its very simple 1+1=2 so if from 40 meters and deeper you have to be advanced open water the train for Nirtox then deep diver then from there you can move to inro to tech divig then 40 45 50 and so if u go other the other way then its very simple your a dumb a** Mother f***** and you deserve what happens when you dont go with the rules.
@PMJustinY its complicated to explain it all here but the deeper you go the slower you have to resurface, you have to be careful about your depth and time spent at that depth and so on, there is a lot of information about how scuba diving works and why is it done the way it is just google it up. Basically what could happen here was he dived too deep and the equipment he had could not bring him back :(
@a6km Another way I heard why is because the deeper you go down you lose the brain power to think about swimming up. And oxygen deprivation can make divers take out their regulators to give them to fish.
@iToxic1337 Basically you get "drunk" from Nitrogen and you loose the sense of balance, so you dont know which way is up or down. My narcosis sets in about 45 - 50 meters deep but it sets in slowly so I know what is going on and I can stop before I get into serious trouble. I start hearing the echo from my breathing like in a cave when you say something and it echoes plus everything starts to spin slowly like if I was on a carousel so I know don't go any deeper plus I always have someone with me
@iToxic1337 if you go deep enough its not oxygen deprivation, but actually the opposite, oxygen toxicity. That's why 'bottom gases' have as low as one third the atmospheric amount of oxygen. 21% oxygen at depths like 90m might be deadly to people. Extremely deep dives eventually have 7% oxygen,, if people breathed that on the surface they could pass out and die but at pressure it's the correct amount.
@PMJustinY Alot of things come into effect, overweighted, nitrogen narcosis, and possible convulsions at this point. The video doesn't show the whole clip. He may have been making his way towards the surface when the camera turned off, or he could of continued to sink and pass away.
@deanleerip The blue hole is not extremely deep, the problem being is people dive it on single tanks and run high risk of narcosis and oxygen poisoning at depth. Yuri did this, he was a good diver, not professional but experienced. Tarag(the Egyptian guy) is a technical diver who is far more experienced and uses trimix gas to reduce these symptoms. Yuri evidently had ripped his BCD, which enables him to float up and down and fell uncontrollably down the slope to 111m, he was in a fog of narcosis
The diver's incompetent use of and obsessing over his camera highlights the dangers of losing touch with priorities, that is, if your priority is to continue to live. Fussing around and experimenting with equipment on a dive where you are also pushing your skill limits is a very bad idea.
The diver's incompetent use of and obsessing over his camera highlights the dangers of losing touch with priorities, that is, if your priority is to continue to live. Fussing around and experimenting with equipment on a dive where you are also pushing your skill limits is a very bad idea.
In that part of the world they dont have any training....They just throw a tank on and end up dead! Happens all the time over there...Taking one tank past 40 ft here in the states you are told you will never make it out alive....You and your dive buddy respect that, your master makes it very clear on all open water dives! They just need regulations and a nice hotel....beautiful place!
oipbhakeld: #1 Well, you are not the first person to come up with such a conclusion. I heard other people talking about it too. It would seem realistic if only Yuri's camera was not rated down only to 70 m. stopped filming his computer
oipbhakeld #3: That contradicts the whole theoryof "Yuri wanted to film himself" since he did no attempt to catch any image of himself before he reaches 81 m.
oipbhakeld:#4 also that camera costed Yuri a lot of money and even presuming he was not a professional videographer less than likely he was intended to "kill" his camera at greater depth than it was rated just for the sake of "being filmed".
oipbhakeld:#6 the way Yuri attached the camera to the body and the way he was equipped makes me think that he more likely wanted to "film the Arch". he definitely ghad no idea "where the arc"h was located". he started to desccent on the rong side of the Blue Hole, thus he ended up in the shallowest part of the BH, you can see the bottom at 81 m deep? Also pay attention how dark is there, you can hardly see anything. Tthat's it. The Arch starts at the "deeper point"
oipbhakel:#9 His body was found appr. at 111-112 m deep on the bottom of the BH. I dove that place, I wanted to see it and it only confirmed that we were right in our conclusions. Yuri unable to maintain his buoyancy was slipping down from the shollowest part of the bottom towards the Arch.
my 2cents. ive spent the last 4 hours trying to figure out what happened to this guy. that is the extent of my knowledge about scuba diving. i had no knowledge of many facts about scuba diving before today. im a smart person, and in my opinion, it seems that yuri was a dare devil, that went there for one reason, he wanted to get on film, him diving to the bottom of the blue hole and back up on one tank of regular air, and he couldnt get positivley buoyant and that was the ball game.
oipbhakeld#2: And when I spoke with Yuri's father he said Yuri was literally obsessed with his camera, he was treating it with great care. So he should have stopped at 69 m deep, understanding that the camera could be in worast case scenario: flooded, in best case scenario: stop recording if he goes deeper than 70 m. What you see in original footageis that first time "Yuri film his computer"occurs at 81 m deep! Than he goes deeper...
oipbhakeld:#5 On the other hand: could he be unaware of the camera being rated down to 70m? The answer is: yes, he could be unaware but it's hard to believe it since even Yuri's father who is not a diver was aware of that rated depth.
oipbhakeld:#8 So slippiring down the slope" of the BH's bottom Yuri was approaching the Arch i.e.dramatically encreasing the depth that ultimatelly killed him. He defintely experiencing problems trying to ascend from 80 m, so being at 90+ would only add more problems.
Perhaps you could help me: In the video where the half dozen or so people are sitting watching and analyzing the video there is a larger man at the end who says, "Fuck! Sport? Sport? (Translated to English) Not worth it."
CarMoves: Did you watch Yuri's video footage? I mean not the edited "footage" they presented in the "Rapture of the Deep". But the ORIGINAL footage? I did. I watched it 1000 times before I came up with this conclusion. He does NOT die on this tape. That's the truth.
CarMoves#7: His Scubapro "Sea Hawk" BCD had a very limited lifting capacity, much worse than other rec. BC. apart from it that BCD had 2 dump valves with 2 huge dangling knobs: one on top of the right shoulder and one at the bottom (left side) I noticed one of them was missing when Yuri body was recovered. The bottom one. It made me think that the following might have happened...
CarMoves: Exactly. if you study the information about tha so called "semi-tech BC" you will find out that many divers were complaining about its performance "at depth". Their major concern was its lifting capacity.
CarMoves#3: That's why Yuri bought that "tech BCD" and that's why it failed. And as I said before As you know Scubapro doesn't make this BCD anymore. Tech diving gear should consist of a backplate with harness and a wing, making a BCD for "tech diving" was not a very good idea.
CarMoves: ps. the lifting capacity of the so "called wing" o the Sea Hawk was claimed to be 32 lbs. In fact it was just about 28lbs, whilst a tech dive wing should be not less than 40-60lbs.
CarMoves#39: I'l tell you more: Yuri did a few dives on Nitrox 32 down to 60 m deep "to learn O2 poisoning effect".And he described al he felt in the article. Don't ask me "why he did it". I don't why some people do rather silly things. I think he was young, naive, passionate about deep diving/filming, very stubborn, he survived a few deep dives so he assumed he was "safe".
CarMoves: That's what they were saying when we contacted them, the guy in Moscow who used to know Yuri when he was asked to give us an interview about Yuri exclaimed: "is he still alive?!"
CarMoves:#2 So if you go for sky diving using umbrella instead of a parachute and somehow end up dead, could you call it "equipment malfunction"? Certainly not. It would be your fault to use the wrong gear in the wrong place for a wrong purpose.
Using an unbrella to skydive is a silly analogy, because you would never use an umbrella to skydive, ever.
Yuri's BC was for "recreational" use, and he meant to go on a recreational dive.
Due to his BC malfunction, he dropped farther than a recreational depth -- a malfunction.
Give me the timestamp in the orginal video where he drops his weights? This would only help him under 100ft -- at 300ft, dropping weight would be useless as his wetsuit and body wouldn't provide enough left.
CarMoves: I am glad we already agreed on one isue: using an umbrella for a sky dive is silly. Yuri didn't go for a recreational dive, he went there to film the Arch" (55-60 m deep) You should really talk with Yuri's father and get more information about his dive from a reliable source.
