damn that is magnificent!! I've tried to do that a few times, never quick enough, the batter must have blinded him most of the way.. great hand eye co-ordination.
Any significant movement by any fielder after the ball comes into play and before the ball reaches the striker is unfair. In the event of such unfair movement, either umpire shall call and signal Dead ball.
thats perfectly fine he noticed the batsman shaping up for the sweep plus the ball being on leg stamp great anticipation u have to be a great slips catcher to have such aticipation... bravo.
i am a bowler and i think it is a good catch but it is incorrect feilding. The umpire should have been sacked if that was in the ODI tournament. I have been warned once when i was feilding and i ran across the keeper and the umpire said dead-ball you run whilst the bowler is running up/bowling. So that was a good comment.
How on earth is it morally not right? I would agree with you 100% if the fielder moved before the ball was bowled because that is against the rules but he moved afterwards when he saw where it was going. I think its a brilliant piece of fielding and as a batsman you would have to say 'well thats just too good' but morally not right? The same rules apply to the keeper and the keeper moves immediately so as to stay with the ball, its technically incorrect keeping if you don't so why is that ok?
I have a spinner bowling at you. I have two fielders; one at silly mid-on and one at silly mid-ff.
The bowler bowls, and you are about to play a forward defensive shot. The moment before you block the ball, both silly mid-on and off come within 2 feet of you and catch the ball after you hit it. Although u thought it was the safest shot you could play.
I think you need to come up with a better scenario because for starters, if i'm playing a forward defensive shot that can be caught by anyone, regardless of where they are fielding, i haven't played it correctly so in that scenario you couldn't have a problem with it because its your fault as a batter. And secondly, from your wording it sounds as though the fielders come straight towards you which is fine, its just like walking in at a fast pace and therefore has nothing to do with this argument
that would be cricket, they are fielding there aim away with a nurdle down to fine leg or third man. thats like saying, having a fielder out on the hook and bowling bouncers is not cricket,
From my observation, when the ball hits bat, the batsman is facing mid on, and Van Jaarsveld has taken ONE step towards the legside, that of his right foot crossing over to his left. The keeper has also made a movement to the legside, so both he and slip are the same distance apart as when the ball is bowled. Should the keeper be penalised for moving? No. So if the batsman cannot see the movement of the slip, and his movement is negligible by the time the ball is struck, I think he is truly out.
The fielder makes a movement a split second before the striker hits the ball. The movement cannot be seen by the batsman - he is not put off by it and the umpire, who is the sole judge of the rules and regulations on the ground, deemed it to be out, so I'm afraid for all you gooses out there, it's out! End of story. Read it on the scoresheet, it will say OUT caught Van Jaarsveld.
Rudi's made worse decisions at a higher level in his time.
Thanks for the info about the applicable rules which I was hereto ignorant of ... wasn't the striker making the shot when the fielder reacted ? Also hard to tell if he struck the ball before the fielder moved without super-slo-mo ?
It is all anticipation, made possible by the batsman for fielder standing at first slip. Peiterson debate is still open on switch hitting. As you said, it is out if law is not taken into account, I do not blame the fielder for paying attention to unfolding play. If you remeber T20 world cup final out, Hisb ul haq gave plenty of time to fielder standing on leg side. Later he said that he pre medidated the shot, and even got confused in between. Sreesanth easily took the catch. India won!
Great anticipation. Unfair for the batsman. But by the time ball hit the bat, first slip had not even crossed the keeper. It can only happen on a slow ball. ball hit the glove, instead of bat, and gave the fielder bit more time.. Everything is bang bang... It is out!
Of course it's out you fools. "The batsman has a right to expect that fielders will be where they were when he faces the bowler." - Yes, when the ball is delivered - after that, you can run where you want - otherwise how are 80% of all catches in cricket taken if no one is allowed to move? Wotajoke - you're a joke. Great anticipation, fine catch.
