Can a us engineer answer a norwegian engineer this, can a dpu locomotive apply brakes or refill the main brakeline (to release brakes)? Here the whole brakeline must be filled from the frontmost loco where the driver sits.
maybeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,there will be longer trains in the future veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery nice,i also tried this in my ho scale until now,its still running every now and then..........
Oh yeah and the stopping was supposedly tested and was "within acceptable parameters" to me that means it stopped. I would say it could stop rather quickly, most containers headed west are empties or light loads returning to the port and with locos every 99 cars or so the brakes would apply much faster than your average 110 car coal train with just head end power. It should stop just like a 50 car train since the brakes set in both directions from all locos.
295 cars and 9 locos all GE ES44AC's or as UP calls them C45ACCTE meaning GE, 4400hp ac traction motors, controlled tractive effort programming. I dont think UP will ever be able to run this size train on a regular schedule from what I have heard it took some serious talks to get it run once, they worded it as an experiment in train handling with multiple sets of unmanned DPU's to test the ablilities of the systems. awful cool to see though.
@502nuts BNSF and UP are running some big trains, but I haven't seen any more of this size. All in all though, these big trains are no longer that unusual.
@roweman2 well you counted 285, 592nuts counted 295, I counted 292, I think that this is an imposible thing to count, you just can't keep your eyes focused!
@Pendragon1989, not as long as one might think. When you apply the brakes they start applying from all the locomotives. And since there are 9 locomotives throughout the train the air sets rather quickly.
@Pendragon1989 Need a little more info to answer your question. How fast was the train going when the brakes were applied? Downhill or uphill? How fast did the engineer want to stop? In other words...are you asking about an emergency application of brakes or normal stopping distance? Do we assume dry weather as in this photo? Once those questions are answered it's possible to make an educated estimate.
I counted 396 cars, hot damn! After staring at those cars passing by for so long my monitor looked like it was waving up and down like in one of those optical illusions. BRB, gotta get cataract surgery.
I like this. And in addition to having displaced locomotives pulling/pushing the train while in motion, it also helps coming to rest. Controlled consistent action.
@admydragon Sure they could assemble it, our signal blocks just aren't long enough... Unless you run your train in two signal blocks at once continuously...
@msharmsen Maybe you have never seen locomotives in the MIDDLE of a train...but then again you did not see this train. Or many others that operate with this type of distributed power.
Just because you have not seen it does not mean that it does not happen. And it does.
This train and several others similar to it have been handled via BNSF and UP and most/all of them had power in the middle of the consist.
The locomotives in the middle and back are distributive power units. With current technology, locos not attached to the first engine can now be controlled by the conductor at the front of the train by use of computers.
The more locomotives you put at the front of a long train, the more strain there is on the couplers and the greater the risk of breaking the train apart. By distributing them semi-equally throughout the train, there is a less likely chance of the train tearing apart.
@alladinmoua true to some extent although some of these trains are not all that heavy. However, another advantage of mid consist power is that they can broken up quickly. Some of these big trains are not brought all the way in to the port in this length. The trains are broken up out in the desert based on the position of the mid consist units.
@Boss302fan Thanks for the reply. I wanted to write more in the last comment but I couldn't because of the character restriction. Also, since I was explaining the concept of the DPUs to a non-railfan, I felt that I had to simplify it to the best of my capability in order not to confuse him/her.
In my reply to msharmsen's comment, I decided to focus on how DPUs reduce drawbar stress on the cars of a train because I'm a HUGE Southern Pacific fan and I loved their use of helpers in the mountains.
@alladinmoua You summarized it quite well. A train is only as strong as the strength of the drawbar pulling the most train weight. I've seen many instances when drawbars are just simply pulled out of the car. Normally this is do to "train handling" and not overall train weight.
I never worked in the mountain district on UP (SP) but I've talked with many who have. Amazing terrain.
@THR33STEP I counted 314(not counting the locomotives), and now my eyes are messed up. Pretty sure if they had one of their Big Boys still operational they could have had it in the middle replacing the four diesels, or at the front replacing all but one diesels. I've heard that one Big Boy could pull a loaded five and a half mile long train on level ground.
@soulbrother61 Nicest part about being a Yank is that we stopped caring about what the self-important citizens of the UK think of us around 250 years ago. Now true I have many friends in the UK. And true my dad did spend a great deal of his life in the UK protecting you guys from your European neighbors. And damn you guys brew good beer and make good music. But this whole 'better than the rest of the world' attitude should be out of your system by now.