CarMoves#3: Yuri did a few deep dives in his BCD one tank/air before his accident in Blue Hole and he wrote an article about his 90 m dive in Russian magazine Voyage in 1999. He was fascinated with deep diving, but he had very little knowledge about it nor he had formal technical dive training. Dropping the weights was something very "normal" for him. That was what every rec. diver would do if they went too deep and discovered their BC failed to "lift them up".
theunraveler: I am not sure I have this article, I need to check it out. That was Yuri's father who brought me the magazine in 2003, he said that Yuri published some "scary article" and he wanted me to read it. The article was called "In Deep".Yuri describes his feelings associated with his deep diving experience( Russian "Voyage" magazine, 1999)
CarMoves#4: So that's what he did: dropped his weights, but the problem was that he was tangled in the light s cords of his camera that he wrapped around his body. So it takes him a long time to get rid of he extra weight.
CarMoves#5: Yuri's dive gear configuration for a dive was ridiculously naive. He had a camera with housing + 2 canister lights attached to it, the ;lights had yellow cords (you can see them in the video) which were literally "wrapped" around his body and that trapped his weight pockets. Well, he found it out at the bottom, and tried to disentangle himself, but that was too late.
CarMoves#7: because the housing for the camera he used was rated down to 70 m. The camera "malfunctioned". and BTW he dropped his weights and you can clearly see it and hear it.
CarMoves #8: Yuri had a "habit" to literally sit down at the bottom (he describes it in his article) during his deep dives. When he realized he can't "lift himself up" he sat at the bottom (you can also see it in the video) trying to solve the problem. And that could have led that after inflating the BC he pulled his bottom dump valve whle sitting on it and added to the problem dumping more air from his BCD.
CarMoves#35: You say: "Who said he died "on the tape"? The "tag". The title of the movie you're talking about. And the guys (divers) who are making their comments watching the tape in the film.
CarMoves#36: You say: "You don't need to watch the tape 1000 times -- ten will do, and the accident is obvious.". I reply: Well, I am very glad for you. But you obviously didn't understand what's going on on this tape. Like you didn't understand that "my reenacted tape" has 3 trimix divers behind it" until I told you. So I hesitate to believe you can "understand what's going on". How the hell you cae to the idea Yuri "planned a recreational dive"??!
CarMoves#37:Does Yuri say in his video before his dive: "I plan a recreatinal dive, guys, and if by any chance, I end up at 100 m dead, please know I didn't mean it??" No, he doesn't say a word. I asume you don't speak Russian nor you ever read Yuri's articles, and the diveshe practices (90 meters was the deepest ad he said he was palnning 100 m dive on one tank) nor you spoke to the people who knew Yuri and his "plans".
CarMoves#38: Well, in the beginning I also thought Yuri planned a recreational dive. I was very surprised to find out he didn't and I was shocked when I read his article about deep diving. I'm sorry it has never been translated into English or made public. It would make a lot of sense to people like you who are interested in Yuri's accident.
CarMoves: The WHOLE "death tape" is REENACTED video footage, you should watch the documentary before you jumpt into any conclusions, "MoveYourCar". Who told you that Yuri was "in panic"?! Did you watch his tape? How many times did you watch it?
This video is part of the documentary -- what are you watching?
And the re-enacted video is more dramtic than the actual video , leading people to the wrong conclusion about the dive.
To narrate that he was happily heading to the bottom, is a joke.
Did YOU see the actual video? I think dropping 300ft, on a single tank, with no support, no technical training, and pumping a bc in vain, could only be conidered a "panic".
CarMoves: Yes, it is. And my reenactment is NOT "more dramatic" than the actual footage, in fact it's much "less dramatic". This reenctment is based upon a meticulous study of Yuri's original tape in high res.This tape is still with me and you can watch it. I am the only one person who always provides the most accurate comments in regards of his video,
Knowing you're the person that made the film is a bonus.
* It's filled with all this "magic" talk about the Blue Hole, which is irrelevant to the place. It's no mystery -- untrained divers dive and die -- no voodoo
* Are you even a diver? To say an inexperienced diver, alone, dropped 300ft on a single tank was "happily" diving, is a joke.
* I watched Yuri's tape a couple of dozen times, and your re-enactment was way more dramatic.
Hiding behind the word "documentary" doesn't make it true.
CarMoves#9: He is obviously confused but narced heavily to realize where the problem is coming from. But you can aso see and hear the air being dumped. That confused me a lot, I though why the hell he was doing that, I found and bought that Sea Hawk BCD in Texas USA (they stopped producing it already by 2004) and we did a few dives to understand what might have happened. So that was one of the possibilities.
CarMoves#10:His dump valve tangled in the corals, Yuri slided down the bottom pulled the vlave and dumped the air. But that was not a very important discovery. The most important thing was the "inflator/regulator" of "Sea Hawk". That was really very interesting and I don't think anybody has ever guessed to have a look at the specific dive gear Yuri used.
CarMoves#11: If you LISTEN to the sound of the video attentively without assumption that Yuri's in "panic" , he is "drowning" and "choking and making weird noises, but trying just to figure out "how many times Yuri is inflating his BCD"? You will be surprised to find out that he actually is not inflating it much at all (and he had to do it to keep buoyant, right? ) so why he is not doing it?
CarMoves#3: Secondly, Yuri had no clue about deep diving and had very little knowldege of decompression, if somehow he managed to make it back to the surface, he would either run out of air and die (drown) or he would die of the DCS (decompression sickness) would that have made any difference?
CarMoves #4: In the fim I am talking about what I see, watching the tape, and I clearly see that he is NOT in panic, his equipment does not malfuction and he does NOT die in the end of the tape. So... the original tape is NOT "the death caught on tape" but a sheer speculation of people who unfortunately doesn't have an acces to al the information regarding Yuri's dive.
CarMoves#2: so next time when you start such "arguing" with film-makers please take you time to do your "homework" at least you are aware of who you are talking with and what exactly about. OK? Now I have to go, I am leaving to Singapore in two hours. And I will be out of contact for 2 weeks. Take care, Elena Konstantinou
He probably did die due to Nitrogren Narcosis. Which results in a state of drukeness and he probably did spit out his regulator. Most likely he didn't know what was happening as you are most likely to get this below 40 meters (using Air) and he was at 100+ M... :-(
he was dive with normal air 20% o2 and 79% n2 and 1% other gases after 42 meter start to get Nitorgen narcosis and after 66 meter Oxygen toxicity. plus panic all this in same time under 60 meter it is verey hard to go to serface without BCD
Hey, im currently getting my certification for regular diving (beginner). But since I know your an experienced diver is there any distinct diferences you can tell between nitrox and just regular tanks.
Hey, Ive commented on this vid alot a while back. I comprehend what happened. 1st mistake diving regulations prohibit 30m on one tank of air. He happen to go 3x that limit. Also he was probably breahting pure oxygen the rest of what happened is a mystery. Ps I recently did some diving in water to see if it was for me and I love it. I'm probably going to starting diving. :)
Quite clearly you don't know what you are talking about. He wasn't breathing 'pure oxygen' and it's not a mystery at all. He dove too deep, was not using the correct equipment and fell victim to a combination of Nitorgen narcosis and Oxygen toxicity. Mostly what killed him was stupidity.
Ronhend : NO you DON'T KNOW that. You can't breath "O2" underwater being deeper than 6 meters. There is no chance Yuti planned "pure O2 dive" , no one dives with O2, that's a decompression gas.
CarMoves: Exactly. More over he was diving in a recreation scuba gear (Sea Hawk BCD, one tank with air) That's why I don't say that was "equipment malfunction" since this sort of equipment is not designed for deep dives.
CarMoves#6: That's why it's not your fault that your judgement is wrong. You just do not have an access to this information. nd I tell you the truth, Yuri is still alive on the "tape that "caught his death" and it seems he is not yet ready to die. I repeat: on the tape, of course he died later, but the truth is by the time of his death the camera stopped filming.
So I think this all really comes dow the the aruguement over what makes you passs out at 58m. I dotn see anything under normal circustances that will do that. PPo2 isn't high enough. Narcosis never does. While it could lead to a mistake that causes drowning that isn't narcosis, that's diver error. Overexertion or reg malfunction isn't a normal circumstance and neither is a stroke or heart attack. So your argument was narcosis will make you pass out at 58m. That's what you were saying ya?
kwebber9: Exactly, they do it "together" both narcosis and PPO2 and other factors, so it's very difficult to separate one from another. In 2002 I also felt like "passing out diving" in Blue Hole, later I didn't felt like passing out, but I prefer to dive the Blue Hole on trimix. Yes, narcosis can make you pass put at 58 m, that was what I said.
kwebber9 :#3 As a result they go deep, experience inevitable problems related to N2 nircosis and high ppO2 , they panic, "pass out", black out , convulse and die. Sadly I saw many divers who "pushed their limits" without understanding what those limits were all about. Y. Lipsky is a very good example.
kwebber9 #10 When CNS results in convultions is also rather a hypothetis then a thery. When YUri's body was found at 111 m deep, it showed no obvious signs of convulsions. Yuri was lying there at the bottom on his stomach with his face down. That conclusion was that he was rather effected by nitrogen -oxigen narcosis, he literally FELL ASLEEP.
