit..its called the 'holocaust industry'...school trips to nazi concentration camps, watching gruesome video's..all this makes israeli's in a state where ANYTHING that is proposed for 'security of israel' is supported without question..it is a disgrace to those jews who suffered to use their memory for propaganda like this
How many Israelis have been arrested for firing at civilians? None! Only one Israeli terrorist has been arrested and imprisoned for credit card theft!
@wildlettuce how many ppl has hamas killed in last 2-5-8 years..Hmas is absolutely NO threat to israel..& israel knows it..but Israel NEEDS hamas so it can impose brutal collective punishment on 1.5M ppl because they are 'non jews', & so leaders can win votes in elections by spilling as much bloo das possible..& test the newest weapons to well at at international weapons shows..you see while starving & terrorising innocent covilians..israel profits from this econimically, demographically, &
@wildlettuce politically...it loves & breathers war & murder..& cant wait to go into the next war..which it's laying the ground for now..
The one claim goldstone retracted was policy of targeting civilians..can you please tell that to the ppl at those UN weapons shelters..why were they hit when israel had the coordinates & the most advanced military in the world??
@wildlettuce even using the term war here really is propaganda..were the Nazi's at war with the jews in germany..NO..it was pure persecution for years & then turned to genocide..the palestineans have been persecuted for over 70 years..a war is between two actual forces..what force do the palestineans have exactly?? what damage have they actually done???? fuck all..& aint it funny how in last 8 years or so when israeli casualties are practically ZERO..israel has only escalated violence
@bahriboy why do you think we dont die god is with us its all written in the bible all this things hapaning lately it written that evreyone will bring war upon israel and president gog will cover the sky with his plains and will conquer israel but than god will be reveald to all and anyone who belived in god followed his way and been jewish will live and all the deads will become alive and if you think im crazy check the bible its all writen and prophtized percfectly and gog is probably ahmdinaj
@wildlettuce or what about the Samouni family..who as you know IDF soldies told them to gather in a specific house where they'd be safe..& then it was bombed & 21 membes of the family died..that is fucking barbaric..the IDF soldiers THEMSELVES have described the firepower used as insane..did Goldstone retract use of white phosphorus which is WAR CRIME..when used in civilian areas..or did he say isael weren't stopping ambulances from getting through..or that 400 children weren't killed..
@wildlettuce err..because israel has consistanly been shelling Gaza for over 3 weeks..killing over 21 people including 6 today...i still condemn the bus attack but it injured 2..didnt kill anyone..& lets not forget 1.5 million ppl in Gaza are in a massive open air prison..they are being collectively starved for voting for the wrong party..& mainly because they are 'not jews'
@wildlettuce if any country was being starved from things like coumen to cement to childrens toys to school books for over 4 years..that in itself is a form of warfare..which is more lethal than any of those impotent homemade rockets..let alone that fact that when it feels like it Israel just kills 1500 people & injures thousands more as it sees fit..& systematically destroys all civilian infrastructure like food factories, UN shelters, etc..what the hell would you expect them to do
@bahriboy if any country was under constant attack as israel is, they would wipe their opponent off the face of the earth.
but israel is held under a different standard, a special standard just for israel. the kind of standard that doesnt allow it to defend itself because its not allowed to. its what us normal people call hypocrisy.
maybe you expect israeli citizens to start making their own home-made rockets and fire them on gaza?
@wildlettuce wow your so right man palastinian are peice of shit i just saw a youtube vid of them setting of their puppy on fire the poor loyal animal came back to them showing their loyalty and they fucking set him again on fire if they do this to a poor creature imagane what they would do to israel given trained army and air force
@checkthetruth1 you really should live up to your name & get a conscience rather than try & cover up for criminals..Israel doesn't need your like defending it..but it employs you to troll here because it's 'scared'..when really israel has had wars that IT started since it's existance, yum kippur, 6 day war, lebanon 06, cast lead etc..just like it's again laying the FALSE pretext for another war now..its how the zionist war machine works..any surprise when hamas & fatah wanted to start talking..
