I cannot believe the meteoroid theory hasn't been looked into yet. As we all know, the perseid meteor showers come every november when the earth passes through a cluster of meteors (this also happens in August with the Leonid meteor showers, which obviously killed princess Diana.) I find this to be a more plausible explanation compared to the wacky and zany theories the looneys come up with. XoD lolol
the visual and ballistic evidence tells which direction the shots came from- now you know why this film was suppressed from the public for 12 years by time life mag. a known cover for the cia- the guy who owned it henry luce ran it like a cia flack when it came to foreign policy news- his wife caire booth luce sposored anit-castro raids and hated kennedy. you can see gov. connally turn around with his steton in his hand when the official bs says he was hit by the same bullet- the bullet paused
the shot needs to come from below becoz kenndy is facing down, and entry was at forehead, so either inside the car, the drain or the drive, i really dont see how the grassy knoll shooter could be it, except that people n james files have said the last 2 shots were almost simultaneous, so they shot together but theres no exit wound on the left side of the head for a hit from the right to the head as the grassy knoll shot would have to inflict.
@mikefan09 may have been Connally from below...or even Jackie, from below and to the side. Or the driver. Or all 3. What better way to keep Jackie o out of the way of a bullett's path than by using her or someone in the car as a shooter. I've often wondered where the throat shot came from - its from the frontish area, not the back, but can't pinpoint a shooter, a;though one person mentioned a Bolden, across the street from the umbrella dude, who had been erased from films somehow.
@sydfan526 my thoughts exactly. definetly a shooter in the car to my mind, how many people have even thought that the sniper teams outside the car, though genuine, were a sideshow, a ditraction in themselves, to the real one shooter in the car who could definetly do it, or many like u suggest, if two or three shooters were in the car n did it in a sly way as is possible, everyone would be looking for the snipers outside for 50 years and not really focus on them. connally is best covered
@sydfan526 ive got two suspects really for the throat shot, mrs connally, becoz she could easily hide a gun in that flower bouquet and she could see the prez well, the other is a suspected sniper in a drain by the side of the road exactly where the car passes by. then ofcourse theres jackie, but yes definetly a front entry.
@mikefan09 there were lots of shots(called reports by some folks) like maybe over a dozen. Connally once said he turned to the others in the car and said 'looks like they're gonna kill all of us now.' So how about this. theres the shooters in the car(shoot or be shot too!). theres 2 pistol shooters, one across the street from umbrella man, and another in a red shirt on the grassyknoll steps. And 5 or 6 rifle nests, incl the drain. All to make it look like he wasn't shot by person in car.
@mikefan09 hey, I think I found the throat shot person - easily seen on the zapruder footage. Just as jfk comes past that traffic sign...look at the upper right of the frame, which shows the people across the street from the umbrella guy. One of those folks non-chalantly lowers their arm to the horizontal position and just fires a pistol at him and hits him in the throat bang! I'm suprised not much publicity has been given to this. Looks like 2 people standing close & one shoots.
@sydfan526 ok ill try check it out n get back to ya on wot i think i see, i tried this film theres nothin to see up that area except one guys white trousers, hes on his own and after the shot moves a hand, dunno if anything is in it, i can believe some shooters were as brazen as u say since no one would really be expecting it, except the guys trained to protect the prez, who were all either in on it or pulled away, damn cowards, cant believe they obeyed that order to sray where they were!
@sydfan526 ok do u mean the couple it looks like, one guy in sort of yellow top, yeh looks like a couple holding a camera to film, but they do put it down as the president grabs his throat, ofcourse there not in the frame when jfk is shot thats all covered by the sign, which i think they planned, but the dont even look at the prez as normal people would do as he goes past, they sort of remain focused on the area where he was, and he put something in his pocket or behind him, suspicious yeh.
@sydfan526 yeh he looks like he was holding something in his hand and brings it down, could be a pistol, grey silver, acts so weirdly not looking at prez, neither of them, like they overly trying to hide their action, too professional, think his was the first shot or someone in front, seems like just before kennedy is covered by the sign the guy was aiming, fired when kennedy was behind the sign, & then bring down like nothings happened, must've been silenced.
Goodness there are a lot of ignorant people on youtube.
The "umbrella man" is Louie Witt of Dallas, who thought that Kennedy would recognize the black umbrella as an insult aimed at Kennedy (or his father, more speficially) His father was a bit of a Nazi-appeaser before WWII. Witt testified at the HSCA and provided the umbrella he carried that day.
look at the driver at 42 sec into it you can see the muzzle flash from the weapon, ho wdid he do this easy he held the gun with his left hand while drivin with his right pulled the trigger brought the gun down and ducked down along with everyone else and played it safe
@copenhagenboy1 ...Only the president didn't get shot at 42 seconds. He is falling down and makes no sudden jerks when you see the glare. I'm pretty sure the glare is just the driver side mirror.
actually there were 12 gunme: 2 behind the grassy knoll, 2 or 3 in the tsbd building, 2 or 3 other bystandards that just happen to have guns and wanted to shoot, and the loch-ness monster and elvis, who was coming out with a new album and wanted to raise sales...there have been so many people involved that I might have been involved and i wasn't even born yet...
I agree, there is no way the head shot came from behind ... with that angle and where Jackie is next to the president, a bullet from behind would have blown her face off too. Just look where her head is when the bullet strikes. If it came from behind it would have followed though right into her face.. WAKE UP PEOPLE!
You're Right, it didn't come from behind, Coroner said fatal shot came from the front, Video shows the Driver Shooting him from the front. Driver was CIA Agent William Greer.
@kmmj8811 Its a video dumb-ass! It looks like she was in front of him, obviously she wasn't. Two things- The wound was on his right side. Her face is on his left. Don't come up with conclusions until you think about it fully.
More than 3 shots. 1 Missed and hurt James Tague, 1 through Kennedy's throat (which can be seen here) and according to John Connally, he wasn't hit until he was turning from right to left. So that happens after the throat shot. 1 has to hit Connally and there's still the headshot of Kennedy. That's atleast 4 shots. Then there's the broken window and sunroof bulletholes.
well actually jackie shouldnt have any responsibility for his death u see on the back of the limo there are two spots and handles for 2 secret service men to hold and stand on so they should be in the back of the limo but the captain or whatever he was called them off when jfk first got on limo after getting of the plane and there job was to basicly shield the president but this would lead to conspiracy and there is plenty of evidence and reasons and vids explaining how this could be
well actually jackie shouldnt have any responsibility for his death u see on the back of the limo there are two spots and handles for 2 secret service men to hold and stand on so they should be in the back of the limo but the captain or whatever he was called them off when jfk first got on limo after getting of the plane and there job was to basicly shield the president but this would lead to conspiracy and there is plenty of evidence and reasons and vids explaining how this could be
There is one shooter that missed the first shot and that's why the man in the front of the car turned his head to the right because he heard it then the second shot went through kenedys shoulder and through the man in the fronts shoulder the bullet that missed shattered into two pieces and was found
innit27....i never noticed the passenger ducking b4...there suppost to take a bullet for the presedent and hes fuckin ducking thats fucked up......james files shot jfk in the head
he was hit just before the sign. then the second one he raises his hands and then lowers his right and taps on his mid chest?? indicating he was hit twice! then the head shot.
Watch carefully at around 38-39 second mark, you can see the trajectory of the bullet...it's almost like if it came raining down on him....it hits his right upper side of the head and blows that side off! before that last shot he was hit twice from behind!
@jinkjack@jinkjack - THere was no SS man running with the car for the following reason: youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8
They were ordered to stand down.
I've seen LOTS of evidence of conspiracy, the most comprehensive being the massive "Evidence of Revision" films, but of all the "evidence", THIS one little video clip is the piece that makes me the saddest. It makes my stomach drop when the guy throws his hands up. :(
The rifle used for the assasination for lee Harvey Oswald was a ww1 carcano rifle. But I agree there must have been 2 shooters as they come from both directions.
q. was Lee a highly qua. sniper - what kind of bullets was used to go through JFK @ the GOV. considering the MODEL of rifle @ distance -- was this tube of bullets available for anyone in 1963 - i agree there was another bullet from front @ its a special one???