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Here is you telling me CNS and convulsions are jsut theory (ie arent proven)
kwebber9 :#3 We have already finished our discussion and we disagreed about one thing: you said that was NOT possible to "pass out" at 58m," due to N2 narcosis and I said that was possible to pass out at shallower depth than 58m, correct?
kwebber9:#5 I think that it doesn't matter how would you call the "effect" of mixing alchoholic drinks, but I call it "being drunk". And I describe the effect of deep air diving as "being narced". To make it easier for people to understand me.
kwebber9 :#7 Imagine yourself watching National geographic where they talk let's say about "time machine" using the scientific language. If you fail to understand them, it doesn't mean that you are stupid, it means that they are stupid, because they chose very narrow audience who at least should have PHDs in physics to understand what's this film is all about.
Deepest open circuit scuba dive was accomplished by Pascal Bernabé (Ralf Tech/WR1 Team) on July 5, 2005 descended to 1,083 feet (330 m). The dive took place near Propriano, Corsica.
kwebber9: I met with Pascal B. and interviewed him in 2005 in Cannes. That's why I can tell you what I think. I think he never did 330 m dive. Full stop.
Pascal Bernabé is a French SCUBA diver who lays claim to the world record for depth on a deep dive on self-contained breathing apparatus, at 330 meters (1,083 ft), There are pictures up on the ralf tec website...again...you misinforming people...
kwebber9, there is big difference between laying a claim and proving it to a body like Guinness World Records. One can attend University but one must pass the exams before the Certificate can be issued
I understand the difference....the guiness book of records no longer validates this type of record as the risk is too high and I'm guessing the bad press that would accomapny a fatality in unwanted. Pascals dive isn't disputed, its even backed by a multi million dollar tech company and displayed on their website. So wait...is overseasmedia now claiming to be the deepest human on earth? Assuming Elena is a woman she would be well over 100m past the current record. (is this nuno gomez typing?)
It is Nuno Gomes here. Let us make it simple. I can claim that I have run the 100 m sprint in 8 seconds, would you belive me? any one can make a claim, with a
WORLD RECORD one needs proof and independent verification (not your sponsor). I have far bigger companies sponsoring me, have a look at Bauer Compressors Germany or Poseidon Sweden to name a few (I do not even feature in their websites). By the way the dives were made in 2005, GUINNESS has only just stopped recognising these deep dives!!
In all honestly I will never argue ANYTHING involving technical diving with someone as yourself. I would consider you the record holder as yes it was verified. In your opinion do you think Pascal reached that depth? You are far more informed that I am in this than I am so I will take what you say as fact. I am almost honored that you would chime in on this discussion...maybe you can put an end to it...Does Nitrogen narcosis directly cause loss of conciousness?
kwebber9: I think Pascal didn't reach the depth, since his VR3 computer was still working fine, and the depth it showed was 263 m?? (Nuno, do you remember the number?) If Pascal dove below 300m there is no chance his VR3 would work . Next, did you pay attention to the "tag" on Pascal's photo? Have a close look at it...
kwebber9: about Pascal and his "record dive". It's very difficult to put an end to something like that, when people do not recognize an obvious fact that any claimed record needs a proof. Pascal can't proof his record. He doesn't have anything to validate it, no rope, no tags, no video, no computer. So it's up to you to decide if he is a record holder or not.
I can only go with what I can access online. I cant argue to the validity of Pascals dive. You both seem more knowlegable when it comes to his dive so I can't argue that. If there is no proof then there is no proof. Nuno...you say what you think and I'll take that for true. Never said I was informed on his dive. Hence not commenting on it...was more usign it as an example....should have used Nuno's...he didnt pass out...all i was saying...
kwebber9:#9 Incorrect. Vasillica or any other person watching this video may not be technical divers, they may be recreational, inexperienced divers or non-divers, and it doesn't make them "stupid" if they do not know about combined effects or N2 narcosis and O2 toxicity. I am not trying to teach people tech diving, I am making films.
kwebber9: I HOPE people who entrust their lives to her do not entrust her to take them deep on a supply of one tank with air. PADI dive masters and Instructors are not that aware of PP theories. A beginner in tech diving knows much more than they do.
kwebber9: Nuno doesn't dive to 100 m on a supply of one one tank with air. I don't think Pascal does this sort of dives too. For sure Pascal is a DEEP experienced diver that's why I think that was unfair to compare either Nuno, John Bennett, Jim Bowden or Pascal with such a diver as Yuri.
Never compared any of those to Yuri. I dotn think I compared anyone to Yuri. Sorry if you misread that. I would be upset if someone were to compare one of my friends to Yuri.
kwebber9 : That was not the question of "comparing" my personal friends to Yuri, but the question of comparing an experienced technical deep diver to a PADI instructor whose experience and knowledge is limited by 40 m. You should understand one thing, you are being trained to become a tech instructor, Yuri was not trained even as Adv. nitrox and deco procedures diver.
kwebber9, What I think is not important, the question is what proof is there? The 320m tag was not recovered by Pascal, his sponsor claimed that the rope stretched an extra 10 m (so we arrive at 330m). The only problem is that his VR3 read 266m and it was not damaged after the dive. Basically he can prove 266m. My dive was to 318.25 metres (no rope stretch). My rope stretch only 3.56m (determined at the University). However GUINNESS does not accept any rope stretch. So figure it out for yourself
Now nitrogen narcosis, yes it doe cause divers to loose consciousness, I have seen it with my own two eyes at 30m, 50m and at 90m (I had to rescue the divers)
Well then I stand corrected. Guess I'll just have to wait and see how long it takes me to see someone pass out. Physiologically I didnt think It was possible. At least that is what I have been taught and read. Stress will cause people to pass out I understand that. I'm not arguing here as I stated I would not argue with you Nuno.
kwebber9: You were "taught" a theory, and that's good that you learned it well. But when you have more practice you will experience a lot of things you have never been taught, sometimes it'll even contradicting the theory you were taught.
fair enough. OWSI instructors are taught and SHOULD understand pp02 and how it affects the body. Sadly a great number do not. I like to think I am well imformed and try to keep fluent in the theory and practice of diving physics. I have yet to see anyone pass out from narcosis but will have to keep an eye out for it. I still think the actualy effect of nitrogen on the nervous system doesn't cause the blackout but agree that the stress from it can. That a sound interpretation?
kwebber9: #1Your right, of course they were taught the theory of ppO2, but their choice is limited y diving either on a supply of one tank with air or (in best case scenario) EAN 32. OWSI do not learn advanced nitrox or deco procedures, they don't dive mixed gases, nor they dive with deco gases, thus they have a very little understanding of PP.
kwebber9:#2 We both understand that in order to dive safe we need to reduce the amount of O2 and N2 in the gas we breath and we know what these diver call "N2 narcosis" is actually the combined effect of both O2 and N2, ppO2 is critical but these divers don't know what this difference between 1,4 and 1,6 or 2,00ppO2 is all about.
kwebber9: Nuno Gomes set his record dive in May 2005. That was validated by the guiness book of records. Pascal claimed he dove 330 m in June 2005, one month later, right? So what was the reason Guiness Book didn't validate his record?? Because it was set "1 month later"? Isn't that rediculous?
kwebber9: ps By the way how could you compare Pascal Bernabe with anyone naive and inexperienced?! Like Yuri Lipsky? That's not fair. The guys I am talking with about "passing out" are far away from being "the deepest dudes on Earth".
kwebber9: I agree that may be a human body of such divers as Jim Bowden, John Bennett, Nuno Gomes, and surely Pascal Bernabe go well past 100 m. But there are certainly people who...uhm.. can't do what these guys were doing. I hope at least you can agree with me on that.. BTW have you ever been below 100 m?
