WEANLING MARES 2008 AQHA WORLD SHOW

[adreanjo]

uhmm i raise halter horse, and we breed for balance and structural corectness! the industry is not to create a bionic horse but to create ideal conformation on a horse that can move. if you go to a halter show at the world show and listen to how the classes are being placed you'll understand. People juar tend to sometimes abuse the animals by injecting abnormal supplements into their bodies, not everyone does that. most of us do not. we work really hard for the excess muscle we get!

[TheLadythinking]

unfortunates american horses

[missChicquita]

They look like bulls bred for the meat industry. They can't move proparly because of the overkill of muscles.

[pawsforacause1]

these horses are beautiful! Although i do agree about the muscling and conformation... it is unfortunate. some of these owners will have to worry about the horses injuring themselves in the paddock because they are so unmobile and heavy.

[adreanjo]

is this really a weanling class?

[iluvhorses7898]

im looking forward to training my mares foal (due next year) for halter. it will be my first halter horse, and i have gotten to meet 3 world champions. I actually got to sit on "Sheza Classic Doll"s sister "Barbie" owned by Roz Rains. These horses are soooo powerful, but there are some consequences to it! good luck to you guys!

[TheLittlegirls12]

it is sad that some of these horses will not be rode but breed back most people breed to good horses to make better horses for any type of riding instead of being judged on how they look than on how they perform your horse could have great conformation and still run like crap and they can have bad conformation but run better than the well breed horses with an amazing pedigree sadly looks dont make a good horse

[kaeso100]

What big fat over conditioned fillies.....and owners get prizes for this?!

[horses4ever62]

they look great but sad thing is a lot of these filly's will never be ridden! most break down when broken in if they even get there. Some of the feet on these weanlings are shocking! growth plates wouldnt be doing very well either!

[aqhashowgirl4ever]

I perfer performance halter where its pleasure horses and there based on how pretty and clan they are rather then how fat they are

[edlovehorses]

I'm not a big fan of Quarter Horses..they just seem to have small legs, little heads, and giant butts. I think they should be a little more proportional..especially a lot of these horses..teeny legs and bit bodies.

[islandsummer8]

@edlovehorses please don't judge all QH's by what you see in halter classes!! Halter horses have reached the point where they are bred to look this way for halter, and are often not good riding horses because of how they are built. It is completely silly, but it doesn't mean they are all like that. There are lots and lots of beautiful, sound, great Quarter Horses out there!!

[edlovehorses]

@islandsummer8 Yeah, I have seen pretty quarter horses and I do agree with you..its silly how they are bred just for halter classes.

[Stugazza]

Big weanlings

[bridlelessgirl]

@Stugazza you dont know how much feed and work goes into making them big! its a lot of work..sadly most of them end up lame

[Stugazza]

Yes.... I do know. Been raising Quarter Horses all of my life.. You are right that it takes a lot of work to raise good horses. Some do go lame from improper care/unsound to begin with. We were fortunate to not have that.

[bridlelessgirl]

@Stugazza Its not un-proper care..some are just to ig for theri own good and others grow to fast! =)

[Stugazza]

Improper care after riding/work can cause lameness. However you are correct about about growing too big or too fast. These horses were apparently bred just for halter shows. That is not good.

[Stugazza]

My dad & grandpa always bred first good & healthy horses. we always had solid horses that were bred for all around. My grandpa was a cattle buyers & needed to use the horses. They were also well taken care of. 

[giddyupgal73]

Excuse my Ignorance, But I am blown away that these are "WEANLINGS" ...If that's what it takes to have a World Champion WEANLING, I guess I will just stay at my small backyard shows. No doubt they are beautiful. But, I can only IMAGINE the long term effects of these Oversized-OverConditioned-Over­trained babies. I am BLOWN AWAY!!! I guess you can say I am totally into horses that are not only PRETTY...But, SOUND well into ADULTHOOD! My gosh what are we doing to the HORSE?????

[juttindell]

This is not a trend. Go back to the first World Show in 1974. World Champion stallions: Impressive, Sonny Go Lucky and Man In Command. All were very post as were several of the foremost horses in the pleasure/performance world (The Investor, Hotrodders Jet Set and Sonny Dee Bar) ... were those horses useless too?

[joop1234567890]

Horses should be bred for living happy and healthy lifes, and can also be ridden by people. Horse breeders make the same mistake as dog breeders, and breed for show.

[hkb88823]

My dad showed in that class

[jasonaldeanlover1]

oh thats cool what did he show and what place did he get do you show?

[Sockatears101]

WOW! That was really good. All the fillys look really nice!

[hannahhorsegirl1]

yah when u get qualified to go there all the horses are good

[carniride]

Although I really like quarter horses, I find it a sad trend that the halter horses are so base-narrow and post legged? And lets not even start with the limited ROM in the stifle.Functionally, the conformation seems somewhat useless. But they sure are sleek.

[hannahhorsegirl1]

thay are not narrow based and post legged there legs are supposed to lock in but thay are not narrow based they are vary wide

[wndytem]

Amazing Filly that won! She was my pick! Can't wait to see what she does this year at the Congress! I Love her sire and her full sister that won a few years ago! Great breeding keep up the great work.

[LightRanch]

Wndytem, I just came across this comment. I own and raised Curvy Cowgirl and also, her sister Mazzarini. Thank you for the compliments on them. Their mama is having a full sibling in Jan.

