The Appearance of Hillary's Win in Pennsylvania

[sploogersmoof]

awhile ago, a couple greek,arab, and indian guys got together and created this wonderful thing called math. math, in all its infinite wisdom, is telling us hillary will never win at this point. it is impossable for her to win. just facts people, and even if she did win, polls show she would lose in november. those same polls show obama winning both.

[rocketman10owen]

hard to win a nomination

if he shows softness and don't punch back like kerry, he won't win the nomination

he needs to learn how to hit hard like clinton

[putittogether]

Democrats are the same as Republicans they both don't give a shit about you. And the

Young Turks...well just a bunch of socialist, whom despise freedom, and the fruits of your labor. They are to lazy and self important to get off there ass's and help a poor person help themselves. They want some politician to do it for them. Bunch of cowards and careless men.

[beckpod1]

sorry most americans are sheep...no other way to explain it...the media sets the standards.

[DonSimonBolivar]

OMG just imagine Hillary Clinton for four years. lol Omg hearing that voice will drive all of us crazy lol At least Obama is energetic and can speak, he's young and people love him. Hillary goes of and she isn't her own boss. She is just like McCain using Mccains scare tactics. COME ON PEOPLE ARE WE NOT TIRED OF CORP. INTEREST. SHE TOOK MONEY FROM LOBBIEST. TIRED OF THE SAME FACES? MCCAIN IS OLD GOD DAMN!

[R0SEBUD789]

DonSimonBolivar, OMG, hearing Obama's voice for four years would drive ME crazy. It'd be like having a pastor preaching in my living room for 4 long years. First time I ever heard Obama, I thought he was a preacher. Yuck.

[elenora8]

momementum is important when it comes to fund raising .. u can see that with over 10 million in 24 hour 80,000 new contributes

[elenora8]

it appears that the superdelegates are now having doubts if Obama can win in Nov ....even matthews said she could win in aug in obama doesnot turn around..the race is racial now its so obvious 95% of blacks vote for Obama if 95% of the whites voted for Hillary it would already be over

[claytongault]

Of course momentum is important. Momentum is what you need to win the general election and Obama just doesn't have it anymore. He's looking weaker and weaker with each passing day, not being able to close this nomination process and even losing states to Clinton dispite outspending her 3 to 1. It's just amazing how people can't see this - it all just seems like people are in denial about how weak he is.

Hopefully the Democrats will learn from this experience and pick a better candidate in 2012.

[J1Goro]

Turks are idiots. Everyone knows Turks like to live in a state without religion and kill people in other states. They're just mindless robots. Yes they are.

[thankyoufo]

Come on people we know the media likes to manipulate us just like these idiots here. Reporter today like to give opinion and not news. They don't shutup and give the news, they talk down to us as if we don't know what's going on! Like we need there explanations, reason or deductions. Americans need to tune out the media and make there own decisions, let the chips fall where they fall. Stop believing the media hype! Trust me ! the less new you see the more positive you get in life "TRY IT"

[R0SEBUD789]

In 1980, the Democratic Convention was held in New York City, with sitting-President Jimmy Carter challenged for the nomination by Ted Kennedy. Despite Carter having 2,129 delegates to Kennedy's 1,150 (and Carter's 37 states to Kennedy's 12), Kennedy contested the nomination through the convention and actually fought to switch delegates from Carter to himself. Obama-supporter Ted Kennedy fought for the nomination through the convention, despite trailing Carter by roughly ONE THOUSAND delegates.

[5uper5tring]

its going to the supers. appearances of being a more viable candidate in light of new issues that were not present during most of the elections could make a difference.

[leester64]

What does it do? It says she won despite more than 93% blacks voted for Obama!

[sploogersmoof]

she really dident win by a large margin, so in reality her victory is meaningless.

[dustynbones]

If Clinton was to win the Democratic Primary, Obama supporters will not vote for her and McCain will win. The young vote will not vote for her, nor will the White Male. She's been stealing votes and the REPIGZ have crossed over into the Democrat's Primaries in an attempt to put Clinton up against McCain. The REPIGZ already predicted this back in 2004 when Kerry picked Edwards as his running mate. They knew back then Clinton will not win in 2008. Obama will beat McCain, Ron Paul would beat Obama.

[nino0053]

turke khar

[jtilak]

the media is SCARED of being called biased so they end up spreading LIES. they want to be fair to both sides, even if they know one side is completely wrong.

[TheYoungTurks]

Watch the entire show at theyoungturks(.)com

[ferrariModenas]

women can't and should not become presidents, their high level emotions will always interfere with solid judgments in issues

[eavesdroppn]

good point,i think so as well.

[yrwehere4]

FerraiModenas, seriously? That's your argument that women's hormone levels interfere? That's ridiculous. There are many great female leaders in the world as we speak. I'm not a Hilary supporter but surely you have something better than that. One could even argue that a lack of emotional intelligence is what has put us in a very negative position in the world today. (Male btw) I hope you were aiming at sarcasm.

[hannityforpres]

Just my opinion, but I think these guys on Airhead America , if you add up their IQs they wouldnt equal Rush Limbaugh's. As for ratings, Airhead listeners = a few thousand, Rush listeners = Millions.