The first shot came from the building next to the one oswald was in because it hit JFK in the back going through him and hitting connely...as you can see him lift up and turn to his side.The shot taken was not from oswald because Oswald th angle of the shot wouldnt have allowed the bullet to hit connely.The shot to the head was from the front also making it impossible for Oswald to have been the shooter.
Wasn't there a closed session on-going in Congress to impeach VP LBJ that very day? JFK was going to outst him from VP ticket his next term. LBJ wanted the Presidency so bad & he VP's are forgotten. LBJ, Nixon & several prominent Texans hated the Kennedy's; besides a few steadfast anti-communists and elite war profiteers. Didnt ex-CIA Hunt confess that LBJ ordered the hit. Look at who gained, Johnson, Nixon, Ford (Warren Commision), BUSH Sr and indirectly Bush Jr.
The bldgs that were ordered NOT BOMBED WW2 was IG FARBEN German Assets financed HITLER and ROOSEVELT CIA was created & Central Offices were in IG FARBEN bldgs during and after the war IG&GM made the GAS for the Chambers Dupont produced plastic with IG. Bush created US Statesmen of Hitlers Henchmen undermining our LAWS Lincoln and Kennedy Murders BY ROTHSCHILD BY abolishing the FED RES. Exec. Order 11110 by Kennedy 6 months b4 his death
JOHNSON RECINDED EX ORDER 11110 for ROTHSCHILD immediately
@beaurain82 "Its as simple as this..... LBJ killed kennedy" What he really meant was "It's as stewpid as this" AAMOF JFK was so sickly there was a "secret arrangement" between LBJ and JFK in the event Kennedy was "incapicated". On Air Force One Gen. Godfrey McHugh said "he found LBJ in the bathroom crying hysterically" The Kennedy Assassination : 24 Hours After Steven M. Gillion
cont'd. And I am NOT an expert on gunfire, but if you are hit from the side-front you go backwards on an angle following the natural momentum and if you are hit from the back you stumble forward and slump down on your legs. I think the public assassinations in less than five years time!!! of JFK, Bobby (who sympathized with the black people) and Martin Luther King was racially-motivated.
It makes sense for the final sniper with a high-powered rifle and scope to be already positioned with some adequate cover (against the fence) from everyone around with a get-away car running in the parking lot. The sniper deals the final shot while all eyes are forward on the President, runs and tosses the gun in the backseat, jumps in the car and tears out of there within seconds. If you count how many few seconds were left before Kennedy went through the underpass, that sniper had to succeed.
Thats the big question. How did the sniper in the grassy knoll escape...
Apparently the parking lot behind the knoll was crowded with cars... Nonetheless their must have been some form of getaway vehicle - if the shooter simply ran, it would have been obvious to spectators
Scientific evidence has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there were multiple shooters that day. There were two in the Dal-Tex building, three in the book depository, two behind the picket fence, one in the manhole, one behind the fountain, one just to the left of the Stemmons Freeway sign, Connelly had a .44 magnum concealed in his coat pocket, LBJ was riding shotgun right behind the limousine and Jackie was packing heat also.....wake up America, you're future is at stake here!!!!!!!!
@Abdallaview Impossible. There were no entry wounds to the front of JFK. This was established back in 1979 by the HSCA. All of the nine forensic doctors who examined the x-rays, photos and autopsy reports agreed that there is no medical evidence that the president was hit from the front or the side. Both entry wounds were to the back of the head. The metal fragments extracted from Kennedy and Connolly matched the rounds fired by the gun owned by Oswald. Cased closed. Move on.
@LoneNutter1 Connelly did indeed have lead fragments in him, but none could have come from the pristine Magic Bullet 'found'/planted on the gurney next to JFK at Parkland, ala Arlen Specter. The weights of the recovered Connelly bullet fragments are greater by far than the negligible weight of missing grains of the Magic Bullet, and Connelly had significant unrecovered bullet fragments that were in him at his death many years later.
The Zapruder film clearing shows Kennedy being trust backwards from the impact of the shot. This would mean that at least one shot came from the front. It is also likely from the Zapruder film that he was shot from behind as well, a fraction of a second before the frontal shot, as his head was thrust an inch or two forward prior to being trust all the way back.
@seth917 You can claim he was shot from the front as much as you want but you have a problem with the claim because there are no entrance wounds to the front or side of his head. Plus, people, when struck by a bullet do not move in the same direction of the bullet. Hollywood loves to show people being blown through the air when they're shot. It's very dramatic but not representative of what really happens.
@seth917 Many times and of many different calibers. Do a little research to find out what ballistic experts say what happens to people when they get shot. People do not get propelled backwards when shot. You cannot determine the location of a shooter based on the reaction of the victim. Furthermore, JFK's head actually moves forward slightly when he was struck. You claim there's evidence there was more than one shooter. Really??!!! I don't think so.
Additionally, as I've heard and stated previously kennedy may have been shot in the head twice, at least - Once from behind and a fraction of a second later from the front.
@seth917 Your "common sense", as plausible as you think it may be gets trumped by the laws of physics and forensic science. To use your words "Kennedy may have been shot.." Well, there "may" have been a dozen gunmen blasting away at him in Dealey Plaza but only two bullets hit him and both came from above and behind. All nine of the forensic scientists appointed by the HSCA in the late 70's agreed to that. There is no medical or forensic evidence that JFK was shot from the front or side.
The HSCA was biased and had its own agenda. Case in point they flagrantly LIED about testimony given by the many witnesses interviewed. However, if you do use the HSCA as a source then you must also use their statement that there was a likelihood of conspiracy.
Furthermore, my use of the term "may have been shot twice in the head" is used b/c neither myself NOR anyone else on this thread has ALL the info.
Those who claim to have all the info are not being honest with themselves.
@seth917 What agenda??? What lies?? The HSCA claimed there was suspicion of a conspiracy based upon the audio tapes of the alleged gunshots in Dealey from a police radio that was "stuck" on open. The suspected police officer was H.B McClain but it's been conclusively shown it's wasn't his microphone that was stuck because he wasn't where the acoustic experts said he would have to be to record the assumed 4 shots. You need to do some homework.
@seth917 YOU need to check it out! The committee was ready to announce that there was no evidence of a conspiracy until those supposed scientists made their announcement about the 4 shots and the "recording". They based their findings on some extreme assumptions. By the way, you never answered the "agenda" and "lies"part of my question.
The "script" was set by the government 15 years earlier during the coverup. The Coverup was lead by the FBI in conjunction with the WhiteHouse e.g. the Warren Commission (WC) was created by LBJ to offset and replace the buddy commissions in both houses of congress that were begining to take form.
The WC was used to overpower such commissions and it succeeded. The FBI fed the WC EXACTLY the select info needed to tell the story.
@seth917 And you have not produced one shred of evidence to support this entertaining theory. The CT crowd has concocted dozens of different scenarios about who killed JFK. Your supposed scheme contains hundreds of people who have remained mysteriously silent nearly 50 years after the assassination and decades after the HSCA filed its report. Your theory is preposterous and silly.
A key issue is that the conspiracy was so large, with so many players - a team for the killing and a different team for the coverup - that it is frightening to think such a conspiracy could happen.
This was not a small consipacy it has a huge one.
The EVIDENCE is OVERWHELMING that the official Gov't story is incomplete and grossly hiding facts about the murder.
@seth917 If the evidence is so OVERWHELMING and it's all over the web and the conspiracy is so large with different teams performing different jobs, why don't you gather all this overwhelming evidence, wrap it up in a cute little package, contact an attorney so you can be advised how to turn it over to the authorities so we can all see justice done for JFK? You'll be famous!! You'll be a hero!! Unless you want to remain anonymous so you don't meet an untimely demise.
@seth917 But I'm willing to bet that the Govt. already knows your name because they're monitoring your posting on YouTube with dozens of secret agents from the shadow gov't who maintain a vigil on the "great cover-up".