@checkthetruth1 ..(cont) which would mean palestinean unity there was a bombing in jeusalem..US & Israel are run by the same ppl which is why they operate the same..(9-11..hello) for war on terror..pearl harbour = dropping fucking TWO NUCLEAR BOMB'S on japan..even head of 'operation northwoods'...please stop defending zionism bro..it doesn't need you..it will get away with it anyway..do something meaningful with your valuable life, help ppl who actually need your help..peace
@checkthetruth1 why did they hit the UN centre's! they hve the most advanced military in the world..& they know the coordinates of those UN centre's..that is obvious warcimes to me.
wht about just the eg of Smouni family..the IDF told them to gather in one house, & then bombed that house killling 21...but ofcourse you're gonna say it was either 'accidental' or they were' terrorists'.
It's dangerous to challenge powerful states, even highly educated men like Goldstone can crack. But the key point here is, as the commentators here show, that he hasn't actually retracted the overall report itself.
Thats the thing with Israel they ask for everything and gives nothing.They dont respect any laws countries borders or human rights they are highly racist and dont recognize Palestinine right to exist but they want their borders and rights of existance to be sacro saint they use all laws when it suit them and always cry about racism but we all know what they think of us the ``Goyim`` they try to dehumanize the muslims but they are no better
Thats funny how Israel only use UN when it suit them, they always say that the creation of Israel was supported by the UN but when UN tell them to stop stealing and occupying land they say UN dont know anything and when they make a report they dont regognize it and dont want anything to do with it until they can destroy it... Why would they want it to be retracted if they dont recognize it anyways ? what a bunch of hypocrits as usual
Intentional or not, there was zero regard paid to civilian deaths. They shot women waving white flags - accidental? They have continued shooting children collecting rubble in Gaza - accidental? They fired phosphorous bombs at schools / UN facilities. They kill unarmed fishermen. IDF rabbi's encourage it. IDF value one soldiers life more than 100 goyim.
dropping leaflets and calling thousands of mobile phone to warn them about operations in their area is what you consider 'zero regard paid to civilian deaths'?
does hamas give israeli civilians a warning before sending suicide bombers or firing rockets?
One should wonder what kind of pressures Judge Goldstone has been subjected to. Was he threatened? Was he blackmailed? Was he bribed? Was he manipulated? Anyways, no matter how futile what he has retracted from his report, it is enough for the israeli propaganda machine to exploit that to new heights, and for Israhell to wash its hands from all the crimes it has been and is perpetrating against the Palestinians !
No, My. Howrowitz, it's not a tiny bit of the report, but it's main finding. The Goldstone report accused Israel of deliberately targeting civilians in Gaza. Now he says he got it wrong. One can learn a few things from this ordeal. To begin with, Israel was right not to cooperate with this 'fact-finding' mission. The conclusions were drafted by some of its members ahead of time, and there was no chance there will be an impartial discussion there.
@ASandEVS Of course Israel attacks civilians its been doing it for 5 decades. Millions of people saw it all on their TV screens watching people being incinerated with white phosphorous because they are not Jewish. You have to be an idiot not to realize that or else be an evil brainwashed Zionazi like yourself!
@petersz98 Israel is not attacking civilians, but fighting terrorists who deliberately situate themselves within civilian populations. Try to think, with the limited number of remaining of brain cells you have up there, what would happen if the Israeli army, one of the best armies in the world, would decide it attacks Palestinian civilians. I saw mickey mouse on my TV, you like watching Pallywood, whatever makes you happy. PS. Your mother's a nazi.
What infuriates Zionists is not that Goldstone wrote a report outing Israel as a criminal state that deliberately targets civilians which is all perfectly true of course but that he is a Jew and a Zionist and he had the balls to tell the truth! If he had been a goyim well that would have been expected but for a member of the tribe to wash dirty linen in public is unforgiveable! Goldstone thought he was doing the Zionists and Jews a service now he's saying "Please forgive me". LOL!
@petersz98 Well, without respecting most of your disgusting comment with an answer, I would say that the main thing is that the Goldstone Report is not perfectly true, not even remotely.
Name me one Israeli king? Name me one Israeli Prime Minister before 1948? Is there any evidence of Israeli rule before 1948? Is there any evidence of an existence of an Israeli people before 1948? LOL!
If Palestinians are "immigrants" from all over the world what the hell are Israelis other than immigrants that have come from all over the world! LOL What a dumbass you are!
@petersz98 israeli kings prior to 1948 - Saul, Solomon, David (ever head of David and Goliath?).. there are many more.
Evidence of Israel's existence prior to 1948 - the cities Jericho, Jerusalem, Schem (nablus), Nazareth.. an enormous amount of archeological findings, and the two largest monotheistic religions (christianity and islam) which derive from judaism.
palestine never existed, not as a state, country, nation, culture or anything prior to 1964.