@Boss302fan hey brother chill..it's good humour and not directed at anybody, it's just when you think of America you think, fat ass cop doughnuts and hotdogs, hey who else would order a Double decker triple cheeseburger, all the trimmings, a mega bucket of fries and a DIET COKE, as for the war it was nearly over by the time the "great" u.s.a got here..anyway i enjoyed the clip my freind...sure is a long train
@soulbrother61 That's another thing about the UK I love. You guys can laugh. You need to do that to make life fun. Stereotypes can get you in trouble though. Americans and Canadians view those from England as stuck up pompous judgemental assholes. :> But when you travel you realize we're all people. Hang on...excuse me. Had to take a bite of a doughnut. My dad spent a year and a half flying out of the UK...so almost over is relative. Take care man. Buy you a pint next September
@Boss302fan So you yanks view the English as stuck up pompous assholes do you, good job i'm Scottish then eh!, anyway you must admit that you yanks just love blowing your own trumpets always to the extreme biggest houses, biggest cars, tallest buildings,biggest steaks, so why when it comes to biggest guts and fattest asses should you complain? hey i don't want an arguement mate it was just an off the cuff comment that seems to have offended you...just go easy on the mayo that should do it
@soulbrother61 actually I'm about as unoffended as it comes. One of the nice things about being a "yank" is that we usually do not give a shit what people think about us. (Sometimes that is not such a good thing). As far as mayo is concerned...I'll pass. But a good beer with fish and chips. I'm in! LOL. And as I said, I'm back in the UK next year. That includes about 6 days in Scottland. Love the place.
@Boss302fan yeah well be sure to visit rabbie burns country it's nice up here(ayrshire) as is the highlands that is glencoe, fort william. oban, inverness nice up that way....hey look me up if your in Ayrshire, i'll buy you a beer
@soulbrother61 I'll never forget when a British WWII veteran told me what the people of Great Britain thought of Americans, "Over paid, over sexed and over here!"
So the Americans countered with this about you Brits, "under paid, under sexed and under Eisenhower!"
@soulbrother61 By the time the "great" USA got here, the Axis was still winning the war for another 8 months so I don't get where you say the war was nearly over; your Mr. Churchill (and after June 21, 1941 the same goes for Stalin and world-wide Communism) was doing all it good to get the US INTO the war and our Pres. Roosevelt did everything he could to help the UK before the bombing of Pearl Harbor; the way you're talking maybe that was a big mistake.
holy cow that must take forever to stop. My grandfather used to work on the Ontario Northland Railroad and he said their coal trains would take 30 miles to stop.
@ThickMcRunFast37 Uh...your grandfather either lied to you or you did not hear him right. A 15k ton train on the Ontario Northland (or any railroad) is going to take about a mile to a mile and a quarter to stop if it were going at a fairly high rate of speed.
@ThickMcRunFast37 OH, it could be over a mile. A 60mph 16000 ton train moving downhill can easily take a mile to stop. But 30 miles? No. He is either a great story teller or never ran a train in his life! :> Great railroad though. Good people.
@Boss302fan I work on the railway in scotland speed and principles much the same, stopping distance depends on the speed , weight and gradient but i would estimate this at 1 and a half to 2 mile on a 0 gradient considering the lenght , if it were on a steep downward gradient then your in trouble
@soulbrother61 I just spent 3 weeks in Scotland. Love the passenger service. In particular if beer is involved. You are over-estimating the stopping distance on this train. But not by a great deal.
... Wow... I don't know how they could be cutting jobs by running 1 test train that, to say the least, is impractical...not to say they aren't trying to cut jobs in other ways...
How would they run one in the opposite direction unless they went to double main track everywhere?... There aren't any sidings long enough for trains this long to meet to my knowledge.
@masterchiefgtx The train wasn't impractical and BNSF in particular is running multiple "supertrains" a week. This isn't a one time thing although this was definitely an 'exception'. There are definitely 'locations' where you can run in opposite directions (but we're not doing so). And of course these trains are run to attempt to reduce costs and keep trucks off of the highway. And if that means crew reductions or power consolidation that's the way it has to be
@Boss302fan Once again, I'm not aware of any 19,000 foot sidings for trains like this to meet... The longest siding in the 200 mile scretch I run on is only 11,000 feet.... After this train got West of Fort Worth there is no more double main track for this train to meet other trains of this length until it gets to El Paso...
That is a MONSTER !! This Iron Leviathan navigating California with all it's prohibitive curvature and gradient was a sight to see. Great Post !!! Great Catch !!! How often do see something like this !!! What was the this ? A transfer move to a nearby L.A. Port?
