La de Hever tambien es muy cercana a Ana Bolena verdad? Es lo mas probable si fue encontrada en ese castillo. Mi favorita es la de Hever, sale tan linda. La de la galeria nacional de retratos tambien es bueno, pero Ana se ve mas fria en ese retrato
"I vote for Dorothy Tutin in 'The Six Wives of Henry VIII' miniseries, down to her deep, dark eyes and hair."
Oh, yeah! Tutin was a fine actress; she gives us Anne's intelligence and self-possession. (The superior script helps, too. "The Tudors" was so odd in that way: pandering to the youth demographic with one scene and sounding historically correct in the next.)
Very thought provoking discussion. I would imagine that Elizabeth would have had an accurate portrayal of Anne contained in the ring she wore. What bothers me in the Cheke rendering is that the hair appears somewhat blond!
Alas, it looks like my favorite portrait-the one in the National Gallery-is not an accurate rendering of Anne. Have to agree with you re: Hever. I think that is the closest we can hope to get, and it is quite a nice painting, as well.
@Cissy2cute I think the bit that looks like hair on the Holbein drawing that Cheke apparently identified as Anne is actually the trim or underpart of her hood/cap.
I also agree with you Claire. For me the Hever Portrait comes closest to how she really looked, so I think. I can't believe she had a swelling neck like in the Holbein portrait. We all know she wasn't likely to be the most prettiest woman a man at that time had ever seen, but she surely must have had some really strong and beautiful features, besides her excellent way to flirt with men, to bind a king to her. Interesting videoclip. I hope you will post more.
I agree s well. Good summery and to the point about Elizabeth. Note: when Elizabeth was a teenager, she actually lived with Sir Edward Denny and his wife, Margaret Edgecombe (Anne Boleyn's cousin) for several months after being caught with a married man...supposedly "kissing", perhaps more!
@cocatwoman7 - Sounds like you are talking about Elizabeth and Thomas Seymour. The very foolish Thomas seems to have forced his attentions on Elizabeth. I think the belief that they had a full blown affair is outlandish and totally out of character for the future queen. True they were caught kissing by Catherine Parr, but I don't think that Elizabeth was a really willing participant. In fact, good thing that Parr saw this, as she probably prevented something more disastrous happening.
@Cissy2cute well, we can guess where Thomas's "brains" were-lol. I don't believe they had a hot and heavy affair at all. "prevention" was the key and the rest...is history! Elizabeth had quite a head on her shoulders and I think she could never fully Trust a man. Look at all she witnessed in her youth-poor girl.
Excellent job, C.R.! The Hever portrait is certainly the most captivating; it blends a very feminine charm with a sense of wit and intelligence. More, more!
(What about a video tracing movie images of Anne? Dorothy Tutin is my favorite all-around Anne, and I find Vanessa Redgrave's the most charismatic. Dormer overdoes the seductress stuff, but that might be the director's fault. )
@2012Ursula -Thinking along those lines myself.! Interpretations of Anne through the various films either about her or in which she makes an appearance would be extremely interesting. Although I have nothing against the actress in "The Tudors" series (the less said about that the better), why they decided to go with someone with light eyes among other incorrect features is beyond me.
I vote for Dorothy Tutin in "The Six Wives of Henry VIII" miniseries, down to her deep, dark eyes and hair.
I agree with you Claire, when I think of Anne Boleyn I instantly think of the Hever image. All up, a great video, well researched with a pleasant smooth voice i could listen to for hours!
Very good video. Anne Boleyn's portraiture is a pet subject of mine and I too believe that the NPG/Hever face pattern is as close as we will get to an "idea" of her true appearance.
How about adding a video of more modern depictions of Anne for us to enjoy.
Elizabeth's household when she was growing up, and also when she became queen, consisted of many Boleyn relatives who would have told her about her mother. I don't believe that she thought Anne was guilty, I just think she thought it best not to draw attention to her illegitimate status and the fact that her mother was executed as a traitor, she had enough challenges to her throne as it was.
I've got a question: when Elizabeth became queen, did she do anything to restore her mother's innocence and reputation, and Katherine Howard, to whom she had a certain fondness? Or did she believe her Anne was guilty and deserved to die?Thank you.
La de Hever tambien es muy cercana a Ana Bolena verdad? Es lo mas probable si fue encontrada en ese castillo. Mi favorita es la de Hever, sale tan linda. La de la galeria nacional de retratos tambien es bueno, pero Ana se ve mas fria en ese retrato
TheLizzBlack 2 weeks ago
I think I prefer the Hever castle portrait. It's, well, the prettiest one. :)
vivelhistoire 1 month ago
@Cissy2cute
"I vote for Dorothy Tutin in 'The Six Wives of Henry VIII' miniseries, down to her deep, dark eyes and hair."
