I'd say it's pretty certain that planes hit the tower from watching actual footage from that day. I don't think one can honestly dispute that. What should be disputed is A.) Black box cover up, possibly indicating that the planes were flown by remote control (See The Lone Gunmen Pilot episode, shot in march 4 2001 that talks about almost exactly what happened 911) B. Those towers were brought down by demolition.
Unfortunately lives were lost that day. No Matter What Conspiracy Theories people come up with.!! R.I.P. to all the people who died on that tragic day.
LOL. It's amazing that this computer thing also made it appear in real life, so all those people who saw it on the streets were also fooled. It must have been a Mac. My shitty Windows OS can't even create matter out of nothing and fool a city of 8 million people. It's like I'm living in the middle ages!
If you know a pilot ask him or her how fast planes can fly at 700 feet altitude. They take off and land at under 200 MPH. These planes are going over 500 MPH - official report. The video backs up the speed of 500 +. Calculate how many frames it takes for the plane to travel its own length with the frame rate and you get 500 + MPH. Impossible. Ask a pilot.
@ThoughtCrime7 so your telling me that a plane can only go a maximum speed of 200 mph at 700 feet because they land at 200mph, did you ever think that when planes land they don't have their engines at full throttle, that they are SLOWING DOWN to land, nice try, you sir are retarded, a plane could easily fly 500 mph at any altitude by being a full throttle
A 767 is NOT a military aircraft and is NOT designed for fast, low level flight. A 767 cannot travel 500mph at 800ft in a controlled flight situation because of air density and structural integrity. Trying to go full throttle at lower altitudes would alter the proper fuel/air mixture in the combustion cans and essentially flood and stall the powerplants. You've never turned a wrench on a bird, have you Skippy?
this video is nothing but cheap rotoscoping that a trained monkey can do. All you did was copy existing footage you fool, while you are alleging that the perps created brand new footage - that's a whole different ball game so you have proved NOTHING. I am a professional animator and have NEVER seen any evidence that ANY of the planes were "cartoons" or whatever you claim.
I'm just wondering, to all you conspiracy theorists, if you think the gov't is okay with killing 3000 of its own citizens without objection to justify war, don't you think you're all being somewhat passive about it? I mean, your posting your ideas about it online, but if you really felt the government is as evil as you say, shouldn't you be doing something more drastic/proactive? According to you, shouldn't the gov't have "silenced" you all long ago?
@CollinAlexander "Most of the leaders of the "truth movement" are actually controlled opposition" hahaha it's the first time one of you fuckers actually made me laugh, you are actually insane, did you know? lol Now you're even turning on your own
btw, I don't buy into any of this "no planes" crap. You can see in the third video that a citizen is concerned about this, and I feel it discredits the real and convincing evidence of explosive demolition, such as extremely high temperatures, tiny explosive fragments found in the dust, the freefall of WTC7, abnormal toxic emissions from the debris, the lack of fire-collapse precedent
@zeppelinfan444 ...in my opinion the gov't has not silenced all of the conspiracy theorists because there's many people (probably as you) that still believe in the official version even though the proofs of conspiracy are clear and evident...youtube has not the same power as television has that reaches people much easier and in a more effective way. Infact the official version is still in many peoples mind...the conspiracy theorists are a really small part of the mass unfortunately
eyewitnesses are actually not credible at all. google "eyewitness credibility" and read the report from Stanford. the fallibility of the human memory is astounding.
have you seen the video with the two teams passing a ball and you don't even notice the gorilla running around?
how the hell can u guys say there were no planes? it was obvious from people standing right there when it happend, u cant say there were no planes!!!! it was captured on camera with about half of new york looking with thier own eyes. but yes there were bombs in the building. the witnesses say that there were several more explosions after the plane crashes.
@bboygreen123 yes it is completely rediculous isnt it? Boggles the mind....My guess is that it started as a disinformation campaign to make the whole 'truth' movement seem silly....It started that way then others with well intentions, but poor reasoning skills took the bait. Now it is self perpetuating. When there is so much good evidence such as the rate at which the buildings fell, its a shame idiots like this are around causing damage to any credibility the movement has.
@bboygreen123 im still not sure about an inside job, the bombs in the building can possibly be explained as stress fractures, when you put enough pressure on steel and concrete, it will snap and crack making very loud explosive noises, Not to mention any fire extinguisher or pressurized fire-suppression tanks would easily explode when exposed to such heat. Again, I'm not saying it wasn't an inside job, Im just thinkin out loud, because unlike alot of people, I DONT want it to be an inside job.
@poonkinator the reports from maintenance of the basement exploding, before the second plane hit? evidence of nanothermite? the immense heat for days after efen when doused? the "magic" passports? lack of airport images of the terrorists? the fact they were ALL SAUDIS? some of who are alive. the "coincidence of the exact drill being done at the exact time? same with 7/7/7!!! it goes on and on.
and the undeniable fact that the core would not have collapsed as it did without help.
@NOmeansnoFAN i never said it wasn't an inside job, in fact neither side has really convinced me yet...Im just saying that just because somebody says its an inside job or theres evidence pointing to that doesn't mean it necessarily was one. Every one might think a person is gay and everything points to it...doesn't mean that person is gay. I know thats a weird analogy but its the same basic thing lol...and the idea that the planes were holographs is absolutely absurd.
@NOmeansnoFAN plus they weren't ALL saudi, Atta was an Egyptian, one was Lebanese, and one was from the united arab emirates. I'm not sure why everyone WANTS this to be a conspiracy, so much that people will make shit up and make the conspiracy theorists look bad and make them loose credibility
@poonkinator true 15 of them were. none were Iraqi. Yet....
and of course it was a conspiracy. You have let the media and govt alter your dictionary. No matter who did this it was a conspiracy. Like communism and anarchy, the powers that be have altered our language.
A democratic communist state is 100% plausible, matter of fact it would be the only way to have a true communist state. But you probably think china is communist.
@NOmeansnoFAN fair point about the conspiracy...but i said inside job, not conspiracy...and maybe Marx wouldn't believe China to be a TRUE communist state, but they still have many characteristics of communism in their government.
@poonkinator "I'm not sure why everyone WANTS this to be a conspiracy," is what you wrote.
To China communism means keep the populous poor, while the upper echelon lives like kings...not what ol' karl had in mind. Actually they are setting the stage for what will be the largest revolution this world has ever seen.
@NOmeansnoFAN ok besides that part i said it was an inside job...not sure why you're out to get me just because I'm thinking things through before jumping to conclusions like many people do in this situation lol
@poonkinator " you're out to get me" uhmm don't flatter yourself. Just pointing out your ignorance. Other's ignorance is another comment, directed at another idiot.
@NOmeansnoFAN Ignorance? Idiot? I never disagreed with you, I've said that many times. I'm asking questions, doing research, thinking things over before I jump on the Bandwagon and believe it was an inside job just because everyone says it is and you call THAT ignorant? Its the complete opposite of Ignorant. If anyones being ignorant its YOU, attacking me personally simply because I don't believe EVERYTHING that you do. True example of close-mindedness and arrogance.
@poonkinator the ignorance and idiot comment originates from what you actually wrote, not its alignment with my views. There is a difference between being open minded and just not being able to make up one's mind.
@NOmeansnoFAN well if I weren't open minded I wouldve made up my mind already...being open minded is the main reason I haven't made up my mind, but you're wasting both of our time by trying to find things to criticize me for just because I don't fully agree with you...have fun trolling, I'll worry about more important things while I let you "prove" the government to be corrupt and greedy. Have fun with that I'm sure You'll really make a difference lol XD
@poonkinator trouble reading much? I wrote, and I quote: " There is a difference between being open minded and just not being able to make up one's mind" A troll, by definition, intentionally tries to get a rise out of people. If you can't take the criticism of your inane comments then tough titties, I do not care about your fragile emotional state. The inaccuracies and inconsistencies, and down right omissions in the 911 commish IS proof of the corrupt government running the US
@NOmeansnoFAN inane comments lol...all I said was I haven't made up my mind yet...and yes I said conspiracy because, like you said, the way we use that word has changed since 9/11 and when 9/11 and conspiracy are used in the same sentence, its really common knowledge that Im talking about an inside job...ITS YOUTUBE, not harvard...I really don't understand why that would piss you off so much hahaha...
well without proper use of words we are ushering in the Orwellian language, newspeak, where we will not be able to converse adequately. You have not pissed me off, but just irritated me slightly. There are many "conspiracy theories" around 911 and one of them is that 19 hijackers were responsible, mind you there is not a whole lot of evidence. But to think those buildings fell as they did by planes alone is laughable. To think a 767 can pass through 6 walls of reinforced concrete is ludicrous.
