@JWMusamay996mb IMO,Hakeem isn't the best center ever. That title belongs to Wilt Chamberlain. There's also Bill Russell and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who were both better than Hakeem. However, I would say Olujawon was the most versatile center ever.
@327372 Go watch the game tapes, dude. most of the classic 80s Celtic games are on youtube these days. Go watch for yourself. McHale was a lethal low-post scorer, the most dominant in the game in the period between Kareem's decline and Hakeem's rise to prominence.
@327372 Ask a teammate of Olajuwon's, Charles Barkley. He says Mchale not only had the best post moves ever, but was the best player he ever saw. Probably why his fg% is so much higher.
Patrick Ewing was the only center who could hold his own against Olajuwon. Shaq got his dunks in, but he couldn't guard him if his life depended on it, and everyone knows how David Robinson was destroyed. Ewing and the Kinicks probably would have taken the title in 94 had Pat Riley benched John Starks instead of letting that 2-for-18 disaster happen.
Ewing was consistently owned by Olajuwon...look at game 1 of the 94 Finals. The Knicks only got back into the series b/c they switched and put Anthony Mason on Olajuwon. Ewing never could guard Hakeem, period.
Sick move, he did 3 steps though, but I don't care. After he picked up the bal,, did a right step, a left one, and a right one. He did a great pivot, but it was travel before that though
@woutakasinistra Are you talking about before he picks up his dribble? Don't see it. He keeps his left foot, his pivot, planted on the second step. He never takes a third step. Had he taken 3 he could've went straight up for a dunk b/c he'd have been under the rim. You can't be talking about the move after he stops b/c he keeps his plant foot (the left) as his pivot and never changes.
Shaq is so unskilled it's not even funny. This is a big man that made a game out of fancy footwork and crossover dribbles and fade away jumpers. Shaq just drops his shoulder and forces his way in.
ok smartguy, its impossible to compare different ages... but be sure that no person on planet could ever guard shaq when he was in his prime.. Those playoff numbers were unbelievable.. I dont know how can anyone putt russell in top 3just WTF.. he wasnt the top center when he played, his rings were team play.. he was a defensive moster, but I'm talking about efficiency here
Shaq was a great player in his prime. Those numbers are just absolutely BEASTLY, and his scoring efficiency was amazing. My point wasn't that Shaq isn't great, it's just that he was 7'1", 350+ lbs in his career. He was pretty much the all time biggest basketball player. Oh, and he does that whole thing where he swings his elbows around whenever he gets a rebound.
Russel gets the nod for being the best player on the most dominant team of all time (1957-1969 Boston Celtics).
I possibly exaggerated his lack of skill, cause he does have some nice moves, but he was absolutely ineffective more than a few feet out. His bread and butter is that he barrels into his defender with his shoulder. He was so unstoppable because he was so huge. If he was actually really skilled, he'd be a lot more effective today. He isn't Kareem Abdul Jabbar or something.
We can just sit here and call each other "fuckin idiot"s but from where I'm sitting, you have nothing to go on.
@oneman91 Shaw is not as AGILE as Olajuwon. Look at their defense (lateral quickness, pick and roll defense, switching direction) Shaq was fast for his size, though.
I didn't say Shaq was quicker, i said just as quick...I agree Olajuwon's defense blows Shaq's defense out of the water though despite Shaq's great athletic gifts...Shaq's defense was something I always didn't like about him (His worst defensive years came in '97 and '98 when the Jazz exposed his pick n roll defense)
Though a lot of his offense covered what he lacked on defense
wtf? have you ever seen young Shaq? From his Orlando days to his early years with the Lakers? Dribbling full court, spin and finish at the basket with a thunderous two handed jam?....not even Olajuwon has that kind of speed and power....and Shaq doing it at 7 ft 300 pounds was impossible....young Shaq was just as quick and agile as Hakeem was; don't let today's version of Shaq cloud YOUR judgement
@oneman91 You need to go back and check at how fast Hakeem low post moves were and how fast he moved his feet, and dont come back at me with bullshit unless you do that! Shaq was Never fast like Hakeem, you retarted?
I've seen Hakeem play in his prime, and Shaq with Orlando and LA in his early days....Shaq at his physical prime was just as fast and quick as Hakeem...
Im not denying Hakeem's quickness, I'm just saying that Shaq was just as fast with a bigger frame....don't be riding Olajuwon's dick
Uh..so? Shaq averaged 28 ppg and shot a higher % than Olajuwon did...Shaq also put Hakeem on quite a few posters as well if you remember it so well..gotta do better than the '95 Finals dude....I could also speak about how depressing Olajuwon's finals years with the Rockets are, and his Raptor season..wow now that's embarrassing...funny how with all of Olajuwon's skills, Hakeem's stats his last 4 yrs in the league (98-02) was actually worse than Shaq's last 4 years ('06-10)..lmao
@oneman91 Right and Hakeem just had a more blocks steals assist and a better freethrow than shaq! And you think shaq could have taken the 94 rockets to the finals HELL No. Even mj had to say that Hakeem was the best ever go ahead and look it up
The whole point i was making at first was that Shaq was just as quick and fast as Hakeem, you're starting to get into a Shaq vs. Olajuwon deal now...IDC if Shaq can't take that '94 Rockets team to the Finals, heck i don't even think Jordan could've took that '94 team to the finals....and Shaq did not get outplayed in '95, and yes i do think Hakeem could've beaten the '94 Bulls with Michael on the team...happy? i'm out
You're supporting Olajuwon and you don't think they could've beat the Bulls? The Bulls were lucky to get past Phoenix in '93,...Olajuwon would destroy the Bulls bigs like Shaq did in '95...it'd be over in 6 games...the Bulls never encountered a dominant center like Olajuwon in the playoffs before, and when they did, they got beat by Shaq and the Magic...hence why they went out and got Rodman in '96..the Rockets would've stalled MJ and Bulls in '94
@oneman91 olajuwon outscored him every game how is that not getting outplayed, plus he swept shaq when shaq had a lot more help on his team than hakeem.
