Conspiracy Files: 9/11 - The Third Tower (complete)

[CxBalla1212]

The fire fighters interveiwed are so fucking dumb. a "slapn the face" he's letting the fact he was there blind him from whate evryone else saw from an outside perspective, They have a bias. of course if you knew people who died you wouldnt want to or even be able to beleive that the government or a higher power killed them. you want to beleive the classic american, lets go get the bad coloured person who did this

[wookeye]

a building do "not" fall into his own footprint in free fall - thats a fact

[jhodgski]

This documentary does address the main questions, but it provides very inadequate answers.

E.g., if the joints did fail as suggested in their conclusion, then how could they all fail at the same time, and how did the vertical columns not remain standing to some extent? The real answer is because it was a controlled demolition in which the vertical columns wereremoved at the same time!

The official WTC7 story is so weak. At least they have succeeded in that so few people know about it.

[halation777]

So if it was a conspiracy...what are we supposed to do about it?

[shamkuzi]

@halation777 riot, usa needs a revolution :p

[TODB0AMER]

44:54 "...the BBC lost key tapes of its 911 coverage, but we found them, in the September 2002 archive ..." YEAH RIGHT! how do the BBC run their archives FFS? people take things and return them willy-nilly? again no names or reason why tapes of this epoch world changing event were borrowed.

[icemachine79]

@TODB0AMER The BBC isn't known for their great archiving skills. They lost most of their pre-1974 programs because of a mix-up in delegating responsibility for maintaining a tape library. Their footage of the Apollo moon landing is long gone and Doctor Who, one of their most popular and longest-running shows, is still missing 106 episodes despite an exhaustive worldwide search over the last 35 years. So yeah, I believe it.

[TODB0AMER]

@icemachine79 maybe they should get those scrupulously honest conspiracy files people to LOOK for the lost doctor who tapes? lost their entire NINE ELEVEN ARCHIVE? do me a favour! bollocks they did! and why did they move heaven and earth to try( but fail) to remove the clairvoyant/evidence of forewarning building 7 collapse report from youtube?

[FacelesswithEyesOpen]

@integer22 He is a rational credible professional who has NOTHING TO GAIN by doing what he does. I know it just shatters your entire reality but get used to it, 9-11 was an inside job. Truth will prevail.

[icemachine79]

@FacelesswithEyesOpen Of course he has something to gain; lots of unwarranted attention and a feeling of superiority for being "smarter" than the rest of his peers. You should know since you almost certainly do it for the same reasons.

[integer22]

lol richard gage is so desperate to believe...the mental hoops he's having to jump through to justify his beliefs to himself are frankly hilarious. "Negative pressure"? Give me a break...

[schmidtkid]

I love how they keep using the "people don't know what an explosion sounds like" line.

[RepublicIcon]

@schmidtkid Have you ever heard an explosion?

[TODB0AMER]

0:19:25 Why did these BBC "journalists" not 'inform and educate' us with the name and calculations of the FDNY engineer who somehow predicted the collapse time of WTC7? The prediction that the FDNY totally went with and planned their entire day's operations on! This, of course, begs the question...did NIST fleece the US taxpayer with what must have been a duplication of this un-named FDNY engineer's calculations with their 2008 WTC7 collapse report?

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[Tanblondalex]

Very nice make up,....providing half the truth and attacking what you believe is not strong evidence is not a honest search for truth.Did you invistigate the role of the 60 Israeli agents deported, and earlier the lorry carrying explosives also by israeli agents heading to that place before the attack.,...the empty un rented floors in the buildings,and on and on and on

[TODB0AMER]

The (hawkphttt) BBC are just digging themselves a bigger and bigger hole over 9/11! This new low in trash telly(before they broadcast 'conspiracy road trip') would be an insult to the average viewer of CBBC FFS!

[pookster78]

With such a complex structure and lack of any real footage both the truthers and NIST/FEMA are going on very limited information.Therefore,when NIST/FEMA state there are things which are difficult to explain in detail,unlike truthers,i find that to be a very honest statement.Certainly more honest than some of the fraudulent "evidence" given by the likes of Gage and Jones,who quote mine,use pics which have been doctored and claimed WTC1&2 were at free fall(CLEARLY not true).

[nyyght7]

tabloid reporting.

i thought this was developed, but obviously not!

[jammingeo1]

and not 2 mention siverstine,,the owner took out a new insurance policy,,,and made 100 of billions just a few months prior,,,,,,,,,hummmmm really looks fishy 2 me

[jammingeo1]

ok lets say fire did do it,,,,,,i just want to know this???????? how come all the wittnesses have came up dead,and the billions of dollars made on put options from stock,,prior 911 the largest in history,,,and all the buildings collapsed in the same way.which in fact no damage was done to the south and north on the lower floors??????

