Tax Protest Puts "Me" Over "We"

[spymaine89]

ROMNEY HIDES TAX RETURN

[freedom5008]

"Me" is the correct attitude. Check with the Ayn Rand Institute. The female commentator is using class envy and "fairness" to issue a collectivist philosophy.

When you need a job, who do you seek: the wealthy, middle class, or the poor?

[reallypatriotic]

With rights, come responsibilities. Paying taxes is a civic duty.

Google "A Day in the Life of Joe Conservative" to get a refresher on why we pay taxes.

The conservatives are selling a very seductive message that you can get something for nothing. Even they know it is not true, but just hope you are sucker enough to fall for it.

[dannyd1572]

People don't believe in taxes until something in their community is taken away..such as a library, school, fire department, park...etc. Besides..when asked about taxes and life jesus said "give to cesar what is cesars and to god what is gods."

[roaringwaterbay]

we need a flat tax . . . it's fairer than what we have now or even better, get rid of the income tax and go to a national sales tax.

[roaringwaterbay]

taxes are wasted by both dems and repubs.

[futuresparky]

i wouldnt mind paying taxes if the money actually went to help out my fellow americans. instead it goes to build drones that drop bombs on the poorest people in the world, and then this bailout of wall street. i hate the government. the implicit assumption here is that not wanting to pay taxes is based solely on selfishness, and that is really not the case. we believe better communities could result from less federal interference.

[neue01]

P.S. When you put "WE" over "ME" you end up with an authoritarianism where in the individual is a sacrificial lamb to the collective. This type of thinking gives us the horrors of nazi germany where the collective expressed it's dominance over the minority in horrible ways. The reason america was unique was that it attempted initially to put the ME before the WE. The group is a collection of individuals not an individual in itself.

[evacuationplanb]

@neue01 Godwin's Law!

[neue01]

@evacuationplanb Absolutely Godwin's law and what I stated is also absolutely true. ;)

[neue01]

Taxes are a type of economic authoritarianism. They are supported by small minded envious people who believe they know what's best for all of us. These same people obviously do not understand classic economics yet they profess that they know where our money is best spent. Sad.

[AmazingTemple]

In this video, Growth and Justice's Angela Eilers says tax protesters are putting "me" over "we."

Nonsense. She wants the gov't to force you at gunpoint to pay for endless gov't programs -- regardless of *your* wishes.

If you don't want to pay for criminal wars like Iraq, torture camps, the insane War on Drugs, the failing welfare state, crummy public schools, and all the other "services" of the State, Ms. Eilers and her ilk want you fined, jailed or shot.

That;s what taxation really is.

[GDR352]

I think it's time for a flat tax---ten to fifteen percent across the board for EVERYBODY. No loopholes, no oil depletion allowances, no exemptions for bad investments, no fancy manipulations of the tax code by sharp lawyers or tax accountants. Just have everyone and every company pay the same rate. Period. The way it is now the wealthiest individuals and companies hire numbers crunchers who find ways to dodge taxes so that poor working schmucks like me and you get stuck paying for everything

[zingomingo]

Angela Eilers, related to Ellsworth Toohey?

[WrenchBiscuit]

The women speaking here would make a

great Stepford wife.

[JSenator06]

MORE SOCIALISM: Yeah, way to go...(let's do more of the same)..(sarc/just incase anyone didn't pick that up).

[matthews257]

NO that would suck

[heychupacabras]

Yea, count yourselves lucky, people. The British are getting fucked in the ass by a 20 inch corporate didldo. We Americans only have to get raped with a 18 inch one! What the hell kind of logic is that, sollycardy98?

[sollycardy98]

Count yourself lucky. Here in Britain, if you earn £30+ grand you'll be taxed 40 per cent, if you earn less you'll be taxed 20 per cent.

[Tuborg2645]

sad panda.

here its 50%+ :p

[tpwebster]

Where was your information about the 50% tax hike on the lowest income earners coming? Whats wrong with fair taxes, its not fair to work your ass off in life and be able to get your reward? Oh and that was a great comment about the accountability of taxes, I'm sure we can tell all the 35W bridge victims, that when the next bridge falls, this time we had tax accountability and the money SHOULD have been spent to fix the roads, but thanks to our accountability we will know why it wasn't.

[karn3022]

I am furious about the amount of taxes I pay! This is NOT supposed to be a socialist wealth redistribution nation. All federal income tax MUST be abolished! The IRS MUST be abolished. People will never be freed of this burden... we must free ourselves.

