Riverside Blues -- King Oliver 1923

[uacmitico]

Guaauuuu!!!

[EmiKimura88]

Epic!

[ThePaloheimo]

What is the difference between Jazz between 1923-25 and 1915-1922?

[5h4wnj0hns0n110]

i love blues and such.... but i dont like this :/

[JPats100]

I dont see whats so great about this oliver song. I like "Tears" and "Mabel's Dream ( the fast take)" a lot better,

[Roboviewer]

Interesting that this sounds like a different take than

the one on my cd. All the solos are generally the same

but slightly different, and the trumpet can be heard more

clearly at the end here.

[peteporter]

Dipper Mouth was Louis Armstrong's nickname, given to him as a child. Later in his career they upgraded it to Sir Dipper. 

[2000philjones]

Was King Oliver called Dipper Mouth because he used a dipper to

drink from a bucket of sugared water during sessions

[diggsduke]

King Oliver came up with the idea for the Harmon mute and was the first to put it into action...Unfortunately, some businessman stole the idea, patented it and made a lot of money on it. He didn't share it with the King, although Oliver expressed many times throughout his life that he wanted some money for it.

[13421JLUJ]

I love this music : )

Brings me back in those days

[Squarerig]

When I was young these people,Africans,were referred to as Negroes,the term Black was insulting and coloured demeaning.So what's new?The music is the thing.

[HerrBrewer]

Man, all this long talk about race and genetics. And I came here lookin' for some King Oliver! Jazz....is there anything it can't do?

[gmmix]

What a great sound! IT represents a world much missed by many, yours truly included.

[nyxen]

awesome tunes! thanks for this video bro , respect

[danylongshaft]

You can really hear the brilliance seeping through in Armstrong's solo, especially that lick between measures 9 and 10 of the turnaround .

[starfly7]

Here we have one of the original legends of Jazz and all you people want to spew is hate, ignorance and a air of superior thought..............sad, sad human race.

[dirtynuke]

But certainly not the first Black jazz band. There were many jazz bands before this...and most if not a

[dirtynuke]

The first Negro jazz band? Lol. Maybe the first to sell a hit...or tour around but certain

[spacecommander12]

i just hate descriptive words

[ANACATALINA16]

if i were black! i will YELL: IM BLACK!!!!!!!!! NEGRAA DE CORAZÓN DE TIERRA ADENTRO!!! i wish i were black! :) !!! 

[greengringo2003]

Enough with political correctness, all you Krauts, Wops, Kikes, Niggers, Spades, Sheenys, Chinks, Gooks, Frogs, Guineas, Polaks, Limeys, and more (I'm included in the list above, so nya nya!). There are more at "list of ethnic slurs" on Wikipedia.

And.Get.Over.It.

[CinnAlla]

@greengringo2003 Jocks. You didn't say Jocks. Say Jocks and you can include me in the damn list.

[Perodicticus]

Oliver’s Riverside Blues, it was. And now

I shall, I suppose, always remember how

The flock of notes those antique negroes blew

Out of Chicago air into

A huge remembering pre-electric horn

The year after I was born

Three decades later made this sudden bridge

From your unsatisfactory age

To my unsatisfactory prime.

-- Philip Larkin, "Referenc e Back"

[hatetosayitoldyou]

@Perodicticus That poem is exactly what made me come on youtube and type in this song <3

[450984]

What the hell are we suppose to call you? You don't want -----, negro, words have been banned because of you idiots! Feed, house & clothe yourselves, and stop living off taxpayers and looking for handouts!

[electriceric100]

@450984 call them people

[thealiz2007]

@450984 hummm you sound upset!!!

[MUCIUDGDL]

gracias por subir tan buena musica

la verdad es buenisima

thanks

[doddling]

This is fabulous. I've a 1915 album Of Joe's band and on the back it states Joe Oliver and Louis Armstrong had to stand 30 ft from the old crystal mikes in the studio or they'd blow them and they still come through like they're fronting them

Nothing like those guys now.

