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  • i think we can't see the whole picture, and i think that Sr. has changed too but due to all the stress from the show and what people expect from him... Jr. learned from Sr. and Sr. can learn a lot from Jr. as long as he's willing

  • sad,sad old man..

  • Sr. got what he wanted. A little success and he wanted it all for himself. When 3 sons won't speak to you do you still think THEY are the problem.

  • so they all agreed to get together on camera and walk away from their father while he stands in the middle? I wonder how much of this show is real and how much is hype 

  • I'll tell you what gonna happen. His angers gonna kill him and his old lady is gonna end up with everything. Dont let her fool you she knows whats up.

  • Jr's chip is no bigger than his father's chip. His father needs some self reflection. Senior is a selfish AH. Jr is right to move on and so is everyone else at OCC. Sr. is a bad person,,, NOT a good person. This he expects others to toe a line he will not toe. His sucess was an accident and not due to any hard work on his part ! ! !

  • Working for your Dad can be hard , especially because most Dad's want their kids to succeed and surpass what they have already done, but working for an asshole who cant come to grips with FACT Jr is the talent Mickey is the comic relief and his kids made the old man millions. HEY sr!!! watch yer old shows and see who built the bikes that put O.C.C. on the damn map hell they made it world famous you jack ass!!!!

  • @georgeellas-Editing can make right look wrong, good appear as bad and vice versa. Sure the family had problems but it certainly takes two to tango. Sr often appeared to be tough to work for but Jr appeared to have a chip on his shoulder but who knows for sure ? Sr and Jr had a different work ethic but it took both of them to make the business what it is. We only saw what the producers wanted us to see. It was entertainment and the friction between father and son was played for all it was worth

  • @urparanoia Sr. and his cohorts have done nothing but run down his son at every turn and especially when he startedbuilding bikes again, Hell he didnt even show up to his son's wedding. you talk about the show and editing, but when it comes down to brass tax he has three boys ,one of which doesnt have anything to do with the show , and none of them are talking to him. The editing that is funny now is showing senior working on the bikes even though his own guys says his there for cont.

  • @urparanoia a min or two and then he disappears into his office, he is a fucking joke and as far as a "Father" goes he isthe poorest example that i have ever seen. OOC may have been in business for 30 years but NO ONE knew who the hell they wre before Jr. Mikey put them on the map and that is the facts.

  • @georgeellas - Again, you see what the producers want you to see. They put in or take out whatever they want and you only see the end result. It is hollywood, plain and simple

  • the show has lost its flair and humor. and mikey seems lost/ caught in between.

  • One piece of advice.

    PUT A FUCKING SHIRT ON DAD!!!!

  • Sr you use drugs again ?

  • ok here is what the fan club has found out. occ is on the verge of filing bankruptcy. sr is suing jr again over a stolen customer. cody and pauls ex girlfriend and jr was screwed out of the bikes that was built for them. when sr.s ex girlfriend had cancer sr dumped her during that time supposibly and sold her bike for $20,000. the question is will the new show survive? if occ goes down? mikey is looking bad again. nerve pills possibly? thanks for the info fans.

  • none of the sons talk to there dad!!!

    all the stuff SR says towards the end ...but will he do it. ????

  • count how many times Paul SR say ahum in an interview ,, funny very funny

  • It's a tv show. It's not real. They put all this shit in for drama.

  • @sexydarin1 its a reality show dimwit

  • @sexydarin1 doubt that...i worked with my dad...its hard.....finding that balance between work and family....i kind of got fired too....after 12 years he offerd me my job back...and i took it.

    now i keep my mouth shut.....and work doing as i am told.:)

  • AN SCC AND OCC BIKER BUILD OFF!!! YOU KEEP SAYING YOUR THE BEST OCC BUT YOU WONT CHALLENGE ANYONE BUT YOUR OWN FAMILY.. CHECK OUT RUSSEL CROWES AUSTRALIAN BIKE OCC BUILT AND THEN CHECK OUT THE INDIGENOUS DREAMTIME CHOPPER THAT SCC BUILT AND TELL ME WHO IS THE REAL CUSTOM THEMED CHOPPER BUILDER... BRING ON A BIKER BUILD... OFF TRUST ME YOUR GOING TO NEED PAUL JR TO BEAT THIS GUY snakecharmerchoppers

  • Sr. don't miss them, here Jr.+ Vin. did everything. unreal

  • Senior says he thinks he has been used and abused by his family for 20 years. Senior seems truly paranoid.

