I'm a light tri-racial mix who is non-white until ostentatiously black women see me with a decent looking brother next to me-then I automatically become that white b****. I loved this film. It's so true! There is a real double standard-sisters can say whatever horrible things they want about black men and other and are applauded, but it anyone says anything back, especially black men, they are the most horrible people on earth. Sometimes we need to face pain to get gain.
I THINK BLACK MEN AND WOMAN STRUGGLE WITH POWER IN THERE RELATIONSHIP, JOB, ETC THIS FILM JUST OPEN UP MEN AND WOMAN EYES ABOUT THE TRUTH AND SOME PEOPLE CANT HANDLE WHAT REALITY HAS TO OFFER RATHER ITS GOOD OR BAD BUT THE TRUTH IS ITS CALLED LIFE .
This should be a wake up call to all women of color. I have several black men as friends and they do not want to date black women because of their attitudes. I didn't understand it until I watched this movie with my black man and he helped to break it down to me.
This should be a wake up call to all women of color. I have several black men as friends and they do not want to date black women because of their attitudes. I didn't understand it until I watched this movie with my black man and he helped to break it down to me. I have always dated black intelligent men...but that's what I attract.
I'm a black woman 22. My father wasnt in my life. Not get me wrong out effects me everyday but I'm not angry all the time of aggressive. I don't have any kids. I don't have a bunch of girlfriends cause females or messy. I just want a nice guy. who I think I could complement. Not everyone black women is bitter.
Then BW look down on certain types of guys unless they goin upside their heads or treating bad bcuz it's the only thing a lot of them respect. As u can see in the trailer all the neck snappin and attitude is jus how a lot of BW act and that shit is not cute @ all. I won't generalize all BW but a lot of y'all act that way. And like I said sum ruin themselves by puttin themselves thru the bs of dealin with POS ass men and sum are grew up with parents that are like that. A lot of how ppl act depen
Bottom line is a lot of women ruin themselves thinkin that they can change certain already knowing that their dealin with bad men. Especially wen it comes to BW dealin with all the wrong types of BM so wat happens after that is they ruin it for themselves (turn into bad apples) bcuz they develop the attitude and etc. Wat happens next is whoever they deal with next they bring all of that baggage into the future relationships, and wats really bad about it is a lot of these women have kids with th
@ 0:57 there's plenty of good black men out there...you fukkas keep runnin ya mouth and chasin us away. the Bible says you are a help mate. you DONT RUN THE SHOW...IT AINT CUTE!!
I saw the film. It may have been a little over the top in portraying the angry black woman behavior but overall it was on point, and many of the reasons they outlined were true. BW are just mad and in denial about their faults. A lot of BW act like this and think men are just supposed to take it. I don't blame them for not going for it. We need to own up to our part in our issues. It's not all men's fault.
Its funny how folks have such strong opinion about the film when they obviously haven't seen it. If they did they'd know that the black man in the film actually does not turn his back on "his race." The white woman was just one of his dating choices. He ends up with and is marrying another black woman: one who treats him with the respect and kindness he thinks he deserves. So, yes, this film shows positive black women also like its claimed here that Tyler Perry does with the men. No difference.
I'd bet the majority of complainers have no problem (but of course will say they do) with man-bashing films. Folks like Tyler Perry and Terry McMillan have made HUNDREDS of MILLIONS producing films doing the EXACT same thing, but from the female view.
Not a peep is said.
Funny how most of these folks support the plethora of Waiting to Exhale type films with their money, yet have issue with ONE film from men's view.
An obvious bias. They can dish it out but can't take it.
the black race is over!!!! black men hate black women. there no hiding it, there's no denying it, because now the world sees it and is manipulating it!
you ever notice that it's always the black men and women bickering amongst one another while non-blacks sit back and laugh and make judgments about our stupidity. and God forbid we try and date a non black, that one act gets criticized and scrutinized to no end.
Its not a matter of dividing the races, this movie was great, but I think it should be the diary of a tired man. Not black, not white, not yellow or red or blue!!! We are all human! Thats the key, and keep God in it!!!
I think all races can relate to this in some way....I am white and I have learned alot. This movie is basically about how women's relationships with men from an early age is reflected in their currently relationships. Black women are targeted more because they are seen as being "aggressive" and "assertive" while other races are seen as "submissive." Now this is not true...we can not put everyone in one box. Past experiences reflect our current behavior.
I think all races can relate to this in some way....I am white and I have learned alot. This movie is basically about how women's relationships with men from an early age is reflected in their currently relationships. Black women are targeted more because they are seen as being "aggressive" and "assertive" while other races are seen as "submissive." Now this is not true...we can not put everyone in one box. Past experiences reflect our current behavior.
I think all races can relate to this in some way....I am white and I have learned alot. This movie is basically about how women's relationships with men from an early age is reflected in their currently relationships. Black women are targeted more because they are seen as being "aggressive" and "assertive" while other races are seen as "submissive." Now this is not true...we can not put everyone in one box.
OMG! I just watched this movie on DVD not knowing anything about the contraversy it has from the internet clip, and was I surprised to hear some of the things the Black Women said in this movie. The reason being that, the black men I have dated have all said that black women have attitudes or at least all that they know. But when I asked them,"Well did you ever ask them why", their answer was always that they could not restrain themselves from the attact long enough to ask.
OMG! I just watched this movie on DVD not knowing anything about the contraversy it has from the internet clip, and was I surprised to hear some of the things the Black Women said in this movie. The reason being that, the black men I have dated have all said that black women have attitudes or at least all that they know. But when I asked them,"Well did you ever ask them why", their answer was always that they could not restrain themselves from the attact long enough to ask.
I watched this and I was sooooo angry. OMG! I'm a AA Teenage girl I just think everything is wrong about this shit. How come whenever people make these kinds of movies they make us and themselves look dumb. They were asking all the wrong questions. What do Black Women?....How do Black Women? Ummm not all black women are the same, kay. Were not all mad and bitter and will call you out for dating a white girl and will do stuff just to make you mad.
@NoirFilleChante It doesn't divide black people. If you actually watch the movie it defends black people. I love black women but even I've had my experience of most of them (not all mind you) calling me a sell out and white, just because I don't have a criminal background or I'm intelligent. Nothing wrong with having a strong black woman. But there's a difference between being strong and being a bitch.
@Linklex7 How can you say this doesn't divide black people; when it's clearly portraying black women as bitter, miserable bitches; and it's praising the black man for abandoning his own for a white women. And you try to make it seem like you have no problem with black women, but you obviously do if you think they're bitches. I could devote a whole movie to the failures of black men - but that's so pointless, because I love myself and I love my people.
@NoirFilleChante I agree with this except for him dating a white woman. I don't believe people should not date some people because of their race. I love all colors of the rainbiow <3
@NoirFilleChante You obviously didn't pay attention. The Tired man is divorced, hence his alimony pymt. Which means, she divorced him. No man volunteers to pay his ex wife. So she abandoned him. "I could devote a whole movie to the failures of black men - but that's so pointless, because I love myself and I love my people."
Don't worry, Oprah and the ABC Why Black Women are single beat you to the punch.
@Superseadragon ...He was tired, he more than likely had no problem paying what he is paying to get rid of her ass. A man will pay to get some peace. You women of color need to take notes.
@NoirFilleChante This movie only portrays women as "bitter, miserable bitches" the same way that some movies (i.e. a few Tyler Perry movies) will portray a dark brother as abusive, useless and diabolical. If anything, this movie seems like its trying to even the score by turning the tables on those constantly perpetuating the black male stereotype.
@interpolluter29 I would disagree. Because even in Tyler Perry movies, he always turns around and portrays the model for a good black man. Besides, I could argue that Tyler Perry movies portrays black women as dramatic, loud, bitches (ie Angela from WDIGM), however I think Perry simply highlights the good AND the bad of black PEOPLE. Not just black men or black women.
@interpolluter29 Furthermore. What irritates me about movies like this is it creates division WITHIN OUR OWN RACE. It's one thing if a white man had made this movie, but to have a BLACK man produce a movie putting down his OWN kind. Like, really...black people get enough shit in this world as it is? Why do we need bullshit like this that just enforces the divide between us? I think that black people need to stop fighting over petty stuff, and stand TOGETHER.
@NoirFilleChante Mmm I watched it and I think that the writer/director genuinely wants a black woman. I think he's just frustrated and trying to communicate why he has a hard time dealing with black women. Of course all BW aren't like the main chick in this film, but I do know of that type.
@Lozie82 Well, I think it goes both ways. Finding a "good black man" isn't necessarily an easy task either. Especially, when half of these potentials exclusively date any woman BUT their own. I swear, in 100 years, their won't be a "black" race anymore.
