@Requiemxtoxinnocence 1) If you reject the Bible because it was written by men, then why do you accept that quote, since it was written by a man?
2) Every evildoer will stand before God to give an account. The problem is, we are all evildoers in His sight. To demonstrate His mercy, He made a way of escape by Jesus Christ's death and resurrection. He now commands that your response is to repent of your sins and trust in Him.
Not only was the bibull written by human beings, it was written by anonymous, (obviously) highly superstitious human beings with zero scientific knowledge of this world/Universe - does it sound like a good idea to trust their judgment? Furthermore; the bibull was edited by human beings (Constantine & co), was/is published by human beings (for profit...) & in the end is read by delusional humans.
And why exactly does your omnipotent invisible sky-daddy need an editor & a publisher?
@ChrisHobeck How do you know Jesus is the 'one' true God? There have been innumerable gods throughout the ages and the main reason for most people's religious belief is simply where and when they were born. The decision for a particular god that someone might happen to worship seems to be somewhat arbitrary.
@ChrisHobeck 1) Well Epicurus was a wise man a philosopher and a scientist, he was asking a logical question to the men who wrote the bible and expected a logical answer back. Some have said religion is philosophical suicide, I personally just think we all need to understand each other and get along.
2) I've heard the resurrection story a million times before but it still isn't logical.
@Requiemxtoxinnocence I think Epicurus was before Christianity. His state was a paradoxical statement question the Gods of his day. He was more of a Deist who believed God does not interact with us.
@Stitchman3875 That doesn't mean his words can't apply to todays religions and gods. He was a materialist. Besides i've seen better sayings from philosophers than from most holy figures because they could think outside the box. Epicurus just saw gods as neutral forces not wrathful loving gods. But whatever... I won't impede your belief only question it.
@Requiemxtoxinnocence Well, according to many Christians...he is both willing and able...but they don't explain why he doesn't do anything. It would seem remarkably similar to him not even being there at all. There is another saying that goes something like this; "If logical arguments worked on religious people...then there wouldn't be any religious people.".
Hell's best kept secret is that we all die and get out of it on level 7, I believe. The whisper people or whatever said I was in Hell because I chose to love. Some make it to the mouth and are devoured and some make it to another ring of Hell. Heaven is actually death. If you commit suicide, you go to heaven in this dark age. All our desire is death.
Galatians says that we should have faith above the law 3:24-25 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. They imply that God's law is perfect. The regular law is for transgressions. I'm not a Christian, though I'm religious in an abstract way, and I could probably quote more than half of them because I wanted snacks growing up.
1) If you had any sincere desire to repent, you would repent now, b/c you would know that God deserves it. Also, you may not get the chance; many people die without any warning.
2) That's not true; God did forbid rape. See Deut 22:25-27.
3) Actually, no He doesn't. He calls those who willfully continue as slaves to sin, despite the mercy He offers them, fools. The Bible talks about self-respect, but w/ a diff word, pride, and it says God rejects the proud (James 4:6).
@ChrisHobeck Sorry, my comment was disrespectful! I was just venting! It bothers me when people, like those in the video, claim to know the mind of god. They don't!
In one part of the bible is says for at tribe to kill all men, women and children, expect the female children who have not known a man by sleeping with him. And to keep those girls for themselves. I don't understand this morality?
@ChrisHobeck Ahh, I was hoping you wouldn't ask! I don't own a bible so I can't go look for it. I think I got it from listening to Hitchens discussing the morality of the bible, and mentioning that passage as an example. I'm sorry I just don't feel like searching for it so disregard it since I'm not providing the source.
@ChrisHobeck I believe he is referring to Numbers 31...but there are many atrocities in the Bible which you should be well aware. For one thing you are supposed to kill all non-believers....not just try to convert them. If you are unsuccessful in the conversion then you are to immediately kill them...not just let them walk away.
Here are a couple examples with the verse numbers included.
@ChrisHobeck "And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6) (cont)
@ChrisHobeck "Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people."
"Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)
@moa373 You said "God is not immoral , He is perfect and Just my friends
the crucifixion is the example of his love to us"
That statement was filled with such a vast amount of effluvium that you have obviously been subjected to a religious 'disease' which inhibits your reason.
The biblical God is one of the most malevolent beings ever described in a book of fiction. His version of justice is for religious serial murderers to reside in heaven with Mother Theresa...READ YOUR DAMN BIBLE.
@ChrisHobeck it's wrong to worship anything but the absolute reality. We're in Hell because we wanted to simply love and love creates a world of delusion. We're being punished.
@GMTJ2 One of the descriptions for God is omniscience and this obviously includes the future. If we had free will then we could change the future and this would render God's description of omniscience invalid. God also supposedly knows our lives from beginning to end. So, again (for two reasons), we couldn't possibly have free will. Since this is the case, then it would appear that he planned for Atheists to question his existence and consequently to burn in hell for eternity.
@CynicalSkeptic1 Well just because he knew what you were going to choose doesnt mean he made you choose that path. You always have a choice. And yes he did know there would be athiests thats why he sent his son out of his love for your soul, even though he knew you would reject it
@GMTJ2 Sir, your comment makes absolutely no sense. An omniscient God knows what is going to happen long ahead of time. So, obviously he made all the Atheists and gave them inquisitive minds....all the time knowing that they would question his existence and go to hell. Simple enough?
wow dude your nuts what about the poor girl that got rapped in the first place I guess god dont care about her.why does she get punished for something she had no control over.
And you dont think that is evil I sure do force'in a victim to marry her rapist ..wow just wow
it wasnt so fair to her I agree. But what could you do about it? The old testament rules would only be temporary anyway until Jesus would come so we could have a good conscience. It would be weird if todays rapists would marry their victim
well, if he said that the raping rules would be used today now when Jesus died on the cross, yes he would be immoral, but luckily he didint say that, I really dont like it when people say they are "saved" when they dont do God's will or know anything about it. Jesus said; it will be hard for a man to be saved, and that not many will enter the kingdom of God. Such people are dilutional. I only know about 4 people that arent dilutional, including on TV, the rest are.
"But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, 'Why have you made me like this?' Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? (Romans 9:20-21)
"Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap." (Galatians 6:7)
I really agree that it sounds stupid if it was like that today, but on the old testament days, people were wicked, they didnt even have a good conscience so they would rape again and again. But today, people can have a good conscience thanks to Jesus. So I agree with what you say. I myself wouldnt mind raping girls hahaha xD
God is jst and not evil, only an evil judge doesnt even put someone to justice, if there is no law, the world will be full of chaos. It is not God that gets the money obviously.
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die.
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.
Rapists should learn not do rape so one he has he should marry her so he cannot commit adultery, makes sense to me. But without this logic it wouldnt make sense I agree.
ARE TYOU KIDDING ME so if someone rapes a girl she has to live with him marry him have his kids and you think that ..ok and that the guy punishment wow.Forgive me but thats just wrong.guess god really dropped the ball on that one
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
alltiedup217; your fist comment; all the people were wicked, including many Jews, I see nothing wrong with punishing the wicked, the land they have is useless for them anyway. Wouldnt you be mad if somebody raped your mother and burned down your house? Wouldnt you want to kill that person or atleast put him to justice? I wouldnt because both in the old testament and the new God said not to bear any grudge or have any revenge against others, its God's job.
