“He fired at it [the baby] with a .45. He missed. We all laughed. He got up three or four feet closer and missed again. We laughed. Then he got up right on top and plugged him.”
(Source)
Peers Inquiry: Report of the Department of the Army Review of the Preliminary Investigations into the My Lai Incident
Jesus christ, the public thinks we shouldn't be in afghanistan. Most of those people have never been there and they are truly tyrannical for trying to say what's best for people in foreign countries.
When America nuked the two Japanese cities they killed 140,000+ innocent people. Another 2 million died in the next 5 years. They have bombed civilians of
@lesdoyle2000 The Taliban were harbouring Al Qaeda which is why America invaded Afghanistan. The Taliban wouldn't hand Bin Laden over. Bin Laden had been in Afghanistan since the Soviet War. The Taliban and Al Qaeda are two seperate groups but are virtually the same in ideology. One is just smarter and wealthier than the other. US did not control Al Qaeda what the hell are you talking about?
@lesdoyle2000 Wrong. Ever heard of the Afghan Civil War (96-01)? The Taliban were formed after the Russians left in 1989, there was a civil war, with different factions within Afghanistan fighting for control of the country. The Taliban emerge in the 1990s as one of these factions after differing ideas within the Mujahideen. This resulted in the Civil War between the extremist Taliban and the more democratic, United Front led by Ahmad Shah Massoud. I don't care for silly conspiracy theories.
@lesdoyle2000 The US had nothing to do with the Taliban coming to power. If you must blame another country for the formation of the Taliban you must blame Pakistan. Pakistan encouraged and supported th Taliban during its formation in the belief that it would be more stable for Pakistani oil distribution pipes Pakistan wanted to run through Afghanistan. Believe it or not but the US are not the only country that likes oil.
@lesdoyle2000 Sudan was bombed because it was suspected that the pharmaceutical factory was developing chemical weapons by bin Laden & al-Zawahiri who were responsible for the 1998 US embassy bombings in East Africa.
The Taliban made themselves an enemy when they refused to hand bin Laden over. The US are not occupying Saudi Arabia; bin Laden couldn't care less about Iraqis, he just wanted an excuse to be mad at the US; bin Laden doesn't care about Palestine.
Following the Soviet Collapse in 1991 several new nations in Central Asia are created. Major US oil companies, including Exxon Mobil, Texaco, Unocal, BP Amoco, Shell, and Enron bribe heads of state to secure the oil in these regions. These oil fields have an estimated $20 trillion. The problem is getting the oil out. The best route is through Afghanistan.
Al Qaeda were used in Turkmenistan Uzbekistan Bosnia and Kosovo to gain US influence for US oil Companies.
1996 May 15 Maj Gen Elfatih Erwa, (Sudan Minister of Defence) offered to extradite Bin Laden to US. US officials said let him go to Afghanistan. Sudan asked bin Laden to vacate the country. Is Bin Laden a CIA operative? Two years later the US bombed Sudan supposedly because the Sudanese government was allied with bin Laden. (172)
The Sudan attack destroyed a pharmaceutical factory, which the US falsely said was making chemical weapons.
The Taliban do not care about US and are only interested in Afghanistan.
Osama who fronted a group called "International Islamic Front For Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders" released a statement in 1997 with 3 reasons for being against US all are true.
1. US occupying Saudi Arabia.
2. US and Israel killing 1 million Iraqi’s and destroying the strongest arab state.
3. US serving Israel and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region to cause disunion and weakness.
@lesdoyle2000 the taleban were supporting terrorists. so they were basically terrorists. plus i didn't say that was the only reason why usa was there.
2001 Sep 16 Taliban agree to All US Demands. The meeting of Taliban and US gov representatives in the city of Quetta, Pakistan. Afghan-US businessman Kabir Mohabbat serves as a middleman. Mohabbat claims that the Taliban agrees to all the demands but when the US are told they say “the train has moved”
CBS News 9/25/2001 “Secret Meeting Between US and taliban officials”
@lesdoyle2000 if its 'secret meeting' how can you know about it? look i've heard ALOT of these stupid stories. believe me. i have heard about the 9/11, the moonlanding in -69 about osamas death etc etc.. and most of these are stupid. like yours. it might be true, but lately i've heard so many i really don't believe them anymore.my opinion why the us was there is to fight terrorism ( al qaida and taleban) and maybe to get some oil.
I guess it is better to have dumbfuck rednecks dieing and making some oil execs rich rather than collecting welfare. What's the latest estimates on the oil wars? It was $3 trillion in 98 before the troop surge so it is probably over $4 trillion now
2010 Ray R. Irani: CEO of Occidental Petroleum is paid $76.1 mill
2010 Rex Tillerson CEO of Exxon was only paid $27.2 mill
1998 Feb 12 John Maresca of Unocal tells congress that to access the $20 trillion in Caspian Sea oil the only possible route is a pipeline across Afghanistan. To build this pipeline US needs regime change in Afghanistan to appease bankers and Unocal. (149)
I think communist has been replaced by terrorist to decribe whoever US is at war with and anybody who gets killed is labelled an insurgent.
The funniest part is US media can no longer be trusted to tell the truth. Even the reporter who was leaked WMD lies by Cheney is still working. Amazing.
Following the Soviet Collapse in 1991 several new nations in Central Asia are created. US oil companies bribe heads of state to secure the oil in these regions. These oil fields have an estimated $20 trillion. The problem is getting the oil out.
The only viable route is through Afghanistan.
(SOURCE)
New Yorker “The Price of Oil“ Seymour Hersh 9 Jul 2001
obama intends on staying in afghanistan to be another player in the 70 billion annual drug heroin trade that he has allowed to flourish. just as in russia when they were there . he will continue to lie to the american public stating that we cam make some kind of humanitarian progress fighting against the taliban that wanted to irradicate the heroin trade. in a country that is so impoverish the taliban are no threat to us. we should be involved with mexico and their drug war if anything.