@interpolluter29 Because in my opinion...BW attacking BM, and BM attacking BW achieves NOTHING. And it makes our race look stupid. I mean come on. How often do you hear hispanic/asian/white men say "Oh...I date any type of women except my own"
Yea...probably not as often as you hear black men say that -.-
this is one of the best movies i seen in a long time mad crazy every woman should watch it and think about the shit they do..........don't tell me girl that, i chris brown a chick I mean sing stupid oh lord
Jesus fucking Christ... I had to check out this trailer just to see what this movie's about. It seems like whenever black people get a turn at the mic, all they're really capable of is COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN! Why can't African-Americans simply stop adhering to their silly little culture of underachievement, minority elitism, and laziness, and actually do something about it? I doubt they'll raise their kids to be any different, and it turns out being an endless cycle of stupidity.
@otnomnoraa Fuck you cuz not every black person complains about this shit. You no nothing about anything, so stop assuming shit. Stop thinking everyones the same. I hate this movie cuz it makes us look stupid but I can't really blame you if you think that too but on the other hand, you probably have a brain soooo why must others influence your way of thinking about things. Just because u see some black ppl acting stupid doesn't mean were all that way.
@otnomnoraa Your ignorant but that doesn't mean that I think all of whatever your race is, is ignorant. But you know wats sad. If I non-white person is ignorant they are seen as low class and dumb and can't do anything with their life. But if a white person is ignorant they are senators, lawyers, Presidents and people in power and thats not becuz white ppl just ARE naturally that way it's becuz some SOME of u long time ago just decided to hate and hate hard and hate can hurt a person.
@otnomnoraa Whatever race you are. It hurts to be hated. And thats what you might not understand. Hate. And hate against an entire group of people becuz there different. Stop! Stop before what you say can really scar and hurt someone. I mean, if your a human with a heart and not like a anatomical heart like a hearty heart, you'd care if you hurt someone you never got to know. Calm down and step awayyyy from the Hateraid!
there was a story about a woman on oprah that spent $300,000 on a shopping spree. her husband works at UPS. she kept it a secret for a very, very, very long time. let me tell you how cold most of you women are. when the show was almost over, the women on the show bullied the man to apologize to her for intimidation....apparently, he was the reason why she couldn't tell him the truth, and that was wrong. i will say it again women, before you tell your man to be right, you need to be right.
I think this will be a very interesting movie. People will assume that your are directing this towards all black women which however I'm sure is not the case. Individuals should understand that all black women are not angry and all black men are not tired but you know how people are so keep entertaining to the fullest! 2 Thumbs up!
I think this will be a very interesting movie. People will assume that your are directing it at all black women which however I'm sure is not the case. Individuals should understand that all black women are not angry and all black men are not tired but you know how people are so keep entertaining them to the fullest! 2 Thumbs up!
Peace, watched this movie, and found it to be true. A must watch for every Black/African American woman (which I am). The male "Waiting To Exhale"). I know the real women the female character play. True Story.
they are your enemies huh, they are stealing your men". I thought, who the hell does this guy think he is, y should a non blk wmn be my enemy? what does a blk man and a non-blk wmn's union have to do with my life? my family? my success? he really wanted those wmn to fight over him. who is he? what's his worth? i turned that shit off so quick.....nothing but the blame game.. black ppl wake up!
I saw this on tv last night, the title intrigued me. At first, i was excited, I thought this guy is making some good points. He portrayed the typical angry blk wmn correct. Then, about 15-20 min in the movie, he is interviewing a sista with a natural and two non-blk wmn, not white though. He says to the blk wmn about the 2 other wmn, who were her friends..
They should have interviewed a wider selection of Black dudes. Most of the guys they're talking to look like they are rifraff who hangs on the corner all day.
@PatsBooks what is rif raf??? and who uses that term in america?? are you a foreigner?? cus i only see foreigners use that term....and look beyond exteriors .why is it every black guy is riff raf to you and every white or asian guy is a model citizen?? i wonder why... some of these guy may be in college just cus a dude is . kinda street smart dont mean hes rif raf.. ive seen many white guys who are rif raf but i bet you think their perfect...
yeah right LOL!!! they spoke to all kinds of men i know the guy that put this movie together. they talked to men PERIOD! some worked in construction some worked on wall street and some were in a barber shop....thats why you have issues you judge a book by its cover. the point of the movie was to talk to men and women regardless of what they do but apparently you either missed the point or never seen the movie.
Just saw this movie. loved it. i think it tells both perspective. What I get from the movie is the black family is continin to destroyin itself either way, no matter who fault it is. black men goin to other races of women. 42% of bw women never married. Bm makin babies not takin care of them. Bw making poor choices in men and havin babies
EXACTLY! if you live in the ally why do you expect prince charming? most women like the tough thugged out type and get surprised when he dont be around....its all on you.
this is a stupid arguement...yes man is the head but woman is the neck so without us you can't blasted turn...so shut up with the whole man is head and women should submit...certain things called for certain times...we not in biblical days no more
We sure aren't in "Biblical days anymore" - and when did you not know that it is the head that sends the signal down for the neck to turn it? Think,,, the head controls all body functions - even a fart.
You can't expect to make Mz Oluchia understand a dang thing. On her page she says... "am a true Trini girl.... (yeah right) ... i am beautifully and wonderfully made by God ...love him. I am 19,"
Nuff said!
Mz is the new generation of lost Black female taught by feminist minded brickheads who want nothing but pure social disaster. She is doing what the system is telling her to do, nothing more.
@oluchia this is not a contest to say who is what neck,tail ,head....whatever women always think they know what its like being a man. but have never been a man before or walked in his shoes and vica versa men havent ever been women ...but yet we get women idealism shoved down our throats its a one sided argument this movie is just a window into how we feel about yall we dont hate you just tired of not being heard .
This is a must see movie/documentary,tells the story of what alot of good black men go through with black women who suffer with angry black woman syndrome.
if black men apply themselves more- they would have less problems
thing is its either black women or non black women with black men
they dont realize that upon reaching success they can stay with black women- every other race of men sticks to his women and goes back to the community whenever he gets it big- everyone is hit by the "white women are precious" garbage but how come mostly black men buy it? not even wm falling for it that much...its embarrassing
I agree black men do need to apply themselves more,more black women are attending and graduating from college than black men. I do believe black men not having a positive role model in the home,and this hip hop culture has ruined black men. Little black girls have seen for the past couple of generations mother working hard to bring home the bacon and go to school. The destruction of black family is a major cause. But black women need to let go of some of the attitude to draw a good black man
and then yall use the excuse that its black women's attitude- thats bullshit! cause a lot of bw are just fine....a lot of bw are educated and successful and sweet and dont want anything but a brother- yet how come yall still ignore her? that means the problem lies mostly in black men- they have a problem with being black altogether that they will find any measly fault in a great bw but will settle for any trash of another color...you guys do it for show-thing is your being laughed at not with
You make some good points openmindedfemme,Im not anti-black woman,I'm dating a really good black jamaican woman,who is sweet as pie,and dont suffer from angry black woman syndrome, I don't like to see brothas overlook the sistas for white and asian women, This documentary doesnt try to over the tired brothas out there,but shine light on problems that good black men ecounter from controlling,rude,and angry black women that have excused this behavior for generations.
I have a co-worker she has been dating this tired brotha,he dont work,has a felony. This nice guy from IT approached her,not a bad looking guy,this guy brought her gifts,asked her out on dates. Well she said he was too nice of a guy and not thug enough,What im trying to say,is that Good guys are always around,but black women overlook them.
Maybe you have overlooked some good black men and didnt know it. Have you seen the movie/documentary? The movie doesnt deny there are alot of tired brothas out there,but there are alot of good black men that catch hell from rude black women suffering from angry black woman sydrome
then you need to ask what has destroyed the black family....
you need to ask why black girls are succeeding and not black boys
its easy to say -"someone making me do it' but everyone has a choice in every situation - may not always be good but blaming someone else for it - aint gonna cut it
We as black men could do a better job. The feminist liberation movement played a big part in the destruction/division of the both black and white families in America. In the bible who did Pharoah wont to destroy,the male? So you have lots of black successful women,but no man in the home.
well bad girls can be very sexy,but I'm not going to be trying to expect or try to transform her into a housewife. Look at all the rappers wives,lot of them are nothing like the video chicks. So you cant look for love in all the wrong places,your pretty interesting chick
the feminist movement has nothing to do with us...many bw arent feminists and even if they were that has nothing to do with a man running away...a man does not a run away- a boy runs...which is probably what most of yall are seeing how you never take accountability for anything
need to stop blaming black women, white men, feminists and see that it is you who make the choices and you who have to deal with the consequences cause you chose it
It was originally a white woman movement,but it played apart in dividing men and women,and gradually deteriorting the family,its no be secret. Im not trying to black everything on women,might seem that way. But both black men and women need to be accountable, you are a strong black woman
because real men dont need to put down another just to feel like a "real man"
its funny how black men like to control black women and call it submissiveness....remember when black men were the white man's bitch? he made you submissive as a motherfucker didnt he....did black men like that?
just because someone is physically more gifted it does not qualify them as stronger or better.....
men are not better than women...never have been - never will be
But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ," (1 Cor. 11:3). 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands. Mutual duties are named. The husband should love his wife as Christ loved the church (Eph 5:23), and the wife should submit to this loving husband as unto the Lord.
and i like how people counter that by saying "its natural"
if it was "natural" something brought on by nature then there would be no lesbians, gay men, bad mothers, bad fathers, feminist women as well as men....if these things were "natural" as the sexist bible and its "followers" aka hypocritical christians and over zealous black men like to put it - if these things were natural then there would be exactly two sexes and everything done would be second nature to each of us
So you dont believe in the scriptures of the role of the husband and wife in the bible,says the man is the head of the woman,and she is to be submissive to her husband,the husband is also to love his wife as himself. Now today's society and feminist dont believe in this scripture,these are the ones going around with butch haircuts
what im saying is the bible is a fabrication of other religions including egyptian religion....does god have anything to do with religion???? HELL NO!! so no im not a atheist i just know the difference between god and religion. an atheist doesnt believe in god.....god has NOTHING to do with religion....religion is man made. and used for social order and brainwashing. dont believe it? look at your politicians and crooked preachers like creflo dollar and TD fakes. they want that cash yo.