Are you talking about the bible? If so I have some facts to give you. The bible is the most read book of all time, more copies of the bible are printed each year than all of the harry potter books combined, the bible has been translated into more languages than any other book, is the most stolen book of all time, most burned, and most banned book, and in fact in many countries people risk being thrown in jail or killed for owning even one page. So do you think this is still some silly book?
alltiedup217; with the knowledge you have about the bible, I dont blame you for believing that its a silly book, but you have just taken verses, some of which didnt exist and others that were true but you didnt read the connection with all those things, ask me the questions you have and I will answer them the best I can, I have many others too and I read the bible everyday including today so I know a lot.
no all of them are right out of the bible you may not want them to exist but they do.But ok here s one tell me how this is an all lov'in god.When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.Deuteronomy 20:10-14
If God was all that existed back then, what disturbed the eternal equilibrium and compelled him to create? Was he bored? Was he lonely? God is supposed to be perfect. If something is perfect, it is completeit needs nothing else. . If God is perfect, there can be no disequilibrium. There is nothing he needs, nothing he desires, and nothing he must or will do.
Thats assuming he feels those things like we humans do, and even if as you say if your definition of perfection is not needing anything else, is there any human on the face of the planet which does not need something, because if you say there is, lets put a gun to their head and ask if they need to live...Even God needs something..Love is a need and God is love.
its not my definition ..its the definition and wanting anything is imperfection and yes humans need love so are you sayin god is the same as us and bound by the same laws.
So if good need s something he is imperfect and therfore not the "perfect" god of the bible
i can refute the commandment/beer argument in about 5 seconds...
the simple fact of what was conveyed only proves that the ten commandments are useless in today's society. they asked people who are at the mall and don't come off as criminals about religion and beer and get these results proving the opposite of what they set out to prove. also, go into a shitty neighborhood and i promise you will find gang members openly worshiping jesus christ.
Jesus came to set another standard. He did not just give u the 10. He said if anyone who lust in the heart has committed adultery and if yr eyes cause u to sin, pluck it out.
These 2 jokers are lowering God's standard. If they are really for the God's High standard, they should be standing here blind now.
Somehow, people who fight to keep the 10 commandments are choosy also about which word and law of God is more convenient to keep.
simple old test. the jews would be removed from Isreal as a nation and brought back into this very land the result of ww2 the war of Gog and Maygog 7 day war. the churches that the followers of Christ stared most still stand. logic if there was no Christ there were no followers no followers no churches. these men saw something that changed their lives that they would die for most did history devided B.C and A.D. one man 3 years ministry effected all of history think about it
There is no such thing as an atheist all of you know there is a God becouse he ha written his law on your heart. The reason you won't admit it is becouse you enjoy your sin and to admit there is a God would mean you are wrong and would have to change becouse of it
actually there is no such thing as a christian, since for one to be a christian, you must be born again by the divinity of christ, and christ wasn't devine. :)
It's awfully convenient that they skip the part of the 4th commandment that says "the SEVENTH day" is the day of rest. I'm sure they'd say "That's a minor detail and God would never send someone to hell for that." Uh oh, I guess now they're idolaters by their own admission.
The seventh day (Saturday) is the Sabbath. There is no biblical defense of Sunday keeping, and that is because Sunday wasn't kept until the Pope changed the date in the 5th century.
(7:40) So, Kirk, do you love your god so much that it makes the love you have towards your wife and kids look like hatred? Do you love that god with such force that you'd kill them all one by one if your god told you to?
Excuse me? Does the name Abraham ring any bells? God instructed him to kill his son, and Abraham didn't think twice. He was absolutely ready to kill his son, simply because his god told him to. It does not matter that god stopped him at the last second, that is not the point of the story. The point is to have blind, unthinking servitude towards a god that demands you do whatever he tells you to. The question remains: Kirk, would you kill your entire family if your god told you to?
Maybe you could go to one of their conferences and ask him yourself.
But their is a question your comment brings up: You seem to imply that you take the story of Abraham as literal and historical fact (i.e., you say definitively that God did instruct him to kill Isaac). Does that mean you treat the rest of Genesis the same way? ;-)
I would ask them in person in a heartbeat. No, I don't take the Abraham story as literal and historical fact, but you do, and I was posing it to you as a challenge to follow suit with what your god asked of Abraham. I don't think it ever actually happened, I mentioned it for the sake of argument. I can sing Christmas carols without believing in Santa. Will you answer the question? If your god told you to kill your family, whatever his reason may be, would you?
So a father who leaves a note on the fridge, written in someone else's handwriting, who never shows up for birthdays, never tucks you in, never even shows his face... this is a good father figure? He showed up and talked with his first couple of children, then dictated a note to his future offspring and then vanished? That note is supposed to be enough for the many kids that follow? I'm sorry but that is the action of a terrible father.
You're seriously arguing that is NOT the action of a terrible father? Would you love your own father if he behaved like that? If you were the 3rd of 12 children and your father was only ever around for kids 1 and 2, then skipped town leaving nothing but a note, that would be OK with you? My morals come from the society I live in, what we collectively decide works best and suits our needs. If you are gonna claim morals come from a god you are going to have to first prove that god exists.
We don't have to. The books of prophecy and the fact that EVERY prophecy in the Bible has come true (except the latter day Judgment prophecies) is proof positive that the Bible is true. The statistical probability that all these prophecies happened by random chance is even more laughably remote than the statistical probability that we evolved from rock soup.
OK, MentorOfMinos, I'm giving you an opportunity to give me a mere 3 prophecies that were predicted in the Bible and then came true OUTSIDE of the Bible; in other words, show me 3 things from the Bible that can be verified by post-Biblical history. I don't give any credence to "Old Test. says this, and New Test. proves it;" that's like saying "Star Wars 2 has things that were referenced in Star Wars 1." Please give me something solid and unambiguous, something I CAN'T easily argue against.
OK, here's a test I'd put to any Christian: In addition to the god of the bible there are thousands of other gods that people have claimed to believe in. Can you name 10 of them?
GOD'S LAW IS OVER 800 PAGES WRITTEN WITH THE ECUMENICAL SYNODS, IS CALLED "ΠΗΔΑΛΙΟΝ" holy canons and is written in greek. THERE IS A TRANSLATION IN ENGLISH FOR WHOMEVER WANTS TO SAVE THEIR SOUL. IS GIVEN TO THE GENUINE CHRISTIAN ORTHODOX PRIESTS TO HELP THEM WITH THE CONFESSION.
ah ha, yes, it is crafted by the hands of men, yet it is crafted from the GIFTS OF THE CREATOR. Just like a man's house was crafted by him, yet was made from the GIFTS OF THE CREATOR.