@NOmeansnoFAN AND I agree 110% that our government is corrupt, that doesn't necessarily mean that they were behind 9/11 (not saying they werent behind it so don't freak out AGAIN) plus you're from Canada so not sure why you have this sense of superiority over americans. EVERY government is corrupt in some way, America is just the easiest to point out because everyone hates us already. Hell you're prolly just gonna find some grammatical flaw in this and call me an ignorant idiot aren't you lol
I only point out blatant spelling errors when people are correcting other and make them, as you can see i am not grammatically correct on here either. It is the "shut up moran" comments that get my ire
The 110% bit, like spinal tap's "it goes to 11" is also a error.
It has been almost 50 years since your govt assassinated its leader and with no truth yet, so I would not be surprised if the truth to 911 ever comes out.
@NOmeansnoFAN lol seriously dude you need to get the stick out of your ass and stop trying to justify yourself...110% is an expression, it doesn't make me stupid or "ignorant" its an expression to get my point across...lots of people use it, maybe if you got off your computer and stopped trying to uncover someone else's country's secrets and got out a little more you'd realize that...I'm also pretty sure I never misspelled anything during our little discussion and never corrected your spelling.
@poonkinator well that's because i haven't made any, maybe a typo or two. see i know how to spell, plus how to use this machine. Give 110% to someone else....after you get the last word in of course.
@NOmeansnoFAN right...I never did either, because I also know how to spell and use a computer. I really enjoy how you keep trying to win this argument when you know you've lost. Have fun on your computer wasting your life trying to prove the US government is corrupt. You might as well try to prove the sky to be blue. I'm going to go and enjoy my life now, have fun on your computer troll, feel free to have the last word because I really couldn't care any less about you thinking I'm "ignorant."
@machfron "hard, obvious, verifiable fact" lol there is NO legitimate evidance proving there was no planes, as a matter of fact, there is much more "hard, obvious, verifiable" evidance that there WERE planes. Thinking this was an inside job is one thing, but thinking there was no planes is certifiably insane. And BTW, we're not "shills" whatever the fuck those are, were just not retarded
@machfron Uuuh OH!!! Is that right? You better call up Stanley Praimnath and Brian Clarke and tell them that the wing tip impaled in their office ceiling really isn't there.
The only verifiable fact here is that there are MANY idiots out there!!
to many people refuse the facts.......fake planes or not...NANOTHERMITE was found recently in the dust of WTC,no media talk about it..!a new,fair investigation must be done..911 report was a farce!!!no one can denie that fact..the truth is scary,i agree..it would bring USA to its knees.............
you forgot gamma and contrast of the right wing notice in frame 1:54 you can see where the sun is shinning on the wing GIVE IT UP THERE WHERE REAL PLANES AND REAL WITNESSES
To split hair about Ace's plane's identicality is to miss the point. Ace was not showing EXACTLY what the ghost plane looked like but rather how it was most likely simulated.
Ace's point is that there were NO PLANES on 9/11 but he has been proven wrong so it is inaccurate to say "how it was most likely simulated". You might say "how it 'could' be simulated" but since it was not simulated the point is irrelevant.
No, not really. Ace's plane doesn't even look real, it looks like a shadow, just a black shape in the sky. The real plane has more 3d qualities, 'depth' and 'conture'.
I'll bet you $1000 that I can make a composite airplane and put it next to a real one, flying across the sky, behind a building, and you won't be able to tell which is which.
OH NOOO! Far be from me to take on the great Ace Baker! Besides, I do believe that you can make a respectable looking reproduction of an airplane.
That is not my biggest problem with your theories. Your theories ignore facts already 'in evidence'. Eye witnesses prove you wrong. In your arrogance you don't believe they exist but that is your problem. Your theories rely on hundreds if not thousands of people to be 'in on it' and that is just ridiculously impossible.
xxBIGKING2xx your argument about thousands being in on it is IRRELEVANT to the issue. 130,000 were involved in Manhatten project - yet today 60 years later virtually NO ONE can build atomic bombs - which is why lunatic governments around the world still do not have them - but NOT for lack of trying. People kept the atomic bomb program secret . If Someone WAS involved in 911 & they came forward then they would have LOTS TO LOSE personally. Thousands is NOT an argument either way.
Even the guy who recorded this clip was on air saying that he did not see a plane...that it just exploded. I think it was Gibson that had to reassure him that even though he did not see a plane that "WE" could all see on on tv. He was even so nice as to pause it for us just to make sure "WE" saw it.
People think *thousands* of people saw planes just because they MEDIA said their was! The MEDIA is owned and operated by the government - always has been! Just because the media says something (especially about 9/11) doesn't make it true! Peace.
And just because someone told you that the MEDIA was owned and operated by the government doesn't make it true. That is just more truther bullshit so they don't have to believe anything that is reported.
Is the media legally owned by the Govt? No. Or else we'd have an easy way of proving it. But the whole idea is complicated. The news channels are restricted by what their sponsors want them to say. It is NOT GOOD for a sponsor (corporation) if someone they're funding is slandering the Govt. People have been fired unjustly for this and found no justice at all in the flawed legal system. The corps run everything, they own the Stations they pay for, and they own the economy thus the Govt.
viperxxxxxx they cant own the media becuase that would be in violation of freedom of press. i think.... lol. woudlnt it tho? cuz we have a right to publish anything....or something like dat i dunno lol to lazy to research
@bboygreen123 - Not necessarily. There are contracts networks have to sign, they obviously can't advertise something that is in direct competition to an existing sponsor. The same goes with a certain level of censorship which yes in that case is a violation. But I bet off the top of your head you can recall many violations of rights that went unjust and often even caused by those who claim we should trust.
@bboygreen123 - It's either do and say what the corporations approve/tell you to or lose out on the largest sponsors. No Executive would ever make that decision, they, like citizens, will give up some freedoms and rights for greater reward or safety.
If you made it so easy, How fast could people of the Gov-Cospiracy did the same? They could even make a plane simulation weeks before 9/11 and than merge a siluette of a penetrating cruise missile witch a simulation ghost plane (to hide it). That`s possible. Outstanding work. Whish you people, make cleanup with yr gov before they become 100% nazi to you. If they could kill 5000 they can kill a milion. Regarts from U.E. (Poland)
First, you can do anything these days with video. You didn't prove anything special here. Second, people SAW a planes fly into the buildings WITH THEIR OWN EYES. Your theory demands that we ignore eye witness accounts, that somehow a person witnessing the event and then watching it later on TV would be fooled.
What impresses me, is that you probably typed that with a straight face. You have absolutely no evidence that there was any such system (except that one needs to exist to prove your theory), & you are deluded if you think all the media is controlled by one entity (I do have a problem with deregulation, but that's a matter for intelligent discourse). People, live people, real people, saw planes. Good grief, it happened on a business day in the heart of New York. Get out of the cave, dude.
the only people to happen to witness these planes crash live all happen to work for some sort of news network, like CNN, NBC or FOX. a strange coincidence, dont you think ?
adamsmark69: Do you really think people aren't going to LIE and say they saw planes on 9/11? By realizing the plane footages on 9/11 were fakes, it becomes obvious that no planes crashed, therefore NOBODY SAW THEM. Unfortunately, people WILL make up the story about seeing them in person.
This is the stupidest shit I ever seen, why all the conspiracy theories? The set up is simple, CIA trains cave dwellers to kill russians, gives them military hardware and later sits back and allows them to fly planes into the heart of the american economic infrastructure thus insighting pre-emptive strikes on Iraq for crude oil reserves...no robotic planes, no holograms, no fucking video filters, Just do NOTHING can't get more simple then that folks*
Of course what really nails Collin as a phony is looking at the impact from the opposite side. I made a super slow motion of that. Now you see what Collin and other kooks claim is a badly done composite with the plane's nose being where it shouldn't be is in fact the debris shooting out the edge of the building.
See for yourself:
watch?v=onjVOffRsRU
Pay particular attention to Myth # 4
It is easy to debunk kooks and their screwball theories as you see. All you need are facts.
Just to illustrate what a dummy this Collin nut case is the first thing he says in his video is adjust color and contrast. Well doing that would make your video stand out from all the others and call attention to it, thereby calling it into question. The exact opposite anyone trying to fake it would do. Unless of course you're just a crackpot and don't know any better. Trying to set a luma key for a moving object would be difficult because of chance of injecting halos & edge artfacts.
What you want to do is like trying to debate how Kennedy was shot in Dallas, but refusing to look at the Zaprude film that caught the fatal head shot.
Collin has ZERO creditability because he refuses to even discuss videos that show the event far better than the one crappy video he pretends was faked.
Sorry, I don't debate kooks, I expose them as crackpots.
Collin is like a three year old given his first box of crayons. He doesn't know the first things about drawing, he just scribbles all over the place.
Naturally if your his naturing parent you pat him on the head and tell him what a wonderful picture he made. Not!
The proof Colin and other crackpots like Ace Baker are rank amateurs is this SAME Fox TV crappy quality video and refuse to even discuss other videos that show events far differently than their crackpot claims.
Oh please be serious. No in-depth analysis needed to expose this crackpot's nonsense or yours.
