i studied Aikido for 3 years in college, first traditional aikido then Tomiki. My experience is this...that Aikido is effective in certain scenarios but is limited. Tomiki is good as you get the randori experience in learning how the techniques are applied in real life to some degree. It is also most effective against someone who doesn't know the martial arts for the most part.. If someone is trained in a grappling art you are screwed.
Once, this classmate of mine grabbed me from behind and all i did was to release the grip, push him with my body while leaving a heel for him to trip, and bam! He fell like 2 metres away, and i was like "dude, that was cool!" Shows that aikido is effective!
so how do you win? I see judges on a lot of these, but it looks (for the most part) very set piece - except the knife stuff. Are there actual aikido competitions that score points based on takedowns, submissions, etc.?
Just unrealistic as a plausible martial art. Dont watch the defenders, watch the attackers; they are so static and unrealistic. Real attacks/violence doesnt work like that! Such a middle-class perception of 'using appropriate delf-defense against would-be attackers'. Dont rely on this to work in reality
aikido is not a sport... remember we do not initiate an attack... how can an aikidoka attack another aikidoka if they are both waiting to neutralize an attack. another thing aikido uses joint locks (breaks). how can you finish the opponent if you just evade. you need to make a contact. well we use atemis but their main use is just to outbalance or distract the attacker. Remember we rely on their weight, motion, force to neutralize their own aggressiveness... we are in harmony guyz.
Everyone who does a martial art thinks theirs is the best. This is a competition of demonstrations not fights against one another. Judo, BJJ, Kickboxing, Taekwondo, boxing all have real comp fights against themselves and each other. All the real life fighters are in UFC not the demonstration ones. Come on fellas, the only way you're gonna get better or get respect is to step into the ring! Don't waste all that training on false hope.
everyone that insult aikido as the soft martial art. they should try tomiki aikido and do some competition. when u try to counter the locks. However, I bet any style of aikido can beat any martial art. It depends on the person you fight with. Some STUPID people say taht they have beaten an aikidoka and that's why it is a shit. Fight against a sensei, not a new aikidoka
I was invited to fight a sensei. I practiced Wado-Karate for 11 years before and humbly requested a personal demonstration; there wasn't a thing he could do.
This is not because Aikido fails, it's because every one of their dojo always refuses to put it's students in aggressive fights. The ones where the attacker resists, never lets up, and you can end up with a broken nose if you slip up.
You'll need a good partner to help you out with that, because they won't let you.
Just a small side note for the people saying this tanto randori shit isn't real.....That's because it isn't. IT'S A GAME! with very particular rules that restrict a lot of real world scenarios. Training for tanto randori and real life self defense are very different
the thing is,the training for self defense knife should be the same.IF it doesnt work in the comp it wont work at all.and it clearly doesnt from looking at the video,everyone here got knifed.
this is horrible grappling, those shitty outside trips and knee blocks would not work on any decent wrestler/grappler This is rubbish. Aikido is baloney.
Actually; he's right on the money. What is shown here is fucking horrible half-assed judo style crappling. Not a single one of the amazing techniques we see in any aikido demonstration are shown during live bouts; wonder why? Reason; they don't fucking work. Secondly, every one of those idiots going up against someone weilding what is presumably a fake knife got stabbed. I'm laughing my ass off; this should be enough to deter anyone from taking gaykido.
Kata tournaments are judged by senior practitioners of this style, based on quality and accuracy of techniques. Decisions are taken by vote of majority among 3 or 5 referees.
If tanto is bent, and the attackers posture is correct, he scores 1 point. You can not convert tanto strikes into punches. Other than that, opponent is allowed to use variations of 17 basic randori techniques. A very significant throw counts as an ippon (4 points), a significant balance break or a weak throw is a wazaari (2 points), and a weak balance break or some few rubbish throws may give a Yuko (1 point). Fouls give negative points.
Yea!..That's almost what it really looks like in battle! Nothing fancy or flashy. Notice the knife attacks! Looked like almost everyone got stuck. That should make a person humble. These competitions are what is needed to test yourself and find weaknesses. Good stuff.
There is a tendency in human beings for dogmatism, parrot-like incantation and sheeplike behaviour. When you say, O-Sensei explicitely said, "No competition in Aikido," do you mean that O-Sensei was a prophet of God and that we should all blindly follow these words without questioning them or else the sky will fall on our heads? I wonder why people imprison themselves. Richard Dawkins, come and liberate Aikido too!
Really, b/c if you read the doctrine it doesn't actually say that. The head of the world is actually a 5th dan in Aikikai.
Read the scrolls yourself, any thing directly from the scrolls I ever seen can be misinterpreted that way, but what it is saying is we should have violence. Most people lump competition into that. We do these out of expanding ourselves, and coming together as brothers.