hakeem had clyde. shaq had grant, penny, and nick anderson
shaq never got a quadruple double, hakeem was one assist away from getting it twice.
shaq never won without kobe or dwade. hakeem won with just one all star past his prime, in a much more competitive era.
shaq admits that hakeem is better than him, and MJ said dream is the best c evr
Russel was the poster child for lack of fundamentals. "if Bill learns how to play basketball they will have to change the rules." Chamberlain was also a worse foul shooter then Shaq is, and actually Shaq has a pretty good hook shot, and was, (when he was young), fast and athletic for someone so large.
I actually think Shaq as a person is a thug, and i love Hakeem, but come on Shaq is more then just a really strong, fat guy. Or atleast he was.
@mhernandez94 Oh yeah, he was a good passer. I didn't meant to say 10 months ago that he wasn't. From a scoring perspective, he didn't need any creativity or skill- he would just push his way to the hoop.
And no, Chuck Hayes is not the best post-defender in the NBA. That's preposterous.
@mhernandez94 Actually, you said that he's "probably the best." I can read fine. You need to learn to write what you mean. He's a good post defender, but not probably the best. According to synergy sports, Chuck Hayes ranked 24th among centers in points allowed per possession (PPP) in post-up situations. I know that synergy isn't the final word on everything, but he doesn't even rank as being good at it. His defenders score easily on him. Dwight, Timmy, Horford, Nene, Perk all rank at the top.
@Kurasuke oops i read my other comment lol my bad. but hayes is a very underrated defender. considering his size, he does an outstanding job of making it the hardest to score the ball for centers. you should watch one of his highlight mixes here on youtube. and btw dwight and nene don't belong there on your list. overrated defenders. and don't make dwight's 2 un-earned DPLOY awards his excuse. all he does is block shots... if he doesn't foul, which is rare.
@mhernandez94 I didn't make up the list. It's the Synergy list of points per possession allowed. Dwight and Horford both allow well under .8 PPP in post up situations. Nene is under .9. .9 is equivalent to shooting 45%. Hayes is at .92. I was simply reporting these numbers to you- if anything, Hayes is the overrated defender. It's actually really easy to score on him, but he gets a lot of steals. I think his defensive +/- is really good or something, though.
I love it when people invent irrelevant arguments to justify their positions. This is the most specious point ever. You ALWAYS play against whoever is playing AT THAT TIME. So all baseball since Babe Ruth should have an asterisk? Any NHL wins outside of Gretsky's era are suspect? Ok, then Jordan didn't play against Dr. J in his prime or Wilt or Russell. Just as ridiculous an argument.
The Dream Shake! Olajuwon vs. Robinson. "The Admiral" won the MVP that season, but Olajuwon showed him who the real MVP is in this series! This is a video i've been trying to find for a while! I know this took place during the 1995 Western Conference Finals and that Houston beat San Antonio in six games, but does anybody know which game this was taken from?
my idol growing up and the best big man ever. Wilt had more power, kareem had more finese, but hakeem was a mixture of power,finese,and grace. and could shoot, from the 93-94 season he once hit 6 threes in a row, how many centers have ever done that?
He never got as much pub because of his foreign. Could you imagine if he was raised in america? he would be as popular as jordan, and also he didnt pick up a ball until he was 15!
...i would also like to add --- there were only 4 recorded quadruple doubles in NBA history---both Hakeem and david are in the party---but there should have been a 5th recorded quadruple double once again belonging to hakeem but the league refused to fix the mistake!
true dat, they only awarded him 9 assists. the other two people to do it were nate thurmond and alvin robertson (who did it with steals instead of blocks)
I know, that's why I followed Robertson's name with the parenthesis, sorry for the confusion (it's hard to convey correct pauses through text), but I am quite aware of Thurmond's quad with 12 blocks.
The only way that David Robinson, Patrick Ewing, and Tim Duncan have any chance of being equal to Hakeem is if The Dream took a shit and they ate it, allowing a fraction of Hakeem's greatness to be transferred to them.
Unfortunately, they are not even remotely worthy of eating his shit.
Yeah he had the stats and the rings but the only reason why he functioned on the Bulls and the Pistons was because of (#1)Jordan and (#2)the fact that he was still in the right frame of mind in Detroit. He did things however he wanted at the expense of the team. He was a cancer. Look at the past 10 years. No one wanted him despite winning 5 rings because they knew what they were getting. Even Jordan admitted having problems working with him. Stats dont mean a thing if you cant work with people.
ppl can say they want about david robinson but the fact is, david wasnt a bad center at all, its just one of those times u run into a force that is just better then u. u gotta remember hakeem has been playing with mostly average team mates most of his career, but u see just how much more dangerous he is when u have another go to guy like drexler.
