I bet they used an earlier rejected design. That should explain the short development period. One should realized that Me-262 was chosen out of several competing designs.
So what was the performance record for this interceptor? Was it better than the Komet? You know if only the Germans would have got this in production way earlier, maybe it could have changed the tides of war,
This plane was made mainly for Hitlerjugend in the final months/weeks of WWII. It was called: HE162 "Salamander" or "Volksjager". It was as you maybe noticed, A jet plane which was mainly made of wood.
Hello SemtexOnline, amongst your photos of the He-162 do you have any of Oberleutnant Paul-Heinrich Dähne please? He was killed on April 24, 1945 when the ejector seat fired off whilst his HE 162 aircraft was still on the ground. Others at the scene have told me that the seat assembly came down with Onkel Paul under it and he was dead when they got the bits off him. Died when the war had only 7 days before surrender on May 1. rad@rad45.org
Uuuhhh ! Both swim for coming to die on the shore ! If they had madetime and put at the disposal of its fighter pilots in early 1944, the story would have been another ...
Well, it was pretty much prototype production. Desperate times. Good initial concept: cheap and easy enought to fly to be flown by Hitler Youth with minimal training, as the Luftwaffe was fast running out of pilots. Pilots mastered some of the planes nasty habits but the jet was a difficult and dangerous aircraft to fly even for experienced pilots.
The difficulties experienced by the He 162 were caused mainly by its rush into production, not by any inherent design flaws. One experienced Luftwaffe pilot who flew it called it a "first-class combat aircraft." This opinion was mirrored by Eric "Winkle" Brown of the Fleet Air Arm (FAA),
Lieutenant Rudolf Schmitt presumably scored a victory over Rostock against a Tempest or Typhoon (depending on the source) on May 4, 1945. Shot down a few minutes later, Schmitt ejected safely. The fact that a rookie pilot managed to speaks volume about that aircraft that many consider to be among the best of its time. After the war, the remaining units were taken to the countries of the winning forces and used for jet engine aircraft pilot training.
@ozeangruen I'm curious about this. AIRPOWER & WINGS magazines claim that the HE-162 never saw combat against Allied aircraft, although they also claim that Allied pilots saw the 162 in flight. I'm NOT disputing you, but I would like to know where you found this interesting little tidbit on the plane. Both magazines are considered to be well-researched in their articles. Thanx.
@Alembic25...happily we lost the war! At and of war Germans run out of supply. Think the Americans where a bit clever then the Britons. If you have a look at the Me-162 and the AC-10 Warthog or Go-229
You have to take heed of the fact, that Germans supply line running short at the end of WW2.
Lets not get too excited here. This plane was a death trap. Designed and built in mere weeks it was structurally unsound and aerodynamicaly unstable. I believe one crashed in front of Luftwaffe top brass when the starboard wing delaminated and broke off. These were intended to be flown by Hitler Youth but the reality was it was way to tricky even for an experienced Luftwaffe pilot to fly. I saw one in the IWM in London at the weekend, Scary.
You need to do some research mate. This plane was appalling. The Luftwaffes top remaining pilots in 1945 insisted on giving the plane a try and their report was damning although the RLM disregarded it. The RAF tested a captured example and it too disintegrated during testing. I keep hearing the same old story about this plane. "If they'd had more of these they would have won the war" and so on. Utter rubbish.
I think you will find it was a verry well produced aircraft. there was problems with it wooden construction but it was one of the verry first production fighters to have an ejector seat! also there was a unit of hitler youth that were fully operational with the 162 before the war came to an end
I'd like to point you to books like wings of the Luftwaffe written by American pilots that tested captured German aircraft who thought it was remarkable to fly, in some cases after evaluating it pilots still flew them cos they were "a joy to fly" I'd be interested to know your sources apart from wikipedia?!
The glue they had to use to build it wasn't up to the job. the basic design of the aircraft was fine. In fact, had it been built by DeHaviland it would have been hailed as one of the greates aircraft of all time. Try to get a copy of "Wings of the Luftwaffe" by Eric Brown. He flew more different types of aircraft than anyone else and found the He 162 to be 'a delight' to fly.
The A-10 was a development along the lines of the Hs-129, or the Sturmovik. It was an entirely radical idea for the time period where it was considered "too basic" and was just a "metal tub with a man in it". The He-162 is neither a close air support A/C nor is it any form of Fighter-bomber. Its complexity is irrelevant when comparing it to the A-10.
Omg you compare technology of WWII with Cold War military doctrine . Look a tail of its plane and compare it with A10, and position of engine ( in that time that was revolution ), yes A-10 have 2 engines. . . In the end , cockpit .
Actually, this wasn't a waste of resources. It went from design to production in less then 2 months, was built almost entirely from wood, and was cheap to produce. Really, the only bad thing about the plane was how late it came.