I'm not condoning alcohol, because the only reason it was invented was to take focus away from the true plant teachers, but I'm just saying. And the "bible" was not "crafted by the lord of eternity"...it was crafted by WICKED men. Religion and the WYRDS of religion have circumvented the TRUE CREATORS MESSAGE! Seek
Evveryone knows when they are guilty when God convicts them, up till then they are in delusion about themselves. Man cannot convict man only God can convict man. Hell is not in the bible, in hebrew it was called sheol, not the word hades from greek is not Jewish. He said I did not come to judge the world so what are you talking about. this is the main reason no one wants to hear this, turn and burn theology form the holiness preachers is dead, God will restore his people not condemn them
Be sure to go on their site and buy the $100 course. These are the farthest thing from Christians possible. They are using religion as a means to scare people into giving them money. Trust me that they do not believe what they are pitching.
dead soldier, the Bible says to be thankful in every thing, yes it's hard to accept that many people dying because of war, but we also need to understand that is one of the sign that Jesus Christ is coming back.
God damnit, you are dense. So, we should send soldier off to war because it's OKAY to die? We shouldn't try to fix the world because CHRIST IS COMING BACK? You are spineless. You are too spineless to question your religion because you're afraid of HELL! How about stop putting your head in the sand and actually try contributing something to the world?
you crazy christian fuckheads, religions a fucking stupid thing in the world, all it causes war *crusades*, judgement of people *thank god for dead soldiers* and the fact that some mother fucker siting in rome collects all charity and live of what you stupid fucks think is true. go kill yourselves
I do not, nor will I ever, thank God for dead soldiers. I am in awe of the price they paid to defend my freedom, but I abhor death.
I do not, nor will I ever, support or follow the Pope.
Christianity has created hundreds of schools, and hospitals. Humanism, in the guises of facism and communism, is responsible for the deaths of many millions more than Christianity.
If your username is any indication, you are in the military yourself. I thank you for your service, and will pray for you.
Stalin who enforced atheism murdered more people than Hitler in non-war related atrocities. Think about that. During peace time Stalin's murders were 29-65 million. In comparison, Hitler's murders in peace time were only 11 million.
Here's one commandment that christians break on a daily basis: "Thou shall have no other gods 'before' me, Yahweh." Christians pray to Jesus and not to Yahweh. In fact 99.9% of christians, if asked, would not know what Jesus' father's name is? How 'bout dem apples? Catholics take it one step further and pray to Mary and the saints before they would pray to Yahweh. I have a feeling that christianity is not Yahweh's favourite religion.
And, I love the commandment "Thou shall not kill". This should be known as the 'commandment with many amendments' (Thou shall not kill except in this, this, that, this, that, that and this instance when it's deemed necessary or even good to do so.
After Creation in a perfect sinless world God established the 7th Day and decreed it as Holy.
(there were no Jews yet!) Then He includes it in the Moral Law and says"REMEMBER", the only commandment to highlight this. Jesus says that He did not come to do away with it but to comply fully even in the tomb. If a Sabbath is to be selected to observe it would be stupid to choose any other day.
People were twisting Paul's writings, distorting those writings. 2 Peter 3:16 ...which [those who are] untaught and unstable...twist to their own destruction...
"Her priests have violated My law, and have profaned Mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from My Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them," (Ezekiel 22:26, Holy Name Bible).
When they mentioned the 4th Commandment Remember the 7th day to keep it Holy they, lied and hid this truth by saying one day out of 7 to allow the pagan 1st day Sunday as a sabbath instead.
Actually, Colossians 2 and Romans 14 show quite clearly that it doesn't matter what day it is, so long as there is one day: "One man esteems one day, another man esteems another. Let each be fully convinced in their own mind."
In other words the ten commandments has been updated? Really? I think that arguement falls flat since your interpretation of Colossians and Romans is distorted. Can you be rightiteous if you're not following the 7th Day as stated in the 10 Commandment especially since it says Remember the 7th day not Remember the Sabath day. If it doesnt matter which day you offer unto the Lord then if you love Him above all things stick with the origninal 7th day... Why take chances...
It's not an interpretation, it's the plain reading of the text:
Romans 14:5-6a: "One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord."
Colossians 2:16: "Let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath."
Why is Sabbath-keeping is the only of the 10Cs not repeated in the NT?
Ray Comfort: "God Resists the proud and gives to the humble", ie. God resists the rational person who can weigh evidence from both sides and sets his sites on the uninformed person who believes everything he/she hears.
Grimm, this video is 100% accurate. The analogies are perfect. God is completely glorified by this four piece video set. This video set has radically changed my life for God. I fully support and stand behind these two guys. I am praying for you bro! God Bless you man!
And what does that say for you and what you are seemingly trying to make readers here think about what you supposidly believe? Just your time spent here, talking about this video and postings, and even mentioning God Himself. Even if to come off as negative, proves you CARE enough to be here and GOD is on your mind....so much for "pretend" and "playtime at recess."
Many modern versions of the Bible have been maticulously translated into English (and many other languages) from their original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic texts? Are there twisted versions out there? Most assuredly. But with the right research and a few bucks, you can find yourself a translation that echoes its original form.
mrbees.... I have no argument to take up with God but with only humanity also I do not feel the need or want to take the Bible as the literally word of God... cause if I did then I would be a walking, talking contradiction. Too many changes by too many people over the centuries...Hence the reason why so many scriptures contradict each other. Oh and by the way I'm a Buddhist .
I have to agree with you that the reason most people don't want to take the bible for it's word is because the bible points out that most people are living life the way "they" want to live. And as far as contradictions sure a book that old written by that many different authors interpreted many times would have some..By the way. I am a Christian.
What that sounds like an oxi morron! What's the Challenge, even if God wrote His hand writting on the wall for you, you still wouldn't believe. It is foolishness for you to believe, for the Fool says in His heart there is no God. Why don't you take your argument up with God considering He hold's His Word above His own name.
Here's a challenge... Find and proved evidence of the true word of God in the Bible.
Yes... this is a trick question cause neither you or I can prove the words are form God, why... cause the Bible over the centuries has been change and twisted by Pope's, Kings, Queens, Priests and many others.
And yet I will back up my words with real money. I am the $5,000 man. I will give you or anyone money if you can prove that the bible is not Gods word. You can't because you have to wait till you die to ask him.
Historians have already provided an ampule amount of evidence that the current Bible (regardless of version) has been changed by various church leaders, Kings, Queens and social groups through the centuries. Due to all these changes NO ONE can provide any sort of evidence that specific scriptures, chapters or entire gospels are 100% the word of God. The current Bible you read is tainted, think about it, how many "current" or "past" versions have been discarded and changed? It's almost endless!
1. God is satisfied with his works Gen 1:31 God is dissatisfied with his works. Gen 6:6 2. God dwells in chosen temples 2 Chron 7:12,16 God dwells not in temples Acts 7:48 3. God dwells in light Tim 6:16 God dwells in darkness1 Kings 8:1/ Ps 18:11/Ps God is invisible and cannot be heardJohn 1:18/John 5:37 Ex 33:20/1 Tim 6:16
I'll ask you the same question I asked on the Part 2 video, which you have yet to respond to: If I were to answer this question, would you genuinely humble yourself, repent of your sins, and surrender to Jesus as Lord and Savior?