Just shy of, will be this year again depending on schedules and what not. I tell you what, I wont be passing out. Assusming you have been and havent passed out doesnt that back up my point?
kwebber9 : I am very sorry, but from what I can see you are the one who is UNINFORMED, not me. So if yu want to learn something that you don't know, please listen attentively. No one is trying to "attack" Pascal as a respected deep diver. I know that he didn't dive below 300 m. Do you understand the difference between "knowing something" and
And....after looking at the video here is what I think happened....attempted bounce dive.. over weighted to drop fast....came down quicker than he thought he would...got narc'd....either malfuntion in his inflator or was too narc'd to operate...paniced....tried to drop weights...got tangled in his gear...02 toxicity hit him and that was the end...overseasmedia....got any thoughts on why that's wrong?
kwebber9: No that's not what I think "happened", I believe Iknow much more about Yuri's dive than anyone else Imet on youtube forums. E.g. Yuri's camera housing was rated to 70 m deep, and he loved his camera and had no intention to flood it going deeper 70 m. I think he experienced a problem on his way down 70 m that made him go deeper, than he "planned".
well PADI certified instructor...will be looking to complete my DSAT tech instructors within 18 months peniding time/work schedules....that enough for you? okay...you are russian....I was wondering about the vocab and grammar...I can undertand some of the confusions then....having to argue in a second language is tough...i know....i speak 3 of them....
All I want divers to know is that there are many problems you can encounter at depth, ie narcosis, oxygen toxicity, breathing turbulence resulting in overexertion and so forth. All I ask is that unless you completely understand what is happening don't comment on it. You could misinform someone and cause them to endanger themselves. As an instructor our job is to keep divers safe, misinforming them does the opposite. Telling anyone narcosis will make you black out is misinformation.
he was comletely "passed out"!!! So JB pressed his inflatior buton and Adnrew shot back to the surface, Andrew missed hi all deep stops, gained his concsiousness back at 60 m approximately but that was too late, he couldn't stop he reached the surface and jump out of the water upto him knees (I hope Mark's support did not "pass out" when they saw Mark fying out of the water up to his knees... That was not a very Healthy idea, but Mark came back to normal and wend back u/w for recompression.
It is obvious in the video that Yuri suffered form narcosis (everyone does even at 1m, its only deeper you can feel its effects) what is uncertain is whether he fell victim to CNS. At the depth he was at its very likely to have happened as he breached the widely accepted safe barrier of 1.6 PPo2. All I want divers to know is that there are many problems you can encounter at depth, ie narcosis, oxygen toxicity, breathing turbulence resulting in overexertion.
I only talking about what I know happened kwebber9 #6 in the past with very experienced deep airdivers and what can happened with anyone in the future if they continue to dive deep on air.Whould you probably like to steakwit these divers?
People also need to know that CNS will result in convulsions and "black out" resulting in drowning but they also need to know it its in no way related to narcosis other than the fact they can occur at depth. For you to allude that narcosis and loss of conciousness are linked lead me to believe you don't truely understand what is happening at depth, those are two unrelated processes happening in your body.
kwebber9 #7 OK,so you thik I din't understand correctly of what is happining at depth, all right, I agree, I don't undertand correctly what makes a diver to pass out (completely lose control) blackout, etc exprience discomfort during a 60m dive.And I hop we can sort it out together and finally find out what's true and what's false
there is no such thing as oxygen narcosis...please stop saying that....
""So is oxygen narcosis fact or fiction? The scientific data available do NOT support the conclusion that oxygen is narcotic. They also do not and can not show that oxygen has no narcotic effect.
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Fell asleep....yes that sounds right....how about lost conciousness due to hypoxia. cause sleeping sounds a little bit far fetched. was his reg in his mouth? Drowning is supposed to be like falling asleep tho...
kwebber9: There is such thing such an oxygen narcosis, that was denied in the past, but now it's a common knowledge that oxygen is narcotic as well as toxic. Try a google serach and you will find all necessary information there.
Why does it matter that he didn't try to call for help? Couldn't that just be a sign of narcosis?
Graest 2 weeks ago
its very simple 1+1=2 so if from 40 meters and deeper you have to be advanced open water the train for Nirtox then deep diver then from there you can move to inro to tech divig then 40 45 50 and so if u go other the other way then its very simple your a dumb a** Mother f***** and you deserve what happens when you dont go with the rules.
koftaboy 1 month ago
damn this guy is brave
chiinkynoodle 9 months ago
why cant he just swim up?
PMJustinY 1 year ago
@PMJustinY its complicated to explain it all here but the deeper you go the slower you have to resurface, you have to be careful about your depth and time spent at that depth and so on, there is a lot of information about how scuba diving works and why is it done the way it is just google it up. Basically what could happen here was he dived too deep and the equipment he had could not bring him back :(
a6km 11 months ago
@a6km Another way I heard why is because the deeper you go down you lose the brain power to think about swimming up. And oxygen deprivation can make divers take out their regulators to give them to fish.
iToxic1337 10 months ago
@iToxic1337 Basically you get "drunk" from Nitrogen and you loose the sense of balance, so you dont know which way is up or down. My narcosis sets in about 45 - 50 meters deep but it sets in slowly so I know what is going on and I can stop before I get into serious trouble. I start hearing the echo from my breathing like in a cave when you say something and it echoes plus everything starts to spin slowly like if I was on a carousel so I know don't go any deeper plus I always have someone with me
a6km 10 months ago
@iToxic1337 if you go deep enough its not oxygen deprivation, but actually the opposite, oxygen toxicity. That's why 'bottom gases' have as low as one third the atmospheric amount of oxygen. 21% oxygen at depths like 90m might be deadly to people. Extremely deep dives eventually have 7% oxygen,, if people breathed that on the surface they could pass out and die but at pressure it's the correct amount.
slunkmonky 8 months ago
@slunkmonky I know.
overseasmedia 7 months ago
@PMJustinY Alot of things come into effect, overweighted, nitrogen narcosis, and possible convulsions at this point. The video doesn't show the whole clip. He may have been making his way towards the surface when the camera turned off, or he could of continued to sink and pass away.
JakeandDavecrazyness 9 months ago
3:03 How many mothers..?
raween 1 year ago
@raween He meant "Yuri's mother and his stepmother"
overseasmedia 1 year ago
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k1no 1 year ago
What I don't understand is if people can't go in the blue hole how did they gets his body from the blue hole?
deanleerip 1 year ago
@deanleerip Why they "can't go to Blue Hole"? Of course they can, you only have to become a technical diver!
overseasmedia 1 year ago
@deanleerip they cant go all the way down
a6km 11 months ago
@deanleerip The blue hole is not extremely deep, the problem being is people dive it on single tanks and run high risk of narcosis and oxygen poisoning at depth. Yuri did this, he was a good diver, not professional but experienced. Tarag(the Egyptian guy) is a technical diver who is far more experienced and uses trimix gas to reduce these symptoms. Yuri evidently had ripped his BCD, which enables him to float up and down and fell uncontrollably down the slope to 111m, he was in a fog of narcosis
TecDiver05 4 months ago
Rule number one : NEVER dive alone.
DeathByM76 1 year ago
RIP
deepfast124 1 year ago
Are you the pretty woman at 3:38, Elena?
thegirl44 1 year ago
@thegirl44 Yes (blush!)
overseasmedia 1 year ago
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The diver's incompetent use of and obsessing over his camera highlights the dangers of losing touch with priorities, that is, if your priority is to continue to live. Fussing around and experimenting with equipment on a dive where you are also pushing your skill limits is a very bad idea.
Trpanek 1 year ago
The diver's incompetent use of and obsessing over his camera highlights the dangers of losing touch with priorities, that is, if your priority is to continue to live. Fussing around and experimenting with equipment on a dive where you are also pushing your skill limits is a very bad idea.
Trpanek 1 year ago
In that part of the world they dont have any training....They just throw a tank on and end up dead! Happens all the time over there...Taking one tank past 40 ft here in the states you are told you will never make it out alive....You and your dive buddy respect that, your master makes it very clear on all open water dives! They just need regulations and a nice hotel....beautiful place!