[4465Vman]

..know this. They learned it in high school. but they completely ignore this!!! Crazy! Dishonest, a complete disrespect to the victims who died that day.

[4465Vman]

...building collapsed at "acceleration due to gravity" for the first two seconds of its descent. The only way it can do this is to have zero structural components below it, meaning the tons of steel had to be removed fby some force. Fires do not cause the steel to not be there, but it cant be there because the building had no resitance from below for two seconds. So the next OBVIOUS thing to test for is the presence of explosives. This is high school science. All these professional enginneers...

[4465Vman]

I have just watched this video . Here are my thoughts. 1) Gene corley, the govt engineer , states there was no evidence of a controlled demolition. In reality the building had about seven classic trademark signs of a CD, so in a valid scientific study ALL evidence is looked at, and so with these classic signs of a CD, this would be tested for. This man is an engineer, he knows the building has trademark features of a CD, he just ignores this. 2) The government's own study admits that the...

[Vlum88]

Didnt Barry Jennings die after this interview under mysterious circumstances?

[dodgeraider08]

@Vlum88 ya that kinda doesnt help the it wasnt a conspiracy it was fire theory

[FamousNoName]

@Vlum88 Yeh, his son said leukaemia & colleagues said heart attack. Before this though he gave an interview to Loose Change for their film stating explosions, dead people & more inside WTC7 before either tower fell. /watch?v=9LLHTh_UjBc

After threats against his job, pension & others he wouldnt say, they didn't put it in the film. /watch?v=BxE8xPn32f4

He's not the only one to die, /watch?v=bvay28lZiHU

[hafabee]

Sure looked like a controlled demolition to me. When buildings like that collapse they veer in the direction of least resistance according to where the damage is...those suckers came straight down, all 3 of them. It's ultimately up to the American people to decide whether their government lied to them or not and what the response should be. If the US government did lie they did they did a hell of a good job, it'd be tough to cover up a conspiracy that big.

[IndividualParties]

'the government wanted to destroy key files held there (WTC 7) about corporate fraud"

So they demolish the entire fucking building? WOW, the 9/11 "truth" cult really is just......bahahahahahahahahaha

[soulinite]

The government couldn't cover up a blow job.

[jsystevo007]

@soulinite exactly...great comment!

[leftysergeant]

Seems that the only people who think that there was nothing wrong with the official narrative are a pack of useless drongos like Dylan who never dragged a hose on a fire, never examined steel that had been cut by a thermite charge and never watched and heard demolition charges being placed and detonated and were not on the scene that day.

I have done all of those with the exception of the last. I was last in NYC 41 years ago. Twoofers like Dylan talk out of their asses a lot.

[rubberritchie]

@leftysergeant No, the majority of the worlds experts back the 'official story'. All the conspiracy theories have been debunked. There is no evidence of an 'inside job'. None.

[leftysergeant]

@rubberritchie Typo on my part. I meant that those twoofers were the only ones who thought there was ANYTHING wrong.I can't proof read too well when I am tired.

[jsystevo007]

@rubberritchie no they dont...you give america a bad name, believing your government didnt deceive you! just look at the building!!!! go back pledge your allegiance to the flag and stick your head back into the sand...the bbc made this film another mainstream media owned by corrupt govts like yours

[rubberritchie]

@jsystevo007 I'm not American. I'm British. I've looked at the building as have experts in all relative fields; architects, engineers, etc. The majority don't believe in such bizarre theories. 911 was an outside job. No proof otherwise. 

[jsystevo007]

@rubberritchie thats simply not true actually the majority think otherwise....sorry but you are an idiot!

[rubberritchie]

@jsystevo007 Resorting to insults shows how lame your argument is. PS Your mum is a great lover.

[FamousNoName]

@rubberritchie Is there really no evidence? And have you ever thought how this world works & why experts wouldn't challenge the 'official' story?

They & their companies survive through consumerism (money), both public & private. If they are seen with something not 'mainstream', they won't get that money & will fail.

As for evidence, look at the links & topics I gave leftysergeant, and then re-evaluate your ideas

(Please just read, don't be abusive,)

[rubberritchie]

@FamousNoName Abusive? I was in the Truth movement briefly. I have seen more than 20 conspiracy videos, attended talks by Richard Gage and others. But scientists I met ripped apart the theories I was parroting. The Truth movement use clever editig, pseudo science, speculation and lies to persuade. There is no huge conspiracy of 'experts'. 911 was an inside job. There were no magic bombs, missiles, faked phone calls or any other such whacky goings on.

[FamousNoName]

@rubberritchie Who are the scientists which refute Richard Gage's & other's theories? Jim Miegs, Gunnar Ries, or Mark Roberts by any chance?