Cutting jobs? They can run a train right now with no driver on board. Union rules prevent this though. I do not believe they can stop them from adding trains togeather yet. It would be a bitch to stop if some poor schmo races the train.
@idarusskie Freights in North America are not currently equipped for "driverless" operation. It would take a massive investment and union or no union it's not going to happen for decades except in very specialized circumstances.
There is no 'they' who can stop "them" from adding trains together. I'm not even sure what you're talking about here. These long BNSF and UP trains are just that...long trains.
Where are all the GE haters? I didn't see any of the the tired old posts about GE vs EMD, EMD vs GE, etc. This was an all GE-powered (GEVO to be exact) monster train. I guess GE was up to the task and not "GE junk" like is posted so often. BTW, my favorite locos are EMD, so I'm definitely not biased. In any case, a very impressive train. Also,Quebec, Northshore & Labrador runs some of the longest and heaviest trains on the planet (along with BHP and Chemin de Fer Cartier). Awesome stuff, thanks.
Holy s- -t, thats one long train, railroad has just gotta be up there among the greenest ways to move freight around. Wonder how long it takes to stop!!!!
Ive been reading all these disagreements about who has the longest trains when the argument can be ended like this: As far as your general freight that hauls consumer goods go,then Union Pacific and other US railroads have the advantage.If we go into iron ore, which is a specialty haul,then yes Brazil and Australia has the advantage as that takes up a significant proportion of their rail freight hauls because that is a major export out of those countries.
@MOJONIXION Greedy corp trying to keep traffic on the rails and off the highways where incredibly competitive truckers are trying desparately to win it back. It is the railroad's job to lower freight rates billed to customers in order to maintain traffic levels. If that means longer trains and that is what it takes to maintain the business that is what they will do. I suppose the greedy managers could have just given up and let the trucks go over the highway.
@Boss302fan rail is better than inefficient trucking. It saves not only the company money but the consumer. Get you shit straight. There are far more fatalities caused by semi trucks and bad drivers than there are related to locomotive accidents.
@tehatemachine I am not sure what I wrote that you are disagreeing with. I've railroaded over 30 eyars and I damn well know both how trucks and rails work and compete against each other. No where in my post did I say anything against longer trains, and as I work in the port of LA I'm actually handling them on a daily basis. I am also one of the "greedy managers". I am all for long haul rail and short haul truck.
how many cars long?
crazytaxi1000 1 week ago
o.O
ANDREA89FG2 3 weeks ago
Can a us engineer answer a norwegian engineer this, can a dpu locomotive apply brakes or refill the main brakeline (to release brakes)? Here the whole brakeline must be filled from the frontmost loco where the driver sits.
randknu1 3 weeks ago
Oh my holy God, this IS train! I wont be there if it derails... How are the locos controlled? Radio connection?
BrouwerHungary 3 weeks ago
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@BrouwerHungary Well, I counted:
3 locos - 99 cars - 2 locos - 98 cars - 2 locos - 98 cars - 2 locos. Total: 9 locos, 295 cars.
3 cars carries only 1 nut, the others 2, so the total is 587 nuts.
One loco is 73 feet long, one car is about 45 feet, so the whole train set is about 2.9 miles long... If I counted well... :D
BrouwerHungary 3 weeks ago
@BrouwerHungary Yes, they were controlled via a wireless connection.
newcadet 3 weeks ago
maybeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,there will be longer trains in the future veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery nice,i also tried this in my ho scale until now,its still running every now and then..........
MultiGian1000 3 weeks ago
This is the longest train run by the UP? How many cars?
ajracer101 3 weeks ago
mmm I can imagine the anger of the car drivers... good looooooooooooooooooooong train IMPOSSIBLE to see such things here....
giudeppemario 3 weeks ago
Oh yeah and the stopping was supposedly tested and was "within acceptable parameters" to me that means it stopped. I would say it could stop rather quickly, most containers headed west are empties or light loads returning to the port and with locos every 99 cars or so the brakes would apply much faster than your average 110 car coal train with just head end power. It should stop just like a 50 car train since the brakes set in both directions from all locos.
502nuts 1 month ago
295 cars and 9 locos all GE ES44AC's or as UP calls them C45ACCTE meaning GE, 4400hp ac traction motors, controlled tractive effort programming. I dont think UP will ever be able to run this size train on a regular schedule from what I have heard it took some serious talks to get it run once, they worded it as an experiment in train handling with multiple sets of unmanned DPU's to test the ablilities of the systems. awful cool to see though.
502nuts 1 month ago
@502nuts BNSF and UP are running some big trains, but I haven't seen any more of this size. All in all though, these big trains are no longer that unusual.
