The lack of mutual trust (互信) between Beijing and the Pan democracy camp is one of the reason why the development of democracy in Hongkong is slow.
Until such a time that this lack of trust is removed or minimize, i can see a rocky road ahead. Of course, there are groups with vested interest who want to maintain or even make worst this situation for political gains. Have a guess who they are.
As for Beijing, there is always these perceived thread on China's stability, or you may say the Communist party fears to lose its grip on power, this of course depend on which side of politic you are from. Indications are these concerns/fear are real and should not be ignored.
Because of this concerns/fear, Beijing tends to sided with the government or the "pro-China" camps even if their performance were not up to par, "Better stick with the devil you know". Of course, they have a choice to engage/work with the pan democracy camp, i.e Black, white cats and the mouse theory, But this require courage, vision, and political wisdom on Beijing's side.
Improve communications between the two is the key to develop mutual trust, attempts to internationalize Kongkong's issues most certainly will not.
Great effort are required from both sides, it is more so from Beijing, they should make the first move, because they are from a position of power. It's a bit more tricky for the pan-democracy side, because they don't want to be seen as appeasement or Kowtow to Beijing.
Some guiding principles of Democracy: -Majority rule. -Minority rights. -Free and fair elections. -Guarantee of basic human rights. -Social, economic, and political pluralism. -Values of tolerance, pragmatism, cooperation, and compromise. -Sovereignty of the people. -Government based upon consent of the governed. -Equality before the law. -Due process of law. -Constitutional limits on government. etc etc ..... How many points does HongKong scores from the list !?
Some have asked me about the film "A fistful of Dynamite" , you can see a good trailer on my chanel. It's not my upload, i just favorites it from other.
Just following on my previous thread, there is a quote in the movie ...
"Let me tell you about a revolution. The people who read the books go to the poor people who don't read the books and say we have to make a change. So the poor people make the change. After the revolution, the people who read the books sit at their big polished tables and eat and eat and eat, but what has happened to the poor people? They're dead! "
In fact, i am 100% with them on many issues. I even quite like Mr. Wong as a presenter.
But there are certain thing one just have to know there is a limit.
I want to see them to be a political party that can really make a difference. I just don't agree with the tactics being employed. It could backfire on the LSD, It's just really not the way forward.
Sometime, checking the checks, balancing the balance is good for them.
What the current system we have in Hong Kong is definitely not democracy.
He's just challenging a system that is unjust. He's just only disrespecting an incompetent leader. I wish the pan-democrats would do more of that, instead of trying to get the Government on the negotiating table.
"the reason it still hasnt collapsed is because they inherited vast amount of wealth from the brit's colonial hong kong"
That will be right !!! beikehanmu. Yeah ...people have been sitting on their bums since their master left them in 97, that's my interpretation of you said, correct me if i mis-understood what you said in anyway, please, beikehanmu.
desperate for the shot from Mr.Big's private camera. i heard there is a camera that caps both brother Mao and Yukman in front of Mr.Big. please show link. thanks thanks.
go read something about how the hk legco is constituted, what is the legco is capable of.
learn something about how the government of hong kong is run.
the system in Hong Kong is so fucked up. the reason it still hasnt collapsed is because they inherited vast amount of wealth from the brit's colonial hong kong and some of the brit's political tactics are still in place.
I think it's unfair and arrogant to assume that only the LSD care !!!
I am suggesting that the way he is carrying on does not help himself or his coalition to be a credible party in the long run.
It does not help him to win the heart and mind of the people in the "centre" where the majority are come the next election. The real battle is to capture the centre or centre/left supports.
He might lose some of his core supporters if he is not careful although it is unlikely.
lostpeppble....sure...just like the others and treat this job as a career and wait for summer vacation.
do you know how injustice LegCo is? Majority is controlled by "special interest" group elected reps. And the game rules are not fair at all. We have been treated like fools the last past 10 years and we tried to be civilized with the gov. It is time to make a stand and let people know how unfair the system is.
The last thing Mr Wong wanted, is to be perceived as a unstable person. Unfortunately, perception is what count most of the time. People just don't have the damn time to do research !!!
He's running the risk of being marginalized and being unable to achieve what he set out to achieve at the first place.
Well, if his goal is merely being a dissenting voice, perhaps what he did may be enough.
But would that really be enough to help the unprivileged !?
LSD will always be existed if they really care about unprivileged and the community as a whole.