  • @00Lobster00 Not abused nearly enough.

  • best they don't work together anymore, best for all of them. 

  • so senior feels used and abused by his kids huh, isnt this the guy who missed out on his children growing up because he was messed up on drugs n alchohol, hmmmm he feels abused eh, paul jr;s bike building is what made the show which in turn got sr a 3.3 million house and a 30mil net worth and he was used and abused huh. maybe im missing something

  • @firedude934 Remember rick from season 1, airforce bike? he said this arrangement can only end up in disaster.................that being a father boss giving the keys to thee mercedes to a kid. Paul jr.......capatilized on a growing segment in our society. Bikes took off in 2000-2007 right place at right time............his round bar designs are shitty! im gonna make 6 web bikes, not counting the original spiderman bike...........which was all web! he is making t-shirts and grills, go figure!

  • I can't believe the bullshit comments people are saying about Paul Sr. Paul Sr. started the business from passion, desire and love of building bikes without the state of art equipment from the start. It's just like he said in one of the shows. Only thing Paul Sr did wrong was spoil Paul Jr. Paul Jr is good, but very spoiled and lacks respect for his father. Paul Sr should have kicked his ass in one of those shows!!!!

  • @phoneloan

    think so too

  • @phoneloan Paul Sr was an absentee father. He didn't give a shit about anyone but his own self-indulgent behavior. When all three of your sons don't want a thing to do with you, you've fucked up somewhere.. You can't claim hemade a mistake raising them as it doesn't seem he had much to do with raising anything but coke spoon to his nose or a bottle to his lips. He's a shitty father and now he's reaping the rewards.

  • old man needs to read some comments , plus vinnie nubs and cody and how many more wanted away from him

  • What get me is that three kids don't talk to the father and the father is in denial. Nothing is his fault.

  • aaawwwwww whats the matter sr? the steroids gettin to you? dont worry even with jr. gone you will probably have a stroke, heart attack, or kidney failure. but you can blame that on your trophy wife so you got it covered. there's a lot of TALENTED bike builders who deserve the fortune that was HANDED to YOU. lets face to truth...your an ASSHOLE and what comes around go's around, and it looks like it's coming around to you. i hope they air the closing of your world headquarters HAHAHA jerk

  • junior he is great ,,his father he is an asshole,,think paul how much damage your relation ship with your son ,,thats not good

  • where's the show after 3, 4 episodes?

  • Stop watching because Sr. treats his kids like shit.

  • I would buy a bike from Junior before Senior. That's all that matters.

  • I quit watching this show because of the constant arguing between Sr. and Jr. In my opinion, this was LONG overdue. Jr. sacrificed himself by allowing Sr. to treat him like dirt. For Jr., this is good news. He needs to put his own well being first and should never again let Sr. use him to vent his anger. Sr. needs psychiatric help to deal with the underlying causes of his anger. Jr. needs to give up his fantasies and face the truth about the old man.

  • Both are to blame....it's sad. They will both have regrets if they don't fix this.

  • @bianchibrooks Are you kidding me. May you never have a father like Sr.

  • Mikey and Paul jr. were a big part of the show. In the business Sr. did his part and jr. did his part. Is it just me, or did things get worse after Sr. got his new wife? What kind of dad would try to constantly belittle his son even after firing him. Would senior be happy if junior just completly failed? Sad, very sad!

  • @fiji9000 Sad is the word. A Father who treat his kids like Sr is a sin...

  • Paul senior is a inspiration, he built a company from scratch and is a true visionary, what has Paul Jr done again? Oh wait I remember now, he was given a job by his dad, without his pops he would be working at Burger Time, Paul Jr is a inconsiderate little prick, American Chopper will keep doing well with or without Jr.

