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  • you can also see my wooden dummy 7 days work cost around 60 $

    nice video man ;-)

  • No. I currently study Motobu Kempo, Motobu Udundi, and Shito Ryu. However, my "upbringing" was with Shobayashi Shorin Ryu, Shorinji Kempo, and Goju Ryu. Shobayashi has a similar lineage to Seibukan. Thanks for the comment!

  • Makiwara: "ouch".

  • Very detailed and well taught instruction! I'm wondering about one thing, why practice bringing your hand back faster than it went out? I understand recovery, but with the way you demonstrated, the hand actually stayed out longer when you're trying to pull it back quickly, seems like a bad habit to me, whats your thoughts on it?

  • @BitFox The hand comes back fast because makiwara training is not just about punching. It is an entire body exercise. Many sanchin type exercises have a fast hikite. This method used with the makiwara parallels methods done in the Motobu family martial arts. It is done like this in the kata as well. To search for the benefit of it, one only needs to look at the bunkai of the kata. Thanks for the comment!

  • @robertmrivers

    Is your Ryu Okinawan Seibukan Shorin Ryu?

  • question, do you always have to put some padding over the board?

    why put padding if the whole point is 2 build up the calluses in your knuckles to strengthen them?

    wouldent hitting something soft slow down the process??

    i dont have a makiwara board but i do have a flat wood block that i hit, is there difference?

  • @TrueDominguez The purpose of maki training is not only conditioning, it is to promote proper stance and timing as well. Example, a maki must flex to provide resistance to your stance. Also, it has to flex so that you can punch hard without injuring your hand. The makis against the wall are really bad for your joints and do nothing for your technique. Also, there is callous conditioning and bone conditioning. You won't build callous with a hard flat surface.

  • @robertmrivers Believe me, a stiff maki with rice straw rope/ carpet/ or leather is not SOFT. The makiwara by its very nature is one tool that provides several positive by-products. Thats why its been around for hundreds of years. Hitting a brick wall will also do some things...but its not healthy. True Okinawan karate is not about being a bad ass. Its about total personal wellness. Long life, healthy families, continuing traditions and culture, and confidence in defending yourself and family

  • I don't mean to be disrespectful, But I heard from one karate grandmaster that the makiwara is not meant for conditioning, It teaches you how to transfer energy into your strikes.

    That same grandmaster has beginning stages of arthritis on his hands from years of not knowing how to properly use the makiwara. Fortunatly for him a high ranking Okinawan karate master showed him what the makiwara was meant for.

  • @GhostGrind No disrespect taken.

    Unfortunately, the use of the makiwara and its role in traditional training has been warped over time. Okinawan masters don't have arthritis because of the 100 other things they do to supplement the makiwara training. Conditioning is a small part of it. I of course teach all of the supplementary things in the dojo. This was only a ten minute introduction to its uses. Cheers

  • I pity the wood where the makiwara hits.

  • The toe kick ? Fuck, how stupid is that ...

  • @ScorieDivine Wait till you get hit with it... then you feel real stupid.

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  • @robertmrivers

    I'm shaking ...

  • very different to the Shotokan way of punching

  • oof!  The tip of the toe one! Aarrgghhh!!!

  • Outstanding instructional video and excellent form.

    Thanks for posting it!

    Regards,

    Renshi, Rokudan - Uechi-ryu

  • @mjdcgb Thanks!

  • I think that it is important to condition the hands for combat. The worst would be breaking your hand on the street.

  • I'm going to buy a straw one of amazon, but can it be used in Muay Thai for braking the nerves in your shin?

  • @PKFRN In karate "irikumi", we do all of the same kicking that Muay Thai does. The onslaught of "MMA" practitioners however, sees the idea of doing shin kicks to kill the nerves in the shin to make you a better kicker. NOT TRUE! We do not do this to Break or kill the nerves! We do this to condition the leg...OVER TIME. You cant just do leg kicks for a couple years on a board and expect to be effective. It takes much longer. The bone itself gets conditioned through the process of microfracturing

  • @robertmrivers It's Just my friend does Muay Thai and thats what he said they do n he wanted to know lol, Thanks :)

  • The body is truly a versitile weapon, perhaps in the makiwara we will develop "ikken hissatsu"

  • I think this Is cool, great job mate u hit that thing quite hard but I'm sure it don't hurt becoz all of the practise u put in to your art, I would love to do karate and i am really thinking about getting stuck in to it great job

  • Good comedy video.

  • @Chasen14 Grow up

  • @Chasen14 LOL

  • punching a wooden poll does what????

  • @link000000 If you have to ask, don't worry about it.

  • Hi Sir,

    Just a quick question what do you use if your knuckles get bruised after doing daily makiwara practice?