NoGuyComesClose 1 year ago
What does it feel like to get O2 toxicity?
theunraveler 1 year ago
tell me what you think of my theory, i am interested. please.
oipbhakeld 1 year ago
oipbhakeld: #1 Well, you are not the first person to come up with such a conclusion. I heard other people talking about it too. It would seem realistic if only Yuri's camera was not rated down only to 70 m. stopped filming his computer
overseasmedia 1 year ago
oipbhakeld #3: That contradicts the whole theoryof "Yuri wanted to film himself" since he did no attempt to catch any image of himself before he reaches 81 m.
overseasmedia 1 year ago
oipbhakeld:#4 also that camera costed Yuri a lot of money and even presuming he was not a professional videographer less than likely he was intended to "kill" his camera at greater depth than it was rated just for the sake of "being filmed".
overseasmedia 1 year ago
oipbhakeld:#6 the way Yuri attached the camera to the body and the way he was equipped makes me think that he more likely wanted to "film the Arch". he definitely ghad no idea "where the arc"h was located". he started to desccent on the rong side of the Blue Hole, thus he ended up in the shallowest part of the BH, you can see the bottom at 81 m deep? Also pay attention how dark is there, you can hardly see anything. Tthat's it. The Arch starts at the "deeper point"
overseasmedia 1 year ago
oipbhakel:#9 His body was found appr. at 111-112 m deep on the bottom of the BH. I dove that place, I wanted to see it and it only confirmed that we were right in our conclusions. Yuri unable to maintain his buoyancy was slipping down from the shollowest part of the bottom towards the Arch.
overseasmedia 1 year ago
oipbhakeld: Sorry just received your message and it seems like I have lost it... Anyway will send you the message via youtube.
overseasmedia 1 year ago
my 2cents. ive spent the last 4 hours trying to figure out what happened to this guy. that is the extent of my knowledge about scuba diving. i had no knowledge of many facts about scuba diving before today. im a smart person, and in my opinion, it seems that yuri was a dare devil, that went there for one reason, he wanted to get on film, him diving to the bottom of the blue hole and back up on one tank of regular air, and he couldnt get positivley buoyant and that was the ball game.
oipbhakeld 1 year ago
oipbhakeld#2: And when I spoke with Yuri's father he said Yuri was literally obsessed with his camera, he was treating it with great care. So he should have stopped at 69 m deep, understanding that the camera could be in worast case scenario: flooded, in best case scenario: stop recording if he goes deeper than 70 m. What you see in original footageis that first time "Yuri film his computer"occurs at 81 m deep! Than he goes deeper...
overseasmedia 1 year ago
oipbhakeld:#5 On the other hand: could he be unaware of the camera being rated down to 70m? The answer is: yes, he could be unaware but it's hard to believe it since even Yuri's father who is not a diver was aware of that rated depth.
overseasmedia 1 year ago
oipbhakeld:#8 So slippiring down the slope" of the BH's bottom Yuri was approaching the Arch i.e.dramatically encreasing the depth that ultimatelly killed him. He defintely experiencing problems trying to ascend from 80 m, so being at 90+ would only add more problems.
overseasmedia 1 year ago
@overseasmedia
Hello Elena,
I hope that all is well with you.
Perhaps you could help me: In the video where the half dozen or so people are sitting watching and analyzing the video there is a larger man at the end who says, "Fuck! Sport? Sport? (Translated to English) Not worth it."
Do you know this fellow's name?
thegirl44 1 year ago
@thegirl44 The video is called "The Rapture of the Deep" , I had a DVD (low res) will try to find it...
overseasmedia 1 year ago
So after Yuri Lipski and all the Russian divers, is there anything done to regulate the Blue Hole? Is diving more restricted now?
theunraveler 1 year ago
theunraveler : No, not really
scubazmei 1 year ago
My problems with this video:
3:34 - "Our team found the truth about the tape" -- No, it's your "opinion"
3:47 - "He seems relaxed and confident" -- wow, the real video shows the opposite
Your explanation for Yuri's death, sides with the supernatural
3:11 - "secrets" and "mysteries"
4:28 - "something strange happened to him at the bottom"
5:42 - "more oninous message"
Isn't it logical that Yuri had a malfunction, and forgot to drop his weights? Less sexy, yes, but closer to the facts.
CarMoves 2 years ago
CarMoves: Did you watch Yuri's video footage? I mean not the edited "footage" they presented in the "Rapture of the Deep". But the ORIGINAL footage? I did. I watched it 1000 times before I came up with this conclusion. He does NOT die on this tape. That's the truth.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
It's telling that you ignore my statements about your use of the supernatural to explain Yuri's death.
Yes, I watched the orginal video -- not the one with all the nonsense from non-divers.
Who said he died "on the tape"? You don't need to watch the tape 1000 times -- ten will do, and the accident is obvious.
CarMoves 2 years ago
CarMoves#7: His Scubapro "Sea Hawk" BCD had a very limited lifting capacity, much worse than other rec. BC. apart from it that BCD had 2 dump valves with 2 huge dangling knobs: one on top of the right shoulder and one at the bottom (left side) I noticed one of them was missing when Yuri body was recovered. The bottom one. It made me think that the following might have happened...
overseasmedia 2 years ago
The SeaHawk is actually not a rec bc. It was designed to be closer to tech. It had a detachable air cell like higher-priced harnesses.
CarMoves 2 years ago
CarMoves: Exactly. if you study the information about tha so called "semi-tech BC" you will find out that many divers were complaining about its performance "at depth". Their major concern was its lifting capacity.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#3: That's why Yuri bought that "tech BCD" and that's why it failed. And as I said before As you know Scubapro doesn't make this BCD anymore. Tech diving gear should consist of a backplate with harness and a wing, making a BCD for "tech diving" was not a very good idea.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
I didn't say it was a tech harness, I said it "wasn't a rec bc" -- closer to tech.
The SeaHawk cells came in 3 sizes up to 72lbs.
But it's irrelevant. anyway. He didn't have it setup for tech - no doubles, no travel mix, no deco.
So whether his bc was rec or tech didn't matter -- he was setup for rec, and doing a dive that was tech.
CarMoves 2 years ago
CarMoves: ps. the lifting capacity of the so "called wing" o the Sea Hawk was claimed to be 32 lbs. In fact it was just about 28lbs, whilst a tech dive wing should be not less than 40-60lbs.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#39: I'l tell you more: Yuri did a few dives on Nitrox 32 down to 60 m deep "to learn O2 poisoning effect".And he described al he felt in the article. Don't ask me "why he did it". I don't why some people do rather silly things. I think he was young, naive, passionate about deep diving/filming, very stubborn, he survived a few deep dives so he assumed he was "safe".
overseasmedia 2 years ago
If he said that he went to almost 200ft on Nitrox32, I'd say he was a liar, even at pp02 1.6 he'd be way too deep, and would have toxed.
If he was this wreckless then it was just a matter of time before he checked out.
CarMoves 2 years ago
CarMoves: That's what they were saying when we contacted them, the guy in Moscow who used to know Yuri when he was asked to give us an interview about Yuri exclaimed: "is he still alive?!"
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves:#2 So if you go for sky diving using umbrella instead of a parachute and somehow end up dead, could you call it "equipment malfunction"? Certainly not. It would be your fault to use the wrong gear in the wrong place for a wrong purpose.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Using an unbrella to skydive is a silly analogy, because you would never use an umbrella to skydive, ever.
Yuri's BC was for "recreational" use, and he meant to go on a recreational dive.
Due to his BC malfunction, he dropped farther than a recreational depth -- a malfunction.
Give me the timestamp in the orginal video where he drops his weights? This would only help him under 100ft -- at 300ft, dropping weight would be useless as his wetsuit and body wouldn't provide enough left.
CarMoves 2 years ago
CarMoves: I am glad we already agreed on one isue: using an umbrella for a sky dive is silly. Yuri didn't go for a recreational dive, he went there to film the Arch" (55-60 m deep) You should really talk with Yuri's father and get more information about his dive from a reliable source.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#3: Yuri did a few deep dives in his BCD one tank/air before his accident in Blue Hole and he wrote an article about his 90 m dive in Russian magazine Voyage in 1999. He was fascinated with deep diving, but he had very little knowledge about it nor he had formal technical dive training. Dropping the weights was something very "normal" for him. That was what every rec. diver would do if they went too deep and discovered their BC failed to "lift them up".
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Do u have the article that Yuri wrote and if possible translate it into English? I am very interested.