I stressed "community as a whole", the deliberate attempt to appeal to the lower echelon of society, i.e Speak their languages etc etc would only work to a certain extent, then what !?
Entertaining !? Yes !! Like clowns in a circus..
Raise awareness, perhaps.
The path forward, i think NOT.
The centre is where the battle ground really is, where social norms are generally observed.
To fight for the justice of marginalized groups are definitely the right thing to do. They are very serious agenda as they will be impacting on the welfare of many people, it's more so that people taken up these task should act responsibly.
I don't doubt their sincerity, but good intention is just simply not good enough ...... It's not just about doing the right thing, but also to do the thing right !! if you know what i mean.
If the other pro-democrats are actually effective in holding the government in check, and the government actually listens to the community, then I agree with you. But that's clearly not the case.
I've said it before, if HK society is just, and the government isn't so incompetent, I think there's no room for the LSD to exist.
Would you say George Washington is bad for rebelling against Britain, and is Martin Luther King bad for standing up against racism?
It's not just this incidence, these mobs have been carried on like they owned the damn place, like they are representing the majority of the Hongkong people...
I supporting the rights for dissenting voices, but not like this.
If indeed their intention is fighting for interest of the grass root people, then these kind of uncivilized, unruly behavior would weaken their argument and actually did them a disservice. Needless to say that they did not set a good example for the kids.
Some suggested that different approach would not work. Well, are you seriously suggesting this kind of behavior would bring about changes !?
The speaker of the house should have more control over some of the thuggish behavior (Especially the bold head guy)
This is a joke !!! It's pathetic !!! I dare say that Hong kong parliament is laughing stock for the world to see.
A complete misrepresentation of what democracy is, just as one should respect the rule of law on the street, so one should in the parliament. I don't think some of these guys ever seen how a parliament work in the West.
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Dominic549133 4 months ago
遊花園﹗遊花園﹗遊花園﹗
Dominic549133 4 months ago
收皮啦主席，收爹啦垃圾狗
wonginghun 8 months ago
要問就問題啦，唔好係度講香港點點點，你次次都比人踢出去有用咩？
gabl8a89 8 months ago
@gabl8a89 佢講D野有邊度錯，你講得出咩，你呢條親共垃圾
wonginghun 8 months ago
@gabl8a89 你老味你有冇聽清楚毓民講既內容嫁?大陸lay
popkid001 8 months ago
其實社民聯一路以黎講野都好有道理,我亦都唔理佢地背後有做野定冇做野,呢D係辨論大會就係要捉出問題討論,不過其他佢地都可以控制下個EQ,雖然呢個政府真係令人火滾,不過如果佢地可以平心靜氣,會令到更右多人願意聽佢地講乜,令更右多人支持!
kin313810 1 year ago
曾蔭權絕對是個陰毒的人。彭定康D衰格事情他做得更多更出色。董建華最少都有跳蚤市場，大笪地幫基層就業。
0809waiming 1 year ago 2
後天行政長官將發佈2010年的施政報告．今次曾蔭權政府班子能夠有所改善？社民連將再如何鞭韃不稱職的官員？讓大家拭目以待！
terrancesy 1 year ago
跪求字幕～急～
Phiphi8964 1 year ago
跪求字幕～急～
Phiphi8964 1 year ago
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三分鐘問左一個問題，完問題不俾時間人答，曾蔭權用了才20秒，講到“措施喺。。。“就打斷人，似發牢騷多於發問，根本沒有意思想听人講話的。他不想听我想，唉。
另外長毛應該興幸香港立法會有耐性讓他瘋，想想如果奧巴馬在台上講話，台下有人拿著東西沖上去後果是怎麼樣？應該不用5秒就已經壓在20幾個FBI身下了吧。社民連一點做政客的風度都沒有，跟台灣國會裡的一樣不守規矩不懂禮貌，也許香港需要他們幫忙發洩情緒，但是他們除了懂大呼小叫之外毫無建樹，吵鬧過後對香港有沒有真正的貢獻呢？
Sonobody123 1 year ago
@Sonobody123 同意！
washingzoo1 1 year ago
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@NicholasMonitor人家是大學教授,你唔明香港的事 就唔好9up!
