And people who bring up Arabs usually aren't very educated and don't realize that Palestinians are considered Arab (i.e. Palestinian Arabs) because they were culturally and linguistically Arabized after the 7th Century CE. There was no massive immigration of Arabs from the Arabian peninsula to the land of Palestine, the vast majority of Palestinian Arabs are descendants of a mix of indigenous Canaanites, the actual Israelites, the Greeks, etc. just again culturally and linguistically Arabized
The indigenous people of the land of Palestine were the Canaanite peoples, and it has been shown in genetic research by even scientists and geneticists in the state of "Israel" itself that the Palestinians are from among the indigenous people of the land that includes the indigenous Canaanites mixed with the actual Israelites as well. Just look up "Israeli" geneticist Dr. Ariella Oppenheim and writer/historian Ilene Beatty on this. Palestinians are closest to the indigenous people of the land.
Zaatari, in order to establish ur arguments, u will have to publish them in book form, of coarse, subject to academic criteria. Cause this is just a video, it will influence public opinion (a part of it, based on the amount of viewers) but thats it. If u write, ur adversaries/opponents/critics will be compelled to react, again in book form. A young guy like u, regardless of ur political views, is an example of succesful integration of a muslim in the west. We are in need of that.
Mr Sami, after watching your videos and listening to what you have to say, I see that you have done a lot of research But if i can add. your a lil bitch, you crazy 72 virgin lovin towel head. You complain about the USA, well get the hell out of here. Your complaining about the country your in, trust me we can do without you. Last i remember, jews were not blowing up buildings and fighting as civilians like cowards. Joining the air force soon, ill be droppin bombs on your towel head cousins :D
Correction the arabs dont want the land. The muslim arabs and muslim non arabs want the land stolen from them. god damn european racist scum of the earth, those filthy jews of european descent are hypocrites who got their butts kicked historically by other europeans mostly the christians of the pop following kind, they high talied it after yrs of discrimination, now they oppress and kill muslims and christians in a land they are not supposed 2 be in according 2 the bible.
Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit
Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit
Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit
Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit
Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit
Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit
Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit
Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit
Live free from these yard apes and Zionism in our home lands. Step out side of THERE laws and start killing them NOW where ever you may find them in our home lands. THEY (AND ALL ALIKE) MUST DIE!!! Live free from THERE laws and start killing these PIGS!! THEY ARE KILLING OUR PEOPLE EVERDAY. EYE FOR AN EYE!! DEATH TO THEM ALL NOW, AND THOSE ALIKE IS THE ONLY WAY, IT IS THE ONLY TRUE ANSWER!! 14WORDS!!
Ha, i'd forget too. I was just curious, because sometimes i've heard people say it after other prophets, but not as much to make me think it was a "thing" I guess.
For me being an atheist, as soon as I was told that I called bullcrap. Then again, I grew up knowing a Palestinian man who was one of the nicest people i've ever met. There is one thing I don't get, however. I know Palestine existed obviously, but I don't think they actually had thier own country prior to the genocide. Everybody asks me "well if they were a country who was thier leader?" and I can't answer that, anybody want to help me on that part? I like knowing as many aspects as possible.
@TheKenTerry Palestine existed, as Sami pointed out, as a conglomerate of about 10 different nations, if the bible is correct in this regard, or as the land of Canaan(Palestinians=Canaanites). Then the Hebrews acquired the land and named it Israel. Then the Romans acquired it and named it Palestine. Then the Muslims acquired it under the Khilafah of Umar(r) and kept it until Britain captured it in 1917. Then the UN made Israel a state in 1948.
Here is the nation we support; it is the duty of Israel to explain to the public a number of truths, one truth is that there is no Zionism, no settlement and no Jewish state without evacuating Arabs or without expropriating lands and their fencing off!
Israel has made fouls of us, our government, our religions, our beliefs and everything Americans have come to value about themselves and their country.
America, your new manifest destiny is to serve Israel and only Israel.
The claim is s historic and legal. The archaeological record supports the Jewish claim, the historic record, the legal record and even the scientific record. Talking about "occupy peoples land!"
1.75% of the British Mandate Palestine is Jordan
2 80% of Jordanians (colonial invention) are Palestinian
3 Israel gave oil rich Sinai 5X the size of land to Egypt peace, it gave Gaza offered West Bank & Abbas refused!
4 Arabs offered land for peace three times in ten years only to refuse start terror.
Jews were there 1800 years before Islam, they're indigenous to that land. A peer reviewed paper by the American National Academy of Sciences prove that Ashkenazim, Sephardim are indigenous Semites. In fact most Jews are, about 40% of Israelis are of Arab ancestry. Other leading studies published in leading journals by the worlds leading scientists prove this. The historic and legal record confirm this. Some Jews remained continuously in the land for 3300 years continuously.
Why is this such a big problem? Putting both traditions together, both agree that Israel/Palestine was taken over by the children of Abraham. Ishmael fathered by Abraham and Hagar, and Isaac fathered by Abraham and Sarah. 2 half brothers' descendants are fighting over a piece of landt? Why continue a 4000+ year family fued? Mohammed proclaimed the followers of Moses to Muslims. The religions are essentially the same. Why fight now because Sarah was jealous of Hagar's child?
Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit...
its about the quality of your weapons, not the quality of your argument. colonization of other peoples land is a fact of human biology, i doubt there is a single nation on this earth, where the inhabitants are not invaders from another part of the world.
It is difficult to credit any one religion as being True or any one god as being True when there have been so many throughout human history. None appears to have any greater claim to being more credible or reliable than any other. Why Christianity and not Judaism? Why Islam and not Hinduism? Why monotheism and not polytheism? Every position has had its defenders, all as ardent as those in other traditions. They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong. Too Many Gods...
THERE IS A CANCER IN THE BODY OF HUMANITY WITH METASTASES ALL OVER IN THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL WORLD, IN GLOBAL POLITICS, IN GLOBAL MEDIAS, IN THE NATO MILITARY-APPARATUS, AND SO ON - THIS CANCER IS CALLED ZIONISM !
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS TO A BODY THAT HAS CANCER AND IT IS NOT BEING REMOVED !
I WONDER IF THERE IS A HELL DEEP AND DARK ENOUGH WHERE THE SOULS OF THESE DEMONS IN HUMAN FORM WILL BE STUCK AFTER THEY FACE DEATH SOME DAY ?!
SOLIDERS AND COPS SAVE YOUR SOULS - DON'T OBEY THEM !
lol I likes this guy. Everything he said is a fact and will be a fact till the end of times...its just a matter of people who need to start waking up and opening up some books and read instead of listening to the Zionist controlled media....The media will tell you what they want you to hear. Peace out.
You nerd moron, ofcourse jews are not first who lived in Israel, but can you show me where is Canaanites, or Hittites, Jebusite, Amorite??????????????
Well I can show you the jews, and they still exist as a nation. Jews are the oldest nation among those nations who ever lived in Israel and who still exist.
so every piece of land conquered by Fascist Imperialist Islam means its yours right? Well why don't the Jews have the same right to take it back from you thieving savages?
OH right, because your evil Koran only goes one way...
@UmmahYehudiTzion dude did you read the Qur'an? I think not, by the way I did read the bible seeing is I was Christian, so befor you say any thing look at it with open eyes and thing with out a racist attitude! Iam of Native American, So in your way of thinking My people should be killed off just cuz the Christian say otherwise? and by the way Befor WW2 Natives Had a even big'er "Holocaust", My people where all most completely taken off this Earth by Racist's like you!
Sami - you seem to agree it doesn't matter who lived on the land first, so why do all the Arabs hate Israel so much, based upon the claim that "Arabs lived in the land before Israel was established"?
Why can't they just tolerate Israel's existence? The UN itself established Israel after WWII, after all.
You Iranians and the Wahabis are so much responsible for how things are going with palestine... Saw a clip from Hamas Al Aqsa TV the other day... one of your peaceful religious prayers saying Jews, Christians and Communists must be killed. No Iran And Saudi interferance and there would be peace i think. It says in prophecy that Iran will destroy the arabian peninsula and Mecca, possibly nuke it. Then Yeshuah will settle the score with you and yor anti Christ Mahdi... Iran.. Magog..
this guy builds his argument on something the jews supposively say, but they dont say they were there first - they say they were there BEFORE The muslims. And they were. Also, Isaac was born BEFORE Ishmael. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
ALSO - Jews have the last name Canaan too, I know two jews who do.
Sorry, you defeat your own argument Saami the crybaby
Now lets say the palestinians were (theyre not) ancestors of the Philisteans. Then they would have Ghaza Ashkelon and Ashdod.. Thats it! That is all they ever had historically as a people and for a brief time as Ramses III got fed up with their murdering and plundering and sacked them completely... the destroyers of all culture and the best of all liars is what Allah and Islam is according to historical sources and Hadith
Well if the Arabs were there first, then why do so very few have ancestors more than a few generations who are from there... hey even Arafat is an Egyptian Islamist. Migration and territorial pissing is what Allah commands every Muslim to do for the sake of Jihad. The first known real anti semite was Muhammed. As soon as a country is subdued is really just a province in the unholy calliphate.
