And now we know that both parties are owned by Goldman and Sachs, yet so many people to this day are refusing to accept the truth. Once Obama is replaced he will begin his job at Goldman and Sachs and what will he be doing? The same thing that he did in the White House, making money for Goldman and Sachs. Wake up America, it's already 50 years too late.
As long as Republicans don't take back the White House, then I'm content. I'm not happy with either of the parties, but the moment the GOP take control of the presidency is when our country will have done a 180 degree spin, we can't afford to let that happen.
You want change? Vote for any third party candidates running against these corporate assholes running this country under the ground.
There are plenty of "unelectable" candidates who are not entrenched and taken by the filthy stinking rich. Although Ron Paul ran as a Republican he was really a Libertarian and he has made the most sense so far of anyone.
Ralph Nader is another example of someone not bought and paid for. America it's time to clean house and vote for these kinds of people.
I'm supporting Stewart Alexander as the presidential nominee for the 2012 election.
This is why: He felt that the billions of tax dollars spent on redevelopment were wasted on helping wealthy contractors and corporations earn more profits at the expense of the residents whom he felt were in need of social programs and employment.
Furthermore, his campaign dealt with the issues of crime prevention and the aforementioned social programs. Thumbs up if you agree with and support him.
Barack Obama, Rahm Emanuel, Timmy Geithner, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Eric Cantor, Kevin McCarthy, Jon Kyl and Mike Pence = Corporatist actors posing as politicians.
We have to be the stupidest people in the world. These politicians admit they are all baught and paid for and yet we keep argueing over which party is more loyal to main street. It seems that where this country is going is no mystery anymore. Down nonstop and i don't even care anymore cause we totally deserve it by letting our corrupt leadership get away with it. As soon as they decided to bail out these
bastards we should have all marched on DC with pitchforks. God help the innocent children!
Republicans are OWNED. Democrats still have members that actually represent the people.
We HAD to bail out these criminals because they were too big, if our gov could break these companies up before they are too big to fail it wouldn't have been an issue. The reason they got too big is because of Republican deregulation.
Both of them are Keyenesians, we need more laissez-faire. What incentivizes more lobbyists? A system where the government gives out subsidies and actively tries to run the market or one where the government gets out of the way and businesses have to go to you? The answer is clear, laissez-faire.
@SkankinRep - Except that without government intervention you get slavery, child labor, indentured servitude, lead dumped in drinking water, food sold en masse containing toxins or blatant carcinogens... you get run away monopolies. The system also fails without Fed intervention. So deregulation as a panacea is as moronic as statism as a panacea. The government & our economic system will never be perfect. Get over it.
Here's an analogy: Cars kill people - Therefore do away with all cars?
@CO2Junkie Slavery, child labor, etc. are all the same type of action: forcible cohesion. They are all products of forcing individuals to cooperate. Force is justified only in one sense: to defend individual rights. The concept of socialism is, by nature, demeaning to every individual and (according to the Founders) unconstitutional. Though they labelled the practice levelling. Madison writes in the Fed papers about the dangers of democracy usurping individual and property writes vs a Republic.
@SkankinRep - It seems u tried to be deep & profound & instead achieved chauvinistic & non sequitur. "They r all products of forcing individuals to cooperate."
Both side of the equation force cooperation. Kingdoms force cooperation. Democracies force cooperation. All government is by force. All capitalism & the property rights & territories it depends on r by force.
The free market requires uninterrupted interstate commerce & creative freedom et al. Such freedoms exist by forced cohesion.
@CO2Junkie You've obviously never read Cicero, John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, or Ayn Rand. I'll agree government is by forced-cohesion, but any practice by forced-cohesion is not, by nature, capitalism. Capitalism is a system of free choice and recognition of rights. Government does exist to protect these rights but as Thomas Paine wrote there is a separation of government and society. While government protects capitalism (and may arguably be a pre-requisite) it is separate and not the same thing
@SkankinRep - "While government protects capitalism (and may arguably be a pre-requisite)..."
Now u r keeping up. And u r now contrary to your earlier argument that any forced cohesion by government is unneccessary & unconstitutional. As I pointed out - many of the pros of society (including capitalism) are also due to forced cohesion.
It's great u r so well read but it seems u r only making connections that u want to make, instead of making all the connections that THERE ARE.
@CO2Junkie Refer to my other post. Also you're arguing that the government ought to guide society to what is best. The argument descends from Hegel, not a road you want to go down. There was no inconsistancy in what I say or have said, what is inconsistant is your interpretation of the context. The constitution creates a limited government in more than three branches because ultimately all three would still expand Fed power. England had a 3-branches system. Our founders sought more than that.
@SkankinRep - You've done a complete about-face but that's fine.
Let me set u straight on your own misinterpretation - *I BELIEVE* Americans should do what is best for themselves & use their representative government to that affect (while considering minority rights & efficiency issues). Federal Government should be a tool of the people, not of an oligarchy.
Where else would this seemingly magical guidance you write of come from? Elites? Fine - as long as they are elected & term limited.
@CO2Junkie No about-face here. My point here has always been that Government and Society are separate and that government is a necessary evil. That's consistant with laissez-faire which Ayn Rand wrote required a government to protect base rights. Here's an example to help explain: War is bad, but sometimes necessary to defend peace. This seems like a reversal but is more consistant and logical than someone who refuses to fight at all as that belief leads to the encouragement of tyranny.
@CO2Junkie Compare the depression of FDR to the depression of Coolidge. Look at this current recession and where it started: the housing market. It hit at the same time that the government was admitting that their quasi-governmental corp.s (freddie and fannie) were over $5 tril in liabilities. The Fed Reserve's current existence removes the Congressional check on budgetting (observe government bonds returns compared to interest on their loans where banks make money by laundering for the govt)
@SkankinRep - "The concept of socialism is, by nature, demeaning to every individual." Says you. Founding father quote mine & FAIL.
Jefferson talked up freeing slaves & suffered for it politically. Part of Thomas Paine's lack of success in politics was his unwavering commitment to end slavery. Jefferson acknowledge that for democracy to survive there needed to be some degree of economic equity or else democracy would decay into oligarchy.
"Some degree of economic equity" is not socialism.
@CO2Junkie Capitalism and law are not the same; in fact they are quite different. It may be argued that the failure of early America was not installing a full-fledged capitalist system (ie: Not enabling every man their inherent and natural rights devoid of forced-cohesion to the greatest extent possible). However, the rights they declared were capitalist when implemented. As you point out, there is an inconsistancy; this points to the need of extending rights and not employing full slavery.
@SkankinRep - That's like saying how people behave in traffic & traffic law are not the same thing. Of course they are not, but yet one influences the other. They are dependent upon each other.
Capitalism or specifically the 'free market' is only possible in an organized society with property rights, copyright laws, trademark laws, trade laws, and some economic equity... among other things. All of that cooperation is in large part due to forced cohesion instituted by government.
@CO2Junkie I agree, freedom and law are interdependent; but as Thomas Paine wrote, they are opposite in nature. "Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one; [...]" Capitalism is the recognition that government serves to protect individual rights beyond simply living. It is the affirmation of an individual's right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. That's why slavery is inconsistant with it.