    GREAT VIDEO..........

  • @ATI10 I do have dit da jow in the dojo, but the best advice is to just stop for a bit. Getting fluid around the knuckles will not go away with more hitting. You have to let the swelling go down.

    In practice, you don't hit to the point of bruising or cutting you knuckles. Moderation is the key.

  • @ATI10

    Nothing. Just time.

    Saerch Makiwara side effects on youtube.

  • Thanks for posting. Would love to see more of your traditional Okinawan training and conditioning methods.

  • Great info .... thank you : )

  • do u have any callouses on your hand ?

  • yes

  • i made one of these at home and i was wondering does it have any long term damage to you knuckles

  • Moderation! The old traditional prescription is 250 times per day each hand at about half power, then 50 times ea. hand hard. Once you get comfortable with that, you can bump it up to anything up to 1,000 times. But, my teacher was very specific that by age 40, you should back off significantly, about half of what you would typically do. This has to be coupled with other Hojo Undo exercises that help counteract any adverse effects of hitting it. Karate is a lifetime study. Daily moderation!

  • @robertmrivers fauk moderation I dont give a shit what your sensei said i'll never ease up if youre gonna go easy then youre good as dead I ve trained in the old graveyard near here and would see shadows from the corners of my eye didnt break my form thoughthe board is affraid of the fist or is it going to be your fist thats affraid?

  • @786myfist Does your mommy know you're on the computer? Have fun

  • @robertmrivers theres no way for her to know she lives out of town what has that got to do with you being a pussy?

  • @786myfist This is you being blocked. Grow up.

  • @robertmrivers With respect sensei, i don't want to be impolite; have you thought everything through, when you were given the kuro-obi?

  • @Zejex15 What do you mean have i thought everything through? Are you honestly trying to assess my abilities through one video of me punching a board. No offense taken, Karatedo is a very complex art...which is impossible to demonstrate on youtube. This is just a couple makiwara exercises. To answer your question, this is my 20th year in Budo, you can read my profile if you would like any other information. Best wishes.

  • It helps you to know what your capable of, protects you from wasteful overuse/overextention, teaches you how to be as fast as possible and as strong as possible with minimal effort. (Bruce Lee) Maximum damage to the desired target or target within a target (shallow or deep damage to specific organs or bones) ALL THIS WITH MINIMUM DAMAGE/STRAIN/WASTED ENERGY TO YOURSELF. Google "sexyama", new fighter in ufc. His family is Korean from Japan. Fastest and strongest punches I've ever seen! No Waste.

  • over exertion, it prevents overexertion and promotes your health and quality of life. You might have to dig deep in a real fight though. Google "sexyama". traditional Japanese fighter in the UFC. AMAZING!

  • This contains a lot of info, thak you.........

  • You're welcome. Thanks for the comment.

  • your other hand just dangling there isn't making you look like a shihan

  • @superturtleman Perhaps asking a little more politely would garner an explanation as to why I am doing that. You are demonstrating a classic example of "youtube etiquette" and not martial arts etiquette.

    Why would you think you deserve a response if the first thing I read from you is an insult.

    The reason my hand is "dangling there" is why I am a Shihan and why you will always sit at home wondering why I am doing it...

  • i did not mean it as an insult and i apologize for the misunderstanding, please enlighten me. why are you not bringing your other hand back to your ribs as a classic karate punch would dictate?

  • Now you're just being a kiss ass... just kidding.

    @ 1:13 you can see one of the reasons. As I was explaining via an instructional video, my hand is relaxed slightly in in front of me waiting to do something with it while I am talking. In actual practice, I do many things with the opp hand.

  • Regardless, at a certain experience level, it is relaxed to make using it faster. At around 5:11 you can see an example of transitioning to using both hands.

    Shotokan has made the chambering of both hands the proper form. In Okinawa its done a little differently. I also practice a kamae called Tachu gwa, which is unique to Motobu Ryu and often take this position when I train. Ultimately, it comes down to developing punching power from natural positions. I can see it may seem to odd to some.

  • Over the course of the 9 minute video, I bring the hand to my hip, the center of my chest, relaxed by my side, etc. There are a few other reasons but that should get you going. In a nutshell, with the hand pulling back to the hip, your power is going backwards. Forget the idea of hip rotating and reciprocating power...its all not what was intended when actually hitting something. This is why my opp hand is typically slightly in front of me, engaging the front of the body for forward motion.

  • Happy Hitting

  • I've learnt boxing techniques and would like to learn a martial art, I don't like the kicks of muay thai, I think they are to telegraphed, I like karate but I'm worried that there is no upper cuts or hooks in karate, which I'd like to utilize from my boxing, am I wrong, are there upper cuts and hooks

  • @byen8

    Of course there are. I think your boxing skills would benefit you in martial arts study...with the right instructor, so shop around.