So you dont believe any of the bible to be true? Bible does mention to beware of wolves in sheep clothing, but inwardly their ravenous wolves,and that in the last days there would be many false prophets that would deceive many. I dont follow or believe in any of those crooks,not into main stream religion,but do believe the word of GOD
egyptian religion came way before the christian religion and the bible and they have all the same similarities. you must take into consideration who wrote the bible and who tampered with it. Constantine tampered with the bible. bottom line god has nothing to do with religion.... is some things true in the bible? maybe. is it easy to look at human nature and write a book based on the actions of humans that have never changed? yes. the word of god is not just in the bible. some is common sense.
Egyptians were Pagans,they worshiped many Gods which included the Sun God Ra, I believe in only one God,which is the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob. Any other God,you would be worshipping the fallen Angels from Heaven
and americans arent pagans? how many so called christians believe in the trinity or the idea that jesus IS GOD?. not to mention that other religions that pre date christianity that has a deity with a virgin birth ya da ya da ya da...the bottom line is people dont need religion because religion is poison it degrades some people and justifies what those men at the time liked and practiced like slavery, polygamy etc...the bible is not the only source for god either.
Yes,there is paganism wrapped up in the christian church,specially with celebrating of Christmas and Easter. Yeshua is not God,He is the Son of the One and only True God. The white man did twist the scriptures to justify enslaving black people,and he lied about Yeshua being black,and the ancient Egyptians.
god has NO partners thats religions right there by saying jesus is god's son. god had many "sons" in scripture. ask many historians and they will tell you that jesus was born in the area of present day iraq. you white people aint having that tho.
So do you believe in the book of Revelation: read Revelation 13 chapter,talks about the beast,the Antichrist,basically thats the new world order,also spoken in the book of Daniel
well the thing about revelations that people forget is that it was supposedly a dream. the new world order happened 300 years ago after the supposed "revolutionary war" happened.
most christians also believe that people really lived for 900 years like noah and methusulah. is revelations true to a tee? i dont think so because we have always been living in the "last days" think about it.....everyday could be your last day. everything dies but nobody but god knows when. when the trumpet blows and the your clock is punched its a done deal but all this 2012 mass death trash is bogus.
I see you dont believe any of the bible,So do you believe in the Koran? what you think about the environmental movement and New Age Movement? Do you believe in Aliens? 2012 was a prediction of the end made by Mayans. Bible states no man knows the day or hour when God will come back.
i didnt say i didnt believe in any of the bible i just know that some of it is based on stories and half truths there is no way we can believe all of what man says because man is full of error. again when you listen to the B.S. about 2012 and all that it sounds like Y2K...you remember all that? so just like you said if the bible says "no man knows the day or hour" why would we listen to some trash about the mayans? they are man right? they are not god.
like i said i take things out of a lot of different books and blend them together. the thing about people especially americans they dont know their own history. the mayan culture didnt die they just migrated to modern day mississippi...they stopped making calanders.....i dont know why but they did...but when you let man get a hold of something he will pervert it like they did the bible and anything you see on tv. nostradamus and movies are not real. movies are not a good place to find history.
Well dont ignore everything you see on TV,and the movies,it is propaganda to prepare you for whats to come. The new world order is real,The global world goverment is real,666 mark of the beast mention in bible is real, which will be a microchip in your hand United Nations and the Global warming Hoax,pay attention ,future police state is real,Y2K,propaganda fear tactic
key word...PROPAGANDA..the issue is not the message but who is putting the message out there..the same people that bring you ignorant B.E.T. (viacom) and other trashy businessman are who are bringing you the movies like Armageddon and 2012. the micro chip is already here bruh...check your pass port, credit cards etc..you cant put a chip in your hand because your body will reject it. its already been tried. 2012 is another fear tactic...if you believe that then why read the bible????
I agree BET is very ignorant TV,nothing to stimulate us as people,VIACOM took it I use to like watching shows Tavist Smiley. Look at the messages in those movies,like Will Smith in Enemy of The State,You know Movies,TV and the music industry are controlled by the illuminati,most people are decieved and brainwashed,and dont get the subliminal messages
yeah those movies are made for a reason but the thing is they have always been here. watch this documentaries called "the capitalist conspiracy" "zeitgeist" and "zeitgeist addendum" the capitlalist conspiracy is hella old and was made in the 60s so that goes to show you that the info was there but nobody paid attention. they are all on you tube also. it talks about the Illuminati, the CFR etc..i dont listen to people talking about jay Z is a mason and all that trash. i like truth with evidence.
I really believe he is,specially throwing up that masonic pyramid sign,he is in with the establishment,cant be that big in the music industry and not sale your sold to the devil. There all down with the Baphomet
when you research the masons you will find that someone like jay z can never be in that fraternity...his money is pennies to them. hes not popular anymore and no one is buying his stuff. you gotta remember we talking about a rapper thats all jay is....a rapper....the real ones are ones that control governments and money. jay doesnt control anything. rap music is not even a blip on the radar for them. they into bigger things. he sold his soul to corporate america not the illuminated ones.
well he can be a low degree Mason,look at his clothing line rocafella with all the masonic symbols,the pyramid sign he makes often in videos and in his concerts. He is not a high degree mason in politics like Bush and Kerry,But you know the illuminati influences the record industry and movies,to deceive the masses
you gotta remember jay z and all that clothing line stuff is not just jay z...its damon dash too. dash is who owns rocawear not jay z. they been doing that stuff way back in like 97' this isnt knew and they didnt have no dough back then like they do now. hes not a mason at all for the simple fact that blacks cannot be masons thats why a black man named prince hall created his own masonic thing. i would know my grandfather was a prince hall mason but its nothing like the free masons.
okay,so you saying there not masons,I guess they like pretending to be masons,and like promoting masonic symbols on their clothing line. So not a free mason,but a black Mason,Boule,Jesse Jackson and Dr. King. Albert Pike founder of Klan was a Mason,and your Fraternities and Sororites are very masonic,use similar initiations and rites. You have the Scottish Rite,The Knights of Templar,etc etc
they not pretending to be masons the media and other clowns have put that tag on them. you NEVER seen or heard jay z say he is with the masons are any kind of secret society..im telling like this..all that boule, mason bullshit is exactly what it is..bullshit. its not that serious those people have NO POWER.. the frats and sorr. are not masons they are greek frats. they're all kinds of secret societies but not all are "masons" albert pike wasnt the klan founder it was nathan bedford forrest.
Jay Z would never admit he was a mason,cause is a secret society,there is no proof he was initiated as a Mason,but he sure does act like one,look at his videos. Lots of Masonic symbols,specially Rihanna Yale skull and bones,Fraternity,similar masonic rituals,and rites. Well maybe I was wrong about Albert Pike,but he was a Klan and a Mason. All these secret societies are similar,whether you a freemason,prince hall,frat or sorer.
but you have to use common sense...is rhianna a part of skull and bones? is jay z a part of any of that stuff? jay z and other rocafella artist have been using that diamond sign for years. they are not similar they are not even in the same ball park. they are just secret societies just like when you were a kid and you had a boys only meeting and you didnt want girls knowing whats going on....just because its a secret doesnt mean its evil. crips and bloods are secret societies.
Im not saying Rhianna is part of the skulls and bones,but you know the music industry is controlled by the illumunati,artist today make more mention of the illumunati in their videos,and show more masonic symbols in their videos. I guess you dont relize how deep Jay Z is into the illuminati,guess you never seen video on tupac talking about the illuminati and other artist
like who? and like my professor says.."what evidence do you have to back that up" i know what you're talking about but the bad thing is you have no idea what you are talking about. so the music industry is controlled by the illuminati? so why do i not see any "masonic" symbols in country music videos? or rock videos? ima tell you like this? you guys are thinking a little too much..i dont think you know exactly what you are talking about. whats the point of having masonic symbols in your videos?
music and television,movie industry,news media,all controlled by the illuminati. thats why you have so much propaganda in the movies,to deceive and control the masses,why so many people today believing in the new age environment movement. Rock music has always had Satanic symbols and messages. The 2009 MTV awards simulating masonic rituals,look it up on you tube
its just like faith...its for those who cant think. if you get caught up in whats on TV then you deserve to get flim flammed. rock music had satanic symbols? like what? i suggest you do some research on rock music and the artist with those "satanic symbols" there is a such thing as shock rock like ozzy, slayer, megadeth etc...thats what they do to sell records..if they like that then so be it...how does that affect you or anyone else tho? MTV?? why are you even watching that?
