Fastball pitching mechanics High School

[litojonny]

other than the poor fielding position not bad

[Comment1st]

U rushed forward. Wait back

[troyhung333]

how hard do you throw?

[bangsnapsgalore]

heres my take. your arm is up when you land. you finish through the ball. your back leg fires forward indicating good leg drive. your front leg springboards at release point. id like to see you get a little lower on your back leg and hold that hip, a little longer while moving forward if that makes sense. thats it. you have pretty solid mechanics. wog and k10 once again. suck one.

[wogdoggy]

@bangsnapsgalore lol....keep trying nitwit...go look at some greats and see how they work the rubber..until then keep trying..and Lord knows keep side stepping and pulling your head of the target line and then bring it back to the target line...one thing i'd bet on,,you have a better future in so@@er

[bangsnapsgalore]

@wogdoggy seeing the target doesnt matter. i can close my eyes and hit the target 8/10 times. i know the "feel" of a strike. youre more compact with a tiny tiny side step. verlander, lincecum do it.

[wogdoggy]

@bangsnapsgalore keep your eyes closed and i'll pray for a comebacker you idiot..you havent even popped your first pimple yet kid..but i guess you are way too fucking smart to look at some footage of koufax or other greats..again if you want to pull ur head off target line and bring it back ,,DO IT,,and maybe DO IT with your eyes closed too...either way you'll probably be turning a wrench anyway so have fun and keep your eyes shut..LOL

[bangsnapsgalore]

@wogdoggy may i ask where you play? im actually 20 years old and play juco in region 10. which if im not mistaken is one of the best in the nation, and i played d1 baseball last year but wasnt a fan of the prior program which i was at. (UALBANY)

[wogdoggy]

@bangsnapsgalore ,,good for you..I wish you the best..heres a tip kid...LISTEN UP..take it all in and try it..if it doesnt work for you DISCARD it..at 53 years old i dont play much baseball..although i still enjoy playing catch with the kids and coaching,,at 53 years old i can still throw a FOOTBALL 60 yards in the air,,not bad for an old guy..my baseball days are now limited to an L screen and 30 feet of grass.

[bangsnapsgalore]

@wogdoggy the fact that you are 53 and on here arguing using expletives with 20 year olds about mechanics puzzles me. baseball is a sport of progression. i do listen and take it all in. which is why i have realized that you dont need to look if you have good mechanics. if you look at the greats to which you speak, they are in the past. baseball is ushering in a new era as far as pitching is concerned and with the lack of steroids, mechanics are paramount.

[wogdoggy]

@bangsnapsgalore if you listen to your last 2 sentences you will KNOW the value of looking at the old timers.they were awesome without the slow motion analysis of today.some of the old timers threw just as fast as these "studs" of today.a like a pitching motion that never jerks thats is always moving and fluid in the direction of the target..always moving is the key to longivty and consistency..

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[wogdoggy]

@bangsnapsgalore no video of yourself?

[bangsnapsgalore]

@wogdoggy coach did video about a week ago. supposed to send it to me soon. not sure if ill upload it. using it for the use of sending it to college coaches though.

[wogdoggy]

lhp sandy koufax rare sports films...wheres he stepping..how bout feller?

[bangsnapsgalore]

k10 and wog are idiots. 

[wogdoggy]

@bangsnapsgalore ..lol..you got nuthin.

[k10haholt]

there's no ONE way to pitch a baseball...thus you can't teach PITCHING! end of story

[yankeefan014]

You have great arm action, bracing of the front leg and great follow through....what's your velocity?

[7117hpr7117]

What's the "W"?? I don't see anything at 0:15

[kramer0810]

@7117hpr7117 The W is the form that both arms take to make the pitch...

The W is the most destructive mechanics as it wreck your arm, shoulderblade and maybe shoulder if you don't execute it alright.

By my part, I do the L, but i must say, the W is the mechanic what can do more explosive deliveries. the L are for curveballs and sliders, for me it is fine, i don't have velocity but i have pretty sick pitches. :)

Keep going ! :)

[chitalian16]

@kramer0810

if your refering the w to how low his arm gets and you say its wrong, your wrong. look at every major league pitcher and their arm goes down behing their butt and then gets picked up

[kramer0810]

@chitalian16 was refering about the high :), the low it would be sick lol xD no one could pitch more than 70 i think :P

[cfl990]

@chitalian16 i think he is reffering to when the elbow is higher than the shoulder when the arm is back as the inverted w which is a good way to put a lot of stress on the shoulder and elbow,but i do not see it in this guys mechanics

[monketizemecaptin]

Freeze it at 0:15. You have the W going on (Prior, Marcum, Reyes, etc.). You're going to wreck your arm if you don't fix that.

