me personally i dnt think he was gettin at cole. its just that in most of his lyrics its like hes talkin to somebody about somebody. so its easy to think hes gettin at cole cuz he is on his song. he could put this same verse on one of his songs and the thought of him dissin j cole would not enter your head
@LilYizzy coming from someone that has "lil" in front of their name says enough. J cole dope but he aint on Ortiz lvl. He didnt even have to the best verse on this lmao. Ortiz>Cole
@Jok3rfrmbk Who the fuck is Ortiz? Another faggot gangster rapper that we don't need. Lupe spits the truth. Ortiz is another knock-off version of 50 cent.
@LilYizzy What? You're a fucking idiot lmao. Joell Ortiz is one of the nicest rappers. Lupe and Joell are 2 different type of people. 50 is no where near Joell. You dumb ass nigga.
@LilYizzy so biggie smalls talking about his life struggles was bullshit but lil wayne talking bout how he wants 2 fuck every girl get the hell out of here did ll cool j rap about any of that how about run dmc or sugar hill gang het educated on the history of hip hop before you make dumbass comments like that
@vegrunks When I say music now, I'm not specifically referring to Lil Wayne, he still raps about guns and shit. Biggie and 2Pac were great, but their material was over-used. And honestly if you still listen to sugar hill gang in 2011 you deserve to get shot.
@vegrunks Every rapper had a few standout tracks, but the majority of the rappers talk shit about their gangster lives. Stealing a style NWA brought up.
@LilYizzy oh no there was no "gangster" rap before NWA and NWA rapped about whats happening in compton because people were forgetting about the what happens in those area's another thing if there was no NWA none of these rappers would be around today
@LilYizzy but what you trying to say is new school is better than old school which aint even close to true listen 2 lyrics fuck beats and chorus's listen 2 lyrics and look deeper and tell me which is better
loll woah maybe ur takin this a bit too far i never said he better den joel andddd he DEF AINT BETTAH DEN KISSS.....i might b 17 I JUSS RATHER his style more than the gangster style at times..and he is better than most but isnt is obvious not to kompare j cole to joel or kiss..styles p cass or any1 like that..??and truthfully LUPEEE IS BEYOND a beast idgaf bout his hand manerisms that nikka nise...bro and yeah style will always b different but ehh lupe drake cole...none from new york.....
Never said you said he was better than Joel. Iook through the pages and see the people who say that he is better than Joel - those are the people I'm referring to. With Joel it's not about gangsta style, it's about reality. If you wanna talk about a dude who is multifaceted in terms of preaching reality and giving you a REAL story Joel gives you that. And Im not comparing the Lupes, the Coles, the drakes off mannerisms, Im just saying that seems like todays norms.
for those that might not be sure yes he is going at j cole..I like j cole but he not FUCKING with Joell ortiz real talk!!! I think Joell ortiz be walking around with a pack of fruit snacks filled with gummi rappers that he can Chew up....lol..
@cp5051 Two artist at different ends of the subject matter spectrum. To me its easier now and days to rhyme about being a dope dealin gangsta. Joell Ortiz is a spitter tho dont get me wrong. But you said it yourself Cole can do commercial joints, Ortiz tried and failed, now hes killin mixtapes. I'm just saying. J.Cole can give you street rhymes if he wanted. Cole got the whole package.
Agree. But Cole is commercial because he has the appeal and flow wise to connect with today's mainstream hip hop. The thing with him, he can still attrack the hip hop crowd because he has a good deal of lyricism that most of these successful rappers lack. Ortiz is trying but he hasn't failed. It's like for a real punch line, raw lyricist like himself has to try much, much harder because its still an appeal (Looks, clothes) industry. He has to come up with unique and classic album
@cp5051 to be successful. I mean the dude had a deal with dre, had some success recently with Slaughterhouse and is, including SH members, in the negotiating stages with Eminem to sign with Shady. So he has success. Joels doesnt just spit about street shit, the dude can come up with stories and put together real music . Joell can be a full package but Cole still has that look of todays rappers, thats why his music really sells.
yes, the look of todays rappers. his style, his hand mannerisms is like that of todays rappers like drake, lupe, etc. . Can he make stories? Of course. Is he different from most rappers? Yes. because he can make stories and hes different and have better lyrics, do todays young people overrate him and say he's better than kiss, Joel ortiz, etc? Oh, yeah!