[dannyd1572]

@karn3022 Taxes have went down. Just ask anyone who received a check from April 15.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

@karn3022 The thing is, is that all those taxes don't even go to social programs they all go to the military industrial program and to pay the interest back on the federal reserve notes.

[ianfranklin1]

Being forced to pay for things you don't use is also theft. I send my child to private school and I still have to pay for her to go to public school also.

[JonasSalk]

It's always interesting that morons want to increase taxes on everybody for things THEY want. It's like putting a gun to my neighbor's head and demanding $50 to pay for my cigarettes and then saying he's "stingy" or "greedy" if he declines.

If you want more tax dollars for schools and roads, then write a check to the government. Don't advocate thievery to pay for things YOU want.

[medhue]

Oh and according to the constitution. An individuals who generate income from other individuals has no tax liablity other than on direct taxes on commodities. So technically there is a benefit but the Federal Reserve may still think u own them. lol They are pure evil. lol

[y2knoproblem]

Blah...blah... We need MORE government to pay for my healthcare, housing, food, trips to the casino and beer nuts.

[rundoetx]

Down with the FED, down with the IRS.

RP..08

Peace Now

RundoeTX

[medhue]

After reading some of these comments, i would like to make this statement. Yes Goverment is evil and supports criminal conduct. This is obvious. No debate really. But individuals need to think differently too. Part of the problem also has to do with a mind set that some big corporation is going to take care of me. Instead of thinking, what can i do to start my own business and control my own fate.

Of course this is made harder by the lack of support, especially health care.

[medhue]

Personally, i feel the federal gov should only take taxes for the countries security. All other taxes should be controlled by the state u live in. The states should have complete control over education & health care. Taxes for any charity or group, should be decide by each individual, & who they give that money to. All the area of importance, like health, education, & security, are horrible in this country & i for 1 will not pay 4 crap. It seems now rich=crook, its sad.

[Libertarian333]

You'd have to be an abject moron to believe people need to be threatened with death or imprisonment for roads to be built and maintained.

The problem: we have gangs of criminals (called "governments") stealing our labor products, and stacking the deck then falsely claiming we have free markets.

The solution: voluntary association, charity, and exchange, and real homesteaded property (not this property by govt decree scam we have now).

But sadly "anarchy" makes most people piss their pants.

[alexerb]

excellent video, this issue should be discussed more often. Paying fair taxes is a sign of civilization.

[bombkiller007]

All fascists believe that the right of the individual to pursue happiness should instead be replaced by a universal commandment asserting that 'each individuals life and property should be dedicated solely to the pursuit of the common or collective good' (and of course what constitutes the "common good" and how much each must contribute can only be articulated solely by America's fascistic elites, ie. Democrats.

[tomlykus]

Yes we should all be good slaves and let the govt take our labor from us. The comunist manafesto was right tax the slaves!

[jokertim777]

Nice socialist spin lady. A few problems with what she said:

1. How is $400,000/year middle class?

2. Labeling tax protestors as selfish is a classic attempt at unfounded unprovable name calling... not a credible argument.

3. Citing education to invoke the "its the children" argument is lame. We spend more and get less than the rest of the world on education. More money isn't going to fix that, just make it worse.

4. She mentions services that aren't funded by income tax revenues.

[russelljgarner]

the chick being interviewed was hot!

[midwestcharm]

Bring our troops home ,so we can use them for a war on greed and corruption

[sugarpuddin88]

Souless corporations legally bribe politicians - So what else can you expect?

Remember how much stocks rallied forward the last time the Government shut down?

Government bad kids - M-kay?!

[HaoSci]

I don't think it has anything to do with the government. Government is neither the problem or solution, if the government is hired by capable employees, having the right policy, and representative. I don't think no matter how big the government is, it won't be a problem. The same is true for the market.

[stratvic]

The market is self correcting because it allows people and businesses to fail. The more the government fails the stronger it gets because the solution advocated for all government failure is always more government not less.

[FeelFreeToArgue]

Where are these businesses that are allowed to fail? You mean, like banks? Or car companies? Sure, you're allowed to fail if you're a small business, but once you're big enough the rules don't apply any more.

[stratvic]

I agree government should not tax the successful to prop up the failures. But that is the nature of government. They are using the standards to which they hold their own performance which always meets government failure with more government and applying it to business. They should stay out of the market but we keep allowing them to take our money feeding the beast and demanding government solutions to all our problems.