  • If I may say so, I the right instructor means someone who is open enough not to negate your prior experience. There are many in the traditional karate community who only focus on linear/block punch karate. However, a person who studies a classical style who is more open will help you get power from the punches you do in ways that few would dream of. Try to find a good Okinawan karate stylist!!! Good Luck!

  • Did you not read my bio...?

    Been doing Okinawan Karate for 20 years. I go once per year. This is a 9 minute introduction to the makiwara, not everything I know. Please keep things in context. This is focused more on basics and conditioning. The other practices for utilizing the makiwara are perhaps for another video. Glad to hear you are enthusiastic about Okinawan Karate. Thanks for the well-wishes. Good luck to you, too.

  • @robertmrivers

    No, you misunderstand. My comment was a follow up to your advice to the boxer who wants to study karate, not to you. I was telling him that by the right instructor you mean someone who is traditional but open to non-linear methods of striking, like in boxing. I can tell from the post that you are seasoned karateka. No disrespect, and thank you for this post.

  • @robertmrivers

    I dont know why it did not show as a reply to his comment

  • which dojo do you train at in okinawa?

  • Ahha...my apologies then. They post these comments all over the place sometimes! Best of luck to you.

  • I bought my makiwara today and Im looking over the internet for any kind of tips on how to fix it, where to do it, how to use it etc. any your video is whai I just found. I love it. Great stuff, great explanation. 5 stars definatelly.

    Regards.

  • MEDIOCRE..

  • By the look of your hands on your video, you've never hit a makiwara, or at least train with it regularly. If you are going to say it is mediocre, explain why and tell us what part of your vast training experience and years with karate do should convince us to believe anything you have to offer.

  • i have notice that every person that hits a makiwara have big hands and wrist

  • Motobu Sensei has no wrists! Thanks for the comment

  • your pulling back is stunningly fast. respect!

  • Thanks!

  • who is your sensei's sensei?

  • I have had several fantastic Sensei in Karate Do... but, if I had to list my Sensei's (plural) Sensei would be Eizo Shimabukuro, Choki Motobu, Shigeru Kimura, Kunio Tatsuno and Shogo Kuniba. I have had great Kempo and Kobudo instructors as well, but that's it for the Karatedo lineage.

  • can you please tell me which are the pros and cons of straw rope makiwara and the leather padding?

  • Straw is more abrasive. But, if you get the good stuff from Okinawa, it is very nice. Don't use twine from a hardware store.

    The leather does not develop the callous on your knuckle as fast, but the bone is developed better. There are several things each cover benefits. We have both at the dojo so that we can develop everything.

  • Wicked toe kick! Makiwara is the best!!

  • Im sorry, but arent you supposed to do a straight punch without having directions?

  • Depends on what your training dictates. In Okinawa, it is taught that, while the fist and the arm may be going straight relative to the person punching, the person getting hit may be receiving the strike at different angles. I suppose if all you ever do is kata or sport kumite in a straight line, then your punch will only be straight . But, Karate is not only kata... and it certainly is not about fighting for points in a straight line.

    Thanks for the comment.

  • Have you been to Okinawa?

  • Yes, I have. Several times. I have teachers in Okinawa as well as Tokyo and I visit at least once per year.

    Thanks

  • I gave it some thought, I came to the conclusion that you are right, sorry. I will discuss this with my sensei. I think he said it even and I forgot? I'll ask. Thanks for the video.

  • I would definitely agreem sir. thanks for the vid. i'm interested in conditioning my fists.

  • Sorry filnerin, but karate is suppose to be natural. Nothing in nature moves in a straight line. By minimizing arcs, you can increase the trajectory of the fist. But attempting to move in too linear a fashion actually robs you of power. Not to mention that the angle of you trajectory should change depending on the point you are attempting to hit.

  • What system do you practice? Definitely outside of the Shotokan box.

  • Motobu ha Shito Ryu and Motobu Kempo. These methods are directly from Okinawa with a couple of my own additions. One in particular was taught to me directly by Soke Motobu

  • great video, thank you ;)

    i'm going to make a makiwara soon, can you give me some spcifics about the dimension and the tapering of the board and the kind if wood to use?

    if yoiu can, in centimeters :)

    Thank you

    Davide

  • Thank you very much.

  • Very informative, greatly appreciated on the techniques!

  • nice explanation, i found it interesting to watch and informative...

    Harry

  • I enjoyed and found this video very interesting.

    Thank you.

  • I appreciate it. All the best.

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