@cp5051 i kan tell u like dat east koast shyt that new york shyt im from the bronx bruh aint nuffin bettah den the east coast def NY rappers but im not sayin he bettah den all just most....so im not makin him seem like god he dont even make it to my top 10 but when it comes to topiks hes koo wit me all im sayin......idgaf as long as i kan listen to AZ-doe or die album every1 else kan die
@cp5051 i kinda see wat ur saying tho....that most ppl my age look at that but i like that sum1 aktually gettin real play that spit bout real shyt.....i feel u cole is over rated bekuz not alot of rappers make it like that and joel is def under rated....success wise doesnt matter to me tho i juss go off what they spit so i guess im off topik with u but.... joel is way underrated.....
it's not about age. I'm not that much older than you. Enjoy the people you listening too, because I do respect those artists, because I enjoy creativity whether its Big L to Gucci maine. Artistry is what I am, never mind the debate at hand. I respect people who are successful, They work hard at it No matter whether they're lyrically gifted or not.
@Mr713Lopez I'm not a fan of Waka or Wayne, but yes, they did -_-.
LilYizzy 3 months ago
I see ppl don't understand real hip hop music lupe has skills but I'm sure your the wayne type lmao trash!!!!
ThePhowlSlurz 7 months ago
OK J got skillz
ThePhowlSlurz 7 months ago
Why the fuck are you all hating on Drake on a Cole song?
LilYizzy 9 months ago
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Electro Remix of J.Cole's Who Dat. Raw new style on it. Goes hard tho. czek it
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Brendanh7 9 months ago
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KonstancyOfficial 10 months ago
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Fevrier14 11 months ago
me personally i dnt think he was gettin at cole. its just that in most of his lyrics its like hes talkin to somebody about somebody. so its easy to think hes gettin at cole cuz he is on his song. he could put this same verse on one of his songs and the thought of him dissin j cole would not enter your head
jmateen1 1 year ago
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LadyMavMuzik 1 year ago
lupe>ortiz>cole>>>>>>>>>>>>>fuk drake
OscarBallz 1 year ago
@OscarBallz YEAH FUCK DRAKE
Blockloyal 1 year ago
@OscarBallz hell no joell is better than lupe
planethell187 1 year ago
@planethell187 FUCK NO. Lupe rapes joell 1000x over
LilYizzy 9 months ago
@LilYizzy coming from someone that has "lil" in front of their name says enough. J cole dope but he aint on Ortiz lvl. He didnt even have to the best verse on this lmao. Ortiz>Cole
Jok3rfrmbk 9 months ago
@Jok3rfrmbk Who the fuck is Ortiz? Another faggot gangster rapper that we don't need. Lupe spits the truth. Ortiz is another knock-off version of 50 cent.
LilYizzy 9 months ago
@LilYizzy What? You're a fucking idiot lmao. Joell Ortiz is one of the nicest rappers. Lupe and Joell are 2 different type of people. 50 is no where near Joell. You dumb ass nigga.
supermetagross 9 months ago
@supermetagross Ortiz is still another gangster rapper that brings nothing new to the game. End of convo? Thanks. Faggot dick-rider.
LilYizzy 9 months ago
@LilYizzy LMAO go listen to more Ortiz before hatin on him. Dude is fuckin nice
Mrgreatism 6 months ago
@LilYizzy nigga what are you talking about another gangster rapper fuck outta here he bringing old school back go listen to him out ur damn mind smh
vegrunks 3 months ago
@vegrunks We don't need old-school back. There's a reason it's called old-school. Get over it. Music moves on.