@lesdoyle2000 Well- the US has freedom of speech (somewhat) and still a right to bare arms (in some places) and also freedom of the press (rarely but its there)
Well it took the US like 15 years from they placed him on their top ten most wanted terrorists untill they caught him, go home, good job, it will just take too much time to find the rest of them lol
are all humbug! BIN LADEN CIA work for many years, so it makes a lot of information which knew that the U.S. government did not suit him alive, it was somewhat disturbing to them, they killed him! then who did? that planned? and that there lies behind the American government? sought an excuse, people believe them, their nation and the world, who avenged all killed on September 11th!
TYT, you guys are possibly the stu.... wait no.... you guys are most definately the stupidest leftist idiots in the entire world... just because osama MAY be dead (he isn't dead at all actually but all that aside) doesn't make the problem any less serious. okay, so the leader of the terrorists is gone, now they have no direction and just kill anyone and anything to prove a point...
you are stupid, there is no way we should come home.
Is that an incentive to vote? Bring 'em home, no need to help people who don't, won't or will ever know the concept of democracy nor will they ever raise their heads above the 7th century. Good for them, let them live that way & the next time a slime ball attacks america in that manner keep the troops home and send in the nukes.
@iNeedAVeapun pointless? what if that terrorist would have killed something more than one sister if the troops were not taken to that "pointless war"?
@iNeedAVeapun I'm sorry for the loss of your sister; however we've all suffered losses in the middle east and those troops who were there would not want to leave. They all know what they're fighting for, not the public.
I knew a guy who went to Iraq, he was a machine gunner in the US army. When asked whether we should leave, he said not to believe what the media says and that we're doing good there.
He was killed by a sniper a couple months later, shot through the neck.
Sometimes I like Cenks opinions, but damn this time hes just as illiterate as everyone else is. No shit he wasn't in Iraq or Afghanistan, we knew that from the start.
@Newenlightenmentnow How did you get Pwned well lets see-5000 americans died, you spent over a trilion dollars(your country is already 14 trillion in debt), and than the real kicker is you find out that iraq had no wmd's and bin laden wasnt in either of those countrys, BITCHES GOT PWNED BIG TIME- Oh and as for your comment about canada have you analyzed my country lately, actually wait take one dollar and try to be one dollar canadian- well give your punk as 94 cents. PWNED BIG TIME SON
Firstly USA said. OSAMA killed in TORA BORA hills in Afghanistan , then USA said OSAMA killed due to kidney disease.
now this is game plan of USA to come and operation in PAk american ppl are fools and stupid they beleive wahtever media and their government tells them!!!! this is all for obama campagne and attacks in pak,,!!! OSAMA HAS BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS WAKEUP PEOPLE!
Yeah let's get the fuck out of there. Let them know, that freedom is in their own hands. They can either follow the ways of the enlightenment or continue with their ancient desert fairy tale. However leave them with a stern warning that if it happens again, we will beat the shit out of them again and how every long it takes until they get the message.
Mission Accomplished? BAHAHAHAH Fuck americans are stupid. The only thing you did was weaken your country- bahaah you clowns couldnt beat turban heads with rocks wtf are you going to do against RUSSIA ababba USA=PWNED bow down bitches bow down
@phillybluntsj How the fuck did we get PWNED cocksucker? We could wipe Russia off the face of the map. Your country is so technologically backwards that you couldn't even rescue your own trapped sailors when you had a submarine accident. Your country is laughable. Someone should smash your head open with a sledge hammer so we can see if your head actually contains a brain.
@Newenlightenmentnow Don't try to invade Russia, man. They will just retreat until the winter comes, then sit back and drink vodka, while you and your equipment are turning into ice qubes. Like they do every fucking time someone tries to invade.
u think USA came to war in afghanistan for so many years just to catch osama? really! how lame can you get. it wants to grip this part of asian region in its claws...to creat a balance of power with china..thats hwy its butting in asian summits held in east asia. i am not saying thats the only reason. but osama is just an excuse man!
no I'm with our pres the one you guys put in office, we stay Obama's right. I really like his bogus BC he put on his web site to convince all those that voted for him that he really was born in US, that's priceless
wake up!!! Bin Laden isn't dead and he was never the mastermind terrorist. he actually agreed to be named as scapegoat so the whole plan would go off without a hitch. Now his plastic surgery is complete, he can go on living the life of a multi-rich man. What? Unbelievable you say? When you've been eating up everything you hear? I hope there's help 4 U on the horizon.
But FAR WORSE is when you are murdered by your own nation's military in order to carry out a plan to commit genocide and heinous destruction of tens of millions of peole who never harmed us. NOT IN OUR NAMES.
@porvort perhaps showing some concern?? 3000 ppl died, world goes crazy. Don't you think that if 1000 000 ppl died, the world should go 300x more crazy?
@claton95 I do not understand how I am sacrificing my mental capacity by illustrating the injustice in this world. Evidently you do not want to hold this fact as true, thus are questioning my sanity. Do you not see the bigger picture, little girl?
Yeah, we'll leave. Leave about new 25 bases there, lol.
Our government is most likely going to set up permanent military bases there with chain stores opening up around their major cities to support them. A springboard for our next "operation" (war).
@iansheng it's not an organization, it's separate small groups inspired by a small elite. That was the problem, you catch one cell, that doesn't affect the other cells, because they wouldn't even know each other. Once you get the small elite, then the inspiration level dies off.
Forgive my naivete, but why wasn't the plan from the start to only send small contingents of service members to Afghanistan (as opposed to tens of thousands).
As soon as the US and allies reached over 3000 dead civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan they became no better than Osama and they beat that number by 10s of thousands.
Should never have gone there, then all those innocent people that got killed in the war would be alive, all those dead soldiers would be alive. I mean common?? fucking stupid.. Ok he's dead.. what now?