He doesn't even want to show any better video and continues to try to deceive using only video where the building hides the actual impact. That speaks volumes.
Worse it doesn't even know the basics of what he is trying to babble about regarding compositing. The only thing he got right is he does use the word THEORY. And what a half-ass one he's trying to sell.
Lets just be Honest , The reason you Refuse to talk to COLLIN , is you are scared of being exposed as being an intellectual Lightweight on this subject and having No idea of what you are talking about.
Typing on here is very Limited and short, and doesnt lend itself to effectively getting into Lengthy detailed In depth Analysis .
Its a short box that only allows a few words , but a Phone Conversation allows for a REAL debate.
You were challenged and you backed down, its that simple
Listen up Collin, I'm giving a REAL professional tip. Ready? No professional would be caught dead using the term contrast. That adjustment is for the kiddie crowd that like to play with videos because they don't know any better.
You see if you "adjust" contrast it applies equally across all pixels resulting in some being under adjusted and others over adjusted. A professional would adjust using curves and levels.
See why I laugh at your half-ass conclusions? You don't have a clue!
The funny part about you loons is every video you try to use as "proof" to suggest it was faked can be totally blown out of the water by using other, higher quality videos showing the same event. So the half-ass conclusions are groundless, methods laughable and the technical knowledge is grossly lacking. if it wasn't so, you wouldn't have claimed what you have. Collin apparently doesn't know any better. Take one point in the vid where he claims "we adjust the color and contrast"
The funny part about you is You sure ' talk ' a tough game ON here hiding behind your computer making quick short Insults.
but when challenged to a more in depth analysis of all this over the Phone with COLLIN, you Totally backed down and ran and hid under your computer desk until it was ' safe' to Return back here wtih more Posts.
Face it, you were challenged to a Debate in a Format Phone convo, that is MUCH more in depth, and you Punked out.
It is obvious to anyone not sufferig from some psychoneurosis grounded in deep emotional excitability that all these screwballs believing that the 9/11 videos were faked are in desperate need of intense psychoanalysis. Yes YOU 911hasNOplanes, I'm talking about you, and Ace Baker and Collin. There is nothing to dive into. I KNOW with a 100% certainity that the videos brodcast were NOT faked.
All the evidence confirms that conclusion. You are living in a fantasy world. Pity.
" I KNOW with a 100% certainity that the videos brodcast were NOT faked "
Yea, you sure sound like a guy thats real confident of that, when you were politely challenged to have a Conversation about this topic Over the Phone and be challenged about your OPINION,
You totally retreated and Hid Under your computer desk clutching your beloved Mouse for safety, just waiting to write another post on here for the 1,000th time !
You acted like a gutless intellectual coward if you ask me
This Collin clown is just another clueless asswipe playing with his Mac throwing around random video compositing terms in some feeble attempt to impress rubes.
Well punk, I'm a professional videographer and editor and your bullshit only makes me and my fellow professionals bust into uncontrolled laughter watching your feeble half-baked theories that are as looney as you got to be. You really need to get laid. THAT seems to be your main problem.
The Man just Politely and Respectfully Offered to talk to you about all of this Over the Phone with the intent to be able to dive in More deeply to the subject matter.
And this is how you talk to him on here ?
" This Collin clown is just another clueless asswipe. Well punk, your bullshit only makes me and my fellow professionals bust into uncontrolled laughter etc. "
If this is TRULY how you feel, than its Rather Obvious you are Not sincere and are just here to Ridicule
What i find HIGHLY interesting and quite suspicious of actual planes being used is the FACT that out of all 4 'supposed' planes that were used on 911, we as regular citizens cant confirm that ANY were used going by the Live On Air Media covg. that day.
2 WTC planes dissapear into bldgs and then both collapse. Planes 77 and 93 we are told somehow just 'vaporized' and disintigrated upon impact.
LIVE on air videos 911 of Shankville field and Pentagon show NO plane parts
maybe the people on the inside left behind clues like this so people could know that the events of 911 were orchestrated by members of high society. like the guys that did the CGI intentionaly didnt do the best job fabricating fake planes.
maybe it was photoshopped maybe it wasnt! Check my videos for my friend TRON who totally witnessed the planes and FACES In the windows .. one woman looked right at him .. as a photoshop expert I can understand this and I do know what happened to the towers.. but I am sure that the first plane was real
if the 2nd plane was Fake, than the 1st one had to be also.
They would not use one real plane and one fake one, Since we know NO plane was used at Pentagon , and Shanksville PA story is highly doubtful, its very logical and rational to assume in all probability that NO planes were used at all
you could not be farther removed from reality and clearly lost no one dear to you on that day. I pitty you for being so downright inhuman and lacking in basic logic and reason. Clearly someone, somewhere failed you in what is reality and what is purely conspiratal lunnacy. You poor poor human. I pitty your existence.
"you could not be farther removed from reality and clearly lost no one dear to you on that day."- According to Bill Doyle, the founder of the largest 9/11 Victims Families organisation, more than half of the members believe 9/11 was an inside job and have been lobbying to get a truly independent investigation. There is alot going on in the background the mainstream media arn't reporting.
you are forgetting one thing though... Hitler, despite his irrepareable faults, was intelligent. The jury is still out on Bush's intelligence. Or lack of paying attention to intelligence, which allowed 9/11 to happen.
People who are new to this "no plane" videos don't know what to think at first. I am sure a number laugh at it because it just sound so extreme that the planes were faked during live coverage. However, one of the first questions is from new viewers are -- "What about the people that saw it live?"
The internet is there. Conduct your own research and keep an open mind. You do better find this out yourself as oppose to just listening to other people(s) views. Think and research for yourself.
Not one person... NOT ONE who claims these were fake lost a relative or a friend that day. I do not have an open mind for you people. You've lost my respect the second you considered that 9/11 was fake. Shame on you.
And you will find that people who have lost relative(s) are demanding more answers that I even will.
Questioning is VERY important because there is SO MANY missing pieces, and finding out the truth is the way to go... that is far more respectful for those that did die the sad day.
I think something was said similar to this line. All because I question the official story. LOL.
I advise you go back and watch Fox news. Its obviously the place where things make sense to you. Their full of truth there for people of your intelligence!
If they really used missiles, or internal explosions, and then went to all the trouble of "faking" planes and risk exposure to a secret plan/cover-up...
...why not just use ...real planes in the first place packed with explosives ????
Why fake the planes, when they could have easily used real ones?
There is no bigger picture. The US was attacked by a group of people who hate our culture, our way of life and we fostered this hatred by our foreign policy over the last 60 years.
Apparently we are told the US was attacked by a group of people that hate your culture. Same can be said regarding 7/7. If that was the truth, then everything would have been documented... but it is full of holes! Also, it seems more evident they are hiding and/or covering up pieces than anything.
All they have to do is release the Pentagon tapes of the plane crashing into the building and many conspiracies would be rejected. There are many cameras on the Pentagon... where are the tapes?
They would all show the same thing because the camera speed on the surveilance cameras is not that fast, which is why the only video we have has it looking like an explosion.
Your comment is basically a rational excuse in defending them.
It doesn't matter on the quality, they should be released anyway. Besides, are you telling me the Pentagon only uses poor quality cameras? I don't think so!
The only video of the pentagon (that I am aware of) comes from a local gas station near by. It is understandable for them to have poor camera.
It doesnt matter if they'll show the "same thing" as evidence says otherwise, and the tapes are proof, so why don't they release them?
Great Vid. But the Only thing with this video that bothers me is that the two planes do not look completely identical with each other, considering the shapes on the two planes, and the way they are flying.
No, I'm not doing your research for you. And I doubt googling 'star wars' or 'molecular dissociation' is going to bring up anything that will detail a 9/11 coverup.
then you shall remain a lazy idiot. star wars program, copy paste if its that tough look through 1 link, if its really nothing, you will have wasted maybe 10 seconds of your life. its not up to me but why ask then in the first place?
Black, you're not willing to show citations for your arguments and I'm the lazy one? OR maybe you realize that your argument proves that your intelligence is lacking.
I did your little experiment though. Googled "Star Wars" and hit -I'm feeling lucky-. You convinced me! George Lucas is part of the conspiracy!
And spending five minutes a day proving people wrong who try to promote fanties as fact, doesn't really take up too much of my life. Thanks for your concern though.
Lets say for a moment that these theories were true. How in the world would someone manage to put the ammounts of explosives in the towers, without anybody working in thos buildings, noticing it??
Ok.. I dunno about those. But what is strange is that the different clips of the second planehit, show the plane hit the second tower with different angles. On one clip the plane is 90 degrees, on another it is just bearly skewed...
Actually, I don't think that's right. The different apparent angles of the plane flight appear to be correct, as far as I can tell. The angle of the plane would obviously be very different, depending on viewing position.
The plane flight would be created once, in a 3D environment like Lightwave. It could then be rendered from any virtual camera position, matching the real camera position in the underlying shot.