@SkankinRep - Well now you're getting into epistemology of government. Which is a different issue than what elicited my response.
Unfortunately & despite what any philosopher or 'founding father' may have said 200 to 2,000 years ago... Government will always need to step on one person's freedom to protect another's freedom. C'est la vie. I prefer to err on the side with the larger number of people. Thus for me, the freedom of the masses trump the needs of the would-be-oligarchs.
@CO2Junkie Capitalism and good government are one and the same: the affirmation of individual rights. At such time as the government usurps rights it has begun to corrupt or is null and void (Cicero/Locke/etc.). There is a recognizable difference betwen a necessary evil and class warfare or controlled society. Marx, President Wilson and James Madison all agreed on one thing: Democracy will become socialism. That's why Madison chose a Republic. A government exists of and for all, not groups.
Runing the company into the ground! That has happened to so many companies in so many ways.
Shareholders of cmkx, cmkm diamonds inc went through the same thing. Now we have filled a lawsuit against Chairs and Commissioners of SEC for their participation in our case.
Its a bivens action, which alows the lawsuit against government employees personaly.
It's time to start all over. The party's are only a way to choose sides and divide the nation. Judge a politician by the content of their character and not the party he or she is affiliated with.
Man, am I glad that I live where I live! In the province of Quebec in Canada (only the province btw, not the whole country as far as I know), corporations are banned from giving any political donations, and personal donations have a cap of $3,000 per year. Something like that in the US could really help the public. But, of course, no one in Congress would dare push for something like that, and it's a miracle that it got through ANYWHERE! Hope that they do push for it though...hope they do...
Much like Cenk, I'm starting to dislike that word "Bi-Partisan" which is often used by Democrats. Just this Sunday on November 7 a Democrat on Meet the Press started using using the word "Bi-Partisan" as a excuse to pass a jobs bill. A "job-bill" please give me break!
geez, i'm a liberal, and i fought for my country, raised my kids, give to charities, vote, and i was even a scout leader. now i find out that i hate america. gosh i wish i would have known that years ago. the only ones who love america are the rich and the mindless sheep that believe all the bullshit thrown at them by big money and want to keep them mind less sheep!
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Young Turks is 110 percent liberal and he hates America just like all liberal idiot loons. Notice how he doesn't mention Libs and Dems as much? He is an idiot loon
corrupt! corrupt! corrupt! and the stupid thing is people keep voting hoping for change. THEY ARE ALL CORRUPT! we should line em up like they did in Romania and shoot them
no one gives these candidates any money...none.zippo. the dems and rep both are sent out on campaign trails and get you the people to donate money and give it all to the big banks. They all are bank whores! America was sold yrs ago. HOW? Because banks bought the tv networks first. Now if you can figure out how to vote out the tv networks and big banks and secret scocietys...you'll win.
it's so fucking disgusting that that bankers' contributions should matter at all to any elections, whether county or national. fucking disgusting. its centuries late that we should declare illegal any and EVERY private contribution to any PUBLIC candidate. campaign finance reform is the greatest obstacle to american ideals
the founding fathers stated that if "the people" loose their intrest in goverment and dont regulate it, then it will become corrupt. because "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" all these scams that are going on, i dont blame the players, i blame the game, and the game is allowed to be what it is by who? the people! our public has become a sack of stupidity and idiocity. hollywood is more important than main street. so Hi5 to bankers on screwing our moronic society.
Usually on the comments for tyt it's nothing but left and right slamming each other, no matter the topic. It is so refreshing to see people waking up and realizing it doesn't matter if you have a R or D next to your name, all of them are owned by those with the money. Bravo. Now if only we can figure out a way to do something about it.
I thought the Tea Parties might work to stop them some but now the Corporations have taken them over so if you're still a Tea Party person you are crazy.
@DillonX : The GOP swiftly moved to take control of the Tea Party, and to subvert it with help from the major outlets. If there's one thing that makes the NWO crowd nervous, it's exposure and populism.
CENK...when will you get out of the fog and in to the light.most of your viewers know the whole thruth or can figure out when your leaving out the most important parts in your storys.
stop the half truhs and the propaganda we know when ur doing it.
i hate alex jones i dont like many things about him specially how religious he is.but when it comes to some truths and commoncense hes totally right. get down with the majority of your viewers and stop the half truths and you will dominate youtub
The bottom line is, "We, the people..." are represented by no one. It's disgusting. The only solution is to vote every politician out of office. That is the only power we have. Get rid of every one of them.
It king of depressing, isn't it? The only power given to the people are the right to vote for the elected leaders, but that power is nullified when you stop to think that the people don't vote, but rather select from big corporations sponsored - or paid for - candidates.
Yes, very depressing, to say the least. It's all about Bait and Swith, or BS for short. You have these candidates that make these campaign promises and as soon as they are in office, they do whatever they please. Bush ran on fiscal responsibility, small government, no nation builidng, etc. Obama runs on openess, change, transparency, troops out of the MidEast, etc. They both lie...bait and switch...BS. Voter every politician out of office. Then they will get the messsage.
The worst part of it all is that, for the overwhelming majority, the people only have a chance to vote their congressmen and congresswomen out of office after years of tricked, and when that happens, new frauds run for office and are elected in their place. It's a vicious cycle. Once you remove politicians who lied to their constituents, they are replaced by new ones - regardless of party; See Bush vs. Obama.
Gather around children I have a story.Along time before discovering fire there were two tribes.One a nomadic group that wandered,never settling down, growing crops, or building houses. Then one day they came across a happy,peaceful, hard working group living by a large rushing river. The nomads wanted it.They could not use force, so they begged to live there and this was the beginning of our two political parties the Democrats and Republicans.The Republicans are not the nomads.
It is still true at the time the goverment had a dem majority and dems backed it and voted for it! I'm not changing anything you can't wash your hands and say he was tricked into signing it and then say only obama's decisions held back a collapse. you can't have the glory when signing the blame. and if they are so dumb to be tricked, none of them should be in power, dem and rep
OH my word. A politician being honest!!! HOW RARE!!! Everyone knows that America is a capitalist country (that is a good thing) and that even this administration has been bought. Wall street, Unions, etc.............
It was the progressive politicians that headed Fannie and Freddie and allowed them to give out loans to people who did not qualify. Even allowed them to fraudulently fill out applications. And bundle those bad loans and sell them. Bottom line Fannie and Freddie should have been left to fail and the politician should be brought up on charges. And the Government should stay out of the banking/mortgage industry.
The US governmental system is a quasi-corporo-fascist institution designed to keep and prop up the stock market at the literal and virtual expense of 85% of its own population.
@TheVideocult Fuck off with your revisionist history. We remember what happened. Dems voted along with the bailout, but it was the idea of the Treasury Secretary and the rest of the Bush administration, and they tricked the Dems into thinking if it were not passed, no strings attached, the sky would fall. The Dems may or may not have been stupid to buy that, but they did it reluctantly, the Republicans did it eagerly. And now they try to say President Obama did it, even though it was 2008.