[wogdoggy]

@monketizemecaptin correct this kid shouldnt be worrying about his step IF he has the W..i cant tell from this video BUT you are 100 percent correct about that W being a potential game ender

[zschell510]

alright i been coaching for 5 years for varsity ball. your hips are opening up just a lil early. like you say like lincecum arm is coming up early. i teach pitchers to have a longer stride too. hold there arm back long an open hip later an use the front foot as a break speeds up you arm and hips. by about 5 mph

[byemaxii]

dont listen to them about stepping back. all you need to do is go hips first and use your lower body to be explosive. you are also flying open. you foot should be facing the right handed batters box when it lands and when your hips explode it will turn straight but not toward the left hand batter's box. arm is fluent and out in front. good body structure for a pitcher. nice man

[zblokhead]

to make your windup more explosive, try stepping straight back off of the rubber, because that creates a good torso angle. Once you step back your right foot should slide adjacent with the rubber, and your hips should be facing home plate. Then follow through with a delivery to home plate, everything else looks pretty good. And every little thing you do in you delivery matters, the arm is fluent with you body

[TDinda22]

the step doesnt control your whole windu-up, its just to start it.

[basebull]

I could care less where you step when you start your windup, but I think your mechanics look pretty solid. Keep working to get even more, as you say, "explosive".

[TheJamez10]

like stepping back really makes a difference it just throws you off balance

[SimpleStuff31]

step back not to the side

[xDRAVEx33]

some pitchers step back, most pitchers step to the side

[wogdoggy]

@xDRAVEx33 stepping to the side takes your head off target line and forces you to readjust sometime during the windup.. a small step straight back is always better

[xDRAVEx33]

@wogdoggy then why does about 90 % of MLB pitchers step to the side?

[wogdoggy]

@xDRAVEx33

cmon dave dont throw bullcarp numbers around..90 percent? is that right out you ass? if you want to step off to the side and pull your head target line thats up to you baby..if you want to baffle me with numbers you have work to do

[k10haholt]

@wogdoggy stepping backwards is not better...if you step straight backwards, when you put your dominant foot (pivot foot) in front of the rubber, the other foot which is now in back of you has to swing all the way around to the front of your body...that can cause you to lose your balance and essentially will force your momentum to be going in a different direction other than home plate....

basically if you make a small step to the side, it's less distance to have to move your leg..

[wogdoggy]

@k10haholt ok step off to the side pull your head off the target line get no momentum toward the target ..whatever works for you,,stepping to the side reqiures you to get your head back on line and misdirects your momentum...do what feels best for you..stepping to the side does nothing for you

[k10haholt]

@wogdoggy hence the turn SMALL step, keeping your head over your dominant foot....if that isn't too much trouble for your obviously uncoordinated body...then again you probably don't play baseball and if you do you're probably living in a fantasy world thinking that you're better than you are....however for me, i actually still play...probably see me on television this year sometime. thank you for trying though

[wogdoggy]

@k10haholt u crack me up kid..lol..you are like a dog that doesnt know sic em you jackwagon..sorry i wont see you on tv..i refuse to watch america's dumbest criminals caught on tape...i'm in fantasy world but we'll be seeing you on tv soon? lol

[k10haholt]

@wogdoggy i shall remember this username, and give it a shout out during an after game interview...make sure to watch college baseball during the spring..that is all... :)

[wogdoggy]

@k10haholt ,,college? on tv? let alone covering you? on the mound? with an interview? and then shouting out to me,,not MOM!..ok I'll take that action...LOL..good luck kid..throw em low and outside..

[k10haholt]

@wogdoggy low and outside...NO WAY...hard and in! that is my forte. But really, you watch any college baseball? (serious question)

[wogdoggy]

@k10haholt what team gave you a scholarship? I'll make SURE I watch.

[k10haholt]

@wogdoggy rather not say (to avoid stalking) sorry though. It is a school from Cali though.

[wogdoggy]

@k10haholt stalking???..who do you think you are Madonna?