Boss302fan 3 weeks ago
being the tool i am, i counted about 285 cars!
plus or minus a few
roweman2 1 month ago 3
@roweman2 well you counted 285, 592nuts counted 295, I counted 292, I think that this is an imposible thing to count, you just can't keep your eyes focused!
QKSBOTB2011 3 weeks ago
Nobody canna cross it!
Ajboi89 1 month ago 2
403 cars and engines give or take a few.
499669 1 month ago
looks like one of those moster 30,000 ft trains
nsglc1985 1 month ago
Now the real question is.. how long would it take this steel beast to come to a stop? Anyone feel free to PM me their guess :)
Pendragon1989 1 month ago
@Pendragon1989, not as long as one might think. When you apply the brakes they start applying from all the locomotives. And since there are 9 locomotives throughout the train the air sets rather quickly.
CrackBack1000 1 month ago
@Pendragon1989 Need a little more info to answer your question. How fast was the train going when the brakes were applied? Downhill or uphill? How fast did the engineer want to stop? In other words...are you asking about an emergency application of brakes or normal stopping distance? Do we assume dry weather as in this photo? Once those questions are answered it's possible to make an educated estimate.
Boss302fan 1 month ago
waw
SamuelSandres 1 month ago
The dude waiting in the car at the crossing is like...I'VE GOTTA PISS!!!!!!!
espeescotty 1 month ago
Anyone who are having insomnia can watch this video. Anyway,it's a cool video...
planecrush772 1 month ago
omg. what weigt? sorry for my english. im russian locomotive driver
maxyshka 1 month ago
I counted 396 cars, hot damn! After staring at those cars passing by for so long my monitor looked like it was waving up and down like in one of those optical illusions. BRB, gotta get cataract surgery.
drbackjack 1 month ago
how many coach are there ?
argoanggrek1 1 month ago
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MrDakns 1 month ago
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MrDakns 1 month ago
@argoanggrek1 around 300. The usually put 100 cars between two engines
MegaHelperman 1 month ago
@ dylan1094 if it's Fucking stupid and pointless then why are you watching trains then?! Dumbass!!!!!!
sad1eluvsme 2 months ago
Trains are fucking stupid and pointless!
dylan1094 2 months ago
@dylan1094 Especially when 1000 trucks clog the highway.
MrDakns 2 months ago
@dylan1094 Good luck carrying that by air.
dylanbobby1 2 months ago
@dylan1094 sort of like your post
Boss302fan 2 months ago
they are the proper way of moving things around just think of meating 1000 trucks on the highway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
trainguy98 2 months ago 8
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they are the proper way of moving things around, just think of meating 1000 trucks on the highway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
trainguy98 2 months ago
I like this. And in addition to having displaced locomotives pulling/pushing the train while in motion, it also helps coming to rest. Controlled consistent action.
buffaloditka 2 months ago
@buffaloditka Not to mention breaking the train up before they bring it into town.
Boss302fan 2 months ago
403 incl. engines
rawimpact 2 months ago
Very nice!
FK347 2 months ago 3
@FK347 thanks!
singwith 2 months ago
That size of train would be impossible in Canada.
admydragon 2 months ago
@admydragon Why? I guarantee Vancouver could handle it at the port. spent enough time there to know
Boss302fan 2 months ago
@admydragon Sure they could assemble it, our signal blocks just aren't long enough... Unless you run your train in two signal blocks at once continuously...
admydragon 2 months ago
502 CONTAINERS
TheDESECHABLE 2 months ago
I counted 306 or 307
wiganrlfcwigan 2 months ago
I am pretty sure the video is "spliced" after 100 cars. I have Never seen additional engines in the MIDDLE of a train. Lame guys, Lame.
msharmsen 2 months ago
@msharmsen Maybe you have never seen locomotives in the MIDDLE of a train...but then again you did not see this train. Or many others that operate with this type of distributed power.
Just because you have not seen it does not mean that it does not happen. And it does.
This train and several others similar to it have been handled via BNSF and UP and most/all of them had power in the middle of the consist.
Boss302fan 2 months ago 2
@msharmsen
The locomotives in the middle and back are distributive power units. With current technology, locos not attached to the first engine can now be controlled by the conductor at the front of the train by use of computers.
The more locomotives you put at the front of a long train, the more strain there is on the couplers and the greater the risk of breaking the train apart. By distributing them semi-equally throughout the train, there is a less likely chance of the train tearing apart.
alladinmoua 2 months ago
@alladinmoua true to some extent although some of these trains are not all that heavy. However, another advantage of mid consist power is that they can broken up quickly. Some of these big trains are not brought all the way in to the port in this length. The trains are broken up out in the desert based on the position of the mid consist units.