Alot of these heavy metal rock musicians are into devil worship,and have sold their sold to the devil,watch an interview on youtube with Bob Dylan and Ed Bradley from 60 mins,Bob Dylan admits it sold his sold to the devil. I pay attention to the words coming from the musicians mouth,where alot of them have stated that demonic spirits take control over their bodies which allow them to perform. MTV doesnt effect me,but lots of young people watching
bob dylan is his own man and he didnt sell his soul because he did rock music...as a matter of fact dylan does folk music. what heavy metal musicians said they sold their souls to the devil??? and if they did i say one more time HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOU??
Well if you listen or read any lyrics in heavy metal rock music,its obvious these groups or single artist sold their sold to the devils,It doesnt effect me,but it does alot of people that follow them
i follow no man so if people like to get caught up thats on them. but a lot of people mis interpret what the lyrics are talking about. listen to Iron Maiden's song
"number of the beast"...the chorus says "666 the number of the beast" but it has nothing to do with worshiping the devil. lyrics are about as obvious as you watching the terminator or die hard....ITS NOT REAL you never heard the artist say that is what they do but they get into character. arnold is not killing anyone in real life.
So your saying its just entertaintment,no harm to make references to serving the devil and 666,and hold up devil horns,and sing songs like "Im on the highway to hell. So do you believe the Devil and his fallen Angels exist? Do you believe God cast him out of heaven?
i'll tell you what...the rock culture is a culture you dont understand unless you know about the music and the artist. when maiden is talking about 666 he is telling a story about when he woke up and saw some people making sacrifices and worshiping the devil and he says in the song that he needs to tell the lord what is going on...see if you dont understand the culture then you dont know much. the whole devil horns thing has nothing to do with the devil its the culture.
Alex crowley satanist was well known for holding up the devil horns which is the sign of baphomet,same as rock groups. I guess you see nothing satanic about heavy metal rock music and groups like Judas Priest,Black Sabbath,Ozzy Osborne; this is soley entertainment,kinda like Santa Clause,So What you think about witchcraft?
LOL!!!!! like i said if you dont know the culture then all i can say is research it because you sound like white people when they talk about so called "gangster rap" they dont know the culture so they assume. ozzy is a christian he even said so. judas priest is a group nothing more they wear leather and chains. sabbath is ozzy...or ronnie james dio...just like you got three 6 mafia you got sabbath. i dont believe in witches,warlocks, ghost, demons etc...none of that affects me. i believe in god.
Im 42 grew up on old school rap and hip hop,liked the old school gangsta rap NWA,Tupac,Ice Cube,Ice T, I'm not into todays rap and hip hop,gotten old same style,Money cars and Ho's,no creativity. I dont believe in praticing witchcraft,but the devil,witchcraft and voodo is real,look at people in Hait during rituals swallowing whole chickens,
i'll tell you like this..voo doo is not what you see on TV i'll just leave it at that...voo doo is a mix of Catholicism and african traditional religion.
i dont believe in the devil the way most people do. the devil is NOT a being with horns and a tail thats folklore. the devil is a metaphor for an evil side of all of us. all i can tell you is to listen to the lyrics and watch some interviews with some musicians. whats the difference between 2 pac making a song about killing people and ridin on people and AC DC saying im on a high way to hell? they both are artist telling a story whether its good or bad. learn the culture first.
Most Christians should know better that the devil is not red with a tail,horns and a pitch fork,but that he is a fallen angel from heaven named lucifer,Son of the Morning,Devil would have some to believe he is a fictional character to deceive them.
Well i didnt know since you dont believe in the Bible, I thought your God might be The Great Architect or Allah,or Some God of Wood or Stone,or a New Age God. The bible states in the last days people were going to depart from the faith and give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of Devils. I know you might think christianity is a white religion,but its not,it was spread through out Europe during Paul's time,The Isralites were all black,and very bright person. You male or female?
Allah is god its the same god in the bible. jesus said his name on the cross if you know a little about Arabic and Aramaic. i dont need faith to believe in god people need faith to believe in religion not god because god is in your face everyday. faith is a virtue for those who cant think.. i didnt say christianity was a white religion i said all religion is pointless....iraelites were all black? but what difference does it make? god doesnt care about skin color...im a grown man.
I'm a light tri-racial mix who is non-white until ostentatiously black women see me with a decent looking brother next to me-then I automatically become that white b****. I loved this film. It's so true! There is a real double standard-sisters can say whatever horrible things they want about black men and other and are applauded, but it anyone says anything back, especially black men, they are the most horrible people on earth. Sometimes we need to face pain to get gain.
gangstagriotfilmworx 2 days ago
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0:29
LISTEN TO THE OLDER GOD.
"Chuuch" = CIRCLE
waitingformusic 1 week ago
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waitingformusic 1 week ago
So many of us have symptoms of Post Traumatic SLAVE Syndrome
naz062 2 months ago
I THINK BLACK MEN AND WOMAN STRUGGLE WITH POWER IN THERE RELATIONSHIP, JOB, ETC THIS FILM JUST OPEN UP MEN AND WOMAN EYES ABOUT THE TRUTH AND SOME PEOPLE CANT HANDLE WHAT REALITY HAS TO OFFER RATHER ITS GOOD OR BAD BUT THE TRUTH IS ITS CALLED LIFE .
JuicyChina 2 months ago
how unrealistic.. just sterotyping BW even more than they are already steorotyped
scanderlous1234 3 months ago
This should be a wake up call to all women of color. I have several black men as friends and they do not want to date black women because of their attitudes. I didn't understand it until I watched this movie with my black man and he helped to break it down to me.
reeross906 5 months ago
This should be a wake up call to all women of color. I have several black men as friends and they do not want to date black women because of their attitudes. I didn't understand it until I watched this movie with my black man and he helped to break it down to me. I have always dated black intelligent men...but that's what I attract.
reeross906 5 months ago
wonder how much money it too to get shaft to voice over...
Sphyshious 5 months ago
GTFO
anigirl12 6 months ago
I'm a black woman 22. My father wasnt in my life. Not get me wrong out effects me everyday but I'm not angry all the time of aggressive. I don't have any kids. I don't have a bunch of girlfriends cause females or messy. I just want a nice guy. who I think I could complement. Not everyone black women is bitter.
Soklassic 8 months ago
Then BW look down on certain types of guys unless they goin upside their heads or treating bad bcuz it's the only thing a lot of them respect. As u can see in the trailer all the neck snappin and attitude is jus how a lot of BW act and that shit is not cute @ all. I won't generalize all BW but a lot of y'all act that way. And like I said sum ruin themselves by puttin themselves thru the bs of dealin with POS ass men and sum are grew up with parents that are like that. A lot of how ppl act depen
hollywood302 8 months ago
Bottom line is a lot of women ruin themselves thinkin that they can change certain already knowing that their dealin with bad men. Especially wen it comes to BW dealin with all the wrong types of BM so wat happens after that is they ruin it for themselves (turn into bad apples) bcuz they develop the attitude and etc. Wat happens next is whoever they deal with next they bring all of that baggage into the future relationships, and wats really bad about it is a lot of these women have kids with th
hollywood302 8 months ago
judging from the trailer this is really about african american people AFRICAN women are submissive to their husbands and act totally different
667863thesavedlinda 9 months ago
@ 0:57 there's plenty of good black men out there...you fukkas keep runnin ya mouth and chasin us away. the Bible says you are a help mate. you DONT RUN THE SHOW...IT AINT CUTE!!
morphillyous 10 months ago
Why did this movie choose an African guy and not a black american guy? No african guy would tolerate that disrespect.
athletictexasgirl 10 months ago 3
@athletictexasgirl He's from the Caribbean Islands
ddariusj88 9 months ago
I saw the film. It may have been a little over the top in portraying the angry black woman behavior but overall it was on point, and many of the reasons they outlined were true. BW are just mad and in denial about their faults. A lot of BW act like this and think men are just supposed to take it. I don't blame them for not going for it. We need to own up to our part in our issues. It's not all men's fault.
SlikRicc1 11 months ago 5
Its funny how folks have such strong opinion about the film when they obviously haven't seen it. If they did they'd know that the black man in the film actually does not turn his back on "his race." The white woman was just one of his dating choices. He ends up with and is marrying another black woman: one who treats him with the respect and kindness he thinks he deserves. So, yes, this film shows positive black women also like its claimed here that Tyler Perry does with the men. No difference.
30Roxanne 11 months ago 3
Wow! Truth hurts.
I'd bet the majority of complainers have no problem (but of course will say they do) with man-bashing films. Folks like Tyler Perry and Terry McMillan have made HUNDREDS of MILLIONS producing films doing the EXACT same thing, but from the female view.