Thanks :D
theunraveler 1 year ago
theunraveler: I am not sure I have this article, I need to check it out. That was Yuri's father who brought me the magazine in 2003, he said that Yuri published some "scary article" and he wanted me to read it. The article was called "In Deep".Yuri describes his feelings associated with his deep diving experience( Russian "Voyage" magazine, 1999)
overseasmedia 1 year ago
If you do, please share it...thanks!!
theunraveler 1 year ago
CarMoves#4: So that's what he did: dropped his weights, but the problem was that he was tangled in the light s cords of his camera that he wrapped around his body. So it takes him a long time to get rid of he extra weight.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#5: Yuri's dive gear configuration for a dive was ridiculously naive. He had a camera with housing + 2 canister lights attached to it, the ;lights had yellow cords (you can see them in the video) which were literally "wrapped" around his body and that trapped his weight pockets. Well, he found it out at the bottom, and tried to disentangle himself, but that was too late.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#7: because the housing for the camera he used was rated down to 70 m. The camera "malfunctioned". and BTW he dropped his weights and you can clearly see it and hear it.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves #8: Yuri had a "habit" to literally sit down at the bottom (he describes it in his article) during his deep dives. When he realized he can't "lift himself up" he sat at the bottom (you can also see it in the video) trying to solve the problem. And that could have led that after inflating the BC he pulled his bottom dump valve whle sitting on it and added to the problem dumping more air from his BCD.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#35: You say: "Who said he died "on the tape"? The "tag". The title of the movie you're talking about. And the guys (divers) who are making their comments watching the tape in the film.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#36: You say: "You don't need to watch the tape 1000 times -- ten will do, and the accident is obvious.". I reply: Well, I am very glad for you. But you obviously didn't understand what's going on on this tape. Like you didn't understand that "my reenacted tape" has 3 trimix divers behind it" until I told you. So I hesitate to believe you can "understand what's going on". How the hell you cae to the idea Yuri "planned a recreational dive"??!
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#37:Does Yuri say in his video before his dive: "I plan a recreatinal dive, guys, and if by any chance, I end up at 100 m dead, please know I didn't mean it??" No, he doesn't say a word. I asume you don't speak Russian nor you ever read Yuri's articles, and the diveshe practices (90 meters was the deepest ad he said he was palnning 100 m dive on one tank) nor you spoke to the people who knew Yuri and his "plans".
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#38: Well, in the beginning I also thought Yuri planned a recreational dive. I was very surprised to find out he didn't and I was shocked when I read his article about deep diving. I'm sorry it has never been translated into English or made public. It would make a lot of sense to people like you who are interested in Yuri's accident.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
so it wasn't "caught on tape" then
MickeyLove01 2 years ago
MickeyLove01: The real "caught on tape" video you can watch at scubazmei.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
@overseasmedia Then this clip should be shown as not being the clip.
MickeyLove01 2 years ago
MickeyLove01: That's EXACTLY what is said in my documentary: "the video footage is reenacted"
overseasmedia 2 years ago
MickeyLove01: Sir, you are an idiot. Please do not disturb me with your stupid and ignorant crap anymore. Have a great day. Elena
overseasmedia 2 years ago
This is a the worst documentary ever.
The have all these scary "mystery of the deep", bullshit.
Then the narrator from 3:50 on describes nothing of what the tape shows. He wasn't happily heading to the bottom, he was in panic mode.
It doesn't help that the last 2 mins aren't even Yuri's real tape -- why not show that?
CarMoves 2 years ago
CarMoves: The WHOLE "death tape" is REENACTED video footage, you should watch the documentary before you jumpt into any conclusions, "MoveYourCar". Who told you that Yuri was "in panic"?! Did you watch his tape? How many times did you watch it?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
This video is part of the documentary -- what are you watching?
And the re-enacted video is more dramtic than the actual video , leading people to the wrong conclusion about the dive.
To narrate that he was happily heading to the bottom, is a joke.
Did YOU see the actual video? I think dropping 300ft, on a single tank, with no support, no technical training, and pumping a bc in vain, could only be conidered a "panic".
CarMoves 2 years ago
CarMoves: Yes, it is. And my reenactment is NOT "more dramatic" than the actual footage, in fact it's much "less dramatic". This reenctment is based upon a meticulous study of Yuri's original tape in high res.This tape is still with me and you can watch it. I am the only one person who always provides the most accurate comments in regards of his video,
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Knowing you're the person that made the film is a bonus.
* It's filled with all this "magic" talk about the Blue Hole, which is irrelevant to the place. It's no mystery -- untrained divers dive and die -- no voodoo
* Are you even a diver? To say an inexperienced diver, alone, dropped 300ft on a single tank was "happily" diving, is a joke.
* I watched Yuri's tape a couple of dozen times, and your re-enactment was way more dramatic.
Hiding behind the word "documentary" doesn't make it true.
CarMoves 2 years ago
CarMoves#9: He is obviously confused but narced heavily to realize where the problem is coming from. But you can aso see and hear the air being dumped. That confused me a lot, I though why the hell he was doing that, I found and bought that Sea Hawk BCD in Texas USA (they stopped producing it already by 2004) and we did a few dives to understand what might have happened. So that was one of the possibilities.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#10:His dump valve tangled in the corals, Yuri slided down the bottom pulled the vlave and dumped the air. But that was not a very important discovery. The most important thing was the "inflator/regulator" of "Sea Hawk". That was really very interesting and I don't think anybody has ever guessed to have a look at the specific dive gear Yuri used.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#11: If you LISTEN to the sound of the video attentively without assumption that Yuri's in "panic" , he is "drowning" and "choking and making weird noises, but trying just to figure out "how many times Yuri is inflating his BCD"? You will be surprised to find out that he actually is not inflating it much at all (and he had to do it to keep buoyant, right? ) so why he is not doing it?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#3: Secondly, Yuri had no clue about deep diving and had very little knowldege of decompression, if somehow he managed to make it back to the surface, he would either run out of air and die (drown) or he would die of the DCS (decompression sickness) would that have made any difference?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves #4: In the fim I am talking about what I see, watching the tape, and I clearly see that he is NOT in panic, his equipment does not malfuction and he does NOT die in the end of the tape. So... the original tape is NOT "the death caught on tape" but a sheer speculation of people who unfortunately doesn't have an acces to al the information regarding Yuri's dive.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Nonsense -- I want YOU to throw 1 tank on your back, and drop to 300ft , and film the whole thing.
And then tell me again Yuri "planned" to do that dive profile, as your documentary said.
It's silly.
CarMoves 2 years ago
CarMoves#2: so next time when you start such "arguing" with film-makers please take you time to do your "homework" at least you are aware of who you are talking with and what exactly about. OK? Now I have to go, I am leaving to Singapore in two hours. And I will be out of contact for 2 weeks. Take care, Elena Konstantinou
overseasmedia 2 years ago
scary, hail mary no tale fairy, all real fairy extra ordinary!!
theolide07 2 years ago
these things are so weird when they happen, things that no1 have an exact answer to.. its scary
IAmDeathknight 2 years ago
His jacket had no mailfunction and he cause of death was not nitrogen narcosis. AND: he did not panic.
TheRealJoeFertig 2 years ago
?????
taufan444 2 years ago
i dont get it. if he didnt have enough air why didnt he start swimming up?
danik077 2 years ago 2
He probably did die due to Nitrogren Narcosis. Which results in a state of drukeness and he probably did spit out his regulator. Most likely he didn't know what was happening as you are most likely to get this below 40 meters (using Air) and he was at 100+ M... :-(
robbie1969owsi 2 years ago
anyway poor man verey sad i wish don't happend to anyone
popdanmark2000 2 years ago
he had problem with his BCD and also he have extra wights plus camira and light all this it make big problem to diver in deep
popdanmark2000 2 years ago
he was dive with normal air 20% o2 and 79% n2 and 1% other gases after 42 meter start to get Nitorgen narcosis and after 66 meter Oxygen toxicity. plus panic all this in same time under 60 meter it is verey hard to go to serface without BCD
popdanmark2000 2 years ago
you right no one can use o2 under 6 meter Tark Omer if anyone want to do tec course tark he is very good inst. in dahab
TARK Hhe is my best friend and he have campany name tek trip in dahab
popdanmark2000 2 years ago
Stupid. Ask anyone who SCUBA dives.
gitmeout 2 years ago
Murder!
BryanToomey 2 years ago
what i want to know is HOW did you spell the guy's name wrong when it's IN the fucking video!!!
Judgeraye1 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
who cares for a russian bitch?!!!
fedornavid 2 years ago
fedornavid (: did you spell it worng??
overseasmedia 2 years ago
No't shark attack! Very, very mystery death. Only he may be know that being.
Michelle95640 2 years ago
Michelle95640: The one who wants to know - will know for sure.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
it wasnt a shard attack just many failures of diving regulations and equitment.