[bhbpinneberg]

@doddling - Hello, 1915?? you're on the wrong track! Oliver's 1st recordings were made in April, 1923 and the band couldn't use a mike as this one was only in regular use since (spring) 1926. The Olivers were recorded acoustically! That means, they played into a horn. The only one with a problem in recording was Bill Johnson and his bass, that could NOT be recorded as for the technical problems. He thus changed to the banjo (see Oliver-pics)

[birdandthe]

great record and hard to beleive this is a 1923 pre electric recording

[StarrGennett]

King Oliver recorded for Gennett Records in 1923. He was inducted into the Starr-Gennett Walk of Fame 2007.

[HeadbangerUSA]

What ever happend to this good music i'm only 14 and I wish more of this was in our country today. (sigh)

[lNHUMANE]

@HeadbangerUSA "I usually listen to heavy metal or hard rock. I also listen to old clasics like Kiss, GNR, Slayer, Metallica, Poision...etc. . Slipknot is my favorite metal band." ... okay.

[MultiTechno95]

black rules

[lordbitterness]

how has passed black people from making this incredible music to hip hop shit!?!?!?

[poonandcheese]

it's more or less a direct progression as far as I'm concerned. Hiphop and rap need a bit of a different mindset to appreciate, the focus is more on rhythm than melody. That being said, the majority of (mainstream) hiphop and rap acts are crap. I'm sure it was the same in the 20's - this act is just one of the pearls among the swine.

[pushticat]

I'm going to have this recording played at my funeral. I can't think of a better accompaniment.

The captions for the images are not all correct.

The one labelled Charlie Jackson is,in fact, Bill Johnson and that labelled Johnny St.Cyr is actually Bud Scott-and taken from a later Dixie Syncopators promtional photo.

Great music though.

[bhbpinneberg]

Hear Ida Cox's COFFIN BLUES and you'll change your mind

[FourElementFusion]

I dont like countries....

lol i dunno!

I do know this is Amazing stuff tho!

from a 23yr old london Hip Hop head.

[violent2039]

ilike

[HunajaMelooni]

It's a shame that the people who don't know anything about the music come here and tries to be genious with he's knowledge of music (which he apperantily don't have). If your mind isn't able to handle this kind of music, get out of here, dismissed. You're not needed here. Peace. Written by a Finnish.

[TorontoEd7]

I like this old style so much that i went and bought a cd of King Oliver.

[24Monch]

great! for all you suckers who say that internet is killing the discographic industry!

[chkjns]

Ed - I've got music playlists for EVERY year back to 1900, always adding to them, it's a work in progress. Hope you'll give a listen . . . . . . .

Time travel is now possible because my playlists and your mouse now take you back to the music of any year . . . .

[TorontoEd7]

Thanks for all you do to let others hear some of these great sounds. I do plan to listen to most of your posts if possible.

[bowfrog]

eliittipeliitti, the only one in your country that could make love to a cherrio and not break it!!!!!!!!!! Have a good day and keep the "F" word out of you tube, unless you have a limited vocabulary. Peace,

[Immaculate416]

fuckety fuck fuckkkkkk

[TorontoEd7]

I hope some of these postings will be removed. Good music is just plain good, so i dont know why idiots get on here to spew hatred. Thank you for posting these old time historical relics!

[Ltndoom]

sorry i just like my country. this song is great as well

[bowfrog]

Listening to this and watching Ken Burn's jazz documentery, I am glad that I live in a country that allowes ALL music. GOD BLESS THE USA!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ltndoom]

so tell me then what has this blessed finland done for the world?

[eliittipeliitti]

Finland has Nokia and Patria

[yunasol123]

estupenda orquesta la de k.oliver que abrio camino a la musica de jazz

[nicodagger]

Squarig...you make an interesting point..I wonder, is it a fair exchange, 400 years of horrendous slavery, murder, Jim Crow and oppression for a culture of genius that produced music like this and so much more? As a white person, I have no right to say yes, and i don't, and surely, obviously, any African-American, going back to the Africans brought here as slaves, would say "thanks but no thanks"..we would have much rather stayed where the hell we were, and grew out own culture at home!!

[beanheadr]

Fuck that I would not want to live in Africa.

[Squarerig]

I know that a lot of yu out there will fall upon my neck in outrage but!It is ironic that,without slavery,segregation and all that implies, we would probably never have had that wonderful artform.Jazz.Comments are invited.