The United Stated brought hell on Earth to the citizens of Afghanistan, we should 1st figure out how to do right by them. Then again the USA has never cared really bout the people in other countries as we fumble around Cater Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 never gave shit about the Afghans, Obama probably doesn't either or he would have put a boot in Karzi's corrupt ass.
The United Stated brough hell on Earth to the citizens of Afghanistan, we should 1st figure out how to do right by them. Then again the USA has never cared really bout the people in other countries as we fumble around Cater Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 never gave shit about the Afghans, Obama probably doesn't either or he would have put a boot in Karzi's corrupt ass.
No look the story is all his followers communicated on the afghan/Pakistan border so majority are in Pakistan I say we stay cuz if you kill the CEO of mcdonalds are all mcdonalds going to go away hell does it send a message yes will mcdonalds want revenge probably and if we keep them occupied we won't let them get revenge
@culverizedzebra Then again the revenge may already be on it's way from a place other than Afghanistan. Taking advantage of we being occupied, keeping some else occupied.
What a foolish thing for Cenk to say. Despite whether or not you believe we should've gone to war in those two countries in the first place, why does the death of bin laden mean we just leave? We weren't really there to just find that guy and go. Osama bin laden was like 5% of the reason we were over there. Yes us going to Iraq and Afghanistan has also caused much much of the insurgency just by attacking them. But now that we started it, we finish it.
@noodles297 Finish it with Seal Team 6, not endless, expensive, occupation that only benefits big oil. Oh wait that's why we are there. Hope those Italian physicists are legit with their (derivative) cold-fusion claims. That would end big oil economic world domination. Its design is in multiple universities, and free.
@noodles297 i think the fact that when reverend yosemite sam burned a quran and afghanis reacted by murdering innocent un staff members in their religious blood lust was the perfect example of why we have no hope of accomplishing anything there; they are a people still mired in extremist religious intolerance and any hope for democracy has to come from home grown movements, like the rest of the arab world.
What we should do is leave! But we should strengthen the he'll outta our security here. The MF'ers who did 9/11 didn't fly here from camel land they hijacked the shit here! The terrorists are here not there.
The funny thing is he forgot to mention the 100000 afghans who died thr, and also about the million iraqies who died in iraq..Shall we sweep that under the carpet, or held somebody responsible (bush may be) for a war crime 100 times bigger then 9 11..C this hypocrisy is why everyone outside US, hates US...not cos ur rich or successful (thats fox news opinion)..they hate u because ur govt is full of double dealing basterds, who invade iraq for thr oil, lying to the world about WMDs, terrorism.
so you went to afghanistan and spent lots of resources (and killed lots of innocent people btw, but i guess that's not important) on finding some man, so that after 10 years you could kill him, i say well done us gov. you really are smart, besides by doing so you managed to spark (rightful i,d dare to say) outrage throughout so called "terrorists".
seems like the us doesn't have a real strategy and just acts by impulse, like the illegal murder attempt on ghadafi, which is an act of idiocy and i
What's up with all that "we spent so many blabla on one guuuuy"
No, you didn't?! UN state-building in Afghanistan is nowhere near done. Afghanistan is central to the whole area. We (I'm German and referring to every nation involved in UNAMA and ISAF) cannot leave now. This job isn't finished. This mission is for the Afghani people. Not only for your justice.
The us have been getting their ass kicked for 10 years by the Taliban. This is a war they will never win, it's time to wrap it up and save whatever young lives are left.
the afghan campaign has very little to do with al qaueda even taliban mostly the mission im afraid is not complete i would love to get out but we got in we got to get out the real way
i'm personally on the fence with this issue. now that Usama Bin Laden IS dead, should we leave considering that he was the one we went after in the first place? or now that we have waged a war on Terrorism should we stay? considering that he is not the only one who leads terrorism? any ideas?
@MYTHECIES No, he had UN permission to do that, so it is not a "war crime". Second, Gaddafis son is just like Saddam's lovely former sons. He even said that if he had nuclear weapons he would wipe Switzerland off the map, threatening one of the most peaceful countries. Seems like a nice kid.
u know in america the public thinks its all black and white when its grey marines have murdered hundreds possibly thousands of people not all are intellianel but some are just like al queida. in war both sides have bad issues.
Leave these countries alone. Keep yourselves to yourselves and maybe the world won't hate you so much.
TheMaster47x 4 weeks ago
“He fired at it [the baby] with a .45. He missed. We all laughed. He got up three or four feet closer and missed again. We laughed. Then he got up right on top and plugged him.”
(Source)
Peers Inquiry: Report of the Department of the Army Review of the Preliminary Investigations into the My Lai Incident
lesdoyle2000 7 months ago
Jesus christ, the public thinks we shouldn't be in afghanistan. Most of those people have never been there and they are truly tyrannical for trying to say what's best for people in foreign countries.
USparatroopersurgeon 7 months ago
we should stay cause as soon as we leave its gonna go right back to what orginally was.
luckycharmz1166 7 months ago
If the U.S. doesn't leave Afghanistan, it'll end up like the Soviet Union.
Flag1898 7 months ago
Oil wars cost US $4 trillion and counting.
(source)
Wall Street Journal “Wars to Leave $4 Trillion Hole in US Budget” 30 Jun 2011
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
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When America nuked the two Japanese cities they killed 140,000+ innocent people. Another 2 million died in the next 5 years. They have bombed civilians of
Chile in 1973, and killed 50,000
Vietnam war and killed millions
N. Korea and killed? millions
Libya in 1987 and killed 15,000
Iraq and have killed over a million
Afghanistan and have? killed 300,000
palestine and killed millions
They disregard human life for victory.