If the corps fund the 2 lame parties, and they also run the TV stations, then theres no way in hell the 3rd parties have a chance without publicity or money.
It doesn't have to be third parties. We can vote out all the career bought and paid for politicians. And try to elect people who promise to uphold the Constitution and clean up Washington. Reform the programs that don't work and are full of abuse, change regulation to allow true free market, No more corporate welfare, No fed aid to states that allows them to spend well above budgets and gives power to the federal Gov. It is time to buckle down and start being fiscally responsible.
You have to take into account the Supreme Court ruling on McConnell v. FEC. This magnifies the impact of Wall Street on American politics and the Conservative Republicans (who pushed for this decision) know it. They have no problem selling out the American public.
Both parties are owned by the the wealthy, corporate power, banks etc. This not-so-much-of-a mystery should have ended decades ago. The revolving door is between political office and private industry of which a narrow segment move back and forth between. The great majority of the public are little more than slaves to those narrow, wealthy interests. As long as this system exists so will our modern slavery. Expecting your masters to free you by voting for one of them or their owned is madness
hoping does nothing. thinking or talking does nothing. doing does something. americans are soft lazy people in a TV trance who want their potatoe chips and porn...beer, ect. We are doomed to a continued life of slavery, all our rights are an illusion and the world government is in place. the last remaining goal for the elites now is de-population since technology can almost support the rich people standards of living with the help of a few trainable over seas peoples to run the machines.
as rachel maddow said thursday night, this is "republicans throwing a big slow curve ball over the plate (to democrats). swing batter swing."
it's really simple. internally, liberals keep pressure on obama and conservative dems. rahm emanuel should have a target on his back.
externally, make republican obstructionists vote on some legislation, make them choose banks, wall street, insurance anti trust, global warming and health care. get their votes on record and run against this.
Are you people seriously just now coming to the realization that America is a fascist nation? Take your money out of the banks people,they have power because of YOUR money.
dishonest Cenk fails to advise you all brain dead progressive Kool Aid drinkers that big organized labor gives 100% of their monies to the depraved DEMS
also, trial lawyers of America basically OWN the DEMS, hence no Tort Reform in health care bill! Surprise, surprise
"Big organized labor" God, you people make me laugh. Oh yes, we have got to watch out for those all-powerful Unions, whose total annual donations to the DNC don't amount to sweet fuck all compared to how much the Banks, Pharma, and Defense industries pay out to BOTH parties. Get a clue for once in your life.
Turks aren't sand-niggers - us Arabs are. And yeah, this is coming from a proud Sandnigger intent on extending our control over the West, not by terrorism, but hard work and cunning skill.
In due time you will be sucking my balls, while I electricute the fuck out of Bin Laden's balls - if he is still alive. Otherwise I will target his equally evil massive extended family.
@GooseHuntCunt I'm pissed about how now people are saying that Arabs are white. I think they're only doing it so that Jesus is white again. I stand firm in my belief that Jesus was black.
They are probably also doing it as a type of cultural colonialism. Get Arabs thinking they are white and the same as Europeans, and they will eventually think the are Europeans,abandone their culture for a european one and will give the West unprecedented loyalty. That is quite important as now the West is fighting for influence in the ME, especially Iraq.
Though there are white, blond etc.. Arabs, they are usually only in the more northern nations - Syria, Iraq and Lebanon cont...
cont: However, you are correct the majority are significantly darker in skin colour to Northern Europeans - they are like Mediterranean people or darker. There is also some who are black, and Arabised Africans - Africans who speak the Arabic language.
To be honest, I doubt Jesus was white like how he is portrayed often, nor completely black. In reality I will put my bets on him being olive-skinned or brown. Take care man.
We are NEVER going to get anything done in Washington as long as the banks run the place and it doesn't look like that's going to change anytime soon... We're so fucked.
Wall Street just bet on the pony they knew would win: dems. They knew the public was sick of R's and decided to stay one step ahead by buttering up democrats. seems to have worked so far...
move your money to smaller local banks with fair rates, that way banks like bank of america wont be deemed "to big to fail" and require bails outs in a tax payers money cycle. then they can just fail and we'll let the fair banks manage our money.
Although Cenk is a typical liberal smartass, he is right.
And he has pointed out some imperfections of "The One".
But I'm afraid his cynical tone turns off most people which causes them to automatically into defense mode. People who should probably listen to his points the most.
But don't get excited. I still hate liberals. I hate republicans too, but I just hate liberals more than batshit crazy bible thumpers. The "god" people are too busy with imaginary friends.
Today, it means someone who has an aducaiton, thinks, and considers the long-term impacts of our policies, so tends to be in favor of protecting civil liberties and protective the environment. A very scary creature.
@sidiggy1 Ok thanks but now i'm even more confused. You only said good qualities, then why people like LiberalHuntingSeason hate liberals? I dont get it... Are they evil ppl and hate those good things?
Jews own the media and they push their liberal agenda daily telling people what to think and how to think. It's all part of the plan. Seriously, look up some quotes from Israel Cohen's book written in 1915.
I think the bible thumpers are just controlled by fear and are harmless. They sit on their asses hoping that their imagnary friend will "save us". Just like said imaginary friend has done in the past oh so many times before, right? hee hee
Oh come on man, I am Arab and not even I blame all Jews like that. Yes there is a disproportional number of Jews in media (so I've been told), but that doesn't at all necessitate that they are all bad.
These people represent their own corporate agenda, just as the Christians in the media, rather than that of Judaism. And it is not just Liberal media, but also conservative media, each moguel bashing the agenda that will take him to the top at our expense.
You turned off the tv in 2004? I think you turned off your brain in the 1800s. Elizabeth Duke is not Jewish. Maybe your theories would hold water if you used facts to back them up.
@LiberalHuntingSeason, shoudn't you be MORE concered with crazy bible thumpers, that are too busy with "god" and imaginary friends, that are using those beleifs to shape there policy's that also effect us?
@LiberalHuntingSeason, Your question regarding my mom and where I would leave her has nothing to do with my arguement. I would rather have a rational liberal or conserative that bases his policy's in logic and reailty rather then a bible thumper who use a 2000 year old book that has contradictions and different interpetations depending on who's reading it shaping his world view.
It's not really "buyer's remorse." In 2008 it was clear that it was Democrats year. With wholly incompetent governance for years and a financial crisis it was obviously Democrats year, regardless of whatever money wall street poured into the campaigns. So, it makes sense to contribute to a party you may not even like because you are attempting to, if you will, buy insurance against their future policies - hopefully weakening them. They never really liked democrats.
Money is the root of all of mankinds evils. Well that and religion. We need to get rid of both of them for mankind to move forward. Cenk is explaining it to you pretty plainly. But fails to get to the bottom of the issue.
Seems the web address I posted is being blocked by You Tube, as it won't allow me to post if the address is in the comment. You Tube sucks.