Not a peep is said.
Funny how most of these folks support the plethora of Waiting to Exhale type films with their money, yet have issue with ONE film from men's view.
An obvious bias. They can dish it out but can't take it.
rayhend100 11 months ago 18
the black race is over!!!! black men hate black women. there no hiding it, there's no denying it, because now the world sees it and is manipulating it!
betterunited 11 months ago
you ever notice that it's always the black men and women bickering amongst one another while non-blacks sit back and laugh and make judgments about our stupidity. and God forbid we try and date a non black, that one act gets criticized and scrutinized to no end.
armywife2248 11 months ago
Its not a matter of dividing the races, this movie was great, but I think it should be the diary of a tired man. Not black, not white, not yellow or red or blue!!! We are all human! Thats the key, and keep God in it!!!
surf403 11 months ago
love u jimmy u are amazing
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aa1820 1 year ago
I think all races can relate to this in some way....I am white and I have learned alot. This movie is basically about how women's relationships with men from an early age is reflected in their currently relationships. Black women are targeted more because they are seen as being "aggressive" and "assertive" while other races are seen as "submissive." Now this is not true...we can not put everyone in one box. Past experiences reflect our current behavior.
angelosworld1 1 year ago
I think all races can relate to this in some way....I am white and I have learned alot. This movie is basically about how women's relationships with men from an early age is reflected in their currently relationships. Black women are targeted more because they are seen as being "aggressive" and "assertive" while other races are seen as "submissive." Now this is not true...we can not put everyone in one box. Past experiences reflect our current behavior.
angelosworld1 1 year ago
I think all races can relate to this in some way....I am white and I have learned alot. This movie is basically about how women's relationships with men from an early age is reflected in their currently relationships. Black women are targeted more because they are seen as being "aggressive" and "assertive" while other races are seen as "submissive." Now this is not true...we can not put everyone in one box.
angelosworld1 1 year ago
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OMG! I just watched this movie on DVD not knowing anything about the contraversy it has from the internet clip, and was I surprised to hear some of the things the Black Women said in this movie. The reason being that, the black men I have dated have all said that black women have attitudes or at least all that they know. But when I asked them,"Well did you ever ask them why", their answer was always that they could not restrain themselves from the attact long enough to ask.
Luckygem55 1 year ago
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OMG! I just watched this movie on DVD not knowing anything about the contraversy it has from the internet clip, and was I surprised to hear some of the things the Black Women said in this movie. The reason being that, the black men I have dated have all said that black women have attitudes or at least all that they know. But when I asked them,"Well did you ever ask them why", their answer was always that they could not restrain themselves from the attact long enough to ask.
Luckygem55 1 year ago
what was seen on the internet, wat vid was this, oh and the lead lady in this is hot
ThePokeyPictures 1 year ago
you know whats funny though... if this movie was called Black men aint shyt it would have sold out! Truth be told! hold that!
smith7g 1 year ago
@smith7g lol!! Thats true LMAO HAHAHAHA GOOD ONE
Jarack123 1 year ago
in the famous words of Tupac - And since we all came from a woman
Got our name from a woman and our game from a woman
I wonder why we take from our women
Why we rape our women, do we hate our women?
I think it's time to kill for our women
Time to heal our women, be real to our women
And if we don't we'll have a Black race of babies
That will hate the ladies, that make the babies
(For Black Men who hate Black women...what color is your grandmother, mother, sister and even your daughter)
jdavis4019 1 year ago
I know they like to beat ya down a lot
When you come around the block brothas clown a lot
But please don't cry, dry your eyes, never let up
Forgive but don't forget, girl keep your head up
And when he tells you you ain't nuttin don't believe him
And if he can't learn to love you you should leave him
Cause sista you don't need him
jdavis4019 1 year ago
I watched this and I was sooooo angry. OMG! I'm a AA Teenage girl I just think everything is wrong about this shit. How come whenever people make these kinds of movies they make us and themselves look dumb. They were asking all the wrong questions. What do Black Women?....How do Black Women? Ummm not all black women are the same, kay. Were not all mad and bitter and will call you out for dating a white girl and will do stuff just to make you mad.
niceperson31295 1 year ago
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@niceperson31295 why are you so angry?
allianceFiLifeDotCom 1 year ago
Mmm. Just what we need...another way to divide our race -.-
Smh, at the black people who actually support this.
NoirFilleChante 1 year ago 3
@NoirFilleChante It doesn't divide black people. If you actually watch the movie it defends black people. I love black women but even I've had my experience of most of them (not all mind you) calling me a sell out and white, just because I don't have a criminal background or I'm intelligent. Nothing wrong with having a strong black woman. But there's a difference between being strong and being a bitch.
Linklex7 1 year ago
@Linklex7 How can you say this doesn't divide black people; when it's clearly portraying black women as bitter, miserable bitches; and it's praising the black man for abandoning his own for a white women. And you try to make it seem like you have no problem with black women, but you obviously do if you think they're bitches. I could devote a whole movie to the failures of black men - but that's so pointless, because I love myself and I love my people.
NoirFilleChante 1 year ago 3
@NoirFilleChante I agree with this except for him dating a white woman. I don't believe people should not date some people because of their race. I love all colors of the rainbiow <3
coolchick8116 1 year ago
@NoirFilleChante You obviously didn't pay attention. The Tired man is divorced, hence his alimony pymt. Which means, she divorced him. No man volunteers to pay his ex wife. So she abandoned him. "I could devote a whole movie to the failures of black men - but that's so pointless, because I love myself and I love my people."
Don't worry, Oprah and the ABC Why Black Women are single beat you to the punch.
Superseadragon 1 year ago
@Superseadragon Who the fuck are Oprah and ABC?
NoirFilleChante 1 year ago
@Superseadragon ...He was tired, he more than likely had no problem paying what he is paying to get rid of her ass. A man will pay to get some peace. You women of color need to take notes.
reeross906 5 months ago
@reeross906 I'm not a women of color. I'm a Black Man. Check your self and make sure you read my comment correctly.
Superseadragon 5 months ago
@NoirFilleChante This movie only portrays women as "bitter, miserable bitches" the same way that some movies (i.e. a few Tyler Perry movies) will portray a dark brother as abusive, useless and diabolical. If anything, this movie seems like its trying to even the score by turning the tables on those constantly perpetuating the black male stereotype.
interpolluter29 11 months ago
@interpolluter29 I would disagree. Because even in Tyler Perry movies, he always turns around and portrays the model for a good black man. Besides, I could argue that Tyler Perry movies portrays black women as dramatic, loud, bitches (ie Angela from WDIGM), however I think Perry simply highlights the good AND the bad of black PEOPLE. Not just black men or black women.
NoirFilleChante 11 months ago
@interpolluter29 Furthermore. What irritates me about movies like this is it creates division WITHIN OUR OWN RACE. It's one thing if a white man had made this movie, but to have a BLACK man produce a movie putting down his OWN kind. Like, really...black people get enough shit in this world as it is? Why do we need bullshit like this that just enforces the divide between us? I think that black people need to stop fighting over petty stuff, and stand TOGETHER.
NoirFilleChante 11 months ago
@NoirFilleChante Mmm I watched it and I think that the writer/director genuinely wants a black woman. I think he's just frustrated and trying to communicate why he has a hard time dealing with black women. Of course all BW aren't like the main chick in this film, but I do know of that type.
Lozie82 8 months ago
@Lozie82 Well, I think it goes both ways. Finding a "good black man" isn't necessarily an easy task either. Especially, when half of these potentials exclusively date any woman BUT their own. I swear, in 100 years, their won't be a "black" race anymore.
NoirFilleChante 8 months ago
@interpolluter29 Because in my opinion...BW attacking BM, and BM attacking BW achieves NOTHING. And it makes our race look stupid. I mean come on. How often do you hear hispanic/asian/white men say "Oh...I date any type of women except my own"
Yea...probably not as often as you hear black men say that -.-
NoirFilleChante 11 months ago
this is why i love white women
ThowHilton 1 year ago
@ThowHilton
And since we all came from a woman
Got our name from a woman and our game from a woman
I wonder why we take from our women
Why we rape our women, do we hate our women?
I think it's time to kill for our women
Time to heal our women, be real to our women
And if we don't we'll have a race of babies
That will hate the ladies, that make the babies
jdavis4019 1 year ago
This was actually a decent movie, BAD ACTING, but deep premise :).
I will eventually make this a part of my collection... Watched it for the first time on Netflix.com.
