Well done Martin - the air is acting on the upper curved surface of the wings "just like an upside down aircraft wing" and the smoke clearly shows this - upwash to the car is downwash to the plane - did I hear Bernoulli mentioned? But I think wind tunnels need to be much bigger or the car affects the test conditions, rather than the other way round, in my opinion.
The air represented in this video is exactly what Adrian Newey sees,. he sees the air JUST like that; no other aerodynamicist sees airflow like Adrian Newey. Now he just needs to go back to McLaren. :D
Don't mean to pick, but the suction of the low pressure air PLUS the mass and speed of the air that has been deflected in the upwards direction is causing the downforce. Similar to how a rocket moves, by throwing air.
@mackenzie684 I see, I was more attacking his explanation of negative lift. There tends to be one common explanation " low pressure/ high pressure air" which has been proved to be only half of what is happening to create lift.
@rubnayr oh lol!!! i am saying that martin brundle mentioned " negative lift" that means neegative lift is responsible for downward force :D..... i am not supporting this superM10 :D rather i was supporting ur explanation ! nice one though
@mackenzie684 Wrong . Negative lift isn't responsible for downforce , negative lift or suction is downforce . Its like a vacuum cleaner efect , that sucks car to the asphalt :P
The generation of aerodynamic downforce (force directed downward, or negative lift) and its effect on lateral stability result in a major enhancement in race-car performance, particularly when high-speed turns are involved.
The purpose of downforce is to allow a car to travel faster through a corner by increasing the vertical force on the tires, thus creating more grip.
courtesyWikipedia
so my comment indirectly stated this only.:P try to understand what a person states first
@mackenzie684 Thats exactly my point . I knew everything you said here , cuz im a F1 fan and mechanical enthusiast , so this is kindergarden stuff for me but , P.S. U said exactly what i did , only the long version. Downforce = Negative Lift = Suction
Just a bit of Bernoulli's Principle under the car but thankfully, updraught from the rear wing producing downforce - just like an upside down airplane's wing
Dirty, filthy aerodynamics, tons of drag. They must have excess engine power to waste. I would guess that all those many little bits and gobs protruding everywhere are reactions to a rulebook that hates streamlined design.
@deezynar Aahhh but not just drag ...........drag that causes the most precise and powerfull downforce to stick to the track at speeds that would not be capable if streamlined . Streamliined would indeed have to slow down .
Yes, all the gobs and globs create downforce as a payoff for the drag. My point is that a better written set of rules would allow the makers to clean the cars up and provide even more downforce. It seems that all the teeny bits are there to get around the rules. Of course, the best thing for cutting drag would be to enclose the wheels, but then people would say it's not F-1 any more. Cheers.
Not a mention of vortices? The aspect ratio of the car does not allow it to simply create down force the same way a airplane wing creates lift. The vast majority would have to be vortex induced downforce. Hmmm.
@tullochaustralia This is nonsense, were are you coming from that he was a rubbish F1 driver? He outscored his opponent in 4 out of his 8 seasons in F1! He was beaten during the other seasons only because his teammates consisted of some of the all-time F1 greats, such as Schumacher in 1992 and Hakkinen in 1994! I'm not saying he was also a great but he wasn't rubbish. He's often viewed as the best driver never to have won a race
@dude2106 You are right that diffusion of air means spreading out of the molecules. However, this actually leads to an increase in static pressure. You say yourself that diffusion is when air arrives where there was not much before (i.e low pressure) and fills it (high p). The diffuser technically does not speed up the airflow at all. This is done by the convergence between the road and car floor.
The diffuser is there merely to increase the pressure again in as efficient a manner as possible.
The diffuser basically pulls the turbulant airflow from under the car, smoothing it out into a low pressure. Since there is high pressure at the top of the F1 car (the wing) this pressure tries to pull itself down to the lower pressure, (diffuser) creating a large amount of downforce.
@schumacher500 coming from "schumacher500"..? is that all u could manage from that redneck brain of yours? hmm..funny woulda expected more from someone from the country that spawned the likes of MIT and UCLA.
An expansion of the air creates a pressure increase as the velocity of the air reduces. It is further forward under the floor where the pressure decreases due to a contraction of the air path creating low pressure. The air must then be restored to its original pressure which is what the rear diffuser does (diffusing the air: increasing pressure) and it is the efficiency with which it does this that makes the difference.