Young Turks. no doubt all Politicians are owned by Big Biz/Federal Reserve. but I find it funny you don't mention that Obama's biggest campaign donor was Goldman Sachs, you know the same Goldman that is frontrunning the market and the same Goldman that was made 100% whole through the AIG bailout. not to mention how many ex-Goldman employees are in the administration? lets not act like they ALL don't have dirty noses. well, carry on with your partisan nonsense..move along .nothing to see here.
chuckyfunk1 - dude, Cenk attacked Obama Admin weeks at a time about the Goldman Sachs payout, bailout, and campaign donations. he had a like a 11 minute rant about it. dude, Cenk is FAR from partisan ESPECIALLY when it comes to Financial Reform. Be honest man... damn, you're an idiot. Go to his page and type "bank", "AIG, or "Wallstreet" in search field and you'll have my proof, Chucky the Birther.
And now we know that both parties are owned by Goldman and Sachs, yet so many people to this day are refusing to accept the truth. Once Obama is replaced he will begin his job at Goldman and Sachs and what will he be doing? The same thing that he did in the White House, making money for Goldman and Sachs. Wake up America, it's already 50 years too late.
fywacia 1 month ago
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All politicans suck.
Charlie12241 4 months ago
And the Federal Reserve owns Wall Street.
MrBongo43 4 months ago
the blind leading the blind... The Young Turks were the perpetrators of the Armenian Genocide - research it.
muzapstar 9 months ago
the blind leading the blind...
muzapstar 9 months ago
As long as Republicans don't take back the White House, then I'm content. I'm not happy with either of the parties, but the moment the GOP take control of the presidency is when our country will have done a 180 degree spin, we can't afford to let that happen.
aviloud 1 year ago
You want change? Vote for any third party candidates running against these corporate assholes running this country under the ground.
There are plenty of "unelectable" candidates who are not entrenched and taken by the filthy stinking rich. Although Ron Paul ran as a Republican he was really a Libertarian and he has made the most sense so far of anyone.
Ralph Nader is another example of someone not bought and paid for. America it's time to clean house and vote for these kinds of people.
75630KaraokeStar 1 year ago
I'm supporting Stewart Alexander as the presidential nominee for the 2012 election.
This is why: He felt that the billions of tax dollars spent on redevelopment were wasted on helping wealthy contractors and corporations earn more profits at the expense of the residents whom he felt were in need of social programs and employment.
Furthermore, his campaign dealt with the issues of crime prevention and the aforementioned social programs. Thumbs up if you agree with and support him.
lukegreen37 1 year ago
Barack Obama, Rahm Emanuel, Timmy Geithner, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Eric Cantor, Kevin McCarthy, Jon Kyl and Mike Pence = Corporatist actors posing as politicians.
lukegreen37 1 year ago
We have to be the stupidest people in the world. These politicians admit they are all baught and paid for and yet we keep argueing over which party is more loyal to main street. It seems that where this country is going is no mystery anymore. Down nonstop and i don't even care anymore cause we totally deserve it by letting our corrupt leadership get away with it. As soon as they decided to bail out these
bastards we should have all marched on DC with pitchforks. God help the innocent children!
endtyrany 1 year ago
The only way they will ever serve the people is through fear and by then its allready too late!
endtyrany 1 year ago
All politicians are owned. So wake up. Sheep.
endtyrany 1 year ago
Republicans are OWNED. Democrats still have members that actually represent the people.
We HAD to bail out these criminals because they were too big, if our gov could break these companies up before they are too big to fail it wouldn't have been an issue. The reason they got too big is because of Republican deregulation.
MaudsPas 1 year ago
Hear I thought congress and the senate voted for the 1st bail out,, Now I find out that it was Bush. only bush., How dumb can I be.
darrellmellissa 1 year ago
@darrellmellissa
obama clinton mccain pelosi reid bush... all voted for the banker bailout! Both parties sold us out! You want change, vote out all incumbants!
AreYouConcerned 1 year ago
As if America isn't fascist enough, they're pulling out all of the stops now.
joe80dman 1 year ago
someone asked me yesterday if i was going to make a political donation this year, LOL, that was a good one, HAHAHAHAHAHA
isawanangel2 1 year ago
YOUNG TURKS WE WANT TO PETITION FOR STRICT DETAILED REFORM> CAN WE GET YOUR HELP CONSTRUCTING PETITION?
realAmerican1969 1 year ago
this is bs
vegasgoldbaron 1 year ago
Both of them are Keyenesians, we need more laissez-faire. What incentivizes more lobbyists? A system where the government gives out subsidies and actively tries to run the market or one where the government gets out of the way and businesses have to go to you? The answer is clear, laissez-faire.
SkankinRep 1 year ago
@SkankinRep - Except that without government intervention you get slavery, child labor, indentured servitude, lead dumped in drinking water, food sold en masse containing toxins or blatant carcinogens... you get run away monopolies. The system also fails without Fed intervention. So deregulation as a panacea is as moronic as statism as a panacea. The government & our economic system will never be perfect. Get over it.
Here's an analogy: Cars kill people - Therefore do away with all cars?
CO2Junkie 1 year ago
@CO2Junkie Slavery, child labor, etc. are all the same type of action: forcible cohesion. They are all products of forcing individuals to cooperate. Force is justified only in one sense: to defend individual rights. The concept of socialism is, by nature, demeaning to every individual and (according to the Founders) unconstitutional. Though they labelled the practice levelling. Madison writes in the Fed papers about the dangers of democracy usurping individual and property writes vs a Republic.
SkankinRep 1 year ago
@SkankinRep - It seems u tried to be deep & profound & instead achieved chauvinistic & non sequitur. "They r all products of forcing individuals to cooperate."
Both side of the equation force cooperation. Kingdoms force cooperation. Democracies force cooperation. All government is by force. All capitalism & the property rights & territories it depends on r by force.
The free market requires uninterrupted interstate commerce & creative freedom et al. Such freedoms exist by forced cohesion.
CO2Junkie 1 year ago
@CO2Junkie You've obviously never read Cicero, John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, or Ayn Rand. I'll agree government is by forced-cohesion, but any practice by forced-cohesion is not, by nature, capitalism. Capitalism is a system of free choice and recognition of rights. Government does exist to protect these rights but as Thomas Paine wrote there is a separation of government and society. While government protects capitalism (and may arguably be a pre-requisite) it is separate and not the same thing
SkankinRep 1 year ago
@SkankinRep - "While government protects capitalism (and may arguably be a pre-requisite)..."
Now u r keeping up. And u r now contrary to your earlier argument that any forced cohesion by government is unneccessary & unconstitutional. As I pointed out - many of the pros of society (including capitalism) are also due to forced cohesion.
It's great u r so well read but it seems u r only making connections that u want to make, instead of making all the connections that THERE ARE.
CO2Junkie 1 year ago
@CO2Junkie Refer to my other post. Also you're arguing that the government ought to guide society to what is best. The argument descends from Hegel, not a road you want to go down. There was no inconsistancy in what I say or have said, what is inconsistant is your interpretation of the context. The constitution creates a limited government in more than three branches because ultimately all three would still expand Fed power. England had a 3-branches system. Our founders sought more than that.