Typical Nazi 'wonder weapon': a huge waste of resources when any half-sane military analysis would have shown that the war was lost. But rather than accept rational thought, the Nazis put more and more effort into technological 'miracles' their collapsing economy couldn't support. And of course, it made Goering look good, and gave him another chance for empty promises...
So, was this jet actually built by the Germans or were they built by half-starved slave labor and children being worked to death by the German war machine?
those damn nazis. i saw a nazi pin at an antique store. it was only 13 bucks but i wouldnt buy it for a buck because it's a symbol of hate.
im no commie but the government should be just a little more strict on the freedom of speach. only to the point where if it causes harm the government should step in.
Where the whole "People's Fighter" project fails completely is the idea that teen-age boys could be trained to handle a jet fighter after some glider training. This is like teaching teens to drive, then expecting them to compete on the NASCAR circuit against veteran drivers. It just shows how badly the Nazi were out of touch with reality.
@tarantula700 Reality notwithstanding, whenever the Luftwaffe built up a sufficient reserve to challenge the RAF & USAAF, it was wasted in desperation long-shot gambles which only delayed the inevitable. Towards the end, with their experienced pilots gone, they really had nothing else left. It's like getting the Hitler Youth and civilians they mustered for the defense of Berlin against the Russians. That was the fault of the High Command.
@TheSV3 Hitler was the center of this storm of delusion. I'm reading "Inside the Third Reich," Albert Speer's memoirs, and he details Hitler's steady breakdown and how the other Nazi higher ups ignored reality. Projects like the People's Fighter illustrate this problem. They even put inexperienced pilots in the Me262, a move that was irresponsible.
the problem was hitler didn't invest in jet fighters early enough if he had it would have changed the course of the war effort and things would have been a lot different
I'm not sure the RLM jet fighters would have changed the course of the war. Their presence would have speeded up development of Allied jet fighters which at the time, eg the Meteor, were held back for home defence. A lot more bombers and their crews would have been lost, so not such a problem after all.
I just read Cpt. Eric Browns detailed account of flying the He-162 in his book "Wings of the Luftwaffe". He was impressed with its handling but required an experienced pilot to fly. He mentions "considerable dipping of the nose at 3/4 rudder in a turn" which can cause loss of control. But said it was in his experience the best jet fighter gun platform of its time. It was also one of the first aircraft to be fittted with an ejector seat.
A fighter like this, only effective as piloted by skilled pilot. The speed was too high to quick turns, the design was not bat at all but it was rushed, and the material quality was poor, totally incapable for a high performance plane. So we cannot decide, what was her true potential. About the 975 km range: the operational time includes gliding. That range means the maximum gliding range from a to b.
Not really. It only had sensitive controls. Hitler gave an order for Heinkel and other companies to make a single jet engine fighter with very cheap materials. It's wings and back wings (i don't know how they're called) were made from wood, but the fuselage from metal, because it carrier fuel. So it was created for hitler's youth pilots (teenagers or older). Well to maneuver this plane well it needed some skilled pilots, but it is and amazing plane.
That having been said, the manufacturing quality of the He-162 suffered a lot from the lack of proper materials and a skilled workforce, not to mention the rush at which the a/c were assembled. This meant that a lot of the a/c assembled were of dubious quality.
But aside from this the design was excellent and a testament to the genius of the German designers. That they got it from the drawing board to flight in nomore than a couple of months is nothing short of remarkable.
reports of the glue failing and whole wing/engine sections coming apart. it did have an ejection seat but the fear of being sucked into the engine was huge. but a very neat plane.
Flawed design - it was too fast (strange concept, but true) for its job with the weapons it had. It was built as a one pass bomber destroyer, but the slow rate of fire and low velocity of the 30m cannon meant it usually would not had sufficient hits to knock out a B17/B24 before it had gone past (few pilots would have reduced thrust as they were not keen to be target practice for the P51 escorts). As
OrmenKorte said, it was resources that if applied to the Me262 may have made some difference.
The design wasn't flawed, the design was infact excellent. Also it wasn't designed to be a bomber destroyer at all, and it didn't have 30mm cannons. The He-162 was designed to be a homeland defense fighter, its main task being fighting enemy fighters. It was equipped with 2 20mm MG151/20's. RAF test pilot Eric Brown praised the a/c for its excellent maneuverabillity, the turn & roll rate being exceptional. And he flew it a lot for pleasure after the war.
This was not the first aircraft with an ejection seat. The Doriner335 Pfeil had one and that was flying in May of 1944 long before this aircraft was thought of. You would want one though looking at that engine!
After the war the German scientists went where they were offered paying jobs. Germany could offer no such thing. "Alles kaputt".
The spoils of war go to the winner. Had Germany not gone to war, then Germanys position as a technological nation would today probably have been much stronger. But that there would be war appears to have been clear since the Versailles treaty.....
Some operational missions were flown. The aircraft had no positive effect on the German war effort, and efforts and recources could probably much better have been pumped into the rather successfull ME 262.