[FeelFreeToArgue]

Historically, the country has done better when the rich pay their fair share of taxes (Paul Krugman has established this). When the rich get to shirk their responsibilities to the rest of us, like now, there is debt, economic slowdown, and widening disparity. The rich profit more from our system, they use more of its resources, they should pay more. We need to rescind the tax breaks for the rich, and add an increase so they can contribute the money they haven't been trickling.

[stratvic]

What resources do the wealthy use more of that belong to the our in "our system"?

[stealth63]

How do people get wealthy? Does a factory owner personally build 10000 TVs? He uses the infrastructure ever time his employee goes to the doctor, drives over a bridge, gets educated, or the govt protects international commerce, etc. He's at the top of the income pyramid. It is obvious that he's also using (unless living in a cave on an island) lots of the infrastructure. You want to see what a country looks like when rich don't invest in the infrastructure (via taxes), look at the third world.

[stratvic]

A wealthy factory owner saves to invest and accepts the risk and uses other peoples personally owned time, assets, and savings for which she pays a market price. The infrastructure she uses she pays for through fees and charges. There is still no argument to determine that because she does that well she should be punished by being forced to pay excessive taxes in relation to the government services she uses.

[stratvic]

If you site paying for infrastructure as a reason to tax higher incomes then as well as capturing factory owners you also capture professionals that have high income but use no additional infrastructure. The means (taxing income) does not align to the objective. A better means to financing infrastructure is through user fees and charges that relate to the use of the infrastructure itself.

[FeelFreeToArgue]

Look, I don't buy into having everything on per use basis. At a certain point, you gotta say I live in this society and the society needs things, and we should all share in paying for it. In a large society you will always end up paying for things you don't personally use, but which are nevertheless worthwhile to you. I may not have kids in school, but it is still good to have a well educated electorate. And the rich do disproportionately use state resources.

[stratvic]

"And the rich do disproportionately use state resources."

Which ones? (that they don't pay for)

[ruralpotter]

srtatvic, In my state, a dry drought state, a wal-mart distibution center was given free water and huge property tax breaks no one else got because they promised jobs. BTW, those jobs came, didn't pay as much as promised and were cut drastically only a year after opening. They still get the goodies because they threaten to close otherwise. Meanwhile small business close everday with no help.This is just one example.

[stratvic]

So are you saying that propping up corporations is a good reason to tax?

This is a case of government expecting the benefits they give to companies to move to their area to return more than they give them in taxes. That makes the government a business that forces is customers customers to pay them money for something they don't want.

If consumers want the services of businesses they have no need of government support.

[stealth63]

The childless also pay property tax,supporting schools.But its worth it because they live in a community where even poor children get educated, with the resulting decrease in crime, drugs and other social problems. Millionaires don't live in some kind of social vacuum. I agree that "excessive taxation" discourages investment, but your argument relies on an oversimplification. If taking a whole bottle of aspirin is bad, it doesn't follow that taking a couple of aspirin is bad. Balance is needed

[stratvic]

Should you force people to take aspirin or allow people to choose to take them?

[stealth63]

Dude, you are so reaching. Twisting a fairly straightforward analogy doesn't really score any points-unless you were just kidding. Just because too much taxation is bad (which we all agree on) it doesn't follow that the answer is no taxation. I personally like clean water, bridges, police enforcement, education, etc, and it is important to our countries well being to have these things. If your mythical self made man can live without them, move to an island, but don't come back when you need help

[ahset]

besides the fact that you don't have to pay an income tax and property tax pays for all of what you said, stattvic had a good point.

[ruralpotter]

"And the rich do disproportionately use state resources."

Which ones? (that they don't pay for)-stratvic

This is what I responded to. Hell no, I don't think that Wal-mart should have recieved any of what we provided them. I was responding to your question of what resources do the rich use that they don't pay for! Water is a valuable resource. And tax breaks that small business owners who really serve a community DON'T get should be done away with.

[stratvic]

Determination of the businesses that serve the community is decided by the consumer. It appears that the people disagree with your preference of small businesses over large and they are voting with their wallets. Are you saying that they are wrong?

Either way I think we agree that taxes are not justified by an objective to prop up businesses and that consumers should decide their fate. Or are you saying that small businesses should get tax payer funded handouts?...because you like them?

[inaeurotrance]

every stupid fiscal conservative should watch this video.

[stratvic]

Those who are wealthy pay more in taxes and receive less services is that fair?