Common sense: Jews (Jus) have a RIGHT to live in Judea (Jewdea).
Its sad that I have to spell it out for the jew haters here. Arab immigrants from arabia have much, much less right to the holy land than a European / African / Asian / or Arab Jew.
From an ex-zionist for over 6 years, and follower of Jesus Christ, my Lord God and Saviour. Bless you.
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By the prophecy when God does restore the nation of Israel (it is not Russia, Germany, Europe) It is these middle east nations the Israelites will be gathered from.
ISAIAH 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
Assyria is an empire that holds these lands, Egypt is in the southern part of Assyria, Pathros in Egypt, Cush is part of Egypt & just to the south in northern Sudan, Elam in Iraq, Shinar in Iraq, Hamath in Syria. Who & where are descendants of the Israelites and where will they be gathered from? Not the Druid descendants of Europe who call themselves Jews, but.. all of these Arabs from these Arab nations.
Saami raises some interesting points. But, a big area was called Judea years ago.
That means jews and non jewish people both lived on the land as neighbours for maybe a 1000 years. If that is true both sides have a legitimate claim on the land after all, wat is 13 years compared to 1000 years?
Did the jews leave when muslims came to their piece of land? After all, there were no muslims prior the 7th century. When did the jews started to go to Europe and why?
@boowonder888 most jews forced off the land were actually forced out by pagans and christians, not Muslims, in fact Muslims came and even cleaned up the holy site of Jerusalem as the occupants turned into a garbage dump if you believe that!
@secularist12 yes and they weren't the only ones there. and yes, i know it wasn't Muslims who expelled them, Muslims HAVE NEVER EXPELLED JEWS FROM PALESTINE, heck Muslims never expelled anyone from Palestine, Christian or Jew, they were always allowed to stay there and have their places of worship, Muslims CLEANED THE SITE OF THE HOLY MOUNT!
Well you make a claim in your video that the only evidence we have for the Jewish existence in that area is the bible. But we don't need the bible, because we have an historical record from during the Roman times.
And while they were not the only one there, for a period they were the majority. They decided to revolt in the Romans and the Romans crashed them.
@secularist12 no, i said they use the bible to pretend that they were the FIRST and main people on the land, which is 100% false. they weren't the first nothing on the land.
Exactly about 40% of Israeli Jews are of Arab ancestry. Did you know that between 800,000 - 900,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries in the "Jewish Naqba?" Do you know that Arabs still have their property which would be worth billions today? The difference is Israel absorbed them as opposed to the Arabs which used their people as political pawns, not granting them full citizenship and rights, expelling or killing them.
I have a sneaking suspicion Sami will deny science. I know Arabs originate from the Arabian peninsula, and most Jews are Semitic people. I've got the peer review to prove it as well as leading studies by the worlds leading scientists, published in the worlds leading journals they Arabs "Palestinians" certainly have no such claim or comparable scientific proof. It will be dismissed as lies and propaganda. Sad really. I think he preaches to the "choir" if you know what I mean.
"i said they use the bible to pretend that they were the FIRST and main people on the land, which is 100% false." (sic)
Jewish people don't need the bible or any supernatural superstition. There is the historic record, archaeological record, anthropological record and the genetic record. Which overwhelming prove the Jewish case as I'm not even going to bother with the legal case. Why does nothing like this exist for the Arabs Muslims? Please explain?
Anyway, regard the Muslims never prevented anyone from Palestine, if I am not wrong one of the reason for the crusade was that the Muslims prevented from the Christians to commit Pilgrimage.
@secularist12 no, there were a lot of reasons for the crusades, they didn't like jerusalem in the hands of muslims, europe was in turmoil, it was a good way to rally and unite the people in one cause, to free jerusalem for the sake of god and then be granted paradise and rewards, to redeem themselves. also the eastern christian church wanted help against the Muslims, and they called for the crusaders, and the crusaders lol eventually fought the eastern church and took their land. irony.
You are correct the Crusades was a Christian response to Islam, revisionists and the politically correct would like to tell you otherwise. I'm guessing he'll resort to ad hominums or wont be able to prove his case if there is one to be proven at least scientifically unless he sets up logical fallacies which seems to be the case. Sami has clearly never heard of in 1012, Caliph Al Hakim he ordered to the Non-Muslims in Palestine either “to embrace Islam”- or leave the land.
Muslims used synagogues as latrines & stables, decimated Jewish graves & other holy places. Research Arab massacres of Jews pre-48. Under Islamic rule Jews weren't allowed to pray freely at some holy sites. Under Israeli control all can worship freely. This is all verifiable. Jews were there 1800 years before Islam, had a sovereign kingdom there for 400 years. Islam was only there in total 700 years. There was a continuous Jewish presence for 3300 years in Israel unlike Islam!
@boowonder888 - I'm of the opinion that it is the Abrahamic religions themselves that are fueling the longevity if this issue. Hate and mistrust is so ingrained in both sides...This is a pattern repeated in nearly all of the worlds long standing disputes. How can you be wrong if your whole world is built on being right!
It is no other way to do than today regarding the Palestinians... As muslims they cry out ever so often to murder all Jews and Christians all according to Islam and the unholy muhammed. Just consider the ungratitude the palestinians showed the Christian state of lebanon who gave then refuge. They and their Islamic allies ethnically clensed areas of christians and slaughtered them.. Another Christian nation caved in under Islam.. What you get for helping Muslims. Every Islamist is the Dajjal.
Whats more shameful is that the same people who accuse Muslims of being brainwashed by the Quran to commit murder support Biblical/Torahic fairy tales about how a magical skydaddy promised certain people a piece of land and only they can live on it and those living on it already can be exterminated...and these irreligious seculars western support this bullshyt never challenging or mocking this religious myths as they do with Muslims and Islam...hypocrisy stinks!
@iviewthetube not shocking at all, for sane people, they will know that these are simply the victims in their anger, what do you expect the victim to do, send rainbows and roses to their occupying oppressor? dream on.
@iviewthetube were talking about current events and palestine, why is it when you zionists get cornered you jump to another argument and start bringing up some other historical events? you posted a video which is not shocking at all, it's merely an occupied people lashing out against their oppressors who occupy them and bar them from having their freedom and own nationhood. and when this fact is mentioned, you say ohhh what about madinah, yeah, what about it? has nothing to do with this.
I am not happy about the situation there either. But I listen to some Arab Muslims and they are bent on destroying Jews no matter what they do short of joining Islam. From my perspective what the Jews are doing is mostly self defense.
There are 61 islamic states 20 arabs states and only 1 jewish state
It seems to me that it is only fair that Israel remains there. And quite being so fricken greedy.
@iviewthetube an occupier can't be in self defence, just go watch noam chomsky on that, no matter how many times you say it, the one who is occupying and denying the freedom and statehood of another people are not in self defence, they are the aggressors, and the ones in self defence are the palestinian arabs who demand their freedom.
Chomsky is insane. He is a fulltime professional USA and Israel hater. Unbelievable somebody gets actually paid to hate USA and Israel.
The palestinians cannot claim the land of Israel as it has never been their country to begin with. The Turks and the English have more rights as they once actually owned the land.
The Jews of Medina is relavent because had that not happened then most everyone would be working with a lot more trust.
Sadly,leave it to some religions to perpetuate grudges that can last 1400 years or more. This all makes it really difficult to come up with compassionate solutions.
@SamiZaatari re:'those guys are oppressed what do you expect them to do?'
OK, but it still doesn't convince me that they'd come up with a system which is more just, more kind, more equitable, and more accomodating to those of all different beliefs,
@iviewthetube and btw, here is the actual facts, you try to scare people with that video, but the facts are clear for everyone to see, israel has killed far more palestinians, and israel has killed far more children, so that's the big irony, your trying to show ohhhh the palestinians are the big evil ones with that video when in fact it's israel who has killed more innocent palestinians, and killed more children in this conflict. oh the irony. everyone knows who the real terrorists are.
@SamiZaatari I remember when I fell for the Zionist lies. It took my Lord Jesus to show me truth. Any other Christians out there, feel free to pm me and I will be more than happy to share with you what He showed me. For almost 20 years I was decieved by the so-called 'Christian' pulpits of "man." When I went to the Word myself my eyes were opened. You need to know who those are that Jesus speaks of in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. SaiZaatari speaks truth concerning 'Arab Isrealites.'