I dont really know why its rarely heard tbh. & you get in by training hard and getting picked for the GB squad. Or whatever your nationality is. Is that what you ment?
how do you get in, well make sure you do well in the competitions in your own country, and have the luck to be selected for the national team, at least that's what we have to do here in Holland.
This is only clips from the World Games. If you practice aikido you use a variety of different attacks, so there is punches involved and kicks. Also Bokken's (wooden swords) and Jo's (wooden staffs) are the two primary training weapons. I don't think you know much about aikido. Why bother commenting? It isn't choreographed either unless its Open kata & this is when you make up a kata using techniques from other katas or a set koryu
How very articulate! The kind of comment that comes from intellectually lazy minds, lost in the pitfalls of prejudice. Exactly the sort of mind who, say, rejects evolutionary biology in favour of creationism. Like parrots, many traditional Aikidoka will self-congratulatingly, piously, without thought or aptness, repeat their conventionalized "no competition in Aikido." Pity, because there are many wonderful practitioners of Aikikai out there. And many wonderful followers of Tomiki Sensei's way.
Try to marry Islam and Judaeism. Oh! They won't touch each other. They do come from the same place though... And a master is a master when he has taught his disciples so well that they will surpass or even challenge him. Please do inform yourselves about Tomiki Sensei. He was not the Devil incarnate. If your Sensei told you that, he is lied to you. What is he afraid of?
Nice video, I'm a fan! however the calls made by the ref's were wrong. It clearly shows the stab made at 2:14 in the video wasn't the right call. Oh well, I won the match anyway.
And sometimes a wrong call works in your favour. Refs are not machines, they have a split second to make a decision. But it all balances out in the end. It doesn't really matter whether you lose or win. It only matters to the ego. Particularly to a BAA ego.
its shows u what aikido would look like in an actual fight maybe also people slaging it off will shut up now cuz u cna see people on there in tournement disarming people with knifes
Hi! There is some toshu randori in this lot, you have just got to look closely! I have got more toshu stuff from the competition from other people outside the BAA team, I will get their permission to put it up!
Ah, I watched it again and you're right there were a few toshu clips. It would be great if people started making general Shodokan Aikido highlight videos rather than of specific events. There's tons of them out there for Judo and I think it would really help get the word out for Aikido if there were similar ones.
I actually think my senseis are here competing in this video as they are husband and wife, named Gary and Ellen.
rwfong76 7 months ago
i studied Aikido for 3 years in college, first traditional aikido then Tomiki. My experience is this...that Aikido is effective in certain scenarios but is limited. Tomiki is good as you get the randori experience in learning how the techniques are applied in real life to some degree. It is also most effective against someone who doesn't know the martial arts for the most part.. If someone is trained in a grappling art you are screwed.
rwfong76 7 months ago
Once, this classmate of mine grabbed me from behind and all i did was to release the grip, push him with my body while leaving a heel for him to trip, and bam! He fell like 2 metres away, and i was like "dude, that was cool!" Shows that aikido is effective!
andrewasle 1 year ago
They cant defend against a knife? Fail. But I do like aikido
andrewasle 1 year ago
Actually , I did try it, but then I moved kyokushinkai and krav maga :)
Aikido is a bit boring, and nobody is gonna say in a fight " hey m8 let me give you my hand so you can make a nice armbar with it" :)
Duiveltje78 1 year ago
so how do you win? I see judges on a lot of these, but it looks (for the most part) very set piece - except the knife stuff. Are there actual aikido competitions that score points based on takedowns, submissions, etc.?
ghemminger1 1 year ago
Just unrealistic as a plausible martial art. Dont watch the defenders, watch the attackers; they are so static and unrealistic. Real attacks/violence doesnt work like that! Such a middle-class perception of 'using appropriate delf-defense against would-be attackers'. Dont rely on this to work in reality
ocblenheimpl 1 year ago
aikido is not a sport... remember we do not initiate an attack... how can an aikidoka attack another aikidoka if they are both waiting to neutralize an attack. another thing aikido uses joint locks (breaks). how can you finish the opponent if you just evade. you need to make a contact. well we use atemis but their main use is just to outbalance or distract the attacker. Remember we rely on their weight, motion, force to neutralize their own aggressiveness... we are in harmony guyz.
samurailanx 1 year ago
ugly aikido
jarelgran 1 year ago
Everyone who does a martial art thinks theirs is the best. This is a competition of demonstrations not fights against one another. Judo, BJJ, Kickboxing, Taekwondo, boxing all have real comp fights against themselves and each other. All the real life fighters are in UFC not the demonstration ones. Come on fellas, the only way you're gonna get better or get respect is to step into the ring! Don't waste all that training on false hope.