@Abdallaview Nine forensic physicians, working for the HSCA in 1979, concluded that JFK was struck in the back of the head twice. There was no evidence that JFK was shot from the front or side. If you have an issue with their conclusions, take it up them, not me. Are you now going to say the nine physicians are part of the cover-up?
All you guys are idiots! take a look at all the evidence! from the warren comission to the conspiracy theory's james files black dog man badge man! this is all bull shit everyone knows who took all the shots, the one from the back and front it was,........Chuck Norris!
point is that eveyone comes up with these names "black dog man" Badge man" so whats the difference if I say chuck norris????? after all those names "black dog man" and " Badge Man" arent really evidence are thay?
Zapruder film shown to public is a manipulated copy, w/ frame sequence, number & limo/background relationship altered to obscure evidence of multiple shooters, 8 shots in 2 or 3 killzones. Limo is out of synch w/ background to hide Greer coming to complete stop for 2 sec when umbrella man signalled allowing 2 headshots 1 sec apart. Also, Stemmons Fwy sign was struck. A French journalist saw the original Z film, no cuts or breaks, names several shooters. Google/youtube 'Great Zapruder Film Hoax'.
TSBD employee & Interpen member Danny Arce is photographed in front of the Dal Tex building speaking into a radio at the time of the shooting.Ironically he was also a cuban.
Can a still photo show a person 'talking into a radio' ?
Or
Is it more likely that who ever it is , he's actually listening to a radio ? Fill in the rest w/the 'key suspect' being a overactive imagination & thinking you see things in photo's that aren't actually there . The list suspects of ppl u just think u see in photo's after & during the asassination in DP are in the 100's is not 1000's . This would indicate JFK was killed by many different ppl at the same time . Impossible .
You seem to have a vast list suspects ? Did it ever occur to you that having many reasons to kill JFK works against conspiracy ? Real world investigations exculpate the innocent in order to incriminate the guilty by pairing down suspects .
The evidence that you tout is strong for many suspects equally . Which means it's no good at all .
You mean in spite of ? JFK kept the Cuban's in Miami informed about his actions , was doing all he could to bring down Cuba by ordering the CIA (100 million dollar Operation Mongoose) to sabotage the Cuban economy and assassinate Fidel Castro , even going so far as to have a Cuban terrorist blow up a Cuban commercial air-liner and then harbor him in the US . This not made Fidels beard grey , it's reported it was enough to curl his toes .
OK , I'll admit that having a zillion 'Men Who Didn't Kill Kennedy' is good for book , video sales , personal profit & undeserved self aggrandizement when it comes to hoaxing JFK's death .
Everyone can have someone to blame personally :
(R) can blame the left-Soviets
(D) can blame the right-CIA-FBI-SS-LBJ
(N) can blame (S) Texas big oil
If blaming a Marxists LHO isn't sufficiently satisfying , everyone can blame the Mafia .
I was suspicious that Pierre Finck was in attendence at BOTH the JFK & RFK autopsies , after learning this from a supposed learned conspiracy theorists . After reading 'Coroner' by Dr. Noguchi (Coroner of the Stars) I found out why this CTer told only half the story .
Conspiracists and 'forensic pathologists' Dr. Cyril Wecht had recommended Finck to Dr. Noguchi because of his expertise and to delay any political ramifications by him being absent , because of his non-political affiliation .
The greatest generation begat the baby boomer generation that begat the YT dumbest generation !
Worthless sheeple the entire rodeo . Not a original thought in anyones head besides what conspiracy theorists have banged their dumunitive brains with .
Ive examined ALL the evidence many many times, & now with enhanced footage, and SS fail, I cant come to any other conclusion than its an inside job and conspiracy. There is no reason they can fabricate that excuses removing the presidents only SS protection in an open top limo-- its assinine and an obvious clue something is very very wrong. I saw the clip that details the SS being purposely removed right before the president was murdered. What does it say about our government folks?!!!
The SS Standdown . Another phoney . JFK gets off Air Force 1 and immediately goes into a unscreened crowd of people , against the advice of the SS , anyone of them could of blasted him like Gov. Wallace got it .
It says that public schools failed you . The best 5 years of your life in the 3rd grade ?
AAMOF the Dealey Plaza motorcade was the most heavily defended in history . The SS were all in proper places , they were about to get on the frwy and thats why your little brain blew a fuse .
anyone who wants to see it can watch the film on youtube and see Emory Roberts stand up in the follow up car and order 2 agents to stay behind.ROberts also ordered agents to stay put during the shooting.Roberts was also good buddies with LBJ.Check out Vince Palamara's work on the SS.
@seth917 -- I definitely agree-- theres way more going on here than what weve been
fed by the government. LBJ also abruptly changed the parade route at the airport upon arrival, very suspicious. Kennedy had the potential of becoming an even greater president but never got the chance-- a huge loss.
If the CIA wanted to keep their involvment a secret why would they allow all these supposed agents to mill around in Dealey Plaza and be photographed ?
Sounds like another conspiracy phoney to me .
I can assure you if a expert was allowed to examine these supposed CIA agents in photo's , it would be proved another in the long 45 year hisrtory of JFK hoaxes .
I disagree.They are there.Of course its not a crime to be standing there,sure is interesting though that so many black ops people just happened to be there to witness his murder.Almost as if they knew in advance and wanted to see it happen.3 CIA agents are also on film at RFK's murder.
And by doing so , just to make it easy and convienent so in the future they can be identified by CTer's , they are photographed at the scene of the crime ?
That doesn't sound the sophisticated and much polished CIA that I have heard about ? AAMOF sounds like another poorly thought out CTer hoax.
Clint Hill got on the running board and was not left behind , his assignment was protecting the First Lady AND NOT JFK , that was Roy Kellerman's job .
Rybka was scheduled to remain at Love Field (Per Roberts written daylog) to prepare for JFK's departure , a mix up in signals had him slightly confused .
SS Agents have blabbered about this 'Big Whopper' for years , nothing to the story at all .
BTW you can't state 'They are there' by a cult belief system like 'conspiracy' .
AAMOF it's not only extremely unlikely that they are there , there's no photographic analysis by Forensic Anthropologists (HSCA used them) to prove this 'Big Whopper' of a story .
AAMOF there are so many 'Big Whoppers in this case , you can take it for granted that they're little more than passing thoughts and no attempt for verification by others .
IOW's , If 3 CIA agents are at a RFK rally does that make them suspicious ?
Do you not know that RFK , sent by JFK himself , helped the CIA come up w/dirty tricks to be used against Fidel & Cuba , culminating in 'Op Mongoose' because the Kennedy Family name had been besmirched by the BoP Invasion fiasco ? I don't see a connection w/the CIA , but do see SBS killing RFK because he promised to sell jet fighters to Israel , & thusly frustrating his efforts to return to his homeland , Palestine .
TSBD EMPLOYEE ROLE CALL AFTER ASSASSINATION Adams/Arnold/Burns/Campbell/Davis/ Dean/Dorman/Dougherty/Garner/ Hawkins/Hines/Hoyt/Molina/Moore/ Lawrence/Lovelady/Parkers/Piper/Rachley/Reese/Reid/Romach/Sanders/Shelley/ Slack/Stanton/Styles/Truly/Williams x2/Wilson : ACCOUNTED FOR AFTER ASSASSINATION LHO : MISSING AFTER ASSASSINATION Don't see any Arce on the hit list parade do you ?
driver..yes. In the full video you can see EVERYONE in car jerk forward right before final shot. All SS...no, you see the video where the SS guys get pissed after getting the STAND DOWN (move away from) order.
if jackie had pushed him on to the floor she could have saved him from the final shot. you can see mrs connally actually pushes her husband to the floor and gets on top of him. meanwhile the 2 uselsss secret service do fuck all, they give no guidance or help. the driver Greer actually slows the car down as he looks back twice, making it easier for the final shot. The other Kellerman actually ducks from the last shot - hell he's suppose to be there to take a bullet for the president.