Oh, yeah! Tutin was a fine actress; she gives us Anne's intelligence and self-possession. (The superior script helps, too. "The Tudors" was so odd in that way: pandering to the youth demographic with one scene and sounding historically correct in the next.)
2012Ursula 5 months ago
Very thought provoking discussion. I would imagine that Elizabeth would have had an accurate portrayal of Anne contained in the ring she wore. What bothers me in the Cheke rendering is that the hair appears somewhat blond!
Alas, it looks like my favorite portrait-the one in the National Gallery-is not an accurate rendering of Anne. Have to agree with you re: Hever. I think that is the closest we can hope to get, and it is quite a nice painting, as well.
Cissy2cute 5 months ago
@Cissy2cute I think the bit that looks like hair on the Holbein drawing that Cheke apparently identified as Anne is actually the trim or underpart of her hood/cap.
AnneBoleynFiles 5 months ago 2
Nicely done! Very professional and packed with great info. Keep the videos coming!
EuropeTravelShow 5 months ago
I also agree with you Claire. For me the Hever Portrait comes closest to how she really looked, so I think. I can't believe she had a swelling neck like in the Holbein portrait. We all know she wasn't likely to be the most prettiest woman a man at that time had ever seen, but she surely must have had some really strong and beautiful features, besides her excellent way to flirt with men, to bind a king to her. Interesting videoclip. I hope you will post more.
jilbos 5 months ago
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jilbos 5 months ago
I agree s well. Good summery and to the point about Elizabeth. Note: when Elizabeth was a teenager, she actually lived with Sir Edward Denny and his wife, Margaret Edgecombe (Anne Boleyn's cousin) for several months after being caught with a married man...supposedly "kissing", perhaps more!
cocatwoman7 6 months ago
@cocatwoman7 - Sounds like you are talking about Elizabeth and Thomas Seymour. The very foolish Thomas seems to have forced his attentions on Elizabeth. I think the belief that they had a full blown affair is outlandish and totally out of character for the future queen. True they were caught kissing by Catherine Parr, but I don't think that Elizabeth was a really willing participant. In fact, good thing that Parr saw this, as she probably prevented something more disastrous happening.
Cissy2cute 5 months ago
@Cissy2cute well, we can guess where Thomas's "brains" were-lol. I don't believe they had a hot and heavy affair at all. "prevention" was the key and the rest...is history! Elizabeth had quite a head on her shoulders and I think she could never fully Trust a man. Look at all she witnessed in her youth-poor girl.
cocatwoman7 5 months ago
Excellent job, C.R.! The Hever portrait is certainly the most captivating; it blends a very feminine charm with a sense of wit and intelligence. More, more!
(What about a video tracing movie images of Anne? Dorothy Tutin is my favorite all-around Anne, and I find Vanessa Redgrave's the most charismatic. Dormer overdoes the seductress stuff, but that might be the director's fault. )
2012Ursula 6 months ago
@2012Ursula -Thinking along those lines myself.! Interpretations of Anne through the various films either about her or in which she makes an appearance would be extremely interesting. Although I have nothing against the actress in "The Tudors" series (the less said about that the better), why they decided to go with someone with light eyes among other incorrect features is beyond me.
I vote for Dorothy Tutin in "The Six Wives of Henry VIII" miniseries, down to her deep, dark eyes and hair.
Cissy2cute 5 months ago
I agree with you Claire, when I think of Anne Boleyn I instantly think of the Hever image. All up, a great video, well researched with a pleasant smooth voice i could listen to for hours!
sassuhfrass93 6 months ago
@sassuhfrass93 Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
AnneBoleynFiles 6 months ago
@sassuhfrass93 Claire, you have a very nice voice and I hope you do many more videos here :)
cocatwoman7 6 months ago
Fascinating information and excellent presentation. Thank you!
arizcarol 6 months ago
Very important informations .. Thank you for your amazing research!
RoLorenz 6 months ago
Very good video. Anne Boleyn's portraiture is a pet subject of mine and I too believe that the NPG/Hever face pattern is as close as we will get to an "idea" of her true appearance.
How about adding a video of more modern depictions of Anne for us to enjoy.
LittleCakeKid 6 months ago
Elizabeth's household when she was growing up, and also when she became queen, consisted of many Boleyn relatives who would have told her about her mother. I don't believe that she thought Anne was guilty, I just think she thought it best not to draw attention to her illegitimate status and the fact that her mother was executed as a traitor, she had enough challenges to her throne as it was.
AnneBoleynFiles 6 months ago 2
Amazing analysis! Thank you!
I've got a question: when Elizabeth became queen, did she do anything to restore her mother's innocence and reputation, and Katherine Howard, to whom she had a certain fondness? Or did she believe her Anne was guilty and deserved to die?Thank you.
vivelhistoire 6 months ago
Very interesting! And I completely agree, I picture Anne as the one depicted in the Hever portrait.
Akasharogue 6 months ago