  • @flamingaxe791 I think you make a fair point but really its only the whole American Chopper series thing that has made snr successful. It was the constant brawling between the two that kept the producers and the veiwing public interested.

  • well i dont know, it might be 50%real and 50% fake!, cus ive seen real lifes crushed, real families get crush out of fathers that have alcohol problems and kids cant never forgive them becus of what they did when they were drunk, it didnt happened to me, but i have seen it. anyways

  • STAGED... From experiance I know what it's like to have a blow up in your face fight w/ your dad. My wife and kids said they could hear me yelling @ my father in the car w/ the air conditioning going, and the windows rolled up. I'm not proud of that fact, and we've sence worked it out, but these guys are doing this for the camera and the ratings. Come on, both the sons walking away from the dad one on each side for affect. I have to say after seeing that, this is staged, and fake.

  • @onyxone144 It's not staged. I live in Newburgh and their court cases are constantly in the local paper and if you go to OCC's shop, there is nothing on the shelf involving Paul Jr.

  • @Three1Bravo Well, that's sad for them, for both sides. I just don't believe that people should have that kind of stress in their lives. I like having calm in my life; I guard my calm very strictly, and will not let anyone dissrupt it. Looks like the money means quite a bit to them.

  • so much for the family afterwards huh Sr.

  • fake ass drama to keep you watchin, cha ching,or call it the fancy word for bullshit..PROPAGANDA!

  • Sr. Built up two successful businesses and got the deal with TLC for the show.

    Jr. just designed some bikes, and if he can't follow the rules that he agreed to, then he is replaceable just like everyone else. His head got to big.

    It's unfortunate, but Sr. can't treat him different than any other employee because of conflict of interest.

    Plus, I am sure it will get dragged out a bit because of the show itself, just to keep the drama.

  • i am disgusted with Paul Sr. he must have delusions of grandjure. Paul Jr. had a lot to do with the success of OCC and yes i agree for him to trash talk his sons on TV is an outrage. He needs some serious counciling or therapy or something. If he doesnt fix his relationships with his sons and make ammends he will regret it for the rest of his life. Your children are the most important things in your life not your business. You think he would of learned that by now. i wish the best to paul Jr.

  • what is sr. doing I hope he knows that money and ego dont mix well together in the wrong hands.Sr. your sons dont need to ( and i would think you would not want them to walk in you same steps) .SR. you said that youz love how mikey makeas you laugh. How does it feel to know that you have broken that sweet easy going guy. I challenge the fans to fax OCC our concerns and more so help Jr.Design. lets RALLY for MIKEY

    Sr. how does that big EMPTY house sound. Like a living COFFIN. FIX THIS SR>

  • Watching this video is so sad! Sr, you are a fool. When you are Older, lonely, sad and bitter because you are all alone and no sons around, the regret will slap you in your face. Have you taken your Bible out and read it. You are no living according to the word of God. Shame on you that you have so much hatred for you own son that you will him to fail in his business. Jr is a better man than you because he doesn't trash his familly on the TV show like you do. I pray Paulie's business will expand

  • the real talent is Jim,he really put them over the top,as far as engineering a functional and beautiful motorcycle

  • I wish they just wake the fuck up and get along for each other. Fuck the business family first Paul sr. has other people in that company that can run the business. And they do a great job. What we hate is watching their show week after week and hearing the bitching and crying. And Paul sr. how can you sit and let your employees talk shit about your kids man. Employees need to stay in there place when it comes to family.

  • senior is an idiot for losing paul jr he has no idea how other people sons are. he should be proud to have paul as a son. he is an idiot that he doesn't see it. how can you be this way to your own kids its crazy. fuck money fuck wealth if there is no family there is no wealth. I wouldn't enjoy wealth or anything if I don't have my family. but I guess some people grew up different sadly. Paul junior for the win!

  • dammmmmmmmmm, all i can say is GO Jr and mikey...Maybe Senior should stop taking steriods and going to the gym three times aday and put more effort in treating his sons like humans.Granted he started from ground up, alittle praise to jr now and then wouldnt hurt. As I SEE it Jr's designs OUR THE COMPANY , no more no less.

