Freemasons, Shriners, Oddfellows, all the the same.

[TronaldDump420]

this is another propaganda clip

google freemasonry bcy they have a search engine and you can type in illuminati knights templar albert pike nwo degrees masonic clubs all that shit and they supply a lot of info with references

[sanstache1]

this song kicks ass

[GSRJosh33]

Albert Pike who wrote some of the Masonic degrees claims Lucifer is the true light bearer.

[robert3302]

Nice pictures of the insignia and regalia. Thank you for that. As for the not so subtle imputations: They are somewhat similar organizations with somewhat similar goals, specifically to bring together a group of guys and wives for fun, fellowship and to return some good to the community. I have never seen any credible evidence to the contrary. How people keep buying into these sinister "secret society" conspiracy theories is beyond me. Enjoy your fantasy.

[MasonicEyes]

@robert3302 I haven't found any evidence either, I collect masonic antiques, and books, this video isnt implying very much. Besides them all having the same symbols.

[robert3302]

@MasonicEyes Then I misconstrued your intentions. My apologies. Nice collection.

[ceknight01105]

About windows. When most meetings are at night, why have windows? We OddFellows are usually out helping people in the daytime.

Meetings are mainly to talk about what you are doing and which project to help others we will be involving in next.

Also to honor the achievements of folks.

Letters are not so much secretive as they are a short hand.

Such as NG for Noble Grand, the presiding officer in and Oddfellows lodge.

PG is a Past Grand, one who has been a Noble Grand for a year or a term.

Etc.

[ceknight01105]

Yes, the three Orders mentioned are quite different indeed.

Hardly anything is the same.

The Odd Fellows and the Masons have somewhat of a similar arrangement of chairs and stations around the hall, probably more a function of renting your hall space before you built one more than anything else.

The Grange has a central alter but almost all the stations are in different positions.

What is a Forget It Not books, it is not anything us Odd Fellows know about.

Oddfellows "secrets" are not such now.

[MasonicEyes]

@ceknight01105 I forget it not book is a tiny tiny little book, which is the entire ceremony or some sort of ceremony but its writtin like this FDOTDOF its about 30 pages or so.

First degree of the degree of friendship or something, FDOTDOF the entire book is wrote like that, thus it must be some sort of secret. I also have the "history and manual" of oddfellows.

I just collect masonic antiques.

[ceknight01105]

At one time the Grange, and the Oddfellows, had things they were doing to help people that if they did not keep their meetings secret the opponents of these changes for the good would find out their next move and counter it. This was especially true with the Grangers and their fights against the Rail Road Monopolies.

Having said that, most lodges are NOT into making money and hoarding it, they are into helping people live better lives. I know of nothing secretive on Oddfellow application forms

[ceknight01105]

It is true that all workers used aprons at one time or another. And I would not doubt if those aprons had some way of identifying what level of expertise that person's apron was, hence the tools inside.

I became an Oddfellow for the same reason I became a Granger. Both orders put God and then your country first. The Order is NOT above the law and the allegiance is to God first, then your country, then your family and somewhere after that you place the Odd Fellows Lodge and Order.

[niunderscoreck]

I guess I need to reply.

Masons, carpenters, bakers, printers, certain painters, change keepers, bus drivers when they had to make change, and such all wore aprons. You put your tools in them, the nails, the coins, etc. Hence aprons came to become symbols of a person who had a trade and some skill and pride in his work.

So the Grange, and Oddfellows, and Masons and such wore aprons atone time or another as a symbol of recognition that used to be understood world-wide.

Have run out of space.

[niceguyinpenn]

Oh I never meant to imply that there were no secrets at all only I have never learned of one that was harmful in any way to any person. 

[MasonicEyes]

@niceguyinpenn I have not found anything harmful in the odd fellows, I have found harmful secrets in freemasonry, first hand, not off the Internet.

[Hillsillverr]

First we r going to ban religion, then we r going to cut off all the heads of monarchy...

[accursedheretic]

@Hillsillverr

Yes, finally a plan I can tolerate.

[niceguyinpenn]

ODD Fellows like most such lodges have certain secret ritual and traditions. I have never heard a secret that would be harmful to any human being. I have never witnessed anything remotely disturbing. In no way is there anything "Satanic" nor would any of the members of my lodge take part if there was. Indeed all of us in my lodge are Christians we would in mass resign should we be asked to deny our faith. I am a 5th generation ODD Fellow.