Ronhend 2 years ago
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Michelle95640 2 years ago
no really..
Ronhend 2 years ago
ALIENS!!!!!!! nahhh maybey he hade a heart attack but a small 1 wich made himlike dissey and so on
PastBlackJack 2 years ago
Hey, im currently getting my certification for regular diving (beginner). But since I know your an experienced diver is there any distinct diferences you can tell between nitrox and just regular tanks.
Ronhend 2 years ago
Oh ok so his tank it wasn't made up of pure oxygen? If not what else was he using?
Ronhend 2 years ago
Ronhend: He used pure air.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Hey, Ive commented on this vid alot a while back. I comprehend what happened. 1st mistake diving regulations prohibit 30m on one tank of air. He happen to go 3x that limit. Also he was probably breahting pure oxygen the rest of what happened is a mystery. Ps I recently did some diving in water to see if it was for me and I love it. I'm probably going to starting diving. :)
Ronhend 2 years ago
There is also many things such as no diving budy, and panic, Plus the big thing no boyonce which caused him to sink uncontrably.
Ronhend 2 years ago
Ronhend: You are right, there were too many mistakes for one dive.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Ronhend:No, he didn't breathe "pure O2", Yuri had one tank with air.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Quite clearly you don't know what you are talking about. He wasn't breathing 'pure oxygen' and it's not a mystery at all. He dove too deep, was not using the correct equipment and fell victim to a combination of Nitorgen narcosis and Oxygen toxicity. Mostly what killed him was stupidity.
porticoman 2 years ago
I know he was Breathing Oxygen+02 obiviously and yes he died of stupidity thats obvious.
Ronhend 2 years ago
Ronhend : NO you DON'T KNOW that. You can't breath "O2" underwater being deeper than 6 meters. There is no chance Yuti planned "pure O2 dive" , no one dives with O2, that's a decompression gas.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
@ronhend, You can't breath Pure Oxygen below 20ft.
He was breathing Air (21% Oxygen)
CarMoves 2 years ago
CarMoves: Exactly. More over he was diving in a recreation scuba gear (Sea Hawk BCD, one tank with air) That's why I don't say that was "equipment malfunction" since this sort of equipment is not designed for deep dives.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
CarMoves#6: That's why it's not your fault that your judgement is wrong. You just do not have an access to this information. nd I tell you the truth, Yuri is still alive on the "tape that "caught his death" and it seems he is not yet ready to die. I repeat: on the tape, of course he died later, but the truth is by the time of his death the camera stopped filming.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
not clear at all.....
scubazmei what?
binatangmakasalanan 2 years ago
it says it caught on tape. then the video says reenactment......... come on.
binatangmakasalanan 2 years ago
binatangmakasalanan: ypu can watch the "video caught on tape" at scubazmei In my film I only used reenacted shots.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
where can I find this documentary
Stumpy109 2 years ago
So I think this all really comes dow the the aruguement over what makes you passs out at 58m. I dotn see anything under normal circustances that will do that. PPo2 isn't high enough. Narcosis never does. While it could lead to a mistake that causes drowning that isn't narcosis, that's diver error. Overexertion or reg malfunction isn't a normal circumstance and neither is a stroke or heart attack. So your argument was narcosis will make you pass out at 58m. That's what you were saying ya?
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9: Exactly, they do it "together" both narcosis and PPO2 and other factors, so it's very difficult to separate one from another. In 2002 I also felt like "passing out diving" in Blue Hole, later I didn't felt like passing out, but I prefer to dive the Blue Hole on trimix. Yes, narcosis can make you pass put at 58 m, that was what I said.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9 :#3 As a result they go deep, experience inevitable problems related to N2 nircosis and high ppO2 , they panic, "pass out", black out , convulse and die. Sadly I saw many divers who "pushed their limits" without understanding what those limits were all about. Y. Lipsky is a very good example.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9 #10 When CNS results in convultions is also rather a hypothetis then a thery. When YUri's body was found at 111 m deep, it showed no obvious signs of convulsions. Yuri was lying there at the bottom on his stomach with his face down. That conclusion was that he was rather effected by nitrogen -oxigen narcosis, he literally FELL ASLEEP.
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Here is you telling me CNS and convulsions are jsut theory (ie arent proven)
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9 :#3 We have already finished our discussion and we disagreed about one thing: you said that was NOT possible to "pass out" at 58m," due to N2 narcosis and I said that was possible to pass out at shallower depth than 58m, correct?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9:#5 I think that it doesn't matter how would you call the "effect" of mixing alchoholic drinks, but I call it "being drunk". And I describe the effect of deep air diving as "being narced". To make it easier for people to understand me.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9 :#7 Imagine yourself watching National geographic where they talk let's say about "time machine" using the scientific language. If you fail to understand them, it doesn't mean that you are stupid, it means that they are stupid, because they chose very narrow audience who at least should have PHDs in physics to understand what's this film is all about.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Deepest open circuit scuba dive was accomplished by Pascal Bernabé (Ralf Tech/WR1 Team) on July 5, 2005 descended to 1,083 feet (330 m). The dive took place near Propriano, Corsica.
Thought we blacked out at 100m?
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9: I met with Pascal B. and interviewed him in 2005 in Cannes. That's why I can tell you what I think. I think he never did 330 m dive. Full stop.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Pascal Bernabé is a French SCUBA diver who lays claim to the world record for depth on a deep dive on self-contained breathing apparatus, at 330 meters (1,083 ft), There are pictures up on the ralf tec website...again...you misinforming people...
You must be right though....
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9 : yes, I know about this pictures of Pascal. They have nothing to do with the claimed record since they don't prove anything.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9, there is big difference between laying a claim and proving it to a body like Guinness World Records. One can attend University but one must pass the exams before the Certificate can be issued
nuno32181 2 years ago
I understand the difference....the guiness book of records no longer validates this type of record as the risk is too high and I'm guessing the bad press that would accomapny a fatality in unwanted. Pascals dive isn't disputed, its even backed by a multi million dollar tech company and displayed on their website. So wait...is overseasmedia now claiming to be the deepest human on earth? Assuming Elena is a woman she would be well over 100m past the current record. (is this nuno gomez typing?)
kwebber9 2 years ago
It is Nuno Gomes here. Let us make it simple. I can claim that I have run the 100 m sprint in 8 seconds, would you belive me? any one can make a claim, with a
WORLD RECORD one needs proof and independent verification (not your sponsor). I have far bigger companies sponsoring me, have a look at Bauer Compressors Germany or Poseidon Sweden to name a few (I do not even feature in their websites). By the way the dives were made in 2005, GUINNESS has only just stopped recognising these deep dives!!
nuno32181 2 years ago
In all honestly I will never argue ANYTHING involving technical diving with someone as yourself. I would consider you the record holder as yes it was verified. In your opinion do you think Pascal reached that depth? You are far more informed that I am in this than I am so I will take what you say as fact. I am almost honored that you would chime in on this discussion...maybe you can put an end to it...Does Nitrogen narcosis directly cause loss of conciousness?
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9: I think Pascal didn't reach the depth, since his VR3 computer was still working fine, and the depth it showed was 263 m?? (Nuno, do you remember the number?) If Pascal dove below 300m there is no chance his VR3 would work . Next, did you pay attention to the "tag" on Pascal's photo? Have a close look at it...
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9: By the way have you heard about Mark Ellyatt's "world record dive"? That was claimed after the record dive of John Bennett?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9: about Pascal and his "record dive". It's very difficult to put an end to something like that, when people do not recognize an obvious fact that any claimed record needs a proof. Pascal can't proof his record. He doesn't have anything to validate it, no rope, no tags, no video, no computer. So it's up to you to decide if he is a record holder or not.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
I can only go with what I can access online. I cant argue to the validity of Pascals dive. You both seem more knowlegable when it comes to his dive so I can't argue that. If there is no proof then there is no proof. Nuno...you say what you think and I'll take that for true. Never said I was informed on his dive. Hence not commenting on it...was more usign it as an example....should have used Nuno's...he didnt pass out...all i was saying...
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9:#9 Incorrect. Vasillica or any other person watching this video may not be technical divers, they may be recreational, inexperienced divers or non-divers, and it doesn't make them "stupid" if they do not know about combined effects or N2 narcosis and O2 toxicity. I am not trying to teach people tech diving, I am making films.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Again she is a professional divemaster who people entrust their lives to.