    And in the long run Jr and company will be flying high...without the GYM.

    As NIKE WOULD SAY.....JUST DO IT....

  • Life is too short guys' . Wake up and grow up Senior..... Be the wise man and make your mother proud.

  • You go PAUL JR!!!! Great bikes!!!! OCC will crumble unless the family is reunited!

  • we all have stress but we all deal with it different they will mend the fences

  • Could it be that "ALL" three sons are wrong?? If you've noticed through the seasons how many girls friends senior has had. MMMMMMMM I wonder why. It's more than likely their fault. YA Right.

  • Paul.sr looks alot skinny in this video.

    Also am a SR. fan Jr sucks.

  • @JaxxDaemon ...Sr is not as bulky, because he is getting OLD, and he is an angry, bitter, old man which has to effect his health. Sr will die a bitter old man if he doesn't have a major change of heart. What kind of father trashes his own children on national TV and allows his own employees to do the same. Really sad!!!

  • @debramac54 He has prostate cancer, thats explains his weight lose.

  • I'm not buying any of this. It's just a way for the show to go out with a bang.

  • He's a big poof!

  • paul senior should stop being a bitch ass disgusting buffoon and smoke some weed so he can at last get off his period

  • its 9/16 /10 and a new show is on ..i'm trying to watch and i see tubbs has come onto the show as there new painter uumm . i really dont know what to think about this show , so i'm just going to watch to see who makes a better bike if thats possible ..

  • turn off these idiot shows and go back to youre fields and take care of your own life so what happend here dont happen to you

  • I think the hardest part about watching Sr and Jr fight was watching how Mikey was stuck in the middle. The show made Mikey look like a sensitive person and I can't imagine what it would have been like.

  • i think having those cameras recording everything they do & say added a lot of pressure on all of them even Mikey freaked out more than once

  • HAHA yeah Free Rick..

    Paul SR: Watch your sales fall now that the TV show is over.. The TV show made you and I'm pretty sure it will downsize you.

    Paul JR: Good on ya for starting up your own company. It will take off..

    It's a shame we can't follow the tale anymore.. I've been watching this since Series 1 Ep 1...

  • FREE RICK!!!!

  • They will go off and make their own show or something if they stay gone... For Mikey: American Scooter, For Paul: American Screw Off

  • These guys acting skills have gotten good. All this fighting is just for the show.

  • The Rise to Fame and Fortune was the downfall.....they all got a DIVA Complex, they each think they are the Star but without one another they will soon become nothing more than a Re-run. Farewell American Chopper

  • What kind of FATHER says " I wish I could say that I miss those guys but I DON"T "

    The old man has let GREED and JEALOUSY push his kids out of his life ! Paul Sr. I hope you wake up before it's to late and make a mends with your kids all of your kids . If you were not on speaking terms with one of your kids then you could say oh well its the child BUT YOU HAVE 3 KIDS THAT ARE NOT SPEAKING TO YOU ! I think its time you look at yourself because you are the problem not them . GROW UP !

  • Get over that shit and just fix it. If I wanted to watch days of our lives then thats what Id be watchin. Save the drama for your mama and build some scooters

  • i think change is good sometimes.

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  • @qtrml no offence but your family either had nothing to give , did'nt know how to love and show affection or just didn't like being parents ...or you were a nasty disrespectful kid who made it real hard to want to do good for ...people teach how they were taught if You hear a story ,Your Father asking your Grandfather to teach him to swim and the story goes I throws him in a lake and said swim .yeah kick your legs ,wave your arms ...swim swim lol my deepest sympathy ... you'll need Therapy !!!

  • @Onemangangnyc .no there main frame was to teach us nothing will never be handed to you....to have to earn it..i have to houses and doing very well..thanks

  • @qtrml im glad you have homes and finances ..but i bet your socially and affectionally limited , it's hard for you to show compassion or have sympathy for others let alone being able to tell some one how much you love them ...there is always a downside to tough love ...i thank god my family wasn't that way ..but had a ringside seat a number of times and does happen ..i wish you all the pleasure life has to give praise god i am just talking here i mean no harm or provoke and arguement ...