If only hakeem had a drexler or a barkley in his young days damn it would be such a scary thing for the league. This is how i look at all the great players.
jordan had pippen and phil jackson.
Russel Had Prolly the best surrounding cast in nba history and was playing at a time when the league wasnt as good.
Shaq and Kobie had each other and a good surrounding cast same goes for duncan.
Where hakeem won his rings with an average group and an old drexler.
What ppl seem to oversee about hakeem and the way he won his 2 championships is the surround cast he had to win these rings with and how many tough teams he had to face just to get to the finals just to meat another great team such as the knicks and there awesome surrounding cast and patrick ewing and orlando who had an awesome team aswell with shaq and penny hardaway. This is why hakeem in my opinion is the best center to play the game and id rank him second best all around player next to MJ.
i disagree. the average player puts forth the average effort. he played in a team full guys that wanted it more than the opposition...and the first was without the "old drexler"
You cant blame David for all the problems with that team. David put that franchise on his back for 10 years until Tim came. Olajuwan was much more dominant for one thing and David had a poor supporting cast. They also didnt have any good defensive scheme wich is why Pop took over(Thank God). If there is anyone who bailed out on the team it was Rodman. And if you watched the 99 team David had stones alright spearheading the defense on a 15-2 title team. .
Olajuwon will always be better than shaq because he based his dominance on pure skill and talent. Of course, the players who were also like this are jordan, kobe and mcgrady.
I wouldn't put lebron nor shaq in it because they base their dominance on strength. This means once they get to around 28, their prime will not be as good as their younger years, unlike players like jordan.
This was a team effort.Remember Robinson getting double and triple teamed when he had the ball.Robinson wasn't getting help.Vinny Del Negro and Chuck Person were missing open shots badly.Avery Johnson couldn't hit a jumper outside a layup and Rodman played like he didn't want to play for the Spurs anymore and coach Bob Hill didn't make the right calls a coach should thats why he got fired and that's why he lost the following year to the Jazz he did have a good team to beat Houston.
robinson was good man. but that playoff series really engraved who was the better player. olajuwon was a champion who took over games no matter who (including the admiral) tried to stop him, robinson was just a good player.
ps. i know he won later, but that was duncans team.
Hakeem was the best once Jordan left, for the next two three years. at the time there was arguments...but now it's much clearer. The rockets' playoff run culminating in the sweep of the Magic in the finals was legendary - they were the fifth seed in the west, the lowest seed ever to win an NBA championship. And remember, Hakeem was America's favorite - a muslim!
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This guy is perverse. He makes decisions like George Bush. Upside down and opposite ways. The truth is David Robinson was a wet guy. I think actually he was a homosexual. You know, he was in the navy and all. so maybe he was all over Olajuwon. I guess that's what you meant?
in my opinion, david robinson is one of the most overrated players of all time, and he only won because he played with the great tim duncan.
catfrycat 1 week ago
Thats was not a postmove
yoyoyoitsfunnyman 1 month ago
@yoyoyoitsfunnyman He scored while in the low post.
MrDen312 1 day ago
Easily the greatest Big-Man low post sequence of all time
washingtonkay 1 month ago
@JWMusamay996mb IMO,Hakeem isn't the best center ever. That title belongs to Wilt Chamberlain. There's also Bill Russell and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who were both better than Hakeem. However, I would say Olujawon was the most versatile center ever.
ttawk97 2 months ago
This is why I make the argument Hakeem is the best center ever
JWMusamay996mb 2 months ago
this is the best post move in NBA history
DaB1ggestB0ss 3 months ago
That is really good, I wish I could do that
Jokerz199 3 months ago
had my man doin jumping jacks.
roscoegino 4 months ago
LeBron just "Olajuwon'd" Derrick Rose
Paragon231 8 months ago
@Paragon231 wut u mean? lebron still lost in the finals.
327372 7 months ago
They don't make centers like these in the NBA anymore
sgtpepper2345 8 months ago
only a great soccer player can make that kind of move and Hakeem used to play soccer.
molonlave2010 9 months ago
Didn't Robinson win MVP that year?? Oh well Hakeem showed who is really the MVP.
kimmy1984 9 months ago
Hakeem and Kevin McHale are the two best low post scorers I have ever seen
goodmorningcapt1 11 months ago 7
@goodmorningcapt1 i think ur right! none better than those 2.
teesteven 10 months ago
@goodmorningcapt1 dont ever put kevin mchale in the same sentence as hakeem the dream. ur disrespecting hakeem like dat
327372 7 months ago
@327372 Go watch the game tapes, dude. most of the classic 80s Celtic games are on youtube these days. Go watch for yourself. McHale was a lethal low-post scorer, the most dominant in the game in the period between Kareem's decline and Hakeem's rise to prominence.
goodmorningcapt1 7 months ago
@327372 Ask a teammate of Olajuwon's, Charles Barkley. He says Mchale not only had the best post moves ever, but was the best player he ever saw. Probably why his fg% is so much higher.
Dimaggio369 6 months ago
PWNED
iamdre17 1 year ago
lol nene isnt that good bro
aznxwarlock 1 year ago
probably the best move ever thinked by a post player
bigmez83 1 year ago
David Robinson looked like he was in no mans land.