@iviewthetube facts are facts no matter how much silly propaganda you try to spread, it's one nation occupying another people, and the one occupying with their checkpoints and illegal settlements is israel, the one closing borders, controlling the air space, and sea is israel. the one who refuses to grant a people their freedom and right to their own country is israel. israel is the occupier, but typical of the occupier you try to make the occupied to be the bad guy! nobody buys that crap.
@iviewthetube if your heart was with them, you should still be with them as a few videos on youtube doesn't change the reality of what was happening that made your heart with them.
Ha, ha, YouTube videos did reinforce some opinions. I think most of my disdain with Islamic militants came about the time of the Luxor Massacre November 17, 1997 and also with the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamiyan in 2001. This and others demonstrated a total contempt for the humanities.
@SamiZaatari It seems to me that these problems started way before the occupation.
The first Arab sponsored terrorist attack upon Jews occurred in 1920, long before the establishment of Israel. In 1929 Arab mobs massacred over 100 Jews, 67 of them in 1929 Hebron massacre.
Like I said, it seems to me that a good part of the Jewish reaction is merely self-defense.
Top that off with the hatred of Jews I hear on your channel -- I am convinced. Many of you guys are brainwashed at a very early age.
In fact many jews ran from Europe before WW2 in time of pogroms in Russia, Poland and Ukraine.
Then Jews ran from Europe when hitler became a leader of Germany, they were refugees, they came to Israel powerless... After Holocaust UN proposed to jews and arabs to create 2 states for 2 peoples, jews said OK, arabs said Fuck ye and started killing jews, jews kicked their ass but still giving them aid and all human rights.
Judea was renamed Palestina by the Romans after the second Jewish revolt to blot out its memory & insult the Jewish people. Ironically, it was Jews that were "Palestinians" (or those that were citizens during the Mandate). The name referred to a region never a nation state. Original Palestinians were sea people from Asia minor/Aegean Islands long since extinct not generic desert Arabs. "Occupy" what, Sami - Gaza, West Bank was it occupied when Jordan or Egypt had it, no!
Israel is an anti-semite fascist regime. They're persecuting the Palestinian semites and persecuting the True Jews who are promoting the cornerstone of Judaism, "Thou shalt NOT kill."
The zionists think they are God. That's why they think God gave someone else's land to them. Zionists gave that land to themselves after driving out the natives.
Do they honestly think God would break His own law of "Thou shalt NOT steal?"
@yoOoOoOoOoOoQ The video you posted about takfir on Assad: the speaker was referring to the Alawites who view Ali as their God. But you say "most Iranians are not Muslim, they are Shia". You just made takfir on tens of millions of your fellow Muslims since they are Twelvers who don't view Ali as their God, they only view Ali as their Caliph, and Muhammad as the messenger and ALLAH is their God. They can visit Mecca like the rest of the Muslims, even ibn Taymiyyah did not call all of them kuffar.
@MsRambolin btw notice this video has nothing to do with shias etc, it's solely on zionists, yet this guy comes here starting intra muslim fitna and arguments, which makes you wonder about muslims like him, they always come to cause division and fitna out of no where.
@93yoyo360 Which sixty one Islamic states are you referring to? Also, Israel could not have won the 1973 war without the advanced weaponry they received from the United States. Israel alone receives more US AID than the entire world combined. Screw you!!
Often I think this phrase is negligently being used for propaganda purposes in regards to the Israeli state issue of "who was here first." Clearly the current Islamic movement is post Mohammed which stems around the year 570 onward.
Most critical historians agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew.
@iviewthetube like sami said in this video the palestinians were there first even though their religion wasn't islam back then, what part of that don't you understand? the palestianian muslims today are the same people who were in the land first.
why does sami always cry? there was jews in medina in the time of muhammed, but muhammed had them killed.the jews have been nice 2 the arabs (muslims) by letting them keep medina and other parts of the arabian peninsula. if the jews wanted 2 get back the jewish lands of medina, we all do that the muslims wouldnt be able 2 do anything about it. the bottom line is who is in it now.as they say, they took ur cookies.if the jews told the muslims 2 open their mouth, the muslims would ask how wide.
Israel s here to stay,we needed some land,we got this,you arabs keep crying about it when you have so much more,or could of had,if we dont have israel what do we have?
If you dont have Israel? ah you guys almost took control over europe,so you dont really need to worry,first the middle east,then Europe,next America?
Really i feel like muslims are my small brothers,Annoying,but i still love them.
See... this is where the problem is. Zionism does not equal = Judaism. Practising Jews are everywhere. Zionists are Jews (culturally, racially) who want a state of their own. When you have Muslims calling Jews Zionists, it's just a cover for their racism, because even American Liberals hate Zionists.
@aveyowyns So a state should be based on culture and race? That's just as bad! The sooner religions, cultures, races, states, etc fade away, the better. I live in hope. :) Judge Judy's magic, isn't she?! I see you're a philospher - ever listened to stefbot?
Where did I say a state SHOULD be based on culture and race? Granted, I do believe a state should be based on culture, just like every single state in the world is.
I do listen to stefbot ... and though I am not a libertarian, I sympathize with some of its values. Stefbot is pretty wise when it comes to economics and politics ... but is religiousity is pretty embarrassing.
@aveyowyns You didn't say a state SHOULD be based on culture and race - until after you said 'Where did I say a state SHOULD be based on culture and race?' !!! (I quote: 'Granted, I do believe a state should be based on culture...') I'm with stefbot on religion, I was brought up Methodist, but... its just a lot of stories. I hope we all eventually leave it behind, with the state and culture and all that. In the words of Sam Cooke: 'What a wonderful it would be.' :)
The Jews were there during the Roman time long long after the "biblical time " and we don't need the bible for this but there are secular historical record for this.
I don't know what make you to think that there is need for a fictional book like the bible to know this,
I like the arguments you use. Most people arguing against Israel just use biased arguments like calling them "terrorists", "occupants" and such without any good explanation. I like when people can use logic to explain their views. But what is your suggestion for a solution to the conflict? What is it then that needs to be done in order to obtain peace there in your opinion?
@unlyckystrike Biased arguments? You don't know what you are talking about. The nations of the earth united in the United Nations are the ones who call Israel an occupier, because Israel did actually occupy someone elses land and it continues until today (44 years of occupation and counting).
@MsRambolin Give me a break. Every country is occupied. Take for instance islam, it has occupied more than 47 countries during the last 1400 years. Why don't you whine about that? Why is it that you only whine when the jews do it? Muslims and christians have been busy occupying the entire globe for centuries. So please stop this hypocritical nonsense. If you're ought to whine about 'occupation' you got to take into context ALL occupation, not only the jewish one. Or else you're a hypocrite.
@unlyckystrike Islam is a religion. I can hardly see how it can "occupy" a country. You mean a religion can materialize and grow legs and start walking around ?
@idricool Ok, so what is a religion without the followers? A religion cease to exist the same moment the last follower cease to exist, doesn't it. Conclusion = religion is its scriptures/dogmas and its followers, thus with one of the ingredients missing, there are no more religion.. So when religion is its followers, why is it then so hard to comprehend that a religion can invade countries, occupy them etc.?
@unlyckystrike A religion is not a person. It doesn't invade. You're using a begging the question fallacy. Here's some English lessons...
Invasion : "The act of invading, especially the entrance of an armed force into a territory to conquer."
Muslims invaded and helped free the Jews persecuted by Eastern Romans.
When Islam came to Jerusalem, no one was forced to adopt the religion. Therefore there is no such things as an invasion by religion. The goal was not to forcefully convert.
@idricool Liar. Under the official "islamic expansion" all the non-abrahamic people the muslims met got the option of converting or to get killed. Jews and christians were considered as "people of the book" so they got the option of converting or accepting dhimmitude, that's called "blackmailing". However there were plenty of jews and christians whom got killed anyway. So don't give me this nonsense. Islam was spread with violence and threaths, and this is why it occupy so many countries.
@idricool How can I take you serious when you first of all not understand how a religon or ideology can be responsible for actions, and second that you now doubt that islam was spread by the sword? And if you never have heard about the islamic expansion, which is a well documented historical fact, then I guess conversing with you is quite futile. May I suggest you start educating yourself a bit? For instance you could begin with trying to google the words "islamic conquest" or "muslim conquest"
@unlyckystrike Did Muslims go to war with Christians ? Yes, and Atheists Communists went to war with Christian Nazis and left millions of people dead.
However, slam was not spread by the wrod. Did some Muslim forcefully convert non Muslims ? Probably. But there was no Caliph that order that and it surely did not happen in masses.
If it did happen, Why is there a Christian Church older than the mosque in Damascus the oldest city in the world and a Syrian city ? Explain that.
@unlyckystrike Google ? You mean take information from anti muslim sites like islamwatch ?
Do you understand that when you say documented and you cannot even mention a historian or an archeological fact supporting your statements, you sound totally ignorant.