EnChristosEime4life 1 year ago
this is one of the best movies i seen in a long time mad crazy every woman should watch it and think about the shit they do..........don't tell me girl that, i chris brown a chick I mean sing stupid oh lord
asamoahc 1 year ago
Jesus fucking Christ... I had to check out this trailer just to see what this movie's about. It seems like whenever black people get a turn at the mic, all they're really capable of is COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN! Why can't African-Americans simply stop adhering to their silly little culture of underachievement, minority elitism, and laziness, and actually do something about it? I doubt they'll raise their kids to be any different, and it turns out being an endless cycle of stupidity.
otnomnoraa 1 year ago
@otnomnoraa Fuck you cuz not every black person complains about this shit. You no nothing about anything, so stop assuming shit. Stop thinking everyones the same. I hate this movie cuz it makes us look stupid but I can't really blame you if you think that too but on the other hand, you probably have a brain soooo why must others influence your way of thinking about things. Just because u see some black ppl acting stupid doesn't mean were all that way.
niceperson31295 1 year ago
@niceperson31295 Your right about that. I'm tired of being put into one category. We are all different.
mnh2077 1 year ago
@mnh2077 Thanks
niceperson31295 1 year ago
@otnomnoraa Your ignorant but that doesn't mean that I think all of whatever your race is, is ignorant. But you know wats sad. If I non-white person is ignorant they are seen as low class and dumb and can't do anything with their life. But if a white person is ignorant they are senators, lawyers, Presidents and people in power and thats not becuz white ppl just ARE naturally that way it's becuz some SOME of u long time ago just decided to hate and hate hard and hate can hurt a person.
niceperson31295 1 year ago
@otnomnoraa Whatever race you are. It hurts to be hated. And thats what you might not understand. Hate. And hate against an entire group of people becuz there different. Stop! Stop before what you say can really scar and hurt someone. I mean, if your a human with a heart and not like a anatomical heart like a hearty heart, you'd care if you hurt someone you never got to know. Calm down and step awayyyy from the Hateraid!
niceperson31295 1 year ago
there was a story about a woman on oprah that spent $300,000 on a shopping spree. her husband works at UPS. she kept it a secret for a very, very, very long time. let me tell you how cold most of you women are. when the show was almost over, the women on the show bullied the man to apologize to her for intimidation....apparently, he was the reason why she couldn't tell him the truth, and that was wrong. i will say it again women, before you tell your man to be right, you need to be right.
Goodloeo 1 year ago
Whoever that black chick is she's very seductive.
visionimagify 1 year ago
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I think this will be a very interesting movie. People will assume that your are directing this towards all black women which however I'm sure is not the case. Individuals should understand that all black women are not angry and all black men are not tired but you know how people are so keep entertaining to the fullest! 2 Thumbs up!
KurvieKapone 1 year ago
I think this will be a very interesting movie. People will assume that your are directing it at all black women which however I'm sure is not the case. Individuals should understand that all black women are not angry and all black men are not tired but you know how people are so keep entertaining them to the fullest! 2 Thumbs up!
KurvieKapone 1 year ago
Peace, watched this movie, and found it to be true. A must watch for every Black/African American woman (which I am). The male "Waiting To Exhale"). I know the real women the female character play. True Story.
Icooka4u 1 year ago
is this real!?!?!?!?
Bosoxgalaxy 1 year ago
This is actually a great film, it deserves more thumbs up's.
mooker5600 1 year ago
Diary of a Tired White Man. Wouldn't be possible with all the manginas and feminists.
mooker5600 1 year ago
PLease i'm a Black man, and this trailer is wack... Sorry I don't think I'll be taking advice or notes from this movie..
aCekryminAL 1 year ago
they are your enemies huh, they are stealing your men". I thought, who the hell does this guy think he is, y should a non blk wmn be my enemy? what does a blk man and a non-blk wmn's union have to do with my life? my family? my success? he really wanted those wmn to fight over him. who is he? what's his worth? i turned that shit off so quick.....nothing but the blame game.. black ppl wake up!
nkreseknowledge 1 year ago
I saw this on tv last night, the title intrigued me. At first, i was excited, I thought this guy is making some good points. He portrayed the typical angry blk wmn correct. Then, about 15-20 min in the movie, he is interviewing a sista with a natural and two non-blk wmn, not white though. He says to the blk wmn about the 2 other wmn, who were her friends..
nkreseknowledge 1 year ago
...Uh uh uh @ 1:33!
MyAfroShow 1 year ago
Uh uh uh @ :57.
MyAfroShow 1 year ago
They should have interviewed a wider selection of Black dudes. Most of the guys they're talking to look like they are rifraff who hangs on the corner all day.
PatsBooks 1 year ago
@PatsBooks what is rif raf??? and who uses that term in america?? are you a foreigner?? cus i only see foreigners use that term....and look beyond exteriors .why is it every black guy is riff raf to you and every white or asian guy is a model citizen?? i wonder why... some of these guy may be in college just cus a dude is . kinda street smart dont mean hes rif raf.. ive seen many white guys who are rif raf but i bet you think their perfect...
mddarch2 1 year ago
@PatsBooks oh forget it!! your 47 years old and probably a fool from the foolish generation ..
mddarch2 1 year ago
yeah right LOL!!! they spoke to all kinds of men i know the guy that put this movie together. they talked to men PERIOD! some worked in construction some worked on wall street and some were in a barber shop....thats why you have issues you judge a book by its cover. the point of the movie was to talk to men and women regardless of what they do but apparently you either missed the point or never seen the movie.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
lol awesome...not black myself but white men wanna exhale too :P
Women are are too self obsessed these days.
GazAnders69 1 year ago 3
Proverbs 21:19 It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman. Nothing new under the sun
Leemason39 1 year ago
Just saw this movie. loved it. i think it tells both perspective. What I get from the movie is the black family is continin to destroyin itself either way, no matter who fault it is. black men goin to other races of women. 42% of bw women never married. Bm makin babies not takin care of them. Bw making poor choices in men and havin babies
bmarley323 1 year ago 2
EXACTLY! if you live in the ally why do you expect prince charming? most women like the tough thugged out type and get surprised when he dont be around....its all on you.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
this is a stupid arguement...yes man is the head but woman is the neck so without us you can't blasted turn...so shut up with the whole man is head and women should submit...certain things called for certain times...we not in biblical days no more
oluchia 1 year ago
We sure aren't in "Biblical days anymore" - and when did you not know that it is the head that sends the signal down for the neck to turn it? Think,,, the head controls all body functions - even a fart.
ScreenTime 1 year ago
ok then....sooo it stilld oesn't need the neck? it's there for a reason.....and without it...u still can't turn....so yea...
oluchia 1 year ago
@ScreenTime
You can't expect to make Mz Oluchia understand a dang thing. On her page she says... "am a true Trini girl.... (yeah right) ... i am beautifully and wonderfully made by God ...love him. I am 19,"
Nuff said!
Mz is the new generation of lost Black female taught by feminist minded brickheads who want nothing but pure social disaster. She is doing what the system is telling her to do, nothing more.
EV
Evens1 1 year ago 2
good point.
getyoasshome 1 year ago 2
@oluchia this is not a contest to say who is what neck,tail ,head....whatever women always think they know what its like being a man. but have never been a man before or walked in his shoes and vica versa men havent ever been women ...but yet we get women idealism shoved down our throats its a one sided argument this movie is just a window into how we feel about yall we dont hate you just tired of not being heard .
TheKen32 1 year ago
This is a must see movie/documentary,tells the story of what alot of good black men go through with black women who suffer with angry black woman syndrome.
Leemason39 1 year ago
if black men apply themselves more- they would have less problems
thing is its either black women or non black women with black men
they dont realize that upon reaching success they can stay with black women- every other race of men sticks to his women and goes back to the community whenever he gets it big- everyone is hit by the "white women are precious" garbage but how come mostly black men buy it? not even wm falling for it that much...its embarrassing
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
I agree black men do need to apply themselves more,more black women are attending and graduating from college than black men. I do believe black men not having a positive role model in the home,and this hip hop culture has ruined black men. Little black girls have seen for the past couple of generations mother working hard to bring home the bacon and go to school. The destruction of black family is a major cause. But black women need to let go of some of the attitude to draw a good black man
Leemason39 1 year ago
and then yall use the excuse that its black women's attitude- thats bullshit! cause a lot of bw are just fine....a lot of bw are educated and successful and sweet and dont want anything but a brother- yet how come yall still ignore her? that means the problem lies mostly in black men- they have a problem with being black altogether that they will find any measly fault in a great bw but will settle for any trash of another color...you guys do it for show-thing is your being laughed at not with
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
You make some good points openmindedfemme,Im not anti-black woman,I'm dating a really good black jamaican woman,who is sweet as pie,and dont suffer from angry black woman syndrome, I don't like to see brothas overlook the sistas for white and asian women, This documentary doesnt try to over the tired brothas out there,but shine light on problems that good black men ecounter from controlling,rude,and angry black women that have excused this behavior for generations.
Leemason39 1 year ago
i didnt see any "good" black men in there
i saw a bunch of typicals
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
I have a co-worker she has been dating this tired brotha,he dont work,has a felony. This nice guy from IT approached her,not a bad looking guy,this guy brought her gifts,asked her out on dates. Well she said he was too nice of a guy and not thug enough,What im trying to say,is that Good guys are always around,but black women overlook them.