[hannahhorsegirl1]

some people like horses that dont ride not every horse has to ride but you can show them in performance halter do you even have horses obsocuremelody

[obscuredmelody]

Those weanlings are huge!

I can't help but wonder if that excess weight ever effects future soundness?

[obscuredmelody]

Don't apologize, I welcome your opinion.

Horses should be bred form to function. What's functional about horses that can't be ridden?

That's right, no offense but you're only ten. Far too young to see with your own eyes long term effects. Just like cigarettes, when they were first created no one knew they could cause cancer. Well guess what? Years later after studying the long term effect, guess what? They aren't healthy.

[tgeneaqha]

These horses are really only bred to do this.. it is not like they are having heavy riding or anything, but some people will ride them.

[obscuredmelody]

Horses should be bred form to function. What's functional about horses that can't be ridden?

Those horses are too bound up by muscle to be anywhere near the versatility Quarter Horses were once favored/prized for.

I love Halter and judging on conformation, but the current fad is "Bigger is Better." I've taken enough judging clinics to know. Sad, but true.

[royaldakotabreez]

obscuredmelody, i completely agree. We had a mare that was strictly halter bred, and it was so hard to get her fit and keep her that way since she was so big naturally. she also had small hooves and the older she got, the harder it was to keep her sound because of her size compared to her feet. I believe horses should be bred to do anything needed, not just stand and look pretty. They should be bred to perform. Pretty only takes you so far.

[hannahhorsegirl1]

but you dont just stand and look pretty in halter you haft to move you know that right

[royaldakotabreez]

yes i do know that. What i'm saying is that alot of halter horses are just that...halter horses. they are bred to be only that. I can tell you if I were to take any of these weanlings and try and turn them into a rope horse or a barrel horse, they wouldn't excel, simply because they are built and bred for only halter.

[obscuredmelody]

The problem is... is that Quarter Horses were once prized for their versatility. But these horses are anything but versatile. The first horse competitions consisted of judging on their conformation, speed, and ranch work. The horse with the best composite score won the competition. I'm not saying horses can't be specialized, but make them good for something so they have a purpose and a job.

I currently have a job in the Equine Industry as we speak, but that has nothing to do with it.

[hannahhorsegirl1]

yah well that is great and wat do u do in the equine indrustry as you say and do u even know half od these people or even heard of them b4

[hannahhorsegirl1]

yes but then what would performance halter befor then why dont they just keep them in with the hatler they get points in showmanship we get points in halet

[doubleluckranch]

I would have to disagree. A halter horse, that is bred to be a halter horse, does not look like that out in the pasture. They lose the muscle just like anything else. So with that idea, they can be athletic. Not all, but some. I have seen several nice horses that were Bred to be halter horses that were not and excelled in other areas and vice versa. But I bet that you could turn about half of these horses into rope or barrel horses. They may not win the NFR but would still be nice.

[obscuredmelody]

I am genuinely interested in the industry and want only what is best for the horses. Do you know of any examples of a top halter horse that also cross shows in performance classes?

I have friends that barrel race and a halter bred horse would be their last pick. They would take a racing bred with some halter influence, but not a horse specifically bred and raised for halter.

[doubleluckranch]

Remarkable Can. AQHA World Champion on Performance Halter Open and Amateur as well as 4 time Congress Performance Halter Champion. AQHA Open Champion with points in HUS, WP, HMS, SMS, HSE, and Trail. Very competitive in Performance Class (Top 6 in HMS at AQHA Congress) and very competitive in Halter (even in Open or Amateur Aged Geldings). His sire was H/H. Just do a search on him if you want to know more.

[hannahhorsegirl1]

and yet again i say someone who knowa what they are talking about.

[hannahhorsegirl1]

of course they wouldnt take a halter horse bucause that is not what they are looking for. yes there are performance horses that show at aqha shows that i am at you have to get 10 riding points to be elligable for the performance horses. the only horses that i can think of as an example right now is rugged lark.

[hannahhorsegirl1]

exactly not all of them turn out what they were supposed to be. finally someone that has an idea about what they are talking about.

[xxmisswelshyxx]

no such thing as 'haft' to. argh people that can't type proper english!

[hannahhorsegirl1]

that is totally right they can move like a riding horse because they haft tom walk different from them to keep your muscle out of the way

[obscuredmelody]

Say what? I'm really interested in hearing what you have to say, but I don't really understand your point or what you just typed. Do you care to rephrase for clarity?

[hannahhorsegirl1]

halter horses dont move like riding horses because they haft to move around all their muscles

[obscuredmelody]

My point exactly. What good is a horse that isn't even athletic enough to be ridden?

[hannahhorsegirl1]

Whats so good about riding horses then

[jasonaldeanlover1]

ok well maybe thats what they are for and you are never going to change that and by the way i made a new account i used to be hannahhorsegirl1 now i am jasonaldeanlover1

[hannahhorsegirl1]

no and they are small for their age htey have enough weight for there height but if they were taller they would need more weight and it will not effect their lameness aslong as you keep them shoes on them and their feet trimmed

[cashmere1992]

beautiful

[karamojong]

Pretty young ladies! Thanks for sharing! :)

[appygal970]

Thanks for adding this

[ilcowgirl]

WOW Josh!!! Bigtime Congrat's for all your WC & RWC wins!