[gahigalaba]

@wogdoggy you obviously never learned pitching mechanics from a proper professional coach. stepping in either direction will not help you gain momentum. stepping back gives you a false sense of driving forward, but doing that will let your hips slide forward way too early, not letting your arm catch up, and in turn, you wont be able to throw the ball out in front of your body. most of pitching happens over the rubber, where your hands seperate, and where your momentum starts (not behind you).

[wogdoggy]

@gahigalaba a body in a non stop fluid motion in the direction of the target is superior to a step away and off the target line..I never claimed a majority of the pitch happens behind the rubber you twit..i like the false sense of driving forward even though tou are driving forward,,next time i'll pinch myself

[cc0yne5]

balance. your follow through looks a little shaky.

[Gilb604]

no, no need to balance, momentum is forward, the finish should be in a forward fashion

[mikey7best]

noo actuallty this is to Gilb604 and cc0yne5 in my baseball team i pitch like A.J BurneTT and lincecum andd what u have to worry about is control

[Gilb604]

ur arm motion is like me; kind of pausing just right before the release.

[mikey7best]

yeaa i pausee when i put thee glovee on the left side of my arm pit juss like lincecum sort of

[Gilb604]

yeah recently i figured out why. its because the arm motion is late with the body. so all the power from the body is now generated to move the arm up not forward. that loses velocity.

[mikey7best]

yeaa it depends if ur arm is short plus i u sumerine pitch then ur qoiin even later because ur knee caps bend backk so thats like qoiin wayy latee u qet my point

[Gilb604]

submarine pitchers use a different arm motion and gets power from the energy by the forward motion of the knee.

and yes, if ur arm is short, u aint throwing hard.

[mikey7best]

lmaooo yupp ur right about that because my cousin thinks he can strike me out and hee hass about thee shortyest arm like the size of a laptop lol but yeaa submarinee pitchers are really better than default because when u throw a curve or a slider the ball breaks moree and can never hit the batter because it has more control on the leqq

[voodoo364]

ride your back leg down the hill and open your hips before your shoulders guaranteed extra 4 mph on your fastball. Keep it up kid you could go somwhere.

[Metxtremecodglitcher]

can u explain "ride your back leg down the hill for me

[Gilb604]

bend the back in ur follow through

[Gilb604]

what do u mean

[sucksamillion]

dropping your hands and u need to get balanced before you throw

[jordanuserhats2]

how fast is he pitching?

[crazyjbub]

idk

[Gilb604]

fast enough

[wecndo]

You need to get those mechanics hammered out. Do you notice that you do not even give your glove arm a chance to extend when you pitch the ball? Watch how far any major league pitcher gets the front arm out there and how long they stick it. If you can perfect that, you should be good to be.

[philliesfan333]

yea good eye.  your right if he kept his arm extended he would have better accuracy.

[Gilb604]

what do u mean

[SvNsEt]

This is extremely outdated and all, but Im fcommenting anyways. You seam to be falling too soon. You should be over your back leg until the ball is already out of your glove and almost at shoulder height, if you fall to early you will be wild. Also like other have said your falling off. This is bad because hes NOT a pro player. Scouts dont like this... Its dangerous, leaves less body control, and decreases velocity. I know this cause I used to do this and pro scouts told me I had to change it.

[Gilb604]

ur right. this can also lead to shoulder injuries. so did u get drafted?

[JDR0CKS]

Ok the fall staright forward stuff is outdated. Most pitchers in the majors fall off to the side. What you dont see is how quickley they assume a fielding position.

[SovietskiiSniper]

No doubt he has talent. At least numbers are still on my side; I'm telling everyoen over the net he will play for long and will play that nice for long, and nobody believes me because they don'T even have a clue on what is biomechanic. I'd say stop telling shit if you can't prove.

Using self impression and being stubborn isn'T an argumen; stats, physic laws and such are proofs.

[JCANELAKES]

Good extension = good fastball. Tim Lincecum isn't a good example to follow. You're falling off to the first base side, rather then ending up in a good fielding position. After you throw a pitch, you become a fielder. But, keep working and you'll get there!

[SovietskiiSniper]

Lincecum is the perfect pitcher and do you know why? You said it : all is in the stride. He is the only one,or so,striding at 120% of his body lenght.5'11" aout 165lbs and throwing near 100mph gas. He never felt sore arms and never iced his arm in his whole pitching life. It is said he can throw two full game in a row without any domage and he confirmed it,himself in person and so did his teamates. Althought he won't throw hard at end, his mechanics are perfect for his body: no pain,just power!