Yet their acts are not terrorism?
afgzz4life 8 months ago
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Drownedinblood 8 months ago
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lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 The Taliban were harbouring Al Qaeda which is why America invaded Afghanistan. The Taliban wouldn't hand Bin Laden over. Bin Laden had been in Afghanistan since the Soviet War. The Taliban and Al Qaeda are two seperate groups but are virtually the same in ideology. One is just smarter and wealthier than the other. US did not control Al Qaeda what the hell are you talking about?
oodlesofosz 8 months ago
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lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
1.
The Taliban were formed in 1995 when 30 Talibs (students) with only 16 guns rescued rescued 2 girls from a warlord who were being gang raped.
1996 When the Taleban took power in Afghanistan it was orchestrated the US oil company Unocal.
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Peter Dale Scott “Al Qaeda, U.S. Oil Companies, and Central Asia.” July 30, 2005
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 Wrong. Ever heard of the Afghan Civil War (96-01)? The Taliban were formed after the Russians left in 1989, there was a civil war, with different factions within Afghanistan fighting for control of the country. The Taliban emerge in the 1990s as one of these factions after differing ideas within the Mujahideen. This resulted in the Civil War between the extremist Taliban and the more democratic, United Front led by Ahmad Shah Massoud. I don't care for silly conspiracy theories.
oodlesofosz 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 The US had nothing to do with the Taliban coming to power. If you must blame another country for the formation of the Taliban you must blame Pakistan. Pakistan encouraged and supported th Taliban during its formation in the belief that it would be more stable for Pakistani oil distribution pipes Pakistan wanted to run through Afghanistan. Believe it or not but the US are not the only country that likes oil.
oodlesofosz 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 Sudan was bombed because it was suspected that the pharmaceutical factory was developing chemical weapons by bin Laden & al-Zawahiri who were responsible for the 1998 US embassy bombings in East Africa.
The Taliban made themselves an enemy when they refused to hand bin Laden over. The US are not occupying Saudi Arabia; bin Laden couldn't care less about Iraqis, he just wanted an excuse to be mad at the US; bin Laden doesn't care about Palestine.
oodlesofosz 8 months ago
@oodlesofosz
You left out one word
"wrongly" suspected
Wrong like the allegations Iraq had WMD's
"We got it wrong" Colin Powell
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 I didn't deny that. That wasn't the topic at hand.
oodlesofosz 8 months ago
2.
Following the Soviet Collapse in 1991 several new nations in Central Asia are created. Major US oil companies, including Exxon Mobil, Texaco, Unocal, BP Amoco, Shell, and Enron bribe heads of state to secure the oil in these regions. These oil fields have an estimated $20 trillion. The problem is getting the oil out. The best route is through Afghanistan.
Al Qaeda were used in Turkmenistan Uzbekistan Bosnia and Kosovo to gain US influence for US oil Companies.
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
3.
1996 May 15 Maj Gen Elfatih Erwa, (Sudan Minister of Defence) offered to extradite Bin Laden to US. US officials said let him go to Afghanistan. Sudan asked bin Laden to vacate the country. Is Bin Laden a CIA operative? Two years later the US bombed Sudan supposedly because the Sudanese government was allied with bin Laden. (172)
The Sudan attack destroyed a pharmaceutical factory, which the US falsely said was making chemical weapons.
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
4.
The Taliban do not care about US and are only interested in Afghanistan.
Osama who fronted a group called "International Islamic Front For Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders" released a statement in 1997 with 3 reasons for being against US all are true.
1. US occupying Saudi Arabia.
2. US and Israel killing 1 million Iraqi’s and destroying the strongest arab state.
3. US serving Israel and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region to cause disunion and weakness.
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago 2
USA was in afghanistan to destroy Al Qaida and the Taleban. So it was NATO and Afghanistan vs. Terrorist. NATO lost the war ( once again )
TheBestMilkku 8 months ago
@TheBestMilkku
In most countries terrorists are usually labelled terrorists after they do terrorist acts.
America calls anybody who they don't like a terrorist.
The Taliban have never committed a terrorist act.
America invaded for US oil companies and banks.
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@lesdoyle2000 the taleban were supporting terrorists. so they were basically terrorists. plus i didn't say that was the only reason why usa was there.
TheBestMilkku 8 months ago
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lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 as i said the terrorists are not the only reason. learn to read before calling other people names. idiot.
TheBestMilkku 8 months ago
2001 Sep 16 Taliban agree to All US Demands. The meeting of Taliban and US gov representatives in the city of Quetta, Pakistan. Afghan-US businessman Kabir Mohabbat serves as a middleman. Mohabbat claims that the Taliban agrees to all the demands but when the US are told they say “the train has moved”
CBS News 9/25/2001 “Secret Meeting Between US and taliban officials”
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 if its 'secret meeting' how can you know about it? look i've heard ALOT of these stupid stories. believe me. i have heard about the 9/11, the moonlanding in -69 about osamas death etc etc.. and most of these are stupid. like yours. it might be true, but lately i've heard so many i really don't believe them anymore.my opinion why the us was there is to fight terrorism ( al qaida and taleban) and maybe to get some oil.
TheBestMilkku 8 months ago
@TheBestMilkku
Yeah that sounds right.
I guess it is better to have dumbfuck rednecks dieing and making some oil execs rich rather than collecting welfare. What's the latest estimates on the oil wars? It was $3 trillion in 98 before the troop surge so it is probably over $4 trillion now
2010 Ray R. Irani: CEO of Occidental Petroleum is paid $76.1 mill
2010 Rex Tillerson CEO of Exxon was only paid $27.2 mill
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 wtf does this have to do with my comment??
TheBestMilkku 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 OMG!! i was talking about the reasons why usa send their troops to afghanistan! what does this have to do with it??
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1998 Feb 12 John Maresca of Unocal tells congress that to access the $20 trillion in Caspian Sea oil the only possible route is a pipeline across Afghanistan. To build this pipeline US needs regime change in Afghanistan to appease bankers and Unocal. (149)
Congressional Record 12 Feb 1998
How many barrels is a dead marine worth?