Boss302fan 2 months ago
@Boss302fan Thanks for the reply. I wanted to write more in the last comment but I couldn't because of the character restriction. Also, since I was explaining the concept of the DPUs to a non-railfan, I felt that I had to simplify it to the best of my capability in order not to confuse him/her.
In my reply to msharmsen's comment, I decided to focus on how DPUs reduce drawbar stress on the cars of a train because I'm a HUGE Southern Pacific fan and I loved their use of helpers in the mountains.
alladinmoua 2 months ago
@alladinmoua You summarized it quite well. A train is only as strong as the strength of the drawbar pulling the most train weight. I've seen many instances when drawbars are just simply pulled out of the car. Normally this is do to "train handling" and not overall train weight.
I never worked in the mountain district on UP (SP) but I've talked with many who have. Amazing terrain.
Have a good one.
Boss302fan 2 months ago
@alladinmoua The locomotive engineer controls the train, not the conductor
522549 1 month ago
@522549
Sorry about that.
alladinmoua 1 month ago
@THR33STEP I counted 314(not counting the locomotives), and now my eyes are messed up. Pretty sure if they had one of their Big Boys still operational they could have had it in the middle replacing the four diesels, or at the front replacing all but one diesels. I've heard that one Big Boy could pull a loaded five and a half mile long train on level ground.
Trainman2101 3 months ago
haha nice! . . good thing it wasnt traveling at 10MPH
jimmyjpeo 3 months ago
I count 616 containers
THR33STEP 3 months ago
I would hate to be the conductor who walks the train if it has a kicker.
THR33STEP 3 months ago
This is the coolest video I have ever seen.
glockzr1 3 months ago 3
@glockzr1 Thanks!
singwith 3 months ago
boy i hope no driver had to go to the bathroom or was late for work waiting for this train
MrZkr123 3 months ago
@MrZkr123 only 5 mins.
singwith 3 months ago
I live right in back of it it thosent let me sleep
Victorkillslosangele 3 months ago
@Victorkillslosangele I hear you. I don't want to live near the RR tracks even I love trains. :)
singwith 3 months ago
going with the average 60' per freight car, the train is 3.4 miles long.
100mpgus 3 months ago
@100mpgus That is a bad average for this type of freight car
Boss302fan 3 months ago
Yip large freight train that's for sure probably full of Doughnuts, Burgers and Bullshit for all those FAT ASS YANKS
soulbrother61 3 months ago
@soulbrother61 Nicest part about being a Yank is that we stopped caring about what the self-important citizens of the UK think of us around 250 years ago. Now true I have many friends in the UK. And true my dad did spend a great deal of his life in the UK protecting you guys from your European neighbors. And damn you guys brew good beer and make good music. But this whole 'better than the rest of the world' attitude should be out of your system by now.
Boss302fan 3 months ago
@Boss302fan hey brother chill..it's good humour and not directed at anybody, it's just when you think of America you think, fat ass cop doughnuts and hotdogs, hey who else would order a Double decker triple cheeseburger, all the trimmings, a mega bucket of fries and a DIET COKE, as for the war it was nearly over by the time the "great" u.s.a got here..anyway i enjoyed the clip my freind...sure is a long train
soulbrother61 3 months ago
@soulbrother61 That's another thing about the UK I love. You guys can laugh. You need to do that to make life fun. Stereotypes can get you in trouble though. Americans and Canadians view those from England as stuck up pompous judgemental assholes. :> But when you travel you realize we're all people. Hang on...excuse me. Had to take a bite of a doughnut. My dad spent a year and a half flying out of the UK...so almost over is relative. Take care man. Buy you a pint next September
Boss302fan 3 months ago
@Boss302fan So you yanks view the English as stuck up pompous assholes do you, good job i'm Scottish then eh!, anyway you must admit that you yanks just love blowing your own trumpets always to the extreme biggest houses, biggest cars, tallest buildings,biggest steaks, so why when it comes to biggest guts and fattest asses should you complain? hey i don't want an arguement mate it was just an off the cuff comment that seems to have offended you...just go easy on the mayo that should do it
soulbrother61 3 months ago
@soulbrother61 actually I'm about as unoffended as it comes. One of the nice things about being a "yank" is that we usually do not give a shit what people think about us. (Sometimes that is not such a good thing). As far as mayo is concerned...I'll pass. But a good beer with fish and chips. I'm in! LOL. And as I said, I'm back in the UK next year. That includes about 6 days in Scottland. Love the place.