LilYizzy 3 months ago
@LilYizzy n music sux now we do need old school back smh this nigga stoopid
vegrunks 3 months ago
@vegrunks No. Music now is better. Old-school is for rappers bullshitting about their gangs, guns, drugs and shit. We do NOT need that.
LilYizzy 3 months ago
@LilYizzy so biggie smalls talking about his life struggles was bullshit but lil wayne talking bout how he wants 2 fuck every girl get the hell out of here did ll cool j rap about any of that how about run dmc or sugar hill gang het educated on the history of hip hop before you make dumbass comments like that
vegrunks 3 months ago
@vegrunks When I say music now, I'm not specifically referring to Lil Wayne, he still raps about guns and shit. Biggie and 2Pac were great, but their material was over-used. And honestly if you still listen to sugar hill gang in 2011 you deserve to get shot.
LilYizzy 3 months ago
@vegrunks Every rapper had a few standout tracks, but the majority of the rappers talk shit about their gangster lives. Stealing a style NWA brought up.
LilYizzy 3 months ago
@LilYizzy oh no there was no "gangster" rap before NWA and NWA rapped about whats happening in compton because people were forgetting about the what happens in those area's another thing if there was no NWA none of these rappers would be around today
vegrunks 3 months ago
@vegrunks Exactly what I just said. All these gangster rappers got rich off of a style that NWA made up.
LilYizzy 3 months ago
@LilYizzy but what you trying to say is new school is better than old school which aint even close to true listen 2 lyrics fuck beats and chorus's listen 2 lyrics and look deeper and tell me which is better
vegrunks 3 months ago
@vegrunks That's the point. It's not about just 'lyrics' anymore. If you want to be a good artist you HAVE to have a complete song.
LilYizzy 3 months ago
@LilYizzy and old school over all is way better than this shit coming out today and joell brings back a complete song he's not a gangster rapper
vegrunks 3 months ago
Check LGG's version of J Cole's Who Dat. UK all day
How many DJ's can you name?
LGGMUSIC 1 year ago
loll woah maybe ur takin this a bit too far i never said he better den joel andddd he DEF AINT BETTAH DEN KISSS.....i might b 17 I JUSS RATHER his style more than the gangster style at times..and he is better than most but isnt is obvious not to kompare j cole to joel or kiss..styles p cass or any1 like that..??and truthfully LUPEEE IS BEYOND a beast idgaf bout his hand manerisms that nikka nise...bro and yeah style will always b different but ehh lupe drake cole...none from new york.....
xxleronexx 1 year ago
@xxleronexx
Never said you said he was better than Joel. Iook through the pages and see the people who say that he is better than Joel - those are the people I'm referring to. With Joel it's not about gangsta style, it's about reality. If you wanna talk about a dude who is multifaceted in terms of preaching reality and giving you a REAL story Joel gives you that. And Im not comparing the Lupes, the Coles, the drakes off mannerisms, Im just saying that seems like todays norms.
cp5051 1 year ago
murder!
1kingdale 1 year ago
check out my who dat remix on my channel. go hard or go home son!
JUSMixtapeMusic 1 year ago
for those that might not be sure yes he is going at j cole..I like j cole but he not FUCKING with Joell ortiz real talk!!! I think Joell ortiz be walking around with a pack of fruit snacks filled with gummi rappers that he can Chew up....lol..
GRIM413 1 year ago 6
@GRIM413 idk man i think it a be a good toss up J.Cole Vs. J.Ortiz i can't call it idk how u can both got bars for days
lyricalapocalypse89 6 months ago
@GRIM413 YAOWA!
LandoLoso 3 days ago
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owensmhs1990 1 year ago
cutie pie...rooowwwwr *in my cougar voice*
iisweet 1 year ago
joel is da best rapper period. he's real hiphop not these abc singers trying to show you how to dance holla acha boy boy; que viva puerto rico!!!!!
louielouc 1 year ago
gimme a break kit kat
sickie12 1 year ago
joell ortiz is a beast
MrBeast503 1 year ago 17
Nigga Joell Ortiz Is O.D.