Germany produced quite a few wondrous designs which have later been adapted by other nation. Desperation forced them to try whatever seemed to have the slightest chance of becoming successfull. At this point in the war, the allies had no need to be so desperate.
The Salamander was a desperate aircraft built in desperate times. With enough time for "bugfixing" and substantially educated pilots it might have become an operationally acceptable aircraft, but Germany had neither at this phase of the war. Apparently, one problem of the aircraft was that the jet exhaust had a tendence to become "stuck" to the vertical stabilizer / rudder, resulting in an unrecoverable spin. More than 125 were delivered.
Considering the amount of time that this plane was designed and built in, and that they had to use wood and glue (that is why the plane was somewhat unstable, as someone mentioned before, but not due to bad design, due to lack of resources, it was created within the final heartbeats of the war), as opposed to follow the proper development process, what they made in the HE-162 is purely fascinating.
@SemtexOnline The unstability might have been intended as part of the design. As you can see, the wingspan is quite short compared to the other aircraft design of the period. This may make the airplane prone to inertial coupling, but give the plane a remarkable speed and agility. It'll fly, but it'll take more effort from the pilot.
The first USE of an ejection seat was made 13.01.1943 by a tespilot in the Heinkel He 280.This video contained several wrong informations about the He 162. One click into the Wikipedia or a little research on Google would have avoided that.The He 162 was constructed in an emergency time span with emergency materials (the bad replacement-glue)).There´s much good to say about German inventions and German jet planes.But why making such a sloppy researched video with so many wrong informations?
He 162 was hastily constructed and was TERRIBLE to fly. Bad flying abilities. Only flyable for experienced pilots. But it was planned for quickly instructed Hitler youth boys (therefore the nickname "Volksjäger"). Impossible to fly for such boys. The first serial plane with an ejection seat was the He 219 "Uhu". I can´t understand, why the people don´t do a little research, before they are making a whole video with completely wrong informations for the people.
Megatwingo, the He 162 wasn´t terrible to Fly, it was Hard to fly. I recommend you to read Eric Browns Bock " Wings of the Luftwaffe". He describes the Plane as a very good and stable Weapon Platform, when it´s in the Air, but absolutely nothing for beginners. That´s right, you wrote this, but i yust wanted to remind you that it was only terrible for beginners, not for experienced Pilots.
Then I´ve read the wrong books and watched the wrong docus. Or I made the wrong conclusions from what I saw and red. Maybe the "terrible" characteristics were really only described for the hastly educated Hitleryouth boys, where this plane was planned for.
It is a pity that Germany did not have enough time to prepare to smask the russkies. German attack against Soviets in WWII was more like a counter attack not to let the russkies to that first...
Predator soundtrack :) The Heinkel-162 had potential, given that they had got good alloys and real adhesives, this plane with the Me-262 could have made a difference.
This was a long way from being a "superb" plane. Lethally unstable and structurally unsound due to poor adhesives. We brits had flattened the factory that made the good glue. Ha ha ha. Loosers.
the english did shit, just hide behind the sofa with their gay public accents while US dollars and Russian blood won the war. The commonwealth and other UK countries did more than the english throughout the war. Then the english take the credit while at the time acted like cowards.
"Lethally unstable and structurally unsound due to poor adhesives."
Yes, first were quite poor quality.
"We brits had flattened the factory that made the good glue. Ha ha ha. Loosers."
Germans started to build it in big numbers but war ended. So it did fly quite well actually...at least thats what british pilots said when they tested it.
Losers? lot of said from guy whos country was saved by americans.
One brit pilot tried to fly one of these. It went out of control due to the instabilities I mentioned earlier. No further attempts were made. It crashed and he was killed near Farnborough. The Tego Film factory which made the adhesives for German wooden aircraft was flattened by the RAF-fact. Attempts were made to use an alternative adhesive which actually rotted the wood causing structural failures. This was nothing like a war winning aircraft. It was a waste of engineering rescourses.
if it wasn't for us brits america would not of had an operating base so that we both (yes thats right regardless of films such as saving private ryan us brits were also involved in the normandy landings) could laun an offensive in the west
I think this plane scored a single kill (hawker tempest), however the killer was also killed in same mission. We know this because the tempest shot down pilot was captured by germans and said this.
It never saw combat, and had no kills. It was "In Service" but never fired a shot or engaged an enemy. The same holds true for the American F8F,i t was onboard Carriers going to Japan in August 1945, but never saw combat.
the americans developed SHIT they developed nothing , they just STOLE everything from the germans ;) everybody knows that and their military wouldnt be as powerfull today if they hadnt stolen everything from the germans ... comeon thats poor
@brendonnz1964 Yeah, not to mention that they were paid very handsomely and they were showed respect and freedom. Stalin on the other hand, extremely mistrusted intellectuals and had them kept as virtual prisoners, and most likely had many executed if they crossed him, or their designs didn't show much promise.
the range of 900km sounds completely unrealistic. its flight time was reported to be 30min. max due to fuel consumption, what would give rather 300km range, some 100km operational radius. also it's shielding is apparently void (wooden+fragile engine!).