Leemason39 1 year ago
@Leemason39 I'm a black woman and have never had a "good" man approach me yet when it came to black men so stop with the lies.
ktc311 1 year ago
Maybe you have overlooked some good black men and didnt know it. Have you seen the movie/documentary? The movie doesnt deny there are alot of tired brothas out there,but there are alot of good black men that catch hell from rude black women suffering from angry black woman sydrome
Leemason39 1 year ago
then you need to ask what has destroyed the black family....
you need to ask why black girls are succeeding and not black boys
its easy to say -"someone making me do it' but everyone has a choice in every situation - may not always be good but blaming someone else for it - aint gonna cut it
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
We as black men could do a better job. The feminist liberation movement played a big part in the destruction/division of the both black and white families in America. In the bible who did Pharoah wont to destroy,the male? So you have lots of black successful women,but no man in the home.
Leemason39 1 year ago
thats a woman thing in general
until black men realize that women of all races will look over good guys and go for the more idealized bad boy- then black men will never learn
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
well bad girls can be very sexy,but I'm not going to be trying to expect or try to transform her into a housewife. Look at all the rappers wives,lot of them are nothing like the video chicks. So you cant look for love in all the wrong places,your pretty interesting chick
Leemason39 1 year ago
the feminist movement?
what are you talking about?
the feminist movement has nothing to do with us...many bw arent feminists and even if they were that has nothing to do with a man running away...a man does not a run away- a boy runs...which is probably what most of yall are seeing how you never take accountability for anything
need to stop blaming black women, white men, feminists and see that it is you who make the choices and you who have to deal with the consequences cause you chose it
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
It was originally a white woman movement,but it played apart in dividing men and women,and gradually deteriorting the family,its no be secret. Im not trying to black everything on women,might seem that way. But both black men and women need to be accountable, you are a strong black woman
Leemason39 1 year ago
your just proving that black men like to over control....you are looking for a doll..not a woman
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
I like a virtuous woman,like in proverbs,I believe black women try to be the controlling ones in the relationship,and test her man
Leemason39 1 year ago
other men would be glad to have such women to be next to
black men are just too weak of men i guess
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
If you found the right man,would you be submissive to him? Your not like the character Tanya in this documentary are you??????
Leemason39 1 year ago
if i found the right man - being submissive wouldnt be a question it would be avoided
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
So you want to control the man in the relationship,and have him be submissive,role reversal
Leemason39 1 year ago
because real men dont need to put down another just to feel like a "real man"
its funny how black men like to control black women and call it submissiveness....remember when black men were the white man's bitch? he made you submissive as a motherfucker didnt he....did black men like that?
just because someone is physically more gifted it does not qualify them as stronger or better.....
men are not better than women...never have been - never will be
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ," (1 Cor. 11:3). 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands. Mutual duties are named. The husband should love his wife as Christ loved the church (Eph 5:23), and the wife should submit to this loving husband as unto the Lord.
Leemason39 1 year ago
and i like how people counter that by saying "its natural"
if it was "natural" something brought on by nature then there would be no lesbians, gay men, bad mothers, bad fathers, feminist women as well as men....if these things were "natural" as the sexist bible and its "followers" aka hypocritical christians and over zealous black men like to put it - if these things were natural then there would be exactly two sexes and everything done would be second nature to each of us
but it isnt is it?
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
so because i say that i dont want to be submissive the only other solution is for me to be the one in control- what the fuck is up with you?
openmindedfemme 1 year ago
So you dont believe in the scriptures of the role of the husband and wife in the bible,says the man is the head of the woman,and she is to be submissive to her husband,the husband is also to love his wife as himself. Now today's society and feminist dont believe in this scripture,these are the ones going around with butch haircuts
Leemason39 1 year ago
aye bro i know you using scripture but the bible is a fabrication within itself so thats a bad example.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
So are you saying you dont believe in the bible? Are you a atheist? Whats your Religion? Other religions hold the same beliefs
Leemason39 1 year ago
what im saying is the bible is a fabrication of other religions including egyptian religion....does god have anything to do with religion???? HELL NO!! so no im not a atheist i just know the difference between god and religion. an atheist doesnt believe in god.....god has NOTHING to do with religion....religion is man made. and used for social order and brainwashing. dont believe it? look at your politicians and crooked preachers like creflo dollar and TD fakes. they want that cash yo.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
So you dont believe any of the bible to be true? Bible does mention to beware of wolves in sheep clothing, but inwardly their ravenous wolves,and that in the last days there would be many false prophets that would deceive many. I dont follow or believe in any of those crooks,not into main stream religion,but do believe the word of GOD
Leemason39 1 year ago
egyptian religion came way before the christian religion and the bible and they have all the same similarities. you must take into consideration who wrote the bible and who tampered with it. Constantine tampered with the bible. bottom line god has nothing to do with religion.... is some things true in the bible? maybe. is it easy to look at human nature and write a book based on the actions of humans that have never changed? yes. the word of god is not just in the bible. some is common sense.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Egyptians were Pagans,they worshiped many Gods which included the Sun God Ra, I believe in only one God,which is the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob. Any other God,you would be worshipping the fallen Angels from Heaven
Leemason39 1 year ago
and americans arent pagans? how many so called christians believe in the trinity or the idea that jesus IS GOD?. not to mention that other religions that pre date christianity that has a deity with a virgin birth ya da ya da ya da...the bottom line is people dont need religion because religion is poison it degrades some people and justifies what those men at the time liked and practiced like slavery, polygamy etc...the bible is not the only source for god either.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Yes,there is paganism wrapped up in the christian church,specially with celebrating of Christmas and Easter. Yeshua is not God,He is the Son of the One and only True God. The white man did twist the scriptures to justify enslaving black people,and he lied about Yeshua being black,and the ancient Egyptians.
Leemason39 1 year ago
god has NO partners thats religions right there by saying jesus is god's son. god had many "sons" in scripture. ask many historians and they will tell you that jesus was born in the area of present day iraq. you white people aint having that tho.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
So do you believe in the book of Revelation: read Revelation 13 chapter,talks about the beast,the Antichrist,basically thats the new world order,also spoken in the book of Daniel
Leemason39 1 year ago
well the thing about revelations that people forget is that it was supposedly a dream. the new world order happened 300 years ago after the supposed "revolutionary war" happened.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Most Christians understand it was a Vision of John from God,Bible prophecy is being fullfilled.
Leemason39 1 year ago
most christians also believe that people really lived for 900 years like noah and methusulah. is revelations true to a tee? i dont think so because we have always been living in the "last days" think about it.....everyday could be your last day. everything dies but nobody but god knows when. when the trumpet blows and the your clock is punched its a done deal but all this 2012 mass death trash is bogus.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
I see you dont believe any of the bible,So do you believe in the Koran? what you think about the environmental movement and New Age Movement? Do you believe in Aliens? 2012 was a prediction of the end made by Mayans. Bible states no man knows the day or hour when God will come back.
Leemason39 1 year ago
i didnt say i didnt believe in any of the bible i just know that some of it is based on stories and half truths there is no way we can believe all of what man says because man is full of error. again when you listen to the B.S. about 2012 and all that it sounds like Y2K...you remember all that? so just like you said if the bible says "no man knows the day or hour" why would we listen to some trash about the mayans? they are man right? they are not god.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
like i said i take things out of a lot of different books and blend them together. the thing about people especially americans they dont know their own history. the mayan culture didnt die they just migrated to modern day mississippi...they stopped making calanders.....i dont know why but they did...but when you let man get a hold of something he will pervert it like they did the bible and anything you see on tv. nostradamus and movies are not real. movies are not a good place to find history.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Well dont ignore everything you see on TV,and the movies,it is propaganda to prepare you for whats to come. The new world order is real,The global world goverment is real,666 mark of the beast mention in bible is real, which will be a microchip in your hand United Nations and the Global warming Hoax,pay attention ,future police state is real,Y2K,propaganda fear tactic
Leemason39 1 year ago
key word...PROPAGANDA..the issue is not the message but who is putting the message out there..the same people that bring you ignorant B.E.T. (viacom) and other trashy businessman are who are bringing you the movies like Armageddon and 2012. the micro chip is already here bruh...check your pass port, credit cards etc..you cant put a chip in your hand because your body will reject it. its already been tried. 2012 is another fear tactic...if you believe that then why read the bible????
