Anyone thats wondering why its not like in movies is because of 2 things: Its called a suppressor because it suppresses the gun. A silencer silences guns. Subsonic rounds sound silenced because they do not reach the speed of sound, and the others do making them suppressed.
@blizzard249 Thats the YHM Cobra 9mm..One of the loudest cans on the market..A silencer and a suppressor are the same thing..its a game in semantics..The BATFE and people that own them call them silencers..People that don't call them suppressors..Thats the only difference..9mm is right on the threshold of Supersonic..115 & 124 grain are moving around 1200 fps..Hence the supersonic crack..147's are moving about 1000 fps and don't break the sound barrier. 147's also have more kinetic energy.
If you want single fire, can you hold the action closed with your thumb? Some guys at the range were discussing it as they left to keep a shell from ejecting.
actually the first and proper term is silencer thats what the inventor dubbed it when it was first created but that term does not really describe its function vary well so the term suppressor was adopted and is now used and what i think is the proper term cuz it describes the function more accurately.
silencer is the incorrect term, they are actually called suppressors, the whole point of it is not to make it silent but to make it sound like something other than a gunshot
awesome suppression. i just got my yhm Mite .22 can in, only took 3 months to clear, i am so pleased with the quality, the 9mm cobra is for sure my next purchase after seeing this. thanks for posting.
ATF is majorly back logged because everyone is catching on to the Revocable Living Trust. It was primarily designed for people who couldn't get signatures. That is what ATf told me when i called them and asked.
Since I posted that, I got one of them. The App was filed in 12/08, check cashed 4/09, silencer in my hand 10/09. So you're right. The guy said it might not take as long for the second one because I already jumped though the hoops once. My 2nd check was cashed 09/09, I'll let you know, if I can remember.
Great video, other than the first 20 seconds of fluff. That really was an amazing comparison though, it really illustrated the difference. Pretty much all you heard with the subsonic was the clicking of the action of the gun.
I understand the bullet is traveling less than the speed of sound. The question is how is sub sonic achieved? by bullet weight or by using a different type of powder or a combination of the two?
It's all pretty complicated, but to put it simply there are 3 factors: bullet weight, how fast the powder burns, and how much powder. Those will determine how fast the bullet comes out the barrel. Increase bullet weight with the same amount and kind of powder, you get a slower bullet, but with roughly the same kinetic energy. As long as the maximum pressure is not exceeded (34,084 psi), and the bullet still makes it out the barrel, you can pretty much load whatever you want safely.
Was I asking you? No I was not. I am a reloader and I was just picking his brain for the heck of it. Honestly I am so sick of rude juvenile dickheads who have ruined message blog boards, chat rooms and sites like youtube who type before they think.
Nice vid. Very informative. And good equipment; I could even hear the brass falling. Man what a difference. That sub-sonic is the sexiest thing I've heard all day.
I am interested in how silencer/suppresors and ammo work. Is the subsonic ammo easily available, and is it less noisy if shot without the silencing device? -Thanks
subsonic ammo is quiter to the trained ear, since it does not have a sonic "crack" - which is a mini sonic boom caused by higher-velocity (supersonic) ammo. With most rifles you will hear a characteristic crack, easily identifiable in a range with an echo. Most pistols (9mm, .45, etc.) just "pop" when fired if they are subsonic.
supersonic ammunition makes a small sonic boom as cha0scl0ud said. the reason you must use subsonic ammo for a suppressor to function properly is because supersonic rounds Carrie on the sonic boom outside the suppressor, since subs don't have this boom, they can be suppressed.
sub sonic... its all about how fast the bullet is going.
thats why jets don't go super sonic above land. the noise of the airpressure (supersonic) is 10x louder than the noise of the engines. the B1-B bomber usally just flyes supersonic over then enemy and they just give up because its sooo loud that there heads hurt from the pressure wave. i'm told you can't even hear the engines, just the sonic wave
ACTUALLY, THE B1-B Lancer hardly ever flies at supersonic, though it is more than capibable. This would give away it's anti-radar "stealth" signature and leave it very much suceptable to detection.
Uh...no. Heavier bullets have more momentum and sectional density, and will generally penetrate further than light bullets. Simple physics 101, man. Light bullets are high velocity, and the JHP's open up faster and more violently, thus reducing penetration. The ONLY .45 ACP rounds that underpenetrate are the worthless 165 and 185 grain bullets. Nobody makes a 180 grain .45 ACP bullet. Almost ALL police use 124-147 grain in 9mm, due to 115 grain's inadequate penetration to reach vitals.