Hi, what you said is not completly right. The flight time is 30 min., at Sea-height. At 11000 Meters the flight time is pushed up to 83 min. While flying with 765 km/h at 11000 Meters, the Range is approximatley 1147 Km. If you dont believe me, check it for yourself.
Hi krbosak, what you´ve said is not completly right. The flight time is 30 min., but only at sea-height. At 11000 Meters the flight Time is pushed up to 83 min. While flying with 765 km/h at 11000 Km, the range is approximatley 1147 Km. If you don´t believe me, check it for yourself.
buen video pero por suerte para muchos jovenes, este avion no se uso. en primer vuelo de prueba, las alas se despegaron por la mala calidad del pegamento usado y mato al piloto. se desarrollo en poco tiempo y fue una proeza, apenas 90 dias desde la peticion hasta el prototipo, pero un gran peligro para pilotosjovenes con apenas unas horas de entrenamiento en planeadores.
You may be right. I knew that ejection seats had been used by the Germans previously, but I thought the first time it had been used in combat was the HE-162. I'll look into it, cheers for the advice.
I think it was 1942 that the HE 219 became the first production aircraft to be fitted with an ejection seat, after the HE 280 jet prototype had the system fitted in 1940.
The earliest ejection seats were developed by an innovative British aircraft company named Martin-Baker in 1934. They also made the Martin-Baker MB5, one of the great unknown fighter planes, but that's another story.
@SemtexOnline Smidon is right, but it's the first jet-propelled plane to get an ejection seat (not because of the location of the turbojet on top of the fuselage, right after the cockpit).
@SemtexOnline Smidon is right, but it's the first jet-propelled plane to get an ejection seat (because of the location of the turbojet on top of the fuselage, right after the cockpit).
I bet they used an earlier rejected design. That should explain the short development period. One should realized that Me-262 was chosen out of several competing designs.
phadil 3 weeks ago
So what was the performance record for this interceptor? Was it better than the Komet? You know if only the Germans would have got this in production way earlier, maybe it could have changed the tides of war,
YambidiBlamBlam 2 months ago
A beautiful machine, the germans in WW2 sure had some brilliant minded engineers
Khazar01 2 months ago
This plane was made mainly for Hitlerjugend in the final months/weeks of WWII. It was called: HE162 "Salamander" or "Volksjager". It was as you maybe noticed, A jet plane which was mainly made of wood.
EliasKvistDK 3 months ago
An interesting clip. It's fortunate that the Nazis did not perfect their late war aircraft.
noonsight2010 5 months ago
Hello SemtexOnline, amongst your photos of the He-162 do you have any of Oberleutnant Paul-Heinrich Dähne please? He was killed on April 24, 1945 when the ejector seat fired off whilst his HE 162 aircraft was still on the ground. Others at the scene have told me that the seat assembly came down with Onkel Paul under it and he was dead when they got the bits off him. Died when the war had only 7 days before surrender on May 1. rad@rad45.org
rad45org 7 months ago
If Nazi won the war. Today they could conquer planets and stars.
MaxPolej 7 months ago
Uuuhhh ! Both swim for coming to die on the shore ! If they had madetime and put at the disposal of its fighter pilots in early 1944, the story would have been another ...
bompiberlot 9 months ago
the jet that won hitler the war
datzfast 11 months ago
Introducing? It was introduced in 1944.
AirmanBeHeader 1 year ago
This plane it is prototype A-10
mishelmay1 1 year ago
@mishelmay1 Not even remotely...
GrigoriZhukov 1 year ago
this aircraft was probably more dangerous to its pilots however one he162 shot down a RAF tempest in germany in 1945!
justincredible9446 1 year ago
First test flight December 1944 ... in operational units by February 1945. Amazing!
ocoee96 1 year ago
@ocoee96
Well, it was pretty much prototype production. Desperate times. Good initial concept: cheap and easy enought to fly to be flown by Hitler Youth with minimal training, as the Luftwaffe was fast running out of pilots. Pilots mastered some of the planes nasty habits but the jet was a difficult and dangerous aircraft to fly even for experienced pilots.
fitte6 1 year ago
The Volksjaeger wasn't awful as a plane, with a modern composite airframe , engines, and modern avionics it would make a nice sport jet I bet.
xKCBEx 2 years ago
The difficulties experienced by the He 162 were caused mainly by its rush into production, not by any inherent design flaws. One experienced Luftwaffe pilot who flew it called it a "first-class combat aircraft." This opinion was mirrored by Eric "Winkle" Brown of the Fleet Air Arm (FAA),
ozeangruen 2 years ago
Lieutenant Rudolf Schmitt presumably scored a victory over Rostock against a Tempest or Typhoon (depending on the source) on May 4, 1945. Shot down a few minutes later, Schmitt ejected safely. The fact that a rookie pilot managed to speaks volume about that aircraft that many consider to be among the best of its time. After the war, the remaining units were taken to the countries of the winning forces and used for jet engine aircraft pilot training.
ozeangruen 2 years ago
@ozeangruen I'm curious about this. AIRPOWER & WINGS magazines claim that the HE-162 never saw combat against Allied aircraft, although they also claim that Allied pilots saw the 162 in flight. I'm NOT disputing you, but I would like to know where you found this interesting little tidbit on the plane. Both magazines are considered to be well-researched in their articles. Thanx.