They are not Israeli moron! Israeli nationality only came into existence in 1948. Khazar Jews are not descendents of Abraham, nor are Berber(Sephardic) Jews. Religion is not a nationality idiot!
@petersz98 Bullshit. Israel is a synonym. Children of Israel later became Israelites and Judeans, and were later known as Jews. The nation exists consecutively since the bronze period, in Israel and out of it due to exile. There are artifacts, books, correspondence, the works. How about directing me to a single evidence there was a Palestinian collective prior to the 20th century?
why wasn't a palestininian or someone from an islamic background invited to participate in this discussion?
i'll preface any comments by saying i read both the NYT and Guardian articles. it was all about PR and israel's reputation. not one person expressed regret for loss of life in cast lead.
in view of those who died or were maimed by white phosphorous while seeking refuge in UN compounds, this debate has no legitimacy.
@holytodsloan They probably couldn't find a Right winged war mongering Zionist that felt like lying that day? I am sure the women and children that were in the schools and hospitals that were bombed were forced there and not actually there for medical treatment or for learning...That wouldn't make any sense? I am sure Hamas made civilians stand right under the white phosphorus shells too? Oh, don't forget the 10's of thousands of chickens that Hamas used as shields? You people are shameless!!
steute2011 6 months ago
The mere suggestion that Israel would carry out a credible investigation of it's military is like asking them to investigate whether the 6th Israeli Prime Minister (Menachem Begin) was a terrorist. Of course not...The bombing of the King David Hotel was a legitimate target, even if 91 civilians were killed, including 16 Jews! You have a better chance of being bitten by a shark in your local swimming pool, than to hear a Zionist extremist tell the truth.
steute2011 6 months ago
" During operation cast lead the Israeli Defense Forces did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare.
"Hamas, like Hezbollah are expert at driving the media aganda . Both will always have people ready to give interviews condemning Israeli forces for war crimes.
They are adept at staging and extorting incidents."
UK Col. Richard Kemp
CHECK OUT ON YT: Goldstone Gaza Report: Col. Richard Kemp Testifies at U.N. Emergency Session
theresmoretoit1 10 months ago
@IRightYouWrong Nor do they mention any of Hamas crimes, their charter, their deliberately sacrificing their own people, their lack of cooperation. No mention of how many rockets were launched against Israel, no mention of how long people had to spend in bomb shelters, no mention of the physiological damage on children,no mention of the extraordinary efforts made by Israel through pamphlets, phone calls to avoid civilian casualties...
theresmoretoit1 10 months ago
This is the Israeli reaction:
Goldstone is out. The UNHRC is out. The UN is on its way out too. Very soon. Four letter comments show the stupidity of those who have swallowed Goldstone´s report. He will not be well received in Israel and he will probably forbidden to do so, for his own safety so to say!
Yitzhakhazak 11 months ago
@Yitzhakhazak keep on lfeeding delusion. good your world's becoming tighter and tighter
andyOsalek 11 months ago
@Yitzhakhazak israel is about as democratis as north korea. stop spreading this bullshit hatredfed monkey.- only your zionist friends will clap to your crap
andyOsalek 11 months ago
this is fuckisrael and a 'credible' investigation? i don't believe even brainwashed zionists buy that- they're happy because they feel untouchable sucking Palestinian blood
andyOsalek 11 months ago
@andyOsalek
If "fuck" is the only word you know then you will be "fucked" yourself.
Yitzhakhazak 11 months ago
this is fucking disgusting
andyOsalek 11 months ago
with the zionist as friend..who needs enemy anymore? the zionist made d USS liberty massacre, d zionist are d bankers been bailed (rothchild), d zionist controlled d congress (largest donors), d zionist made US to go wars for them (iraq, iran etc) and so on so forth..as long as d zionist in d US government..Americans will only be made their sheeps.
javabeserk 11 months ago
Israel soldiers have described the Gaza 'war' (it was no war, but a massacre) like burning ants with a magnifying class!!!! that's their own words..along with insane, insane, insane..goldstone described it as a 'terroristic' attack..they wanted to terrorise the ppl..did he retract that back??
bahriboy 11 months ago
oh please, Israel does not do wish to target civilians. the reason Israel probably doesnt cooperate with the UN is because the UN has countless times proved to be anti-Israel. Goldstone said that himself that the UN is biased against Israel.