@oatcakepastymatt Diffusion of air mean spreading molecules. Look up diffusion, it is basically when molecules arrives into a space where there is a low concentration of it and due to heat it will by it self spread out to cover the whole room evenly (not taking into account the mass of the different molecules).
In the diffuser of a car the air is forced underneath the car and when it hits the diffuser it is spread out into a larger space which will create a low pressure in the diffuser.
2:42 all ten cylinders?? how old is this video?
sotaros93 2 weeks ago
@sotaros93 2005 i think
myuniverse1234 1 week ago
Well done Martin - the air is acting on the upper curved surface of the wings "just like an upside down aircraft wing" and the smoke clearly shows this - upwash to the car is downwash to the plane - did I hear Bernoulli mentioned? But I think wind tunnels need to be much bigger or the car affects the test conditions, rather than the other way round, in my opinion.
Climaticsman 3 weeks ago
7 people are hellen keller
iloveparc 1 month ago
@iloveparc dude that comment is such a fail
racingfan1083 3 weeks ago
Those 6 people just don't know how to turn right... Freaking NASCAR Fans. LOL
FlyingCC 1 month ago
6 people didn't understand what he just explained...
wheelychecker 1 month ago
this is beautiful
redfireblast57 2 months ago
animated smokes?
sanditra1 2 months ago
it's science, not a sport
thornrev 2 months ago
reduce the aero on modern f1 cars by 60% .... the driver input is becoming less and less
steven288 2 months ago
Fake ... Red Bull never get an number 14.
JeeDesign1885 2 months ago
@JeeDesign1885 @JeeDesign1885 They did, In 2009. Don't say things if you're not sure of yourself.
brizay94 2 months ago
@brizay94 xD That was a joke :D
JeeDesign1885 2 months ago
The air represented in this video is exactly what Adrian Newey sees,. he sees the air JUST like that; no other aerodynamicist sees airflow like Adrian Newey. Now he just needs to go back to McLaren. :D
londongamer 2 months ago 4
2:20 IT'S DC!!!!!!!!!! YAY
eminemthebest11 2 months ago
Red Bull number 14..
simoncase 2 months ago
this is really amazing video :)
mackenzie684 2 months ago
fake and gay
EZCOOLBREEZEXx 3 months ago
@EZCOOLBREEZEXx HAHA you fail at trolling! XD
WeLikeWarmIceCream3 2 months ago
Good and understandable video mate ! well done !
KyprosXD 3 months ago
Don't mean to pick, but the suction of the low pressure air PLUS the mass and speed of the air that has been deflected in the upwards direction is causing the downforce. Similar to how a rocket moves, by throwing air.
rubnayr 3 months ago
@rubnayr yea he has already said that " negative lift " is present here which is responsible for the body stability ...
mackenzie684 2 months ago
@mackenzie684 I see, I was more attacking his explanation of negative lift. There tends to be one common explanation " low pressure/ high pressure air" which has been proved to be only half of what is happening to create lift.
rubnayr 2 months ago
@rubnayr oh lol!!! i am saying that martin brundle mentioned " negative lift" that means neegative lift is responsible for downward force :D..... i am not supporting this superM10 :D rather i was supporting ur explanation ! nice one though
mackenzie684 2 months ago
@mackenzie684 Wrong . Negative lift isn't responsible for downforce , negative lift or suction is downforce . Its like a vacuum cleaner efect , that sucks car to the asphalt :P
motanelustelistu 4 days ago
@motanelustelistu
The generation of aerodynamic downforce (force directed downward, or negative lift) and its effect on lateral stability result in a major enhancement in race-car performance, particularly when high-speed turns are involved.
The purpose of downforce is to allow a car to travel faster through a corner by increasing the vertical force on the tires, thus creating more grip.
courtesyWikipedia
so my comment indirectly stated this only.:P try to understand what a person states first
mackenzie684 2 days ago
@mackenzie684 Thats exactly my point . I knew everything you said here , cuz im a F1 fan and mechanical enthusiast , so this is kindergarden stuff for me but , P.S. U said exactly what i did , only the long version. Downforce = Negative Lift = Suction
motanelustelistu 2 days ago
@motanelustelistu OH kool then:)
mackenzie684 2 days ago
@motanelustelistu u need to understand what is negative lift first ..coz in oither terms we call it DOWNFORCE :D
mackenzie684 2 days ago
they should make an f1 car that can instantly switch, so all the air is going down and then... IT FLYS!!!