This video really is a perfect example of a good 9mm can. On my G19 with 147g ammo, it sounds like a brad nail gun. Put a little water, or ky jelly in the back of the can and it is even quieter (for about 5-10 shots). I shot the Advanced Arm .300 can on my Rem 700 and it's about .75% of a .22 rifle with no recoil. using regular ammo.
If you are going into a very short distance action and you need supressor to conseal your presence then subsonics are just the tool required, if you need to supress your supersonic boom on a high power bullet at 30 meters you are better of with a high speed bullet low grain, finally if you want to stop a 300 pound guy attacking you under the influence you better get a higher grain bullet some HydraShock will do the job.
a suppressor is so pointless unless you actually utilize subsonic ammunition, but man when you get a suppressor that can properly dissipate energy and you combine it with subsonic ammunition, its a thing of beauty
well here in north carolina, a civilian like myself can get them, you just have to either have a class 3 liscense, which i believe you also have to have a FFL to get, i think, or the easy way is to get your local sheriff to sign off on you getting the suppressor or pre 86 machine gun
@austion66 file necessary paperwork with the BATFE and $200.00 tax stamp
MAYNARD4507 2 weeks ago
what kind of legal hoops do you have to go through to get a supressor?
austion66 3 months ago
@austion66
None here in Missouri!
Hartatttack420 1 month ago
Forward it to 22s.
shotgunstevie 3 months ago
the last 5 rounds sounded like they were low power rounds.
naur115 5 months ago
Damn those last 5 rounds were quiet... A lot of airsoft guns make more noise than that haha
squidvis 7 months ago
Is that a reload or a factory load? I would like the data if it is a reload.
chadphilpott 1 year ago
oh my god....he turned it into a 22!!!
lhoppen 1 year ago
Anyone thats wondering why its not like in movies is because of 2 things: Its called a suppressor because it suppresses the gun. A silencer silences guns. Subsonic rounds sound silenced because they do not reach the speed of sound, and the others do making them suppressed.
blizzard249 1 year ago
@blizzard249 Thats the YHM Cobra 9mm..One of the loudest cans on the market..A silencer and a suppressor are the same thing..its a game in semantics..The BATFE and people that own them call them silencers..People that don't call them suppressors..Thats the only difference..9mm is right on the threshold of Supersonic..115 & 124 grain are moving around 1200 fps..Hence the supersonic crack..147's are moving about 1000 fps and don't break the sound barrier. 147's also have more kinetic energy.
MrChondro 1 year ago
@MrChondro I own several of them and have never called them 'silencers'.
D3ADLYforce 7 months ago
Lol I like the saying at the end
an10nee 1 year ago
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samuraimax 1 year ago
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Is this really even a silencer? Cause it didn't sound like one...
DuDaX 1 year ago
@DuDaX Are you basing that on the last time you watched [insert_generic_action_movie]?
samuraimax 1 year ago 4
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samuraimax 1 year ago
@samuraimax Maybe.
DuDaX 1 year ago
@DuDaX A 'silencer" technically doesnt exist. "Suppressors" just muffle a shot, nothing can make a gun as silent as some movies suggest.
rotak98 1 year ago
@rotak98 I see, thanks for the info ;)
DuDaX 1 year ago
@rotak98 to bad too.
TheDanstheman3453 1 year ago
@rotak98 dear god please read the NFA of 1934 and the original patent by Hiram Maxim before you repeat that again.
Daytonaman675 1 year ago
@rotak98
That's not true.
The Mac 10 is extremely quiet with its suppressor.
Although its suppressor is huge.
fryshakemeat 1 year ago
@rotak98 except a pillow over the victims head ... and the gun pressed in to it while you shoot him or her in the head of course:)
DobermanCrew 1 year ago
Right on good representation of Super Sonic vs. Subsonic munitions through a suppressor.... Gemtech also makes an excellent product.
skurfer101 1 year ago
god tht sub-sonic gets me hard as a rock
ecollins92 1 year ago 2
If you want single fire, can you hold the action closed with your thumb? Some guys at the range were discussing it as they left to keep a shell from ejecting.
teddycanary 1 year ago
@teddycanary Only if you won't be needing that thumb anytime soon...