checkthetruth1 11 months ago
@checkthetruth1 dude, isaeli soliers themselves have admitted they used 'insane' levels of firepower..& tht they didnt really encounter any enemy in Gaza..it wasn't a war..it was just a massacre..also if they didnt target civilians why did they hit the UN bases whom they KNEW the coordinates of..israel has the most technoligically advanced army in the world! ofcourse it wasn't accidental..it was a campaign of terror..Golstone is a Zionist..& when squeezed had to dance to the zionist tune
bahriboy 11 months ago
@bahriboy pretty convenient..
when he was against israel, the fact that he's jewish was used against israel. now that he claims that he didnt have the right information, he's a zionist.
the reality is that Hamas have been intentionally targeting civilians, whether by firing rockets or via suicide bombers. israel, on the other hand, did not have such a policy.
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@wildlettuce riiight..he had the right information..the only reason he didnt have more is because israel refused to collaborate with him in any why..israel doesn't believe in independent investigations you see..they conduct their own private ones where everyone is innocent..name me how many soldiers have been convicted fo all the decades of crimes against pal's.
Hamas's resistance is purely symbolic..they have homemade rockets that cost about 10 bucks while Israel uses Jeircho 3's @ 1.5M EACH
bahriboy 11 months ago
@bahriboy maybe i should start targeting your house with these 'homemade rockets' and we'll see how much you like it.
i'll call it symbolic, and you can go on with your life, right?
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@wildlettuce well how many hve they killed..you still haven't answered that question..exactly howbig is this threat..this is ofcourse ignoring the fact that isael was the one that broke the ceasefire on nov 4ththis is admitted in israeli media..so it wasn't because of harmless rockets..it wasbecauseelectionswerecoming up & livni wanted to show she can shed as much blood as the next zionist war criminal..
bahriboy 11 months ago
@bahriboy if you think this is about body counts, you're even more stupid than you appear to be. Hamas are challenging a sovereign state, and they got just what they asked for.
Stalin had a name for people like you - Useful Idiots.
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@wildlettuce haha, what a hypocrite, so you wnt to pull out 10M as a figure & compare that with 300'000..& then with Hamas you say 'it isn't about body counts'!
well with your first point the 300'000 happened in ONE DAY..not 60 years...& where the hell did you get 10M from..isaeli hasbara website..but let's believe it for now anyway..that means 166'000 a year over how many muslim countries are there..40 or so..with over 1.5 billion ppl..nice try you hypocrite..
bahriboy 11 months ago
@wildlettuce so tell me..how many has Hamas killed???
bahriboy 11 months ago
@bahriboy it is completely irrelivant.
what you're suggesting is that its ok for them to fire rockets at israel because israel knows how to defend its citizens and because the hamas are too stupid to aim properly.
from my perspective, just because i can defend myself it doesnt mean i'm going to allow you to continue attacking. there are consequences to attacking israel, and the hamas will pay them.
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@bahriboy This isn't relevant. You can't judge this by the result, but by the intentions. If Hamas had it its way, millions of Israelis would have been killed. They are incompetent, and Israelis have good shelters, so they can't make it. This being said, terrorism is a state of mind, and although those terrorists do not succeed in their ambitions, this situation is unacceptable. There's no country in the world that would tolerate what Israel did.
ASandEVS 11 months ago
@ASandEVS of course it's very relavent when you are killing thousands of people because of non-existential threat...& under international law an oppressed & occupied ppl i.e. the palestineans here have the right to defend themselves..even with this their resistance is negligable & futile..& yet Israel still starves, kidnaps, shells, bombs them every single day!!!
bahriboy 11 months ago
@ASandEVS recently i've heard ppl saying that pro-palestineans should understand the fear of being wiped out that israel has..now i personally think this is a load of horse shit..its called the 'holocaust industry'...school trips to nazi concentration camps, watching gruesome video's..all this makes israeli's in a state where ANYTHING that is proposed for 'security of israel' is supported without question..it is a disgrace to those jews who suffered to use their memory for propaganda like this
bahriboy 11 months ago
@bahriboy
did hamas investigate anything? no.
how many arabs were convicted for firing rockets at civilian targets? none.
but you have no criticism for that side, do you mr. bigot?