SkankinRep 1 year ago
@SkankinRep - You've done a complete about-face but that's fine.
Let me set u straight on your own misinterpretation - *I BELIEVE* Americans should do what is best for themselves & use their representative government to that affect (while considering minority rights & efficiency issues). Federal Government should be a tool of the people, not of an oligarchy.
Where else would this seemingly magical guidance you write of come from? Elites? Fine - as long as they are elected & term limited.
CO2Junkie 1 year ago
@CO2Junkie No about-face here. My point here has always been that Government and Society are separate and that government is a necessary evil. That's consistant with laissez-faire which Ayn Rand wrote required a government to protect base rights. Here's an example to help explain: War is bad, but sometimes necessary to defend peace. This seems like a reversal but is more consistant and logical than someone who refuses to fight at all as that belief leads to the encouragement of tyranny.
SkankinRep 1 year ago
@CO2Junkie Compare the depression of FDR to the depression of Coolidge. Look at this current recession and where it started: the housing market. It hit at the same time that the government was admitting that their quasi-governmental corp.s (freddie and fannie) were over $5 tril in liabilities. The Fed Reserve's current existence removes the Congressional check on budgetting (observe government bonds returns compared to interest on their loans where banks make money by laundering for the govt)
SkankinRep 1 year ago
@CO2Junkie So take it by force is you answer, spoken like a true facist...
MrRichardKranium 10 months ago
@MrRichardKranium - I love you XOXO
CO2Junkie 10 months ago
@CO2Junkie We know, that's why your wife and I are running away together. She wants a real man...
MrRichardKranium 10 months ago
@SkankinRep - "The concept of socialism is, by nature, demeaning to every individual." Says you. Founding father quote mine & FAIL.
Jefferson talked up freeing slaves & suffered for it politically. Part of Thomas Paine's lack of success in politics was his unwavering commitment to end slavery. Jefferson acknowledge that for democracy to survive there needed to be some degree of economic equity or else democracy would decay into oligarchy.
"Some degree of economic equity" is not socialism.
CO2Junkie 1 year ago
@CO2Junkie Capitalism and law are not the same; in fact they are quite different. It may be argued that the failure of early America was not installing a full-fledged capitalist system (ie: Not enabling every man their inherent and natural rights devoid of forced-cohesion to the greatest extent possible). However, the rights they declared were capitalist when implemented. As you point out, there is an inconsistancy; this points to the need of extending rights and not employing full slavery.
SkankinRep 1 year ago
@SkankinRep - That's like saying how people behave in traffic & traffic law are not the same thing. Of course they are not, but yet one influences the other. They are dependent upon each other.
Capitalism or specifically the 'free market' is only possible in an organized society with property rights, copyright laws, trademark laws, trade laws, and some economic equity... among other things. All of that cooperation is in large part due to forced cohesion instituted by government.
CO2Junkie 1 year ago
@CO2Junkie I agree, freedom and law are interdependent; but as Thomas Paine wrote, they are opposite in nature. "Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one; [...]" Capitalism is the recognition that government serves to protect individual rights beyond simply living. It is the affirmation of an individual's right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. That's why slavery is inconsistant with it.
SkankinRep 1 year ago
@SkankinRep - Well now you're getting into epistemology of government. Which is a different issue than what elicited my response.
Unfortunately & despite what any philosopher or 'founding father' may have said 200 to 2,000 years ago... Government will always need to step on one person's freedom to protect another's freedom. C'est la vie. I prefer to err on the side with the larger number of people. Thus for me, the freedom of the masses trump the needs of the would-be-oligarchs.
CO2Junkie 1 year ago
@CO2Junkie Capitalism and good government are one and the same: the affirmation of individual rights. At such time as the government usurps rights it has begun to corrupt or is null and void (Cicero/Locke/etc.). There is a recognizable difference betwen a necessary evil and class warfare or controlled society. Marx, President Wilson and James Madison all agreed on one thing: Democracy will become socialism. That's why Madison chose a Republic. A government exists of and for all, not groups.
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thislife2010 1 year ago
Runing the company into the ground! That has happened to so many companies in so many ways.
Shareholders of cmkx, cmkm diamonds inc went through the same thing. Now we have filled a lawsuit against Chairs and Commissioners of SEC for their participation in our case.
Its a bivens action, which alows the lawsuit against government employees personaly.
cmkx vs sec
thislife2010 1 year ago
It's time to start all over. The party's are only a way to choose sides and divide the nation. Judge a politician by the content of their character and not the party he or she is affiliated with.
TheArkansashunter 2 years ago
yeah, everyone who runs should run independant
leafkill9 2 years ago
Watch Fall Of The Republic guys, this will all make sense. Just Youtube it, Its full and in HQ.
Knowledge isn't given, Its in the pursuit of it in which we retain some.
dedecus 2 years ago
Man, am I glad that I live where I live! In the province of Quebec in Canada (only the province btw, not the whole country as far as I know), corporations are banned from giving any political donations, and personal donations have a cap of $3,000 per year. Something like that in the US could really help the public. But, of course, no one in Congress would dare push for something like that, and it's a miracle that it got through ANYWHERE! Hope that they do push for it though...hope they do...
SmartlyStupid 2 years ago 4
@SmartlyStupid
Another reason to love Canada.
tannersanta 1 year ago
Lobbyists almost always support incumbent politicians since they are the most likely to win.
soccermafia89 2 years ago
Much like Cenk, I'm starting to dislike that word "Bi-Partisan" which is often used by Democrats. Just this Sunday on November 7 a Democrat on Meet the Press started using using the word "Bi-Partisan" as a excuse to pass a jobs bill. A "job-bill" please give me break!
9sholmes 2 years ago
The reason why they gave more to Obama, was because they knew democrats would win after 8 years of Bush.
Luxmans 2 years ago 2
geez, i'm a liberal, and i fought for my country, raised my kids, give to charities, vote, and i was even a scout leader. now i find out that i hate america. gosh i wish i would have known that years ago. the only ones who love america are the rich and the mindless sheep that believe all the bullshit thrown at them by big money and want to keep them mind less sheep!
traintaz 2 years ago 4
mindless and SICK - don't forget sick and dying.
kipptumor 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Young Turks is 110 percent liberal and he hates America just like all liberal idiot loons. Notice how he doesn't mention Libs and Dems as much? He is an idiot loon
cam1126 2 years ago
Why does he hate America? And so hes' a liberal but he doesn't mention libs or dems?
Your ignorance and incoherent statement says a lot about you.
siasina 2 years ago
@siasina Yes, he calls himself "drobberdoss", but he's more like "driveledross"!
w0033944 2 years ago
I understood traintaz perfectly.
johnloomis1110 2 years ago
corrupt! corrupt! corrupt! and the stupid thing is people keep voting hoping for change. THEY ARE ALL CORRUPT! we should line em up like they did in Romania and shoot them
dobberdoss 2 years ago 2
no one gives these candidates any money...none.zippo. the dems and rep both are sent out on campaign trails and get you the people to donate money and give it all to the big banks. They all are bank whores! America was sold yrs ago. HOW? Because banks bought the tv networks first. Now if you can figure out how to vote out the tv networks and big banks and secret scocietys...you'll win.