WoodstaS 1 year ago
cool! thanks for showing us what a difference it makes! good luck with any future vids...
Katana9990 1 year ago
thank for the imput on the diffrent loads
jar3351273 2 years ago
How much is the YHM for the 9mm?
jbeard82 2 years ago
actually the first and proper term is silencer thats what the inventor dubbed it when it was first created but that term does not really describe its function vary well so the term suppressor was adopted and is now used and what i think is the proper term cuz it describes the function more accurately.
fatdan172501 2 years ago
silencer is the incorrect term, they are actually called suppressors, the whole point of it is not to make it silent but to make it sound like something other than a gunshot
stealthmarine83 2 years ago
Superb video, many thanks for you contribution.
Pay no attention to the hopeless imbeciles who comment on everything they don't know.
guthywoodry 2 years ago
that does not sound silent
thekickitin 2 years ago
These aren't Hollywood suppressors, of course they're not silent.
FrostwolfV 2 years ago 42
they are silents. what the hell are u talking about? u can hear it
thekickitin 2 years ago
I mean that they aren't as silent as they are in the movies.
FrostwolfV 2 years ago
haha im not thinking of movies..... it is games
thekickitin 2 years ago
@FrostwolfV That was pretty quiet when the rounds switched to subsonic.
shortround63 1 year ago 2
Hollywood silencers sound louder to me, like "pew pew pew", when IRL it's more like "click click click".
SaxonSwine 1 year ago
@FrostwolfV to be honest its even louder than the video shows.
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RAPIDFIREG19 2 years ago
My tax stamp took 2 months and 16 days to clear as of last week. I think they are pretty caught up to say the least at NFA
onyxpilot 2 years ago
awesome suppression. i just got my yhm Mite .22 can in, only took 3 months to clear, i am so pleased with the quality, the 9mm cobra is for sure my next purchase after seeing this. thanks for posting.
windsor6699 2 years ago
i always thought that more grain the faster the bullet goes... can someone explain that to me what the grain means? thank you
planchik 2 years ago
Grain is the unit of weight in ballistics, bullet weight, powder weight, etc.
1 ounce = 437.5 grains
115gn bullet = .263 ounces
147gn bullet = .336 ounces
Higher grain, slower bullet because it's heavier, assuming the powder charge is the same.
uclajd 2 years ago
thank you for explaining that to me
planchik 2 years ago
I thought the grain measurement referred to the weight of gun powder?
WALL45tech 2 years ago
It can to both, but in this case it is referring to bullet weight.
uclajd 2 years ago
i know this is off topic but what was that song
xpaullettax 2 years ago
"Name of the Game" by The Crystal Method.
dusty101011 2 years ago
thanks man
xpaullettax 2 years ago
ATF is majorly back logged because everyone is catching on to the Revocable Living Trust. It was primarily designed for people who couldn't get signatures. That is what ATf told me when i called them and asked.
hemi426bee69 2 years ago
Very nice!
msninfamous 2 years ago
Nice! How long did it take for you to get your silencer from the day the ATF cashed your $200 tax stamp? I heard they're super duper backlogged.
joae1975 2 years ago
it will take about 6 months
Adammartini 2 years ago
Since I posted that, I got one of them. The App was filed in 12/08, check cashed 4/09, silencer in my hand 10/09. So you're right. The guy said it might not take as long for the second one because I already jumped though the hoops once. My 2nd check was cashed 09/09, I'll let you know, if I can remember.
joae1975 2 years ago
Great video, other than the first 20 seconds of fluff. That really was an amazing comparison though, it really illustrated the difference. Pretty much all you heard with the subsonic was the clicking of the action of the gun.
rtrbrtsn89 2 years ago
sub sonic is def the wauy to go if u ever really need to pop sumone within earshot of the public
arkangel8419 2 years ago
21 seconds of garbage, then a sub par suppression. This was garbage.
rednoseroxy 2 years ago
Darn. It really makes a difference. Without subsonic ammo its still pretty loud.
MadeinHell2 2 years ago
Ps. Can you use subsonic ammo without silencer? and if you can how does it sound then?
MadeinHell2 2 years ago
will the suppressor reduce the power ?
shittyfuck 2 years ago
not necessarily, but using an underpowered round (subsonic) like in the video enhances the sound reduction.
makarthamin 2 years ago
What will reduce the power is the Subsonic ammunition that you need to make it quiet.
dbmccart 2 years ago
What brand of barrel do you use?