Laker4life100 1 year ago
Patrick Ewing was the only center who could hold his own against Olajuwon. Shaq got his dunks in, but he couldn't guard him if his life depended on it, and everyone knows how David Robinson was destroyed. Ewing and the Kinicks probably would have taken the title in 94 had Pat Riley benched John Starks instead of letting that 2-for-18 disaster happen.
badnasan 1 year ago
@badnasan
Ewing was consistently owned by Olajuwon...look at game 1 of the 94 Finals. The Knicks only got back into the series b/c they switched and put Anthony Mason on Olajuwon. Ewing never could guard Hakeem, period.
drwood04 1 year ago
Sick move, he did 3 steps though, but I don't care. After he picked up the bal,, did a right step, a left one, and a right one. He did a great pivot, but it was travel before that though
woutakasinistra 1 year ago
@woutakasinistra Are you talking about before he picks up his dribble? Don't see it. He keeps his left foot, his pivot, planted on the second step. He never takes a third step. Had he taken 3 he could've went straight up for a dunk b/c he'd have been under the rim. You can't be talking about the move after he stops b/c he keeps his plant foot (the left) as his pivot and never changes.
Vergadoce 1 year ago
Dream Shake FTW!
TheSurefireGamer 1 year ago
double fake :)
heartbreakdrakemusic 1 year ago
My favorite big man of all time..
IvoSelf 1 year ago 2
This.
My main combo. Jab step. Drive. Cross over. Pass fake. Up and Under. Lay up.
XGregorio 1 year ago
BTW, just look at Tim Duncan.
He's a center playing power forward, less strenuous, and his game is already deteriorating at 34.
Shaq won another title at 34 with Miami goin almost 20 pt with 10 boards a game.
posteriordepression1 1 year ago
LOL @kurasuke
You know that Wilt Chamberlain ran 10.5 in the 100 and BTW, have you seen Shaq 95-2002???
If you had watched the games, you would know how nifty Shaq is. Shaq is 38 now, yes, name me a few NBA superstars playing well at 38.
PS, Kareem is good but he was not force of nature like Shaq or Wilt.
He simply had a longer career
posteriordepression1 1 year ago
wow that was fucking sick move
imbobsaget 2 years ago 3
a center with fancy footworks.i gta learn that dream shake...
Lightning3695 2 years ago
That was a thing of beauty.
Kurasuke 2 years ago
best center ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2nd: jabbar
3rd:chamberlain
puljacina 2 years ago 2
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shaq is the most dominant
jplaya2023 2 years ago
Says Shaq.
Shaq is so unskilled it's not even funny. This is a big man that made a game out of fancy footwork and crossover dribbles and fade away jumpers. Shaq just drops his shoulder and forces his way in.
Kurasuke 2 years ago 3
Don't matter shaq is a more efficient scorer he flat out is unstoppable
jplaya2023 2 years ago
Not anymore. Now he's just a slow, fat man that slows down any offense. He made both the Suns and has made the Cavs worse.
The only people that like Shaq are casual basketball fans.
Kurasuke 2 years ago
Funny you mentioned old Shaq sucks
Olajuwon with the Raptors.....now that's a tragedy...lmao
oneman91 2 years ago
wow wow wow SHAQ unskiled!>!?!?!?!?!WTF he has the second best technique in NBA history after Dream.. boy, learn about bball
fraka899 2 years ago
LOL
Shaq was all brawn, no brains.
KG, Jabbar, Russel all had/have more technique than Shaq. I include KG because his primary move is a take off on the Dream Shake.
Yes- unskilled is too strong a word for Shaq, but "Second best technique" is a farce. Shaq is a top 5 center, not a top 3 center.
Kurasuke 2 years ago 5
ok smartguy, its impossible to compare different ages... but be sure that no person on planet could ever guard shaq when he was in his prime.. Those playoff numbers were unbelievable.. I dont know how can anyone putt russell in top 3just WTF.. he wasnt the top center when he played, his rings were team play.. he was a defensive moster, but I'm talking about efficiency here
fraka899 2 years ago
Shaq was a great player in his prime. Those numbers are just absolutely BEASTLY, and his scoring efficiency was amazing. My point wasn't that Shaq isn't great, it's just that he was 7'1", 350+ lbs in his career. He was pretty much the all time biggest basketball player. Oh, and he does that whole thing where he swings his elbows around whenever he gets a rebound.
Russel gets the nod for being the best player on the most dominant team of all time (1957-1969 Boston Celtics).
Kurasuke 2 years ago
Haha if u think Shaq was just great cuz he was big you are a fuckin idiot
Name me another player in NBA history who was that big that can move like Shaq
Michael Olowokandi was 7 ft and 300 pds yet he couldn't do shit...same with all the other dumbass 7 ft 300 pound players
damn if I was that big and can move like Shaq who the hell needs Olajuwon's fancy footwork
Not to mention Shaq is like 50 pounds heavier yet just as quick
oneman91 2 years ago
I possibly exaggerated his lack of skill, cause he does have some nice moves, but he was absolutely ineffective more than a few feet out. His bread and butter is that he barrels into his defender with his shoulder. He was so unstoppable because he was so huge. If he was actually really skilled, he'd be a lot more effective today. He isn't Kareem Abdul Jabbar or something.