1 Tim 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen
1 Kings 8:1
Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the chief of the fathers of the children of Israel, unto king Solomon in Jerusalem, that they might bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of the city of David, which is Zion.
Any true historian knows that the Bible is one of the few historical documents that HAS NOT changed over time. Its the same today as it was 2000 years ago. If you want someone to take you seriously it helps to know a little about what you preach..
IamTheWay - If you believe this stuff, Jesus was still a child 2000 years ago. You don't need a true historian to tell you the gospels could not even have existed 2000 years ago.
The Dead Sea Scrolls clearly indicate the Bible is a selection of early Christian writings. Why were some included and others left out ?
sick.I really hope one day ..you decide to try to see outside that book.That small mind frame does not respect other people & their believes.Holy books have been written & twisted by men by men.Let go of the book look at the world.Open your minds ,ask questions learn from different places.
So, you are respecting me by calling me "sick" and saying that I have a "small mind frame"? How is that having an open mind towards the claims of Christianity?
i don't think red bull is a beer?
RBHILL300 11 months ago
I.....I think I have a disease....... I think I'm suffering from..... GROWING PAINS.
Zegeebwah 1 year ago
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
then why call him god.
- epicurus
Requiemxtoxinnocence 1 year ago
@Requiemxtoxinnocence 1) If you reject the Bible because it was written by men, then why do you accept that quote, since it was written by a man?
2) Every evildoer will stand before God to give an account. The problem is, we are all evildoers in His sight. To demonstrate His mercy, He made a way of escape by Jesus Christ's death and resurrection. He now commands that your response is to repent of your sins and trust in Him.
ChrisHobeck 1 year ago
@ChrisHobeck
Not only was the bibull written by human beings, it was written by anonymous, (obviously) highly superstitious human beings with zero scientific knowledge of this world/Universe - does it sound like a good idea to trust their judgment? Furthermore; the bibull was edited by human beings (Constantine & co), was/is published by human beings (for profit...) & in the end is read by delusional humans.
And why exactly does your omnipotent invisible sky-daddy need an editor & a publisher?
atrumira 1 year ago
@ChrisHobeck How do you know Jesus is the 'one' true God? There have been innumerable gods throughout the ages and the main reason for most people's religious belief is simply where and when they were born. The decision for a particular god that someone might happen to worship seems to be somewhat arbitrary.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@ChrisHobeck 1) Well Epicurus was a wise man a philosopher and a scientist, he was asking a logical question to the men who wrote the bible and expected a logical answer back. Some have said religion is philosophical suicide, I personally just think we all need to understand each other and get along.
2) I've heard the resurrection story a million times before but it still isn't logical.
Requiemxtoxinnocence 10 months ago
@Requiemxtoxinnocence I think Epicurus was before Christianity. His state was a paradoxical statement question the Gods of his day. He was more of a Deist who believed God does not interact with us.
Stitchman3875 9 months ago
@Stitchman3875 That doesn't mean his words can't apply to todays religions and gods. He was a materialist. Besides i've seen better sayings from philosophers than from most holy figures because they could think outside the box. Epicurus just saw gods as neutral forces not wrathful loving gods. But whatever... I won't impede your belief only question it.
Requiemxtoxinnocence 9 months ago
@Requiemxtoxinnocence I was just correcting you on Epicurus challenging the Bible as he lived well before the Bible was written.
Stitchman3875 9 months ago
@Requiemxtoxinnocence Well, according to many Christians...he is both willing and able...but they don't explain why he doesn't do anything. It would seem remarkably similar to him not even being there at all. There is another saying that goes something like this; "If logical arguments worked on religious people...then there wouldn't be any religious people.".
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
DMT is freaky.
returnoftheramble3 1 year ago
Hell's best kept secret is that we all die and get out of it on level 7, I believe. The whisper people or whatever said I was in Hell because I chose to love. Some make it to the mouth and are devoured and some make it to another ring of Hell. Heaven is actually death. If you commit suicide, you go to heaven in this dark age. All our desire is death.
returnoftheramble3 1 year ago
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Galatians says that we should have faith above the law 3:24-25 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. They imply that God's law is perfect. The regular law is for transgressions. I'm not a Christian, though I'm religious in an abstract way, and I could probably quote more than half of them because I wanted snacks growing up.
returnoftheramble3 1 year ago
fear
ezelouie 1 year ago
mindless gibberish
TheGodlessGuitarist 1 year ago
No one cares about YAHEWH anymore! FUCK OFF
Pablo113 1 year ago
People know more about beer because beer is real :P
JackieEaux 1 year ago
Why not just repent on your deathbed, instead of wasting one's life on your gibberish?
Why didn't god forbid rape and childmolestation in his commandments?
Does god really respect people who act slavishly and relinquish their self-respect?
ekorre33 1 year ago
@ekorre33
1) If you had any sincere desire to repent, you would repent now, b/c you would know that God deserves it. Also, you may not get the chance; many people die without any warning.
2) That's not true; God did forbid rape. See Deut 22:25-27.
3) Actually, no He doesn't. He calls those who willfully continue as slaves to sin, despite the mercy He offers them, fools. The Bible talks about self-respect, but w/ a diff word, pride, and it says God rejects the proud (James 4:6).
ChrisHobeck 1 year ago
@ChrisHobeck Sorry, my comment was disrespectful! I was just venting! It bothers me when people, like those in the video, claim to know the mind of god. They don't!
In one part of the bible is says for at tribe to kill all men, women and children, expect the female children who have not known a man by sleeping with him. And to keep those girls for themselves. I don't understand this morality?
ekorre33 1 year ago
@ekorre33 Out of curiousity, which passage are you talking about? I don't remember that specifically.
ChrisHobeck 1 year ago
@ChrisHobeck Ahh, I was hoping you wouldn't ask! I don't own a bible so I can't go look for it. I think I got it from listening to Hitchens discussing the morality of the bible, and mentioning that passage as an example. I'm sorry I just don't feel like searching for it so disregard it since I'm not providing the source.
ekorre33 1 year ago
@ChrisHobeck I believe he is referring to Numbers 31...but there are many atrocities in the Bible which you should be well aware. For one thing you are supposed to kill all non-believers....not just try to convert them. If you are unsuccessful in the conversion then you are to immediately kill them...not just let them walk away.
Here are a couple examples with the verse numbers included.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
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@ChrisHobeck "And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6) (cont)
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@ChrisHobeck "Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people."
"Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
it seems like its almost impossible to witness to people on youtube...
claptonstratgreen1 1 year ago
God is not immoral , He is perfect and Just my friends
the crucifixion is the example of his love to us
moa373 1 year ago
@moa373 You said "God is not immoral , He is perfect and Just my friends
the crucifixion is the example of his love to us"
That statement was filled with such a vast amount of effluvium that you have obviously been subjected to a religious 'disease' which inhibits your reason.
The biblical God is one of the most malevolent beings ever described in a book of fiction. His version of justice is for religious serial murderers to reside in heaven with Mother Theresa...READ YOUR DAMN BIBLE.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
people care more about beer, get used to it.
fgbr345 2 years ago
It is a sin to care for anything more than the One True God of the Bible, Jesus Christ.
