Rick Warren - I've never even made a statement about Prop 8 - WTF?

[mrkwonsony]

That Pastor is a fucking sexy charming great body man though ... He's got himself too (so) strong paternal image ... I want him ... Maybe he's just hiding and hating for the classical reasons.

[AlanCanon2222]

Surely Rick's a self-loathing gay man, like so many evangelicals who come down against LGBT rights issues. George Alan Rekers, Ted Haggard, Ken Mehlman, Mark Foley...

[galinka45]

Myn father went to prison for Christ in USSR for 7 years, left 15 children at home, suffered for God, will Warren suffer for God if he have too? he proly will cut my dad's head off if KGB make him. He cant even stand up for God's Word in a Free Country, I have no words for this sicko.

[galinka45]

Psalm 111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; A good understanding have all those who do His commandments. His praise endures forever

[galinka45]

this "Pastor" is leading his members to hell, Warren u r a big liar and imberassing to Christ church. Take off ur blanket of Christianity and reveal yourself, U r not a God's man u r a devil worshiper.

[Crazytaru1]

Where can I get the whole interview for this?

BTW I used to dislike Rick Warren too cause certain people (Todd Friel, Johny MaC, etc) said he was not right in doctrine. But I listened to a message by Rick Warren on John Pipers website and it really blessed me. I think we should give Rick Warren some attention as we can learn a lot from him.

Listen to that sermon on John Pipers site called "The battle for our minds" and tell me that you cant be blessed by what he's saying

[911dispatcher]

One more thing. I don't hate child molesters either. All my life I've seen such hatred expressed for child molesters that it always stood out to me.

What also stood out to me was the self-righteousness of all those who so visibly showed their hate for others for their sins (that the hater didn't do). It stood out to me because I was aware that we all have sins about which we don't tell ourselves the truth.

This is why I don't hate sexual perverts. But neither will I lie for them.

[911dispatcher]

If there is ANY question, AT ALL of what I just said, just look at the remarks preceding mine.

Very telling.

Who are the haters? Who the ones judging others? Read the remarks.

Rick Warren doesn't hate sexual perverts.  I don't hate sexual perverts.

But because I tell the truth, they hate me.

[911dispatcher]

@iwantenlightenment Did you remove your remark or was it removed by YouTube? I sincerely hope it was you. Maturity is a good thing, as is judging ourselves when we make a bad decision and express hatred.

Everyone recognizes the character quality of graciousness.

"Iwantenlightenment" is an appropriate username. You do need to understand how incongruent it is to say you don't have it ("I want it" says you don't have it) and then pretend you're qualified to know who does or doesn't have it. :)

[iwantenlightenment]

@911dispatcher - "All I know is I know nothing" Socrates.

That said, it doesn't take a bright man to notice the hollowness of "truth" in dogma.

[iwantenlightenment]

I still hate you and people like you though. :)

[911dispatcher]

@iwantenlightenment Bright people recognize that those with hate have a problem with which they are refusing to deal. The end of that is that everyone who hates IS lying to himself.

Read Romans chapters 1-2 (but read it until you "get" it) and you'll see the explanation that bright people get.

God holds everyone accountable for what is in Romans 1-2 and the truth is that the circumstances of life communicate these truths to everyone, bright or not.

That's why the Bible convinces honest folk.

[911dispatcher]

@iwantenlightenment What you don't understand is that "brightness," while of great value, is of no value regarding genuine enlightenment. If it was, then light would show disfavor on those who aren't bright and light is better than that. Being bright is a source of pride and pride is your problem. Humility and a genuine desire to know and obey the truth is what will open the doors of enlightenment.

Wanting to justify your own desires will keep enlightenment from you.

[911dispatcher]

@iwantenlightenment If you really believed your quote of Socrates, then you wouldn't be so arrogant and you wouldn't be proud of seeking enlightenment.

Jesus said plainly, "If any man is willing to do His will (referring to His Father) then he shall know of the teaching, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself." Jesus was the faithful witness, who came not to do His own will, but the will of the One who sent Him. That will was for Jesus to offer Himself as propitiation for our sin.

[911dispatcher]

@iwantenlightenment The popular meaning of dogma expresses something that is not in keeping with what a follower of Jesus believes and it doesn't communicate how or what we think. Followers of Jesus know we are learning and the wise follower knows that he can't hold much too tightly except that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and that He cannot lie. We become convinced of this when Jesus tells told us that His sacrifice was for us individually. Everything else we hold rather loosely.

[911dispatcher]

Would I expect sexual perverts to viciously attack me for what I said with personal attacks? LOL Isn't that their stock in trade? Isn't that their MO? Isn't that their way? Everyone knows it is.

[911dispatcher]

God made you? Absolutely. He made murderers, rapists and child molesters, too.

The first two show your lack of logic. The third you probably would prefer that I don't mention because you most likely know this that sexual perverts share in private, that most of them had no inkling that they were homosexuals until they were molested by an older person.

This info sexual perverts don't want the public to know but It was a survey years ago among sexual perverts and the percentage was over 75%.

[911dispatcher]

By "gay," do you mean sexual perverts?

You say "don't judge" IMMEDIATELY after judging a man as "ignorant" AND those "like him."

Sexual perverts ALWAYS judge others while crying "don't judge us."

THAT is the very essence of hypocrisy. Am I surprised? Why would I be surprised when you pretend sexual perversion is gaiety?

The self-deception that sexual perverts walk in simply demonstrates how damning self-deception really is.

Look in the mirror buddy and quit lying to yourself.

[santitos2001]

this guy thinks that gay people haven't inhabit earth for longer than 5000 years? and we will continue to live in this earth cause ur God made us! Deal with it, but don't think we are gonna stay shut and let another Matthew Sheppard case happen, we are tired of dealing with ignorant people like him, illuminate yourself, don't judge and let people do whatever they want, remember that salvation is a personal thing. Maybe you could avoid the killing of you own sons.

[DJSNuva1]

Warren looks like an idiot in this vid

[karloffornia13]

What an effing liar!

[bitherwack]

Warren looks like he's just been crying in that last half of this clip.

[bitherwack]

Turn the sound down on the final half of this clip, and you see a very sad man. I see deep sadness around the eyes and mouth. What does this mean?

[freesoul2005]

Lying religous nuts

[ecoherbalism]

haha wtf? creepy...