  • In the end it all comes back to family. Dad wants to make things right.

    May be it will happen may be not.

    He missed JR.'s wedding last weakened.

  • @booprop63 Dad is the head not the tail ,Yes it's bad to talk bad about anyone in the family in front of outsider's it's Disrespectful and No good will come of IT ! With that said , Stop being a Baby and fix this relationship ,your man enough to curse at your father ,be man enough to tell him what hurts ....My Father was My Hero and didn't build and OCC Empire , But a Postman born & raised in East Harlem that raised to Tough Sons in the Bronx and Became Tag Team Champs ...It's All About Love !!

  • bam! he just realized hes fuct without help !! lol

  • used and abuse for 20 years...dude when you build a family, you live for then for the rest of your life...and that is the beauty of a family...supporting each other day after day...but i guess you dont think that way right...

  • Its sad to Hear Paul SR Talk about his son as if he is just some other guy off the street that he hired. Regaurdless of what he thibnks about Paul Jr's work ethics, he is His Father. Ive never seen a father talk so badly about His son over and over again its just sad. You dont do that to family. I dont care what anyone says, OCC wouldnt be where it is right now if Paul JR didn't Build the Bikes he Built. Paul JR Got OCC on the Map. SR was never there 4 them as Kids and now again he screws them

  • @redrider187x I agree totally. If my son tried to start his own bike shop I would be proud no matter what cause when he looks good I look good too no matter cause that's my blood.

  • I think parents have the best intentions for their kids, but they tend to repeat the same mistakes their parents made raising them. Paul Sr. is not a bad man, he just has too great expectations, and doesn't see the disastrous effects of how he treats his kids. This country needs both teachers and artists, and they both need to feel nurtured, and be given a certain amount of space to be productive.

  • it is a sad situation!

  • @rusty7983 if it's real

  • Paul Jr. should start out with bikes the average man can buy. Get his name out and then build bikes for companies. He is good and in one sence he is right about most of the builds at OCC. Just look at the bike built on todays show. Yea nice paint but not as out there like the old bikes they built. The old man is the father and should talk to his boys. Be the bigger man.....

  •  tonights show was ok but i'm really wanting to see junior and vinnie build there first bike ..maybe they can call it the SO LONG TO OCC bike ..all they really need now is rick to join them ..

  • Hey old man...BE the man. You're the adult. Bring your kids home...they hurt.

  • The business is not the problem. The business is brick and morter and some legal papers.

    When you are alone drawing your last breath I would hope you are not thinking of the one more bike you could have built. That's a life that never got the important message.

  • Oh yea when I realized what had happened I called them up and yelled at them

  • egr23 Why would you say that you don't know me. My three daughters were robbing my house when I was making arrangements to bury my wife who died of leukemia 

  • Did you people here ever think that maybe this whole ordeal since the beginning is a put on, and they just need a new idea for a season of taping ? dumbasses.

  • @jf99151 I worked with family before, so I doubt this is 100&% put on. My father and I worked together for years, and some days I wanted to punch him out. He brought business matters home, and home matters to business. Today we barely, have any relationship at all. My elder sister has NO relationship with him at all, and he hasn't seen his grand kids in about 2 years.

  • Senior is just the most insecure Old Mofo I've had the displeasure of seeing on television and am glad Junior has decided to move on to bigger and better things!!

  • I relate I have three daughters that don't talk to me, and I am OK with it

  • @sackertown1 - Thats just SAD! how about you MAN up and fix things.

    

  • @sackertown1 If that is true, than you are not only a horrible father, but you're a VERY sorry excuse for a human being! IMO you are a dirtball!

  • @sackertown1 god well if you act like that then i can see why your children don't talk to you

  • idk how far back sr.s bike building skills go but from what i've seen jr. did everything and sr. justs sits around being an office bitch and as soon as he started treating jr. and mikey like employees instead of sons his occ empire started to crumble..... anyone who know anything about occ and are in the market for one of their bikes pry wont be going to occ for their bike now that jr. is gone

  • Not to ruin it for anyone, but I was back in Newburgh NY and for all of you Vinnie fans, "He's Baaack". Even though he has his V-Force business, he is helping Paulie out for this build. I cant wait to see him and I know with these two back, the bikes are gonna be awesome. If I were senior, I would be nervous.