TheSV3 1 year ago
@Alembic25...happily we lost the war! At and of war Germans run out of supply. Think the Americans where a bit clever then the Britons. If you have a look at the Me-162 and the AC-10 Warthog or Go-229
You have to take heed of the fact, that Germans supply line running short at the end of WW2.
ozeangruen 2 years ago
Lets not get too excited here. This plane was a death trap. Designed and built in mere weeks it was structurally unsound and aerodynamicaly unstable. I believe one crashed in front of Luftwaffe top brass when the starboard wing delaminated and broke off. These were intended to be flown by Hitler Youth but the reality was it was way to tricky even for an experienced Luftwaffe pilot to fly. I saw one in the IWM in London at the weekend, Scary.
Alembic25 2 years ago
The wings were too short! That was the only problem!;D
mihaelmartinovic 2 years ago
You need to do some research mate. This plane was appalling. The Luftwaffes top remaining pilots in 1945 insisted on giving the plane a try and their report was damning although the RLM disregarded it. The RAF tested a captured example and it too disintegrated during testing. I keep hearing the same old story about this plane. "If they'd had more of these they would have won the war" and so on. Utter rubbish.
Alembic25 2 years ago
I think you will find it was a verry well produced aircraft. there was problems with it wooden construction but it was one of the verry first production fighters to have an ejector seat! also there was a unit of hitler youth that were fully operational with the 162 before the war came to an end
spartan73 2 years ago
Rubbish. At least do some research before commenting.
Alembic25 2 years ago
I'd like to point you to books like wings of the Luftwaffe written by American pilots that tested captured German aircraft who thought it was remarkable to fly, in some cases after evaluating it pilots still flew them cos they were "a joy to fly" I'd be interested to know your sources apart from wikipedia?!
spartan73 2 years ago
The glue they had to use to build it wasn't up to the job. the basic design of the aircraft was fine. In fact, had it been built by DeHaviland it would have been hailed as one of the greates aircraft of all time. Try to get a copy of "Wings of the Luftwaffe" by Eric Brown. He flew more different types of aircraft than anyone else and found the He 162 to be 'a delight' to fly.
Pureteenlard 1 year ago
i like the arrows on the nose. its like pointing out to all nonbelievers there realy is no propellor
aypimptastic 2 years ago
Father of A-10
NemanjaMonarch 2 years ago
.. 'Thunderbolt II'? Hardly.
The A-10 was a development along the lines of the Hs-129, or the Sturmovik. It was an entirely radical idea for the time period where it was considered "too basic" and was just a "metal tub with a man in it". The He-162 is neither a close air support A/C nor is it any form of Fighter-bomber. Its complexity is irrelevant when comparing it to the A-10.
GoldLeader881 2 years ago
Omg you compare technology of WWII with Cold War military doctrine . Look a tail of its plane and compare it with A10, and position of engine ( in that time that was revolution ), yes A-10 have 2 engines. . . In the end , cockpit .
NemanjaMonarch 2 years ago
I hope you were referring to aypimptastic and not me, lol.
GoldLeader881 2 years ago
Actually, this wasn't a waste of resources. It went from design to production in less then 2 months, was built almost entirely from wood, and was cheap to produce. Really, the only bad thing about the plane was how late it came.
halo07guy2 2 years ago 3
Typical Nazi 'wonder weapon': a huge waste of resources when any half-sane military analysis would have shown that the war was lost. But rather than accept rational thought, the Nazis put more and more effort into technological 'miracles' their collapsing economy couldn't support. And of course, it made Goering look good, and gave him another chance for empty promises...
aj9qzztb87n 2 years ago
5 Jahre zu spät.. sonst hätte England verloren, 1940
tiroler64 2 years ago
So, was this jet actually built by the Germans or were they built by half-starved slave labor and children being worked to death by the German war machine?