ChrisHobeck 1 year ago
.....and beer. lol
fgbr345 1 year ago
@ChrisHobeck it's wrong to worship anything but the absolute reality. We're in Hell because we wanted to simply love and love creates a world of delusion. We're being punished.
returnoftheramble3 1 year ago
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SomeFunkyDude79 1 year ago
@SomeFunkyDude79 .lol
fgbr345 1 year ago
Sweeeet jesus save us!!!!!!!!!!
We need your holy-hand on the job!!!!!
Give us each a hand-job jesus!!!!!!!!!
atrumira 2 years ago
@atrumira thats straight blasphemy and im praying that God enlightens the eyes of your heart
GMTJ2 1 year ago
@GMTJ2 One of the descriptions for God is omniscience and this obviously includes the future. If we had free will then we could change the future and this would render God's description of omniscience invalid. God also supposedly knows our lives from beginning to end. So, again (for two reasons), we couldn't possibly have free will. Since this is the case, then it would appear that he planned for Atheists to question his existence and consequently to burn in hell for eternity.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@CynicalSkeptic1 Well just because he knew what you were going to choose doesnt mean he made you choose that path. You always have a choice. And yes he did know there would be athiests thats why he sent his son out of his love for your soul, even though he knew you would reject it
GMTJ2 10 months ago
@GMTJ2 Sir, your comment makes absolutely no sense. An omniscient God knows what is going to happen long ahead of time. So, obviously he made all the Atheists and gave them inquisitive minds....all the time knowing that they would question his existence and go to hell. Simple enough?
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
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atrumira 2 years ago
These vids are a MUST SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dalynca 2 years ago
wow dude your nuts what about the poor girl that got rapped in the first place I guess god dont care about her.why does she get punished for something she had no control over.
And you dont think that is evil I sure do force'in a victim to marry her rapist ..wow just wow
alltiedup217 2 years ago
it wasnt so fair to her I agree. But what could you do about it? The old testament rules would only be temporary anyway until Jesus would come so we could have a good conscience. It would be weird if todays rapists would marry their victim
MrBlahOfTheFire 2 years ago
so you agree god is immoral
alltiedup217 2 years ago
well, if he said that the raping rules would be used today now when Jesus died on the cross, yes he would be immoral, but luckily he didint say that, I really dont like it when people say they are "saved" when they dont do God's will or know anything about it. Jesus said; it will be hard for a man to be saved, and that not many will enter the kingdom of God. Such people are dilutional. I only know about 4 people that arent dilutional, including on TV, the rest are.
MrBlahOfTheFire 2 years ago
"But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, 'Why have you made me like this?' Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? (Romans 9:20-21)
"Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap." (Galatians 6:7)
ChrisHobeck 2 years ago
@ChrisHobeck Yeah yeah, I'm doing it anyway. If your God can't answer a simple question, then I can conclude that it's not real.
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
it is man that made the laws and i like how we deal with rapists WAAAAAAy better than gods plan god blows.
alltiedup217 2 years ago
I really agree that it sounds stupid if it was like that today, but on the old testament days, people were wicked, they didnt even have a good conscience so they would rape again and again. But today, people can have a good conscience thanks to Jesus. So I agree with what you say. I myself wouldnt mind raping girls hahaha xD
MrBlahOfTheFire 2 years ago
so only god can be immoral unjust and evil..got it grweat god ya got there ..so much for the all loving.
And for rape god only wants money as I pointed out to you
alltiedup217 2 years ago
God is jst and not evil, only an evil judge doesnt even put someone to justice, if there is no law, the world will be full of chaos. It is not God that gets the money obviously.
MrBlahOfTheFire 2 years ago
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die.
alltiedup217 2 years ago
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.
alltiedup217 2 years ago
Rapists should learn not do rape so one he has he should marry her so he cannot commit adultery, makes sense to me. But without this logic it wouldnt make sense I agree.
MrBlahOfTheFire 2 years ago
ARE TYOU KIDDING ME so if someone rapes a girl she has to live with him marry him have his kids and you think that ..ok and that the guy punishment wow.Forgive me but thats just wrong.guess god really dropped the ball on that one
alltiedup217 2 years ago
Would it be better if he went to prison and raped again? If he commited adultery he should be stoned. So which one is better do you think?
MrBlahOfTheFire 2 years ago
I will answer the other questions too, l'll just read the whole chapter first
MrBlahOfTheFire 2 years ago
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
alltiedup217 2 years ago
alltiedup217; your fist comment; all the people were wicked, including many Jews, I see nothing wrong with punishing the wicked, the land they have is useless for them anyway. Wouldnt you be mad if somebody raped your mother and burned down your house? Wouldnt you want to kill that person or atleast put him to justice? I wouldnt because both in the old testament and the new God said not to bear any grudge or have any revenge against others, its God's job.
MrBlahOfTheFire 2 years ago
maybe these guys would have more luck try'in to seel Amway
alltiedup217 2 years ago
and you made your point not many people read your silly book even tho im sure they will say they belive in god
alltiedup217 2 years ago
Are you talking about the bible? If so I have some facts to give you. The bible is the most read book of all time, more copies of the bible are printed each year than all of the harry potter books combined, the bible has been translated into more languages than any other book, is the most stolen book of all time, most burned, and most banned book, and in fact in many countries people risk being thrown in jail or killed for owning even one page. So do you think this is still some silly book?
freespeachrulez 2 years ago
yes I do
alltiedup217 2 years ago
alltiedup217; with the knowledge you have about the bible, I dont blame you for believing that its a silly book, but you have just taken verses, some of which didnt exist and others that were true but you didnt read the connection with all those things, ask me the questions you have and I will answer them the best I can, I have many others too and I read the bible everyday including today so I know a lot.
MrBlahOfTheFire 2 years ago
no all of them are right out of the bible you may not want them to exist but they do.But ok here s one tell me how this is an all lov'in god.When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.Deuteronomy 20:10-14
alltiedup217 2 years ago
and as far as the sold the most copyied the most more than harry potter The koran is a close 2nd but I bet you think that book is silly
alltiedup217 2 years ago
If God was all that existed back then, what disturbed the eternal equilibrium and compelled him to create? Was he bored? Was he lonely? God is supposed to be perfect. If something is perfect, it is completeit needs nothing else. . If God is perfect, there can be no disequilibrium. There is nothing he needs, nothing he desires, and nothing he must or will do.
alltiedup217 2 years ago
So, let me see if I can figure out your argument:
1) There seems to be no explanation as to why the God of the Bible would want to create the universe.
2) Therefore, God doesn't exist.
ChrisHobeck 2 years ago
Thats assuming he feels those things like we humans do, and even if as you say if your definition of perfection is not needing anything else, is there any human on the face of the planet which does not need something, because if you say there is, lets put a gun to their head and ask if they need to live...Even God needs something..Love is a need and God is love.
freespeachrulez 2 years ago
its not my definition ..its the definition and wanting anything is imperfection and yes humans need love so are you sayin god is the same as us and bound by the same laws.