Of course, mistakes on angle could be made, but I doubt it.
So how do you explain the countless other video footage of the second plane hit!?! All fakes? Are you out of your mind!?! It was a tragedy, yes, conspiracy, no! Get over it and move on!!!!
Have you even looked at the facts davey, like honestly looked at the facts. Lol anyone who says its not a conspiracy is either a) ignorant b) too dumbed down by soceity c)both. go watch fox news they will tell you the truth alright.
Yah because the planes that crashed in three other sites wer just enormous birds with people inside. And so were these, except the people in the fake ones had fake cell phones along with imaginary family member that they called and put on imagination tv.
911 secrets got killed off the same as Tesla. Two of the best cover jobs in history. Just keep them alive in the "Alternate History Books". Thanks for showing us 9/11/01, a date that will live in alternate history infamy. Fox lies and will never tell the truth.
Oh, I remember you! You're everywhere on youtube spreading your useless propaganda :)
How are you? Wasn't you the one who saw the plane hitting the pentagon? You realize that even the rest of the 9/11 truth movement laughs at you, right? :)
'Cover up tv fakery'? There's nothing to cover up. It wasn't fake. The videos are real. There is no proof that they aren't real. Just silly wild imaginations from people who smoke too much weed.
But of course there's nothing to cover up. That's why you keep spamming every single well based video about fake planes and tv fakery with your attempts to insult, ridicule and confuse all and every argument presented :)
And talking about weed. You're the one seeing things here. Remember you seeing the plane hitting the pentagon? ;)
'Well Based' Ha! Can you show me one video expert who can support your idea that the videos are faked. You have a video expert saved on your favorites that disagrees with what you say. The truth movement is over. Give over it and get on with your life.
You all have the same speech! It's hilarious! Do you have secret meetings where you practice all this deception tactics? Or do you just share the best by e-mail? And are you checking my list of favorites too? Oh dear, I hope I have nothing that may compromise my credibility :)
And yes, I added the video from mister Wieck and mister Steve for when I need something to laugh about. I have other comic videos as you might already know ;)
And if you sir want to talk about experts supporting our cause I might present you a very well known scientist who would never agree with what's seen on each video showing the plane hitting the south wall of the second tower.
It's Sir Isaac Newton. You might heard about him. He even made physic laws which deny the possibility that what we see on these videos could be real. He's a real pain in lier's asses.
What law did the planes break exactly? I here CTS talk about broken laws of physics, but then never explain them (accurately). Why don't you do me the favor of explaining what law has been broken.
And yes, the Wright Baker debate is laughable. Watching an expert show a novice why his ideas are far fetched is entertaining.
Finally, why would I go into my account of the pentagon again. You don't trust eyewitness testimony when it proves you dumb.
Muzic, if you want a good laugh review all your posts and theories. We're not changing the subject to the pentagon. (I'll prove you wrong about that later). First you need to find a video/audio expert to prove your WTC claims.
you sir, are a grade A douche!
naykmonkey 2 months ago
Nice job Man
atorresk22 3 months ago
Good job! Looks just as real as the TV cartoon we were showed.
73849309378 5 months ago
I'd say it's pretty certain that planes hit the tower from watching actual footage from that day. I don't think one can honestly dispute that. What should be disputed is A.) Black box cover up, possibly indicating that the planes were flown by remote control (See The Lone Gunmen Pilot episode, shot in march 4 2001 that talks about almost exactly what happened 911) B. Those towers were brought down by demolition.
JoeyStockton 5 months ago
Unfortunately lives were lost that day. No Matter What Conspiracy Theories people come up with.!! R.I.P. to all the people who died on that tragic day.
VIPER534 6 months ago
LOL. It's amazing that this computer thing also made it appear in real life, so all those people who saw it on the streets were also fooled. It must have been a Mac. My shitty Windows OS can't even create matter out of nothing and fool a city of 8 million people. It's like I'm living in the middle ages!
thecartoonhero87 11 months ago
If you know a pilot ask him or her how fast planes can fly at 700 feet altitude. They take off and land at under 200 MPH. These planes are going over 500 MPH - official report. The video backs up the speed of 500 +. Calculate how many frames it takes for the plane to travel its own length with the frame rate and you get 500 + MPH. Impossible. Ask a pilot.
ThoughtCrime7 1 year ago 2
@ThoughtCrime7 so your telling me that a plane can only go a maximum speed of 200 mph at 700 feet because they land at 200mph, did you ever think that when planes land they don't have their engines at full throttle, that they are SLOWING DOWN to land, nice try, you sir are retarded, a plane could easily fly 500 mph at any altitude by being a full throttle
cnave21 2 weeks ago in playlist More videos from CollinAlexander
@cnave21 It's you against the pilots. You aint a pilot, you're a shill.
ThoughtCrime7 2 weeks ago
@cnave21
A 767 is NOT a military aircraft and is NOT designed for fast, low level flight. A 767 cannot travel 500mph at 800ft in a controlled flight situation because of air density and structural integrity. Trying to go full throttle at lower altitudes would alter the proper fuel/air mixture in the combustion cans and essentially flood and stall the powerplants. You've never turned a wrench on a bird, have you Skippy?
lmfecher 1 day ago
planes are still real.
FunkyGranny9 1 year ago
this video is nothing but cheap rotoscoping that a trained monkey can do. All you did was copy existing footage you fool, while you are alleging that the perps created brand new footage - that's a whole different ball game so you have proved NOTHING. I am a professional animator and have NEVER seen any evidence that ANY of the planes were "cartoons" or whatever you claim.
smitty121981 1 year ago
@smitty121981 that's right you have seen no evidence of planes at all
skibee50 1 year ago
that is FOX 11 so cal... right?
18diegodd 1 year ago
I'm just wondering, to all you conspiracy theorists, if you think the gov't is okay with killing 3000 of its own citizens without objection to justify war, don't you think you're all being somewhat passive about it? I mean, your posting your ideas about it online, but if you really felt the government is as evil as you say, shouldn't you be doing something more drastic/proactive? According to you, shouldn't the gov't have "silenced" you all long ago?
zeppelinfan444 1 year ago
@zeppelinfan444 Most of the leaders of the "truth movement" are actually controlled opposition.
CollinAlexander 1 year ago 13
@CollinAlexander What, they're appointed by the gov't like that one South Park episode?
zeppelinfan444 1 year ago
@CollinAlexander "Most of the leaders of the "truth movement" are actually controlled opposition" hahaha it's the first time one of you fuckers actually made me laugh, you are actually insane, did you know? lol Now you're even turning on your own
ninemen123 1 year ago
@zeppelinfan444
who says we're all being passive?!?
watch?v=qck89mVuZdk
watch?v=PBg4hJt7jvY
watch?v=apGCoLqQUKc
btw, I don't buy into any of this "no planes" crap. You can see in the third video that a citizen is concerned about this, and I feel it discredits the real and convincing evidence of explosive demolition, such as extremely high temperatures, tiny explosive fragments found in the dust, the freefall of WTC7, abnormal toxic emissions from the debris, the lack of fire-collapse precedent
smitty121981 1 year ago
@zeppelinfan444 ...in my opinion the gov't has not silenced all of the conspiracy theorists because there's many people (probably as you) that still believe in the official version even though the proofs of conspiracy are clear and evident...youtube has not the same power as television has that reaches people much easier and in a more effective way. Infact the official version is still in many peoples mind...the conspiracy theorists are a really small part of the mass unfortunately
againstconsolation 1 year ago 2
@zeppelinfan444 because theres a little something called COINTELPRO derrrr.
HamBoneTea 7 months ago
Wow!
Azure260 1 year ago
nice work... still i have seen the airplane with my own eyes. they were real!
VITASMUPH 1 year ago
eyewitnesses are actually not credible at all. google "eyewitness credibility" and read the report from Stanford. the fallibility of the human memory is astounding.
have you seen the video with the two teams passing a ball and you don't even notice the gorilla running around?
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
"A demonstration of the video compositing technique used live on 9/11"
Except this demonstration wasn't done live, so this video is retarded.
AceBaker911/ColinAlexander/LifeRegenRevolution is a pedophile, and should be arrested.
Look at LifeRegenRevolution's page, it's full of videos of underage girls.