You made the claim, YOU HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF. Which Historian living at the time said it, Where are the archeological findings ? The depictions of forced conversions ? Where are they.
There are however forced conversions by Christians
@idricool Like wikipedia with its lelated sources perhaps..? There are no islamic scollars on this planet denying this historical fact. Quite on the contrary they are very proud of this period of islamic conquest. Are you claiming to know more about islam and its history than those? Why do you think they always speak about the islamic "ummah" and the "caliphate"? Do you even know what the words mean? I never said that the only wars carried out through history were motivated by islam, or did I?
If you read the Bible, there were already people living in the land of Canaan before the Israelites came along. The first order from "god" once the Israelites came out of Egypt was "to go into the land of Canaan and kill everyone living there, and take the land for your inheritance.". So yes, part of the problem is that Jews think they have a "divine" right to that territory. Make no mistake, it IS a religious issue. I just wish that Palestine and Israel could co-exist in peace.
@TempleOfInanna2 God promised the land to the seed of Ibrahim, who uphold his religion, and there is no need for me to go into the history of what happened to the seed of Isac, or the children of Israel, as I'm sure you're already aware. They were exiled many times, because they took on false gods(i.e. Ba'al) and many other abominations, which the Bible is riddled with. In other words, they broke the covenant with God, and formed a new tribal religion, called Judaism, named after Judah.
@TempleOfInanna2 So even the religious claim is false, because God is the one who threw them out of the Holy Land, not so to the seed of Ismael. But the 'Jews' will deny the inheritance of Ismael, because it doesn't suit them. Again, according to them, they're chosen, and can't do any wrong, only God and the rest of the world, are in error.
@Bushwackk Well, I think the whole religious feud is petty to say the least. I do not think that the words in someone's holy book entitles them to any land, or that a certain people are god's "favorites". It clearly appears that this "god" is something thought up by men, at least in my eyes. If people could just co-exist under the simple banner that we are all human beings and stop using superstition as a crutch, alot of this nonsense would cease. But hey, what do I know?
@TempleOfInanna2 If you're suggesting that a pencil has more purpose than a human being's life, then i'll have to pass on your presumptions and stick to the what is staring and blaring at us, and doesn't require much thought, however you're more than welcome to argue against your very own reality. And if you're going to suggest that humanity's purpose is to become worm food, then you're going to be in for a big shock, once your aether body separates from your physical one.
@Bushwackk "If your'e suggesting that humanity's purpose is to become worm food, then your going to be in for a big shock." I don't know about purpose, but that is what happens according to evidence. Any further speculation is faith. Who knows if life continues after death? The dead can't talk. There could be a god or some divine purpose, I don't rule out the possiblity. That being said, all religions think they are correct. They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong :)
@TempleOfInanna2 Well, you're facilitated with a faculty of reason, and logic for a purpose. You can do your own research on religion, before inadequately "fact finding", and dismissing them all as "lacking evidence". The evidence is all round you, your lack of understanding of your purpose, and selective information, is the problem, not the "lack of evidence". When someone says there is no evidence for God, what they're really saying is, "I lack understanding of what God is".
@Bushwackk "Well, you're facilitated with a faculty of reason, and logic for a purpose. You can do your own research on religion, before inadequately "fact finding", and dismissing them all as "lacking evidence". I agree 100%, and I have done that. Spent the past decade of my life studying world religions and mythology, even the long dead ones of Sumeria/Persia/Greece, etc. I am always careful to weigh evidence. Just because old writings state something, doesn't mean it's true.
And people who bring up Arabs usually aren't very educated and don't realize that Palestinians are considered Arab (i.e. Palestinian Arabs) because they were culturally and linguistically Arabized after the 7th Century CE. There was no massive immigration of Arabs from the Arabian peninsula to the land of Palestine, the vast majority of Palestinian Arabs are descendants of a mix of indigenous Canaanites, the actual Israelites, the Greeks, etc. just again culturally and linguistically Arabized
vikingsfan4410 5 days ago
The indigenous people of the land of Palestine were the Canaanite peoples, and it has been shown in genetic research by even scientists and geneticists in the state of "Israel" itself that the Palestinians are from among the indigenous people of the land that includes the indigenous Canaanites mixed with the actual Israelites as well. Just look up "Israeli" geneticist Dr. Ariella Oppenheim and writer/historian Ilene Beatty on this. Palestinians are closest to the indigenous people of the land.
vikingsfan4410 5 days ago
Zaatari, in order to establish ur arguments, u will have to publish them in book form, of coarse, subject to academic criteria. Cause this is just a video, it will influence public opinion (a part of it, based on the amount of viewers) but thats it. If u write, ur adversaries/opponents/critics will be compelled to react, again in book form. A young guy like u, regardless of ur political views, is an example of succesful integration of a muslim in the west. We are in need of that.
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Very good video again :)
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Mr Sami, after watching your videos and listening to what you have to say, I see that you have done a lot of research But if i can add. your a lil bitch, you crazy 72 virgin lovin towel head. You complain about the USA, well get the hell out of here. Your complaining about the country your in, trust me we can do without you. Last i remember, jews were not blowing up buildings and fighting as civilians like cowards. Joining the air force soon, ill be droppin bombs on your towel head cousins :D
juliosblog 1 month ago
hippie hair
juliosblog 1 month ago
why do arabs want the land?
ktrigg2 1 month ago
Correction the arabs dont want the land. The muslim arabs and muslim non arabs want the land stolen from them. god damn european racist scum of the earth, those filthy jews of european descent are hypocrites who got their butts kicked historically by other europeans mostly the christians of the pop following kind, they high talied it after yrs of discrimination, now they oppress and kill muslims and christians in a land they are not supposed 2 be in according 2 the bible.
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Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit
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Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit
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Live free from these yard apes and Zionism in our home lands. Step out side of THERE laws and start killing them NOW where ever you may find them in our home lands. THEY (AND ALL ALIKE) MUST DIE!!! Live free from THERE laws and start killing these PIGS!! THEY ARE KILLING OUR PEOPLE EVERDAY. EYE FOR AN EYE!! DEATH TO THEM ALL NOW, AND THOSE ALIKE IS THE ONLY WAY, IT IS THE ONLY TRUE ANSWER!! 14WORDS!!
dbdclyde 2 months ago
Lol at the ads.
Nice video, akhi.
JabrilAbdullah 2 months ago
Not all Americans are "rednecks". Thats like me saying "Those Arab, "towel head", "terrorists".
zombiekill551 2 months ago
@zombiekill551 ;) i am american too.
SamiZaatari 2 months ago
@SamiZaatari
Sami you are not on your own land either.
You need to get the fuck out of USA and take your Islam with you.
PrinzeEugene 2 months ago
@PrinzeEugene Uhhh he probably bought a house or is renting one, ect. Didn't use force to come to the us or was born here.... Durrrrrrr.
johnnyblaze6661 2 months ago
Also, another question. Do you say "Peace be upon him" with only Muhammad? Or with all people you deem prophets?
TheKenTerry 3 months ago
@TheKenTerry with all, but most of the time when i don't say pbuh after saying isaac ishmael or abraham is because i'm pronouncing them in english.
SamiZaatari 3 months ago 2
@SamiZaatari
Interesting. Is English that dirty? haha...wouldn't blame ya.
TheKenTerry 3 months ago
@TheKenTerry lol no, but it's just different, anyways others say pbuh even when they say the english name, i just tend to forget etc.
SamiZaatari 3 months ago
@SamiZaatari
Ha, i'd forget too. I was just curious, because sometimes i've heard people say it after other prophets, but not as much to make me think it was a "thing" I guess.
TheKenTerry 3 months ago
For me being an atheist, as soon as I was told that I called bullcrap. Then again, I grew up knowing a Palestinian man who was one of the nicest people i've ever met. There is one thing I don't get, however. I know Palestine existed obviously, but I don't think they actually had thier own country prior to the genocide. Everybody asks me "well if they were a country who was thier leader?" and I can't answer that, anybody want to help me on that part? I like knowing as many aspects as possible.
TheKenTerry 3 months ago
@TheKenTerry Palestine existed, as Sami pointed out, as a conglomerate of about 10 different nations, if the bible is correct in this regard, or as the land of Canaan(Palestinians=Canaanites). Then the Hebrews acquired the land and named it Israel. Then the Romans acquired it and named it Palestine. Then the Muslims acquired it under the Khilafah of Umar(r) and kept it until Britain captured it in 1917. Then the UN made Israel a state in 1948.
I think that's the history of it, if I'm correct.
JabrilAbdullah 2 months ago
Here is the nation we support; it is the duty of Israel to explain to the public a number of truths, one truth is that there is no Zionism, no settlement and no Jewish state without evacuating Arabs or without expropriating lands and their fencing off!
Israel has made fouls of us, our government, our religions, our beliefs and everything Americans have come to value about themselves and their country.