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 I think that's a little bit too much conspiracy for rationality. However, Americans do love the words terrorist and socialist.
EddyBearr 7 months ago
@EddyBearr
I think communist has been replaced by terrorist to decribe whoever US is at war with and anybody who gets killed is labelled an insurgent.
The funniest part is US media can no longer be trusted to tell the truth. Even the reporter who was leaked WMD lies by Cheney is still working. Amazing.
lesdoyle2000 7 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 Really dumbass?!!! Then why the fuck aren't my gas prices going down? Why the fuck do I pay so much fucking money?
You are an idiot who believes what the media says. People like you are the reason why posterity will think we lost Vietnam and the middle east.
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Following the Soviet Collapse in 1991 several new nations in Central Asia are created. US oil companies bribe heads of state to secure the oil in these regions. These oil fields have an estimated $20 trillion. The problem is getting the oil out.
The only viable route is through Afghanistan.
(SOURCE)
New Yorker “The Price of Oil“ Seymour Hersh 9 Jul 2001
lesdoyle2000 7 months ago
Going to Afghanistan was never about Osama Bin Laden & I don't think we're
going to leave unless we run out of a GAS MONEY !
massimo38 8 months ago
@massimo38
Your right
Todays news
GDP of Afghanistan was only $27 billion in 2010, according to the CIA factbook.
$11.6 billion is the US cost for funding the Afghanistan Defence Force.
CNN “Troop drawdown won't stop spending machine” 22 Jun 2011
Even the Taliban approve that industry.
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
obama intends on staying in afghanistan to be another player in the 70 billion annual drug heroin trade that he has allowed to flourish. just as in russia when they were there . he will continue to lie to the american public stating that we cam make some kind of humanitarian progress fighting against the taliban that wanted to irradicate the heroin trade. in a country that is so impoverish the taliban are no threat to us. we should be involved with mexico and their drug war if anything.
tomludwig1 8 months ago
america is in afghanistan for the mineral wealth and to destroy pakistan
ayubk001 9 months ago
no we shouldnt! they still have opium and oil left- and they dont have all our freedoms yet.
how could we leave?
UrSoMeanBoss 9 months ago
@UrSoMeanBoss
What freedoms do US still have?
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 Well- the US has freedom of speech (somewhat) and still a right to bare arms (in some places) and also freedom of the press (rarely but its there)
UrSoMeanBoss 8 months ago
@UrSoMeanBoss
Thanks for the laughs and the honest answer.
lesdoyle2000 8 months ago
@lesdoyle2000 =) ur welcome
UrSoMeanBoss 8 months ago
Well it took the US like 15 years from they placed him on their top ten most wanted terrorists untill they caught him, go home, good job, it will just take too much time to find the rest of them lol
Delcaroll 9 months ago
are all humbug! BIN LADEN CIA work for many years, so it makes a lot of information which knew that the U.S. government did not suit him alive, it was somewhat disturbing to them, they killed him! then who did? that planned? and that there lies behind the American government? sought an excuse, people believe them, their nation and the world, who avenged all killed on September 11th!
crokis09 9 months ago
bin laden satelite images, compond video and head shot found at . cashcow.co.cc
WARNING GRAPHIC.
shadough4747 9 months ago
wow did it really cost 1.3 trillion to catch bin laden?
Blazerelf 9 months ago
@TheBipolarGemini You are totally messed up.
Fulscript 9 months ago
TYT, you guys are possibly the stu.... wait no.... you guys are most definately the stupidest leftist idiots in the entire world... just because osama MAY be dead (he isn't dead at all actually but all that aside) doesn't make the problem any less serious. okay, so the leader of the terrorists is gone, now they have no direction and just kill anyone and anything to prove a point...
you are stupid, there is no way we should come home.
MasterBlaid 10 months ago
Of cooouuurrrrrse we should leave Afghanistan!
lborolfe 10 months ago
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shadough4747 10 months ago
osama is fucking innocent
fuck cia bush and gop
rbl777 10 months ago
Is that an incentive to vote? Bring 'em home, no need to help people who don't, won't or will ever know the concept of democracy nor will they ever raise their heads above the 7th century. Good for them, let them live that way & the next time a slime ball attacks america in that manner keep the troops home and send in the nukes.
hombrelubinero 10 months ago
I LOST MY SISTER IN THIS POINTLESS WAR!
BRING OUR TROOPS HOME!
iNeedAVeapun 10 months ago 28
@iNeedAVeapun call the white house about them bringing soldiers back or convincing they need to be back. ill give you there number but in a messege
theunknown117 9 months ago
@iNeedAVeapun pointless? what if that terrorist would have killed something more than one sister if the troops were not taken to that "pointless war"?
Blazerelf 9 months ago
@Blazerelf
Our troops are dying, the war in Afghan is OVER, Osama is DEAD!
You don't understand how we feel ok, we lost our loved ones. Now bring our troops home!
iNeedAVeapun 9 months ago
@iNeedAVeapun im sorry to hear that man, noghting can be said that would make anyone feel better even if the troops come home.
theHedgex1 9 months ago
@iNeedAVeapun I'm sorry for the loss of your sister; however we've all suffered losses in the middle east and those troops who were there would not want to leave. They all know what they're fighting for, not the public.
I knew a guy who went to Iraq, he was a machine gunner in the US army. When asked whether we should leave, he said not to believe what the media says and that we're doing good there.
He was killed by a sniper a couple months later, shot through the neck.