dreamerfactory 1 year ago
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好,真係講得好,六大陷家產業.d香港政府真係好無能,仲有你地d共狗就不要在這裡亂吠,說什麼大吵大闹, 捣乱者, 毫无修养的,廢話,共產黨好好修养??簡直就是一班暴徒,無賴,不知所為,香港的事你們共產黨不要過問
Adolof003 1 year ago
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好,真係講得好,六大陷家產業.d香港政府真係好無能,仲有你地d共狗就不要在這裡亂吠,說什麼大吵大闹, 捣乱者, 毫无修养的,廢話,共產黨好好修养??簡直就是一班暴徒,無賴,不知所為,香港的事你們共產黨不要過問
Adolof003 1 year ago
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好,真係講得好,六大陷家產業.d香港政府真係好無能,仲有你地d共狗就不要在這裡亂吠,說什麼大吵大闹, 捣乱者, 毫无修养的,廢話,共產黨好好修养??簡直就是一班暴徒,無賴,不知所為,香港的事你們共產黨不要過問
Adolof003 1 year ago
起碼聽下我前提
咁都比佢兜到-.-
johnmark2316 1 year ago
六大家產業！xD
KelvinChoi724 1 year ago
大吵大闹, 捣乱者, 毫无修养的人??關语文水平太差何干?
语文水平差的人就等於否定/不會做以上的事??
你舉的例也未免真的语文水平和太邏輯差了...
NicholasMonitor 2 years ago
@NicholasMonitor 你唔明香港的事 就唔好9up
brucelee9014 2 years ago
香港的民主議制關你這些幫共產黨生產富貴維持特權的賤民屁事！
Chimantin 1 year ago
@NicholasMonitor
全世界的民主議會都是這樣吵吵鬧鬧
我們香港的立法會議員能夠這樣克制
已經是非常有耐性
Ray199149 1 year ago
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一群香港的捣乱者,一群sb,毫无修养的人,英国议员没有在议会厅里大吵大闹,香港悲哀啊
owenqz 2 years ago
@owenqz 你是說這班香港的高官和特首嗎??
NicholasMonitor 2 years ago
你的语文水平太差了
特首真可怜啊,
owenqz 2 years ago
@owenqz 你地都唔知香港d野 你唔好9up
brucelee9014 2 years ago
@owenqz 不清楚香港發生什麼事,就滾回你他媽的英國當中國走狗吧, 目前香港的政治環境比英國惡劣多了
kyc001323 8 months ago
前不見古人， 後不見來者 ....
Hahhh... I asked, Where are those great statesman !? Now that the people needed them the most.
Sad to say, but this seem to be the cases for China, Hongkong and Taiwan.
lostpebble 2 years ago
好1句陷家產業.
laichingleung1963 2 years ago
The lack of mutual trust (互信) between Beijing and the Pan democracy camp is one of the reason why the development of democracy in Hongkong is slow.
Until such a time that this lack of trust is removed or minimize, i can see a rocky road ahead. Of course, there are groups with vested interest who want to maintain or even make worst this situation for political gains. Have a guess who they are.
cont ..
lostpebble 2 years ago
As for Beijing, there is always these perceived thread on China's stability, or you may say the Communist party fears to lose its grip on power, this of course depend on which side of politic you are from. Indications are these concerns/fear are real and should not be ignored.
cont ..
lostpebble 2 years ago
Because of this concerns/fear, Beijing tends to sided with the government or the "pro-China" camps even if their performance were not up to par, "Better stick with the devil you know". Of course, they have a choice to engage/work with the pan democracy camp, i.e Black, white cats and the mouse theory, But this require courage, vision, and political wisdom on Beijing's side.
cont ..
lostpebble 2 years ago
Improve communications between the two is the key to develop mutual trust, attempts to internationalize Kongkong's issues most certainly will not.
Great effort are required from both sides, it is more so from Beijing, they should make the first move, because they are from a position of power. It's a bit more tricky for the pan-democracy side, because they don't want to be seen as appeasement or Kowtow to Beijing.
End.
lostpebble 2 years ago
lostpebble 2 years ago
佢任期內攪得好,,我切..哈^^
SUPERTIGER12345678 2 years ago
曾狗嗡無能用
heartdisk 2 years ago
Some have asked me about the film "A fistful of Dynamite" , you can see a good trailer on my chanel. It's not my upload, i just favorites it from other.
lostpebble 2 years ago
Ahhh.... Politicians, they are a necessary evil.
I am not referring to Mr Wong here, but i am not necessarily excluding him either.
Do you know in the West, on trustworthiness (誠信), they are rated as low as second hand car salesman !?