AceBakerPedophile 1 year ago
how the hell can u guys say there were no planes? it was obvious from people standing right there when it happend, u cant say there were no planes!!!! it was captured on camera with about half of new york looking with thier own eyes. but yes there were bombs in the building. the witnesses say that there were several more explosions after the plane crashes.
bboygreen123 2 years ago
@bboygreen123 yes it is completely rediculous isnt it? Boggles the mind....My guess is that it started as a disinformation campaign to make the whole 'truth' movement seem silly....It started that way then others with well intentions, but poor reasoning skills took the bait. Now it is self perpetuating. When there is so much good evidence such as the rate at which the buildings fell, its a shame idiots like this are around causing damage to any credibility the movement has.
frankensteinmoneymac 1 year ago
@bboygreen123 im still not sure about an inside job, the bombs in the building can possibly be explained as stress fractures, when you put enough pressure on steel and concrete, it will snap and crack making very loud explosive noises, Not to mention any fire extinguisher or pressurized fire-suppression tanks would easily explode when exposed to such heat. Again, I'm not saying it wasn't an inside job, Im just thinkin out loud, because unlike alot of people, I DONT want it to be an inside job.
poonkinator 1 year ago
@poonkinator the reports from maintenance of the basement exploding, before the second plane hit? evidence of nanothermite? the immense heat for days after efen when doused? the "magic" passports? lack of airport images of the terrorists? the fact they were ALL SAUDIS? some of who are alive. the "coincidence of the exact drill being done at the exact time? same with 7/7/7!!! it goes on and on.
and the undeniable fact that the core would not have collapsed as it did without help.
Marvin BUSH?
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
@NOmeansnoFAN i never said it wasn't an inside job, in fact neither side has really convinced me yet...Im just saying that just because somebody says its an inside job or theres evidence pointing to that doesn't mean it necessarily was one. Every one might think a person is gay and everything points to it...doesn't mean that person is gay. I know thats a weird analogy but its the same basic thing lol...and the idea that the planes were holographs is absolutely absurd.
poonkinator 1 year ago
@NOmeansnoFAN plus they weren't ALL saudi, Atta was an Egyptian, one was Lebanese, and one was from the united arab emirates. I'm not sure why everyone WANTS this to be a conspiracy, so much that people will make shit up and make the conspiracy theorists look bad and make them loose credibility
poonkinator 1 year ago
@poonkinator true 15 of them were. none were Iraqi. Yet....
and of course it was a conspiracy. You have let the media and govt alter your dictionary. No matter who did this it was a conspiracy. Like communism and anarchy, the powers that be have altered our language.
A democratic communist state is 100% plausible, matter of fact it would be the only way to have a true communist state. But you probably think china is communist.
Not according to Marx!
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
@NOmeansnoFAN fair point about the conspiracy...but i said inside job, not conspiracy...and maybe Marx wouldn't believe China to be a TRUE communist state, but they still have many characteristics of communism in their government.
poonkinator 1 year ago
@poonkinator "I'm not sure why everyone WANTS this to be a conspiracy," is what you wrote.
To China communism means keep the populous poor, while the upper echelon lives like kings...not what ol' karl had in mind. Actually they are setting the stage for what will be the largest revolution this world has ever seen.
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
@NOmeansnoFAN ok besides that part i said it was an inside job...not sure why you're out to get me just because I'm thinking things through before jumping to conclusions like many people do in this situation lol
poonkinator 1 year ago
@poonkinator " you're out to get me" uhmm don't flatter yourself. Just pointing out your ignorance. Other's ignorance is another comment, directed at another idiot.
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
@NOmeansnoFAN Ignorance? Idiot? I never disagreed with you, I've said that many times. I'm asking questions, doing research, thinking things over before I jump on the Bandwagon and believe it was an inside job just because everyone says it is and you call THAT ignorant? Its the complete opposite of Ignorant. If anyones being ignorant its YOU, attacking me personally simply because I don't believe EVERYTHING that you do. True example of close-mindedness and arrogance.
poonkinator 1 year ago
@poonkinator the ignorance and idiot comment originates from what you actually wrote, not its alignment with my views. There is a difference between being open minded and just not being able to make up one's mind.
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
@NOmeansnoFAN well if I weren't open minded I wouldve made up my mind already...being open minded is the main reason I haven't made up my mind, but you're wasting both of our time by trying to find things to criticize me for just because I don't fully agree with you...have fun trolling, I'll worry about more important things while I let you "prove" the government to be corrupt and greedy. Have fun with that I'm sure You'll really make a difference lol XD
poonkinator 1 year ago
@poonkinator trouble reading much? I wrote, and I quote: " There is a difference between being open minded and just not being able to make up one's mind" A troll, by definition, intentionally tries to get a rise out of people. If you can't take the criticism of your inane comments then tough titties, I do not care about your fragile emotional state. The inaccuracies and inconsistencies, and down right omissions in the 911 commish IS proof of the corrupt government running the US
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
@NOmeansnoFAN inane comments lol...all I said was I haven't made up my mind yet...and yes I said conspiracy because, like you said, the way we use that word has changed since 9/11 and when 9/11 and conspiracy are used in the same sentence, its really common knowledge that Im talking about an inside job...ITS YOUTUBE, not harvard...I really don't understand why that would piss you off so much hahaha...
poonkinator 1 year ago
well without proper use of words we are ushering in the Orwellian language, newspeak, where we will not be able to converse adequately. You have not pissed me off, but just irritated me slightly. There are many "conspiracy theories" around 911 and one of them is that 19 hijackers were responsible, mind you there is not a whole lot of evidence. But to think those buildings fell as they did by planes alone is laughable. To think a 767 can pass through 6 walls of reinforced concrete is ludicrous.
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
@NOmeansnoFAN AND I agree 110% that our government is corrupt, that doesn't necessarily mean that they were behind 9/11 (not saying they werent behind it so don't freak out AGAIN) plus you're from Canada so not sure why you have this sense of superiority over americans. EVERY government is corrupt in some way, America is just the easiest to point out because everyone hates us already. Hell you're prolly just gonna find some grammatical flaw in this and call me an ignorant idiot aren't you lol
poonkinator 1 year ago
I only point out blatant spelling errors when people are correcting other and make them, as you can see i am not grammatically correct on here either. It is the "shut up moran" comments that get my ire
The 110% bit, like spinal tap's "it goes to 11" is also a error.
It has been almost 50 years since your govt assassinated its leader and with no truth yet, so I would not be surprised if the truth to 911 ever comes out.
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
@NOmeansnoFAN lol seriously dude you need to get the stick out of your ass and stop trying to justify yourself...110% is an expression, it doesn't make me stupid or "ignorant" its an expression to get my point across...lots of people use it, maybe if you got off your computer and stopped trying to uncover someone else's country's secrets and got out a little more you'd realize that...I'm also pretty sure I never misspelled anything during our little discussion and never corrected your spelling.
poonkinator 1 year ago
@poonkinator well that's because i haven't made any, maybe a typo or two. see i know how to spell, plus how to use this machine. Give 110% to someone else....after you get the last word in of course.
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
@NOmeansnoFAN right...I never did either, because I also know how to spell and use a computer. I really enjoy how you keep trying to win this argument when you know you've lost. Have fun on your computer wasting your life trying to prove the US government is corrupt. You might as well try to prove the sky to be blue. I'm going to go and enjoy my life now, have fun on your computer troll, feel free to have the last word because I really couldn't care any less about you thinking I'm "ignorant."
poonkinator 1 year ago
The shills are desperate.The hard obvious verifiable fact is there were no planes.
machfron 2 years ago
@machfron "hard, obvious, verifiable fact" lol there is NO legitimate evidance proving there was no planes, as a matter of fact, there is much more "hard, obvious, verifiable" evidance that there WERE planes. Thinking this was an inside job is one thing, but thinking there was no planes is certifiably insane. And BTW, we're not "shills" whatever the fuck those are, were just not retarded
poonkinator 1 year ago
@machfron Uuuh OH!!! Is that right? You better call up Stanley Praimnath and Brian Clarke and tell them that the wing tip impaled in their office ceiling really isn't there.
The only verifiable fact here is that there are MANY idiots out there!!
roquefortfiles 1 year ago
This is not the way they did it, but it's a good example about how easy to do it could be.
jesudel 2 years ago
to many people refuse the facts.......fake planes or not...NANOTHERMITE was found recently in the dust of WTC,no media talk about it..!a new,fair investigation must be done..911 report was a farce!!!no one can denie that fact..the truth is scary,i agree..it would bring USA to its knees.............
aligoulou 2 years ago 6
@aligoulou Obama will do that just fine, with out 911 truth.
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
you forgot gamma and contrast of the right wing notice in frame 1:54 you can see where the sun is shinning on the wing GIVE IT UP THERE WHERE REAL PLANES AND REAL WITNESSES
BitchImBroke 2 years ago
To split hair about Ace's plane's identicality is to miss the point. Ace was not showing EXACTLY what the ghost plane looked like but rather how it was most likely simulated.
ZotDudot7 2 years ago
Ace's point is that there were NO PLANES on 9/11 but he has been proven wrong so it is inaccurate to say "how it was most likely simulated". You might say "how it 'could' be simulated" but since it was not simulated the point is irrelevant.
xxBIGKING2xx 2 years ago
For those of you who believe there WERE planes, you at least have to admit this is a well made video. C'mon.