Cheers.
Boss302fan 3 months ago
@Boss302fan yeah well be sure to visit rabbie burns country it's nice up here(ayrshire) as is the highlands that is glencoe, fort william. oban, inverness nice up that way....hey look me up if your in Ayrshire, i'll buy you a beer
soulbrother61 3 months ago
@soulbrother61 I'll never forget when a British WWII veteran told me what the people of Great Britain thought of Americans, "Over paid, over sexed and over here!"
So the Americans countered with this about you Brits, "under paid, under sexed and under Eisenhower!"
SatchmoSings 2 months ago
@soulbrother61 So you claim you're a Scot? Your national dish is haggis, no wonder you're such a douche!
SatchmoSings 2 months ago
@SatchmoSings SHUT IT FATSO, just you stick to yir burgers and fries LARD ASS
soulbrother61 2 months ago
@soulbrother61 By the time the "great" USA got here, the Axis was still winning the war for another 8 months so I don't get where you say the war was nearly over; your Mr. Churchill (and after June 21, 1941 the same goes for Stalin and world-wide Communism) was doing all it good to get the US INTO the war and our Pres. Roosevelt did everything he could to help the UK before the bombing of Pearl Harbor; the way you're talking maybe that was a big mistake.
Fuck you.
SatchmoSings 2 months ago
je zal maar staan te wachten voor de slagbomen
TheMisternoname 3 months ago
at 1:30 the camera was shaking omg
hwei87 4 months ago
@hwei87 Yea, my camera setting was not so good. I should have put my camera on the ground instead.
singwith 3 months ago
@singwith Well, I have to give you a lot of credit for holding the camera as still as you did for as long as you did since this train is so long.
SatchmoSings 2 months ago
@SatchmoSings I cheated. I used the tripod. :P
singwith 2 months ago
@singwith It's a great clip either way; thank you.
SatchmoSings 2 months ago
All this is saving millions on gas!!! 1 truck carrying 1, and 9 engines carring OVER 600!!!!
ThePPPTrainAndCarFan 4 months ago
I would be one pissed guy at that damn train crossing...
SolitaryNight 4 months ago
HOLY COW!! O_O
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UtubLurker 4 months ago
HOLY COW!! O_O
UtubLurker 4 months ago
good length
hearts76100 4 months ago
holy cow that must take forever to stop. My grandfather used to work on the Ontario Northland Railroad and he said their coal trains would take 30 miles to stop.
ThickMcRunFast37 4 months ago
@ThickMcRunFast37 Uh...your grandfather either lied to you or you did not hear him right. A 15k ton train on the Ontario Northland (or any railroad) is going to take about a mile to a mile and a quarter to stop if it were going at a fairly high rate of speed.
Boss302fan 4 months ago
@Boss302fan hmm, I probably misheard him but I'm quite positive that it was much longer than a mile. I'll have to ask him the next time I see him.
ThickMcRunFast37 4 months ago
@ThickMcRunFast37 OH, it could be over a mile. A 60mph 16000 ton train moving downhill can easily take a mile to stop. But 30 miles? No. He is either a great story teller or never ran a train in his life! :> Great railroad though. Good people.
Boss302fan 4 months ago
@Boss302fan this train is THREE 3 MILES LONG
dergrossen 3 months ago
@dergrossen Yes it is. What's your point?
Boss302fan 3 months ago
@Boss302fan I work on the railway in scotland speed and principles much the same, stopping distance depends on the speed , weight and gradient but i would estimate this at 1 and a half to 2 mile on a 0 gradient considering the lenght , if it were on a steep downward gradient then your in trouble
soulbrother61 3 months ago
@soulbrother61 I just spent 3 weeks in Scotland. Love the passenger service. In particular if beer is involved. You are over-estimating the stopping distance on this train. But not by a great deal.
Heading back over your way next fall. Can't wait.
Boss302fan 3 months ago
I counted 295 well cars.... Do you think the engineers brag about who's train is bigger? lol
ohiosouthern 4 months ago
holy crap!!! nice video!!
RailfanningRulez 4 months ago
... Wow... I don't know how they could be cutting jobs by running 1 test train that, to say the least, is impractical...not to say they aren't trying to cut jobs in other ways...