We, the people, need to watch them like a Hawk (鷹), Don't let them get away with anything.
Most have taken politics for their own personal gain.
Mr. Wong is doing an excellent job watching others, but we need to watch him closely also.
lostpebble 2 years ago
陷家產啦曾不該
vivian01080108 2 years ago
香港人有否想過,香港班狗官同一大部份尊貴的議員,可以厚顏無恥到這個情況,香港人是否自己要想一想,多謝社民連,
may1221aa 2 years ago
o個兩條香蕉 海棉(體) 做o既.. 未硬o既
勁正!
kin880806 2 years ago
曾狗陷家產
kin880806 2 years ago
Just following on my previous thread, there is a quote in the movie ...
"Let me tell you about a revolution. The people who read the books go to the poor people who don't read the books and say we have to make a change. So the poor people make the change. After the revolution, the people who read the books sit at their big polished tables and eat and eat and eat, but what has happened to the poor people? They're dead! "
lostpebble 2 years ago
The romantic notion of a revolution, the politicians and the people ..... Have a guess, who have the most to lose at the end !?
You really don't want to know what I think about politicians.
There is a film in the early 70's about revolution, it's calls "A Fistful of Dynamite", Interesting watch.
lostpebble 2 years ago
Ahhhhhh ...... I don't know if I should laugh or cry .
lostpebble 2 years ago
The guardian of Democracy is the RULE OF LAW.
Just as the Rule of law must be observed in the street, so it does in the parliament.
The law is above everyone and it applies to everyone.
The issue here is the respect of the parliamentary system which symbolizes the Rule of law. There is nothing to fall back on if you don't.
One particular female counselor in the Pan democratic camp exercised this very diligently, my respect to her.
lostpebble 2 years ago
I don't think George Washington followed the rule of law when he revolted against the British during the Revolution.
I don't know what is there to respect about HK's parliamentary system, when half of the seats are elected through 'small circle' elections.
The Government doesn't respect the law either. When the courts passed a decision it doesn't like, they go ask Beijing to interpret the Basic Law.
tsang6482 2 years ago
孫悟空大鬧天宮。
民意就係緊箍咒。
lostpebble 2 years ago
Hello tsang6482,
I am not against the LSD.
In fact, i am 100% with them on many issues. I even quite like Mr. Wong as a presenter.
But there are certain thing one just have to know there is a limit.
I want to see them to be a political party that can really make a difference. I just don't agree with the tactics being employed. It could backfire on the LSD, It's just really not the way forward.
Sometime, checking the checks, balancing the balance is good for them.
lostpebble 2 years ago
I disagree with you. I rather like their 'fight fire with fire' approach. You don't need to reason with people who aren't going to reason with you.
tsang6482 2 years ago
Remember, the increase in 'fruit money' came from him throwing bananas at Tsang.
tsang6482 2 years ago
Just a bit of checks and balance !!!
That's all.
I am grad no one have offered me a "Red Cap" yet.
lostpebble 2 years ago
Only you talk, other people no talk !!
Only you right, other people wrong !!
This, this ... you call do democracy.
Seriously, even if we discounted the 30 seats, this leave the LSD with 10% of questioning time (3/30), NOT BLOODY 100% !!!!
When people taken up just courses with much convictions, they can become radicalized, they can carried away.
Disrespect others, refuse others to express their onions by over talking , Is this democracy !?
lostpebble 2 years ago
What the current system we have in Hong Kong is definitely not democracy.
He's just challenging a system that is unjust. He's just only disrespecting an incompetent leader. I wish the pan-democrats would do more of that, instead of trying to get the Government on the negotiating table.
tsang6482 2 years ago
"the brit's political tactics are still in place."
I don't quite understood what you said here, beikehanmu.
May be you can help me out a bit about the Westminster system, wont you !?
lostpebble 2 years ago
"lostpebble, you are so clueless."
Hahaha... if you say so, beikehanmu.