ZotDudot7 2 years ago
No, not really. Ace's plane doesn't even look real, it looks like a shadow, just a black shape in the sky. The real plane has more 3d qualities, 'depth' and 'conture'.
xxBIGKING2xx 2 years ago
I'll bet you $1000 that I can make a composite airplane and put it next to a real one, flying across the sky, behind a building, and you won't be able to tell which is which.
Game, Big King?
CollinAlexander 2 years ago
OH NOOO! Far be from me to take on the great Ace Baker! Besides, I do believe that you can make a respectable looking reproduction of an airplane.
That is not my biggest problem with your theories. Your theories ignore facts already 'in evidence'. Eye witnesses prove you wrong. In your arrogance you don't believe they exist but that is your problem. Your theories rely on hundreds if not thousands of people to be 'in on it' and that is just ridiculously impossible.
xxBIGKING2xx 2 years ago
xxBIGKING2xx your argument about thousands being in on it is IRRELEVANT to the issue. 130,000 were involved in Manhatten project - yet today 60 years later virtually NO ONE can build atomic bombs - which is why lunatic governments around the world still do not have them - but NOT for lack of trying. People kept the atomic bomb program secret . If Someone WAS involved in 911 & they came forward then they would have LOTS TO LOSE personally. Thousands is NOT an argument either way.
9114steve 2 years ago
@9114steve it is not the theory of a nuke that is hard to do, any 1st year physics student could design one, but the raw materials.
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
Even the guy who recorded this clip was on air saying that he did not see a plane...that it just exploded. I think it was Gibson that had to reassure him that even though he did not see a plane that "WE" could all see on on tv. He was even so nice as to pause it for us just to make sure "WE" saw it.
TIKOMIX 2 years ago
People think *thousands* of people saw planes just because they MEDIA said their was! The MEDIA is owned and operated by the government - always has been! Just because the media says something (especially about 9/11) doesn't make it true! Peace.
hankwheels 2 years ago
And just because someone told you that the MEDIA was owned and operated by the government doesn't make it true. That is just more truther bullshit so they don't have to believe anything that is reported.
xxBIGKING2xx 2 years ago
Disgusting corrupt shill.
machfron 2 years ago
Is the media legally owned by the Govt? No. Or else we'd have an easy way of proving it. But the whole idea is complicated. The news channels are restricted by what their sponsors want them to say. It is NOT GOOD for a sponsor (corporation) if someone they're funding is slandering the Govt. People have been fired unjustly for this and found no justice at all in the flawed legal system. The corps run everything, they own the Stations they pay for, and they own the economy thus the Govt.
ViperXXXXXXX 2 years ago
viperxxxxxx they cant own the media becuase that would be in violation of freedom of press. i think.... lol. woudlnt it tho? cuz we have a right to publish anything....or something like dat i dunno lol to lazy to research
bboygreen123 2 years ago
@bboygreen123 - Not necessarily. There are contracts networks have to sign, they obviously can't advertise something that is in direct competition to an existing sponsor. The same goes with a certain level of censorship which yes in that case is a violation. But I bet off the top of your head you can recall many violations of rights that went unjust and often even caused by those who claim we should trust.
ViperXXXXXXX 2 years ago
@bboygreen123 - It's either do and say what the corporations approve/tell you to or lose out on the largest sponsors. No Executive would ever make that decision, they, like citizens, will give up some freedoms and rights for greater reward or safety.
ViperXXXXXXX 2 years ago
GREAT VIDEO! Thanks for for posting!
hankwheels 2 years ago
If you made it so easy, How fast could people of the Gov-Cospiracy did the same? They could even make a plane simulation weeks before 9/11 and than merge a siluette of a penetrating cruise missile witch a simulation ghost plane (to hide it). That`s possible. Outstanding work. Whish you people, make cleanup with yr gov before they become 100% nazi to you. If they could kill 5000 they can kill a milion. Regarts from U.E. (Poland)
unboot 2 years ago
First, you can do anything these days with video. You didn't prove anything special here. Second, people SAW a planes fly into the buildings WITH THEIR OWN EYES. Your theory demands that we ignore eye witness accounts, that somehow a person witnessing the event and then watching it later on TV would be fooled.
adamsmark69 2 years ago
You don't get it... this is called system redundancy - its a back up in case the laser guided drones failed. all the stations were fed from one link.
blackArt2000 2 years ago
What impresses me, is that you probably typed that with a straight face. You have absolutely no evidence that there was any such system (except that one needs to exist to prove your theory), & you are deluded if you think all the media is controlled by one entity (I do have a problem with deregulation, but that's a matter for intelligent discourse). People, live people, real people, saw planes. Good grief, it happened on a business day in the heart of New York. Get out of the cave, dude.
adamsmark69 2 years ago
the only people to happen to witness these planes crash live all happen to work for some sort of news network, like CNN, NBC or FOX. a strange coincidence, dont you think ?
EvilWarlock666 2 years ago
adamsmark69: Do you really think people aren't going to LIE and say they saw planes on 9/11? By realizing the plane footages on 9/11 were fakes, it becomes obvious that no planes crashed, therefore NOBODY SAW THEM. Unfortunately, people WILL make up the story about seeing them in person.
steelerzrockin 2 years ago
Thanks for the post! Sharing this with all my friends!
hankwheels 2 years ago
Tell me, why don't you show us the source that has Norman Minetta claiming inside job? After all, you made that claim.
Everyone watch, this fuckwit will tell me that it's in a certain video. Yet he really won't be mentioned anywhere in that video.
MrRandomGuy86 2 years ago
This is the stupidest shit I ever seen, why all the conspiracy theories? The set up is simple, CIA trains cave dwellers to kill russians, gives them military hardware and later sits back and allows them to fly planes into the heart of the american economic infrastructure thus insighting pre-emptive strikes on Iraq for crude oil reserves...no robotic planes, no holograms, no fucking video filters, Just do NOTHING can't get more simple then that folks*
mookixox 2 years ago
I guess we're making progress. Ace Baker, admitted HE is Collin.
willieofroanoke 2 years ago
Of course what really nails Collin as a phony is looking at the impact from the opposite side. I made a super slow motion of that. Now you see what Collin and other kooks claim is a badly done composite with the plane's nose being where it shouldn't be is in fact the debris shooting out the edge of the building.
See for yourself:
watch?v=onjVOffRsRU
Pay particular attention to Myth # 4
It is easy to debunk kooks and their screwball theories as you see. All you need are facts.
willieofroanoke 2 years ago
Just to illustrate what a dummy this Collin nut case is the first thing he says in his video is adjust color and contrast. Well doing that would make your video stand out from all the others and call attention to it, thereby calling it into question. The exact opposite anyone trying to fake it would do. Unless of course you're just a crackpot and don't know any better. Trying to set a luma key for a moving object would be difficult because of chance of injecting halos & edge artfacts.
willieofroanoke 2 years ago
What you want to do is like trying to debate how Kennedy was shot in Dallas, but refusing to look at the Zaprude film that caught the fatal head shot.
Collin has ZERO creditability because he refuses to even discuss videos that show the event far better than the one crappy video he pretends was faked.
Sorry, I don't debate kooks, I expose them as crackpots.
willieofroanoke 2 years ago
Collin is like a three year old given his first box of crayons. He doesn't know the first things about drawing, he just scribbles all over the place.
Naturally if your his naturing parent you pat him on the head and tell him what a wonderful picture he made. Not!
The proof Colin and other crackpots like Ace Baker are rank amateurs is this SAME Fox TV crappy quality video and refuse to even discuss other videos that show events far differently than their crackpot claims.
willieofroanoke 2 years ago
Oh please be serious. No in-depth analysis needed to expose this crackpot's nonsense or yours.
He doesn't even want to show any better video and continues to try to deceive using only video where the building hides the actual impact. That speaks volumes.
Worse it doesn't even know the basics of what he is trying to babble about regarding compositing. The only thing he got right is he does use the word THEORY. And what a half-ass one he's trying to sell.
willieofroanoke 2 years ago
Inquiring minds want to know... why doesn't Collin use videos that show the approach and crash from further out or the other side of the building?
Collin "expertise' is par with a chimp banging on a toy piano and trying to say he's playing a song.
Most importantly why is Collin afraid to show the impact from the other side of the building?
I'm not:
watch?v=onjVOffRsRU
You're such a phony Collin. Why do you try so hard to sell a lie?
willieofroanoke 2 years ago
Lets just be Honest , The reason you Refuse to talk to COLLIN , is you are scared of being exposed as being an intellectual Lightweight on this subject and having No idea of what you are talking about.
Typing on here is very Limited and short, and doesnt lend itself to effectively getting into Lengthy detailed In depth Analysis .
Its a short box that only allows a few words , but a Phone Conversation allows for a REAL debate.
You were challenged and you backed down, its that simple
911hasNOplanes 2 years ago
Listen up Collin, I'm giving a REAL professional tip. Ready? No professional would be caught dead using the term contrast. That adjustment is for the kiddie crowd that like to play with videos because they don't know any better.