I have dozens of video saved on a word document. They are not people who hate Bush, edit cleverly or lie. They are the ones which focus completely on science & physics facts & who have extensive knowledge in relevant fields

Could I interest you in them? =)

[leftysergeant]

@FamousNoName I've seen all those videos you linked to. 100% crap. As for little Dickie Gage and his box-dropping schtick, he has proven nothing by that except that verinage should not work. But WOW! Verinage does work. So, either we are being fed a load of crap about verinage, or little Dickie is feeding you crap about demolitions and thermite and all that hoo-haw. As a trained arson investigator and a former hose-dragger, I tend to go with the theory that little Dickie is full of crap.

[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant If you have seen the links, which ones? What are your views on them & why you think they are wrong?

Gage's cardboard box sim' isn't a representation of WTC, its a demo of Newton's Conservation of Momentum. For every action there is an equal & opposite reaction. But for some reason this was absent on 9/11

Verinage demo is where gravity is used to crush both sections of the structure because if Newton's law

911debunkers.blogspot.com/2011­/07/another-balzac-vitry-verin­age.html

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[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant The roof line of the building slows as it hits and crushes the structure below in, but amazingly WTC1's roof line keeps accelerating as if nothing is below it

/watch?v=ZjSd9wB55zk

And its not just Gage who is saying this, if you would listen, there is 1600+ other experts, including demo

So if you are a trained arson investgator, you can tell me how many steel buildings have collapsed due to fire, not including WTC. (i reckon you will dodge this)

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[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant So which theories do you believe then? The one where 19 hijackers (6 of whom are alive) managed to take 4 planes & crash 3 without being intercepted? 61 time between Sept 00 & June 01 fighters were scrambled cuz the pilot/plane didnt respond to ATC

What your theory on how the towers collapsed?

What about the fact the FBI hide 84 CCTV tapes showing Flight 77's impact?

But you don't care about that, a man in a suit told you that a man in a cave did it (but no one it wanted for 9/11)

[leftysergeant]

@FamousNoName Do you realize how few Arabic names there are? Or how many people get their dientity stolen? And have you considered that there was no protocol for shooting down an airliner. Learn some history. The tpwers collapsed because the floors failed in the heat. The floors held the thing together. Nothing odd here. And the 84 tapes were not all from the Pentagon. Security is by boots on the ground, DERRRP.

[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant So you're ok with your Govt not knowing who killed 3000 people? Power to shoot down aircraft was with NORAD Generals but in June 01, Cheney changed it so they had to get permission from himself, Bush or Rumsfield

How did the floors fail? What caused total failure? The core took the most of the weight of the structure, the perimeter did the rest. You think removing these would keep the floors up?

Don't you think we should see those tapes?

Look at my other posts, try & answer them

[leftysergeant]

@FamousNoName 19 pised-off Arabs did it. The protocol was never to shoot down civilian aircraft during hijackings. Until they started slamming into buildings, there was no reason to do so. You still have to find an aircraft to shoot it down. That takes time. The floors fell because they warped in the heat. Normal. The perimeter clolumns also clearly warped and lost strength. You are not paying attention to detail and you lack fire science education. I have had that education. You FAIL.

[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant Where's your proof, they don't appear on any flight manifest. ROE say that if hijackers don't comply with fighter demands & the nothing else works, the plane will be disabled by means of force

So if the transponder has been switched off or lost, it takes time for both the military & FAA to locate any aircraft? So during the Cold War, if Soviet planes came in US airspace, they wouldn't see them? Or were Soviet planes built with US aero civilian equipment?

There is PAVE PAWS & radar

[leftysergeant]

@FamousNoName Idiot. The ROE pre-9/11 was to comply. Learn your history, fool.

[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant @leftysergeant @leftysergeant

In 95-97 British Steel with European sponsors did fire tests on exposed steel with temps reaching 1213C, at BFE Fire Research Laboratory in Cardington, UK

The beams did soften & sag but not a single steel beam collapsed or melted, they entire structure held up

You're being ignorant to REAL science, you need re-educating. And you still haven't answered my previous questions in earlier posts

[leftysergeant]

@FamousNoName Only an idiot thinks that the British experiment proves anything about buildings like the WTC. The floors in their test were not trussses supporting concrete slabs anchored to flimsy little brackets on the walls. And the Kadar Toy Factory shows that their crap is not even universally applicable to conventional steel builldings. Now stop asking me to prove a negative. It makes you look like a moron. Most of your questions are based on the babbling of sociopaths and Nazis.

[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant So heating steel to 1213C isn't relevant? Fine then, but what about all of the other steel high rise structures from the past decades? For example;

One Meridian Plaza, Philadelphia - Feb 1991

First Interstate Bank, LA - May 1988

1 NY Plaza, NYC - Aug 1970

Caracas Tower, Venezuela - Oct 2004

Windsor Tower, Madrid - Feb 2005

Mandarin Hotel, Beijing - Feb 2009

All these burnt for longer & hotter than WTC, but non collapsed.