So if good need s something he is imperfect and therfore not the "perfect" god of the bible
thnakx for missing the point
alltiedup217 2 years ago
jesus was a fat ugly retarded gay guy with an afro!
sonofjaybirdswind 2 years ago
i can refute the commandment/beer argument in about 5 seconds...
the simple fact of what was conveyed only proves that the ten commandments are useless in today's society. they asked people who are at the mall and don't come off as criminals about religion and beer and get these results proving the opposite of what they set out to prove. also, go into a shitty neighborhood and i promise you will find gang members openly worshiping jesus christ.
idiots.
toolegit2quittttt 2 years ago
god a is a black woman and her name is Eris
hail Eris, hail Discordia
ourorboros2 2 years ago
Jesus came to set another standard. He did not just give u the 10. He said if anyone who lust in the heart has committed adultery and if yr eyes cause u to sin, pluck it out.
These 2 jokers are lowering God's standard. If they are really for the God's High standard, they should be standing here blind now.
Somehow, people who fight to keep the 10 commandments are choosy also about which word and law of God is more convenient to keep.
Redtide 2 years ago
This four video series is very good! I encourage everyone to listen to them all.
Greysonsoap 2 years ago
simple old test. the jews would be removed from Isreal as a nation and brought back into this very land the result of ww2 the war of Gog and Maygog 7 day war. the churches that the followers of Christ stared most still stand. logic if there was no Christ there were no followers no followers no churches. these men saw something that changed their lives that they would die for most did history devided B.C and A.D. one man 3 years ministry effected all of history think about it
eveneight09 2 years ago
There is no such thing as an atheist all of you know there is a God becouse he ha written his law on your heart. The reason you won't admit it is becouse you enjoy your sin and to admit there is a God would mean you are wrong and would have to change becouse of it
eveneight09 2 years ago 2
actually there is no such thing as a christian, since for one to be a christian, you must be born again by the divinity of christ, and christ wasn't devine. :)
elea1885 2 years ago
What do you think they would think of me getting a second opinion of their diagnosis from Islam or Wicca?
Echo5joker 2 years ago
Hell`s best kep secret is BULLSHIT.
Philos2006 2 years ago
It's awfully convenient that they skip the part of the 4th commandment that says "the SEVENTH day" is the day of rest. I'm sure they'd say "That's a minor detail and God would never send someone to hell for that." Uh oh, I guess now they're idolaters by their own admission.
The seventh day (Saturday) is the Sabbath. There is no biblical defense of Sunday keeping, and that is because Sunday wasn't kept until the Pope changed the date in the 5th century.
MentorOfMinos 2 years ago
(7:40) So, Kirk, do you love your god so much that it makes the love you have towards your wife and kids look like hatred? Do you love that god with such force that you'd kill them all one by one if your god told you to?
worldsworstjukebox 2 years ago
I highly doubt he would, as to do so would be to violate God's previously established dictates against murder.
ChrisHobeck 2 years ago
Excuse me? Does the name Abraham ring any bells? God instructed him to kill his son, and Abraham didn't think twice. He was absolutely ready to kill his son, simply because his god told him to. It does not matter that god stopped him at the last second, that is not the point of the story. The point is to have blind, unthinking servitude towards a god that demands you do whatever he tells you to. The question remains: Kirk, would you kill your entire family if your god told you to?
worldsworstjukebox 2 years ago
Maybe you could go to one of their conferences and ask him yourself.
But their is a question your comment brings up: You seem to imply that you take the story of Abraham as literal and historical fact (i.e., you say definitively that God did instruct him to kill Isaac). Does that mean you treat the rest of Genesis the same way? ;-)
ChrisHobeck 2 years ago
I would ask them in person in a heartbeat. No, I don't take the Abraham story as literal and historical fact, but you do, and I was posing it to you as a challenge to follow suit with what your god asked of Abraham. I don't think it ever actually happened, I mentioned it for the sake of argument. I can sing Christmas carols without believing in Santa. Will you answer the question? If your god told you to kill your family, whatever his reason may be, would you?
worldsworstjukebox 2 years ago
No, because God does not speak in that way any more, He speaks through His Bible.
ChrisHobeck 2 years ago
So a father who leaves a note on the fridge, written in someone else's handwriting, who never shows up for birthdays, never tucks you in, never even shows his face... this is a good father figure? He showed up and talked with his first couple of children, then dictated a note to his future offspring and then vanished? That note is supposed to be enough for the many kids that follow? I'm sorry but that is the action of a terrible father.
worldsworstjukebox 2 years ago
Why is that terrible? What is your moral standard that tells you that is terrible, and why is that standard a good one?
ChrisHobeck 2 years ago
You're seriously arguing that is NOT the action of a terrible father? Would you love your own father if he behaved like that? If you were the 3rd of 12 children and your father was only ever around for kids 1 and 2, then skipped town leaving nothing but a note, that would be OK with you? My morals come from the society I live in, what we collectively decide works best and suits our needs. If you are gonna claim morals come from a god you are going to have to first prove that god exists.
worldsworstjukebox 2 years ago
We don't have to. The books of prophecy and the fact that EVERY prophecy in the Bible has come true (except the latter day Judgment prophecies) is proof positive that the Bible is true. The statistical probability that all these prophecies happened by random chance is even more laughably remote than the statistical probability that we evolved from rock soup.
MentorOfMinos 2 years ago
OK, MentorOfMinos, I'm giving you an opportunity to give me a mere 3 prophecies that were predicted in the Bible and then came true OUTSIDE of the Bible; in other words, show me 3 things from the Bible that can be verified by post-Biblical history. I don't give any credence to "Old Test. says this, and New Test. proves it;" that's like saying "Star Wars 2 has things that were referenced in Star Wars 1." Please give me something solid and unambiguous, something I CAN'T easily argue against.
worldsworstjukebox 2 years ago
OK, here's a test I'd put to any Christian: In addition to the god of the bible there are thousands of other gods that people have claimed to believe in. Can you name 10 of them?
worldsworstjukebox 2 years ago
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shawty16 2 years ago
People who believe in hell deserve to go there.
majav15mg 2 years ago
"it's called idolatry".
James, Jimmy, bubba. Have you ever listened to yourself? Idolatry=religious zeal. You are breaking the 2nd commandment!
You are correct on one point. "It's all in your mind!!!!!!"
157626 3 years ago
This is heart-breaking.I'm going to put on sackcloth, heap ashes on my head and cry out to the god of Abraham ,Isaac and Jacob.
00clouds00 3 years ago
i only clicked this video because the thumbnail looks like Seethe Green
aaabattery4203 3 years ago
LOL the beer stuff is awesome
laguna117 3 years ago
What does a child actor do when he grows up and realizes that he has no talent and the television and film industries don't want him?
He becomes "christian" and makes it big in the "non-secular" entertainment insudtry.
deepwatertree 3 years ago
GREAT comment DWT! You ARE such a clear thinker. What did you think of their little "banana" analogy?
LPF767 3 years ago
I honestly didn't get that far HAHAHAH...no time for nonsense...
deepwatertree 3 years ago
The Law, the old covenant/deal, condemns. Found in the old testament.