  • It all boils down to respect on both sides,, parents sometimes have a hard time with letting go and acknowledging that maybe the newer generation might have something that they can't offer,, also shouldn't let money get in between family I wish the Tutles well as well as all the other guys at the shop,,, Peace my 2 cent's

  • I would have to say that this is an example of a dysfunctional family . Nothing unusual about that. My opinion is that every family is dysfunctional to some degree or another. I feel sorry for all of them. They all have failed to see the collective fruits of their labor. Now they have collectively killed the goose that laid the golden egg. Life moves on and OCC will live on if only in reruns.

  • i know everyone likes pauly but you have to admit that sr owns the company and he is the boss of them if they want to work there. its sad that it ended this way but im looking forward to see how mickey and paul do without occ because there father will do fine i think.

  • I have followed OCC from the beginning and will say that Sr. is a bully, self center hard headed jerk and WILL not share any OCC credit to success to Mikey or Jr. It's a shame that Sr. is too blind to see he really needs mental help. All his best workers have left due to his anger problem and the stress that he brings into a room. I hope he wakes up one day and comes to reality and see how important his sons are to OCC.

  • Team Jr. FTW!

  • Mikey if you know how to draw and make movies...come work with me at paramount pictures!

  • Amzng how people justify this AZZ Clowns actions!

    Was OCC close to closing b4 the show? YES!

    Would they be as succsfl if it weren't 4 Jr's designs? NO

    If he's gonna blame his kids for evrythng Y isn't he blaming himself 4 abusing drugs & alchl whn they were ynger. He admits he missed out on most of his kids life but he doesn't admit how usin that $h!t cud of affctd them!

    1 child nt talkin 2 you is one thing, but when all 4 don't wanna fnck with ya then ya gotta start askin is it them or me.

  • @TheTRUTHx1000 Paul Sr. is pretty much like my father. His daughter from his first marriage doesn't wan anything to do with him. He was in and out of her life when she was a child. He's missing out on his grand children's lives. I can barely tolerate him because of all the $hit that's happened. Although the man has a good work ethic, his "human rights" record is just as bad as a dictator's. What I mean is he has VERY poor people skills. Hell most of his co workers can't stand him too.

  • @ejr23 U hit da nail on the head bro. He has no idea what he's missing out on. It's almst like he's trying to erase all of the ppl from his life tht reminds him how badly he scrwed up when he was ynger (drugs, alcohol,etc.).

    and I knw some might say so what he did all of that when they were ynger; does that mean he owes them now? HELL YES! It's almost as tho he doesnt realize how badly that can screw up a family! I haven't gone thru it but some of my friends have and man they're hurtin now!

  • if the dad is smart he wont leave them a will. u call those sons??? if i was the dad id sell everything and enjoy the 10 yrs he has. leave them nothing.

  • When do we get to see the final show in New Zealand on Discovery Channel ???????

  • I hope they have a lot of Mikey in this. I miss that clown! I was surprised to see that he had substance abuse issues, I guess being that he never found his niche in the company other than comic relief it was tough on him. He seems like a good shit so I hope he's alright. The one thing I want to know is why the fuck does it look like it's snowing or some shit? I hope Paul Jr is triumphant and shows the old man up. Sr needs to get his head out of ass and hire his boys back.

  • jr is what made the show and who gives a shit if he was late the way i see it jr owns that company all the designs are his

  • this is all an act.. its written on their face that they r lying.. paul sr cant lie..

  • @vids4anand exactly, now try telling that to Wizbang920

  • can anybody tell me what pauly, vinnie and mikey are all up to now that they dont work at occ???

  • @eminemh8rzfukuall Mikey is in rehab the last time I checked (alcohol), vinnie apparently is going to work with Paul Jr. at his newly formed company Paul Jr. designs.