We can just sit here and call each other "fuckin idiot"s but from where I'm sitting, you have nothing to go on.
Kurasuke 2 years ago
@oneman91 Shaw is not as AGILE as Olajuwon. Look at their defense (lateral quickness, pick and roll defense, switching direction) Shaq was fast for his size, though.
some1x 1 year ago
@some1x
I didn't say Shaq was quicker, i said just as quick...I agree Olajuwon's defense blows Shaq's defense out of the water though despite Shaq's great athletic gifts...Shaq's defense was something I always didn't like about him (His worst defensive years came in '97 and '98 when the Jazz exposed his pick n roll defense)
Though a lot of his offense covered what he lacked on defense
oneman91 1 year ago
@oneman91 Shaq was never quick like Olajuwon was, you fuckiing crazy? stop smoking that shit, its fucking with your judgement!
NegroXFile 1 year ago
@NegroXFile
wtf? have you ever seen young Shaq? From his Orlando days to his early years with the Lakers? Dribbling full court, spin and finish at the basket with a thunderous two handed jam?....not even Olajuwon has that kind of speed and power....and Shaq doing it at 7 ft 300 pounds was impossible....young Shaq was just as quick and agile as Hakeem was; don't let today's version of Shaq cloud YOUR judgement
oneman91 1 year ago
@oneman91 You need to go back and check at how fast Hakeem low post moves were and how fast he moved his feet, and dont come back at me with bullshit unless you do that! Shaq was Never fast like Hakeem, you retarted?
NegroXFile 1 year ago
@NegroXFile
I've seen Hakeem play in his prime, and Shaq with Orlando and LA in his early days....Shaq at his physical prime was just as fast and quick as Hakeem...
Im not denying Hakeem's quickness, I'm just saying that Shaq was just as fast with a bigger frame....don't be riding Olajuwon's dick
oneman91 1 year ago
@oneman91 Uhhh yea and Hakeem swept his big ass in the finals
crazybros100 1 year ago
@crazybros100
Uh..so? Shaq averaged 28 ppg and shot a higher % than Olajuwon did...Shaq also put Hakeem on quite a few posters as well if you remember it so well..gotta do better than the '95 Finals dude....I could also speak about how depressing Olajuwon's finals years with the Rockets are, and his Raptor season..wow now that's embarrassing...funny how with all of Olajuwon's skills, Hakeem's stats his last 4 yrs in the league (98-02) was actually worse than Shaq's last 4 years ('06-10)..lmao
oneman91 1 year ago
@oneman91 and thats why hakeem swept shaqs big ass
crazybros100 1 year ago
@oneman91 Right and Hakeem just had a more blocks steals assist and a better freethrow than shaq! And you think shaq could have taken the 94 rockets to the finals HELL No. Even mj had to say that Hakeem was the best ever go ahead and look it up
crazybros100 1 year ago
@crazybros100
The whole point i was making at first was that Shaq was just as quick and fast as Hakeem, you're starting to get into a Shaq vs. Olajuwon deal now...IDC if Shaq can't take that '94 Rockets team to the Finals, heck i don't even think Jordan could've took that '94 team to the finals....and Shaq did not get outplayed in '95, and yes i do think Hakeem could've beaten the '94 Bulls with Michael on the team...happy? i'm out
oneman91 1 year ago
@oneman91 I dont im glad jordan retired lol
crazybros100 1 year ago
@crazybros100
You're supporting Olajuwon and you don't think they could've beat the Bulls? The Bulls were lucky to get past Phoenix in '93,...Olajuwon would destroy the Bulls bigs like Shaq did in '95...it'd be over in 6 games...the Bulls never encountered a dominant center like Olajuwon in the playoffs before, and when they did, they got beat by Shaq and the Magic...hence why they went out and got Rodman in '96..the Rockets would've stalled MJ and Bulls in '94
oneman91 1 year ago
@oneman91 olajuwon outscored him every game how is that not getting outplayed, plus he swept shaq when shaq had a lot more help on his team than hakeem.
hakeem had clyde. shaq had grant, penny, and nick anderson
shaq never got a quadruple double, hakeem was one assist away from getting it twice.
shaq never won without kobe or dwade. hakeem won with just one all star past his prime, in a much more competitive era.
shaq admits that hakeem is better than him, and MJ said dream is the best c evr
bermudacuba 1 year ago
@oneman91 Ehh we will never know. Now if yao can get it together
crazybros100 1 year ago
Russel was the poster child for lack of fundamentals. "if Bill learns how to play basketball they will have to change the rules." Chamberlain was also a worse foul shooter then Shaq is, and actually Shaq has a pretty good hook shot, and was, (when he was young), fast and athletic for someone so large.
I actually think Shaq as a person is a thug, and i love Hakeem, but come on Shaq is more then just a really strong, fat guy. Or atleast he was.
Jrotten11 2 years ago
Chamberlain and Shaq were fairly similar- very great players, bigger than everyone else, and terrible shooters.
Kurasuke 2 years ago
@Kurasuke you obviously never watched shaq because you would know that he was one of the greatest passers at his height.
mhernandez94 1 year ago
@mhernandez94 Oh yeah, he was a good passer. I didn't meant to say 10 months ago that he wasn't. From a scoring perspective, he didn't need any creativity or skill- he would just push his way to the hoop.