Zeddy100 1 year ago
On Wrestleling mats..Thats sum Crazy shitthere musta been a shitload of broken toes
ReiMonCoH 1 year ago
This is the worst Judo video I've ever seen.
chrishfleming 2 years ago
everyone that insult aikido as the soft martial art. they should try tomiki aikido and do some competition. when u try to counter the locks. However, I bet any style of aikido can beat any martial art. It depends on the person you fight with. Some STUPID people say taht they have beaten an aikidoka and that's why it is a shit. Fight against a sensei, not a new aikidoka
xluigixx 2 years ago
I was invited to fight a sensei. I practiced Wado-Karate for 11 years before and humbly requested a personal demonstration; there wasn't a thing he could do.
This is not because Aikido fails, it's because every one of their dojo always refuses to put it's students in aggressive fights. The ones where the attacker resists, never lets up, and you can end up with a broken nose if you slip up.
You'll need a good partner to help you out with that, because they won't let you.
SirSmokeal0t 2 years ago
these look like planned demonstrations to me, not actual competition
iliketea333 2 years ago
Gr8 vid deekjones21!! The aikido used is brill!! All ukes and toris worked well together!! All techniques executed well!! Go team!!
ChazJenna 2 years ago
Just a small side note for the people saying this tanto randori shit isn't real.....That's because it isn't. IT'S A GAME! with very particular rules that restrict a lot of real world scenarios. Training for tanto randori and real life self defense are very different
jrame 2 years ago 4
the thing is,the training for self defense knife should be the same.IF it doesnt work in the comp it wont work at all.and it clearly doesnt from looking at the video,everyone here got knifed.
billysue2 2 years ago
For those of you who are critising Aikido. HAVE YOU TRIED IT????
aikiliam 2 years ago 3
this is horrible grappling, those shitty outside trips and knee blocks would not work on any decent wrestler/grappler This is rubbish. Aikido is baloney.
foolio550 3 years ago
another internet expert who "knows" what would work and what wouldnt. lol.
Morgothhhh 3 years ago
Actually; he's right on the money. What is shown here is fucking horrible half-assed judo style crappling. Not a single one of the amazing techniques we see in any aikido demonstration are shown during live bouts; wonder why? Reason; they don't fucking work. Secondly, every one of those idiots going up against someone weilding what is presumably a fake knife got stabbed. I'm laughing my ass off; this should be enough to deter anyone from taking gaykido.
Blndrfist 3 years ago
but this is not aikido.... it's tomiki aikido, a hybrid half judo half aikido
skyikky 3 years ago
yeah i know and original aikido is even worse,they dont even spar
billysue2 2 years ago
it is still recognized as an aikido style
xluigixx 2 years ago
no estarias tan seguro si pelearas conmigo
nicolaz0000 3 years ago
Interesting! There isn't much Tomiki Aikido around here in Germany. Good to so some of it on Youtube!
aikikarl 3 years ago
when both of the aikidoks force.. that´s not aikido anymore!
(escuse my english i´m from argentina)
mari22366322 3 years ago
Kata tournaments are judged by senior practitioners of this style, based on quality and accuracy of techniques. Decisions are taken by vote of majority among 3 or 5 referees.
ShodokanAikido 3 years ago
This is Tomiki, right? How do they decide if the attack succeeds? Judge call? Pressure sensor on top of the tanto? Something else?
(With sharp knifes, it would be easy :-) )
Derukugi2 3 years ago
If tanto is bent, and the attackers posture is correct, he scores 1 point. You can not convert tanto strikes into punches. Other than that, opponent is allowed to use variations of 17 basic randori techniques. A very significant throw counts as an ippon (4 points), a significant balance break or a weak throw is a wazaari (2 points), and a weak balance break or some few rubbish throws may give a Yuko (1 point). Fouls give negative points.
ShodokanAikido 3 years ago
Yea!..That's almost what it really looks like in battle! Nothing fancy or flashy. Notice the knife attacks! Looked like almost everyone got stuck. That should make a person humble. These competitions are what is needed to test yourself and find weaknesses. Good stuff.
Bujin63 3 years ago
directly in aikido cant be contact. says morihei ueshiba
busquetscasca 3 years ago
There is a tendency in human beings for dogmatism, parrot-like incantation and sheeplike behaviour. When you say, O-Sensei explicitely said, "No competition in Aikido," do you mean that O-Sensei was a prophet of God and that we should all blindly follow these words without questioning them or else the sky will fall on our heads? I wonder why people imprison themselves. Richard Dawkins, come and liberate Aikido too!
CaesarNeverSaidThat 3 years ago
As far as the world tournaments go, I thought that people could also register individually. The next one is in September 2009 in Kyoto, Japan.
CaesarNeverSaidThat 3 years ago
Nothing of Josh or I playing with your boys? Makes me sad.
nolispe 3 years ago
isnt aikido.
busquetscasca 3 years ago
Hahaha, it is very much aikido.