USparatroopersurgeon 7 months ago
Sometimes I like Cenks opinions, but damn this time hes just as illiterate as everyone else is. No shit he wasn't in Iraq or Afghanistan, we knew that from the start.
neills 10 months ago
@Newenlightenmentnow How did you get Pwned well lets see-5000 americans died, you spent over a trilion dollars(your country is already 14 trillion in debt), and than the real kicker is you find out that iraq had no wmd's and bin laden wasnt in either of those countrys, BITCHES GOT PWNED BIG TIME- Oh and as for your comment about canada have you analyzed my country lately, actually wait take one dollar and try to be one dollar canadian- well give your punk as 94 cents. PWNED BIG TIME SON
phillybluntsj 10 months ago
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Firstly USA said. OSAMA killed in TORA BORA hills in Afghanistan , then USA said OSAMA killed due to kidney disease.
now this is game plan of USA to come and operation in PAk american ppl are fools and stupid they beleive wahtever media and their government tells them!!!! this is all for obama campagne and attacks in pak,,!!! OSAMA HAS BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS WAKEUP PEOPLE!
MrRwpsit 10 months ago
Yeah let's get the fuck out of there. Let them know, that freedom is in their own hands. They can either follow the ways of the enlightenment or continue with their ancient desert fairy tale. However leave them with a stern warning that if it happens again, we will beat the shit out of them again and how every long it takes until they get the message.
Newenlightenmentnow 10 months ago
Mission Accomplished? BAHAHAHAH Fuck americans are stupid. The only thing you did was weaken your country- bahaah you clowns couldnt beat turban heads with rocks wtf are you going to do against RUSSIA ababba USA=PWNED bow down bitches bow down
phillybluntsj 10 months ago
@phillybluntsj How the fuck did we get PWNED cocksucker? We could wipe Russia off the face of the map. Your country is so technologically backwards that you couldn't even rescue your own trapped sailors when you had a submarine accident. Your country is laughable. Someone should smash your head open with a sledge hammer so we can see if your head actually contains a brain.
Newenlightenmentnow 10 months ago
@Newenlightenmentnow Don't try to invade Russia, man. They will just retreat until the winter comes, then sit back and drink vodka, while you and your equipment are turning into ice qubes. Like they do every fucking time someone tries to invade.
AngeCord 10 months ago
@AngeCord Whatever this guy is a fucking moron.
Newenlightenmentnow 10 months ago
i prefer osama bin laden to USA anyday. bloody war mongering country
garizable 10 months ago
u think USA came to war in afghanistan for so many years just to catch osama? really! how lame can you get. it wants to grip this part of asian region in its claws...to creat a balance of power with china..thats hwy its butting in asian summits held in east asia. i am not saying thats the only reason. but osama is just an excuse man!
garizable 10 months ago
bring our boys home!! and FUCKING NUKE IRAQ we'll leave with a bang not with the death of bin laden
freashboy15 10 months ago
@freashboy15 why don't we nuke faggots like you
peoplz360 10 months ago
@peoplz360 what the fuck is wrong with u!!?
your in the united states faggot get on my side or die like the pussy bin laden!
freashboy15 10 months ago
no I'm with our pres the one you guys put in office, we stay Obama's right. I really like his bogus BC he put on his web site to convince all those that voted for him that he really was born in US, that's priceless
silentmajor 10 months ago
wake up!!! Bin Laden isn't dead and he was never the mastermind terrorist. he actually agreed to be named as scapegoat so the whole plan would go off without a hitch. Now his plastic surgery is complete, he can go on living the life of a multi-rich man. What? Unbelievable you say? When you've been eating up everything you hear? I hope there's help 4 U on the horizon.
2020artstart 10 months ago
Should we leave? -- Yes! Will we leave? - Well, you'll have to ask Haliburton. They are calling the shots.
Davetech23 10 months ago
-------------------> MESSAGE FROM 9/11 VICTIMS
Death is very bad
Dearh by murder is even worse
But FAR WORSE is when you are murdered by your own nation's military in order to carry out a plan to commit genocide and heinous destruction of tens of millions of peole who never harmed us. NOT IN OUR NAMES.
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hibernate1908 10 months ago
No we can't leave, we need to make it our 53rd State NOW!!!
Besides, they've got the best drugs, and we've got to keep that "war on drugs" going.
yourtreat2 10 months ago
Your fucking stupid
Disolves 10 months ago
What a bunch of hypocrites. 3000 americans die = world goes crazy.
100000 afghans die = not a single fuck was given
16000 africans die per day = once again, not a single fuck was given
therefore we can estimate that:
1 American life = 1000 Afghan lives = 10000000 African lives
cssftw100 10 months ago 16
@cssftw100 How do you give a fuck?
porvort 10 months ago
@porvort perhaps showing some concern?? 3000 ppl died, world goes crazy. Don't you think that if 1000 000 ppl died, the world should go 300x more crazy?
cssftw100 10 months ago
@cssftw100 I like how your acting like you really give 1000 fucks.
REDARMYAIRSOFT7 9 months ago
@REDARMYAIRSOFT7 UMAD?
cssftw100 9 months ago
@cssftw100 get some help young man
claton95 9 months ago
@claton95 I do not understand how I am sacrificing my mental capacity by illustrating the injustice in this world. Evidently you do not want to hold this fact as true, thus are questioning my sanity. Do you not see the bigger picture, little girl?
cssftw100 9 months ago
the best Of Course scene in TYT history
finchfonch 10 months ago
Yeah, we'll leave. Leave about new 25 bases there, lol.
Our government is most likely going to set up permanent military bases there with chain stores opening up around their major cities to support them. A springboard for our next "operation" (war).
Motionedout 10 months ago 2
@Motionedout I think you're right. There will be US military in Iraq and Afghanistan for decades.