[dauphont]

I understand where your coming from, but in my opinion, even if the whole slave trade never existed, african and european musical styles would have eventually combined to make jazz, or something like it. But whose to say? it might have spawned a totally different style altogethor.

[mr1940s]

yes but they would have merged in African colonies and brough over to American by African Refugees

[AssaultKalashnikov]

0:56 i love this picture, reminds me of the wutang, how they always refer to their lyrics / microphone as a weapon

[deepestrick]

including you

[scam513]

All you can shut the hell up, your all white...

[AssaultKalashnikov]

you're*.

[jozh90]

I don't like the fact you referred to King Oliver as having the first "negro" jazz band. That word makes me feel sick.

[erwigfilms]

I totally agree with you, I had it copied from earlier dicography and I changed it accordingly.

[jozh90]

Ah I get you. It's mad that they would be referred to as anything other than what they are. Which is brilliant.

I've only just really got into Jazz, I like to expand my horizons. Any recommendations?

[knowfuture22172]

Well...back when this was recorded, that was what black people preferred to be called. Look at any old Equal Rights literature from that time and you'll see the word all over the place. Times change.

[jozh90]

I understand the zeitgheist. I just don't think it's acceptable now.

[bhbpinneberg]

Hello, it was normal use to name a black person a 'nigger', even black people named another one this way above all when being angry! Read black authors like Hughes or Richard Wright. By the way, the original 78rpm-records often had 'race' on the sunken label as they were recorded for black customers and issued in a special 'race-series'. That were OKeh's 8000-series, Victor's V-38000-series, Vocalion's 1000-series, Paramount's 12000-series and Columbia's 12000-series. All for the black market.

[bhbpinneberg]

@bhbpinneberg - Sorry, it was the 14000-series of Columbia that was dedicated to the race!

[thealiz2007]

@tombstonehand1 I agree with you, I come from Dominican Republic where the mayority of the population is black.. we call each other Negro or Negra even if we are as white as the snow... we do not get offended... that's what we are Negros and we are/I am very proud of it.... and going back to Black Jazz band I love it....

[pianiplunker]

@jozh90

I'm not sure about elsewhere, but in the U.S white people feel like it's their duty to inform minorities on what we should be calling ourselves. You really opened a can of worms with your comment it looks like.

[caloscalante1518]

@pianiplunker you see it makes them feel better because their ancestors are the ones that dragged the africans here to make them slaves and discriminate then etc. Notice THEY are the ones that do not like hearing the words, where as everyone else does not care. It is the same reason that Native Americans do not pay taxes... they are trying to make up for something that THEIR past relatives messed up in. sort of like reverse racism. they think it makes up for hundreds of years of injustice

[Anoush23]

@caloscalante1518 at least they are trying....

[ryuouji]

@jozh90 Get over it. He's just using a term that was acceptable at the time. People today still refer to black people from the earlier 20th century and before as negroes.

[BuckshotLaFunke]

@jozh90 Up till the 1970's 'negro' was the normal word. I'm Jewish and if they call me 'Shmous', it's OK.

[southwriter]

@jozh90 "Negro", idiot, is the scientific term for the black race, and is also the Spanish word for it. "Caucasion" is the scientific word for white-European race. Stop being so politically correct and overly sensitive, you Bleeding Heart Libs.

[yourockets3]

@southwriter there's nothing similar to a scientific definition of race .... race is an unscientific word.

try to read Stephen Jay Gould's writings on this theme - to name just one

[southwriter]

@yourockets3 You're an idiot. Undoubtly, you'uve never studied archeology. Different races and cultures of people have to be described in scientific terms- period. I'm sorry it upsets your little Politically Correct applecart, Lib.

[yourockets3]

@southwriter undoubtly the idiot here is that guy - you - who insults everyone - you never studied biology where no serious scientis use the concept of race. try to study Cavalli Sforza just to name one. and try to be polite if only you can't avoid to be a mother fucking idiot

[southwriter]

@yourockets3 Oooooo! Your grasp of the English language shows your intelligence; well, that and your spelling of scientists "scientis". Stop the Political Correctness, already.