SUPERBWON 2 years ago 3
it's so fucking disgusting that that bankers' contributions should matter at all to any elections, whether county or national. fucking disgusting. its centuries late that we should declare illegal any and EVERY private contribution to any PUBLIC candidate. campaign finance reform is the greatest obstacle to american ideals
manonthemount 2 years ago 3
the founding fathers stated that if "the people" loose their intrest in goverment and dont regulate it, then it will become corrupt. because "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" all these scams that are going on, i dont blame the players, i blame the game, and the game is allowed to be what it is by who? the people! our public has become a sack of stupidity and idiocity. hollywood is more important than main street. so Hi5 to bankers on screwing our moronic society.
WorldOfWarcraftlol1 2 years ago 3
dont worry the truth is spreading like wild fire its only a matter of time ; )
medli67 2 years ago 3
Usually on the comments for tyt it's nothing but left and right slamming each other, no matter the topic. It is so refreshing to see people waking up and realizing it doesn't matter if you have a R or D next to your name, all of them are owned by those with the money. Bravo. Now if only we can figure out a way to do something about it.
brussh11 2 years ago 19
Money and good looks talks. Nothing new here.
bluekarma4 2 years ago 4
We have too many CORPORATE WHORES in congress.
I thought the Tea Parties might work to stop them some but now the Corporations have taken them over so if you're still a Tea Party person you are crazy.
DillonX 2 years ago 23
@DillonX
Too many? The house of representatives is a Whore House......Nancy Pelosi is the Madaam.
Trob92 2 years ago 2
@Trob92
Agreed.
Kagelicious 2 years ago
@DillonX : The GOP swiftly moved to take control of the Tea Party, and to subvert it with help from the major outlets. If there's one thing that makes the NWO crowd nervous, it's exposure and populism.
joe80dman 1 year ago
Godamn Media People are helping with the destruction of this counrty. WAKEUP YOU BASTARDS YOUR MONEY ISNT GONNA BE WORTH SHIT EITHER SOON!
stuntdoogie 2 years ago 3
CENK...when will you get out of the fog and in to the light.most of your viewers know the whole thruth or can figure out when your leaving out the most important parts in your storys.
stop the half truhs and the propaganda we know when ur doing it.
i hate alex jones i dont like many things about him specially how religious he is.but when it comes to some truths and commoncense hes totally right. get down with the majority of your viewers and stop the half truths and you will dominate youtub
madrugao5am 2 years ago
The bottom line is, "We, the people..." are represented by no one. It's disgusting. The only solution is to vote every politician out of office. That is the only power we have. Get rid of every one of them.
czubspenx 2 years ago 5
@czubspenx
It king of depressing, isn't it? The only power given to the people are the right to vote for the elected leaders, but that power is nullified when you stop to think that the people don't vote, but rather select from big corporations sponsored - or paid for - candidates.
Kagelicious 2 years ago 4
Yes, very depressing, to say the least. It's all about Bait and Swith, or BS for short. You have these candidates that make these campaign promises and as soon as they are in office, they do whatever they please. Bush ran on fiscal responsibility, small government, no nation builidng, etc. Obama runs on openess, change, transparency, troops out of the MidEast, etc. They both lie...bait and switch...BS. Voter every politician out of office. Then they will get the messsage.
czubspenx 2 years ago 3
@czubspenx
The worst part of it all is that, for the overwhelming majority, the people only have a chance to vote their congressmen and congresswomen out of office after years of tricked, and when that happens, new frauds run for office and are elected in their place. It's a vicious cycle. Once you remove politicians who lied to their constituents, they are replaced by new ones - regardless of party; See Bush vs. Obama.
Kagelicious 2 years ago 3
Gather around children I have a story.Along time before discovering fire there were two tribes.One a nomadic group that wandered,never settling down, growing crops, or building houses. Then one day they came across a happy,peaceful, hard working group living by a large rushing river. The nomads wanted it.They could not use force, so they begged to live there and this was the beginning of our two political parties the Democrats and Republicans.The Republicans are not the nomads.
alexbsmith 2 years ago
scenk you old turd the only thing owned is you by BSMSNBS the 4th most watched cable network. Stop going to the daily kos for your passed on bullshit
09090985 2 years ago
MSNBC 4th most watched?
They are rated # 37 right after Bozo the clown.
MrSpamkiller 2 years ago
The people who control politicians use wallstreet through the private federal reserve to buy our politicians.
deletemepleez 2 years ago 5
Hey, TYT, when will you admit that you're owned by MSNBC, who is owned by the Obama-administration?
veriteez 2 years ago
It is still true at the time the goverment had a dem majority and dems backed it and voted for it! I'm not changing anything you can't wash your hands and say he was tricked into signing it and then say only obama's decisions held back a collapse. you can't have the glory when signing the blame. and if they are so dumb to be tricked, none of them should be in power, dem and rep
TheVideocult 2 years ago 2
OH my word. A politician being honest!!! HOW RARE!!! Everyone knows that America is a capitalist country (that is a good thing) and that even this administration has been bought. Wall street, Unions, etc.............
ladylordess 2 years ago
despite the fact that they're so blatantly honest about it, America is way too polarized and complacent to get together an do ANYTHING about it!
Conservatives, moderates, independents, and liberals alike all hate the fact that our politicians are owned by Wall Street...
However, we get divided on details that may or may not have political implications...and that's way too bad..
at any given moment, America is one unified revolution away from meaningful CHANGE!
LordCharlesBoustany 2 years ago 5
It was the progressive politicians that headed Fannie and Freddie and allowed them to give out loans to people who did not qualify. Even allowed them to fraudulently fill out applications. And bundle those bad loans and sell them. Bottom line Fannie and Freddie should have been left to fail and the politician should be brought up on charges. And the Government should stay out of the banking/mortgage industry.
quizerry 2 years ago 2
The US governmental system is a quasi-corporo-fascist institution designed to keep and prop up the stock market at the literal and virtual expense of 85% of its own population.
raydar878 2 years ago
The dems. and the reps. are fighting over which one of them can suck the bankers cock better
1ebihal 2 years ago
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TheVideocult 2 years ago
@TheVideocult Fuck off with your revisionist history. We remember what happened. Dems voted along with the bailout, but it was the idea of the Treasury Secretary and the rest of the Bush administration, and they tricked the Dems into thinking if it were not passed, no strings attached, the sky would fall. The Dems may or may not have been stupid to buy that, but they did it reluctantly, the Republicans did it eagerly. And now they try to say President Obama did it, even though it was 2008.
avatarmn 2 years ago
Step back and reflect, then tell me if this nation is still viable or is it on the brink of destruction?
rollsthepaul 2 years ago
For Wall Street idiots, it's like fall of 2008 never happened .
swingersonian 2 years ago 2
hehehe
samboymenia 2 years ago
OWNAGE! xD
DedoStavre 2 years ago
If the corps fund the 2 lame parties, and they also run the TV stations, then theres no way in hell the 3rd parties have a chance without publicity or money.