It's a dead ball ... What drugs was this umpire taking? This should have been given dead ball. Go and look up Law 41 (The Fielder) 7 and 8. "7. Any significant movement by any fielder after the ball comes into play and before the ball reaches the striker is unfair ... umpire shall call ... dead ball." and "8(a) For close fielders anything other than minor adjustments to stance or position in relation to the striker is significant"
That rule has to be taken with a grain of salt on occasions like this. The fact is that the bastman was already playing the stroke before van Jaarsveld made any significant movement. If the batsman had pre-meditated the shot and started playing it a whole second earlier, are the keeper and slip just supposed to stand there and let the ball go through? They would if the rule was taken seriously. The umpire was absolutely correct in giving this out.
The batsman has a right to expect that fielders will be where they were when he faces the bowler, that is why they are allowed to walk towards the batsman and slightly adjust their stance. How is it fair to the batsman that a fielder runs from first slip to leg-slip? It is not in spirit of cricket, nor is it in the Laws of the game. What exactly is "an occasion like this?" It must be the non-existent law that says don't apply laws when catch makes for good television.
I would look to the Laws of cricket to answer your question. Note there is a separate section dealing with the wicket keeper from other fieldsmen. Neither has a clause that mentions the amount of time between when the ball is delivered and when it is hit. Why is it important how long the batsman has? If the bowler is concerned about the amount of time then just bowl it quicker or set a different field. The batsman has the right to keep his eye on the ball and to play to the field that's set.
damn that is magnificent!! I've tried to do that a few times, never quick enough, the batter must have blinded him most of the way.. great hand eye co-ordination.
lestephenois1 1 year ago
this catch shudnt have been aloud.
"41.7. Movement by fielders
Any significant movement by any fielder after the ball comes into play and before the ball reaches the striker is unfair. In the event of such unfair movement, either umpire shall call and signal Dead ball.
peterb9911 2 years ago
@peterb9911 Pete. Grow a pair
and it depends on what you call a "significant movement", he moves about 3 steps
kieran888 2 years ago
@peterb9911 by the time the batsman has hit the ball, MJV has moved half a step and is still standing it first slip. It's not a significant movement
kieran888 2 years ago
Obviously Rudi Koetzen didn't agree
IanGorton 1 year ago
Fucking brilliant!!!! What can I say
IanGorton 2 years ago
he was getting ready to chase the ball to fine leg....
PromiscousPolygamist 2 years ago
how da fuck did he know!!1
originaldizzybrown 2 years ago
Saw him about to sweep it and moved to the other side
IanGorton 1 year ago
Match/Series: Titans v Eagles, MTN Domestic Champioship Final
Result: Titans won by 7 Wickets
VIDEO:
Bowler: Roelof Van Der Merwe
Batsman: Morne Van Wyk
Catcher: Martyn Van Jaarsveld
Keeper: Heino Kuhn
Team Fielding/Bowling: Titans (Blue)
Batting: Eagles (Green and Blue)
woodamler 2 years ago
Where are the Titans based may I ask? I know the Eagles are from Bloemfontein
IanGorton 1 year ago
No problem ;) Titans are based in Pretoria
woodamler 1 year ago
thats perfectly fine he noticed the batsman shaping up for the sweep plus the ball being on leg stamp great anticipation u have to be a great slips catcher to have such aticipation... bravo.
deathoffaces 2 years ago
tasbream vaughn van jaarsvels isnt martins brother u dumb fuck
zacrelph12 2 years ago
i think its morally not right for a fielder to move like that.
i mean, the batsman would never play this shot if someone was there.
try to get him out forcing him to make a mistake.
all of u who are calling it correct are lame bowlers who cant take a wicket without cheating :@
dogzrgood 2 years ago 2
i am a bowler and i think it is a good catch but it is incorrect feilding. The umpire should have been sacked if that was in the ODI tournament. I have been warned once when i was feilding and i ran across the keeper and the umpire said dead-ball you run whilst the bowler is running up/bowling. So that was a good comment.
bl00DAvian 2 years ago
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edisler 2 years ago
0:02 seconds he hasnt hit the ball but van jaarsveld is allready on the move. As dogzrgood said you cant move like that.
bl00DAvian 2 years ago
Yes, yes you can.