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@wildlettuce
How many Israelis have been arrested for firing at civilians? None! Only one Israeli terrorist has been arrested and imprisoned for credit card theft!
petersz98 11 months ago
@petersz98 because they don't. Hamas terrorists are using civilian population as human shield. They are the ones violating human rights laws.
ASandEVS 11 months ago
@wildlettuce how many ppl has hamas killed in last 2-5-8 years..Hmas is absolutely NO threat to israel..& israel knows it..but Israel NEEDS hamas so it can impose brutal collective punishment on 1.5M ppl because they are 'non jews', & so leaders can win votes in elections by spilling as much bloo das possible..& test the newest weapons to well at at international weapons shows..you see while starving & terrorising innocent covilians..israel profits from this econimically, demographically, &
bahriboy 11 months ago
@wildlettuce politically...it loves & breathers war & murder..& cant wait to go into the next war..which it's laying the ground for now..
The one claim goldstone retracted was policy of targeting civilians..can you please tell that to the ppl at those UN weapons shelters..why were they hit when israel had the coordinates & the most advanced military in the world??
bahriboy 11 months ago
@bahriboy this is what you call a war.
if the people of gaza didnt want to be involved in a war, they could have prevented their government from firing rockets at israel.
if you teased a lion, would you be surprised if it bit your head off?
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@wildlettuce even using the term war here really is propaganda..were the Nazi's at war with the jews in germany..NO..it was pure persecution for years & then turned to genocide..the palestineans have been persecuted for over 70 years..a war is between two actual forces..what force do the palestineans have exactly?? what damage have they actually done???? fuck all..& aint it funny how in last 8 years or so when israeli casualties are practically ZERO..israel has only escalated violence
bahriboy 11 months ago
@bahriboy you're just a bigot buddy.
so its ok for the citizens of israel to live under a barrage of missiles for 8 years?
by your logic, israel shouldnt retaliate because it has better hospitals and shelters for its citizens (and thus less dead)?
you're mental buddy. if someone stabs you with a knife once a week but doesnt kill you i guess he should be allowed to do that, right? fuck off.
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@bahriboy why do you think we dont die god is with us its all written in the bible all this things hapaning lately it written that evreyone will bring war upon israel and president gog will cover the sky with his plains and will conquer israel but than god will be reveald to all and anyone who belived in god followed his way and been jewish will live and all the deads will become alive and if you think im crazy check the bible its all writen and prophtized percfectly and gog is probably ahmdinaj
dor7123 11 months ago
@wildlettuce or what about the Samouni family..who as you know IDF soldies told them to gather in a specific house where they'd be safe..& then it was bombed & 21 membes of the family died..that is fucking barbaric..the IDF soldiers THEMSELVES have described the firepower used as insane..did Goldstone retract use of white phosphorus which is WAR CRIME..when used in civilian areas..or did he say isael weren't stopping ambulances from getting through..or that 400 children weren't killed..
bahriboy 11 months ago
@bahriboy why did hamas fire an ANTI-TANK missile at a SCHOOL BUS yesterday?
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@wildlettuce err..because israel has consistanly been shelling Gaza for over 3 weeks..killing over 21 people including 6 today...i still condemn the bus attack but it injured 2..didnt kill anyone..& lets not forget 1.5 million ppl in Gaza are in a massive open air prison..they are being collectively starved for voting for the wrong party..& mainly because they are 'not jews'
bahriboy 11 months ago
@wildlettuce if any country was being starved from things like coumen to cement to childrens toys to school books for over 4 years..that in itself is a form of warfare..which is more lethal than any of those impotent homemade rockets..let alone that fact that when it feels like it Israel just kills 1500 people & injures thousands more as it sees fit..& systematically destroys all civilian infrastructure like food factories, UN shelters, etc..what the hell would you expect them to do
bahriboy 11 months ago
@bahriboy what would you expect them to do? you'd expect them to want to live in peace!
but they dont want that, they'd rather have war.. and i say - let them have it, and let them have it hard.
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@bahriboy if any country was under constant attack as israel is, they would wipe their opponent off the face of the earth.
but israel is held under a different standard, a special standard just for israel. the kind of standard that doesnt allow it to defend itself because its not allowed to. its what us normal people call hypocrisy.
maybe you expect israeli citizens to start making their own home-made rockets and fire them on gaza?