EXACTLY you think just the way i do have you seen where the SS men were called off the car and then continued slower and slower until he was murdered, inside job no doubt about it! the files on this assassination are to be released in 2029 no doubt to make sure all involved die of natural causes, so they cant surve justice!
@innit27 Your ability to "hindsight" an event is remarkable. To be able to know, by looking at some pictures, what the motives are of the key players in the limo is staggering. You are gifted.
no way was connally involved, he was nearly killed himself!! would YOU agree to sit in front of a man in a car that was to be shot at several times with a high powered rifle?? Don't think so.......
notice the driver as he is looking back & only when he see JFK head exploeds he put's he's own head down and floors it' it also from other footage the driver slowed down just before the head shot, you see the back up car behiend & the cops on the bike slow down so not to hit the back of SS -100X, so he is a simple man, that does not mean that with high powered gun shot's rinning out & they just drive along normally, it should have sped up to 44ml's+ so the driver was involved & connely.
this is a conspiracy for many reasons first if you see where the goverment says the bullet was shot from and you see how kennedys head jerks then it can't be right becuase where they say it came from then his head should do forward not towards the way the bullet came and to weegmon comment she was retrieving a part of his head not helping the guy look at a video zoomed in and you will see her grabbing it and the first bullet shot the goverment released a statement saying that bullet made 6 wound
if you watch Gov Connally he reacts to a bullet coming through the windshield.He flinches and raises his left shoulder and arm as it passes him on the left.Then JFK is hit in the throat from the front.
ppl its clearly the limo driver just watch it again and pay attention to him da whole time. He pulls a gun out and turns around and shoots him clearly in front of everyone!! And thats why his wife freaks ou and tries to leave the car.
go to google video and search JFK - Case for Conspiracy II - The Kennedy Assassination Films it shows clearly that jackie was trying to get a part of jfk`s brain that landed on the trunk and not trying to leave.
the shot came from the limo driver..."I agree, although it's difficult to see for sure, because of the 'doctoring up' that was done by the assassins".
The driver was the trigger man, only because of the positioning of Jackie & JFK. Had they been opposite, the drivers assistant would have pulled the trigger.
One only has to look at about 3/5 seconds at which driver turns aroung & head pointing at JFK, just as his head is blown off. I'd bet my life he was the shooter but CIA & Org./Crime did it
November 22, 1963, the day Jacqueline Kennedy's heart shattered. RIP JFK :3
JoyBearHug76 1 week ago
Folks-look-at-the-top-of-his-head.You-can-see-the-bullet-exit-out-the-top.The.shooter-was-in-the-trunk.
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
Throat shot came from the front, medical evidence proves this.
cruisersism 4 months ago
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I cannot believe the meteoroid theory hasn't been looked into yet. As we all know, the perseid meteor showers come every november when the earth passes through a cluster of meteors (this also happens in August with the Leonid meteor showers, which obviously killed princess Diana.) I find this to be a more plausible explanation compared to the wacky and zany theories the looneys come up with. XoD lolol
Jaxson0023 5 months ago
driver didnt shoot him mafia didnt shoot him oswald didnt shoot him government not stupid enough to shoot him so who shot him ?
Jakeds12352 7 months ago
@Jakeds12352 haha cant u remember 9/11 or sept 11
14allovus 5 months ago
@Jakeds12352 havent you heard his speech just a few weeks before he got killed check it out speech/jfk
14allovus 5 months ago
The driver didnt shoot him. why are these dumbasses thinking it is
DRPREPER 7 months ago
Is it just me or in every single video of this assassination is there a clearly visible bullet streak that looks like its coming from the sky above?
rsmcgranahan 7 months ago
if u notice the govenor leans back out of the line of fire just before the shot
kixxclub 9 months ago
There is no question...It angers me still to this day that our idiots in power still believe that Lee Harvey Oswald did this alone...
Beasterdamus 10 months ago
the visual and ballistic evidence tells which direction the shots came from- now you know why this film was suppressed from the public for 12 years by time life mag. a known cover for the cia- the guy who owned it henry luce ran it like a cia flack when it came to foreign policy news- his wife caire booth luce sposored anit-castro raids and hated kennedy. you can see gov. connally turn around with his steton in his hand when the official bs says he was hit by the same bullet- the bullet paused
larrywheels 10 months ago
the shot needs to come from below becoz kenndy is facing down, and entry was at forehead, so either inside the car, the drain or the drive, i really dont see how the grassy knoll shooter could be it, except that people n james files have said the last 2 shots were almost simultaneous, so they shot together but theres no exit wound on the left side of the head for a hit from the right to the head as the grassy knoll shot would have to inflict.
mikefan09 10 months ago
@mikefan09 may have been Connally from below...or even Jackie, from below and to the side. Or the driver. Or all 3. What better way to keep Jackie o out of the way of a bullett's path than by using her or someone in the car as a shooter. I've often wondered where the throat shot came from - its from the frontish area, not the back, but can't pinpoint a shooter, a;though one person mentioned a Bolden, across the street from the umbrella dude, who had been erased from films somehow.
sydfan526 10 months ago
@sydfan526 my thoughts exactly. definetly a shooter in the car to my mind, how many people have even thought that the sniper teams outside the car, though genuine, were a sideshow, a ditraction in themselves, to the real one shooter in the car who could definetly do it, or many like u suggest, if two or three shooters were in the car n did it in a sly way as is possible, everyone would be looking for the snipers outside for 50 years and not really focus on them. connally is best covered
mikefan09 10 months ago
@sydfan526 ive got two suspects really for the throat shot, mrs connally, becoz she could easily hide a gun in that flower bouquet and she could see the prez well, the other is a suspected sniper in a drain by the side of the road exactly where the car passes by. then ofcourse theres jackie, but yes definetly a front entry.
mikefan09 10 months ago
@mikefan09 there were lots of shots(called reports by some folks) like maybe over a dozen. Connally once said he turned to the others in the car and said 'looks like they're gonna kill all of us now.' So how about this. theres the shooters in the car(shoot or be shot too!). theres 2 pistol shooters, one across the street from umbrella man, and another in a red shirt on the grassyknoll steps. And 5 or 6 rifle nests, incl the drain. All to make it look like he wasn't shot by person in car.
sydfan526 9 months ago
@mikefan09 hey, I think I found the throat shot person - easily seen on the zapruder footage. Just as jfk comes past that traffic sign...look at the upper right of the frame, which shows the people across the street from the umbrella guy. One of those folks non-chalantly lowers their arm to the horizontal position and just fires a pistol at him and hits him in the throat bang! I'm suprised not much publicity has been given to this. Looks like 2 people standing close & one shoots.
sydfan526 9 months ago
@sydfan526 ok ill try check it out n get back to ya on wot i think i see, i tried this film theres nothin to see up that area except one guys white trousers, hes on his own and after the shot moves a hand, dunno if anything is in it, i can believe some shooters were as brazen as u say since no one would really be expecting it, except the guys trained to protect the prez, who were all either in on it or pulled away, damn cowards, cant believe they obeyed that order to sray where they were!
mikefan09 9 months ago
@sydfan526 ok do u mean the couple it looks like, one guy in sort of yellow top, yeh looks like a couple holding a camera to film, but they do put it down as the president grabs his throat, ofcourse there not in the frame when jfk is shot thats all covered by the sign, which i think they planned, but the dont even look at the prez as normal people would do as he goes past, they sort of remain focused on the area where he was, and he put something in his pocket or behind him, suspicious yeh.
mikefan09 9 months ago
@sydfan526 yeh he looks like he was holding something in his hand and brings it down, could be a pistol, grey silver, acts so weirdly not looking at prez, neither of them, like they overly trying to hide their action, too professional, think his was the first shot or someone in front, seems like just before kennedy is covered by the sign the guy was aiming, fired when kennedy was behind the sign, & then bring down like nothings happened, must've been silenced.
mikefan09 9 months ago
Goodness there are a lot of ignorant people on youtube.