ExiledHere 10 months ago
this dude is a moron. kill one dude, and everything is over. someone else already took his place
hint0122 10 months ago
This guy's dumb if he thinks that by killing one man, the mission is over. Al Qaeda is an organization. Say it with me Cenk: "An organization!"
iansheng 10 months ago
@iansheng it's not an organization, it's separate small groups inspired by a small elite. That was the problem, you catch one cell, that doesn't affect the other cells, because they wouldn't even know each other. Once you get the small elite, then the inspiration level dies off.
undrapeaunoir 10 months ago
thats BS. they will still keep fighting. someone else took his place
hint0122 10 months ago
Forgive my naivete, but why wasn't the plan from the start to only send small contingents of service members to Afghanistan (as opposed to tens of thousands).
quidproquo2004 10 months ago
Am I the only one who fervently is annoyed by/hates when Cenk goes "Of cooooooooooouuuuuuuurse"?
JamesSeiko 10 months ago
@JamesSeiko: Yup! You are.
Silberdachs 10 months ago
YES.LEAVE!NOOOW!!!
BellaMusical 10 months ago
As soon as the US and allies reached over 3000 dead civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan they became no better than Osama and they beat that number by 10s of thousands.
erkziltonz 10 months ago
Question is that with Osama dead, will we stay in Iraq and Afghanistan? The answer? "OF COURSE!"
JessePrower 10 months ago
trillion with a T TRILLION!!!!
Johnwr61575 10 months ago
Team America: World Police.
kathyofrin 10 months ago
Should never have gone there, then all those innocent people that got killed in the war would be alive, all those dead soldiers would be alive. I mean common?? fucking stupid.. Ok he's dead.. what now?
trapedd 10 months ago
@trapedd people talk about the 3000 american soldiers, how about the 1.5 million iraqis? That's a big number isn't it...
undrapeaunoir 10 months ago
@undrapeaunoir Indeed, and i completely agree.
trapedd 10 months ago
how many of those were killed by their fellow iraqis?
hint0122 10 months ago
the heroin addicts of the world don't approve.
crypticnivek 10 months ago
They're not gonna leave Afghanistan or Iraq... there will always be an excuse for being there...
Konman91316 10 months ago
@Konman91316 They will leave, not completly. Then they will attack Qhaddafi and then take down Hugo Chavez is my guess.
trapedd 10 months ago
love seeing cenk back in the studio
HomerSimpsonIsTheMa 10 months ago
Yes and use the resources to fight the drug war in Mexico, since you know they're not gonna just let the military rest and do nothing.
blackknight509 10 months ago
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The United Stated brought hell on Earth to the citizens of Afghanistan, we should 1st figure out how to do right by them. Then again the USA has never cared really bout the people in other countries as we fumble around Cater Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 never gave shit about the Afghans, Obama probably doesn't either or he would have put a boot in Karzi's corrupt ass.
5lkk 10 months ago
The United Stated brough hell on Earth to the citizens of Afghanistan, we should 1st figure out how to do right by them. Then again the USA has never cared really bout the people in other countries as we fumble around Cater Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 never gave shit about the Afghans, Obama probably doesn't either or he would have put a boot in Karzi's corrupt ass.
5lkk 10 months ago
No look the story is all his followers communicated on the afghan/Pakistan border so majority are in Pakistan I say we stay cuz if you kill the CEO of mcdonalds are all mcdonalds going to go away hell does it send a message yes will mcdonalds want revenge probably and if we keep them occupied we won't let them get revenge
culverizedzebra 10 months ago
@culverizedzebra Then again the revenge may already be on it's way from a place other than Afghanistan. Taking advantage of we being occupied, keeping some else occupied.
5lkk 10 months ago
pull all troops, no. 80% yes.
bradsam 10 months ago
The interactive transcript is fucking hilarious.
bamboo4tameshigiri 10 months ago
"He was in Pakistan"
Sorry Cenk, the transcribed audio says he wasn't.
BigManInCanada 10 months ago
No, we shouldn't leave now. We should have never gone.
Shadus13 10 months ago
The closed captions are awesome.
gamingsoul11 10 months ago
someone make a video of all of cenks of courses, or at least a bunch of them. i forget and dont have time
dralezero 10 months ago
why is the US so terrible at waging wars? lol.
USA=fail military.
spends 1.28 trillion in a couple of 3rd world countries with armies that couldn't capture Antarctica from the penguins
redryan20000 10 months ago
reductions in july?? noooooooooo! :(
dominic970 10 months ago
Great to see Cenk back at the TYT desk. But he did do a good job for MSNBC.
ZSoul55 10 months ago
seal team 6 should be given a huge parade for giving us the best reason to pull out of that place and start healing the economy.
tyrannosaurusinf14 10 months ago
i laughed my ass off at 0:10. I said it with him... and it was grand
ChrisTripp 10 months ago
I love how Cenk says "of course!" It's so funny! :)
iplaydrumsnguitar 10 months ago
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I think they stay little bit more time to settle all completly
terrorist might get more agressive because of the death of their leader and might try and get revenge
i rather get some of the loose ends out before another 9/11 repeats itself
thumbs up if you agree
theprotectshade 10 months ago
I think they stay little bit more time to settle all completly
terrorist might get more agressive because of the death of their leader and might try and get revenge
i rather get some of the loose ends out before another 9/11 repeats itself
thumbs up if you agree
theprotectshade 10 months ago
i swear if americans are not going to start leaving afghanistan next week, im gonna blow up another wtc
fuck off yankis go home
leave the world alone
rbl777 10 months ago
@rbl777 Idiot. -_-
VictimOfBoredom 10 months ago
What a foolish thing for Cenk to say. Despite whether or not you believe we should've gone to war in those two countries in the first place, why does the death of bin laden mean we just leave? We weren't really there to just find that guy and go. Osama bin laden was like 5% of the reason we were over there. Yes us going to Iraq and Afghanistan has also caused much much of the insurgency just by attacking them. But now that we started it, we finish it.
noodles297 10 months ago
@noodles297 who the fuk hired you to be the policemen of the world? and with no money?
how are u smarter than the blacks who raise children while they cant feed themselves?