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@wildlettuce wow your so right man palastinian are peice of shit i just saw a youtube vid of them setting of their puppy on fire the poor loyal animal came back to them showing their loyalty and they fucking set him again on fire if they do this to a poor creature imagane what they would do to israel given trained army and air force
dor7123 11 months ago
@checkthetruth1 you really should live up to your name & get a conscience rather than try & cover up for criminals..Israel doesn't need your like defending it..but it employs you to troll here because it's 'scared'..when really israel has had wars that IT started since it's existance, yum kippur, 6 day war, lebanon 06, cast lead etc..just like it's again laying the FALSE pretext for another war now..its how the zionist war machine works..any surprise when hamas & fatah wanted to start talking..
bahriboy 11 months ago
@checkthetruth1 ..(cont) which would mean palestinean unity there was a bombing in jeusalem..US & Israel are run by the same ppl which is why they operate the same..(9-11..hello) for war on terror..pearl harbour = dropping fucking TWO NUCLEAR BOMB'S on japan..even head of 'operation northwoods'...please stop defending zionism bro..it doesn't need you..it will get away with it anyway..do something meaningful with your valuable life, help ppl who actually need your help..peace
bahriboy 11 months ago
@bahriboy you still going with your body counts?
how many muslims were killed by other muslims in the middle east over the last 60 years? over 10,000,000.
how many japanese died in hiroshima? around 300,000.
is the war still going on between US and Japan? no
are muslims still killing each other? yes.
can you see the difference, mr bigot?
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@checkthetruth1 why did they hit the UN centre's! they hve the most advanced military in the world..& they know the coordinates of those UN centre's..that is obvious warcimes to me.
wht about just the eg of Smouni family..the IDF told them to gather in one house, & then bombed that house killling 21...but ofcourse you're gonna say it was either 'accidental' or they were' terrorists'.
bahriboy 11 months ago
It's dangerous to challenge powerful states, even highly educated men like Goldstone can crack. But the key point here is, as the commentators here show, that he hasn't actually retracted the overall report itself.
AndrewMann552 11 months ago
Shit, this world is ruled by f***en gangsters
kowalalambo 11 months ago
Goldstone the useful idiot exposes himself. He should finish the job himself by putting a gun to his head and pulling the trigger.
Inukshuk67 11 months ago
Thats the thing with Israel they ask for everything and gives nothing.They dont respect any laws countries borders or human rights they are highly racist and dont recognize Palestinine right to exist but they want their borders and rights of existance to be sacro saint they use all laws when it suit them and always cry about racism but we all know what they think of us the ``Goyim`` they try to dehumanize the muslims but they are no better
Mankindfails 11 months ago
Thats funny how Israel only use UN when it suit them, they always say that the creation of Israel was supported by the UN but when UN tell them to stop stealing and occupying land they say UN dont know anything and when they make a report they dont regognize it and dont want anything to do with it until they can destroy it... Why would they want it to be retracted if they dont recognize it anyways ? what a bunch of hypocrits as usual
Mankindfails 11 months ago
Wow! I heard the news on Canadian msm here and it was...let's say different. lol... I was like WTH? :-/ hehe! Thank God for these 2!
Lizzy reminds me of a cute female version of John Lennon. I like her. :-)
MustacheVerra 11 months ago
Intentional or not, there was zero regard paid to civilian deaths. They shot women waving white flags - accidental? They have continued shooting children collecting rubble in Gaza - accidental? They fired phosphorous bombs at schools / UN facilities. They kill unarmed fishermen. IDF rabbi's encourage it. IDF value one soldiers life more than 100 goyim.
watch?v=qMGuYjt6CP8
Dubwise78 11 months ago
@Dubwise78
dropping leaflets and calling thousands of mobile phone to warn them about operations in their area is what you consider 'zero regard paid to civilian deaths'?
does hamas give israeli civilians a warning before sending suicide bombers or firing rockets?
you are just another lame bigot.
wildlettuce 11 months ago
I didnt know the Beastie Boys were experts on the Israel/Palestinian conflict. Cool guys!
starkweather444 11 months ago
One should wonder what kind of pressures Judge Goldstone has been subjected to. Was he threatened? Was he blackmailed? Was he bribed? Was he manipulated? Anyways, no matter how futile what he has retracted from his report, it is enough for the israeli propaganda machine to exploit that to new heights, and for Israhell to wash its hands from all the crimes it has been and is perpetrating against the Palestinians !