The "umbrella man" is Louie Witt of Dallas, who thought that Kennedy would recognize the black umbrella as an insult aimed at Kennedy (or his father, more speficially) His father was a bit of a Nazi-appeaser before WWII. Witt testified at the HSCA and provided the umbrella he carried that day.
oldmac1 10 months ago
It was THE DRIVER that shot him from the Front. The Grassy Knoll guys were just there to assure the death if the driver William Greer backed out.
TheDigitalRose 10 months ago
look at the driver at 42 sec into it you can see the muzzle flash from the weapon, ho wdid he do this easy he held the gun with his left hand while drivin with his right pulled the trigger brought the gun down and ducked down along with everyone else and played it safe
copenhagenboy1 11 months ago
@copenhagenboy1 ...Only the president didn't get shot at 42 seconds. He is falling down and makes no sudden jerks when you see the glare. I'm pretty sure the glare is just the driver side mirror.
therealfactor 10 months ago
But the messy end of a gunshot is the exit wound. Better yet play some JFK reloaded and just shoot the driver, waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy more effective.
Dark0Strike 11 months ago
There is no conspiracy here. The bankers did this.
EnigmaticUnseen 11 months ago
actually there were 12 gunme: 2 behind the grassy knoll, 2 or 3 in the tsbd building, 2 or 3 other bystandards that just happen to have guns and wanted to shoot, and the loch-ness monster and elvis, who was coming out with a new album and wanted to raise sales...there have been so many people involved that I might have been involved and i wasn't even born yet...
76reliant 11 months ago
I agree, there is no way the head shot came from behind ... with that angle and where Jackie is next to the president, a bullet from behind would have blown her face off too. Just look where her head is when the bullet strikes. If it came from behind it would have followed though right into her face.. WAKE UP PEOPLE!
kmmj8811 11 months ago
@kmmj8811 That's an exit wound, not an entry wound.
EnigmaticUnseen 11 months ago
@kmmj8811
You're Right, it didn't come from behind, Coroner said fatal shot came from the front, Video shows the Driver Shooting him from the front. Driver was CIA Agent William Greer.
TheDigitalRose 10 months ago
@kmmj8811 You obviously have a loose grasp of trajectory projectiles. He died from a gun shot, not a fucking boomerang.
therealfactor 10 months ago
@kmmj8811 Its a video dumb-ass! It looks like she was in front of him, obviously she wasn't. Two things- The wound was on his right side. Her face is on his left. Don't come up with conclusions until you think about it fully.
jeffdowning33 8 months ago
There was more than one sniper. He got shot twice, once in the Throat and then the body. And if you luck carefully at :
0:38 and 0:39 you can see the trajectory the bullet came in, it came from the top right, but the 2 other shots came from the back.
Dr4k3fullOn3 11 months ago
More than 3 shots. 1 Missed and hurt James Tague, 1 through Kennedy's throat (which can be seen here) and according to John Connally, he wasn't hit until he was turning from right to left. So that happens after the throat shot. 1 has to hit Connally and there's still the headshot of Kennedy. That's atleast 4 shots. Then there's the broken window and sunroof bulletholes.
11DNA11 11 months ago
the guy who killed L.H.O did not shoot him because he hated him he did it because he did not want him leaking info
Evan11of10 1 year ago
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well actually jackie shouldnt have any responsibility for his death u see on the back of the limo there are two spots and handles for 2 secret service men to hold and stand on so they should be in the back of the limo but the captain or whatever he was called them off when jfk first got on limo after getting of the plane and there job was to basicly shield the president but this would lead to conspiracy and there is plenty of evidence and reasons and vids explaining how this could be
SteelerFan7Films101 1 year ago
well actually jackie shouldnt have any responsibility for his death u see on the back of the limo there are two spots and handles for 2 secret service men to hold and stand on so they should be in the back of the limo but the captain or whatever he was called them off when jfk first got on limo after getting of the plane and there job was to basicly shield the president but this would lead to conspiracy and there is plenty of evidence and reasons and vids explaining how this could be
SteelerFan7Films101 1 year ago
retards he got shot from behind. as you can see mrs kennedy was pulling him down into the seat to protect him.
DroppedGT 1 year ago
The "pink Mist" looks to be in front of kennedy suggesting a shot from behind. . . .I still belive a conspiracy theory though.
rickyd0821 1 year ago
jfk got shot from the front twice.
state of play
1) connely get shot from behind
2) almost sim. jfk get shot from the front exiting the back as soon as he reappears from the sign
3) shot comes from the right below angle from the sewer.
TheDudleyheathens 1 year ago
Why would this guy have an open umbrella on a nice day? For shade?
paulypaulification 1 year ago
There is one shooter that missed the first shot and that's why the man in the front of the car turned his head to the right because he heard it then the second shot went through kenedys shoulder and through the man in the fronts shoulder the bullet that missed shattered into two pieces and was found
NinjaCat91 1 year ago
who was the man who opened his umbrella? does anyone know?
mikefan09 1 year ago
innit27....i never noticed the passenger ducking b4...there suppost to take a bullet for the presedent and hes fuckin ducking thats fucked up......james files shot jfk in the head
thefarrarman 1 year ago
he was hit just before the sign. then the second one he raises his hands and then lowers his right and taps on his mid chest?? indicating he was hit twice! then the head shot.
corporal1107 1 year ago
Watch carefully at around 38-39 second mark, you can see the trajectory of the bullet...it's almost like if it came raining down on him....it hits his right upper side of the head and blows that side off! before that last shot he was hit twice from behind!
tex214xas 1 year ago
Triangulated cross fire ......
tejastiger61 1 year ago
Why was there no ss men on, or running with the car? If it was an inside job, why do it so publicly?
jinkjack 1 year ago
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DoctorMonkeyWrench 1 year ago
@jinkjack @jinkjack - THere was no SS man running with the car for the following reason: youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8
They were ordered to stand down.
I've seen LOTS of evidence of conspiracy, the most comprehensive being the massive "Evidence of Revision" films, but of all the "evidence", THIS one little video clip is the piece that makes me the saddest. It makes my stomach drop when the guy throws his hands up. :(
DoctorMonkeyWrench 1 year ago
@jinkjack look up terror management theory and groupthink (if you believe in that sort of thing it could be argued "they" did it again with 9/11)
poeticsparrow 1 year ago
The rifle used for the assasination for lee Harvey Oswald was a ww1 carcano rifle. But I agree there must have been 2 shooters as they come from both directions.
JamJobazoble 1 year ago
q. was Lee a highly qua. sniper - what kind of bullets was used to go through JFK @ the GOV. considering the MODEL of rifle @ distance -- was this tube of bullets available for anyone in 1963 - i agree there was another bullet from front @ its a special one???
ejasem1 1 year ago
The first shot came from the building next to the one oswald was in because it hit JFK in the back going through him and hitting connely...as you can see him lift up and turn to his side.The shot taken was not from oswald because Oswald th angle of the shot wouldnt have allowed the bullet to hit connely.The shot to the head was from the front also making it impossible for Oswald to have been the shooter.
Timinater1994 1 year ago
Wasn't there a closed session on-going in Congress to impeach VP LBJ that very day? JFK was going to outst him from VP ticket his next term. LBJ wanted the Presidency so bad & he VP's are forgotten. LBJ, Nixon & several prominent Texans hated the Kennedy's; besides a few steadfast anti-communists and elite war profiteers. Didnt ex-CIA Hunt confess that LBJ ordered the hit. Look at who gained, Johnson, Nixon, Ford (Warren Commision), BUSH Sr and indirectly Bush Jr.
CORPARANOID 1 year ago
@CORPARANOID No.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
William Cooper said the driver William Greer did it - look for it.
beckweth 1 year ago
The bldgs that were ordered NOT BOMBED WW2 was IG FARBEN German Assets financed HITLER and ROOSEVELT CIA was created & Central Offices were in IG FARBEN bldgs during and after the war IG&GM made the GAS for the Chambers Dupont produced plastic with IG. Bush created US Statesmen of Hitlers Henchmen undermining our LAWS Lincoln and Kennedy Murders BY ROTHSCHILD BY abolishing the FED RES. Exec. Order 11110 by Kennedy 6 months b4 his death
JOHNSON RECINDED EX ORDER 11110 for ROTHSCHILD immediately
mastior 1 year ago
LMAO NOBODY EVER LOOKS AT THE TWO PEOPLE IN FRONT OF HIM!! they both fall foward at the same time AS THE OTHER SHOT HITS HIS FRONT HEAD!