get the fuck out buddy
rbl777 10 months ago
@noodles297 Finish it with Seal Team 6, not endless, expensive, occupation that only benefits big oil. Oh wait that's why we are there. Hope those Italian physicists are legit with their (derivative) cold-fusion claims. That would end big oil economic world domination. Its design is in multiple universities, and free.
birdsterboss 10 months ago
@noodles297 i think the fact that when reverend yosemite sam burned a quran and afghanis reacted by murdering innocent un staff members in their religious blood lust was the perfect example of why we have no hope of accomplishing anything there; they are a people still mired in extremist religious intolerance and any hope for democracy has to come from home grown movements, like the rest of the arab world.
tyrannosaurusinf14 10 months ago
Lol@ the subtitles
1995bimetalhead 10 months ago
What we should do is leave! But we should strengthen the he'll outta our security here. The MF'ers who did 9/11 didn't fly here from camel land they hijacked the shit here! The terrorists are here not there.
KingB704 10 months ago
The funny thing is he forgot to mention the 100000 afghans who died thr, and also about the million iraqies who died in iraq..Shall we sweep that under the carpet, or held somebody responsible (bush may be) for a war crime 100 times bigger then 9 11..C this hypocrisy is why everyone outside US, hates US...not cos ur rich or successful (thats fox news opinion)..they hate u because ur govt is full of double dealing basterds, who invade iraq for thr oil, lying to the world about WMDs, terrorism.
majesticmaniac 10 months ago 29
@majesticmaniac Thanks for telling Truth! Totally Appreciated
shadowofears 10 months ago
@majesticmaniac actually only a quarter of the number you gave died
StopEastPropaganda 10 months ago
If only that much money had been spent on health care... think of the lives we could have saved :/
Pollution122 10 months ago 13
an act of idiocy and ignorance in the field of diplomacy.
headbanger2510 10 months ago
so you went to afghanistan and spent lots of resources (and killed lots of innocent people btw, but i guess that's not important) on finding some man, so that after 10 years you could kill him, i say well done us gov. you really are smart, besides by doing so you managed to spark (rightful i,d dare to say) outrage throughout so called "terrorists".
seems like the us doesn't have a real strategy and just acts by impulse, like the illegal murder attempt on ghadafi, which is an act of idiocy and i
headbanger2510 10 months ago
I want the real come on back.
THAT1UMMAH 10 months ago
While we're leaving, can we put in a fucking Marshall Plan for Afghanistan to disfavor the fucking Taliban for the people??
Is that not the most obvious thing to do there??? Or even to have done that 20 YEARS AGO?!?!
cleanhomer 10 months ago
ya but there going to rebeal so if we leave were screwd
wellse0790 10 months ago
What's up with all that "we spent so many blabla on one guuuuy"
No, you didn't?! UN state-building in Afghanistan is nowhere near done. Afghanistan is central to the whole area. We (I'm German and referring to every nation involved in UNAMA and ISAF) cannot leave now. This job isn't finished. This mission is for the Afghani people. Not only for your justice.
reeft 10 months ago
The us have been getting their ass kicked for 10 years by the Taliban. This is a war they will never win, it's time to wrap it up and save whatever young lives are left.
fishonegg 10 months ago
"wrapt it up" lol giggitty!
extrapressure 10 months ago
These subtitles are fucked up, who writes these? Do they even hear what's going on? Did the special ed class get the project?
alchron 10 months ago
Cenk says OFFFCOOOURRRSEE!! and the subtitle says hole? wtf HAHAHA!
tupacthug4life 10 months ago
the afghan campaign has very little to do with al qaueda even taliban mostly the mission im afraid is not complete i would love to get out but we got in we got to get out the real way
Nick96429 10 months ago
abso freaking lutely
hou12396 10 months ago
To all those that follow Obama it's about time you stop licking his ass & open your eyes.
MYTHECIES 10 months ago
i'm personally on the fence with this issue. now that Usama Bin Laden IS dead, should we leave considering that he was the one we went after in the first place? or now that we have waged a war on Terrorism should we stay? considering that he is not the only one who leads terrorism? any ideas?
theimpossiblepuzzle1 10 months ago
Lol the subtitles were very off...
NerdboiisAfroMan 10 months ago
The answer is yes without looking. Yes we should leave.
Trickishismael360 10 months ago
Of coooooouuurse!
sweetkellygirl 10 months ago
If America doesn't leave the middle east soon I'm leaving this fucking country...
adam120890 10 months ago
Just because he's dead doesn't mean we have all the oil yet, silly!
Saaduk92 10 months ago
You are a prick.
jimisback 10 months ago
I'd say stay a little longer to protect the citizens from taliban, else they'll strike again like when they did after russia left
KingUw 10 months ago
Osama's death for the 10th time was to cover up Obama's murderous attack on 3 grandchildren under 12 & the youngest son of Gaddafi, a WAR CRIME.
MYTHECIES 10 months ago
@MYTHECIES No, he had UN permission to do that, so it is not a "war crime". Second, Gaddafis son is just like Saddam's lovely former sons. He even said that if he had nuclear weapons he would wipe Switzerland off the map, threatening one of the most peaceful countries. Seems like a nice kid.
acdc30450 10 months ago
@acdc30450
how did you get the idea that the UN now runs the World?? Only someone with a twisted deranged ignorant brain could think that
genie0390 10 months ago
@MYTHECIES
Lol dumb ass.
mecher3k 10 months ago
Of course. The Taliban isn't even in Afghanistan anymore. Hell, Osama was in Pakistan! It's a no brainer.
Ardenwolfe 10 months ago
u know in america the public thinks its all black and white when its grey marines have murdered hundreds possibly thousands of people not all are intellianel but some are just like al queida. in war both sides have bad issues.
THEOWNEROFNOTHING345 10 months ago
The end of terrorism is when America stops doing it.
DameunPutazo 10 months ago 20