Band of Brothers - Get out of my office... GET!

[imperatorcaesar100]

Captain Sobel was a good training officer, but not a good combat officer. I am surprised no one of the original recruits of easy company attended his funeral. his rough training made them able to survive the war by his excellent training of them.

[dkdldkdl91]

Capt.Sobel trained them to be battle ready, but he himself was not ready for the war. 

[yogifalkmybitch]

Winters loved to bugger boys

[achtung000yo]

Am I the only one who's in love with this man's accent? :))))

I especially like it when he says: "I ought to have you all shot!", just before this part starts.

[aussiejed1]

Lewis Nixon, a little earlier, pointed out that Sobel is a genius. While not necessarily true, he clarified it by saying "Do you know any of these guys who wouldn't double time Curahee just to piss in his coffee?"

Sobel's tough discipline made them the soldiers they were and prepared them better for combat. But his lack of field command ability meant that he couldn't lead them into combat. Sink was right to keep him in training and as someone else pointed out, that transfer saved his life.

[Niche79]

he woulda been fragged in 2 mins of landing in the "confusion" of normandy....ehh shit happens! haha

[TheAlexander8898]

What happened to them that made them get into trouble?

[carde028]

I dont get why he punished a few of them. why not just yell at them and then keep them all as NCO's?

[MangoWithHats]

@carde028 Sgt. Harris was the leader of this and the second Sgt. Ranney was his 2nd in command, but oddly enough before they jumped off Sgt. Ranney was re-protmoted to Sergeant probably bc he was a good leader. he held the rank sgt for the war.

[BombEatingPacMan]

soldiers can get killed if they mutinied?

[dougpowers2]

@BombEatingPacMan Yes, It is act of treason.

[HittokiriBattousai17]

@dougpowers2 Exactly, and it's perfectly legal

[Hockeygurl167]

They did this because they knew that if it was Captain Sobel who would lead them, that they wouldn't survive very long. He was an idiot. No offence. I like Winters so much more!

[level242]

Did they die?

[lacouerfairy]

So Sink has brown hair here but later in the series he has grey hair? I guess war stress really gets to you!

[saxophoneftw]

The guy playing Sink has been in a ton of military movies.

Coincidentally he played Sink in a video game. Imagine that

[ScaryGuy8316]

@saxophoneftw Ya it's Vietnam War Veteran Captain Dale Dye

[SketchageX]

git!

[toowmany]

col sink in the movie is a real captain in the us army en fought in vietnam...

[JOM123456]

@toowmany

Actually he was a Marine

[needfullt6]

The guy that was transferred out, Harris, was killed a few days after D-Day according to Guarneres book.

[balbaldoodoo]

Wait I forgot why these men were in trouble

Can anyone remind me what happened :O?

[joeyjohns1984]

They wrote a letter refusing to go into battle with Sobeil in command

[princessjezzica]

All the NCOs signed a piece of paper saying they wouldn't go into combat under the command of Captain Sobel. They were like, resigning from being noncom officers. MUTINY!

[123hoythere]

they said they didnt want to fight under sobel

[Tjeuhtje]

They problem wasnt that he was rough but that he got jumpy in the field and got most of the compay killed thats why the did it not cause he was rough every drill insterteur should be but he was just a bad combat leader

[jrmljrmljrml]

com'on every drill instucter is harse,they have to be.what if they got captured. it will be a lot harser there than capt sobel's training

[lbrad2001]

Nice scene but it didnt actually happen, look it up. Instead some of the men privately complained to winters and he talked to Sink.

[71259mark]

@lbrad2001 According to Wikipedia, that scene DID happen.

[lbrad2001]

@71259mark I believe Wikipedia is incorrect, because I have heard different elsewhere...however I could be mistaken

[71259mark]

@lbrad2001 After having looked into it, the passages in Wikipedia that reference this incident are from Stephen Ambrose's book.

[ibanezas73]

@71259mark when I read the book Stephen Ambrose specifically wrote that the noncoms did not report captain sobel because it amounted to mutiny. I really don't know now which is correct. I'm trying to get a copy of major winters book to check.

[naamhier]

Hm.

Poor man, really... No one even came to his funeral. ): Not even his wife and kids. You must admit, he did train Easy well.

[MajorStrayer]

That's truth. The men of Easy had to admit that Sobel's trainings did save their lives.

[NonFlyingDutchman]

They saved Captain Sobel's life.

The plane he was supposed to be on in D-Day was shot down with all its passangers aboard.

By forcing Col. Sink to transfer him they saved his life, just like he saved theirs by giving them extra difficult training and rough discipline.

[rodoobaba1]

exit my office--yes sir---

[TMoorej]

Raney was later promoted back to sergeant

[larma7]

Well, things might not have worked out that way.

[stillgotit01]

Yes, during war time if you disobey a direct order you indeed can be executed. If Sobel had been left in command of Easy Company I think he would have gotten a lot of men killed. What those NCO's did was admirable eventhough they got demoted by doing it.

[kbanghart122]

if Sobel had led men in actual combat it wouldn't be long b 4 he'd be dead, if not by Germans then by his own men lol

[Moolers]

Nice scene. I actually never noticed that "GET" before.