And no, Chuck Hayes is not the best post-defender in the NBA. That's preposterous.
Kurasuke 1 year ago
@Kurasuke i said one of them. you need to learn how to read bro.
mhernandez94 1 year ago
@mhernandez94 Actually, you said that he's "probably the best." I can read fine. You need to learn to write what you mean. He's a good post defender, but not probably the best. According to synergy sports, Chuck Hayes ranked 24th among centers in points allowed per possession (PPP) in post-up situations. I know that synergy isn't the final word on everything, but he doesn't even rank as being good at it. His defenders score easily on him. Dwight, Timmy, Horford, Nene, Perk all rank at the top.
Kurasuke 1 year ago
@Kurasuke oops i read my other comment lol my bad. but hayes is a very underrated defender. considering his size, he does an outstanding job of making it the hardest to score the ball for centers. you should watch one of his highlight mixes here on youtube. and btw dwight and nene don't belong there on your list. overrated defenders. and don't make dwight's 2 un-earned DPLOY awards his excuse. all he does is block shots... if he doesn't foul, which is rare.
mhernandez94 1 year ago
@mhernandez94 I didn't make up the list. It's the Synergy list of points per possession allowed. Dwight and Horford both allow well under .8 PPP in post up situations. Nene is under .9. .9 is equivalent to shooting 45%. Hayes is at .92. I was simply reporting these numbers to you- if anything, Hayes is the overrated defender. It's actually really easy to score on him, but he gets a lot of steals. I think his defensive +/- is really good or something, though.
Kurasuke 1 year ago
really? cuz he only won when jordan was out of the league
jmordan 2 years ago
I love it when people invent irrelevant arguments to justify their positions. This is the most specious point ever. You ALWAYS play against whoever is playing AT THAT TIME. So all baseball since Babe Ruth should have an asterisk? Any NHL wins outside of Gretsky's era are suspect? Ok, then Jordan didn't play against Dr. J in his prime or Wilt or Russell. Just as ridiculous an argument.
Jalfmar3 2 years ago 2
and they say yao is a skilled center
benjaminlee92 2 years ago
Just Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ashokapk 2 years ago
Dream put David in the popcorn machine
nycblaze 2 years ago 17
A thing of beauty
hirudold 2 years ago
he went fast.
lightingspeed13 2 years ago
That one of the greatest moves ever in the post. I learnd how to do it and it my fav one to use in the post. It works more than half of the time.
scatman813 2 years ago
That was beautiful. Is there anything more beautiful in basketball than watching a big-man go to work?
Ginga 2 years ago 3
The Dream Shake! Olajuwon vs. Robinson. "The Admiral" won the MVP that season, but Olajuwon showed him who the real MVP is in this series! This is a video i've been trying to find for a while! I know this took place during the 1995 Western Conference Finals and that Houston beat San Antonio in six games, but does anybody know which game this was taken from?
mcneal78 2 years ago 4
It was game 5.
BlinkPunk5 2 years ago
Thanks for your help! Have a great day!
mcneal78 2 years ago
It was Game 2
watch?v=BYFV06e2blE
4:10 - 4:16
hirudold 2 years ago
The Dream Shake at its best right there
thereason222 2 years ago
I love this move. People love the crazy dunks and all that, these are my favorite kind of basketball highlights
CoretezTheKiller 2 years ago 2
Damn
GtownBigBootyLover 2 years ago
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who the fuck is this guy? old hags
majiicpu3D 2 years ago
Lol good thing you know basketball.
RiceMonger 2 years ago
If you dont know who this is maji, then you dont even know the first thing about the game.
Urbanz1975 2 years ago 2
thats the dumbest shit ive heard, and dumbass i was talking about the posers comment, not the players
majiicpu3D 2 years ago
if you dont know who the fuck this guy is....you shouldn't be watching this video....
KiPwnNubs 2 years ago 2
ywilt chamberlain
jeakkroggg 2 years ago
ummmm
TWO OF THE GREATEST CENTERS TO EVR PLAY IN THE NBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aznpowerdaniel 2 years ago
Olajuwan is the best ever. Go Phi Slama Jama!
jawmessenger 2 years ago 4
Amen !
biddybizzell 2 years ago
I spent hours as a kid trying to perfect that move. Never happened. I miss getting to watch THE DREAM.
bwcook3430 2 years ago 3
cool its awesome that he did that without accidentaly travelling he's awesome without a doubt that he's the best Center that ever lived
jblong2711 2 years ago 3
my idol growing up and the best big man ever. Wilt had more power, kareem had more finese, but hakeem was a mixture of power,finese,and grace. and could shoot, from the 93-94 season he once hit 6 threes in a row, how many centers have ever done that?
He never got as much pub because of his foreign. Could you imagine if he was raised in america? he would be as popular as jordan, and also he didnt pick up a ball until he was 15!
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Traveling
willfucker 3 years ago
Will, all you have to do it watch the ball, he did not travel. He did that move for 15 years, please...get a life dude.
Urbanz1975 2 years ago 3
Also, he has a foot planted the entire time dipshit.
Urbanz1975 2 years ago 3
he kept his pivot foot
pokemonrules159 2 years ago
He has such fuckin' good foot work!!
boss12 3 years ago 3
Drob couldn't even see where he was going
haloguyfreak10 3 years ago
wow... just a amazing move... so fast
haloguyfreak10 3 years ago 2
...i would also like to add --- there were only 4 recorded quadruple doubles in NBA history---both Hakeem and david are in the party---but there should have been a 5th recorded quadruple double once again belonging to hakeem but the league refused to fix the mistake!
fromyourztruly 3 years ago 4
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nah...