  • now ur showing showing to all what a complete buffoon you are, lol, come back when you find out how much the ironworks and occ are worth compared to the ludicrous amounts paid to them for "acting" a show which is GLOBAL,your comment is so demented it even contradicts itself, go away, you're embarrassing yourself because of your ineptitude to understand logic, because of a tv education no doubt

    if your mum is your fathers sister then i take back all my comments to your good self, rofl

  • Boys you've just taking my joke away from the comments and put it in the back. I thought it was very funny and now the world can't see it. I want the you to know to tell each other you love them and subscribe to each other and give friend invites.

  • @EccentricElectric1 your joke deserves to be at the back and this last comment by you doesnt even make sense,read it yourself

    " I want the you to know to tell each other you love them and subscribe to each other and give friend invites."

    bad english and you're not even american, no excuse

  • "We hate each other, but we're standing outside the building". FAKE. "Coming up next season. WHO SHOT PAUL SENIOR, and Mikey finds out the results of the D.N.A test".

  • @EccentricElectric1 LOL, it's like the Simpsons Who shot Mr. Burns!

  • @mugsy32 Mugsy. I was going to write about Mikey. Is it Paul SNR, or Joey the orang-outang at the zoo. Did you here him talk about his future, "WHAT FUTURE". All he does is walk about like an over-age teenager and does bugger all. I would love to have a beer with Vinnie. I bet he could tell you a story or two about them.

  • I can see both sides of the story, Sr, as a father, probably wants his son to be successful. And being from a generation that values hard-work and dedication. I can see why he gets pissed, but I think he goes overboard with it as Jr's personality doesn't respond well to the yelling and shit. Jr, on the other hand should think of what would have been possible at OCC if he WOULD'VE come in on time and not taken so much time off, but the way Sr treated him, I wouldn't stand for it either.

  • @Wizbang920 u fool its for entertainment and only entertainment just like chop shop and all the other poor crap from the states, its run its course and i personally wouldnt trust any bike that they built, so in summary its fake like the bitches who date paul jr, i mean the guy actually looks like a pig.

  • @firecrackerg60 Yep, and OCC doesn't exist, nor does JR designs. Oh and 9/11 never happened and Obama is actually dead.

    Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics. I'll leave you with that and wash my hands of you.

  • @Wizbang920 what are you blabbing about,noone said that it dont exist,try and stay on course and not divert on your presumptious tangents......you say "I can see both sides of the story, Sr, a father, probably wants his son to be successful."whereas i say its strictly for entertainment value alone,if you dont want retalliation on the net then keep your comments to yourself, now to like a discussion on here to the special olympics is truly a dispicable comment to the people who actually compete

  • @firecrackerg60 This is strictly replying to your last comment: Its the internet get the fuck used to it, or get the fuck out.

  • @Wizbang920 or what. are you a keyboard warrior?

    just lucky really it is or youd get a slap you stupid cunt

  • @firecrackerg60 Or what? If you don't get used to it you will be very disgusted with most of what you find on the internet and won't be able to enjoy any of it. As for the slap, I'd laugh my ass off then knock your teeth in.

  • @Wizbang920 as i said keyboard warrior, youd probably got involved in paedo rings, cos i dont hunt on here, the only shit i find are from mugs like you who think they know it all,yes youd laugh your arse off alright you lump of obese jelly.

  • @firecrackerg60 First off, what's a paedo ring? Second, just get a sense of humor you crying little bitch. Third, EVERYONE knows what kind of shit can be found on the internet. Fourth, that's acually the first time I've been called fat since the 7th grade, I'm 5 foot 11 inches and weigh 150lbs you piece of shit. And yes, I would laugh, cause only chicks, pussies, and queers slap, and, unless you're a chick, I'd get to kick someone's ass again.

  • @Wizbang920 looks like you just won the gold medalin the special olympics you funny little window licker

  • @firecrackerg60 Not the first time I've won it, haha. If only I had a job...

  • @Wizbang920 licking windows is your full time occupation.

    thats obvious to everyone here!

  • @firecrackerg60 Nah, that's what Windex is for you tard. Won't have a full time job until after I graduate.

  • @Wizbang920 lol, i shouldve known you were a child, fatty

  • @firecrackerg60 I already told you, I'm 17 you dumbass. I will graduate in June, and I still only weigh 150 pounds, probably 140 come November.

