THis is truely beautiful. I have trained in ju jitsu for 5 years now and I am now learning tai chi and it is opening my mind up to the concepts of ju jitsu in a way I didn't think possible. I also have been looking into xing yi and ba gua an now I find this. I am impressed by the way you have brought these principles together and I feel more inspired. Well done and thank you for sharing this...
Due to none too careful transliteration, the art of the Ninja was originally written with the Americanized "jitsu" rather than the more correct "jutsu." Mark Saito, Sr. had always used the term "jitsu" and made no effort to change it to "jutsu." In fact, he remained adamant that his art was not the art of Ninjutsu: "This is the art of Shorinjin-ryu Saito Ninjitsu--we are not Ninja! This art was granted to the Saito family by the Shorinjin and is highly revered; not for assassins."
@Nhan01 No such things as Shorinjin in the first place. If you said that to a Japanese they'd look at you like you were nuts, because it is bad grammar. That whole story just doesn't add up with what is known about Japanese history. As far as the "jitsu" "jutsu" thing, well that's not entirely the problem. There's also the "nin" kanji that is displayed, which no matter how you read it means the same thing as the "nin" in ninja, and which can also be read...SHINOBI.
This is a great form. one of my favorites.. people say that they can see all their jujutsu techniques as well as judo in it. What is amazinq is that there are no form/katas in jujutsu or judo anymore. Just prearranged partner exercises.
Umm..the "prearranged partner exercises" ARE the kata of jujutsu. This isn't jujutsu or ninjutsu. This isn't even a Japanese based art being shown. You can't show ONE authentic Japanese martial art that performs like this.
@brownsound1 actually, this is ninjitsu, a combination on shaolin, aikido, ninjutsu, judo, and Hawaiian martial arts. In our class we call this the tengu dance. Basically for this dance you become a bird-like humanoid, the Tengu, and then you perform it thusly. After you take those steps forward in the beginning and pull your arms back like that, your arms became wings.
@brownsound1 Well this is Ray's video and his dojo's style on it. Ours is almost the same and we call it ninjitsu while his is ninjutsu. I'm pretty sure it was the same at some point and branched off somewhere along the line when new moves were added.
The original, untouched style I believed was lost when Saito died and his sons refused to take over.
@brownsound1 It's spelled Shorinjin meaning man of shaolin, but anyways I don't know what the Ashida Kim stuff is so take your insults somewhere else.
@Nhan01 Ashida Kim claims he has some secret Koga ryu ninjutsu style, which of course is as fake as boobs in Beverly Hills. The style you practice cannot be ninjutsu/ "ninjitsu" and should not be called such. There is no martial art in Japan that even resembles what it shown in this video. Basically someone took some kung fu/karate moves and decided to slap the "ninjitsu" thing on it to sell it to people.
@brownsound1 Oh I see. Well explain to me what makes any martial art legit. And secondly, I'm not saying ninjutsu has anything to do with ninjitsu, cuz we aren't ninja. It's chinese. Ok? It was created in China Ok? It's not purely Japanese Ok?
@Nhan01 Um, then why are you guys attempting to use Japanese terminology if it is Chinese. I'll tell you why...because it "implies" ninja and that sells. That's wrong, pure and simple. The whole story about where this art originates just doesn't add up. You've been had.
@brownsound1 Terminology and techniques were adapted to make new ones, sometimes for the better. And another thing, nobody said ninja and that's not what it implies. Saito plainly stated that we aren't ninja and we don't claim to be ninja so just stop right there. Did you even read the website completely or are you taking information out specifically just to make your argument right?
And another thing, learning what you like isn't wrong no matter what you say.
@Nhan01 Considering the kanji used, then that is EXACTLY what it implies. As far as claiming to be ninja...NOBODY can claim that. However, you are claiming to teach ninjutsu, which is what the Kanji read on your arts website. So either Saito doesn't know Japanese, or there is some shennanigans going on. All one has to do is look at any number of martial arts websites and do a search on this art. If you enjoy being lied to in what you train in, then knock yourself out.
@brownsound1 alright I warned you about taking information out of context but you obviously don't care so I'm not arguing with you anymore. I'm just putting out this quote and I'm done talking to you.
Nice techniques using the 9 Levels of Power, Ray. I hope that you'll upload the final three levels here soon. Keep up the good work, good health and God Bless.
Maui Saito is the current Soke of Saito Ninjitsu. He teaches in Arizona.
shoshinsha1 2 months ago
THis is truely beautiful. I have trained in ju jitsu for 5 years now and I am now learning tai chi and it is opening my mind up to the concepts of ju jitsu in a way I didn't think possible. I also have been looking into xing yi and ba gua an now I find this. I am impressed by the way you have brought these principles together and I feel more inspired. Well done and thank you for sharing this...