Godsprimechoice 3 years ago
true dat, they only awarded him 9 assists. the other two people to do it were nate thurmond and alvin robertson (who did it with steals instead of blocks)
MrWarbear1226 3 years ago
Actually no, only Alvin Robertson ever did it with steals. Nate Thurmond's quad was with 12 blocks.
jdlund 2 years ago
I know, that's why I followed Robertson's name with the parenthesis, sorry for the confusion (it's hard to convey correct pauses through text), but I am quite aware of Thurmond's quad with 12 blocks.
MrWarbear1226 2 years ago
Actually, Olajuwon did it twice! They reviewed the film the next day and took an assist away! Would they have even looked at it had it been MJ?
pickzkickz 2 years ago
good god
wesideballer96 3 years ago
best move ever
coolguy71469 3 years ago
OWNED!!
Deenijel 3 years ago
I love that move
174HB 3 years ago
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andrew bynum is the next to do that
IMmichaelfoo 3 years ago
You spoiled this video by putting Bynum's name near Hakeem's,
jeedah123 3 years ago 21
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Well, it's kinda laughable because Bynum's stats last year are already as good as Bill Walton's career stats. Walton is so overrated...
As for Hakeem, he's nowhere close...
PhanatixDDH 3 years ago
@jeedah123 Wynona Bynum
NegroXFile 1 year ago
lol dude im a huge laker fan.... never miss a game even when i work.... but bynum will never do that.....
coolguy71469 3 years ago 4
Bynum being the next to do that? The same Bynum who puts up games like 0 points 5 fouls against 6'4'' scrubs like Chuck Hayes? HAHAHAHA!!
realrocky8591 2 years ago 34
@realrocky8591 if you ever even watched basketball, you would know that chuck hayes is probably the best post defender in the nba.
mhernandez94 1 year ago
@realrocky8591 Doubt It. Bynum is gonna wreck the league
EDDIE90510 6 months ago
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LOL, if he was in on this dream shake play, he'd probably break his own ankles and be out for 2 seasons minimum.
realrocky8591 6 months ago
@realrocky8591 chuck hayes is the best defensive center/PF in the league
34HakeemtheDream34 4 months ago
The only way that David Robinson, Patrick Ewing, and Tim Duncan have any chance of being equal to Hakeem is if The Dream took a shit and they ate it, allowing a fraction of Hakeem's greatness to be transferred to them.
Unfortunately, they are not even remotely worthy of eating his shit.
realrocky8591 3 years ago 25
very nice example...
YouAreRazasSlave 3 years ago 5
HaHaHa :) Good One
AceroySangre 3 years ago 2
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Well put if I do say so myself! LOL. It's true though.
pickzkickz 2 years ago
@realrocky8591 You're very rational.
havlorech 1 year ago
wow !!! dream move
traitor4732 3 years ago 2
When i see this move, I get chills
so cold
Choco4eva 3 years ago 2
Hakeem = GOAT center? I think so ...
ansar90 3 years ago 3
That was just plain filthy.
azianchocolate 3 years ago
This is one of the most replayed NBA highlights during the 90s
hirudold 3 years ago 2
owned!
prothipourgos 3 years ago
lol olujawan frikin pwned robinson all those years.
furssher 3 years ago
haha this guy is boss
doobscoo 3 years ago
Yeah he had the stats and the rings but the only reason why he functioned on the Bulls and the Pistons was because of (#1)Jordan and (#2)the fact that he was still in the right frame of mind in Detroit. He did things however he wanted at the expense of the team. He was a cancer. Look at the past 10 years. No one wanted him despite winning 5 rings because they knew what they were getting. Even Jordan admitted having problems working with him. Stats dont mean a thing if you cant work with people.
Saibecc1 3 years ago
The REAL 1995 MVP. Admiral will ALWAYS be Hakeem's BITCH.
HuskerFanatic 3 years ago 4
owned!!!
ThePHENOM987 3 years ago
Olajuwon = god
and hall of famer!
clarksided 3 years ago
olajuwon is amazing....there aren't many players that can take over a game these days, especially big men.
shotbboy 3 years ago 3
ppl can say they want about david robinson but the fact is, david wasnt a bad center at all, its just one of those times u run into a force that is just better then u. u gotta remember hakeem has been playing with mostly average team mates most of his career, but u see just how much more dangerous he is when u have another go to guy like drexler.
clintos59 3 years ago
If only hakeem had a drexler or a barkley in his young days damn it would be such a scary thing for the league. This is how i look at all the great players.
jordan had pippen and phil jackson.
Russel Had Prolly the best surrounding cast in nba history and was playing at a time when the league wasnt as good.
Shaq and Kobie had each other and a good surrounding cast same goes for duncan.