America, your new manifest destiny is to serve Israel and only Israel.
So help you God.
extra222love 3 months ago
They don't know what to say and put 67 dislike.
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Ikhlaus4Islam 3 months ago
The claim is s historic and legal. The archaeological record supports the Jewish claim, the historic record, the legal record and even the scientific record. Talking about "occupy peoples land!"
1.75% of the British Mandate Palestine is Jordan
2 80% of Jordanians (colonial invention) are Palestinian
3 Israel gave oil rich Sinai 5X the size of land to Egypt peace, it gave Gaza offered West Bank & Abbas refused!
4 Arabs offered land for peace three times in ten years only to refuse start terror.
ByTheShortAndCurlies 3 months ago
Jews were there 1800 years before Islam, they're indigenous to that land. A peer reviewed paper by the American National Academy of Sciences prove that Ashkenazim, Sephardim are indigenous Semites. In fact most Jews are, about 40% of Israelis are of Arab ancestry. Other leading studies published in leading journals by the worlds leading scientists prove this. The historic and legal record confirm this. Some Jews remained continuously in the land for 3300 years continuously.
ByTheShortAndCurlies 3 months ago
Why is this such a big problem? Putting both traditions together, both agree that Israel/Palestine was taken over by the children of Abraham. Ishmael fathered by Abraham and Hagar, and Isaac fathered by Abraham and Sarah. 2 half brothers' descendants are fighting over a piece of landt? Why continue a 4000+ year family fued? Mohammed proclaimed the followers of Moses to Muslims. The religions are essentially the same. Why fight now because Sarah was jealous of Hagar's child?
aaronlee75 3 months ago
Who cares...historical claims mean shit...Native American Indians have a historical claim to the land we call America and they are not getting it back at all...on the contrary, they were forced to live in reservation...so fuck all these Jews claiming shit...
InfoRoom 3 months ago 13
its about the quality of your weapons, not the quality of your argument. colonization of other peoples land is a fact of human biology, i doubt there is a single nation on this earth, where the inhabitants are not invaders from another part of the world.
unsaltedPENUTS 2 months ago
@InfoRoom
according to your logic then, fuck all these palestinians claiming shit too...
bywukime 2 months ago
PLEASE watch these informative documentaries....
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Jewish Man Exposes Israel's Lies
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The Zionist Story (REAL!)
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by the way, there are a lot of Jewish atheist who are Jews first!
thirdeyewise2 3 months ago
It is difficult to credit any one religion as being True or any one god as being True when there have been so many throughout human history. None appears to have any greater claim to being more credible or reliable than any other. Why Christianity and not Judaism? Why Islam and not Hinduism? Why monotheism and not polytheism? Every position has had its defenders, all as ardent as those in other traditions. They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong. Too Many Gods...
Dethoxfu 3 months ago
@Dethoxfu Hah. I love your comment.
Alenthas 2 months ago
YOU were on the land first? You actually mean to say you are over TWO THOUSAND years old? My god, you look great for someone of two millenia! :D
TheSizzlingWeasel 3 months ago
Zaatari is professional speaker. I love this guy lol
MuslimRationalizer 3 months ago
@WhenDreamsTouchFire y u MADbro?
ndntakeover24 3 months ago
if it's all about facts, I say "Read Wikipedia" :P. (I always said that eventhough it's about games, etc)
KNOWNMuslim001 3 months ago
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THERE IS A CANCER IN THE BODY OF HUMANITY WITH METASTASES ALL OVER IN THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL WORLD, IN GLOBAL POLITICS, IN GLOBAL MEDIAS, IN THE NATO MILITARY-APPARATUS, AND SO ON - THIS CANCER IS CALLED ZIONISM !
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS TO A BODY THAT HAS CANCER AND IT IS NOT BEING REMOVED !
I WONDER IF THERE IS A HELL DEEP AND DARK ENOUGH WHERE THE SOULS OF THESE DEMONS IN HUMAN FORM WILL BE STUCK AFTER THEY FACE DEATH SOME DAY ?!
SOLIDERS AND COPS SAVE YOUR SOULS - DON'T OBEY THEM !
shabrour 4 months ago
lol I likes this guy. Everything he said is a fact and will be a fact till the end of times...its just a matter of people who need to start waking up and opening up some books and read instead of listening to the Zionist controlled media....The media will tell you what they want you to hear. Peace out.
walidbako 4 months ago
how much chatter...
You nerd moron, ofcourse jews are not first who lived in Israel, but can you show me where is Canaanites, or Hittites, Jebusite, Amorite??????????????
Well I can show you the jews, and they still exist as a nation. Jews are the oldest nation among those nations who ever lived in Israel and who still exist.
Goordull 4 months ago
so every piece of land conquered by Fascist Imperialist Islam means its yours right? Well why don't the Jews have the same right to take it back from you thieving savages?
OH right, because your evil Koran only goes one way...
UmmahYehudiTzion 4 months ago
@UmmahYehudiTzion dude did you read the Qur'an? I think not, by the way I did read the bible seeing is I was Christian, so befor you say any thing look at it with open eyes and thing with out a racist attitude! Iam of Native American, So in your way of thinking My people should be killed off just cuz the Christian say otherwise? and by the way Befor WW2 Natives Had a even big'er "Holocaust", My people where all most completely taken off this Earth by Racist's like you!
sgforlife88 4 months ago
Sami - you seem to agree it doesn't matter who lived on the land first, so why do all the Arabs hate Israel so much, based upon the claim that "Arabs lived in the land before Israel was established"?
Why can't they just tolerate Israel's existence? The UN itself established Israel after WWII, after all.
superdog797 4 months ago
You Iranians and the Wahabis are so much responsible for how things are going with palestine... Saw a clip from Hamas Al Aqsa TV the other day... one of your peaceful religious prayers saying Jews, Christians and Communists must be killed. No Iran And Saudi interferance and there would be peace i think. It says in prophecy that Iran will destroy the arabian peninsula and Mecca, possibly nuke it. Then Yeshuah will settle the score with you and yor anti Christ Mahdi... Iran.. Magog..
matereo 4 months ago
this guy builds his argument on something the jews supposively say, but they dont say they were there first - they say they were there BEFORE The muslims. And they were. Also, Isaac was born BEFORE Ishmael. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
ALSO - Jews have the last name Canaan too, I know two jews who do.
Sorry, you defeat your own argument Saami the crybaby
Niceguyreally 4 months ago
What a folly!
Ismael is NOT the father of the Arabs. There are about 2670 years between Mohamed and Ismael and these are not accounted for in any lineage.
Ismaelite tribes most likely disappeared around the 7th century BC.
So the argument fails completely.
killer4hire 4 months ago
Now lets say the palestinians were (theyre not) ancestors of the Philisteans. Then they would have Ghaza Ashkelon and Ashdod.. Thats it! That is all they ever had historically as a people and for a brief time as Ramses III got fed up with their murdering and plundering and sacked them completely... the destroyers of all culture and the best of all liars is what Allah and Islam is according to historical sources and Hadith
matereo 4 months ago
Well if the Arabs were there first, then why do so very few have ancestors more than a few generations who are from there... hey even Arafat is an Egyptian Islamist. Migration and territorial pissing is what Allah commands every Muslim to do for the sake of Jihad. The first known real anti semite was Muhammed. As soon as a country is subdued is really just a province in the unholy calliphate.
matereo 4 months ago
Common sense: Jews (Jus) have a RIGHT to live in Judea (Jewdea).
Its sad that I have to spell it out for the jew haters here. Arab immigrants from arabia have much, much less right to the holy land than a European / African / Asian / or Arab Jew.
Niceguyreally 4 months ago
From an ex-zionist for over 6 years, and follower of Jesus Christ, my Lord God and Saviour. Bless you.
Pt 1
By the prophecy when God does restore the nation of Israel (it is not Russia, Germany, Europe) It is these middle east nations the Israelites will be gathered from.
CrimsonRunnerToJesus 4 months ago
Pt 2
ISAIAH 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
CrimsonRunnerToJesus 4 months ago
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Assyria is an empire that holds these lands, Egypt is in the southern part of Assyria, Pathros in Egypt, Cush is part of Egypt & just to the south in northern Sudan, Elam in Iraq, Shinar in Iraq, Hamath in Syria. Who & where are descendants of the Israelites and where will they be gathered from? Not the Druid descendants of Europe who call themselves Jews, but.. all of these Arabs from these Arab nations.
CrimsonRunnerToJesus 4 months ago
Saami raises some interesting points. But, a big area was called Judea years ago.
That means jews and non jewish people both lived on the land as neighbours for maybe a 1000 years. If that is true both sides have a legitimate claim on the land after all, wat is 13 years compared to 1000 years?
