League of Legends - S2 Jungle Viktor

[BadMannerKorea]

I like that you're trying to be innovative, but there's no reason to go Viktor over the current meta junglers.

[asdfasddfafssfsgfffg]

jungle talon please.

[maX0229567]

Nice gag.

[urza4315]

Sigh... any champ can jungle after the jungle remake.

[iNeveRzz]

i think u are Phreak cuz u jungling with every champ

[tivatboy1]

do u ever lane with any champion?

[ALBVIkUS]

pls stop making out clips with sad music its so sad :(( in rest is good :P

[RichyRainbows]

Very slow jungler. It would be too easy getting counter-jungled. However, you did not start at blue with a leash from your teammates, which is definetely a big factor when it comes to jungling. Maybe you should do another video starting at blue buff with leash and progressing from there.

PS: start with your q.

[stonewall008]

@RichyRainbows watch the team battle

[iluvlolforever]

@RichyRainbows dude start with Q? q is a single target which is useless against wolfs well since u said so much how abt u make a video starting with blue instead of him?

[ShootApu]

crazy masteries :D

[Near10011101]

Wow... if the enemy counter jungle you you're dead... this is stupid

[lifehouse11010]

@Near10011101 implying he considers this viable is a ranked/competitive play

[izraqthedark]

It really amazes me how you do such unpredictable jungles I regard you as a god of jungling.

[evanbunnell]

You've been groovin' the slow jams in your vids recently. I dig it. :)

[Supajawa22]

So... tier 3?

[MochoDingo]

hey stonewall. is he worth having? people say he sucks

[MrZeldaGuy]

I was a bit faster skilling q first only killing the big wolf and then doing blue also i had much more hp and could continue on jungling forever :D

[logosloki]

music to blob warfare to.

[TheMonacleSpy]

I see you went the smart path and took the gravity augment. It has so much team fight potential.

[TuRk3R1]

OOMG

[Shadowfury2222]

Why don't u move between autoattacks when killing blue golem? ._.

[gandalfgrey5]

i had actually thought about using viktor as a jungle today, the shield seemed like it would be useful

[killermine12]

Can you do Jungle Talon or Jungle Pantheon??

[HardLightLoL]

i must honestly say, with my rune setup and starting with q-spell, it was way easier to do the wolves and blue. it isnt the best way for viktor jungle but its nice for damage on wolves and blue. also, jungle viktor isnt as bad as it looks. i tried it and we just lost because we had the biggest troll setup in the world.

so far

[Darklordiban7]

Jungle time would have been a few seconds faster had you pulled the Ancient Golem closer to his lizards.

[stonewall008]

@Darklordiban7 like what 1 second?

[haarbal1997]

@stonewall008 3 sec xd

[Darklordiban7]

@stonewall008 When you're jungling, every second counts. If you're planning on ganking, that's one second less the enemy has to prepare for you.

I'm sure you, of all people, understand the importance of microing.

[hurr1can]

This and "Team battle" videos are my champion spotlight :]

[Dorfmaist]

Could you post an image on your masteries, cuz I´m not sure how the offense-tree should look.

[OkamiSojirou]

@Dorfmaist in the description

[juiced012]

Anyone with an AoE can practically jungle, it's pathetic.

[NoDamnNameAvailable]

great choice of music, as usual

[cheezecakeV2]

Oh dear. That is not a safe jungle.

[Squall07524]

Im pretty sure that trynd dove you... did you survive? lmao

[stonewall008]

@Squall07524 yes

[Maaateenify]

Bump for Sona of the game :D

[ZheGardenGnome]

#1 rule of jungling:

Never.Question.Stonewall.

[TempestDacine]

Stonewall, which core upgrade do you like the most for viktor? I couldn't decide at first but I kinda like the speed boost on Q because it seems like the skill I'd spam the most, and health = more survivability.

[P4r4k]

speed and sustain sucks....but ganks are incredibly stong with that stun

[Pwnsammich]

He's also using Attack Speed reds. Not that great for mid/late

[mrnommitynomnom]

Which augment do you reccomend in jungle and in lane?

[legionofpie]

Is this guy good enough to be one item down in the endgame?

[NirvEnd]

@legionofpie down an item? The item he gets is better then anything you can buy... 54ap no matter which thing you take at lvl 18. If you go chaos that is another 45ap +more laser damage.. I think you need to read about champions more...

[tsunami762]

@legionofpie His little upgrade thing is actually fine for him. Plus, would you like another super OP caster where he would get basically a "free" upgrade on something like that, giving him a theoretic 7 items? His staff is 1 item, and that's that. It also makes playing him a bit harder because you must choose which items to take.

[P4r4k]

I wish Riot could make a new pure support with healing skills... or maybe another good tank... they just made figthers and nuke caster recently

[Resil27021]

the tags

[Serafe]

Can you do another jungle garen?

I tried him a few different builds, haven't tried cloth/5 hp pot yet because I was hoping to start a little more offensively, but doran's blade and vampiric scepter going QEQ and starting wraiths/red with a leash has been the most effective for ganking thus far. Had 6 ArP/3 AD reds, armor yellows, mRes/level blues, and AD quints with each attempt. Considered trying out the 8% crit gloves for an early avarice and starting spinning slash but dunno scaling on spin..

[TheWojtz]

@crombabi did you really call Victor a "supporter" ?

[Kamakratas]

pls do a team battle viktor as fast as you can... it would be very interesting

[xFayths]

imagine the ganks...

[ChinkyAsianPham]

You should have played the shufflin song instead, since his dance is linked to the shufflin dance

:D

[StanleyKingChan]

do you take the attack speed and armor pen in the masteries?