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[leftysergeant]

@FamousNoName No other building of anything like a similar design as the WTC burned that long, with that much other structural damage. Your comparisons are invalid. Steel warps when it gets hot. All the science you need to know. Note that all of the steel above the mechanical floor of the Windsor tower failed. Only the CONCRETE portion survived. DERP!

That Bush the Lesser used the attacks as an excuse to go medieval is irrelevant.

[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant Im not asking for a negative, im asking for evidence to support your arguments.

But its easier for you to only focus on stuff which backs up your fairytale, that a few Islamic Arabs far far away hate your freedoms (which the Patriot Act took away) & your way of life. And when people question it, we're Nazis & other bad things

Remind me why 70K US soldiers died in Vietnam? (hint, Gulf of Tonkin)

But after Afghan, where next? Iran, N Korea, Venezuela? Keep that in mind!

[dodgeraider08]

@FamousNoName im gonna have to side with famous no name it does look a little strange that it came straight down. Im not out to get into a arugment with anyone. i am not bias in any way because im not an american but it does look strange. Fire could have caused this im open to that but it just looks like its controled to me.

[FamousNoName]

@dodgeraider08 You don't have to be an American to see that is that didn't collapse because of at fire on floor 12

It fell at free fall acceleration for the first 100ft, meaning all support structure disappeared when it started & carried on straight down in under 7 seconds. Since the collapse was the first in history you think it would be studied, but only 200 pieces of the entire WTC steel out of 100,000 tonnes survives, the rest was destroyed.

/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

Then search Richard Humenn

[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant I find it funny that you ALWAYS ignore the hard questions & will NEVER look at my links i provide. You take the easiest route to defend your cognitive dissonance, making statements which you never back up with evidence or references

Ignorance is Bliss

[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant I think you're forgetting the thousands of first responders who are now sick & dying from illnesses due to 9/11. And cause of this, they were banned from the 10th anniversary

Also the firefighters who were inside the towers hearing explosions throughout. Auxiliary Lieutenant Firefighter Paul Issac has said many firefighters know 9/11 was an inside job, but they're afraid for their jobs to speak out. /watch?v=An5aa3k3iDE

Experts have examined the steel & WTC dust & found... (cont)

[leftysergeant]

@FamousNoName You're full of shit. The balliest mofos in the city are not going to keep their mouths shut about the possible murder of three hundred of their brothers, especially if they are themselves dying from the effects of the crime. You insult all of FDNY.

[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant So i'm full of shit? Care to explain why? I have provided videos for you to watch, i'l give you some more then, but im certain you won't watch them. Search for the channels We Are Change & Occupy Wall Street, they are full of them.

/watch?v=6MlwDZIfOBA

/watch?v=nvBIricsi7E

/watch?v=OCo_bx8s1Z4

/watch?v=Mb-I8tRdqmg

But you would rather insult me rather than actually pay attention to painful reality. Go to the website RT News, they cover the real stories

[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant ..micro iron spheres, unreacted thermitic material & high levels of sulphur & barium. Prof Steven Jones, Dr Niels Harrit, RJ Lee Co. Livermore Labs & USGS have all found these

Now AE911Truth, 1600+ architects, engineers, fire protection experts, physicists, chemists, metallurgists, demolition experts & more have put their years of experience forward & are calling for a new investigation

They are back by victim families & the Chief WTC electrical engineer, Richard Humenn.

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[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant Here's his interview /watch?v=gJy7lhVK2xE

Jonathan Cole, an engineer, did experiments with thermite after the media said it couldn't harm steel. He proved that when applied correctly it cuts right through it. /watch?v=Qamecech9m4

He has also pointed out that there is no official explanation for how WTC collapsed. NIST says it doesn't know why total collapse happened, only saying it was inevitable, but it isn't. /watch?v=7ySUrEiVFIM

Experts can't even agree on how it started

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[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant Then there is the molten iron which poured out of WTC2 7min before collapse, the pools of it found months later in the rubble & the fused lumps of metal & concrete. NIST tries to say this was molten AL mixed with office furnishings

But Prof Jones did experiments to show molten AL is silver in the air (which NIST admitted) & that organic materials won't mix with it due to its density. He also proved by using Plancks Law that the metal was molten iron. /watch?v=3PawC4u1U7k

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[FamousNoName]

@leftysergeant And then there is Barry Jennings & WTC7. Before he gave this interview, he gave 1 to Loose Change & Alex Jones. Here he says there WERE explosions INSIDE WTC7 prior to WTC1 or 2 fell & that he was stepping on dead people. But after receiving threats against his job, pension & other he wouldnt say, they chose not to put it in. /watch?v=ris8OGSskCk /watch?v=9LLHTh_UjBc

AE911Truth summary vid bout WTC7 with their experts /watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

Its part of their film Experts Speak Out