C6Jimmy 2 years ago
I love this video and that gun/suppressor.
supercharged03 2 years ago
so were 2 different types of rounds fired?
insomniac4ever 2 years ago
Yea, the second set were subsonic rounds i believe, They do no create a loud crack sound because their velocity is typically below the sound barrier.
Less power, but less noise = P
kyleChall 2 years ago 2
no you don't have to change the spring, I have fired thousands of rounds through the Glock 17,19,26
both subsonic and non, it will still have enough energy to cycle the slide with the subs
sevenedges 2 years ago
do you have to change the spring to make the Glock work with subsonic ammo?
thanks
Aidan K
aodhanof90 2 years ago
That's still pretty loud.
supermankicass 3 years ago
The supersonics were pretty loud, but that can't be helped. But the subsonics were extremely quiet.
mbucari1 2 years ago 3
Is it because the bullet weight is greater or do you use a different type of powder? Or is it both?
crazyredlion4500 3 years ago
No it's because the 115grn bullets are traveling faster than the speed of sound and the 147 are not.
Look at the wiki to see representative chart of bullet weight and velocity:
wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/9x19mm_Parabellum
PistoleroJesse 3 years ago
I understand the bullet is traveling less than the speed of sound. The question is how is sub sonic achieved? by bullet weight or by using a different type of powder or a combination of the two?
crazyredlion4500 3 years ago
It's all pretty complicated, but to put it simply there are 3 factors: bullet weight, how fast the powder burns, and how much powder. Those will determine how fast the bullet comes out the barrel. Increase bullet weight with the same amount and kind of powder, you get a slower bullet, but with roughly the same kinetic energy. As long as the maximum pressure is not exceeded (34,084 psi), and the bullet still makes it out the barrel, you can pretty much load whatever you want safely.
PistoleroJesse 3 years ago 3
he answered your question, because you're too lazy to hit a link
billdeal 3 years ago
Was I asking you? No I was not. I am a reloader and I was just picking his brain for the heck of it. Honestly I am so sick of rude juvenile dickheads who have ruined message blog boards, chat rooms and sites like youtube who type before they think.
crazyredlion4500 3 years ago
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oh, bravo. *claps*
billdeal 3 years ago
Nice vid. Very informative. And good equipment; I could even hear the brass falling. Man what a difference. That sub-sonic is the sexiest thing I've heard all day.
GrizzlyBears552 3 years ago 21
were the last five sub sonic rounds?
ogdencur000 3 years ago
I'm going to guess yes. You can hear the sonic crack on the others.
vampov 3 years ago
why guess when you can read the intro to the video that clearly states subsonic rounds were used . . .
sibrent1 3 years ago 4
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because the first few shots had a sonic boom; they weren't subsonic. maybe they were meant to be, but they weren't.
papercut231719 3 years ago
Holy moly, those last five sounded like a BB gun!! Thats freakin awesome! Excellent Video!!!!!
cal63look 3 years ago 3
the subsonic are awsome!
Glockman2619 3 years ago
WOw; BIG different in the first 5 and the last 5.
tjmilburn2007 3 years ago 3
I am interested in how silencer/suppresors and ammo work. Is the subsonic ammo easily available, and is it less noisy if shot without the silencing device? -Thanks
Hamcarver 3 years ago
subsonic ammo is quiter to the trained ear, since it does not have a sonic "crack" - which is a mini sonic boom caused by higher-velocity (supersonic) ammo. With most rifles you will hear a characteristic crack, easily identifiable in a range with an echo. Most pistols (9mm, .45, etc.) just "pop" when fired if they are subsonic.
cha0scl0ud 3 years ago
supersonic ammunition makes a small sonic boom as cha0scl0ud said. the reason you must use subsonic ammo for a suppressor to function properly is because supersonic rounds Carrie on the sonic boom outside the suppressor, since subs don't have this boom, they can be suppressed.
heath8843 3 years ago
that is awesome
matty056 3 years ago
nice
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ahmadsamin 3 years ago
dat is true what was the reason those last 5 rounds were much quieter
SASL96 3 years ago
already been answered, and it even says right at the bottom of the damn video!
which part of SUBSONIC AMMO do you not understand?