MrJJackYT 2 years ago
those damn nazis. i saw a nazi pin at an antique store. it was only 13 bucks but i wouldnt buy it for a buck because it's a symbol of hate.
im no commie but the government should be just a little more strict on the freedom of speach. only to the point where if it causes harm the government should step in.
sorry for long paragraph out of nowhere.
mrfourtysevenman 2 years ago
Where the whole "People's Fighter" project fails completely is the idea that teen-age boys could be trained to handle a jet fighter after some glider training. This is like teaching teens to drive, then expecting them to compete on the NASCAR circuit against veteran drivers. It just shows how badly the Nazi were out of touch with reality.
tarantula700 2 years ago 6
@tarantula700 Reality notwithstanding, whenever the Luftwaffe built up a sufficient reserve to challenge the RAF & USAAF, it was wasted in desperation long-shot gambles which only delayed the inevitable. Towards the end, with their experienced pilots gone, they really had nothing else left. It's like getting the Hitler Youth and civilians they mustered for the defense of Berlin against the Russians. That was the fault of the High Command.
TheSV3 1 year ago
@TheSV3 Hitler was the center of this storm of delusion. I'm reading "Inside the Third Reich," Albert Speer's memoirs, and he details Hitler's steady breakdown and how the other Nazi higher ups ignored reality. Projects like the People's Fighter illustrate this problem. They even put inexperienced pilots in the Me262, a move that was irresponsible.
TheKulu42 1 year ago
not always, its situational. but you tell that to a pilot whos about to eject with a jet engine behind it. it was a fear factor
vdub2002 3 years ago
the problem was hitler didn't invest in jet fighters early enough if he had it would have changed the course of the war effort and things would have been a lot different
molefish63 3 years ago 2
I'm not sure the RLM jet fighters would have changed the course of the war. Their presence would have speeded up development of Allied jet fighters which at the time, eg the Meteor, were held back for home defence. A lot more bombers and their crews would have been lost, so not such a problem after all.
Ant1b0dy 2 years ago
I just read Cpt. Eric Browns detailed account of flying the He-162 in his book "Wings of the Luftwaffe". He was impressed with its handling but required an experienced pilot to fly. He mentions "considerable dipping of the nose at 3/4 rudder in a turn" which can cause loss of control. But said it was in his experience the best jet fighter gun platform of its time. It was also one of the first aircraft to be fittted with an ejector seat.
Ant1b0dy 2 years ago
A fighter like this, only effective as piloted by skilled pilot. The speed was too high to quick turns, the design was not bat at all but it was rushed, and the material quality was poor, totally incapable for a high performance plane. So we cannot decide, what was her true potential. About the 975 km range: the operational time includes gliding. That range means the maximum gliding range from a to b.
A weapon itself cannot win the war.
Thinking about what if's is pointless.
tyaty 3 years ago
Not really. It only had sensitive controls. Hitler gave an order for Heinkel and other companies to make a single jet engine fighter with very cheap materials. It's wings and back wings (i don't know how they're called) were made from wood, but the fuselage from metal, because it carrier fuel. So it was created for hitler's youth pilots (teenagers or older). Well to maneuver this plane well it needed some skilled pilots, but it is and amazing plane.
Convict147 3 years ago
Semtex. I always get a bang out of your videos!
Fait2 3 years ago
Thanks :-)
SemtexOnline 2 years ago
@SemtexOnline any video of them being in action? :)
AdolfHparodies 1 year ago
That having been said, the manufacturing quality of the He-162 suffered a lot from the lack of proper materials and a skilled workforce, not to mention the rush at which the a/c were assembled. This meant that a lot of the a/c assembled were of dubious quality.
But aside from this the design was excellent and a testament to the genius of the German designers. That they got it from the drawing board to flight in nomore than a couple of months is nothing short of remarkable.
bellator11 3 years ago
reports of the glue failing and whole wing/engine sections coming apart. it did have an ejection seat but the fear of being sucked into the engine was huge. but a very neat plane.
vdub2002 3 years ago
Flawed design - it was too fast (strange concept, but true) for its job with the weapons it had. It was built as a one pass bomber destroyer, but the slow rate of fire and low velocity of the 30m cannon meant it usually would not had sufficient hits to knock out a B17/B24 before it had gone past (few pilots would have reduced thrust as they were not keen to be target practice for the P51 escorts). As
OrmenKorte said, it was resources that if applied to the Me262 may have made some difference.
LessAiredvanU 3 years ago
The design wasn't flawed, the design was infact excellent. Also it wasn't designed to be a bomber destroyer at all, and it didn't have 30mm cannons. The He-162 was designed to be a homeland defense fighter, its main task being fighting enemy fighters. It was equipped with 2 20mm MG151/20's. RAF test pilot Eric Brown praised the a/c for its excellent maneuverabillity, the turn & roll rate being exceptional. And he flew it a lot for pleasure after the war.
bellator11 3 years ago
This was not the first aircraft with an ejection seat. The Doriner335 Pfeil had one and that was flying in May of 1944 long before this aircraft was thought of. You would want one though looking at that engine!
190byavant 3 years ago
After the war the German scientists went where they were offered paying jobs. Germany could offer no such thing. "Alles kaputt".
The spoils of war go to the winner. Had Germany not gone to war, then Germanys position as a technological nation would today probably have been much stronger. But that there would be war appears to have been clear since the Versailles treaty.....