[MasonicEyes]

@niceguyinpenn I have not found in all my research, any conspiracy against Freemasons, or odd fellows.

I have heard some rather weird local stories, but nothing that people claim.

I cannot find a shred of proof that Freemasons or any other organization is involved with some world wide conspiracy.

[accursedheretic]

@MasonicEyes

Maybe you should study the mystery schools more closely. Los Allumbrados has done more than any Freemasonic or Fellow Order could fathom. The worldwide conspiracy is debt-money at interest to private banks all over the world. It officially became government procedure in 1694 to conspire with bankers to benefit the wealthy and further impoverish the poor. It has only grown since to cover the majority of the entire world. No nation spends its money into existence, they borrow it.

[davidjpringle]

@accursedheretic I AGREE ABOUT DEBT AND SLAVERY BUT THE ODD FELLOWS ARE NOT BEHIND THAT, NOPE SORRY YOUR WRONG!

[accursedheretic]

@davidjpringle

I realize the Fellows have a minor role in such things, if at all. They are still one of the many mystery schools who choose to horde knowledge and money and use their connections to further themselves in business. I see no pride in that. I see no honor in that. I see a group of religious men who don't care about the people like they claim to, just like every other Order. They just like to advance themselves and their "brothers," that is it. I don't like capitalists in general.

[accursedheretic]

@MasonicEyes

And also if you've never heard of the Italian P2 Lodge, you'll see how the Knights of Malta use the Lodges of Masonry to do their bidding. The Jesuit Order has long run the show from behind the scenes, using many different stooges to embrace the limelight and public scrutiny. The Knights of Malta can be found EVERYWHERE. They own the banks, they own the intelligence agencies, not many people will tell you the Rothschilds have been Knights of Malta and pawns for hundreds of years.

[maugustyniak]

@niceguyinpenn Why is it all secret and why in hell do you have to wear aprons, I mean, is that a big homosexual secret orgy?

[niceguyinpenn]

@maugustyniak Most fraternal organizations have certain regalia, uniforms etc. Frankly I have never heard any secret in any organization I belong to that is of the slightest harm to any person, state or religion, nor would continue to belong if they were. Your homophobic remark is laughable.

[MasonicEyes]

@niceguyinpenn What about the Cipher, on the back of the Certificate? Surely that must be secret. FD, OTDOF, pretty secretive to me. Obviously if someone found these books and documents, you could see how someone would assume something secretive is going on.

[AmericasGoingToHell]

There is an odd fellows lodge at the bottom of my street... with the all seeing eye inside a 5 point star on their sign out front... I hope your little club house gets burned down you satanic sons of bitches.

[MAc0ck]

Masonic and Oddfellows lodges are set up similarly but the oaths and agreements are very different. In an OddFellows lodge your agreements are to God first, your Country and Family and then way down on the list some where is the Lodge.

And in an Oddfellows lodge you are under NO obligation to protect a brother if he breaks the law, we will not stand for such. And it is a reason, if it is a major offense, for being thrown out of the order.

Oddfellows symbols speak of nothing evil but the bible

[ODDFELLOWS67]

actually, the ODD FELLOWS is considerred a secret society, but we are not, we are a society of secrets. im a mason and an odd fellow.

[megadeth2thenwo]

I really could care less what these people DO... As long as my rights are held in place and I am left alone to life my life how I see ffit.. whatever. the right to bear arms.. and use them against anyone trying to take my rights will be inforced.

[OrigionalCapancool]

@megadeth2thenwo ese societies have performend coups, assasinations, you know the sahdy stuff they are probably the ones in the weird "plumbing" van outside my house from 9-5 weekly. all I am saying is that your rights are secure now, but what about in three months? what about in six? we never know. i hope that our rights stay safe.

[LouieBlakeSarmiento]

Odd Fellows is a different organization from freemasonry. Odd Fellowship is not a secret society but a fraternity. FLT

[ODDFELLOWS67]

actually, we are considerred a free secret society, but we arent, we are a society of secrets, i am a mason and an ODD FELLOW

[MasonicEyes]

@ODDFELLOWS67 So what is the Point of Freemasonry.

Besides Ancient Mysteries and things.

Is it a Study group ?

[MasonicEyes]

haha, if you seen the 33rd scottish degree book You would shit your pants.