Roughly:

Income $300k = $100k --> $1k in govt services

Income $30k = $12k --> $2k in govt services

A 1% vs 17% return in the dollar... a bad investment for a poor person but a near total loss for a wealthy person...is that fair?

nb. The return of services on a dollar of tax is 10% due to govt inefficiency. i.e. 90% wasted.

What did the person earning $300k do that was so bad as to be fined $99k.

[UpTakeVideo]

When you point to some reliable real statistics, we'll take you seriously. The question here is the ability to pay. Until rich people are willing to provide their own military, infrastructure and water systems, they're in the pool with the rest of us. And you pay based upon how much you're benefiting... ie..your income.

[stratvic]

Why is ability to pay relevant?

Income is based on contribution into the economy that has already balanced inputs and outputs to what is considered fair by the participating parties and is therefore irrelevant in regard to taxation fairness.

What you get in return for your tax is however completely relevant especially because it is a compulsory transaction those who impose the price incur a higher moral obligation to ensure fairness to the payee in absence of their volition.

[ltlillil]

What's more, governmental services and institutions provide greater benefits to the rich. For example, the rules and regulations required to create a level playing which make it possible to earn capital gains, is managed by the SEC and supported by a whole maze of legal requirements, which proportionately, are of much greater interest to America's rich, than other classes. But, to repeat your point, income, as a whole, is the best measure of benefits which accrue from governmental costs.

[Deweydecible]

word

I work for local governments and if it wasn't for a tax base we would have no police force, fire protection, public schools, roads... the list goes on.

The idea that "you know how to spend your money better than the government" is missing the point. If by "know" he means know how to support the community and distribute wealth to provide essential services and share prosperity, I disagree.

The government usually knows better and is organized to take on that task.

[scottmanesis]

Your police and fire are paid for by your property tax as are your public schools. Your roads are paid for with a direct tax on your fuel and other exise taxes. Income tax pays towards the interest on th FEDERAL RESERVE. There is no law that says your WAGES are taxable. If you think there is please show it to me.........the IRS can't seem to produce it.

[SMoldie]

are you suggesting no taxes and every person for themselves. Private security, schools and health care for those whom can pay. Isn't that the US today, and the 'american dream', is the ablity to pay for all these services for your loved ones.

[SMoldie]

are you suggesting no taxes and every person for themselves. Private security, schools and health care for those whom can pay. Isn't that the US today, and the 'american dream', is the ablity to pay for all these services for your loved ones.

[stratvic]

"The government usually knows better and is organized to take on that task."

You are an idiot; Katrina, Iraq, Prohibition (war)on drugs, CIA failures in regard 911, Guantanamo, teachers tenure, ...we could go on all day.

[stratvic]

Why is ability to pay relevant?

To elaborate... If the moral standard is that is you can give something you should. Then is should also be true that if you can give blood to should (by force if necessary) and to be consistent the same logic should extend to kidneys.

I hope we can agree that ability to do anything does not translate into should do anything...including ability to pay tax.

[ltlillil]

Get ahold of yourselves, LIBERALS! What the heck do you think is responsible for the BUSH BOOM we're living in now? Bush's drastic tax cuts, that's what! If it hadn't been for the dramatic lowering of income taxes and reduction of capital gains taxes for the wealthy, our richest citizens would not have been able to invest that money in productive, new industries, which have created a bounty of good paying jobs for our least fortunate citiens. Now, let McCain eliminate inheritance taxes!

[adventurenox]

This disparity began in ernest when Regan manufactured a debt crisis in order to justify selling off public assets to private buyers. Middle-class taxes went up (or failed to go down) to battle this debt crisis. By shifting a larger portion of the tax burden onto the middle class a desire was created amongst the majority for lower taxes even if those lower taxes come at the expense of social spending. Read John McMurty - Cancer Stage of Capitalism.

[fistnbone]

Hmmm.. normally, I would critcize the Ron Paul-ish No Tax theory. But, considering how bad things are now maybe we should abolish the police and goverment and just see what happens. At worst, I figure it could only be as oppressive as what we have now.

[snarkwaupaca]

Maybe you can move to Chile or almost anywhere in Africa and get back to us. Your whole "I'm a victim of the government" tune may change.

[fistnbone]

I've lived in the third world and I agree that it the first world is more comfortable. However, I think it is naive to ignore the role the U.S. Government, as well as big business, has played in ensuring such oppressive regimes persist. At home, we jail one in hundred people and starve public schools of funding (instead we build bigger and better weapons to keep peace). Abroad, we support brutal regimes like the one that overthrew the democratically elected government in Chile in 1973.