PharaohII 1 year ago
I think bullet came from front and not behind...
EsotericDesi 1 year ago
@EsotericDesi
He was shot from in front AND from behind. But the big shot came from in front
seth917 1 year ago
As Jack Ruby stated before he died
ipolson 1 year ago
Its as simple as this..... LBJ killed kennedy.
beaurain82 1 year ago
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@beaurain82 "Its as simple as this..... LBJ killed kennedy" What he really meant was "It's as stewpid as this" AAMOF JFK was so sickly there was a "secret arrangement" between LBJ and JFK in the event Kennedy was "incapicated". On Air Force One Gen. Godfrey McHugh said "he found LBJ in the bathroom crying hysterically" The Kennedy Assassination : 24 Hours After Steven M. Gillion
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
cont'd. And I am NOT an expert on gunfire, but if you are hit from the side-front you go backwards on an angle following the natural momentum and if you are hit from the back you stumble forward and slump down on your legs. I think the public assassinations in less than five years time!!! of JFK, Bobby (who sympathized with the black people) and Martin Luther King was racially-motivated.
goldengirl67 1 year ago
I agree...
EsotericDesi 1 year ago
It makes sense for the final sniper with a high-powered rifle and scope to be already positioned with some adequate cover (against the fence) from everyone around with a get-away car running in the parking lot. The sniper deals the final shot while all eyes are forward on the President, runs and tosses the gun in the backseat, jumps in the car and tears out of there within seconds. If you count how many few seconds were left before Kennedy went through the underpass, that sniper had to succeed.
goldengirl67 1 year ago
@goldengirl67
Thats the big question. How did the sniper in the grassy knoll escape...
Apparently the parking lot behind the knoll was crowded with cars... Nonetheless their must have been some form of getaway vehicle - if the shooter simply ran, it would have been obvious to spectators
seth917 1 year ago
if the zapruder vid is really untouched,it is obvious that the killer shot came from the side,not back.......
aligoulou 1 year ago
Some suspect that the Umbrella man was Roy Hargraves & the Cuban beside him was Felipe Vidal Santiago
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
Jackie was thinkin' "I'm getting the heck out of here, now!"
walrustusks 2 years ago
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sgtredbluered 2 years ago
Scientific evidence has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there were multiple shooters that day. There were two in the Dal-Tex building, three in the book depository, two behind the picket fence, one in the manhole, one behind the fountain, one just to the left of the Stemmons Freeway sign, Connelly had a .44 magnum concealed in his coat pocket, LBJ was riding shotgun right behind the limousine and Jackie was packing heat also.....wake up America, you're future is at stake here!!!!!!!!
walrustusks 2 years ago
dont forget that the driver concealed a gun in the front passenger's head!
TheForlornDreams 2 years ago
....and did I forget to mention that George Bush was behind it all (per the Democrats).
walrustusks 2 years ago
lol
hungryhhippo 2 years ago
@walrustusks
Hillarious
seth917 1 year ago
Anybody can see it was a high powered rifle shot coming from the front side in an angle, Not Lee Harvey, Please!
Abdallaview 2 years ago 10
@Abdallaview Impossible. There were no entry wounds to the front of JFK. This was established back in 1979 by the HSCA. All of the nine forensic doctors who examined the x-rays, photos and autopsy reports agreed that there is no medical evidence that the president was hit from the front or the side. Both entry wounds were to the back of the head. The metal fragments extracted from Kennedy and Connolly matched the rounds fired by the gun owned by Oswald. Cased closed. Move on.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Connelly did indeed have lead fragments in him, but none could have come from the pristine Magic Bullet 'found'/planted on the gurney next to JFK at Parkland, ala Arlen Specter. The weights of the recovered Connelly bullet fragments are greater by far than the negligible weight of missing grains of the Magic Bullet, and Connelly had significant unrecovered bullet fragments that were in him at his death many years later.
chubbsuperfly 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1
The Zapruder film clearing shows Kennedy being trust backwards from the impact of the shot. This would mean that at least one shot came from the front. It is also likely from the Zapruder film that he was shot from behind as well, a fraction of a second before the frontal shot, as his head was thrust an inch or two forward prior to being trust all the way back.
seth917 1 year ago
@seth917 You can claim he was shot from the front as much as you want but you have a problem with the claim because there are no entrance wounds to the front or side of his head. Plus, people, when struck by a bullet do not move in the same direction of the bullet. Hollywood loves to show people being blown through the air when they're shot. It's very dramatic but not representative of what really happens.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1
Have you ever shot a gun before?
seth917 1 year ago
@seth917 Many times and of many different calibers. Do a little research to find out what ballistic experts say what happens to people when they get shot. People do not get propelled backwards when shot. You cannot determine the location of a shooter based on the reaction of the victim. Furthermore, JFK's head actually moves forward slightly when he was struck. You claim there's evidence there was more than one shooter. Really??!!! I don't think so.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1
Its called common sense.
Additionally, as I've heard and stated previously kennedy may have been shot in the head twice, at least - Once from behind and a fraction of a second later from the front.
This explains the motion of the head.
seth917 1 year ago
@seth917 Your "common sense", as plausible as you think it may be gets trumped by the laws of physics and forensic science. To use your words "Kennedy may have been shot.." Well, there "may" have been a dozen gunmen blasting away at him in Dealey Plaza but only two bullets hit him and both came from above and behind. All nine of the forensic scientists appointed by the HSCA in the late 70's agreed to that. There is no medical or forensic evidence that JFK was shot from the front or side.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1
The HSCA was biased and had its own agenda. Case in point they flagrantly LIED about testimony given by the many witnesses interviewed. However, if you do use the HSCA as a source then you must also use their statement that there was a likelihood of conspiracy.
Furthermore, my use of the term "may have been shot twice in the head" is used b/c neither myself NOR anyone else on this thread has ALL the info.
Those who claim to have all the info are not being honest with themselves.
seth917 1 year ago
@seth917 What agenda??? What lies?? The HSCA claimed there was suspicion of a conspiracy based upon the audio tapes of the alleged gunshots in Dealey from a police radio that was "stuck" on open. The suspected police officer was H.B McClain but it's been conclusively shown it's wasn't his microphone that was stuck because he wasn't where the acoustic experts said he would have to be to record the assumed 4 shots. You need to do some homework.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1
Consipiracy was a KEY part of the determination of the HSCA.
Also, their determination came from much MORE than a lone police microphone.
Check it out.
seth917 1 year ago
@seth917 YOU need to check it out! The committee was ready to announce that there was no evidence of a conspiracy until those supposed scientists made their announcement about the 4 shots and the "recording". They based their findings on some extreme assumptions. By the way, you never answered the "agenda" and "lies"part of my question.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1
The "Agenda" was to follow the "SCRIPT".
The "script" was set by the government 15 years earlier during the coverup. The Coverup was lead by the FBI in conjunction with the WhiteHouse e.g. the Warren Commission (WC) was created by LBJ to offset and replace the buddy commissions in both houses of congress that were begining to take form.
The WC was used to overpower such commissions and it succeeded. The FBI fed the WC EXACTLY the select info needed to tell the story.
seth917 1 year ago
@seth917 And you have not produced one shred of evidence to support this entertaining theory. The CT crowd has concocted dozens of different scenarios about who killed JFK. Your supposed scheme contains hundreds of people who have remained mysteriously silent nearly 50 years after the assassination and decades after the HSCA filed its report. Your theory is preposterous and silly.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1
The evidence is all over the web!
You can find it!!!
Just put the pieces together...
A key issue is that the conspiracy was so large, with so many players - a team for the killing and a different team for the coverup - that it is frightening to think such a conspiracy could happen.
This was not a small consipacy it has a huge one.