How would they run one in the opposite direction unless they went to double main track everywhere?... There aren't any sidings long enough for trains this long to meet to my knowledge.
masterchiefgtx 4 months ago
@masterchiefgtx The train wasn't impractical and BNSF in particular is running multiple "supertrains" a week. This isn't a one time thing although this was definitely an 'exception'. There are definitely 'locations' where you can run in opposite directions (but we're not doing so). And of course these trains are run to attempt to reduce costs and keep trucks off of the highway. And if that means crew reductions or power consolidation that's the way it has to be
Boss302fan 4 months ago
@Boss302fan Once again, I'm not aware of any 19,000 foot sidings for trains like this to meet... The longest siding in the 200 mile scretch I run on is only 11,000 feet.... After this train got West of Fort Worth there is no more double main track for this train to meet other trains of this length until it gets to El Paso...
masterchiefgtx 3 months ago
@masterchiefgtx I was referring to the entire run to Long Beach...not a stretch between FTW and ELP.
Boss302fan 3 months ago
For some reason I doubt this train went in the hole too many times...
masterchiefgtx 4 months ago
god dang.. 621 containers i belive.. ahah
arlingtontrains7 4 months ago
@arlingtontrains7 yea, something like 621 trucks. lol
singwith 4 months ago
I counted 293 not including the engines.
Flyboy3245 4 months ago
Just imagine the Level Crossings, 4 minutes waiting for that thing to go by
TdafanficReal 4 months ago
That is a MONSTER !! This Iron Leviathan navigating California with all it's prohibitive curvature and gradient was a sight to see. Great Post !!! Great Catch !!! How often do see something like this !!! What was the this ? A transfer move to a nearby L.A. Port?
Starfield1959 4 months ago
I got tired of counting. Thats Amazing!
beefyyamaha 4 months ago
Cutting jobs? They can run a train right now with no driver on board. Union rules prevent this though. I do not believe they can stop them from adding trains togeather yet. It would be a bitch to stop if some poor schmo races the train.
idarusskie 4 months ago
@idarusskie Freights in North America are not currently equipped for "driverless" operation. It would take a massive investment and union or no union it's not going to happen for decades except in very specialized circumstances.
There is no 'they' who can stop "them" from adding trains together. I'm not even sure what you're talking about here. These long BNSF and UP trains are just that...long trains.
Boss302fan 4 months ago
*stuck at crossing*
Fis10n 5 months ago
Where are all the GE haters? I didn't see any of the the tired old posts about GE vs EMD, EMD vs GE, etc. This was an all GE-powered (GEVO to be exact) monster train. I guess GE was up to the task and not "GE junk" like is posted so often. BTW, my favorite locos are EMD, so I'm definitely not biased. In any case, a very impressive train. Also,Quebec, Northshore & Labrador runs some of the longest and heaviest trains on the planet (along with BHP and Chemin de Fer Cartier). Awesome stuff, thanks.
C45ACCTE 5 months ago
awsome
SuperTrainkid 5 months ago
@SuperTrainkid Thanks!
singwith 5 months ago
my god, that beats the biggest train i've seen by far! cool catch!
themattrat1995 5 months ago
@themattrat1995 Thanks!
singwith 5 months ago
@singwith Thanks!
singwith 5 months ago 2
Holy s- -t, thats one long train, railroad has just gotta be up there among the greenest ways to move freight around. Wonder how long it takes to stop!!!!
FreemanSir 5 months ago
I would love to get my hands on the throttle of this train xD Only if CSX had intermodals this long!
Cardinallover31 5 months ago
it had 301 trolleys in total. guess the car driver waiting was kinda pissed. lol.
SysterMoon 5 months ago
tres belle video.
profileurbelge 6 months ago
singwith--
Where in California is Montbello located?
EricEbac22 6 months ago
@EricEbac22 Montebello is 20 to 30 mins east of Los Angeles.
singwith 6 months ago
Ive been reading all these disagreements about who has the longest trains when the argument can be ended like this: As far as your general freight that hauls consumer goods go,then Union Pacific and other US railroads have the advantage.If we go into iron ore, which is a specialty haul,then yes Brazil and Australia has the advantage as that takes up a significant proportion of their rail freight hauls because that is a major export out of those countries.
JackStryker72292 6 months ago 2
This makes a pretty good excuse why you was late for work if you get caught at the crossing.
luketorpedo 6 months ago
awesome vid
morfeusz120 6 months ago
Greedy corp trying to see if they can cut jobs. Next only one man in the cab then no engineer. This was 3 trains put together.
MOJONIXION 6 months ago
@MOJONIXION Greedy corp trying to keep traffic on the rails and off the highways where incredibly competitive truckers are trying desparately to win it back. It is the railroad's job to lower freight rates billed to customers in order to maintain traffic levels. If that means longer trains and that is what it takes to maintain the business that is what they will do. I suppose the greedy managers could have just given up and let the trucks go over the highway.