"the reason it still hasnt collapsed is because they inherited vast amount of wealth from the brit's colonial hong kong"
That will be right !!! beikehanmu. Yeah ...people have been sitting on their bums since their master left them in 97, that's my interpretation of you said, correct me if i mis-understood what you said in anyway, please, beikehanmu.
lostpebble 2 years ago
desperate for the shot from Mr.Big's private camera. i heard there is a camera that caps both brother Mao and Yukman in front of Mr.Big. please show link. thanks thanks.
angusthegreat 2 years ago
True, LSD will never be a party of majority. But at least they have 10% of public support according to the election of 2008.
beikehanmu 2 years ago
lostpebble, you are so clueless.
go read something about how the hk legco is constituted, what is the legco is capable of.
learn something about how the government of hong kong is run.
the system in Hong Kong is so fucked up. the reason it still hasnt collapsed is because they inherited vast amount of wealth from the brit's colonial hong kong and some of the brit's political tactics are still in place.
beikehanmu 2 years ago
好q樣衰，曾任權幾時先肯去吃屎
andymovieonline 2 years ago
曾任權真係好樣衰。
andymovieonline 2 years ago
sara11120513,
I think it's unfair and arrogant to assume that only the LSD care !!!
I am suggesting that the way he is carrying on does not help himself or his coalition to be a credible party in the long run.
It does not help him to win the heart and mind of the people in the "centre" where the majority are come the next election. The real battle is to capture the centre or centre/left supports.
He might lose some of his core supporters if he is not careful although it is unlikely.
Get it ?
lostpebble 2 years ago
lostpeppble....sure...just like the others and treat this job as a career and wait for summer vacation.
do you know how injustice LegCo is? Majority is controlled by "special interest" group elected reps. And the game rules are not fair at all. We have been treated like fools the last past 10 years and we tried to be civilized with the gov. It is time to make a stand and let people know how unfair the system is.
sara11120513 2 years ago
The last thing Mr Wong wanted, is to be perceived as a unstable person. Unfortunately, perception is what count most of the time. People just don't have the damn time to do research !!!
He's running the risk of being marginalized and being unable to achieve what he set out to achieve at the first place.
Well, if his goal is merely being a dissenting voice, perhaps what he did may be enough.
But would that really be enough to help the unprivileged !?
Only because i care.
lostpebble 2 years ago
LSD will always be existed if they really care about unprivileged and the community as a whole.
I stressed "community as a whole", the deliberate attempt to appeal to the lower echelon of society, i.e Speak their languages etc etc would only work to a certain extent, then what !?
Entertaining !? Yes !! Like clowns in a circus..
Raise awareness, perhaps.
The path forward, i think NOT.
The centre is where the battle ground really is, where social norms are generally observed.
lostpebble 2 years ago
To fight for the justice of marginalized groups are definitely the right thing to do. They are very serious agenda as they will be impacting on the welfare of many people, it's more so that people taken up these task should act responsibly.
I don't doubt their sincerity, but good intention is just simply not good enough ...... It's not just about doing the right thing, but also to do the thing right !! if you know what i mean.
lostpebble 2 years ago
If the other pro-democrats are actually effective in holding the government in check, and the government actually listens to the community, then I agree with you. But that's clearly not the case.
I've said it before, if HK society is just, and the government isn't so incompetent, I think there's no room for the LSD to exist.
Would you say George Washington is bad for rebelling against Britain, and is Martin Luther King bad for standing up against racism?
tsang6482 2 years ago
It's not just this incidence, these mobs have been carried on like they owned the damn place, like they are representing the majority of the Hongkong people...
I supporting the rights for dissenting voices, but not like this.
lostpebble 2 years ago
If indeed their intention is fighting for interest of the grass root people, then these kind of uncivilized, unruly behavior would weaken their argument and actually did them a disservice. Needless to say that they did not set a good example for the kids.
Some suggested that different approach would not work. Well, are you seriously suggesting this kind of behavior would bring about changes !?
lostpebble 2 years ago
Why should I respect DT when he is not elected by the majority of the people?
joekkl 2 years ago
Because he's human being. Any human being needs to be respected. Is it simple? You can disagree him but not disrespect him, right?
elleskim 2 years ago
The speaker of the house should have more control over some of the thuggish behavior (Especially the bold head guy)
This is a joke !!! It's pathetic !!! I dare say that Hong kong parliament is laughing stock for the world to see.
A complete misrepresentation of what democracy is, just as one should respect the rule of law on the street, so one should in the parliament. I don't think some of these guys ever seen how a parliament work in the West.
Hahaha... "Chinese in a western parliament".
lostpebble 2 years ago
Of course they have.