CGD132 1 year ago
Yo Joell Ortiz bodied this fuckin track.
tylerbrin1119 1 year ago
he coming at jay z and j cole
matthewpinex 1 year ago
@matthewpinex Yo hell yeah and cole is a better artist. period.
SmokinRed23 1 year ago
@SmokinRed23
Better artist commercially. better rapper? Never.
cp5051 1 year ago
@cp5051 Two artist at different ends of the subject matter spectrum. To me its easier now and days to rhyme about being a dope dealin gangsta. Joell Ortiz is a spitter tho dont get me wrong. But you said it yourself Cole can do commercial joints, Ortiz tried and failed, now hes killin mixtapes. I'm just saying. J.Cole can give you street rhymes if he wanted. Cole got the whole package.
SmokinRed23 1 year ago
@SmokinRed23
Agree. But Cole is commercial because he has the appeal and flow wise to connect with today's mainstream hip hop. The thing with him, he can still attrack the hip hop crowd because he has a good deal of lyricism that most of these successful rappers lack. Ortiz is trying but he hasn't failed. It's like for a real punch line, raw lyricist like himself has to try much, much harder because its still an appeal (Looks, clothes) industry. He has to come up with unique and classic album
cp5051 1 year ago
@cp5051 to be successful. I mean the dude had a deal with dre, had some success recently with Slaughterhouse and is, including SH members, in the negotiating stages with Eminem to sign with Shady. So he has success. Joels doesnt just spit about street shit, the dude can come up with stories and put together real music . Joell can be a full package but Cole still has that look of todays rappers, thats why his music really sells.
cp5051 1 year ago
@cp5051 ..........look of todays rappers wtf u mean??aktin like cole kant make stories and he diff from juss bout every rapper out rii now -_-
xxleronexx 1 year ago
@xxleronexx
yes, the look of todays rappers. his style, his hand mannerisms is like that of todays rappers like drake, lupe, etc. . Can he make stories? Of course. Is he different from most rappers? Yes. because he can make stories and hes different and have better lyrics, do todays young people overrate him and say he's better than kiss, Joel ortiz, etc? Oh, yeah!
cp5051 1 year ago
@cp5051 i kan tell u like dat east koast shyt that new york shyt im from the bronx bruh aint nuffin bettah den the east coast def NY rappers but im not sayin he bettah den all just most....so im not makin him seem like god he dont even make it to my top 10 but when it comes to topiks hes koo wit me all im sayin......idgaf as long as i kan listen to AZ-doe or die album every1 else kan die
xxleronexx 1 year ago
@xxleronexx
I hear you.
cp5051 1 year ago
@cp5051 i kinda see wat ur saying tho....that most ppl my age look at that but i like that sum1 aktually gettin real play that spit bout real shyt.....i feel u cole is over rated bekuz not alot of rappers make it like that and joel is def under rated....success wise doesnt matter to me tho i juss go off what they spit so i guess im off topik with u but.... joel is way underrated.....
xxleronexx 1 year ago
@xxleronexx
it's not about age. I'm not that much older than you. Enjoy the people you listening too, because I do respect those artists, because I enjoy creativity whether its Big L to Gucci maine. Artistry is what I am, never mind the debate at hand. I respect people who are successful, They work hard at it No matter whether they're lyrically gifted or not.
cp5051 1 year ago
To all those who like good music...follow J cole cousin Lil wiley on twitter at Lilwiley4 he's just as hot as cole check em out
bluxtasy 1 year ago
JOEL!!
Menaceswagger225 1 year ago
yooo joell killed it
nappyp33z 1 year ago
i know joell aint going at Cole. If so why? Fall back
stafatnns 1 year ago
@stafatnns he's not. lol, and joell is real too man
nappyp33z 1 year ago
YOOOOO THIS GOES SO HARD!
CollegeMiddKid12 1 year ago
Joell's lyrics were straight fire but the flow was pretty bad in my opinion. not a bad remix overall
plok9408 1 year ago
he look like young berg
nigga4life200 1 year ago
who dat???????
007sweetbabe 1 year ago