MoLahBel 11 months ago
No, My. Howrowitz, it's not a tiny bit of the report, but it's main finding. The Goldstone report accused Israel of deliberately targeting civilians in Gaza. Now he says he got it wrong. One can learn a few things from this ordeal. To begin with, Israel was right not to cooperate with this 'fact-finding' mission. The conclusions were drafted by some of its members ahead of time, and there was no chance there will be an impartial discussion there.
ASandEVS 11 months ago
@ASandEVS Of course Israel attacks civilians its been doing it for 5 decades. Millions of people saw it all on their TV screens watching people being incinerated with white phosphorous because they are not Jewish. You have to be an idiot not to realize that or else be an evil brainwashed Zionazi like yourself!
petersz98 11 months ago
@petersz98 Israel is not attacking civilians, but fighting terrorists who deliberately situate themselves within civilian populations. Try to think, with the limited number of remaining of brain cells you have up there, what would happen if the Israeli army, one of the best armies in the world, would decide it attacks Palestinian civilians. I saw mickey mouse on my TV, you like watching Pallywood, whatever makes you happy. PS. Your mother's a nazi.
ASandEVS 11 months ago
@ASandEVS
What infuriates Zionists is not that Goldstone wrote a report outing Israel as a criminal state that deliberately targets civilians which is all perfectly true of course but that he is a Jew and a Zionist and he had the balls to tell the truth! If he had been a goyim well that would have been expected but for a member of the tribe to wash dirty linen in public is unforgiveable! Goldstone thought he was doing the Zionists and Jews a service now he's saying "Please forgive me". LOL!
petersz98 11 months ago
@petersz98 Well, without respecting most of your disgusting comment with an answer, I would say that the main thing is that the Goldstone Report is not perfectly true, not even remotely.
ASandEVS 11 months ago
Laughing when Iraqi people kill each other is NOT Anti-Semitism.
rachelgolem 11 months ago
@rachelgolem
When Israel massacres Palestinians its not anti-semitism. Palestinians are true Israelite semitic people not the fake Khazar AshkeNAZI Jews.
petersz98 11 months ago
@petersz98 Nice to see somebody actually know the real history of those Zionists Kazhar fake Jews that have more to do with the Huns than Abraham.
luc649 11 months ago
@petersz98 'palestinians' are immigrants from all over the region - they are not native to israel.
they are not even 'palestinians'..
can you tell me about the history of those 'palestinian people'?
can you name one 'palestinian king'?
is there any evidence of 'palestinian rule' in the area?
people like you never cease to amaze me.. it sounds like you almost believe the bullshit that comes out of your keyboard.
you'll avoid my questions because you have no answers.
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@wildlettuce
Name me one Israeli king? Name me one Israeli Prime Minister before 1948? Is there any evidence of Israeli rule before 1948? Is there any evidence of an existence of an Israeli people before 1948? LOL!
If Palestinians are "immigrants" from all over the world what the hell are Israelis other than immigrants that have come from all over the world! LOL What a dumbass you are!
petersz98 11 months ago
@petersz98 israeli kings prior to 1948 - Saul, Solomon, David (ever head of David and Goliath?).. there are many more.
Evidence of Israel's existence prior to 1948 - the cities Jericho, Jerusalem, Schem (nablus), Nazareth.. an enormous amount of archeological findings, and the two largest monotheistic religions (christianity and islam) which derive from judaism.
palestine never existed, not as a state, country, nation, culture or anything prior to 1964.
you are clearly ignorant.
wildlettuce 11 months ago
@wildlettuce
They are not Israeli moron! Israeli nationality only came into existence in 1948. Khazar Jews are not descendents of Abraham, nor are Berber(Sephardic) Jews. Religion is not a nationality idiot!
petersz98 11 months ago
@petersz98 Bullshit. Israel is a synonym. Children of Israel later became Israelites and Judeans, and were later known as Jews. The nation exists consecutively since the bronze period, in Israel and out of it due to exile. There are artifacts, books, correspondence, the works. How about directing me to a single evidence there was a Palestinian collective prior to the 20th century?
ASandEVS 11 months ago
why wasn't a palestininian or someone from an islamic background invited to participate in this discussion?
i'll preface any comments by saying i read both the NYT and Guardian articles. it was all about PR and israel's reputation. not one person expressed regret for loss of life in cast lead.
in view of those who died or were maimed by white phosphorous while seeking refuge in UN compounds, this debate has no legitimacy.
mispistoleros 11 months ago