[gunha9]

Best music as always, Fits perfectly.

[StanleyKingChan]

i hate his passive :/

[Wraith5675]

BUT HOW DOES YOU HAS TWO ITEMS

[TheNoddy08]

@Wraith5675 passiv egives hime one

[nick1177]

@Wraith5675 are you retarded? victor starts with an item

[fatmatt589]

@Wraith5675 Viktor's passive is that he starts with an item that gives him +3AP / level and he could upgrade it to augment one of his 3 main abilities.

[splisha]

Viktor mid is like a free kill he gets out ranged by everyone...

lux against viktor is a joke, he cant even cs, and hes passive srsly takes an items slot?

He could do something solo top and thats it for me.

what u guys think about hes gameplay??

[Suicider12]

I don't like the mood of this music to augment gameplay :p

[F0rs4k3nR0gu3]

so he gets 1 lerss item slot than everyoone else?

[CommadoNoob]

@F0rs4k3nR0gu3 Indeed.

[samblanch1127]

@F0rs4k3nR0gu3 Augment Death gives 99 ability power and makes his E do a lot more damage. I wouldn't call it "wasted."

[funzjake]

does he not realize he can move his ult around?

[TheJuxtaposedKing]

while more champs can jungle, champs such as viktor cannot be taken seriously due to their rate of clearance compared to others

[tehhowardmok]

Did you die to the Trynd at the end?

[Dizturb3dWun]

@tehhowardmok I doubt it, his W had just come off cooldown.

[Saatan1234]

@tehhowardmok We´ll all see in the upcomming teambattle video...

[PwnT0mmy]

Tier 3?

[crombabi]

This is kind of an unwillingly persiflage or comedy.

In the old jungle it would have been nearly impossible to jungle with chars like taric, malzahar or viktor. But now Phreak could take any champ and say:

"I play Champion XY as a jungler." Whether its a mage, tank, assasin or whatever.

Jungle is too easy when supporters can jungle effectively.

[GenDoukeshi]

@crombabi But they can't. Just because something can be done doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea. Soraka, for example, was always a decent jungler, but no one's going to do it. Why? Cause she can't really do anything else a good jungler needs to. The jungle may be easier to get into, but I would argue that the new changes add more depth to the whole thing. Sure there are some ridiculous options now, but choosing the right options will separate the pros from others.

[stonewall008]

@crombabi uh no - you can go back and watch my taric and malzahar videos BEFORE the rework

[Suicider12]

@crombabi ...stonewall's always done these kinds of videos, even before the jungle rework. Also, soraka's the fastest jungler in the game, comparable to udyr.

[GenDoukeshi]

@crombabi Plus, just looking at this video, can you call that effective jungling? If there's a way to do it Stonewall will figure it out. That's just what he does. But if he messed up basically once on either buff controller, or if any enemy decided to counter jungle, well he'd have just been dead, no questions about it.

[stonewall008]

@GenDoukeshi well team battle Viktor is coming soon - so wait for that.

[Hypermarth]

@stonewall008 What about team battle blitz xD?

[Midaspl]

@stonewall008 I'm waiting for team battle DotA2 (best will be with me playing on the other lane :P).

[NirvEnd]

@stonewall008 laser arm of doom best part of his kit in terms of entertainment.

[samplesowoopass]

@GenDoukeshi Imagine if he had gotten help on wolves and a pull on blue like you usually will in a real game.

[duo1666]

@GenDoukeshi Define "Effective jungling" first. That should answer your own question.

[TheEponet]

@crombabi Anyone could jungle before the rework using different pathing but some had such horrible clear speed that no one in their right mind would do so.

Anyone can jungle post rework, but some are so slow that no one in their right mind would do it.

[NirvEnd]

@crombabi Crombabi not to be rude but... you could solo jungle everyone with a fair pace sep for leblanc in old jungle... Malz is actually and has been a fast clear with a good amount of hp left.. Taric jungle is not new it just became less common... You sir disappointed me with your above comment...

[XInfinityXify]

not the best jungler but still good.

[aitshi]

Music - Beyond Earth by Kevin Ma-wait, what?

[Darkreaper71]

already up... you are very fast.

[Gunzsoldier]

whats the first item :S

[BoobHuntress]

@Gunzsoldier Watch the champion spotlight,...

[Marukittens]

@Gunzsoldier his passive

[Azurada23rd]

@Gunzsoldier Hex Core. his passive places it in his inventory. it can be upgraded at the shop later to power up one of his abilities

[Seraphita2k]

and at the end he died :o

^^ but thanks for the prove of conzept

[TossThatSauce]

you certainly do jungle with everyone :O

[fakeouch]

This hero is crap i think. teach me otherwhise if he isnt haha xD

[superkamenriderfan]

@fakeouch you're gonna get like a thousand responses from ragers in like a week

[fakeouch]

@superkamenriderfan haha good to know xD

[SaoPauloOrBust]

He seems less than stellar. Perhaps I'll just continue using him in mid lane.

[PPGaminGProductions]

@murilosurf11 makin this one top comment then :D

[stathis30f]

Am shooting my arm lazers xD I love these tags

[HzWyrdo]

In my opinion Udyr is just a tad bit better :)

[murilosurf11]

bonus 3:00

[KrunchyKibblesGaming]

You might want to change the description.  In the description you said the skill order was QEE but in the video you used EQE.

<3

[Oamlzy]

Stonewall008 if you had to put him in a tier which one would it be? (in genereal speed+ganks etc)

[PPatuify]

Hehe Viktory

[Dudedafool]

Bacon.

[goL1cc]

jungle sion s2 plz? :)

[lukkieBE]

YOu are not the real stonewall!