zentanker 3 years ago
Why were the last five so much quiter?
dirtyminded604 3 years ago
sub sonic... its all about how fast the bullet is going.
thats why jets don't go super sonic above land. the noise of the airpressure (supersonic) is 10x louder than the noise of the engines. the B1-B bomber usally just flyes supersonic over then enemy and they just give up because its sooo loud that there heads hurt from the pressure wave. i'm told you can't even hear the engines, just the sonic wave
bimmers50e30 3 years ago
ACTUALLY, THE B1-B Lancer hardly ever flies at supersonic, though it is more than capibable. This would give away it's anti-radar "stealth" signature and leave it very much suceptable to detection.
CragarShinoda 3 years ago
Wow. HUGE difference. Never tried it myself.
ChelseaLh14 3 years ago 2
Uh...no. Heavier bullets have more momentum and sectional density, and will generally penetrate further than light bullets. Simple physics 101, man. Light bullets are high velocity, and the JHP's open up faster and more violently, thus reducing penetration. The ONLY .45 ACP rounds that underpenetrate are the worthless 165 and 185 grain bullets. Nobody makes a 180 grain .45 ACP bullet. Almost ALL police use 124-147 grain in 9mm, due to 115 grain's inadequate penetration to reach vitals.
K40Shooter 3 years ago
sub-sonic bullets rock.
supercharged03 3 years ago
This video really is a perfect example of a good 9mm can. On my G19 with 147g ammo, it sounds like a brad nail gun. Put a little water, or ky jelly in the back of the can and it is even quieter (for about 5-10 shots). I shot the Advanced Arm .300 can on my Rem 700 and it's about .75% of a .22 rifle with no recoil. using regular ammo.
oconprop 3 years ago
I want one for my GLOCK 10MM
harley19770 3 years ago
It's gonna be really loud.
spraynpray 3 years ago
love the glock 19. I was just firing it today. =)
koho8000 3 years ago
shot 100 rds of PMC yesterday out of my 19! :D
arickard 3 years ago
Depending of the purpose of the action:
If you are going into a very short distance action and you need supressor to conseal your presence then subsonics are just the tool required, if you need to supress your supersonic boom on a high power bullet at 30 meters you are better of with a high speed bullet low grain, finally if you want to stop a 300 pound guy attacking you under the influence you better get a higher grain bullet some HydraShock will do the job.
Silencer is to minimize detection.
sbejarano 3 years ago
this video is so amazing! I want a suppressor so bad! its like pulling teeth trying to find a thread barrell along with the suppressor.
MOBROOKS 3 years ago
whats the name of that song at the beggining?
Moszczienski 4 years ago
The name of the entry song is "Name Of The Game" by The Crystal Method. :)
stllopez314 3 years ago
a suppressor is so pointless unless you actually utilize subsonic ammunition, but man when you get a suppressor that can properly dissipate energy and you combine it with subsonic ammunition, its a thing of beauty
HugeWeights 4 years ago 3
agreed
ethtreyu 4 years ago
I'll have to disagree. What about rifles whose projectiles rely on thier energy & speed for effectiveness? 5.56/7.62/.338/etc
A good suppressor:
Acts like a muzzle brake trapping gas and reducing recoil significantly & killing flash.
Aids hearing protection by knocking another 30dB off the shot in addition to your 20-30dB earmuffs.
Creates more cosistent gas flow and smoother bullet transition thus tightening your accuracy.
Subsonics may be a plus, but the big picture is larger. ;)
pnuemagger 3 years ago
I love the transition :)
jebustheone 4 years ago
aren't suppressors illegal unless your in law enforcement?
1Agent19 4 years ago
not on all weapons. Silencers on pistols for home defense. less noise means easier on the ears if fired in such a closed area
natemanrulz 4 years ago
Sweet! thanks for the info!
1Agent19 4 years ago
anytime man
natemanrulz 4 years ago
They are very legal in states that allow them.
762sd 4 years ago
well here in north carolina, a civilian like myself can get them, you just have to either have a class 3 liscense, which i believe you also have to have a FFL to get, i think, or the easy way is to get your local sheriff to sign off on you getting the suppressor or pre 86 machine gun
HugeWeights 4 years ago
Very nice. That's the same company that makes the supressor I use with one of my 1911s. Great video!
GunsAnd90sRock 4 years ago