HK LegCo is the laughing stock of the world, because it's one of the few legislative bodies in the world without any legislative power.
tsang6482 2 years ago
Yeah ... really don't want to let people think HK is like Taiwan.
elleskim 2 years ago
曾先生自己都知答案啦,仲答出黎比我地丙咩?
silly2357 2 years ago 5
社民連 good Job!!!!!
dennylai2009 2 years ago
黃毓民出發點係岩
不過處理方式出錯
可能人已經到了忍無可忍既地步
justinqoo 2 years ago
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係呀, 長毛同毓民死廢柴, 你地抗爭唔係問題, 但係唔該注意自己言行同行為. 原本好想下屆投你地, 但自從今次事件之後, 我諗都唔會再考慮佢地
henrytam1001 2 years ago
那就證明到閣下並非社民連的真正支持者。
他們另類的手法就是因為要為香港的基層人士發聲。其他「民主派」人士的溫柔手法爭取到什麼呢?
tsang6482 2 years ago 2
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黃毓民非常應該返大陸. 因為他完完全全係共產主義. 時常要政府派這樣派那樣. 我諗他一定係間諜.
afplanet 2 years ago
好失望如果肯每人派六千本地消費卷 窮致露宿者富致李家皇朝都有 咁就即係香港開阜以來最好施政報告 錢多了消費一樣提高商家咪一樣更受惠 喜歡留來開飯又得 各取所需又簡單 就係因為澳門同台灣 都係咁做 人民都好小罵政府不知民間苦況既問題 反而香港 能過97金融風暴 03沙士 金融海嘯 豬流感 就不能過一次每人分一次錢 帶來的無限商機 繼續出暴政益多d自己人啦
him226 2 years ago 3
毓民做特首啦
icerushhk09 2 years ago 4
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黃毓民真係好煩..聽到佢把聲已經覺得煩= =
loudsep 2 years ago
你咪唔好聽囉..
arsonlo 2 years ago 3
我諗香港實在太多噪音吧.
毓民咁叻經濟民生的話, 就攞諾貝爾獎啦. 唉! 另外, 大時間, 就教下屋企個仔. 自己都唔能夠修身,齊家 重講乜經濟民生呀?!
afplanet 2 years ago
修身,齊家出處係咩社會主義既大前下提出?
silly2357 2 years ago
我無野補充 =.=
dannyauyeung2 2 years ago
冇双普選......香港人有排受苦.....
jacky003142008 2 years ago 4
支持社民連三子
jacky003142008 2 years ago 6
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毓民問問題講前文後理, 個件主席就stop人, 特首帶人遊花園又唔見佢叫特首快d答~~正PK
tck1012 2 years ago 4
毓民問問題講前文後理, 個件主席就stop人, 特首帶人遊花園又唔見佢叫特首快d答~~正PK
tck1012 2 years ago 20
特首比較天真,樓市天價和一般民眾無關.像mr.bean
he8765 2 years ago 7
毓民講得 ''好''...長毛答得 ''正''
hkcyt1 2 years ago 6
一日冇民選特首, 一日都唔會有好日子過!
kendrickho 2 years ago 6
點解曾蔭權回答黃毓民要戴上耳筒 ?
Shuisee 2 years ago 4
仲要加稅比你班冚家剷曾特首連狗都不如
ben347256 2 years ago 9
仆街曾蔭權六大冚家剷業, 窮人不應墮深淵, 墮深淵應該是曾蔭狗權!!!
alicesatou 2 years ago 6
羣賊創新天 !!!!!!
lamchunhau 2 years ago 7
好鬼好睇^_^
MrSfg532a 2 years ago 5
董伯伯起碼似番嗰人 , 呢條狗西曾特首連狗都不如
rayplace 2 years ago 24
bravo.. Yukman the best!
ultramanjoe 2 years ago 7
冚家剷!
highlei 2 years ago 6
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060490370 2 years ago
果50萬綜援戶有幾多係新移民呢?
ayuroom 2 years ago
咁右係新移民最多窮人
keisre889 2 years ago
新移民好多窮人
keisre889 2 years ago
哈哈！！陷家產業`~講得好！
hkcyt1 2 years ago 9
官腔即係官腔..永遠答非所問
ivankc0926 2 years ago 8
數據就是事實 !!
hongkognpeople 2 years ago 11
唔知醜的真特狗!!!
dicallanwong 2 years ago 15
毓民好野
alancwwong 2 years ago 7
Support !! gogogo
Parcohk 2 years ago 2
我無野補充喇～～～
:o)
rocky31000 2 years ago 3
六大陷家產業
keisre889 2 years ago 6