God's Grace, the new covenant, forgives. found in the new testament
Both are found in 'The Bible'
All christens are priests. Priest: someone who represents god.
drewkitty 3 years ago
GOD'S LAW IS OVER 800 PAGES WRITTEN WITH THE ECUMENICAL SYNODS, IS CALLED "ΠΗΔΑΛΙΟΝ" holy canons and is written in greek. THERE IS A TRANSLATION IN ENGLISH FOR WHOMEVER WANTS TO SAVE THEIR SOUL. IS GIVEN TO THE GENUINE CHRISTIAN ORTHODOX PRIESTS TO HELP THEM WITH THE CONFESSION.
AMEN.
Metania01 3 years ago
Beer > the bible
nuf said!
quincyraven15 3 years ago
beer, is a distrction from the bible. How can an idol crafted by the hands of men (beer) be greater then the message crafted by the lord of eternity?
drewkitty 3 years ago
ah ha, yes, it is crafted by the hands of men, yet it is crafted from the GIFTS OF THE CREATOR. Just like a man's house was crafted by him, yet was made from the GIFTS OF THE CREATOR.
I'm not condoning alcohol, because the only reason it was invented was to take focus away from the true plant teachers, but I'm just saying. And the "bible" was not "crafted by the lord of eternity"...it was crafted by WICKED men. Religion and the WYRDS of religion have circumvented the TRUE CREATORS MESSAGE! Seek
deepwatertree 3 years ago
2 timothy3:16 says that all scripture is God inspired. as for alcohol read proverbs 20:1.
Goingforhisglory777 3 years ago
because of mans sinful nature. the heart of the man is wicked (jeremiah 17:9), out of it comes evil thoughts (matthew 15:19).
Goingforhisglory777 3 years ago
No more disturbing or murderous than the god of the blood cult called christianity.
Killer0fTheSun 2 years ago
I am a real American, Fight for the rights of every man,
I am a real American, fight for what's right, fight for your life!
wmtdv 3 years ago
Evveryone knows when they are guilty when God convicts them, up till then they are in delusion about themselves. Man cannot convict man only God can convict man. Hell is not in the bible, in hebrew it was called sheol, not the word hades from greek is not Jewish. He said I did not come to judge the world so what are you talking about. this is the main reason no one wants to hear this, turn and burn theology form the holiness preachers is dead, God will restore his people not condemn them
yearofglory 3 years ago
does god even exists? i heard that jesus was made up by the pope...
FrederickofAmerica 3 years ago
Then how can you explain verifiable early Roman documents which mention Him?
ChrisHobeck 3 years ago
Kirk's reading cue cards...Tsk Tsk!
nxzo2 4 years ago
well, that's what talentless hacks will do ;)
deepwatertree 3 years ago
Be sure to go on their site and buy the $100 course. These are the farthest thing from Christians possible. They are using religion as a means to scare people into giving them money. Trust me that they do not believe what they are pitching.
LtStarkiller 4 years ago
Why? Because you have to pay for a course?
theguyfromaustralia 3 years ago
Making money saving your eternal soul. Go for it douche.
LtStarkiller 3 years ago
Even the Old Testament Jewish priests were paid. How the fuck do you expect someone to live. Get a fucking life faggot.
theguyfromaustralia 3 years ago
Sounds like you need the help of this course! Good luck....mate.
LtStarkiller 3 years ago
dead soldier, the Bible says to be thankful in every thing, yes it's hard to accept that many people dying because of war, but we also need to understand that is one of the sign that Jesus Christ is coming back.
graspchoke 4 years ago
God damnit, you are dense. So, we should send soldier off to war because it's OKAY to die? We shouldn't try to fix the world because CHRIST IS COMING BACK? You are spineless. You are too spineless to question your religion because you're afraid of HELL! How about stop putting your head in the sand and actually try contributing something to the world?
JonathanClement140 4 years ago
While you are both entitled to make a comment on this vid, you have no right to call someone "spineless" without a just cause.
What have YOU contributed to this world?
theguyfromaustralia 3 years ago
You contribute more to the world than these guys if you do NOTHING. They are dangerous.
LtStarkiller 3 years ago
you crazy christian fuckheads, religions a fucking stupid thing in the world, all it causes war *crusades*, judgement of people *thank god for dead soldiers* and the fact that some mother fucker siting in rome collects all charity and live of what you stupid fucks think is true. go kill yourselves
354thMPcombat 4 years ago
I do not, nor will I ever, thank God for dead soldiers. I am in awe of the price they paid to defend my freedom, but I abhor death.
I do not, nor will I ever, support or follow the Pope.
Christianity has created hundreds of schools, and hospitals. Humanism, in the guises of facism and communism, is responsible for the deaths of many millions more than Christianity.
If your username is any indication, you are in the military yourself. I thank you for your service, and will pray for you.
ChrisHobeck 4 years ago
Stalin who enforced atheism murdered more people than Hitler in non-war related atrocities. Think about that. During peace time Stalin's murders were 29-65 million. In comparison, Hitler's murders in peace time were only 11 million.
cslreepicheep 4 years ago
Atheism was NOT the reason Stalin killed. And Catholicism was NOT what made Hitler kill. Both arguments are totally irrelevant.
plimbuff 4 years ago
Come to Jesus tonight
71Warrior4Jesus 4 years ago
Here's one commandment that christians break on a daily basis: "Thou shall have no other gods 'before' me, Yahweh." Christians pray to Jesus and not to Yahweh. In fact 99.9% of christians, if asked, would not know what Jesus' father's name is? How 'bout dem apples? Catholics take it one step further and pray to Mary and the saints before they would pray to Yahweh. I have a feeling that christianity is not Yahweh's favourite religion.
CerebralJazz85 4 years ago
And, I love the commandment "Thou shall not kill". This should be known as the 'commandment with many amendments' (Thou shall not kill except in this, this, that, this, that, that and this instance when it's deemed necessary or even good to do so.
CerebralJazz85 4 years ago
Jesus is God! what are you babbling about? But on the catholic part i agree with you.
ServantOfJesus 4 years ago
yahweh is not a religous being ,jesus wasnt big one religon also he preached about a kingdom
salvador36213 4 years ago
Sabbath was kept by Yahowah (Genesis 2:3, Hebrews 4:4);
by Yahshua
(Luke 4:16);
women believers
(Luke 23:55-56);
apostles and early believers
(Acts 15:21):
the apostle Paul for the gentiles
(Acts 17:2, Romans 11:13).
wagtec 4 years ago
After Creation in a perfect sinless world God established the 7th Day and decreed it as Holy.
(there were no Jews yet!) Then He includes it in the Moral Law and says"REMEMBER", the only commandment to highlight this. Jesus says that He did not come to do away with it but to comply fully even in the tomb. If a Sabbath is to be selected to observe it would be stupid to choose any other day.
wagtec 4 years ago
People were twisting Paul's writings, distorting those writings. 2 Peter 3:16 ...which [those who are] untaught and unstable...twist to their own destruction...