Did the jews leave when muslims came to their piece of land? After all, there were no muslims prior the 7th century. When did the jews started to go to Europe and why?
boowonder888 4 months ago
@boowonder888 most jews forced off the land were actually forced out by pagans and christians, not Muslims, in fact Muslims came and even cleaned up the holy site of Jerusalem as the occupants turned into a garbage dump if you believe that!
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@SamiZaatari "" most jews forced off the land were actually forced out by pagans and christians, not Muslims""
What year was this and why were they forced out?
boowonder888 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari It was not the Muslims who expelled them.
It was the Romans.
But they were there during part of the Romans times, and we have historical record for this.
secularist12 4 months ago
@secularist12 yes and they weren't the only ones there. and yes, i know it wasn't Muslims who expelled them, Muslims HAVE NEVER EXPELLED JEWS FROM PALESTINE, heck Muslims never expelled anyone from Palestine, Christian or Jew, they were always allowed to stay there and have their places of worship, Muslims CLEANED THE SITE OF THE HOLY MOUNT!
SamiZaatari 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari
Well you make a claim in your video that the only evidence we have for the Jewish existence in that area is the bible. But we don't need the bible, because we have an historical record from during the Roman times.
And while they were not the only one there, for a period they were the majority. They decided to revolt in the Romans and the Romans crashed them.
secularist12 4 months ago
@secularist12 no, i said they use the bible to pretend that they were the FIRST and main people on the land, which is 100% false. they weren't the first nothing on the land.
SamiZaatari 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari
Not first, but before the Arabs.
They has been there until the Roman crashed them.
The Arabs came in the 7 centuries.
And that has nothing to do with the bible, only historical record that there is no debate about them.
secularist12 4 months ago
@secularist12 again wrong, many arabs living on that land are descendants of the caananites. arabs are not from saudi arabia only!
SamiZaatari 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari some of them maybe, majority of them are Arabs.
However you can google it and learn it.
The Arab occupation of the middle east and north Africa was involve in massive immigration.
And yes, Arabs track their root to Saudi Arabia.
secularist12 4 months ago
@secularist12 arabs don't track their roots back to saudi arabia, plz don't talk crap, and i am arab telling you this.
SamiZaatari 4 months ago
@secularist12
Many Jews descended from Arabia. Read the history of the Kabaa.
mut3aman 4 months ago
@mut3aman
Exactly about 40% of Israeli Jews are of Arab ancestry. Did you know that between 800,000 - 900,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries in the "Jewish Naqba?" Do you know that Arabs still have their property which would be worth billions today? The difference is Israel absorbed them as opposed to the Arabs which used their people as political pawns, not granting them full citizenship and rights, expelling or killing them.
ByTheShortAndCurlies 3 months ago
@secularist12
I have a sneaking suspicion Sami will deny science. I know Arabs originate from the Arabian peninsula, and most Jews are Semitic people. I've got the peer review to prove it as well as leading studies by the worlds leading scientists, published in the worlds leading journals they Arabs "Palestinians" certainly have no such claim or comparable scientific proof. It will be dismissed as lies and propaganda. Sad really. I think he preaches to the "choir" if you know what I mean.
ByTheShortAndCurlies 3 months ago
@SamiZaatari
"i said they use the bible to pretend that they were the FIRST and main people on the land, which is 100% false." (sic)
Jewish people don't need the bible or any supernatural superstition. There is the historic record, archaeological record, anthropological record and the genetic record. Which overwhelming prove the Jewish case as I'm not even going to bother with the legal case. Why does nothing like this exist for the Arabs Muslims? Please explain?
ByTheShortAndCurlies 3 months ago
@secularist12
Anyway, regard the Muslims never prevented anyone from Palestine, if I am not wrong one of the reason for the crusade was that the Muslims prevented from the Christians to commit Pilgrimage.
secularist12 4 months ago
@secularist12 no, there were a lot of reasons for the crusades, they didn't like jerusalem in the hands of muslims, europe was in turmoil, it was a good way to rally and unite the people in one cause, to free jerusalem for the sake of god and then be granted paradise and rewards, to redeem themselves. also the eastern christian church wanted help against the Muslims, and they called for the crusaders, and the crusaders lol eventually fought the eastern church and took their land. irony.
SamiZaatari 4 months ago
@secularist12
You are correct the Crusades was a Christian response to Islam, revisionists and the politically correct would like to tell you otherwise. I'm guessing he'll resort to ad hominums or wont be able to prove his case if there is one to be proven at least scientifically unless he sets up logical fallacies which seems to be the case. Sami has clearly never heard of in 1012, Caliph Al Hakim he ordered to the Non-Muslims in Palestine either “to embrace Islam”- or leave the land.
ByTheShortAndCurlies 3 months ago
@SamiZaatari
Muslims used synagogues as latrines & stables, decimated Jewish graves & other holy places. Research Arab massacres of Jews pre-48. Under Islamic rule Jews weren't allowed to pray freely at some holy sites. Under Israeli control all can worship freely. This is all verifiable. Jews were there 1800 years before Islam, had a sovereign kingdom there for 400 years. Islam was only there in total 700 years. There was a continuous Jewish presence for 3300 years in Israel unlike Islam!
ByTheShortAndCurlies 3 months ago
@boowonder888 - I'm of the opinion that it is the Abrahamic religions themselves that are fueling the longevity if this issue. Hate and mistrust is so ingrained in both sides...This is a pattern repeated in nearly all of the worlds long standing disputes. How can you be wrong if your whole world is built on being right!
rogan71 4 months ago
@rogan71 The answer to all this will not come from religion. But the history of it can be part of a sollution.
boowonder888 4 months ago
It is no other way to do than today regarding the Palestinians... As muslims they cry out ever so often to murder all Jews and Christians all according to Islam and the unholy muhammed. Just consider the ungratitude the palestinians showed the Christian state of lebanon who gave then refuge. They and their Islamic allies ethnically clensed areas of christians and slaughtered them.. Another Christian nation caved in under Islam.. What you get for helping Muslims. Every Islamist is the Dajjal.
matereo 4 months ago
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matereo 4 months ago
Are you a suicide bomber . Does your wife wear a tent as clothing . .
0019josh7100 4 months ago
Whats more shameful is that the same people who accuse Muslims of being brainwashed by the Quran to commit murder support Biblical/Torahic fairy tales about how a magical skydaddy promised certain people a piece of land and only they can live on it and those living on it already can be exterminated...and these irreligious seculars western support this bullshyt never challenging or mocking this religious myths as they do with Muslims and Islam...hypocrisy stinks!
time0is0a0myth 4 months ago
Is Zionist propaganda anywhere near as bad as this?
watch?v=7Gzyeo1Z1I4
iviewthetube 4 months ago
@iviewthetube not shocking at all, for sane people, they will know that these are simply the victims in their anger, what do you expect the victim to do, send rainbows and roses to their occupying oppressor? dream on.
SamiZaatari 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari
Oppressors?
Then What Happened to the Jews of Medina?
iviewthetube 4 months ago
@iviewthetube were talking about current events and palestine, why is it when you zionists get cornered you jump to another argument and start bringing up some other historical events? you posted a video which is not shocking at all, it's merely an occupied people lashing out against their oppressors who occupy them and bar them from having their freedom and own nationhood. and when this fact is mentioned, you say ohhh what about madinah, yeah, what about it? has nothing to do with this.
SamiZaatari 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari
I am not happy about the situation there either. But I listen to some Arab Muslims and they are bent on destroying Jews no matter what they do short of joining Islam. From my perspective what the Jews are doing is mostly self defense.
There are 61 islamic states 20 arabs states and only 1 jewish state
It seems to me that it is only fair that Israel remains there. And quite being so fricken greedy.
iviewthetube 4 months ago
@iviewthetube an occupier can't be in self defence, just go watch noam chomsky on that, no matter how many times you say it, the one who is occupying and denying the freedom and statehood of another people are not in self defence, they are the aggressors, and the ones in self defence are the palestinian arabs who demand their freedom.
SamiZaatari 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari
Chomsky is insane. He is a fulltime professional USA and Israel hater. Unbelievable somebody gets actually paid to hate USA and Israel.
The palestinians cannot claim the land of Israel as it has never been their country to begin with. The Turks and the English have more rights as they once actually owned the land.
killer4hire 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari
The Jews of Medina is relavent because had that not happened then most everyone would be working with a lot more trust.
Sadly,leave it to some religions to perpetuate grudges that can last 1400 years or more. This all makes it really difficult to come up with compassionate solutions.
iviewthetube 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari re:'those guys are oppressed what do you expect them to do?'
OK, but it still doesn't convince me that they'd come up with a system which is more just, more kind, more equitable, and more accomodating to those of all different beliefs,
iviewthetube 4 months ago
@iviewthetube and btw, here is the actual facts, you try to scare people with that video, but the facts are clear for everyone to see, israel has killed far more palestinians, and israel has killed far more children, so that's the big irony, your trying to show ohhhh the palestinians are the big evil ones with that video when in fact it's israel who has killed more innocent palestinians, and killed more children in this conflict. oh the irony. everyone knows who the real terrorists are.