[Snarf15]

You read that sports illustrated article didn't you? By the way, Lincecum is a beast. I am from Seattle and I can't believe the crappy Mariners could have had them when he was pitching at U Dub.

[SovietskiiSniper]

No. I simply studied biomechanics of baseball pitching on my own, so I know a lot in pitching, probably more than all the coaches of your league. I can explain fro mtop to bottom why this move causes that, from where the problem comes from, how to fix it, etc.

any way, glad to see a Tim'S fan!

[seabrook1976]

Wow, you know more than all the coaches in his league? Holy crap. Dude, you're smart.

[SovietskiiSniper]

Lol. Laugh. I can prove my says while many of the mcan't. I add scientific proofs while many of them don'T evn know what's dynamic.

Many coaches give bad advises. But, hwo to find it? Proofs gives you an edge. If he cannot prove it, it might be false. This is why you add sources. I didn't wanted to fall in long explanations, but I can write you my whole 25pages at 12 times news to explain you how to pitch well, but I'd waste time and got a maximum number here...

[SovietskiiSniper]

He is a good example. This type of motions brings power with flexibility. Better for little man like him.

I won'T fall in details, but it acts like a slingshot.He use his body twist instead of leg power to torque it. of course he uses his leg to twist and push, but it takes more skills and less power liek this.

More suitabel for his body. This is where coaches fail: compability.

[wickedcurveball]

good mechanics, try to end your follow through as much to home plate as possible. your sorta swingin your back leg across your body. I had the same problem. Other than that, your mechanics look excellent!

[SovietskiiSniper]

..If yo umean falling more in front, it's physically impossible using this type of motion if you don'T want to slow down.

Newton's laws says you have to use energy to make something deviate from it'S trajectory.

If you change his course, not only he won'T generate enough power, but he'll have to waste some to end at center.

Lincecum also falls aside.

[raahr]

Lincum has 96-99 mph fastball. Lincum can fall to the ground like a javelin player if he wants. He'll still be a having a better defense with one half less of an an infielder.

[PitchingAcademy]

Great small step back allowing you to get in a better balanced position to explode toward home plate. You lead with your hips well and have a great stride! Keep up the good work.

[digitaldude6745]

that's what I like to hear! I love your mechanics dude. That had to be upper 80s it looks awesome. Bet you were a stud.

[HeavensDevils1]

you keep your shoulders level all the way through the delivery right?

[craw32]

I'm impressed. the goal is to get as much velocity out of your pitch while maintaining control. If it doesn't hurt and you're effective more power to you. It's all about exploding towards homeplate.

[mcgettrick17]

all you boys need to stop hatin on this kid, He has good explosive mechanics.... Thats it, he takes an idea from a very good pitcher such as lincecum and makes it into his own style. Nothing wrong with that at all. An i checked out this jay123321 kids profile, you try to be EXACLY like tim lincecum and thats why your messed up. You have no natural feel in our windup.

[samcar199]

sorry i meant dick mills

[willametay]

I think you look very smooth. It's hard to say too much with only a look at one pitch though. I'd like to see a shot from your arm side.

[ksufangarret]

you hide the ball well but you need more balance. when you get to the top of your leg kick you should be at a balance point.

[baseballbeast23]

no one can copy lincecums mechanics they are too unorthodox the only reason he is so good that way is because of his precision. i would like to say that this is probably the best mechanics i have seen at this level. if you are going to copy someones mechanics that are completely "flawless" i would say roy oswalt is probably the best

[lamont1881]

the unorthodoxness (...word?) is only half the reason. it's coupled with the fact that he has the athleticism of a gymnast and that gives him the way to use those unorthodox mechanics to be an absolutly amazing pitcher

[Jacobsen1118]

Lincecum extends his front arm out more than you do. Your's is in closer to your body. He also keeps his front shoulder on his target longer than you do.

[IndieArmy]

Need to work on your stop...specifically your front leg. Locking it like you do in the video will most likely lead to wear and injury on it later on.

[Jay21328]

I'm sorry I went back and looked and then saw Momentum pitching so I understand what he trying to do.

Are you dick mills followers?

[samcar199]

i am a dick mill follower

[Jay21328]

I noticed you tagged as lincecum, BUT you have do nothing that lincecum does. THere is not enough reverse rotation or hip rotation or tilt or dangling of the arm near the butt to decrease chance of muscling up on ball

[itsjustbeenrevoked]

did he say he was trying to copy lincecum's specific mechanics? no.

[losplatanosmaduro]

yea dats true but hes pretty gud lol