DrSpooglemon 11 months ago
This is all very interesting on several levels. :)
MstrTchr1 1 year ago
what the heck is this?
fardisghomeshi 1 year ago
Due to none too careful transliteration, the art of the Ninja was originally written with the Americanized "jitsu" rather than the more correct "jutsu." Mark Saito, Sr. had always used the term "jitsu" and made no effort to change it to "jutsu." In fact, he remained adamant that his art was not the art of Ninjutsu: "This is the art of Shorinjin-ryu Saito Ninjitsu--we are not Ninja! This art was granted to the Saito family by the Shorinjin and is highly revered; not for assassins."
Nhan01 1 year ago
@Nhan01 No such things as Shorinjin in the first place. If you said that to a Japanese they'd look at you like you were nuts, because it is bad grammar. That whole story just doesn't add up with what is known about Japanese history. As far as the "jitsu" "jutsu" thing, well that's not entirely the problem. There's also the "nin" kanji that is displayed, which no matter how you read it means the same thing as the "nin" in ninja, and which can also be read...SHINOBI.
brownsound1 1 year ago
This is a great form. one of my favorites.. people say that they can see all their jujutsu techniques as well as judo in it. What is amazinq is that there are no form/katas in jujutsu or judo anymore. Just prearranged partner exercises.
matsuoc 2 years ago
Umm..the "prearranged partner exercises" ARE the kata of jujutsu. This isn't jujutsu or ninjutsu. This isn't even a Japanese based art being shown. You can't show ONE authentic Japanese martial art that performs like this.
brownsound1 1 year ago
@brownsound1 actually, this is ninjitsu, a combination on shaolin, aikido, ninjutsu, judo, and Hawaiian martial arts. In our class we call this the tengu dance. Basically for this dance you become a bird-like humanoid, the Tengu, and then you perform it thusly. After you take those steps forward in the beginning and pull your arms back like that, your arms became wings.
Nhan01 1 year ago
@Nhan01 So it is basically something you guys made up and are calling it "ninjitsu."
brownsound1 1 year ago
@brownsound1 Well this is Ray's video and his dojo's style on it. Ours is almost the same and we call it ninjitsu while his is ninjutsu. I'm pretty sure it was the same at some point and branched off somewhere along the line when new moves were added.
The original, untouched style I believed was lost when Saito died and his sons refused to take over.
Nhan01 1 year ago
@Nhan01 Ah I understand now. This is off of that Shorijin Saito Ryu "ninjitsu," which is about as legit as Ashida Kim's stuff.
brownsound1 1 year ago
@brownsound1 It's spelled Shorinjin meaning man of shaolin, but anyways I don't know what the Ashida Kim stuff is so take your insults somewhere else.
Nhan01 1 year ago
@Nhan01 Ashida Kim claims he has some secret Koga ryu ninjutsu style, which of course is as fake as boobs in Beverly Hills. The style you practice cannot be ninjutsu/ "ninjitsu" and should not be called such. There is no martial art in Japan that even resembles what it shown in this video. Basically someone took some kung fu/karate moves and decided to slap the "ninjitsu" thing on it to sell it to people.
brownsound1 1 year ago
@brownsound1 Oh I see. Well explain to me what makes any martial art legit. And secondly, I'm not saying ninjutsu has anything to do with ninjitsu, cuz we aren't ninja. It's chinese. Ok? It was created in China Ok? It's not purely Japanese Ok?
Nhan01 1 year ago
@Nhan01 Um, then why are you guys attempting to use Japanese terminology if it is Chinese. I'll tell you why...because it "implies" ninja and that sells. That's wrong, pure and simple. The whole story about where this art originates just doesn't add up. You've been had.
brownsound1 1 year ago
@brownsound1 Terminology and techniques were adapted to make new ones, sometimes for the better. And another thing, nobody said ninja and that's not what it implies. Saito plainly stated that we aren't ninja and we don't claim to be ninja so just stop right there. Did you even read the website completely or are you taking information out specifically just to make your argument right?
And another thing, learning what you like isn't wrong no matter what you say.
Nhan01 1 year ago
@Nhan01 Considering the kanji used, then that is EXACTLY what it implies. As far as claiming to be ninja...NOBODY can claim that. However, you are claiming to teach ninjutsu, which is what the Kanji read on your arts website. So either Saito doesn't know Japanese, or there is some shennanigans going on. All one has to do is look at any number of martial arts websites and do a search on this art. If you enjoy being lied to in what you train in, then knock yourself out.
brownsound1 1 year ago
@brownsound1 alright I warned you about taking information out of context but you obviously don't care so I'm not arguing with you anymore. I'm just putting out this quote and I'm done talking to you.
Nhan01 1 year ago
Beautiful, i'll post up a video response with this form too... maybe the others will too... we can all be martial brothers!!!!
matsuoc 2 years ago
Nice techniques using the 9 Levels of Power, Ray. I hope that you'll upload the final three levels here soon. Keep up the good work, good health and God Bless.
GameGirl35 2 years ago