You see if you "adjust" contrast it applies equally across all pixels resulting in some being under adjusted and others over adjusted. A professional would adjust using curves and levels.
See why I laugh at your half-ass conclusions? You don't have a clue!
willieofroanoke 2 years ago
The funny part about you loons is every video you try to use as "proof" to suggest it was faked can be totally blown out of the water by using other, higher quality videos showing the same event. So the half-ass conclusions are groundless, methods laughable and the technical knowledge is grossly lacking. if it wasn't so, you wouldn't have claimed what you have. Collin apparently doesn't know any better. Take one point in the vid where he claims "we adjust the color and contrast"
willieofroanoke 2 years ago
The funny part about you is You sure ' talk ' a tough game ON here hiding behind your computer making quick short Insults.
but when challenged to a more in depth analysis of all this over the Phone with COLLIN, you Totally backed down and ran and hid under your computer desk until it was ' safe' to Return back here wtih more Posts.
Face it, you were challenged to a Debate in a Format Phone convo, that is MUCH more in depth, and you Punked out.
Dude, you're a Coward
911hasNOplanes 2 years ago
It is obvious to anyone not sufferig from some psychoneurosis grounded in deep emotional excitability that all these screwballs believing that the 9/11 videos were faked are in desperate need of intense psychoanalysis. Yes YOU 911hasNOplanes, I'm talking about you, and Ace Baker and Collin. There is nothing to dive into. I KNOW with a 100% certainity that the videos brodcast were NOT faked.
All the evidence confirms that conclusion. You are living in a fantasy world. Pity.
willieofroanoke 2 years ago
" I KNOW with a 100% certainity that the videos brodcast were NOT faked "
Yea, you sure sound like a guy thats real confident of that, when you were politely challenged to have a Conversation about this topic Over the Phone and be challenged about your OPINION,
You totally retreated and Hid Under your computer desk clutching your beloved Mouse for safety, just waiting to write another post on here for the 1,000th time !
You acted like a gutless intellectual coward if you ask me
911hasNOplanes 2 years ago
This Collin clown is just another clueless asswipe playing with his Mac throwing around random video compositing terms in some feeble attempt to impress rubes.
Well punk, I'm a professional videographer and editor and your bullshit only makes me and my fellow professionals bust into uncontrolled laughter watching your feeble half-baked theories that are as looney as you got to be. You really need to get laid. THAT seems to be your main problem.
willieofroanoke 2 years ago
The Man just Politely and Respectfully Offered to talk to you about all of this Over the Phone with the intent to be able to dive in More deeply to the subject matter.
And this is how you talk to him on here ?
" This Collin clown is just another clueless asswipe. Well punk, your bullshit only makes me and my fellow professionals bust into uncontrolled laughter etc. "
If this is TRULY how you feel, than its Rather Obvious you are Not sincere and are just here to Ridicule
911hasNOplanes 2 years ago
this is a a great discovery. is the cgi plane in common to all the video editing sofwear?
aHeavenscent 2 years ago
What i find HIGHLY interesting and quite suspicious of actual planes being used is the FACT that out of all 4 'supposed' planes that were used on 911, we as regular citizens cant confirm that ANY were used going by the Live On Air Media covg. that day.
2 WTC planes dissapear into bldgs and then both collapse. Planes 77 and 93 we are told somehow just 'vaporized' and disintigrated upon impact.
LIVE on air videos 911 of Shankville field and Pentagon show NO plane parts
LHOs911Lies 2 years ago
maybe the people on the inside left behind clues like this so people could know that the events of 911 were orchestrated by members of high society. like the guys that did the CGI intentionaly didnt do the best job fabricating fake planes.
aHeavenscent 2 years ago
maybe it was photoshopped maybe it wasnt! Check my videos for my friend TRON who totally witnessed the planes and FACES In the windows .. one woman looked right at him .. as a photoshop expert I can understand this and I do know what happened to the towers.. but I am sure that the first plane was real
rasjahjah 3 years ago
if the 2nd plane was Fake, than the 1st one had to be also.
They would not use one real plane and one fake one, Since we know NO plane was used at Pentagon , and Shanksville PA story is highly doubtful, its very logical and rational to assume in all probability that NO planes were used at all
jblaz1024 3 years ago
you could not be farther removed from reality and clearly lost no one dear to you on that day. I pitty you for being so downright inhuman and lacking in basic logic and reason. Clearly someone, somewhere failed you in what is reality and what is purely conspiratal lunnacy. You poor poor human. I pitty your existence.
macflinn 2 years ago
"you could not be farther removed from reality and clearly lost no one dear to you on that day."- According to Bill Doyle, the founder of the largest 9/11 Victims Families organisation, more than half of the members believe 9/11 was an inside job and have been lobbying to get a truly independent investigation. There is alot going on in the background the mainstream media arn't reporting.
Focoist911 2 years ago
Then keep filing FIFA requests jackass till you get your answer
macflinn 2 years ago
"if the 2nd plane was Fake, than the 1st one had to be also." - Yeh but they decided it was too risky to fake CCTV of the Pentagon strike.
Focoist911 2 years ago
The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.
Adolf Hitler
Hitler knew it, did it - why not Bush
All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.
Adolf Hitler
I'm no nazi, and i'm sure many of you ain't either. but you can't deny how well Hitler quotes fits on G.w.Bush
Vnicolas 3 years ago 8
you are forgetting one thing though... Hitler, despite his irrepareable faults, was intelligent. The jury is still out on Bush's intelligence. Or lack of paying attention to intelligence, which allowed 9/11 to happen.
macflinn 2 years ago
@Vnicolas Bush gave a speech after 9/11 nearly identical to that of hitler.
rockhydra 7 months ago 4
its funny that they only filmed the front side of the building and tht no-one saw what really happened from behind
anfieldgsta01 3 years ago
wait....
so ur saying the planes were fake??
then what about the people who actually saw them in real life???
im probably missing something rite?
conor789789 3 years ago
People who are new to this "no plane" videos don't know what to think at first. I am sure a number laugh at it because it just sound so extreme that the planes were faked during live coverage. However, one of the first questions is from new viewers are -- "What about the people that saw it live?"
The internet is there. Conduct your own research and keep an open mind. You do better find this out yourself as oppose to just listening to other people(s) views. Think and research for yourself.
wrestler50000 3 years ago 2
Not one person... NOT ONE who claims these were fake lost a relative or a friend that day. I do not have an open mind for you people. You've lost my respect the second you considered that 9/11 was fake. Shame on you.
macflinn 3 years ago
And you will find that people who have lost relative(s) are demanding more answers that I even will.
Questioning is VERY important because there is SO MANY missing pieces, and finding out the truth is the way to go... that is far more respectful for those that did die the sad day.
I guess its shame on me.
wrestler50000 3 years ago
yes it is shame on you.
macflinn 3 years ago
"If you are not with us, then your a terrorist"
I think something was said similar to this line. All because I question the official story. LOL.
I advise you go back and watch Fox news. Its obviously the place where things make sense to you. Their full of truth there for people of your intelligence!
LOL.
wrestler50000 3 years ago
Um, maybe a bigger question is....
If they really used missiles, or internal explosions, and then went to all the trouble of "faking" planes and risk exposure to a secret plan/cover-up...
...why not just use ...real planes in the first place packed with explosives ????
Why fake the planes, when they could have easily used real ones?
FreqBand 3 years ago
Because real planes would not have the same effect.
Planes are fragile.
Buildings are strong.
Get it?
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
you are a fucking idiot.
macflinn 3 years ago
I do like that saying -- "Fucking idiot"
So... it's an idiot fucking? Fucking is a good thing, as we all like to have a good fuck. Maybe not you macflinn.
I guess there are some people that fail to see the bigger picture like yourself.
wrestler50000 3 years ago
There is no bigger picture. The US was attacked by a group of people who hate our culture, our way of life and we fostered this hatred by our foreign policy over the last 60 years.
macflinn 3 years ago
Apparently we are told the US was attacked by a group of people that hate your culture. Same can be said regarding 7/7. If that was the truth, then everything would have been documented... but it is full of holes! Also, it seems more evident they are hiding and/or covering up pieces than anything.
All they have to do is release the Pentagon tapes of the plane crashing into the building and many conspiracies would be rejected. There are many cameras on the Pentagon... where are the tapes?
wrestler50000 3 years ago
They would all show the same thing because the camera speed on the surveilance cameras is not that fast, which is why the only video we have has it looking like an explosion.
macflinn 3 years ago
Your comment is basically a rational excuse in defending them.
It doesn't matter on the quality, they should be released anyway. Besides, are you telling me the Pentagon only uses poor quality cameras? I don't think so!
The only video of the pentagon (that I am aware of) comes from a local gas station near by. It is understandable for them to have poor camera.
It doesnt matter if they'll show the "same thing" as evidence says otherwise, and the tapes are proof, so why don't they release them?
wrestler50000 3 years ago 2
"you are a fucking idiot"
I hope you have the hability to explain why
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
He won't even know what hability means.... be gentle to him! He is still a sheep.