Where hakeem won his rings with an average group and an old drexler.
clintos59 3 years ago
What ppl seem to oversee about hakeem and the way he won his 2 championships is the surround cast he had to win these rings with and how many tough teams he had to face just to get to the finals just to meat another great team such as the knicks and there awesome surrounding cast and patrick ewing and orlando who had an awesome team aswell with shaq and penny hardaway. This is why hakeem in my opinion is the best center to play the game and id rank him second best all around player next to MJ.
clintos59 3 years ago
i disagree. the average player puts forth the average effort. he played in a team full guys that wanted it more than the opposition...and the first was without the "old drexler"
foil66 3 years ago
no it's just you calling someone an overated pussy without feeling any kind of remorse is what made me write such comment
lechampiones 3 years ago
retarded or something?
lechampiones 3 years ago
You cant blame David for all the problems with that team. David put that franchise on his back for 10 years until Tim came. Olajuwan was much more dominant for one thing and David had a poor supporting cast. They also didnt have any good defensive scheme wich is why Pop took over(Thank God). If there is anyone who bailed out on the team it was Rodman. And if you watched the 99 team David had stones alright spearheading the defense on a 15-2 title team. .
Saibecc1 3 years ago
@Saibecc1 Robinson was a PF who played center. Olajuwon was a true center. Like a daddy playing his son
Vergadoce 1 year ago
No, thats why he's the Nigerian Nightmare
peralez2383 3 years ago
Olajuwon will always be better than shaq because he based his dominance on pure skill and talent. Of course, the players who were also like this are jordan, kobe and mcgrady.
I wouldn't put lebron nor shaq in it because they base their dominance on strength. This means once they get to around 28, their prime will not be as good as their younger years, unlike players like jordan.
jeedah123 3 years ago 7
That is sick.
snapcaseypop 3 years ago 4
I remeber watching this and thinking that a man his size shouldn't be able to move like that, it seemed unreal.
zerauj1 3 years ago 6
I remeber watching this and thinking that a man his size shouldn't be able to move like that, it seemed unreal.
zerauj1 3 years ago
I have never seen a center move like he did.
SSone97 3 years ago 8
harrybinladen
shut the fuck up with the gay shit, you fucking idiot
mivado 4 years ago
This was a team effort.Remember Robinson getting double and triple teamed when he had the ball.Robinson wasn't getting help.Vinny Del Negro and Chuck Person were missing open shots badly.Avery Johnson couldn't hit a jumper outside a layup and Rodman played like he didn't want to play for the Spurs anymore and coach Bob Hill didn't make the right calls a coach should thats why he got fired and that's why he lost the following year to the Jazz he did have a good team to beat Houston.
mr10tomidnight 4 years ago
Yeah right...
David Robinson in series: 23.8 points 11.3 rebounds 2.7 assists 1.5 steals
Hakeem Olajuwon in series: 35.3 points 12.5 rebounds 5.0 assists 4.1 blocks 1.3 steals
Game 1: Olajuwon: 27 pts - Robinson 21 pts
Game 2: Olajuwon: 41 pts - Robinson 32 pts
Game 3: Olajuwon: 43 pts - Robinson 29 pts
Game 4: Olajuwon: 20 pts - Robinson 20 pts
Game 5: Olajuwon: 42 pts - Robinson 22 pts
Game 6: Olajuwon: 39 pts - Robinson 19 pts
The difference was Olajuwon vs Robinson!!!
maxpeezaay 3 years ago 9
ningun centro en la liga podia con el Robinson no era la excepción
quacmayer 4 years ago
Hakeem The Dream? Yeah, cos David Robinson is seeing a nightmare.
grandmasterkrush 4 years ago 6
I would love to see the so called greatest center of all time shaq attempt to do that
carl1223 4 years ago 4
the title sounds like it will be gay, lol
dmac8999 4 years ago 2
ROFL!
zaqmjy 3 years ago
robinson was good man. but that playoff series really engraved who was the better player. olajuwon was a champion who took over games no matter who (including the admiral) tried to stop him, robinson was just a good player.
ps. i know he won later, but that was duncans team.
zoabeh 4 years ago
Hakeem is smooth. Silky smooth.
His moves are so smooth, you'd think Duncan and his fundamentals were performed by a robot.
SrustinLim 4 years ago 5
duh, shaq got wasted. 4-O sweep. what's that I hear? Sweeeeep.
That shut them up back in 1995.
harrybinladen 4 years ago 2
Hakeem was the best once Jordan left, for the next two three years. at the time there was arguments...but now it's much clearer. The rockets' playoff run culminating in the sweep of the Magic in the finals was legendary - they were the fifth seed in the west, the lowest seed ever to win an NBA championship. And remember, Hakeem was America's favorite - a muslim!
harrybinladen 4 years ago 3
The Rockets were actually the sixth seed. Hakeem owned Robinson -- the "Admiral" never would have won a title without Duncan.
airlai 4 years ago 5
ah, my mistake. sixth seed. exactly...
harrybinladen 4 years ago 2
Robinson was all over olajuwon forever and no one can forget that. and anyone who says otherwise has no idea what they are talking about
13jobby13 4 years ago
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This guy is perverse. He makes decisions like George Bush. Upside down and opposite ways. The truth is David Robinson was a wet guy. I think actually he was a homosexual. You know, he was in the navy and all. so maybe he was all over Olajuwon. I guess that's what you meant?
harrybinladen 4 years ago
Lol, who started to cry after that Dream swept and dominated him back in 95? Shaq's the answer to that queston.
maxpeezaay 4 years ago 2
hakeem = the real 1995 MVP.
swyyyguy 4 years ago 2