[eincali]

The item she fails to mention:

Income tax DOES NOT pay to build the sidewalks, streets, and highways. This is a very common misconception most people have. Most, if not all, of federal income tax collected goes to pay the interest on the money loaned to the US goverment by the Fed.

Money for road construction comes in the form of the tax placed on EVERY gallon of gas you and I buy, and other sources such as tolls.

[fistnbone]

In Minnesota? In Louisiana, income tax money can be spent on roads and infrastructure.

[eincali]

Bear in mind, this is a very diluting video between FEDERAL income tax and STATE income tax. State income taxes can stay within the state.

The reason Louisiana uses SIT for this is because federal funding was slashed due to their reluctance to maintain a federal drinking age minimum of 21 throughout the state.

[hugozoom]

she's talking about the Minnesota state income tax, not the federal income tax.

[snarkwaupaca]

The federal government is different from State Government. She didn't mention it because it is not true and that would have made her a liar.

[EricIndiana]

yup.

The system is being designed to fail is the real problem. The middle class is systematically being made to slowly disappear so we are left with only 2 classes, the poor and the rich.

Once a new Depression is instigated the middle class will no longer exist, just like the last time they engineered a Great Depression.

[ltlillil]

Exactly the point, eincali. That's why, yesterday, John McCain proposed that we do away with the gas tax!

[kalvinphil]

This should read...Tax Protest, puts the constitution over the government.

[cheeseaura]

What she's saying is irrelevant!

The income tax is an illegal tax, NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY IT!

[libertyerian]

I was on board with the equal taxation until she started to saying that politicians she be investing our money and her unsubstantiated claim that the current taxation is equally beneficial to all and more beneficial than if it staid in the hands of its proper owner. She fails to realize that the money she hopes to progressively tax is all ready invested and beneficial to all. They are just transferring money form competent people to lazy and incompetent politicians and government employees.

[WadeBlazingame34]

Barb Davis White is one scary dude (4:06).

[entmajic]

State revenues are NOT allocated evenly/fairly they are allocated with heavy manipulation from special interests, and lobbying groups. The STATE does not improve the economy it DISTORTS it.

Do the middle class pay too much?

YES, their taxes should be lowered, AS THEY SHOULD BE FOR EVERYONE.

FINALLY: WE ARE NOT WILLING TO PAY AN INCOME TAX INCREASE, RICH POOR OR MIDDLE CLASS.

IT IS TANTAMOUNT TO LOOTING.

[j0hnwi11iams]

There's always some bonehead politician willing to exploit myopia and greed.

[mcresearch]

The people who appeal to the baser instincts of selfishness and greed will lead us to trouble down the road.

Should we abolish police because people can do a better job? Should we close schools and save taxes? Perhaps another government organization, the Fire Department should be disbanded because people can handle their own fires.

Idiots!

What we really need to do is improve government by voting out politicians like these and who are in office for their own gain.

[CallMeNiel]

The richest people in society (who get big tax cuts from Bush) aren't generally the "hard working Americans" so much as the CEOs of companies that efficiently manage labor, ie send jobs to countries without a minimum wage

[ShinsengumiTaicho1]

Everyone should pay their fair share.

[stratvic]

Of the service they use.

[bebop54]

ron paul , folks .....write him in !

[MrMP81]

Why don't you do a little more " research " and see that the Income Tax is " illegal "

[bebop54]

that's right 'mrMP' .......

income tax is the biggest scam around ...

the news is out ..people are pissed off.....

[goldguruj]

the real issue is how our tax dollars are spent. when the bulk of my tax dollars go to pay interest to the federal reserve (a privately held corporation) and to funding illegal, immoral wars around the world, then i don't want to pay taxes. if the government were restrained to the responsibilities set forth in the Constitution, we would not need to pay nearly the amount in taxes we currently pay. and if we eliminated the fed and printed our own money, tax rates would be cut in half.

[bebop54]

it's an outrage & must stop ...

[dingorex]

The death/estate tax hurts farmers and children of parents that were frugal and saved money. It needs to be abolished. The sweat of your brow income you've saved being taxed is punishing investments in the future, those who leave money to their children so they can better help their children attend college.

[bebop54]

yeah 'ding' !..college tuition even though the schools are basically controlled by the gov' now ...

..i guess they are tryin' to force the kids into the military for an education ...disgustin'...

[jaekent]

The only solutions are to tax the rich and to set profit limits for the big corporations so that they stop ruining the lives of their employees through layoffs to maximize their profit margins. Accountability vs. a Revolution .. either way , it won't be pretty.