TheReadingStudent 2 years ago
How on earth is it morally not right? I would agree with you 100% if the fielder moved before the ball was bowled because that is against the rules but he moved afterwards when he saw where it was going. I think its a brilliant piece of fielding and as a batsman you would have to say 'well thats just too good' but morally not right? The same rules apply to the keeper and the keeper moves immediately so as to stay with the ball, its technically incorrect keeping if you don't so why is that ok?
Franco665 2 years ago
Sir,
please tell me how would u fee in this scenario:
I have a spinner bowling at you. I have two fielders; one at silly mid-on and one at silly mid-ff.
The bowler bowls, and you are about to play a forward defensive shot. The moment before you block the ball, both silly mid-on and off come within 2 feet of you and catch the ball after you hit it. Although u thought it was the safest shot you could play.
how would u like that to happen???
would that be cricket???
dogzrgood 2 years ago
I think you need to come up with a better scenario because for starters, if i'm playing a forward defensive shot that can be caught by anyone, regardless of where they are fielding, i haven't played it correctly so in that scenario you couldn't have a problem with it because its your fault as a batter. And secondly, from your wording it sounds as though the fielders come straight towards you which is fine, its just like walking in at a fast pace and therefore has nothing to do with this argument
Franco665 2 years ago 2
wow, its so easy to get u out.
bleh
dogzrgood 2 years ago
that would be cricket, they are fielding there aim away with a nurdle down to fine leg or third man. thats like saying, having a fielder out on the hook and bowling bouncers is not cricket,
dangriffin118 2 years ago
what the fuck he should be playing instead of his dud brother
tasbream 2 years ago
My mate Fraser does that all the time. We set guys up for that and Fraser is so quick and has such soft hands it works all the time!
robbielau 2 years ago
From my observation, when the ball hits bat, the batsman is facing mid on, and Van Jaarsveld has taken ONE step towards the legside, that of his right foot crossing over to his left. The keeper has also made a movement to the legside, so both he and slip are the same distance apart as when the ball is bowled. Should the keeper be penalised for moving? No. So if the batsman cannot see the movement of the slip, and his movement is negligible by the time the ball is struck, I think he is truly out.
Supermadhotrippedguy 2 years ago
The fielder makes a movement a split second before the striker hits the ball. The movement cannot be seen by the batsman - he is not put off by it and the umpire, who is the sole judge of the rules and regulations on the ground, deemed it to be out, so I'm afraid for all you gooses out there, it's out! End of story. Read it on the scoresheet, it will say OUT caught Van Jaarsveld.
Catatofish 2 years ago
I should say, however...if i'd been bowling, i would've been all over the appeal!!!!
It feels like that anticipation deserves a wicket...but.....it's not out.
UNDER THE LAWS OF THE GAME!!!!!
I should add...I reckon it DESERVES TO BE OUT.
BUT IT ISN"T.....
revealmedia 2 years ago
Rudi's made worse decisions at a higher level in his time.
Thanks for the info about the applicable rules which I was hereto ignorant of ... wasn't the striker making the shot when the fielder reacted ? Also hard to tell if he struck the ball before the fielder moved without super-slo-mo ?
mattmurfy 2 years ago
It is all anticipation, made possible by the batsman for fielder standing at first slip. Peiterson debate is still open on switch hitting. As you said, it is out if law is not taken into account, I do not blame the fielder for paying attention to unfolding play. If you remeber T20 world cup final out, Hisb ul haq gave plenty of time to fielder standing on leg side. Later he said that he pre medidated the shot, and even got confused in between. Sreesanth easily took the catch. India won!
NYpinstripes25 2 years ago
Great anticipation. Unfair for the batsman. But by the time ball hit the bat, first slip had not even crossed the keeper. It can only happen on a slow ball. ball hit the glove, instead of bat, and gave the fielder bit more time.. Everything is bang bang... It is out!