The EVIDENCE is OVERWHELMING that the official Gov't story is incomplete and grossly hiding facts about the murder.
seth917 1 year ago
@seth917 If the evidence is so OVERWHELMING and it's all over the web and the conspiracy is so large with different teams performing different jobs, why don't you gather all this overwhelming evidence, wrap it up in a cute little package, contact an attorney so you can be advised how to turn it over to the authorities so we can all see justice done for JFK? You'll be famous!! You'll be a hero!! Unless you want to remain anonymous so you don't meet an untimely demise.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1
LOL
Exactly...
And I have my own life to live and time is of the essence, but maybe one day I will my friend :)
Take care
seth917 1 year ago
@seth917 But I'm willing to bet that the Govt. already knows your name because they're monitoring your posting on YouTube with dozens of secret agents from the shadow gov't who maintain a vigil on the "great cover-up".
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1
Don't worry, my friend..
The worlds very different today... Including the government...
For man holds in his mortal hands, the power to access the internet... and the power to...
seth917 1 year ago
@Abdallaview High powered, yes, but possibly NOT a rifle, but a Remington Fireball xp-100 with a mercury load. see James Files on You Tube.
chubbsuperfly 1 year ago
@Abdallaview Nine forensic physicians, working for the HSCA in 1979, concluded that JFK was struck in the back of the head twice. There was no evidence that JFK was shot from the front or side. If you have an issue with their conclusions, take it up them, not me. Are you now going to say the nine physicians are part of the cover-up?
autoad 1 year ago
All you guys are idiots! take a look at all the evidence! from the warren comission to the conspiracy theory's james files black dog man badge man! this is all bull shit everyone knows who took all the shots, the one from the back and front it was,........Chuck Norris!
gamer10884 2 years ago
wish they'd have shot you so we wouldn't have had to read that stupid joke.
hungryhhippo 2 years ago
point is that eveyone comes up with these names "black dog man" Badge man" so whats the difference if I say chuck norris????? after all those names "black dog man" and " Badge Man" arent really evidence are thay?
gamer10884 2 years ago
Zapruder film shown to public is a manipulated copy, w/ frame sequence, number & limo/background relationship altered to obscure evidence of multiple shooters, 8 shots in 2 or 3 killzones. Limo is out of synch w/ background to hide Greer coming to complete stop for 2 sec when umbrella man signalled allowing 2 headshots 1 sec apart. Also, Stemmons Fwy sign was struck. A French journalist saw the original Z film, no cuts or breaks, names several shooters. Google/youtube 'Great Zapruder Film Hoax'.
starmanskye 2 years ago
Conspiracy believers are weak minded fools.
gaserjd 2 years ago
i guess they watch star wars too.
hungryhhippo 2 years ago
@gaserjd
People that believe everything their government tells them are naive, ignorant and garner alot of pity.
seth917 1 year ago
TSBD employee & Interpen member Danny Arce is photographed in front of the Dal Tex building speaking into a radio at the time of the shooting.Ironically he was also a cuban.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
Can a still photo show a person 'talking into a radio' ?
Or
Is it more likely that who ever it is , he's actually listening to a radio ? Fill in the rest w/the 'key suspect' being a overactive imagination & thinking you see things in photo's that aren't actually there . The list suspects of ppl u just think u see in photo's after & during the asassination in DP are in the 100's is not 1000's . This would indicate JFK was killed by many different ppl at the same time . Impossible .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
You seem to have a vast list suspects ? Did it ever occur to you that having many reasons to kill JFK works against conspiracy ? Real world investigations exculpate the innocent in order to incriminate the guilty by pairing down suspects .
The evidence that you tout is strong for many suspects equally . Which means it's no good at all .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
"Ironically he was also a cuban"
You mean in spite of ? JFK kept the Cuban's in Miami informed about his actions , was doing all he could to bring down Cuba by ordering the CIA (100 million dollar Operation Mongoose) to sabotage the Cuban economy and assassinate Fidel Castro , even going so far as to have a Cuban terrorist blow up a Cuban commercial air-liner and then harbor him in the US . This not made Fidels beard grey , it's reported it was enough to curl his toes .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
OK , I'll admit that having a zillion 'Men Who Didn't Kill Kennedy' is good for book , video sales , personal profit & undeserved self aggrandizement when it comes to hoaxing JFK's death .
Everyone can have someone to blame personally :
(R) can blame the left-Soviets
(D) can blame the right-CIA-FBI-SS-LBJ
(N) can blame (S) Texas big oil
If blaming a Marxists LHO isn't sufficiently satisfying , everyone can blame the Mafia .
Watch out for big lists !
Boowhoo sniffle pift .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
I was suspicious that Pierre Finck was in attendence at BOTH the JFK & RFK autopsies , after learning this from a supposed learned conspiracy theorists . After reading 'Coroner' by Dr. Noguchi (Coroner of the Stars) I found out why this CTer told only half the story .
Conspiracists and 'forensic pathologists' Dr. Cyril Wecht had recommended Finck to Dr. Noguchi because of his expertise and to delay any political ramifications by him being absent , because of his non-political affiliation .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
The greatest generation begat the baby boomer generation that begat the YT dumbest generation !
Worthless sheeple the entire rodeo . Not a original thought in anyones head besides what conspiracy theorists have banged their dumunitive brains with .
Comical too !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Ive examined ALL the evidence many many times, & now with enhanced footage, and SS fail, I cant come to any other conclusion than its an inside job and conspiracy. There is no reason they can fabricate that excuses removing the presidents only SS protection in an open top limo-- its assinine and an obvious clue something is very very wrong. I saw the clip that details the SS being purposely removed right before the president was murdered. What does it say about our government folks?!!!
yambo59 2 years ago
The SS Standdown . Another phoney . JFK gets off Air Force 1 and immediately goes into a unscreened crowd of people , against the advice of the SS , anyone of them could of blasted him like Gov. Wallace got it .
Very poor thinking skills I might add .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
It says that public schools failed you . The best 5 years of your life in the 3rd grade ?
AAMOF the Dealey Plaza motorcade was the most heavily defended in history . The SS were all in proper places , they were about to get on the frwy and thats why your little brain blew a fuse .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
anyone who wants to see it can watch the film on youtube and see Emory Roberts stand up in the follow up car and order 2 agents to stay behind.ROberts also ordered agents to stay put during the shooting.Roberts was also good buddies with LBJ.Check out Vince Palamara's work on the SS.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
@yambo59
The evidence clearly points to more than 1 shooter and a conspiracy by the government to coverup this information up.
seth917 1 year ago
@seth917 -- I definitely agree-- theres way more going on here than what weve been
fed by the government. LBJ also abruptly changed the parade route at the airport upon arrival, very suspicious. Kennedy had the potential of becoming an even greater president but never got the chance-- a huge loss.
yambo59 1 year ago
Military Intelligence Officer James Powell was in the TSBD building.He wasnt the only one in Dealey Plaza at that moment.
Danny Arce-Interpen & TSBD employee
Alfredo Duran- a member of Brigade 2506 was photographed in Dealey Plaza.
William 'Rip' Robertson-CIA agent from JMWAVE photographed in Dealey Plaza.
John Adrian O'Hare-CIA/Operation 40
Isnt it amazing that all these CIA agents just happened to all be at the very spot where JFK was murdered.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
If the CIA wanted to keep their involvment a secret why would they allow all these supposed agents to mill around in Dealey Plaza and be photographed ?
Sounds like another conspiracy phoney to me .
I can assure you if a expert was allowed to examine these supposed CIA agents in photo's , it would be proved another in the long 45 year hisrtory of JFK hoaxes .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
I disagree.They are there.Of course its not a crime to be standing there,sure is interesting though that so many black ops people just happened to be there to witness his murder.Almost as if they knew in advance and wanted to see it happen.3 CIA agents are also on film at RFK's murder.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
And by doing so , just to make it easy and convienent so in the future they can be identified by CTer's , they are photographed at the scene of the crime ?
That doesn't sound the sophisticated and much polished CIA that I have heard about ? AAMOF sounds like another poorly thought out CTer hoax.