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9: I HOPE people who entrust their lives to her do not entrust her to take them deep on a supply of one tank with air. PADI dive masters and Instructors are not that aware of PP theories. A beginner in tech diving knows much more than they do.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9: Nuno doesn't dive to 100 m on a supply of one one tank with air. I don't think Pascal does this sort of dives too. For sure Pascal is a DEEP experienced diver that's why I think that was unfair to compare either Nuno, John Bennett, Jim Bowden or Pascal with such a diver as Yuri.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Never compared any of those to Yuri. I dotn think I compared anyone to Yuri. Sorry if you misread that. I would be upset if someone were to compare one of my friends to Yuri.
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9 : That was not the question of "comparing" my personal friends to Yuri, but the question of comparing an experienced technical deep diver to a PADI instructor whose experience and knowledge is limited by 40 m. You should understand one thing, you are being trained to become a tech instructor, Yuri was not trained even as Adv. nitrox and deco procedures diver.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Overseasmedia, and who cares about Pascal and his false record dive what pascal has to do with lipski's video??
scubazmei 2 years ago
kwebber9, What I think is not important, the question is what proof is there? The 320m tag was not recovered by Pascal, his sponsor claimed that the rope stretched an extra 10 m (so we arrive at 330m). The only problem is that his VR3 read 266m and it was not damaged after the dive. Basically he can prove 266m. My dive was to 318.25 metres (no rope stretch). My rope stretch only 3.56m (determined at the University). However GUINNESS does not accept any rope stretch. So figure it out for yourself
nuno32181 2 years ago
Now nitrogen narcosis, yes it doe cause divers to loose consciousness, I have seen it with my own two eyes at 30m, 50m and at 90m (I had to rescue the divers)
nuno32181 2 years ago
Well then I stand corrected. Guess I'll just have to wait and see how long it takes me to see someone pass out. Physiologically I didnt think It was possible. At least that is what I have been taught and read. Stress will cause people to pass out I understand that. I'm not arguing here as I stated I would not argue with you Nuno.
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9: You were "taught" a theory, and that's good that you learned it well. But when you have more practice you will experience a lot of things you have never been taught, sometimes it'll even contradicting the theory you were taught.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
fair enough. OWSI instructors are taught and SHOULD understand pp02 and how it affects the body. Sadly a great number do not. I like to think I am well imformed and try to keep fluent in the theory and practice of diving physics. I have yet to see anyone pass out from narcosis but will have to keep an eye out for it. I still think the actualy effect of nitrogen on the nervous system doesn't cause the blackout but agree that the stress from it can. That a sound interpretation?
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9: #1Your right, of course they were taught the theory of ppO2, but their choice is limited y diving either on a supply of one tank with air or (in best case scenario) EAN 32. OWSI do not learn advanced nitrox or deco procedures, they don't dive mixed gases, nor they dive with deco gases, thus they have a very little understanding of PP.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9:#2 We both understand that in order to dive safe we need to reduce the amount of O2 and N2 in the gas we breath and we know what these diver call "N2 narcosis" is actually the combined effect of both O2 and N2, ppO2 is critical but these divers don't know what this difference between 1,4 and 1,6 or 2,00ppO2 is all about.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
nuno32181: Nuno, do you remember what was depth Pascal's VR3 showed? I mean when it still "worked" after his legendary 330 m dive?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9: Nuno Gomes set his record dive in May 2005. That was validated by the guiness book of records. Pascal claimed he dove 330 m in June 2005, one month later, right? So what was the reason Guiness Book didn't validate his record?? Because it was set "1 month later"? Isn't that rediculous?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9: ps By the way how could you compare Pascal Bernabe with anyone naive and inexperienced?! Like Yuri Lipsky? That's not fair. The guys I am talking with about "passing out" are far away from being "the deepest dudes on Earth".
overseasmedia 2 years ago
I never compared him to Yuri....i was just showing you the human body goes well past 100m....thats all...
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9: I agree that may be a human body of such divers as Jim Bowden, John Bennett, Nuno Gomes, and surely Pascal Bernabe go well past 100 m. But there are certainly people who...uhm.. can't do what these guys were doing. I hope at least you can agree with me on that.. BTW have you ever been below 100 m?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Just shy of, will be this year again depending on schedules and what not. I tell you what, I wont be passing out. Assusming you have been and havent passed out doesnt that back up my point?
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9 : I am very sorry, but from what I can see you are the one who is UNINFORMED, not me. So if yu want to learn something that you don't know, please listen attentively. No one is trying to "attack" Pascal as a respected deep diver. I know that he didn't dive below 300 m. Do you understand the difference between "knowing something" and
assuming"?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
And....after looking at the video here is what I think happened....attempted bounce dive.. over weighted to drop fast....came down quicker than he thought he would...got narc'd....either malfuntion in his inflator or was too narc'd to operate...paniced....tried to drop weights...got tangled in his gear...02 toxicity hit him and that was the end...overseasmedia....got any thoughts on why that's wrong?
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9: No that's not what I think "happened", I believe Iknow much more about Yuri's dive than anyone else Imet on youtube forums. E.g. Yuri's camera housing was rated to 70 m deep, and he loved his camera and had no intention to flood it going deeper 70 m. I think he experienced a problem on his way down 70 m that made him go deeper, than he "planned".
overseasmedia 2 years ago
well PADI certified instructor...will be looking to complete my DSAT tech instructors within 18 months peniding time/work schedules....that enough for you? okay...you are russian....I was wondering about the vocab and grammar...I can undertand some of the confusions then....having to argue in a second language is tough...i know....i speak 3 of them....
kwebber9 2 years ago
All I want divers to know is that there are many problems you can encounter at depth, ie narcosis, oxygen toxicity, breathing turbulence resulting in overexertion and so forth. All I ask is that unless you completely understand what is happening don't comment on it. You could misinform someone and cause them to endanger themselves. As an instructor our job is to keep divers safe, misinforming them does the opposite. Telling anyone narcosis will make you black out is misinformation.
kwebber9 2 years ago
he was comletely "passed out"!!! So JB pressed his inflatior buton and Adnrew shot back to the surface, Andrew missed hi all deep stops, gained his concsiousness back at 60 m approximately but that was too late, he couldn't stop he reached the surface and jump out of the water upto him knees (I hope Mark's support did not "pass out" when they saw Mark fying out of the water up to his knees... That was not a very Healthy idea, but Mark came back to normal and wend back u/w for recompression.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
kwebber9:Hmmm and what do you call "misinformation", what's up to you is "misinforming diver" and making them be unsafe in the water?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
It is obvious in the video that Yuri suffered form narcosis (everyone does even at 1m, its only deeper you can feel its effects) what is uncertain is whether he fell victim to CNS. At the depth he was at its very likely to have happened as he breached the widely accepted safe barrier of 1.6 PPo2. All I want divers to know is that there are many problems you can encounter at depth, ie narcosis, oxygen toxicity, breathing turbulence resulting in overexertion.
kwebber9 2 years ago
I only talking about what I know happened kwebber9 #6 in the past with very experienced deep airdivers and what can happened with anyone in the future if they continue to dive deep on air.Whould you probably like to steakwit these divers?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
People also need to know that CNS will result in convulsions and "black out" resulting in drowning but they also need to know it its in no way related to narcosis other than the fact they can occur at depth. For you to allude that narcosis and loss of conciousness are linked lead me to believe you don't truely understand what is happening at depth, those are two unrelated processes happening in your body.
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9 #7 OK,so you thik I din't understand correctly of what is happining at depth, all right, I agree, I don't undertand correctly what makes a diver to pass out (completely lose control) blackout, etc exprience discomfort during a 60m dive.And I hop we can sort it out together and finally find out what's true and what's false
overseasmedia 2 years ago
there is no such thing as oxygen narcosis...please stop saying that....
""So is oxygen narcosis fact or fiction? The scientific data available do NOT support the conclusion that oxygen is narcotic. They also do not and can not show that oxygen has no narcotic effect.
"
Fell asleep....yes that sounds right....how about lost conciousness due to hypoxia. cause sleeping sounds a little bit far fetched. was his reg in his mouth? Drowning is supposed to be like falling asleep tho...
kwebber9 2 years ago
kwebber9: There is such thing such an oxygen narcosis, that was denied in the past, but now it's a common knowledge that oxygen is narcotic as well as toxic. Try a google serach and you will find all necessary information there.
overseasmedia 2 years ago