Boss302fan 5 months ago
@Boss302fan rail is better than inefficient trucking. It saves not only the company money but the consumer. Get you shit straight. There are far more fatalities caused by semi trucks and bad drivers than there are related to locomotive accidents.
tehatemachine 5 months ago
@tehatemachine I am not sure what I wrote that you are disagreeing with. I've railroaded over 30 eyars and I damn well know both how trucks and rails work and compete against each other. No where in my post did I say anything against longer trains, and as I work in the port of LA I'm actually handling them on a daily basis. I am also one of the "greedy managers". I am all for long haul rail and short haul truck.
Boss302fan 5 months ago
@MOJONIXION well, its better than 500 trucks put together!
singwith 5 months ago 8
That was super cool! Do you know what yard did they used to assemble that monster?
TheSkipinatorVids 6 months ago
Not one boxcar, just flatcars with boxes
XL290 6 months ago
Diesel power!
Skripe1 6 months ago
Wow!!! What a train!! I think that was when they did that test to see if they can pull long trains like the one you got.
Conrail2576 6 months ago
It's not THAT long.
outsidemendham 6 months ago
Endless Wurm......
KnickerBockers163 6 months ago
now i see how trains change the world
zkyfengix 6 months ago
Wow! It's too fucking long! gosh
1989johnny08 6 months ago
arent there 10 locomotives?
joachimfws 6 months ago
295 cars with 9 engines!
urdead107 6 months ago
better than porn
raukurasoldier 6 months ago
I counted 296 cars 9 locomotives.
saxmastergq 6 months ago
Almost as long as the train in uncharted 2 lol :P
Zuece14 6 months ago
wat to many mexicans in those containers
ThereIsAHeavenX 6 months ago
Sorry I'm late for work boss, I had to wait for a train to drive past me...
BoseATI 6 months ago
TTTRRRAAAAAIINNSSSS!!!!WWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
tinmandylan 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
have they not heard of multiple trains???? ha ha
8uzzlightyear 6 months ago
imagine the all the traffic this caused xD
ilikepie135792468 6 months ago
How can someone click on a "longest train video link" and then dislike it?
It's not like you expected to see anything different ? lol
carouselcarouse 6 months ago 4
I would hate to be stuck at the crossing when this flys by
lukeiamurfather1 6 months ago
303 cars...
halo82794 6 months ago
How annoyed would you be if you were waiting at the crossing huh?
mogotio 6 months ago
I counted 305 units
Correct?
Incorrect?
mtosyuu 6 months ago
must of sucked if you were trying to cross.
xXDcentricXx 6 months ago
295 train cars and 8 locomotives.
urbanchaosv1 6 months ago
I bet that guy in the suv at the end was annoyed as hell having to wait for the mother of all trains to lumber on by
SirThomaas 6 months ago
wtv my dick is just as long
AchelGrape 6 months ago
@AchelGrape someone said it already. :P
singwith 6 months ago 6
fun facts: i counted 297 carts, and if you stare really closely for 2-3 mins then pause the video, the carts are moving backwards lol*
volcomni 6 months ago
woooooooooo000ooot???
haha nice train....did anyone count the container?
hartzfear4alc 6 months ago
Jedzie Chiński badziew do Polski
ArcherOfFuture 6 months ago
I'm SO happy to see a train video on the YouTube trends!! :D
steriogram007 6 months ago 6
@steriogram007 Thanks. now I know that's why I get more comments on this video.
singwith 6 months ago
i started watching this, went to pee, came back and it was still going.
GuerillaTheGorilla 6 months ago
how long for stop it?
TheRaidn 6 months ago
12 people were at the rail crossing when this happened
juliserra1 6 months ago
First we had long cat, now, we have long train.
KillaSin 6 months ago 3
so how long is this? lol
knightmarel 6 months ago
Absolutely loved it! That is plenty of rumble and roar for me! I am just getting into filming trains, check out my videos.
shooting4fun 6 months ago
Thumbs up if you only watched the first 10 seconds and the last 10 seconds...
rienzi18 7 months ago
Train= almost as long as my dick
HUSKERbd 7 months ago
that shit is UNSTOPPABLE
chennyg1 7 months ago
how many train cars are there?
WhiteLightning1220 7 months ago
rofl imagine someone at the crossing being late for work and then this happens? they'd be like "NO F%%%ING WAY!" XD
DemoraX 7 months ago 3
OMG, its end at 4:18 of the train
JorJorArmany 7 months ago
and then they found out they were going the wrong way
ohfman117 7 months ago
4:26 That driver must be pissed off LOL!!
NewYorkPixels 7 months ago