[yourockets3]

@southwriter sono italiano idiota, vediamo come te la cavi on la mia lingua - la pochezza del tuo argomento dimostra la tua di stupidità. tra l'altro idiot è una parola che deriva dalla mia di lingua. sei contento??? prova tu ad esprimerti in una lingua che non è la tua testa di cazzo

[yourockets3]

@southwriter English isn't my mother tongue, I'm italian- it should be clear to any people. Your last message only shows your intelligence -that is very few. scientis instead of scientists is obviously a type mistake... the fact that you don't argument shows your poor culture. by the way concerning your statement "stop the poitical correctness" - I agree - you are only a bag of shit son of a couple of bags of shit

[southwriter]

@yourockets3 Whatever gets you through the night, son. If you're Italian, then why do you care about the term "Negro"? And, in Italian, "Nero" isn't much different. "Negro" is also the Spanish word for a black person. Gee, you just lose on every point, don't you?

[tdlucas]

This is wonderful! Thanks for posting. Damn, one can get a good jazz education from YouTube alone!

[jotapunky]

uno de los primeros en el jazz

[HepCat215]

This is just beautiful. Real dixieland blues. 5 stars.

[Squarerig]

Through all King Oliver's recording which,without exception,are some of the finest in the JAZZ genre,I hear/erhoere a strain of sadness and sorrow.That is what makes this music so special for me.Glorious music,and yet,even when playing "happy" tunes there is this melancholy as underlay.What do others listeners think?

[carl206rc]

I agree, this music it's kinda sad but the try to do it happy , seems like they want to overcome that step in their history.

[czechnoob]

I dont think there's melancholy... Maybe in some other songs, but not in this one...

[ordix44]

Beste SQ,

sowas gibt es immer wieder in Breda zu hören, von Miss Lulu White's Red Hot Jazz Band as ju nou...

[HepCat215]

I think it sounds melancholy, and that's part of the reason I love it.

[knowfuture22172]

And that's what a lot of modern people who try to play blues just DON'T GET---it's supposed to be emotional music. It doesn't bother me that white people play blues, music belongs to everybody. Just do it right!

[bhbpinneberg]

@Squarerig - yes, you're right and that is the difference between blacks and whites. Whites can't play neither jazz nor blues if we understand the rules!

[kingoliver45]

Wow!!! ive never heard this take!!! Still as amazing as the first!!!

[demet8]

Waldo2384 do you not know the law of the land during that time period. If you had any drop of black blood flowing through your veins, you were and are considered a negro? Imagine anyone one of them ever saying they weren't black. They would have been swinging from a tree before there set ended.

[waldo2384]

There is no reason to continue to deny their identity today, just because Jim Crow tried to deny it back in the 20s. Creoles were a distinct ethnic group back then, regardless of legal discrimination.

[mig15fan]

Thanks!, in this "plastic" era they still sound heavenly!! human soul has no PC virtual replacement, long live Jazz and thanks for posting!!!

Al A

from South America

[Corrie121]

Great! *****

Thank you for sharing.

[waldo2384]

At least three of these musicians were Creoles of color, not Negros.

[cymro89]

racist w***er - who needs that sort of comment?

[gregopvuur]

friends, waldo2384 is correct. remember that louisiana operates (still today) under the napoleonic legal system rather than the English system the rest of the country knows. race was strictly categorized, from the children of a white and a black being a mulatto, to someone with 1/8 black blood being legally classified as an octoroon. keep in mind also that louisiana recognized "free people of color" even before emancipation, and granted legal rights based on the degree of black vs white blood

[knowfuture22172]

Back during segregation in New Orleans, the rule used to be for a lot of bars and restaurants was they'd have a brown paper bag at the door and your skin had to be lighter than the color of the bag to come in. Creoles and light-skinned black people were allowed into a lot of places that dark-skinned black people weren't.

[ernestofalzone]

Dear friends... the last solo is made by Louie? It seems his tune... There is another version recorded for Paramount, where the louis's style is more evident in that solo... Thanks for the music!

[crankyanker157]

damn old

[odysseetheater]

thank you for this pice of history!!!! as jazzsinger i am surching for "my"musical roots ... this is part of it thanks a lot ... eva from vienna / austria (we not only are doing waltz... :)

[ultimateinfinite]

well good! I'm doing an essay on this period and have realised its bloody great!

[mikesgunsandammo]

i did my thesis on louis armstrong. i love it too.

born to late...maybe....