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
More garbage ! :
Clint Hill got on the running board and was not left behind , his assignment was protecting the First Lady AND NOT JFK , that was Roy Kellerman's job .
Rybka was scheduled to remain at Love Field (Per Roberts written daylog) to prepare for JFK's departure , a mix up in signals had him slightly confused .
SS Agents have blabbered about this 'Big Whopper' for years , nothing to the story at all .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
BTW you can't state 'They are there' by a cult belief system like 'conspiracy' .
AAMOF it's not only extremely unlikely that they are there , there's no photographic analysis by Forensic Anthropologists (HSCA used them) to prove this 'Big Whopper' of a story .
AAMOF there are so many 'Big Whoppers in this case , you can take it for granted that they're little more than passing thoughts and no attempt for verification by others .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
IOW's , If 3 CIA agents are at a RFK rally does that make them suspicious ?
Do you not know that RFK , sent by JFK himself , helped the CIA come up w/dirty tricks to be used against Fidel & Cuba , culminating in 'Op Mongoose' because the Kennedy Family name had been besmirched by the BoP Invasion fiasco ? I don't see a connection w/the CIA , but do see SBS killing RFK because he promised to sell jet fighters to Israel , & thusly frustrating his efforts to return to his homeland , Palestine .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
i like to call it the magic shot. there was 3 bullets there was just not 1 ppl that took shots there were 3
THEspoofCREW100 2 years ago
anyways as u can cleary see the driver was in on it and s.s.
playajaydaboss 2 years ago
driver..yes. In the full video you can see EVERYONE in car jerk forward right before final shot. All SS...no, you see the video where the SS guys get pissed after getting the STAND DOWN (move away from) order.
cpoky 2 years ago
if jackie had pushed him on to the floor she could have saved him from the final shot. you can see mrs connally actually pushes her husband to the floor and gets on top of him. meanwhile the 2 uselsss secret service do fuck all, they give no guidance or help. the driver Greer actually slows the car down as he looks back twice, making it easier for the final shot. The other Kellerman actually ducks from the last shot - hell he's suppose to be there to take a bullet for the president.
innit27 2 years ago 8
EXACTLY you think just the way i do have you seen where the SS men were called off the car and then continued slower and slower until he was murdered, inside job no doubt about it! the files on this assassination are to be released in 2029 no doubt to make sure all involved die of natural causes, so they cant surve justice!
justinmcquillen 2 years ago
@innit27
He was wearing a back brace and had limited movement.
seth917 1 year ago
@innit27 Your ability to "hindsight" an event is remarkable. To be able to know, by looking at some pictures, what the motives are of the key players in the limo is staggering. You are gifted.
autoad 1 year ago
C.O.N.S.P.I.R.A.C.Y. = "Could One 'Nut' Shoot President If Rear-view's Also Clogged Yet?"
I saw experts saying there was a tree in the way, so no sixth floor shooter could reach the president from there!
B.L.A.C.K.
O.P.E.R.A.T.I.O.N.S. = "Broadcasting Lone Assassin, Cover-up Eventually Required Agency To Invoke Our 'National Security'"
Acronym77 2 years ago
no way was connally involved, he was nearly killed himself!! would YOU agree to sit in front of a man in a car that was to be shot at several times with a high powered rifle?? Don't think so.......
kidlad80 2 years ago
conspiracy yes, connally no way. would connally put himself & his wife in a car he knew was going to be shot at?the man would have been a nut.
a1g77luvvy 2 years ago
notice the driver as he is looking back & only when he see JFK head exploeds he put's he's own head down and floors it' it also from other footage the driver slowed down just before the head shot, you see the back up car behiend & the cops on the bike slow down so not to hit the back of SS -100X, so he is a simple man, that does not mean that with high powered gun shot's rinning out & they just drive along normally, it should have sped up to 44ml's+ so the driver was involved & connely.
7071t6 2 years ago
this is a conspiracy for many reasons first if you see where the goverment says the bullet was shot from and you see how kennedys head jerks then it can't be right becuase where they say it came from then his head should do forward not towards the way the bullet came and to weegmon comment she was retrieving a part of his head not helping the guy look at a video zoomed in and you will see her grabbing it and the first bullet shot the goverment released a statement saying that bullet made 6 wound
Berzerker83 2 years ago
the umblella is supposed to mean somethuing with cuba bit could very well been a hidden dart gun
weegmon 2 years ago
I think Oswald acted alone. I would have tortured him.(Oswald not JFK) Not just killed him.
yellowsnow65 2 years ago
sorry meant :16
kerry1111111 2 years ago
Thanks,i see it now,im still trying to see a secret code though,or do they mean it was like a message to the shooters.?
eljamiro 2 years ago
Yeah some people think it was a signal to the shooters.
kerry1111111 2 years ago
if you watch Gov Connally he reacts to a bullet coming through the windshield.He flinches and raises his left shoulder and arm as it passes him on the left.Then JFK is hit in the throat from the front.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago
"This is my conspiracy theory that there must have been at least two shooters"
Pretty sure this theory has been around for a long time.
Kirtan215 3 years ago 2
were is the umbrella with its secret code?
eljamiro 3 years ago
it was the limo driver that basterd
charlesescalona 3 years ago
There is no way because watch the way his head jerks. It would go back and to the right not back and to the left.
yellowsnow65 2 years ago
The sequence of events clearly shows that the limo driver turned around to see what was happening, not to be a part of the horrible event. Get real.
hourlynewscaster 3 years ago
ppl its clearly the limo driver just watch it again and pay attention to him da whole time. He pulls a gun out and turns around and shoots him clearly in front of everyone!! And thats why his wife freaks ou and tries to leave the car.
lazic21 3 years ago
She isn't trying to leave shes helping up the Secret Service guy.
yellowsnow65 2 years ago
go to google video and search JFK - Case for Conspiracy II - The Kennedy Assassination Films it shows clearly that jackie was trying to get a part of jfk`s brain that landed on the trunk and not trying to leave.
a1g77luvvy 2 years ago
were is the umberella,?
eljamiro 3 years ago
@ 1:31 lower left near road sign
kerry1111111 2 years ago
america is so freaking currupt. its so sad.
ihatetilatequila 3 years ago 2
i think there are two shooters..dont know about the limo driver theory though.
kansaschick05 3 years ago
2 shooters?
no shit
jordanxxx 3 years ago
ONLY IDIOTS BELIEVE THE "THE DRIVER DID IT" BULLCRAP.
The appearance of a gun in the hand of the driver is nothing more than the passengers greasy head.
skipp311 3 years ago
are you blind? the shot came from the limo driver. watch againg
carechimbas 3 years ago
it blatently did not
DarthChess 3 years ago
i saw a documental called PROJECT MATRIX, there you can see more clear, that was a conspiracy. Poor JFK.
carechimbas 3 years ago
the shot came from the limo driver..."I agree, although it's difficult to see for sure, because of the 'doctoring up' that was done by the assassins".
The driver was the trigger man, only because of the positioning of Jackie & JFK. Had they been opposite, the drivers assistant would have pulled the trigger.
One only has to look at about 3/5 seconds at which driver turns aroung & head pointing at JFK, just as his head is blown off. I'd bet my life he was the shooter but CIA & Org./Crime did it
hanksnow2 3 years ago
um yah the bullet did come from the limo driver ur just to brain washed to see it
cooldaddy996 1 year ago
@cooldaddy996 Naw, the limo driver angle has been debunked to death, only trolls try and push it nowadays. :)
KoraxSP 1 year ago
@KoraxSP dude shut up it was the limo driver the government just has u to brain washed to see the real truth about every little thing in the world
cooldaddy996 1 year ago
Holy shat ive never watched the actuall headshot, poor guy
his head looked like a blown up water mellon when the bullet hit, fock...horrible
Hellbizzle 3 years ago
same here. that really freaked me, i didnt know that his head exploding was fuckin' caught on tape.
hmm. who to believe?
HEYxxHOLLY 3 years ago
freaky his head just gets 'blown off'
jinxme666 3 years ago
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meewsic 3 years ago