I happen to own one.

[MasonicEyes]

Your username is awesome

[accursedheretic]

Thank you. I couldn't think of a better username to be honest. How did you ever manage to get your hands on a book like that? I would love to get in on that information. Any info you could lend me?

[MasonicEyes]

haha, My father is an Auctioneer, Most auctioneers are freemasons.

Freemasons beleive strongly in "sons following in fathers footsteps" So most masons estates get sent to auction, I've been collecting masonic things since I was 13.

I have not read the book, I plan to read 4 other books which im currently doing, just to have a simple idea, what the book is stating.

its about 1000 pages. with images, and maps, all kinds of things. the book starts at jesus time, up until now.

[MasonicEyes]

I will tell you, from the bit I have read, about the templar's. Their version of history does not conform to traditional history.

[accursedheretic]

Imagine that. Hmm. I wonder if there's any way you could somehow share this info with me?

[MasonicEyes]

I plan too, once I do more research, I will make video's and things.

[accursedheretic]

Any chance you could photo copy those books and make e-books out of them so people can download them. It would be great to get the actual copy up on the net so we people everywhere can know what they are taught. Then no one can dispute the book and say you took it out of context. It will be the reader's choice to draw a conclusion of the works.

[MasonicEyes]

I don't think the book will make it to a photocopy.

its 200 years old. Im just lucky its in full, and the covers are not falling off of it.

[accursedheretic]

you should all be burned alive you fuckin cowards.

[davidjpringle]

@accursedheretic "I should be burned alive"? you say this over the internet and then call me a coward?

[accursedheretic]

@davidjpringle

What's your phone number? Would that be more appropriate for you? Or better yet, what's your address?

[davidjpringle]

@accursedheretic 394 S MAIN ST PLEASANT GAP PA 16823 JUST BE FOR WARNED A 100 LB GERMAN SHEPHERD ANSWERS THE DOOR 1ST USUALLY AND IF YOUR THAT BAD YOU SHOULD KNOW I'M ARMED.

[accursedheretic]

@davidjpringle

Dogs don't bother me. I would hope that you're armed. To not be would be foolish. Thanks for the address. A little far from MN. But even if it were closer, I don't really give a shit. It wouldn't be worth the time or effort, plus it's not like there would be a resolution to our argument. Still, it's pretty funny you posted your addy. Why don't you fellows do something constructive to benefit the masses? Why worry about personal income when it's all debt anyways? We need our own $.

[davidjpringle]

No we are not the same although we have similarities Noble Grand 153 of Centre lodge in pa usa david pringle

[niceguyinpenn]

@davidjpringle Glad to see a brother Pennsylvania Odd Fellow. Hope things are good in Bellefonte.

[oddfellow67]

odd fellows or masons book? if you have the 33rd degree, how did you get it. in the odd fellows there are only 3 degrees , with respect, rebekah degree, which makes four, but with the masons, the higher you go, the more you learn. which are you really interested in the masons or the odd fellows.i do not mean any disrespect, an enlightenment would serve your purpose im sure, and yes, us ODD FELLOWS are very secretive about things, certain things, but i can give you direction if you want to join.

[oddfellow67]

what makes you think we dont do good works "inside" the lodge?

[MasonicEyes]

I collect masonic things, have for years.

But I personally think the Odd fellows are way more secretive.

Never said you didn't do good things. Maybe your just not high enough of a degree to know what you are doing.

Im not a conspiracy theorist like most videos, this video is just what I have found on my own.

[MasonicEyes]

And Another thing, Why do masons say there is only 3 degree's, I have a 33rd degree book.

History of freemasonry and concordant orders. It has the 33rd degree mark with the 2 headed eagle. All thee authors are mostly 33rd degree's.

Masons I talk too, say there are no 33rd degree.

[MasonicEyes]

In your forget it not book, what does page 60-A mean?.

[oddfellow67]

ps. why not add the skeleton in the closet and ask why we dont have windows on the temple. (everyone has skeletons in the closet and nobody lives there.)

[MasonicEyes]

You don't have windows because good works are done in sunlight and You don't like sunlight.

[oddfellow67]

only 21 views when i saw it, shame. therre are "alot of secrets" here though im sure none recognizes them. odd fellows and masons and shriners do have a lot in common. lol. we all believe in a god! bo fi flt

[MasonicEyes]

FD, OTDOF?