What form do you practice?
nolispe 3 years ago
im from spain , i practice the aikido from o sensei. he explicity say , aikido CANT do competition. Tomiki aikido is between judo and aiki-jutsu
busquetscasca 3 years ago
Really, b/c if you read the doctrine it doesn't actually say that. The head of the world is actually a 5th dan in Aikikai.
Read the scrolls yourself, any thing directly from the scrolls I ever seen can be misinterpreted that way, but what it is saying is we should have violence. Most people lump competition into that. We do these out of expanding ourselves, and coming together as brothers.
nolispe 3 years ago
Really? There's scrolls to be interpreted in aikido?
Man, this seems more and more like a religion every time I encounter it...
stayhidden 3 years ago
I dont really know why its rarely heard tbh. & you get in by training hard and getting picked for the GB squad. Or whatever your nationality is. Is that what you ment?
Minipork14 3 years ago
wow, world games for aikido :D how come its rarely heard? and how do you get in?
bushidonomugen 3 years ago
how do you get in, well make sure you do well in the competitions in your own country, and have the luck to be selected for the national team, at least that's what we have to do here in Holland.
fryskhanne 3 years ago
Thats because its not boxing or karate :S
What did you expect?
This is only clips from the World Games. If you practice aikido you use a variety of different attacks, so there is punches involved and kicks. Also Bokken's (wooden swords) and Jo's (wooden staffs) are the two primary training weapons. I don't think you know much about aikido. Why bother commenting? It isn't choreographed either unless its Open kata & this is when you make up a kata using techniques from other katas or a set koryu
Minipork14 3 years ago
aikido is a friggin joke, theres no sparring, only gay choreographys
Traconiz 3 years ago
lol you definitely never tried it, that´s why you have this oppinion.
fusionsmarty 3 years ago
... this is Tomiki Ryu is based on sparing. Where are you from, you should come try it out.
nolispe 3 years ago
Well done chris :) Nice throw. (2:38)
fastfreddytyke 3 years ago
I didn't know they used bananas in aikido...(1:58)
jeepee2 3 years ago
it's tomiki style..
o'sensei( founder of aikido) not accept this style..cz aikido not for competition...
zivotube 3 years ago
How very articulate! The kind of comment that comes from intellectually lazy minds, lost in the pitfalls of prejudice. Exactly the sort of mind who, say, rejects evolutionary biology in favour of creationism. Like parrots, many traditional Aikidoka will self-congratulatingly, piously, without thought or aptness, repeat their conventionalized "no competition in Aikido." Pity, because there are many wonderful practitioners of Aikikai out there. And many wonderful followers of Tomiki Sensei's way.
CaesarNeverSaidThat 3 years ago
Try to marry Islam and Judaeism. Oh! They won't touch each other. They do come from the same place though... And a master is a master when he has taught his disciples so well that they will surpass or even challenge him. Please do inform yourselves about Tomiki Sensei. He was not the Devil incarnate. If your Sensei told you that, he is lied to you. What is he afraid of?
CaesarNeverSaidThat 3 years ago
2.14 was clearly a strike, gutted.
monkeyboydan 4 years ago
Nice video, I'm a fan! however the calls made by the ref's were wrong. It clearly shows the stab made at 2:14 in the video wasn't the right call. Oh well, I won the match anyway.
eliq123 4 years ago
And sometimes a wrong call works in your favour. Refs are not machines, they have a split second to make a decision. But it all balances out in the end. It doesn't really matter whether you lose or win. It only matters to the ego. Particularly to a BAA ego.
CaesarNeverSaidThat 3 years ago
What BAA ego?
There is no such thing!
*notices giant floating thing in front of him*
Oh... yeah that one...
nolispe 3 years ago
its shows u what aikido would look like in an actual fight maybe also people slaging it off will shut up now cuz u cna see people on there in tournement disarming people with knifes
sowterg 4 years ago
this is a good 1 becouse it actuly shows what aikido would look like in a real life fight
sowterg 4 years ago
I don't really understand...
Wasn't aikido a non-competitive martial art?
I can barely understand a kata competition for aikido, but can't completely understand a kumite competition...
Can anyone explain, please?
kazuya80jp 4 years ago
Good stuff! Is anyone ever going to put up any toshu randori though?
rainnyx4 4 years ago
Hi! There is some toshu randori in this lot, you have just got to look closely! I have got more toshu stuff from the competition from other people outside the BAA team, I will get their permission to put it up!
deekjones21 4 years ago
Ah, I watched it again and you're right there were a few toshu clips. It would be great if people started making general Shodokan Aikido highlight videos rather than of specific events. There's tons of them out there for Judo and I think it would really help get the word out for Aikido if there were similar ones.
rainnyx4 4 years ago
nunca habia visto competiciones de aikido alguien puede compartir mas de lo mismo
aikisven 4 years ago