OrmenKorte 3 years ago
Some operational missions were flown. The aircraft had no positive effect on the German war effort, and efforts and recources could probably much better have been pumped into the rather successfull ME 262.
Germany produced quite a few wondrous designs which have later been adapted by other nation. Desperation forced them to try whatever seemed to have the slightest chance of becoming successfull. At this point in the war, the allies had no need to be so desperate.
OrmenKorte 3 years ago
The Salamander was a desperate aircraft built in desperate times. With enough time for "bugfixing" and substantially educated pilots it might have become an operationally acceptable aircraft, but Germany had neither at this phase of the war. Apparently, one problem of the aircraft was that the jet exhaust had a tendence to become "stuck" to the vertical stabilizer / rudder, resulting in an unrecoverable spin. More than 125 were delivered.
OrmenKorte 3 years ago
what was the song in the backround?
great vid.
ConCon75 3 years ago
I don't know what the song is called, but I took it from the Predator Soundtrack, email me if you want a copy.
SemtexOnline 3 years ago
Considering the amount of time that this plane was designed and built in, and that they had to use wood and glue (that is why the plane was somewhat unstable, as someone mentioned before, but not due to bad design, due to lack of resources, it was created within the final heartbeats of the war), as opposed to follow the proper development process, what they made in the HE-162 is purely fascinating.
SemtexOnline 3 years ago
@SemtexOnline The unstability might have been intended as part of the design. As you can see, the wingspan is quite short compared to the other aircraft design of the period. This may make the airplane prone to inertial coupling, but give the plane a remarkable speed and agility. It'll fly, but it'll take more effort from the pilot.
phadil 3 weeks ago
The first USE of an ejection seat was made 13.01.1943 by a tespilot in the Heinkel He 280.This video contained several wrong informations about the He 162. One click into the Wikipedia or a little research on Google would have avoided that.The He 162 was constructed in an emergency time span with emergency materials (the bad replacement-glue)).There´s much good to say about German inventions and German jet planes.But why making such a sloppy researched video with so many wrong informations?
megatwingo 4 years ago
He 162 was hastily constructed and was TERRIBLE to fly. Bad flying abilities. Only flyable for experienced pilots. But it was planned for quickly instructed Hitler youth boys (therefore the nickname "Volksjäger"). Impossible to fly for such boys. The first serial plane with an ejection seat was the He 219 "Uhu". I can´t understand, why the people don´t do a little research, before they are making a whole video with completely wrong informations for the people.
megatwingo 4 years ago
Megatwingo, the He 162 wasn´t terrible to Fly, it was Hard to fly. I recommend you to read Eric Browns Bock " Wings of the Luftwaffe". He describes the Plane as a very good and stable Weapon Platform, when it´s in the Air, but absolutely nothing for beginners. That´s right, you wrote this, but i yust wanted to remind you that it was only terrible for beginners, not for experienced Pilots.
Olli120 4 years ago 2
Then I´ve read the wrong books and watched the wrong docus. Or I made the wrong conclusions from what I saw and red. Maybe the "terrible" characteristics were really only described for the hastly educated Hitleryouth boys, where this plane was planned for.
megatwingo 4 years ago
Yes that´s what i meant.
Olli120 4 years ago 2
It is a pity that Germany did not have enough time to prepare to smask the russkies. German attack against Soviets in WWII was more like a counter attack not to let the russkies to that first...
worras2007 4 years ago
Predator soundtrack :) The Heinkel-162 had potential, given that they had got good alloys and real adhesives, this plane with the Me-262 could have made a difference.
MastaMag 4 years ago
This was a long way from being a "superb" plane. Lethally unstable and structurally unsound due to poor adhesives. We brits had flattened the factory that made the good glue. Ha ha ha. Loosers.
Arcmate 4 years ago
the english did shit, just hide behind the sofa with their gay public accents while US dollars and Russian blood won the war. The commonwealth and other UK countries did more than the english throughout the war. Then the english take the credit while at the time acted like cowards.
LeonWgner 4 years ago
"Lethally unstable and structurally unsound due to poor adhesives."
Yes, first were quite poor quality.
"We brits had flattened the factory that made the good glue. Ha ha ha. Loosers."
Germans started to build it in big numbers but war ended. So it did fly quite well actually...at least thats what british pilots said when they tested it.
Losers? lot of said from guy whos country was saved by americans.
MokomaSusi 4 years ago
shup up you panzy, - apparently the 1st kill of the 162 was a British plane, a typhoon :D hahahh - in your face
fuck the queen, she's an old imbread reptilian, - and Princa Hary should step on a landmine, - thats my greeting to England!
Anton1941 4 years ago
"shup up you panzy, - apparently the 1st kill of the 162 was a British plane, a typhoon :D hahahh - in your face"
Did you read anything what i writed?