"Her priests have violated My law, and have profaned Mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from My Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them," (Ezekiel 22:26, Holy Name Bible).
wagtec 4 years ago
When they mentioned the 4th Commandment Remember the 7th day to keep it Holy they, lied and hid this truth by saying one day out of 7 to allow the pagan 1st day Sunday as a sabbath instead.
wagtec 4 years ago
Actually, Colossians 2 and Romans 14 show quite clearly that it doesn't matter what day it is, so long as there is one day: "One man esteems one day, another man esteems another. Let each be fully convinced in their own mind."
ChrisHobeck 4 years ago
In other words the ten commandments has been updated? Really? I think that arguement falls flat since your interpretation of Colossians and Romans is distorted. Can you be rightiteous if you're not following the 7th Day as stated in the 10 Commandment especially since it says Remember the 7th day not Remember the Sabath day. If it doesnt matter which day you offer unto the Lord then if you love Him above all things stick with the origninal 7th day... Why take chances...
wagtec 4 years ago
It's not an interpretation, it's the plain reading of the text:
Romans 14:5-6a: "One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord."
Colossians 2:16: "Let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath."
Why is Sabbath-keeping is the only of the 10Cs not repeated in the NT?
ChrisHobeck 4 years ago
Those people were very bad actors.
rjbonacolta 4 years ago
I can see where he's coming from. Good points people.
This is better produced than their last video, 'We are all sinners and are going to die.'
circlenumberseven 4 years ago
Ray Comfort: "God Resists the proud and gives to the humble", ie. God resists the rational person who can weigh evidence from both sides and sets his sites on the uninformed person who believes everything he/she hears.
DaveLl5 4 years ago
"Christians prey on poor old women's and slave's feeling of guilt to steal thei money" Julian the Apostate, 312 C.E.
laguna117 4 years ago
all this video does is make fun of people , kirk cameron can kiss it
GrimmGreen 5 years ago
Grimm, this video is 100% accurate. The analogies are perfect. God is completely glorified by this four piece video set. This video set has radically changed my life for God. I fully support and stand behind these two guys. I am praying for you bro! God Bless you man!
SoldiersArise01 5 years ago
oh wow... you are praying for me?? thanks!! I'm going to go get some hookers and do some blow... but you got my back right?
god is pretend
GrimmGreen 5 years ago
And what does that say for you and what you are seemingly trying to make readers here think about what you supposidly believe? Just your time spent here, talking about this video and postings, and even mentioning God Himself. Even if to come off as negative, proves you CARE enough to be here and GOD is on your mind....so much for "pretend" and "playtime at recess."
zoofariatl 4 years ago
When you here a gunshot, you know there is a gun, right? Any reasonnable person would do the same.
When you here thunder, it's just as reasonnable to realize that it cannot be mere chance, but Jupiter's wrath, Jupiter's gun shot.
laguna117 4 years ago
Are you a good person?
Did you sacrifice to Poseidon before travelling through the see? Did you bury your dead with 2$ to pay the travel to Hades?
Why wouldn't you do that? I just want to save you from torture! I just want to help you, with my parachute. Praise Jupiter in his might!
And yes, that's called false analogy and sophism, and that's what comfort does.
laguna117 4 years ago
Many modern versions of the Bible have been maticulously translated into English (and many other languages) from their original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic texts? Are there twisted versions out there? Most assuredly. But with the right research and a few bucks, you can find yourself a translation that echoes its original form.
videon8 5 years ago
mrbees.... I have no argument to take up with God but with only humanity also I do not feel the need or want to take the Bible as the literally word of God... cause if I did then I would be a walking, talking contradiction. Too many changes by too many people over the centuries...Hence the reason why so many scriptures contradict each other. Oh and by the way I'm a Buddhist .
TapMeOut 5 years ago
I have to agree with you that the reason most people don't want to take the bible for it's word is because the bible points out that most people are living life the way "they" want to live. And as far as contradictions sure a book that old written by that many different authors interpreted many times would have some..By the way. I am a Christian.
freespeachrulez 5 years ago
What that sounds like an oxi morron! What's the Challenge, even if God wrote His hand writting on the wall for you, you still wouldn't believe. It is foolishness for you to believe, for the Fool says in His heart there is no God. Why don't you take your argument up with God considering He hold's His Word above His own name.
mrbees 5 years ago
Here's a challenge... Find and proved evidence of the true word of God in the Bible.
Yes... this is a trick question cause neither you or I can prove the words are form God, why... cause the Bible over the centuries has been change and twisted by Pope's, Kings, Queens, Priests and many others.
Instead put your humanity before their religion!
TapMeOut 5 years ago
And yet I will back up my words with real money. I am the $5,000 man. I will give you or anyone money if you can prove that the bible is not Gods word. You can't because you have to wait till you die to ask him.
freespeachrulez 5 years ago
Historians have already provided an ampule amount of evidence that the current Bible (regardless of version) has been changed by various church leaders, Kings, Queens and social groups through the centuries. Due to all these changes NO ONE can provide any sort of evidence that specific scriptures, chapters or entire gospels are 100% the word of God. The current Bible you read is tainted, think about it, how many "current" or "past" versions have been discarded and changed? It's almost endless!
TapMeOut 5 years ago
1. God is satisfied with his works Gen 1:31 God is dissatisfied with his works. Gen 6:6 2. God dwells in chosen temples 2 Chron 7:12,16 God dwells not in temples Acts 7:48 3. God dwells in light Tim 6:16 God dwells in darkness1 Kings 8:1/ Ps 18:11/Ps God is invisible and cannot be heardJohn 1:18/John 5:37 Ex 33:20/1 Tim 6:16
alltiedup217 2 years ago
I'll ask you the same question I asked on the Part 2 video, which you have yet to respond to: If I were to answer this question, would you genuinely humble yourself, repent of your sins, and surrender to Jesus as Lord and Savior?
ChrisHobeck 2 years ago
1 Tim 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen
1 Kings 8:1
Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the chief of the fathers of the children of Israel, unto king Solomon in Jerusalem, that they might bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of the city of David, which is Zion.
I dont understand how you got those lies.
MrBlahOfTheFire 2 years ago
Any true historian knows that the Bible is one of the few historical documents that HAS NOT changed over time. Its the same today as it was 2000 years ago. If you want someone to take you seriously it helps to know a little about what you preach..
IamtheWayTruthLife 5 years ago
IamTheWay - If you believe this stuff, Jesus was still a child 2000 years ago. You don't need a true historian to tell you the gospels could not even have existed 2000 years ago.
The Dead Sea Scrolls clearly indicate the Bible is a selection of early Christian writings. Why were some included and others left out ?
digitaljez 5 years ago
sick.I really hope one day ..you decide to try to see outside that book.That small mind frame does not respect other people & their believes.Holy books have been written & twisted by men by men.Let go of the book look at the world.Open your minds ,ask questions learn from different places.
RAHJMASON 5 years ago
So, you are respecting me by calling me "sick" and saying that I have a "small mind frame"? How is that having an open mind towards the claims of Christianity?
ChrisHobeck 5 years ago
Anger is often a response to conviction of Sin. If a rock is tossed into a pack of dogs, the one who yelps is the one who got hit.
IamtheWayTruthLife 5 years ago