getyoasshome 1 year ago
I agree BET is very ignorant TV,nothing to stimulate us as people,VIACOM took it I use to like watching shows Tavist Smiley. Look at the messages in those movies,like Will Smith in Enemy of The State,You know Movies,TV and the music industry are controlled by the illuminati,most people are decieved and brainwashed,and dont get the subliminal messages
Leemason39 1 year ago
yeah those movies are made for a reason but the thing is they have always been here. watch this documentaries called "the capitalist conspiracy" "zeitgeist" and "zeitgeist addendum" the capitlalist conspiracy is hella old and was made in the 60s so that goes to show you that the info was there but nobody paid attention. they are all on you tube also. it talks about the Illuminati, the CFR etc..i dont listen to people talking about jay Z is a mason and all that trash. i like truth with evidence.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
I really believe he is,specially throwing up that masonic pyramid sign,he is in with the establishment,cant be that big in the music industry and not sale your sold to the devil. There all down with the Baphomet
Leemason39 1 year ago
when you research the masons you will find that someone like jay z can never be in that fraternity...his money is pennies to them. hes not popular anymore and no one is buying his stuff. you gotta remember we talking about a rapper thats all jay is....a rapper....the real ones are ones that control governments and money. jay doesnt control anything. rap music is not even a blip on the radar for them. they into bigger things. he sold his soul to corporate america not the illuminated ones.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
well he can be a low degree Mason,look at his clothing line rocafella with all the masonic symbols,the pyramid sign he makes often in videos and in his concerts. He is not a high degree mason in politics like Bush and Kerry,But you know the illuminati influences the record industry and movies,to deceive the masses
Leemason39 1 year ago
you gotta remember jay z and all that clothing line stuff is not just jay z...its damon dash too. dash is who owns rocawear not jay z. they been doing that stuff way back in like 97' this isnt knew and they didnt have no dough back then like they do now. hes not a mason at all for the simple fact that blacks cannot be masons thats why a black man named prince hall created his own masonic thing. i would know my grandfather was a prince hall mason but its nothing like the free masons.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
okay,so you saying there not masons,I guess they like pretending to be masons,and like promoting masonic symbols on their clothing line. So not a free mason,but a black Mason,Boule,Jesse Jackson and Dr. King. Albert Pike founder of Klan was a Mason,and your Fraternities and Sororites are very masonic,use similar initiations and rites. You have the Scottish Rite,The Knights of Templar,etc etc
Leemason39 1 year ago
they not pretending to be masons the media and other clowns have put that tag on them. you NEVER seen or heard jay z say he is with the masons are any kind of secret society..im telling like this..all that boule, mason bullshit is exactly what it is..bullshit. its not that serious those people have NO POWER.. the frats and sorr. are not masons they are greek frats. they're all kinds of secret societies but not all are "masons" albert pike wasnt the klan founder it was nathan bedford forrest.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Jay Z would never admit he was a mason,cause is a secret society,there is no proof he was initiated as a Mason,but he sure does act like one,look at his videos. Lots of Masonic symbols,specially Rihanna Yale skull and bones,Fraternity,similar masonic rituals,and rites. Well maybe I was wrong about Albert Pike,but he was a Klan and a Mason. All these secret societies are similar,whether you a freemason,prince hall,frat or sorer.
Leemason39 1 year ago
but you have to use common sense...is rhianna a part of skull and bones? is jay z a part of any of that stuff? jay z and other rocafella artist have been using that diamond sign for years. they are not similar they are not even in the same ball park. they are just secret societies just like when you were a kid and you had a boys only meeting and you didnt want girls knowing whats going on....just because its a secret doesnt mean its evil. crips and bloods are secret societies.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Im not saying Rhianna is part of the skulls and bones,but you know the music industry is controlled by the illumunati,artist today make more mention of the illumunati in their videos,and show more masonic symbols in their videos. I guess you dont relize how deep Jay Z is into the illuminati,guess you never seen video on tupac talking about the illuminati and other artist
Leemason39 1 year ago
like who? and like my professor says.."what evidence do you have to back that up" i know what you're talking about but the bad thing is you have no idea what you are talking about. so the music industry is controlled by the illuminati? so why do i not see any "masonic" symbols in country music videos? or rock videos? ima tell you like this? you guys are thinking a little too much..i dont think you know exactly what you are talking about. whats the point of having masonic symbols in your videos?
getyoasshome 1 year ago
music and television,movie industry,news media,all controlled by the illuminati. thats why you have so much propaganda in the movies,to deceive and control the masses,why so many people today believing in the new age environment movement. Rock music has always had Satanic symbols and messages. The 2009 MTV awards simulating masonic rituals,look it up on you tube
Leemason39 1 year ago
its just like faith...its for those who cant think. if you get caught up in whats on TV then you deserve to get flim flammed. rock music had satanic symbols? like what? i suggest you do some research on rock music and the artist with those "satanic symbols" there is a such thing as shock rock like ozzy, slayer, megadeth etc...thats what they do to sell records..if they like that then so be it...how does that affect you or anyone else tho? MTV?? why are you even watching that?
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Alot of these heavy metal rock musicians are into devil worship,and have sold their sold to the devil,watch an interview on youtube with Bob Dylan and Ed Bradley from 60 mins,Bob Dylan admits it sold his sold to the devil. I pay attention to the words coming from the musicians mouth,where alot of them have stated that demonic spirits take control over their bodies which allow them to perform. MTV doesnt effect me,but lots of young people watching
Leemason39 1 year ago
bob dylan is his own man and he didnt sell his soul because he did rock music...as a matter of fact dylan does folk music. what heavy metal musicians said they sold their souls to the devil??? and if they did i say one more time HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOU??
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Well if you listen or read any lyrics in heavy metal rock music,its obvious these groups or single artist sold their sold to the devils,It doesnt effect me,but it does alot of people that follow them
Leemason39 1 year ago
i follow no man so if people like to get caught up thats on them. but a lot of people mis interpret what the lyrics are talking about. listen to Iron Maiden's song
"number of the beast"...the chorus says "666 the number of the beast" but it has nothing to do with worshiping the devil. lyrics are about as obvious as you watching the terminator or die hard....ITS NOT REAL you never heard the artist say that is what they do but they get into character. arnold is not killing anyone in real life.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
So your saying its just entertaintment,no harm to make references to serving the devil and 666,and hold up devil horns,and sing songs like "Im on the highway to hell. So do you believe the Devil and his fallen Angels exist? Do you believe God cast him out of heaven?
Leemason39 1 year ago
i'll tell you what...the rock culture is a culture you dont understand unless you know about the music and the artist. when maiden is talking about 666 he is telling a story about when he woke up and saw some people making sacrifices and worshiping the devil and he says in the song that he needs to tell the lord what is going on...see if you dont understand the culture then you dont know much. the whole devil horns thing has nothing to do with the devil its the culture.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Alex crowley satanist was well known for holding up the devil horns which is the sign of baphomet,same as rock groups. I guess you see nothing satanic about heavy metal rock music and groups like Judas Priest,Black Sabbath,Ozzy Osborne; this is soley entertainment,kinda like Santa Clause,So What you think about witchcraft?
Leemason39 1 year ago
LOL!!!!! like i said if you dont know the culture then all i can say is research it because you sound like white people when they talk about so called "gangster rap" they dont know the culture so they assume. ozzy is a christian he even said so. judas priest is a group nothing more they wear leather and chains. sabbath is ozzy...or ronnie james dio...just like you got three 6 mafia you got sabbath. i dont believe in witches,warlocks, ghost, demons etc...none of that affects me. i believe in god.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Im 42 grew up on old school rap and hip hop,liked the old school gangsta rap NWA,Tupac,Ice Cube,Ice T, I'm not into todays rap and hip hop,gotten old same style,Money cars and Ho's,no creativity. I dont believe in praticing witchcraft,but the devil,witchcraft and voodo is real,look at people in Hait during rituals swallowing whole chickens,
Leemason39 1 year ago
i'll tell you like this..voo doo is not what you see on TV i'll just leave it at that...voo doo is a mix of Catholicism and african traditional religion.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
basically every culture has praticed some form of witchcraft,just different names
Leemason39 1 year ago
voodoo is not witchcraft.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
i dont believe in the devil the way most people do. the devil is NOT a being with horns and a tail thats folklore. the devil is a metaphor for an evil side of all of us. all i can tell you is to listen to the lyrics and watch some interviews with some musicians. whats the difference between 2 pac making a song about killing people and ridin on people and AC DC saying im on a high way to hell? they both are artist telling a story whether its good or bad. learn the culture first.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Most Christians should know better that the devil is not red with a tail,horns and a pitch fork,but that he is a fallen angel from heaven named lucifer,Son of the Morning,Devil would have some to believe he is a fictional character to deceive them.
Leemason39 1 year ago
i dont spend my days thinking about the devil, lucifer, dracula none of them...thats a distraction.
getyoasshome 1 year ago
the devil is no fictional character that was made up,He is a fallen Angel from Heaven. So do you believe God created the heavens and the Earth?
Leemason39 1 year ago
thats a answer that i think you already know...if i believe in god then why wouldnt i believe he created the heavens and the earth?
getyoasshome 1 year ago
Well i didnt know since you dont believe in the Bible, I thought your God might be The Great Architect or Allah,or Some God of Wood or Stone,or a New Age God. The bible states in the last days people were going to depart from the faith and give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of Devils. I know you might think christianity is a white religion,but its not,it was spread through out Europe during Paul's time,The Isralites were all black,and very bright person. You male or female?
Leemason39 1 year ago
Allah is god its the same god in the bible. jesus said his name on the cross if you know a little about Arabic and Aramaic. i dont need faith to believe in god people need faith to believe in religion not god because god is in your face everyday. faith is a virtue for those who cant think.. i didnt say christianity was a white religion i said all religion is pointless....iraelites were all black? but what difference does it make? god doesnt care about skin color...im a grown man.
getyoasshome 1 year ago