SamiZaatari 4 months ago 3
@SamiZaatari I remember when I fell for the Zionist lies. It took my Lord Jesus to show me truth. Any other Christians out there, feel free to pm me and I will be more than happy to share with you what He showed me. For almost 20 years I was decieved by the so-called 'Christian' pulpits of "man." When I went to the Word myself my eyes were opened. You need to know who those are that Jesus speaks of in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. SaiZaatari speaks truth concerning 'Arab Isrealites.'
CrimsonRunnerToJesus 4 months ago
@iviewthetube facts are facts no matter how much silly propaganda you try to spread, it's one nation occupying another people, and the one occupying with their checkpoints and illegal settlements is israel, the one closing borders, controlling the air space, and sea is israel. the one who refuses to grant a people their freedom and right to their own country is israel. israel is the occupier, but typical of the occupier you try to make the occupied to be the bad guy! nobody buys that crap.
SamiZaatari 4 months ago 7
@SamiZaatari Propaganda?
My heart was with the Palestinians until I saw the sick, crap propaganda they were putting out.
Here is another one: watch?v=vxZbwGmBQV8
iviewthetube 4 months ago
@iviewthetube if your heart was with them, you should still be with them as a few videos on youtube doesn't change the reality of what was happening that made your heart with them.
SamiZaatari 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari
Ha, ha, YouTube videos did reinforce some opinions. I think most of my disdain with Islamic militants came about the time of the Luxor Massacre November 17, 1997 and also with the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamiyan in 2001. This and others demonstrated a total contempt for the humanities.
iviewthetube 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari It seems to me that these problems started way before the occupation.
The first Arab sponsored terrorist attack upon Jews occurred in 1920, long before the establishment of Israel. In 1929 Arab mobs massacred over 100 Jews, 67 of them in 1929 Hebron massacre.
Like I said, it seems to me that a good part of the Jewish reaction is merely self-defense.
Top that off with the hatred of Jews I hear on your channel -- I am convinced. Many of you guys are brainwashed at a very early age.
iviewthetube 4 months ago
nobody stupid asshole like you buys that crap.
In fact many jews ran from Europe before WW2 in time of pogroms in Russia, Poland and Ukraine.
Then Jews ran from Europe when hitler became a leader of Germany, they were refugees, they came to Israel powerless... After Holocaust UN proposed to jews and arabs to create 2 states for 2 peoples, jews said OK, arabs said Fuck ye and started killing jews, jews kicked their ass but still giving them aid and all human rights.
Goordull 4 months ago
BTW, 75% of area wich called "Palestine" is covered by JORDAN.
State wich was founded in 1946.
Where is protests against occupation and other bullshit??? Is this propaganda too, am I invented it?
Goordull 4 months ago
@SamiZaatari
Judea was renamed Palestina by the Romans after the second Jewish revolt to blot out its memory & insult the Jewish people. Ironically, it was Jews that were "Palestinians" (or those that were citizens during the Mandate). The name referred to a region never a nation state. Original Palestinians were sea people from Asia minor/Aegean Islands long since extinct not generic desert Arabs. "Occupy" what, Sami - Gaza, West Bank was it occupied when Jordan or Egypt had it, no!
ByTheShortAndCurlies 3 months ago
Israel is an anti-semite fascist regime. They're persecuting the Palestinian semites and persecuting the True Jews who are promoting the cornerstone of Judaism, "Thou shalt NOT kill."
eastariel 4 months ago
The zionists think they are God. That's why they think God gave someone else's land to them. Zionists gave that land to themselves after driving out the natives.
Do they honestly think God would break His own law of "Thou shalt NOT steal?"
eastariel 4 months ago
@WhenDreamsTouchFire UMAD ?? :D
dont b mad :) dont b madBRO
ndntakeover24 4 months ago
@WhenDreamsTouchFire UmadBro?:D
ndntakeover24 4 months ago
why does he sound so pissed off? lol
ndntakeover24 4 months ago
get over it
ndntakeover24 4 months ago
I agree, we could use a lot more critical thinking.
matthewtaylorbrown 4 months ago
@yoOoOoOoOoOoQ The video you posted about takfir on Assad: the speaker was referring to the Alawites who view Ali as their God. But you say "most Iranians are not Muslim, they are Shia". You just made takfir on tens of millions of your fellow Muslims since they are Twelvers who don't view Ali as their God, they only view Ali as their Caliph, and Muhammad as the messenger and ALLAH is their God. They can visit Mecca like the rest of the Muslims, even ibn Taymiyyah did not call all of them kuffar.
MsRambolin 4 months ago
@MsRambolin btw notice this video has nothing to do with shias etc, it's solely on zionists, yet this guy comes here starting intra muslim fitna and arguments, which makes you wonder about muslims like him, they always come to cause division and fitna out of no where.
SamiZaatari 4 months ago
Sami, there's no use trying talk sense into these guys. Israelis are victims of lifelong brainwashing, you can only feel pity for them.
DrWatsonPostmortem 4 months ago
61 islamic states
20 arabs states
1 jewish state
arabs lost 4 major wars.
couldnt destroy israel
screw you
93yoyo360 4 months ago
@93yoyo360 Which sixty one Islamic states are you referring to? Also, Israel could not have won the 1973 war without the advanced weaponry they received from the United States. Israel alone receives more US AID than the entire world combined. Screw you!!
MsRambolin 4 months ago
"Jesus was a Muslim"
Often I think this phrase is negligently being used for propaganda purposes in regards to the Israeli state issue of "who was here first." Clearly the current Islamic movement is post Mohammed which stems around the year 570 onward.
Most critical historians agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew.
iviewthetube 4 months ago
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freedomwolve 4 months ago
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@iviewthetube like sami said in this video the palestinians were there first even though their religion wasn't islam back then, what part of that don't you understand? the palestianian muslims today are the same people who were in the land first.
freedomwolve 4 months ago
You need to shave your mustache, but spare the beard.
7ar15 4 months ago
This is just plain old antisemitic.
PrezLeefun 4 months ago
why does sami always cry? there was jews in medina in the time of muhammed, but muhammed had them killed.the jews have been nice 2 the arabs (muslims) by letting them keep medina and other parts of the arabian peninsula. if the jews wanted 2 get back the jewish lands of medina, we all do that the muslims wouldnt be able 2 do anything about it. the bottom line is who is in it now.as they say, they took ur cookies.if the jews told the muslims 2 open their mouth, the muslims would ask how wide.
kelvinocd21 4 months ago
Israel s here to stay,we needed some land,we got this,you arabs keep crying about it when you have so much more,or could of had,if we dont have israel what do we have?
If you dont have Israel? ah you guys almost took control over europe,so you dont really need to worry,first the middle east,then Europe,next America?
Really i feel like muslims are my small brothers,Annoying,but i still love them.
ewqdsacxzdsaewq 4 months ago
Palestine cause is a biggest scam of the world.
If you are following one religion one allah, why don;t any Muslim land give access to them ??
ontra1 4 months ago
Wow that's one great argument... waiting for the second video... this is going to be helpfull
tahboobi 4 months ago
Fuck Zionist cocksucking pigs...
truebeliever786 4 months ago
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no more wars for israel.
kublaikhan35 4 months ago 2
If the Zionists and Palestinians would only get rid of their dumb superstitions (Judaism, Islam), there's be no trouble at all.
namecyber 4 months ago
@namecyber
See... this is where the problem is. Zionism does not equal = Judaism. Practising Jews are everywhere. Zionists are Jews (culturally, racially) who want a state of their own. When you have Muslims calling Jews Zionists, it's just a cover for their racism, because even American Liberals hate Zionists.
aveyowyns 4 months ago
@aveyowyns So a state should be based on culture and race? That's just as bad! The sooner religions, cultures, races, states, etc fade away, the better. I live in hope. :) Judge Judy's magic, isn't she?! I see you're a philospher - ever listened to stefbot?
namecyber 3 months ago
@namecyber
Where did I say a state SHOULD be based on culture and race? Granted, I do believe a state should be based on culture, just like every single state in the world is.
I do listen to stefbot ... and though I am not a libertarian, I sympathize with some of its values. Stefbot is pretty wise when it comes to economics and politics ... but is religiousity is pretty embarrassing.
aveyowyns 3 months ago
@aveyowyns You didn't say a state SHOULD be based on culture and race - until after you said 'Where did I say a state SHOULD be based on culture and race?' !!! (I quote: 'Granted, I do believe a state should be based on culture...') I'm with stefbot on religion, I was brought up Methodist, but... its just a lot of stories. I hope we all eventually leave it behind, with the state and culture and all that. In the words of Sam Cooke: 'What a wonderful it would be.' :)
namecyber 3 months ago
Every ethnic group should have the right to exist and the right to a homeland. Palestinians included.
yoshobbit 4 months ago 2
@yoshobbit
And so are Jews.
problem is that more than Palestinians want their homeland they want the destruction of Israel.
secularist12 4 months ago
5:19 Yes it is !!!!
liquidus2172 4 months ago
I'd like to know what atheist, considers the bible to be a reliable historical document.