MokomaSusi 4 years ago
One brit pilot tried to fly one of these. It went out of control due to the instabilities I mentioned earlier. No further attempts were made. It crashed and he was killed near Farnborough. The Tego Film factory which made the adhesives for German wooden aircraft was flattened by the RAF-fact. Attempts were made to use an alternative adhesive which actually rotted the wood causing structural failures. This was nothing like a war winning aircraft. It was a waste of engineering rescourses.
Arcmate 3 years ago
If it wasn't for the "brits" the P51 wouldn't have been anywhere near as good, it used a version of the merlin
moomoo1337 3 years ago
if it wasn't for us brits america would not of had an operating base so that we both (yes thats right regardless of films such as saving private ryan us brits were also involved in the normandy landings) could laun an offensive in the west
lumarshall 3 years ago
Nice audio use!
RichRite 4 years ago
I think this plane scored a single kill (hawker tempest), however the killer was also killed in same mission. We know this because the tempest shot down pilot was captured by germans and said this.
polmas 4 years ago 3
It never saw combat, and had no kills. It was "In Service" but never fired a shot or engaged an enemy. The same holds true for the American F8F,i t was onboard Carriers going to Japan in August 1945, but never saw combat.
CBass1307 4 years ago
He 162 did get one kill in the war. Also they wrre used by Hitler Jugend squadron but all files were lost.
Also british pilots who tested Salamander said it was really good plane to fly.
MokomaSusi 4 years ago 2
Hey ADWI123 Maybe its true that Americans stole everything from the germans but.....
If they didnt u now would bnot even born!!
[Germans then maybe controlled the world X( ]
13Psycho13 4 years ago
Damn, If that doesn't look like the grand-daddy of the A-10 Warthog (Thunderbolt II)
novice8814 4 years ago
lol, true dat.
shugo32 4 years ago
the americans developed SHIT they developed nothing , they just STOLE everything from the germans ;) everybody knows that and their military wouldnt be as powerfull today if they hadnt stolen everything from the germans ... comeon thats poor
adwi123 4 years ago 8
@adwi123 Both the US and Russia, most of the Tech went to the US as the Germans were more pro US
brendonnz1964 1 year ago
@brendonnz1964 Yeah, not to mention that they were paid very handsomely and they were showed respect and freedom. Stalin on the other hand, extremely mistrusted intellectuals and had them kept as virtual prisoners, and most likely had many executed if they crossed him, or their designs didn't show much promise.
YambidiBlamBlam 2 months ago
the range of 900km sounds completely unrealistic. its flight time was reported to be 30min. max due to fuel consumption, what would give rather 300km range, some 100km operational radius. also it's shielding is apparently void (wooden+fragile engine!).
krbosak 4 years ago
Hi, what you said is not completly right. The flight time is 30 min., at Sea-height. At 11000 Meters the flight time is pushed up to 83 min. While flying with 765 km/h at 11000 Meters, the Range is approximatley 1147 Km. If you dont believe me, check it for yourself.
Olli120 4 years ago
Hi krbosak, what you´ve said is not completly right. The flight time is 30 min., but only at sea-height. At 11000 Meters the flight Time is pushed up to 83 min. While flying with 765 km/h at 11000 Km, the range is approximatley 1147 Km. If you don´t believe me, check it for yourself.
Olli120 4 years ago 2
buen video pero por suerte para muchos jovenes, este avion no se uso. en primer vuelo de prueba, las alas se despegaron por la mala calidad del pegamento usado y mato al piloto. se desarrollo en poco tiempo y fue una proeza, apenas 90 dias desde la peticion hasta el prototipo, pero un gran peligro para pilotosjovenes con apenas unas horas de entrenamiento en planeadores.
elquedepreda 4 years ago
hes right the do 335 already got an ejection seat and some 262 had one many german planes got one ;)
Hetzer12 5 years ago
The allegation re. first use of an ejection seat is incorrect. HE219 featured this in 1943.
smidon 5 years ago
You may be right. I knew that ejection seats had been used by the Germans previously, but I thought the first time it had been used in combat was the HE-162. I'll look into it, cheers for the advice.
SemtexOnline 5 years ago
I think it was 1942 that the HE 219 became the first production aircraft to be fitted with an ejection seat, after the HE 280 jet prototype had the system fitted in 1940.
Toolpusher 5 years ago
The earliest ejection seats were developed by an innovative British aircraft company named Martin-Baker in 1934. They also made the Martin-Baker MB5, one of the great unknown fighter planes, but that's another story.
Northside777 4 years ago
@SemtexOnline Smidon is right, but it's the first jet-propelled plane to get an ejection seat (not because of the location of the turbojet on top of the fuselage, right after the cockpit).
deckarudo 1 year ago
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@SemtexOnline Smidon is right, but it's the first jet-propelled plane to get an ejection seat (because of the location of the turbojet on top of the fuselage, right after the cockpit).
deckarudo 1 year ago
excelente muy buen video
panzer25251 5 years ago