SuperMl10 3 months ago
@SuperMl10 - You ever seen Mark Webber at Valencia. ;P He already flys. lol
maidenslayer 2 months ago
Bitch please, I've watched Top Gear.
ThexSweden 3 months ago
The air has been used and abused...
jetquiroz 3 months ago
God, now only i understand completely about this thing! im sitting for an exam next week and the spotted question is about this thing.
MegaDyja 3 months ago
david coulthard
youbaboon 3 months ago
Brilliant explanation, hail Martin Brundle
boczarionut1981 3 months ago
Excellent! Thanks!
longfinger 3 months ago
To the guy asking for the song, it's "Mylo - In Your Arms"
georgeprowse 4 months ago
how did They realize the white wind?
TheSIMAKER 4 months ago
Wow, that looks soo simple compared to this year's cars...
mariodidier001 4 months ago
Just a bit of Bernoulli's Principle under the car but thankfully, updraught from the rear wing producing downforce - just like an upside down airplane's wing
Climaticsman 4 months ago
Dirty, filthy aerodynamics, tons of drag. They must have excess engine power to waste. I would guess that all those many little bits and gobs protruding everywhere are reactions to a rulebook that hates streamlined design.
deezynar 4 months ago
@deezynar Aahhh but not just drag ...........drag that causes the most precise and powerfull downforce to stick to the track at speeds that would not be capable if streamlined . Streamliined would indeed have to slow down .
toob247 4 months ago
@toob247
Yes, all the gobs and globs create downforce as a payoff for the drag. My point is that a better written set of rules would allow the makers to clean the cars up and provide even more downforce. It seems that all the teeny bits are there to get around the rules. Of course, the best thing for cutting drag would be to enclose the wheels, but then people would say it's not F-1 any more. Cheers.
deezynar 4 months ago
Tell Martin he needs some down-force on those pants...should call him Harry. :)
spazo567 4 months ago
@spazo567 heheheheh super comment
pjsr1967 4 months ago
Bundle And coulthard commentary
ScuderiaF3rrari 6 months ago
Why is it always the red bulls the use
ScuderiaF3rrari 6 months ago
whats the last song??
cetcheverry 7 months ago
Cant fuck with Martin. He knows his shit.
daniel987878 7 months ago
... when RedBull still sucked :)
However, i almost like more this vid than actual F1
BubuSnow93 7 months ago
I love formula 1. Such a shame I didn't get into it when I was a boy, I would of loved to be behind a racing steering on a regular basis.
LiamOT33 7 months ago
what's the music
227FLY 7 months ago
@227FLY ...In My Arms - Mylo :)
J1M1F 7 months ago
very great explaination..
heliosplane 8 months ago
2 Nascar fans watched this
bmesiasbmesias 8 months ago 2
i would cut my leg off to be able drive one of those than i wouldnt be able to drive it
trema122 8 months ago
it's easier to chase than be chased
operationcwaI789789 8 months ago
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LosInvasoreSconLalo 9 months ago
Martin Brundle is nothing short than a legend, his contribution towards F1 can never be appeciated enough!
Phoenix1664 9 months ago
thumbs up if you smiled when you understood which is the song that is playing. In my arms- Mylo
D4rkst3EL 9 months ago
2 people are airplane pilots!
simobgbgbg 9 months ago 2
Not a mention of vortices? The aspect ratio of the car does not allow it to simply create down force the same way a airplane wing creates lift. The vast majority would have to be vortex induced downforce. Hmmm.
theflyingblues 10 months ago
Extremely helpful in understanding aerodynamics great video.
kimi10fanStuart 11 months ago
bRUNDLE PLEASE SOMETIMES DO FERRARI OR MCLAREN ! DONT STAY ON REDBULL YOUR NOT ASSIGN IN REDBULL
bongnavaro24 1 year ago
why they use fake smoke on this video? maybe they dont won't show us the real aerodynamics into a real wind tunnel!!!