  • @Wizbang920 well dumb fat yank kiddy,read through all the posts and see where you imagined you told me you were 17, besides you still cant see that this is just a show,the bikes are shit,the plot is thin and its for the masses who cant tell a valve from a spleen,the arguments are staged as is the whole darn thing,when you get a bit of experience in life you will change your viewpoint, guaranteed

  • @firecrackerg60 Experience? I've probably experienced more in the past 5 years of my life than you will in your entire existence. Why would a family agree to look like that on tv? Money? probably not since they already have their own custom chopper shop to make that money. The bikes aren't bad. As for the whole family fued thing, its not hard to believe cause that kind of shit happens constantly with my dad and my older brother.

  • @Wizbang920 they make more money televising this then making bikes you mongchops!

    Do you not realise that its televised Worldwide!,DVDs,scale models,caps,shirts and all the other paraphernalia,thats where the money is!!!

    Without the show they wouldnt be famous,would they??

    Do you realise how much its repeated in the UK!

    Do you know how much the royalties are from that alone?

    the expansion of their shop is solely because of the show.

    the bike shop wouldnt make 1% of the shows income??

  • @firecrackerg60 Really? Are you that fucking stupid? Just being part of a tv show doesn't make you rich. Yes, the show made OCC a lot more known than it was previously, hell I never heard of it until after the show came out. But Paul Sr. had money LONG before the show with Orange County Ironworks, which is now owned by Daniel, the company he founded in the 70s and was the reason he was able to make OCC.

  • @Wizbang920 satisfied yet

  • @veale2002 hehe!!

  • Paul Sr. has always devalued his sons and has always inflated himself. That's why none of his sons like him. As a father, he is a failure.

  • You don't have a relationship with all 3 sons? Look in the mirror then Sr. I still haven't forgave his ass for letting Vinnie leave! Vinnie was very rarely ever included on the presentations on the bikes and neither was Rick and they did all the work! I would have atleast put them both in the opening video riding the bikes to the Pat Benatar song! Mikey is on there and he don't do shit!

  • Business & Family never mix in the long run. Sr. tried to be Strict, but JR. snubbed him all the time, never came in on time! Long lunchs, etc! Mikey thought everything should be a joke! so all the other cast Vinny, Rick, Cody etc always had to pull the slack, so those true workers could become resentful, because JR and Mikey got away with Murder and always put SR. in a Bad mood. Granted JR. is a Great Designer! but he and Mickey didn't grow up! and never knew when to stop taking advantage!

  • Its sad to see a family's crisis televised live. I won't watch this show anymore. Its immoral to profit off this much pain.

  • jr. is the creative one and paul sr is like a slve master just cracking the whip and then wants to claim that it is all his yelling that made the company what it is today. He always claims that he started the company a long time ago ..yea sr. along time ago and NOBODY ever heard about you untill jr. started with his creative designs looks like the company did well from that time till now paul jr will succeed and sr. will regret treating his kids this way.

  • OCC IS GOING DOWN PAUL JR WAS THE BRAIN OF THAT COMPANY. I HOPE OCC GOES BANKRUPT, AND SENIOR LEARNS THAT FAMILY ALWAY'S COMES FIRST. HE SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL I HOPE PAUL JR SUCCEEDS.....

  • 1:15. Pauly looks just like his father lol. i def see the resemblence right there haha

  • Plan and simple, all these years it has been Paul Jr that has came up with the ideas, built and made the OCC name. Sure, Paul Sr started it back in its time but Paul Jr brought it to the 21st century and made it what it is today. Ok, Paul Jr slacks, takes more time off than others, so on and so on, but for over 5 years it has worked and got the job done and Paul Jr has made the deadlines and brought out greater and greater ideas. The business will not make it without Paul Jr, plain and simple.

  • is there a third son?

  • @thundercrow777 Yes. He manages/owns Orange County Iron Works.

  • WELL SAID GARY

  • when did mikey get fired or quit i didnt hear about that

  • love the part when paul jr looks a micky like come on my side.