Gary is a heretic in the 1st degree read Dave Hunt the berean call org or watch him on you tube but the Demar is unlearned and a fool! Please stay away from him
Jesus was right when He said 'this generation' shall not pass away before they see ...... They did see God's Kingdom once Jesus was raised from the dead! He traveled and taught for 40 days before going up into heaven. This was but a foretaste of things to come in the last days. We are NOW in the last days with Israel back in the land and the final battle is being set up NOW. There is very little time left. Repent before it is too late. Maranatha!
so you are saying the tribulation such as never has been, has passed .......really... have you really read it....come on ..........really?? saw him in the clouds..really??
@elwap0, the expression "coming on the clouds" can also be found in Daniel 7:13.. And behold, One like the Son of Man,Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days...
It does not mean "coming DOWN on the clouds." Rather it means "ascending to God to receive absolute power, judgment & dominion over all nations. That's what Christ did to the Jews in 70 AD by punishing them using the Romans - an excercise of divine judgment & the true meaning of "coming on the clouds."
"coming in the clouds" is a picture that is used already in the old testament as a figurative term to describe a judgement. It is legitimate to see the destruction of the temple as a judgement. Makes sense.
Also, I don't see how you could have figured that Jesus would be coming in the clouds could have happened already, or the 4 winds parting or the other extreme, almost acid tripped out sayings Jesus spoke of. I also find it ironic that if you found in the Quaran, that Allah had said something along the lines of what Jesus said you would instantly say it was false. Never in a million years would you make these far fetched excuses for why it hasn't happened for the followers of Allah, or Budda
Yeah, I do realize christians will stand in denial at blatant proof Jesus was a fraud. They will indeed make "extreme" claims saying Jesus was talking about people 2000 years from that time. And in 2000 years from our time they will say he meant 4000 years. You will make up lies that don't even remotely fit to keep your happy delusion going. Which is fine if it helps you, but people who want truth can clearly see it.
Yes. What's the big deal? Haven't your read Isaiah 53 where it appears at first that Isaiah is speaking to that generation but we know it was a generation 600 years into the future. Read the prophets. It was common for the prophets to address a future generation as if it they were present at that time.
The difference is that isaiah doesnt actually name them this generation and it is not directed to a certian timeframe, but matt. 24 specifically dates and names the generation and time wherin it would happen.
And btwm your first argument is a circular one that only has meaning if you already belives that matt. will happen in a distant future.
You are exactly right. Jesus first says that at that time, this, this and this will happen. Then he says that this generation, meaning the generation living at the time these things happen, will not pass away until all these things come to pass.
He makes since... but his view will not make him much money. I bet the Trinity Broadcast Center will not host him..... They would rather get into the end time hysteria.
Gary is a heretic in the 1st degree read Dave Hunt the berean call org or watch him on you tube but the Demar is unlearned and a fool! Please stay away from him
thethecommander 1 year ago
Jesus was right when He said 'this generation' shall not pass away before they see ...... They did see God's Kingdom once Jesus was raised from the dead! He traveled and taught for 40 days before going up into heaven. This was but a foretaste of things to come in the last days. We are NOW in the last days with Israel back in the land and the final battle is being set up NOW. There is very little time left. Repent before it is too late. Maranatha!
ljackso 2 years ago 3
so you are saying the tribulation such as never has been, has passed .......really... have you really read it....come on ..........really?? saw him in the clouds..really??
elwap0 2 years ago
Really.
jcr4runner 2 years ago
@elwap0, the expression "coming on the clouds" can also be found in Daniel 7:13.. And behold, One like the Son of Man,Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days...
It does not mean "coming DOWN on the clouds." Rather it means "ascending to God to receive absolute power, judgment & dominion over all nations. That's what Christ did to the Jews in 70 AD by punishing them using the Romans - an excercise of divine judgment & the true meaning of "coming on the clouds."
csdr0 1 year ago
@elwap0
"coming in the clouds" is a picture that is used already in the old testament as a figurative term to describe a judgement. It is legitimate to see the destruction of the temple as a judgement. Makes sense.
FallaciesDetective 1 year ago
Also, I don't see how you could have figured that Jesus would be coming in the clouds could have happened already, or the 4 winds parting or the other extreme, almost acid tripped out sayings Jesus spoke of. I also find it ironic that if you found in the Quaran, that Allah had said something along the lines of what Jesus said you would instantly say it was false. Never in a million years would you make these far fetched excuses for why it hasn't happened for the followers of Allah, or Budda
Blackdog12285 2 years ago
Yeah, I do realize christians will stand in denial at blatant proof Jesus was a fraud. They will indeed make "extreme" claims saying Jesus was talking about people 2000 years from that time. And in 2000 years from our time they will say he meant 4000 years. You will make up lies that don't even remotely fit to keep your happy delusion going. Which is fine if it helps you, but people who want truth can clearly see it.
Blackdog12285 2 years ago
You are attacking a strawman and haven't watched or understood the videos.
Preterists say these prophecies DID refer to the first century and they were fulfilled to the letter.
jcr4runner 2 years ago
So tell us Blackdog if you are not a believer why did you even bother to watch this?
btqlover 2 years ago
stupid preacher. You attended the wrong seminary.
trommelbiel 2 years ago
The generation is the ELECT at the time those things Jesus mentions in Matthew 24 take place. It is a future generation.
Oh, and Matthew 16:28 was fulfilled in Matthew 17:1-8.
tempusfugit68 3 years ago
So when Jesus speaks to his disciples and says,
"When YOU see all these things happening ..."
"This generation shall not pass away till all these things come to pass ..."
"Some standing here ..."
He is talking about a generation thousands of years in the future?
It's funny too that every generation who reads this has thought they are the generation to whom Jesus is speaking!
jcr4runner 3 years ago 4
Yes. What's the big deal? Haven't your read Isaiah 53 where it appears at first that Isaiah is speaking to that generation but we know it was a generation 600 years into the future. Read the prophets. It was common for the prophets to address a future generation as if it they were present at that time.
tempusfugit68 3 years ago
The difference is that isaiah doesnt actually name them this generation and it is not directed to a certian timeframe, but matt. 24 specifically dates and names the generation and time wherin it would happen.
And btwm your first argument is a circular one that only has meaning if you already belives that matt. will happen in a distant future.
geiroffenberg 3 years ago 2
You are exactly right. Jesus first says that at that time, this, this and this will happen. Then he says that this generation, meaning the generation living at the time these things happen, will not pass away until all these things come to pass.
maxINaus 3 years ago
Jesus was dealing with THIS generation..not one 2000 yrs later
OnlyTheScriptures 3 years ago
He makes since... but his view will not make him much money. I bet the Trinity Broadcast Center will not host him..... They would rather get into the end time hysteria.
pa226p 3 years ago 2