NYpinstripes25 2 years ago
No....
It's not out. Check the laws of the game.
The LAWS OF THE GAME.....
Cricket: Law 41, items 7 & 8.
revealmedia 2 years ago
...by the time ball hit the bat, first slip had not even crossed the keeper.
..and had already made the ball dead.....by THE LAWS OF THE GAME.......
revealmedia 2 years ago
Not out under the laws of the game (Rudi, I'm looking at you!), but 10/10 for enthusiasm.
revealmedia 2 years ago
Rudy Koetzen wouldn't know the rules anyway....he's a joke of an umpire.
WillMcKockfitt 2 years ago
Of course it's out you fools. "The batsman has a right to expect that fielders will be where they were when he faces the bowler." - Yes, when the ball is delivered - after that, you can run where you want - otherwise how are 80% of all catches in cricket taken if no one is allowed to move? Wotajoke - you're a joke. Great anticipation, fine catch.
Catatofish 2 years ago
Little of what you say makes sense.
Cricket: Law 41, items 7 & 8.
It's very clear. Not out.
revealmedia 2 years ago
As mentioned DEAD BALL. Whinge all you like, fools.
Aussies01 2 years ago
It's a dead ball ... What drugs was this umpire taking? This should have been given dead ball. Go and look up Law 41 (The Fielder) 7 and 8. "7. Any significant movement by any fielder after the ball comes into play and before the ball reaches the striker is unfair ... umpire shall call ... dead ball." and "8(a) For close fielders anything other than minor adjustments to stance or position in relation to the striker is significant"
wotajoke 2 years ago
Yeah nah idiot, Fuck off ya know nohing QQ your shit team lost u kno nothing
PaulFromOzz 2 years ago
wotajoke ur a fuking cunt
kirkass29 2 years ago
who the fuck are you? shove your rule book up your fucking ass and accept that it is one of the best catches of all time you dickhead.
tommirows 2 years ago
That rule has to be taken with a grain of salt on occasions like this. The fact is that the bastman was already playing the stroke before van Jaarsveld made any significant movement. If the batsman had pre-meditated the shot and started playing it a whole second earlier, are the keeper and slip just supposed to stand there and let the ball go through? They would if the rule was taken seriously. The umpire was absolutely correct in giving this out.
Cs19872 2 years ago
The batsman has a right to expect that fielders will be where they were when he faces the bowler, that is why they are allowed to walk towards the batsman and slightly adjust their stance. How is it fair to the batsman that a fielder runs from first slip to leg-slip? It is not in spirit of cricket, nor is it in the Laws of the game. What exactly is "an occasion like this?" It must be the non-existent law that says don't apply laws when catch makes for good television.
wotajoke 2 years ago
I would look to the Laws of cricket to answer your question. Note there is a separate section dealing with the wicket keeper from other fieldsmen. Neither has a clause that mentions the amount of time between when the ball is delivered and when it is hit. Why is it important how long the batsman has? If the bowler is concerned about the amount of time then just bowl it quicker or set a different field. The batsman has the right to keep his eye on the ball and to play to the field that's set.
wotajoke 2 years ago
we have a saying in australia for comments like yours does the word DICKHEAD sound
familiar
pizzmire2005 2 years ago
And there was no significant movement before the ball reached the striker, so what the hell is your point?
bgussey 2 years ago
haha yeah, i dont know how you describe that it was pretty funny
filoboy88 3 years ago
Thing is... he would have looked like an idiot had the batsmen edged it, and it went through slips...
h4xCharky 3 years ago 2
It makes you wonder why the hell the keeper couldn't preempt that.
Amazing catch.
NinjaMerc 3 years ago
Strewth!
vivski 3 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA only 3 simple words can describe that..... W A T T H E F U C K
JoenJayno 3 years ago
what a pisser of a catch
watts68au 3 years ago