I, of course... I knew what it meant (as I look in a dictionary)
;-)
wrestler50000 3 years ago
I knew people on the second plane.
macflinn 3 years ago
Oh, that's an old one. Provide names then.
But even though, there's no way you can prove that. Or is it?
RasgaSaias 3 years ago 5
actually, I did. They were former northeastern university hockey players. Fuck you, you insensitive bastard.
macflinn 2 years ago
me too... the hijackers LOL
MrKingElvis 2 years ago
No big deal here. Those were the two easiest images/shots to insert a plane.
Try one of the other shots where we see a plane enter the building.
Dare you.
FreqBand 3 years ago
Yes, the LIVE 9/11 plane videos were intentionally composed in just such a way as to make them possible to do in REAL TIME. That's the point.
I will accept your challenge and recreate ghostplane in my theory of the the non-live 9/11 airplane videos.
-Ace Baker
CollinAlexander 3 years ago
Do you really believe that's hard to fake a plane in a none live scenario? Are you kidding?
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
Ì think your dare has proven very fruitful )
skyarcher 3 years ago
Great Vid. But the Only thing with this video that bothers me is that the two planes do not look completely identical with each other, considering the shapes on the two planes, and the way they are flying.
illuminNOTi 3 years ago
Black, and your evidence is what?
SnoopySuited 3 years ago
look it up
theblackmanOyeah 3 years ago
No, I'm not doing your research for you. And I doubt googling 'star wars' or 'molecular dissociation' is going to bring up anything that will detail a 9/11 coverup.
SnoopySuited 3 years ago
then you shall remain a lazy idiot. star wars program, copy paste if its that tough look through 1 link, if its really nothing, you will have wasted maybe 10 seconds of your life. its not up to me but why ask then in the first place?
theblackmanOyeah 3 years ago
Black, you're not willing to show citations for your arguments and I'm the lazy one? OR maybe you realize that your argument proves that your intelligence is lacking.
I did your little experiment though. Googled "Star Wars" and hit -I'm feeling lucky-. You convinced me! George Lucas is part of the conspiracy!
SnoopySuited 3 years ago
"Dum dum dum DUMB"
You're still around this video Snoopy?
LMAO! Get a god damn life!!!!
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
Rasga,
It's: Dum Dum Dum Dum DUMB. From Southpark.
And spending five minutes a day proving people wrong who try to promote fanties as fact, doesn't really take up too much of my life. Thanks for your concern though.
SnoopySuited 3 years ago
Good demo, whats your opinion on whether the reported delayed feed of 15-20 seconds would have been time enough to sub in these edited reels?
Could you check out this guys handling of it and give him some needed advice:
watch?v=hWhQfwph7-M
chilled99 3 years ago
edit: *not noticing it*
fuegoyo 3 years ago
Lets say for a moment that these theories were true. How in the world would someone manage to put the ammounts of explosives in the towers, without anybody working in thos buildings, noticing it??
fuegoyo 3 years ago
I'd say the entire floor of "Batteries" for Marsh & McClendon might have something to do with it.
I'd say Fuji Bank's computer room has something to do with it.
I'd say the "artists" who took over floor 91 of WTC1 for months has something to do with it.
I'd say the "fireproofing upgrade" that took place in both towers has something to do with it.
How's that?
CollinAlexander 3 years ago
Ok.. I dunno about those. But what is strange is that the different clips of the second planehit, show the plane hit the second tower with different angles. On one clip the plane is 90 degrees, on another it is just bearly skewed...
hmmm...
I dunno man
fuegoyo 3 years ago
Actually, I don't think that's right. The different apparent angles of the plane flight appear to be correct, as far as I can tell. The angle of the plane would obviously be very different, depending on viewing position.
The plane flight would be created once, in a 3D environment like Lightwave. It could then be rendered from any virtual camera position, matching the real camera position in the underlying shot.
Of course, mistakes on angle could be made, but I doubt it.
CollinAlexander 3 years ago
Sure but this clip shows different angels: watch?v=W_aPZDqzu8s
illuminNOTi 3 years ago
So how do you explain the countless other video footage of the second plane hit!?! All fakes? Are you out of your mind!?! It was a tragedy, yes, conspiracy, no! Get over it and move on!!!!
daveyc24 3 years ago
Have you even looked at the facts davey, like honestly looked at the facts. Lol anyone who says its not a conspiracy is either a) ignorant b) too dumbed down by soceity c)both. go watch fox news they will tell you the truth alright.
madmercenary 3 years ago
Move on!? And them what? Expect another "terrorist" attack and move on again? What are you? Some lab mouse?
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
Yah because the planes that crashed in three other sites wer just enormous birds with people inside. And so were these, except the people in the fake ones had fake cell phones along with imaginary family member that they called and put on imagination tv.
StuftAnimalLove 3 years ago
i like this video.
people need to start opening their eyes.
chibangin007 3 years ago
If more people watched this with an open mind and not a biased, denial laden attitude, they should see the truth.
ZZUnderground 3 years ago
911 secrets got killed off the same as Tesla. Two of the best cover jobs in history. Just keep them alive in the "Alternate History Books". Thanks for showing us 9/11/01, a date that will live in alternate history infamy. Fox lies and will never tell the truth.
teslaandlyne 3 years ago
Fived and faved!
PollenB 3 years ago 2
You no planers realize that even the rest of the 9/11 truth movement laughs at you right?
SnoopySuited 3 years ago
Oh, I remember you! You're everywhere on youtube spreading your useless propaganda :)
How are you? Wasn't you the one who saw the plane hitting the pentagon? You realize that even the rest of the 9/11 truth movement laughs at you, right? :)
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
The 9/11 truth movement laughing at me doesn't really make me feel bad.
SnoopySuited 3 years ago
Of course not. They're in fact (willing or not) helping you to cover up the tv fakery, that's why :)
And by the way, they, laughing at us, doesn't makes us feel bad ether ;)
Case solved?
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
'Cover up tv fakery'? There's nothing to cover up. It wasn't fake. The videos are real. There is no proof that they aren't real. Just silly wild imaginations from people who smoke too much weed.
SnoopySuited 3 years ago
But of course there's nothing to cover up. That's why you keep spamming every single well based video about fake planes and tv fakery with your attempts to insult, ridicule and confuse all and every argument presented :)
And talking about weed. You're the one seeing things here. Remember you seeing the plane hitting the pentagon? ;)
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
'Well Based' Ha! Can you show me one video expert who can support your idea that the videos are faked. You have a video expert saved on your favorites that disagrees with what you say. The truth movement is over. Give over it and get on with your life.
SnoopySuited 3 years ago
You all have the same speech! It's hilarious! Do you have secret meetings where you practice all this deception tactics? Or do you just share the best by e-mail? And are you checking my list of favorites too? Oh dear, I hope I have nothing that may compromise my credibility :)
And yes, I added the video from mister Wieck and mister Steve for when I need something to laugh about. I have other comic videos as you might already know ;)
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
And if you sir want to talk about experts supporting our cause I might present you a very well known scientist who would never agree with what's seen on each video showing the plane hitting the south wall of the second tower.
It's Sir Isaac Newton. You might heard about him. He even made physic laws which deny the possibility that what we see on these videos could be real. He's a real pain in lier's asses.
We've got to trust the experts, right? :)
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
Snoopy,
Hard at work again I see. While your here, please tell everyone about your personal account of seeing Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.
muzicmaker2001 3 years ago
What law did the planes break exactly? I here CTS talk about broken laws of physics, but then never explain them (accurately). Why don't you do me the favor of explaining what law has been broken.
And yes, the Wright Baker debate is laughable. Watching an expert show a novice why his ideas are far fetched is entertaining.
Finally, why would I go into my account of the pentagon again. You don't trust eyewitness testimony when it proves you dumb.
SnoopySuited 3 years ago
"Finally, why would I go into my account of the pentagon again."
Because, I need a good a laugh....
youtube*com/watch?v=aMD2THUb87s
muzicmaker2001 3 years ago
Muzic, if you want a good laugh review all your posts and theories. We're not changing the subject to the pentagon. (I'll prove you wrong about that later). First you need to find a video/audio expert to prove your WTC claims.
SnoopySuited 3 years ago
I won't spend my precious time with you :)
Have fun with your useless efforts. But keep in mind they're useless.
Watch this is you really want to know about laws of physics broken that day: watch?v=xaSbd6qgaps
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
Bye Rasga, too bad you are affraid to prove your point, or listen to evidence that proves your points wrong.
Your latest video, again, proves nothing. How does that video prove one way or another that something odd happened on 9/11
SnoopySuited 3 years ago
AHAHAHAH you're a funny guy! Keep doing your best. Never give up! Who knows if someone would take you serious :)
RasgaSaias 3 years ago
Bye Rasga.
SnoopySuited 3 years ago