[stratvic]

They will all go overseas and there will be no corporations or wealthy left for you to target or employ people in the community. I suppose that will make you happy but poverty is deadly.

[jaekent]

Poverty is only deadly to those who are without survival skills. The corporations won't be going anywhere. They need us more then we need them. Most won't be able to compete in the foreign markets. They will have to adjust to the laws, be able to capitalize on their market trends and hope that they aren't entering a saturated market. There's also the issue of local competition and the acceptance of the local population. As for the wealthy . tax them . not take all of their money.

[stratvic]

We need businesses as much as they need us. Its the relationship between business and consumers expressed in the market that makes us wealthy. Acceptance and support is based on the support based on our consumption. Targeting success for excessive tax is an abuse of that relationship. Bleeding successful businesses of the rewards of doing a good job for us all weakens us all. Step too far over the line and they are lost to another country forever.

[jaekent]

Let's do some math .. Cost of living : +10% Employment ( raises ) : +5% In the hole : -5% Why is consumer confidence low? Feb'08 . 76,000 jobs lost Mar'08 . 80,000 jobs Jobless rate goes from 4.8% to 5.1% -- Financial Post, April 4, 2008 232,000 job losses - first 3 months of '08 -- CNNMoney[dot]com, April 4, 2008 It's not rocket science .. people aren't spending because their losing their jobs so that the corporations can make *record profits.

[stratvic]

Corporations make money when they hire people and employ those people efficiently and effectively. If hiring people is profitable they will hire as many people as they can. Taxes reduce profitability and the size of the consumer market both of which reduce incentives to hire.

[jaekent]

waste of time .. you obviously have no understanding of Economics or the ability to comprehend the stress that the corporations put on the market and the workforce when they layoff thousands in the name of profitability.

Riddle me this .. where are the profits when a CEO is paid $15 million to leave a company?

or better.

How do you plan on turning a profit when the workforce is shrinking and as a byproduct, consumer spending is down? If they aren't buying, you are not going to profit.

[stratvic]

You need to look beyond employment increases or decreases to determine why the demand for the work the a company does declines that initiates layoffs. Macro issues such as taxation reduce international competitiveness. Other countries are taxing their companies at less than half the rate than they are taxed in the US.

[stratvic]

"Poverty is only deadly to those who are without survival skills."

Jaekent: Are you a primitivist?

[jaekent]

stratvic: I'm what one would call a lifer. I'm ok with the idea of dying but will do whatever it takes to live. Living a free and educated life.

[totalnerd747]

Increasing taxes period have never benefited any economy, historically whenever taxes are lowered federal revenue goes up the following year. But that is not to say that there isn't a reason for taxes. Somethings which can only be provided efficiently via a shared common, for example highways and public transportation. Other things such as war in Iraq is just a waste of funds...

It is all about balance...

[scottmanesis]

There are direct taxes already impossed to take care of those things totalnerd. Not one of the things you mentioned gets paid for by the illegally collected unapportioned income tax.

[robbyg74]

i don't understand all this no taxes talk. Without taxes who would pay our children's teachers? who would build and maintain our roads? who would clean our water? who would protect our lakes and rivers? Who would protect us, i.e. fireman and police officers? Our tax money goes to much more than stadiums and light rail people.

[Steadno]

There should be a national flat sales tax on most thing.

[supertommy1]

are you kidding me? I want to shoot myself watching this video. Increasing taxes on the rich doesn't benefit us. The "state-wide" pool is not shared fairly and equally. What kind of a fool wants to pay income taxes? We need a real fair income tax: at 0%. This "we" is not the people, this "we" is going to end up being those in government or those who benefit from government--and those people do not include the bulk of the middle class. Less government, less taxes. Socialism always fails.

[robbyg74]

"the benefits are going to go to those involved in government or those who benefit from government?"

Like teachers, firemen, police officers, city and county workers who build and maintain the roads you drive on? Your right those people are not "the people" and definitely don't represent the middle class.

[supertommy1]

you think the federal income tax pays for the local salary of firemen, teachers, and police officers?

[robbyg74]

I am saying that our tax money federal or not income, or sales goes to a lot more than people seem to think, and it effects a lot more average everyday people than most know. I am a seasonal city worker, and my father is a local politician and i know that our living comes directly from tax money. You make it sound like the government is taking all our money and keeping it for themselves and their friends when that just isn't the case. It costs a lot of money to run a country.

[CIAOfilms]

NO TAXES!!! federal reserve...BILDEBURG!!!