JHVH1 2 years ago 2
It doesn't have to be third parties. We can vote out all the career bought and paid for politicians. And try to elect people who promise to uphold the Constitution and clean up Washington. Reform the programs that don't work and are full of abuse, change regulation to allow true free market, No more corporate welfare, No fed aid to states that allows them to spend well above budgets and gives power to the federal Gov. It is time to buckle down and start being fiscally responsible.
quizerry 2 years ago 2
Wow... openly, publicly asking for bribe... they are not even trying to 'look' clean.
BioCapsule 2 years ago
oh my god, i can't believe you like henry waxmon. The guys a demonic ferrit with a soul as black as the event horizon of a black whole.
Fail
retard
ShaneDawsonVlog1 2 years ago
So I guess this MEANS INDEPENDENT/LIBERTARIAN for 2010. Down with the 2 (1) party system! Get a grip...
jean1126 2 years ago
Ill take any party in '12 as long as it aint Democrat!
RangRing68 2 years ago
Romney in 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RangRing68 2 years ago
You have to take into account the Supreme Court ruling on McConnell v. FEC. This magnifies the impact of Wall Street on American politics and the Conservative Republicans (who pushed for this decision) know it. They have no problem selling out the American public.
malgacho 2 years ago
Boehner is darth vader. Except he is orange.
chinacat22 2 years ago
Boehner is a well tanned,Republican Darth Vader who take no Democrat lip!
RangRing68 2 years ago
Cool!!!!!!!!!!!
tysancoffee 2 years ago
Cool!
tysancoffee 2 years ago
I love the ads I get while watching TYT. "Obama - socialist?" "Sarah for 2012?".
Kazikox 2 years ago
Plutacracy
MrExnihilo 2 years ago
obama is owned by wall st.
roaringwaterbay 2 years ago
Using hyperbole to prove a point proves that your viewpoint is based on emotion, not facts.
You cannot be manipulated without emotion.
:P
Joxman2k 2 years ago
Both parties are owned by the the wealthy, corporate power, banks etc. This not-so-much-of-a mystery should have ended decades ago. The revolving door is between political office and private industry of which a narrow segment move back and forth between. The great majority of the public are little more than slaves to those narrow, wealthy interests. As long as this system exists so will our modern slavery. Expecting your masters to free you by voting for one of them or their owned is madness
Navywxman 2 years ago 5
I guess we can always hope that there'ill be a Postal Strike...
hikonejo 2 years ago
hoping does nothing. thinking or talking does nothing. doing does something. americans are soft lazy people in a TV trance who want their potatoe chips and porn...beer, ect. We are doomed to a continued life of slavery, all our rights are an illusion and the world government is in place. the last remaining goal for the elites now is de-population since technology can almost support the rich people standards of living with the help of a few trainable over seas peoples to run the machines.
jasonxb 2 years ago
every one needs to quit sucking every ones dick
juanharu13 2 years ago
democrats=republicans=corporations=banks
most American citizens=mindless sheep
village1diot 2 years ago 9
Not you though, right?
DawnOfTheLiberalDead 2 years ago
correct!
village1diot 2 years ago
I love guys like you, haha. It's ok, you eventually grow out of the "Everyone is an idiot but me" phase.
DawnOfTheLiberalDead 2 years ago
But.. People have two legs not 4
dardonZ 2 years ago
sorry, my bad...
2 legged, mindless sheep.
village1diot 2 years ago
Oh thanks =)
lol
dardonZ 2 years ago
Don't you dis sheep them make wool and good meat meaning that they are actually useful. All republicans give are seizures.
jumjalalabash 2 years ago
Ron Paul in '12
RangRing68 2 years ago
OF COURSE!
Saaduk92 2 years ago
cenk - they gave more to Obama because he was way ahead in the polls.
billydu2u 2 years ago
as rachel maddow said thursday night, this is "republicans throwing a big slow curve ball over the plate (to democrats). swing batter swing."
it's really simple. internally, liberals keep pressure on obama and conservative dems. rahm emanuel should have a target on his back.
externally, make republican obstructionists vote on some legislation, make them choose banks, wall street, insurance anti trust, global warming and health care. get their votes on record and run against this.
tomitstube 2 years ago
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ccricers 2 years ago
hey you stupid motherfucker ass lickers , go an lick obama's ass , you are just beyond help.
Kioti077 2 years ago
Are you people seriously just now coming to the realization that America is a fascist nation? Take your money out of the banks people,they have power because of YOUR money.
angelicsoulz 2 years ago 4
dishonest Cenk fails to advise you all brain dead progressive Kool Aid drinkers that big organized labor gives 100% of their monies to the depraved DEMS
also, trial lawyers of America basically OWN the DEMS, hence no Tort Reform in health care bill! Surprise, surprise
genie0390 2 years ago
"Big organized labor" God, you people make me laugh. Oh yes, we have got to watch out for those all-powerful Unions, whose total annual donations to the DNC don't amount to sweet fuck all compared to how much the Banks, Pharma, and Defense industries pay out to BOTH parties. Get a clue for once in your life.
drauglintuor 2 years ago
dumbest fuck on the internet
zachsocool16 2 years ago
damn sandniggers ruining the internet when they aren't blowing themselves up or suckin binladin's cock fuck these turks
fakeandgay69 2 years ago
Turks aren't sand-niggers - us Arabs are. And yeah, this is coming from a proud Sandnigger intent on extending our control over the West, not by terrorism, but hard work and cunning skill.
In due time you will be sucking my balls, while I electricute the fuck out of Bin Laden's balls - if he is still alive. Otherwise I will target his equally evil massive extended family.
GooseHuntCunt 2 years ago 2
@GooseHuntCunt I'm pissed about how now people are saying that Arabs are white. I think they're only doing it so that Jesus is white again. I stand firm in my belief that Jesus was black.
EvilKarmaAngel 2 years ago
dark skinned....probably
black...most likely not
the man was a hebrew....hebrews are semites....not african
brabon1 2 years ago
They are probably also doing it as a type of cultural colonialism. Get Arabs thinking they are white and the same as Europeans, and they will eventually think the are Europeans,abandone their culture for a european one and will give the West unprecedented loyalty. That is quite important as now the West is fighting for influence in the ME, especially Iraq.
Though there are white, blond etc.. Arabs, they are usually only in the more northern nations - Syria, Iraq and Lebanon cont...
GooseHuntCunt 2 years ago
cont: However, you are correct the majority are significantly darker in skin colour to Northern Europeans - they are like Mediterranean people or darker. There is also some who are black, and Arabised Africans - Africans who speak the Arabic language.
To be honest, I doubt Jesus was white like how he is portrayed often, nor completely black. In reality I will put my bets on him being olive-skinned or brown. Take care man.
GooseHuntCunt 2 years ago
We are NEVER going to get anything done in Washington as long as the banks run the place and it doesn't look like that's going to change anytime soon... We're so fucked.