Guss67T 1 year ago
@Guss67T
because that would give other teams a clear view how the air flows
rastamees 1 year ago
@rastamees yes i know, thanks anyway
Guss67T 1 year ago
trousers is very ugly.....But he is fantastic driver...
deptak96 1 year ago
Such a great guy!
phantomloita 1 year ago
i like it
aditarmstrong5791 1 year ago
King Brundle!!!
So glad he will run the BBC commentary team in 2011 and beyond.
He knows exactly how to balance the information to the variety of F1
fans.
goesjem 1 year ago 30
@goesjem not anymore...FUCK YOU SKY
garethkielty 5 months ago 28
@goesjem no longer beyond :/
CJ270494 2 months ago
@goesjem oh no he won't
TheGalwayFarmer 2 months ago
its a shame that the f1 2010 game doesn't have these factors to the game
BrotherYounis 1 year ago
the art of f1 engineering
O:
flamema94 1 year ago
Good video,
Can anybody also tell me, what´s the name of the background song?
Thanks!
kettri123 1 year ago
Thats a brilliant video!
swistral1 1 year ago
its a shame Martin Brundle was a rubbush f1 driver he knows so much about f1 and is shut a good commontator
tullochaustralia 1 year ago
@tullochaustralia This is nonsense, were are you coming from that he was a rubbish F1 driver? He outscored his opponent in 4 out of his 8 seasons in F1! He was beaten during the other seasons only because his teammates consisted of some of the all-time F1 greats, such as Schumacher in 1992 and Hakkinen in 1994! I'm not saying he was also a great but he wasn't rubbish. He's often viewed as the best driver never to have won a race
no1gret 1 year ago
thanks ....
proximer217 1 year ago
@dude2106 You are right that diffusion of air means spreading out of the molecules. However, this actually leads to an increase in static pressure. You say yourself that diffusion is when air arrives where there was not much before (i.e low pressure) and fills it (high p). The diffuser technically does not speed up the airflow at all. This is done by the convergence between the road and car floor.
The diffuser is there merely to increase the pressure again in as efficient a manner as possible.
oatcakepastymatt 1 year ago
The diffuser basically pulls the turbulant airflow from under the car, smoothing it out into a low pressure. Since there is high pressure at the top of the F1 car (the wing) this pressure tries to pull itself down to the lower pressure, (diffuser) creating a large amount of downforce.
entourageLAX 1 year ago
We all need to pay absolute respect to Martin Brundle... definitely a living legend, F1 will be quite boring without him...
hadabenz 1 year ago
why the fuck is this sooo bloody interesting to me????
xdemon123 1 year ago
@xdemon123
cause youre a major cocksucker
schumacher500 1 year ago
@schumacher500 coming from "schumacher500"..? is that all u could manage from that redneck brain of yours? hmm..funny woulda expected more from someone from the country that spawned the likes of MIT and UCLA.
xdemon123 1 year ago
awesome video
565Customz 1 year ago
Superb video! no one explain better than Martin
ohdeardaniel1 1 year ago
An expansion of the air creates a pressure increase as the velocity of the air reduces. It is further forward under the floor where the pressure decreases due to a contraction of the air path creating low pressure. The air must then be restored to its original pressure which is what the rear diffuser does (diffusing the air: increasing pressure) and it is the efficiency with which it does this that makes the difference.
oatcakepastymatt 1 year ago
@oatcakepastymatt Diffusion of air mean spreading molecules. Look up diffusion, it is basically when molecules arrives into a space where there is a low concentration of it and due to heat it will by it self spread out to cover the whole room evenly (not taking into account the mass of the different molecules).
In the diffuser of a car the air is forced underneath the car and when it hits the diffuser it is spread out into a larger space which will create a low pressure in the diffuser.
dude2106 1 year ago
Great Vid!! Now even my girlfriend understands aerodynamic downforce.
Poler777 1 year ago
wicked video
6145822 1 year ago
great vid keep on good work.
shaikhdishgan1 1 year ago
very good vid
TheKimi6 1 year ago 7
@TheKimi6 thanks man..Martin is a living legend!!
kweli25 1 year ago 33
Taught me a lot =)
M1N1K0B3 1 year ago
this is very nice explanation!
petronasracingfan 1 year ago
thanks
kweli25 2 years ago
Nice Vid
bxriver 2 years ago 2