6Untitled9 4 months ago
@6Untitled9 the ones who wilfully accept the zionist claim that they were the already based on the bible.
SamiZaatari 4 months ago 5
@SamiZaatari
The Jews were there during the Roman time long long after the "biblical time " and we don't need the bible for this but there are secular historical record for this.
I don't know what make you to think that there is need for a fictional book like the bible to know this,
secularist12 4 months ago
I like the arguments you use. Most people arguing against Israel just use biased arguments like calling them "terrorists", "occupants" and such without any good explanation. I like when people can use logic to explain their views. But what is your suggestion for a solution to the conflict? What is it then that needs to be done in order to obtain peace there in your opinion?
unlyckystrike 4 months ago
@unlyckystrike Biased arguments? You don't know what you are talking about. The nations of the earth united in the United Nations are the ones who call Israel an occupier, because Israel did actually occupy someone elses land and it continues until today (44 years of occupation and counting).
MsRambolin 4 months ago
@MsRambolin Give me a break. Every country is occupied. Take for instance islam, it has occupied more than 47 countries during the last 1400 years. Why don't you whine about that? Why is it that you only whine when the jews do it? Muslims and christians have been busy occupying the entire globe for centuries. So please stop this hypocritical nonsense. If you're ought to whine about 'occupation' you got to take into context ALL occupation, not only the jewish one. Or else you're a hypocrite.
unlyckystrike 4 months ago
@unlyckystrike Islam is a religion. I can hardly see how it can "occupy" a country. You mean a religion can materialize and grow legs and start walking around ?
idricool 4 months ago
@idricool Please tell me you're kidding me.
unlyckystrike 4 months ago
@unlyckystrike You're the one that has to explain how can a religion take a human form and take over a country.
idricool 4 months ago
@idricool Ok, so what is a religion without the followers? A religion cease to exist the same moment the last follower cease to exist, doesn't it. Conclusion = religion is its scriptures/dogmas and its followers, thus with one of the ingredients missing, there are no more religion.. So when religion is its followers, why is it then so hard to comprehend that a religion can invade countries, occupy them etc.?
unlyckystrike 4 months ago
@unlyckystrike A religion is not a person. It doesn't invade. You're using a begging the question fallacy. Here's some English lessons...
Invasion : "The act of invading, especially the entrance of an armed force into a territory to conquer."
Muslims invaded and helped free the Jews persecuted by Eastern Romans.
When Islam came to Jerusalem, no one was forced to adopt the religion. Therefore there is no such things as an invasion by religion. The goal was not to forcefully convert.
idricool 4 months ago
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unlyckystrike 4 months ago
@idricool Liar. Under the official "islamic expansion" all the non-abrahamic people the muslims met got the option of converting or to get killed. Jews and christians were considered as "people of the book" so they got the option of converting or accepting dhimmitude, that's called "blackmailing". However there were plenty of jews and christians whom got killed anyway. So don't give me this nonsense. Islam was spread with violence and threaths, and this is why it occupy so many countries.
unlyckystrike 4 months ago
@unlyckystrike How can you explain the presence of old churches in the Muslim world like in Syria. A Church in Damascus older than the Mosque there ?
Official Islamic expansion ? What you meant they were using Facebook or something ?
Where did you read that Islam was spread by the sword ? What book ?
There is no way for you to know unless a historian (living at THAT TIME) claims so, or there are archeological proof of Christian or Jews massacre.
Did you know Crusaders killed Jews ?
idricool 4 months ago
@idricool How can I take you serious when you first of all not understand how a religon or ideology can be responsible for actions, and second that you now doubt that islam was spread by the sword? And if you never have heard about the islamic expansion, which is a well documented historical fact, then I guess conversing with you is quite futile. May I suggest you start educating yourself a bit? For instance you could begin with trying to google the words "islamic conquest" or "muslim conquest"
unlyckystrike 4 months ago
@unlyckystrike Did Muslims go to war with Christians ? Yes, and Atheists Communists went to war with Christian Nazis and left millions of people dead.
However, slam was not spread by the wrod. Did some Muslim forcefully convert non Muslims ? Probably. But there was no Caliph that order that and it surely did not happen in masses.
If it did happen, Why is there a Christian Church older than the mosque in Damascus the oldest city in the world and a Syrian city ? Explain that.
idricool 4 months ago
@unlyckystrike Google ? You mean take information from anti muslim sites like islamwatch ?
Do you understand that when you say documented and you cannot even mention a historian or an archeological fact supporting your statements, you sound totally ignorant.
You made the claim, YOU HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF. Which Historian living at the time said it, Where are the archeological findings ? The depictions of forced conversions ? Where are they.
There are however forced conversions by Christians
idricool 4 months ago
@idricool Like wikipedia with its lelated sources perhaps..? There are no islamic scollars on this planet denying this historical fact. Quite on the contrary they are very proud of this period of islamic conquest. Are you claiming to know more about islam and its history than those? Why do you think they always speak about the islamic "ummah" and the "caliphate"? Do you even know what the words mean? I never said that the only wars carried out through history were motivated by islam, or did I?
unlyckystrike 4 months ago
We were there first behind other people.
tudungsenduk 4 months ago
If you read the Bible, there were already people living in the land of Canaan before the Israelites came along. The first order from "god" once the Israelites came out of Egypt was "to go into the land of Canaan and kill everyone living there, and take the land for your inheritance.". So yes, part of the problem is that Jews think they have a "divine" right to that territory. Make no mistake, it IS a religious issue. I just wish that Palestine and Israel could co-exist in peace.
TempleOfInanna2 4 months ago
@TempleOfInanna2 God promised the land to the seed of Ibrahim, who uphold his religion, and there is no need for me to go into the history of what happened to the seed of Isac, or the children of Israel, as I'm sure you're already aware. They were exiled many times, because they took on false gods(i.e. Ba'al) and many other abominations, which the Bible is riddled with. In other words, they broke the covenant with God, and formed a new tribal religion, called Judaism, named after Judah.
Bushwackk 4 months ago
@TempleOfInanna2 So even the religious claim is false, because God is the one who threw them out of the Holy Land, not so to the seed of Ismael. But the 'Jews' will deny the inheritance of Ismael, because it doesn't suit them. Again, according to them, they're chosen, and can't do any wrong, only God and the rest of the world, are in error.
Bushwackk 4 months ago
@Bushwackk Well, I think the whole religious feud is petty to say the least. I do not think that the words in someone's holy book entitles them to any land, or that a certain people are god's "favorites". It clearly appears that this "god" is something thought up by men, at least in my eyes. If people could just co-exist under the simple banner that we are all human beings and stop using superstition as a crutch, alot of this nonsense would cease. But hey, what do I know?
TempleOfInanna2 4 months ago
@TempleOfInanna2 If you're suggesting that a pencil has more purpose than a human being's life, then i'll have to pass on your presumptions and stick to the what is staring and blaring at us, and doesn't require much thought, however you're more than welcome to argue against your very own reality. And if you're going to suggest that humanity's purpose is to become worm food, then you're going to be in for a big shock, once your aether body separates from your physical one.
Bushwackk 4 months ago
@Bushwackk "If your'e suggesting that humanity's purpose is to become worm food, then your going to be in for a big shock." I don't know about purpose, but that is what happens according to evidence. Any further speculation is faith. Who knows if life continues after death? The dead can't talk. There could be a god or some divine purpose, I don't rule out the possiblity. That being said, all religions think they are correct. They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong :)
TempleOfInanna2 4 months ago
@TempleOfInanna2 Well, you're facilitated with a faculty of reason, and logic for a purpose. You can do your own research on religion, before inadequately "fact finding", and dismissing them all as "lacking evidence". The evidence is all round you, your lack of understanding of your purpose, and selective information, is the problem, not the "lack of evidence". When someone says there is no evidence for God, what they're really saying is, "I lack understanding of what God is".
Bushwackk 4 months ago
@Bushwackk "Well, you're facilitated with a faculty of reason, and logic for a purpose. You can do your own research on religion, before inadequately "fact finding", and dismissing them all as "lacking evidence". I agree 100%, and I have done that. Spent the past decade of my life studying world religions and mythology, even the long dead ones of Sumeria/Persia/Greece, etc. I am always careful to weigh evidence. Just because old writings state something, doesn't mean it's true.
TempleOfInanna2 4 months ago