Lullybean 2 years ago 2
Wall Street just bet on the pony they knew would win: dems. They knew the public was sick of R's and decided to stay one step ahead by buttering up democrats. seems to have worked so far...
superzerox1 2 years ago
move your money to smaller local banks with fair rates, that way banks like bank of america wont be deemed "to big to fail" and require bails outs in a tax payers money cycle. then they can just fail and we'll let the fair banks manage our money.
BenJEMean 2 years ago
Apparently, you can't post website addresses on You Tube. That is truly lame. I have to ask why?
The Venus Project started by Jacque Fresco & Roxanne Meadows is the only way for us to go. The current system is broke and there is no fixing it.
herpiethelovebug 2 years ago 3
venus project FTW but it would take a huge war to implement it the rich would never let it happen
Newker 2 years ago
I agree with a few in here.
Although Cenk is a typical liberal smartass, he is right.
And he has pointed out some imperfections of "The One".
But I'm afraid his cynical tone turns off most people which causes them to automatically into defense mode. People who should probably listen to his points the most.
But don't get excited. I still hate liberals. I hate republicans too, but I just hate liberals more than batshit crazy bible thumpers. The "god" people are too busy with imaginary friends.
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
@LiberalHuntingSeason What is a liberal?
horuseyes 2 years ago
Oh come on, there's a 500 character limit.
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
Come on... Tell me what is a liberal. I want to understand it.
horuseyes 2 years ago
Today, it means someone who has an aducaiton, thinks, and considers the long-term impacts of our policies, so tends to be in favor of protecting civil liberties and protective the environment. A very scary creature.
sidiggy1 2 years ago
@sidiggy1 Ok thanks but now i'm even more confused. You only said good qualities, then why people like LiberalHuntingSeason hate liberals? I dont get it... Are they evil ppl and hate those good things?
horuseyes 2 years ago
A combination of some or all of the following qualities: Greedy, selfish, ignorant, uneducated, gullible and/or insane.
LiberalHuntingSeason is clearly insane, amongst other qualities.
sidiggy1 2 years ago
I hate the bible thumpers more because they have a merciless agenda and insanely efficient, multi-billion dollar funded media network.
The people you would call liberals are just a bunch of goofs of no threat to anyone.
Muchodelcrazy 2 years ago
Jews own the media and they push their liberal agenda daily telling people what to think and how to think. It's all part of the plan. Seriously, look up some quotes from Israel Cohen's book written in 1915.
I think the bible thumpers are just controlled by fear and are harmless. They sit on their asses hoping that their imagnary friend will "save us". Just like said imaginary friend has done in the past oh so many times before, right? hee hee
But, I still agree with your points.
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
Oh come on man, I am Arab and not even I blame all Jews like that. Yes there is a disproportional number of Jews in media (so I've been told), but that doesn't at all necessitate that they are all bad.
These people represent their own corporate agenda, just as the Christians in the media, rather than that of Judaism. And it is not just Liberal media, but also conservative media, each moguel bashing the agenda that will take him to the top at our expense.
GooseHuntCunt 2 years ago 4
Yes, it's all abou the Jews! Now, hold still as I use my Jewish mind control over you.
sidiggy1 2 years ago
You can't. I turned off the tv in 2004.
Who has been exiled from 473 nations for stealing host nations wealth for the past 1,000 years?
Who on the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve is NOT a jew.
Then look at the IMF, WHO, World Bank. Bank of England, CFR, etc etc. Name one CEO/President/Director of those places that is not a jew.
Who was it that stole Germany's wealth pre-Nazi Germany again?
Connecting the dots is fun!
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
You turned off the tv in 2004? I think you turned off your brain in the 1800s. Elizabeth Duke is not Jewish. Maybe your theories would hold water if you used facts to back them up.
ooMONKEYoo 2 years ago
What makes you think I need a television to control your mind? Bwahahahahaha!
sidiggy1 2 years ago
@LiberalHuntingSeason, shoudn't you be MORE concered with crazy bible thumpers, that are too busy with "god" and imaginary friends, that are using those beleifs to shape there policy's that also effect us?
TheDalinkwent 2 years ago 2
I'm not saying that you have a valid point. Because you do. I just have different priorities and perspectives.
Your question would be better answered by my question. For example.
Would you leave your mother overnight at your city's MLK Blvd? Or would you leave her overnight in a church?
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
@LiberalHuntingSeason, Your question regarding my mom and where I would leave her has nothing to do with my arguement. I would rather have a rational liberal or conserative that bases his policy's in logic and reailty rather then a bible thumper who use a 2000 year old book that has contradictions and different interpetations depending on who's reading it shaping his world view.
TheDalinkwent 2 years ago 2
@LiberalHuntingSeason I would leave my mother in a church but I wouldn't leave my 10 year old boy!
boumar19721972 2 years ago 2
lol, I chose my words carefully.
Ok, if you read between the lines, I think you can figure out my priorities and hopefully, that answers your question.
Cheers!
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
the Venus project.
herpiethelovebug 2 years ago
It's not really "buyer's remorse." In 2008 it was clear that it was Democrats year. With wholly incompetent governance for years and a financial crisis it was obviously Democrats year, regardless of whatever money wall street poured into the campaigns. So, it makes sense to contribute to a party you may not even like because you are attempting to, if you will, buy insurance against their future policies - hopefully weakening them. They never really liked democrats.
ASRIBEIRIO 2 years ago
Money is the root of all of mankinds evils. Well that and religion. We need to get rid of both of them for mankind to move forward. Cenk is explaining it to you pretty plainly. But fails to get to the bottom of the issue.
Seems the web address I posted is being blocked by You Tube, as it won't allow me to post if the address is in the comment. You Tube sucks.
herpiethelovebug 2 years ago
ok, now it works.
herpiethelovebug 2 years ago
test test, this friggen post board is not working
herpiethelovebug 2 years ago
Young Turks. no doubt all Politicians are owned by Big Biz/Federal Reserve. but I find it funny you don't mention that Obama's biggest campaign donor was Goldman Sachs, you know the same Goldman that is frontrunning the market and the same Goldman that was made 100% whole through the AIG bailout. not to mention how many ex-Goldman employees are in the administration? lets not act like they ALL don't have dirty noses. well, carry on with your partisan nonsense..move along .nothing to see here.
chuckyfunk1 2 years ago 2
That's a very important point that the media doesn't talk about.
Freethought42 2 years ago
chuckyfunk1 - dude, Cenk attacked Obama Admin weeks at a time about the Goldman Sachs payout, bailout, and campaign donations. he had a like a 11 minute rant about it. dude, Cenk is FAR from partisan ESPECIALLY when it comes to Financial Reform. Be honest man... damn, you're an idiot. Go to his page and type "bank", "AIG, or "Wallstreet" in search field and you'll have my proof, Chucky the Birther.
Mplay1983 2 years ago
Actually, they have said that. In fact it was in one of Cenk's many, many angry rants at Obama when Geithner was put in charge but before then too.
People complain about Cenk not doing his groundwork and then show a stunning ignorance of the very guy they're criticizing. The irony is palpable.
megamarsvin 2 years ago
*cries*
Shadyguy111 2 years ago