[parulkarg]

thats because majority of the fathead limbaugh's listeners are hillbilies (which america is full of) NOT elite who listen to this program. Its too hard for them, you and the fathead to grasp whats said here. So keep listening to the radio NOT internet. Thats not your domain. You are in the wrong neighbourhood cracker

[hannityforpres]

I'll just leave Airhead America to you and the 5 other people who listen to it. While I and MILLIONS of others listen to Rush to see whats really happening in the country. I am not a hillbilly---( correct spelling, 2 l's )----didnt go to school, did you?

[parulkarg]

Ok deal. But the idiot that you are, you will keep comming back and replying to me. ANd thats what I want becasue every time you do, you are forced to listen to this program. hahahaha. Oh and I am glad I have a free spellchecker too in flesh and blood, albeit a retarted one.

[hannityforpres]

"retarted" ??? did you mean "retarded"???

[parulkarg]

thats right Mr. free spellchecker.

[Eriktr0n]

So you are saying you get your news from a drugged up, fat, hack of a comedian?

[hannityforpres]

Ummm.... no, I get news from various sources, networks, cable, newspapers.... I get opinions from various sources, one of them Rush Limbaugh, I also listen to opposing views, such as Airhead America, but that I usually consider comedy. Rush is not "fat" , he may be a little overweight, what that has to do with anything, I don't know. You called him "drugged up" , No, I don't think so, he at one time had a problem, but got over it. Do you have no respect for people who overcame drugs?

[nemobad]

how can you respect a hypocrite who demonizes drug users while at the same time, he's doing the exact same thing?

[nemobad]

you forgot racist.

[hannityforpres]

Why is he a racist??

[nemobad]

'how is he racist??'...you can't be serious. the man made a song called 'barack the magic negro'. and he has a history of making racist comments on his shitty show.

[hannityforpres]

You are poorly informed. I have listened to him for almost 20 years, and can't think of a racist comment. First of all, if he made a racist comment, how long would he last, once Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton got ahold of it? Secon, you stated an incorrect fact: He did NOT write "Barack the magic negro" The LA Times called Barack "the nagic negro" and rush put it to music..the point being, making fun of the LA Times for saying something like that.

[stafax]

hannityforpres, you are completely ignorant of what's going on. First off, the number of listeners or viewers someone has doesn't make a person right. Hitler went on the radio and had millions of listeners, with your logic that means he's right.

2nd, Limbaugh pops pills.

3rd, he claims he has great morals and he's doing the right thing, yet he likes to call fellow Americans as enemies because they're liberal and admits he wants riots to start. WWJD?

4th, "operation chaos," you serious?

[hannityforpres]

Where do I start? Im going to ignore the "pill popping" thing, i dont think it proves anything other than hes not perfect. certainly has nothing to do with political views. So he's not the most moral guy in the world. Who in politics is? Clinton? Operation chaos, if you olisten to his show, hes not seriously taking credit for changing election results, it more poking fun at democrats, who in fact did the same thing by voting for McCAIN.

[stafax]

I couldn't go into more depths because of the character limit. But Rush and "operation chaos" is ridiculous. How can you take this man seriously? First, the name. He constantly says "operation chaos" the entire show. He sounds as if he's some comic book villain, it's just nuts. Secondly, he keeps saying this and that is a result of "operation chaos" as if he's taking credit for everything. Don't tell me he's not serious, because he sure sounds like he is, and living in some fantasy world.

[hannityforpres]

He calls democrats "the enemy" mainly in fun also, but he really thinks, as I do, that what the dems want is usually bad for the country. Hitler, whole different story, he was a dictator, and if you didnt listen to him and follow him, you were in big trouble. death or prison. Limbaugh has millions of listeners who CHOOSE to listen. They have other choices, like Airhead america. No contest there.

[stafax]

You haven't proved that just because millions listen to him, that he's right. A lot of those people disagree with him. Just today, he mentioned in between two commercial breaks, that he was going through the people on hold to screen out the people who have a disagreement with him. And guess what, once he got back, he didn't go to the phone lines. Why? Probably because they all had disagreements that they wanted to share. Number of listeners/viewers means nothing, just look at Chris Crocker.

[hannityforpres]

Umm... Of course number of listeners doesnt make anything right. Didnt say that. I said he has lots of listeners simply to point out that there are lots of people who agree with him. Doesnt make anybody right. I dont know about your second point about the liteners, he takes a LOT of calls from people who disagree and even hate him. Today he was talking about organized callers, which he gets. They talk to each other and flood his lines with democrats. it does happen and thats what he was saying.

[stafax]

my point about that is that not all his listeners agree with him.

[hannityforpres]

I would think most listeners agree or they wouldnt listen. of course ther are libs listening, just as I listen to Airhead America once in a while to hear their point of view. I rarely agree with them, but once in a while, yeah. And there are people listening just hoping he says something racist or stupid, "just one slip of the tongue, please" SO THEY CAN "IMUS" HIM.

[stafax]

Regardless, you're original post being their total IQ doesn't equal Rush Limbaugh's IQ, followed by saying their ratings are thousands while Rush's ratings are millions is asinine for plenty of reasons.

[hannityforpres]

Really??? I think my facts are correct. Air America is now and always has been in financial trouble. They have very low ratings. they are kept in business by george soros, a very rich democrat who just gives them money to keep them on the air, and the democatic political action comimittes. They do not have millions of listeners, rush does. these are just facts.

[stafax]

Rush works for a bigger company that can afford the nation-wide broadcasting and media distribution. Rush also brain washes his listeners. He constantly tells his listeners "I am right" with no logic to back up his end, he does one-man debates in which he will point out "liberals are wrong because of..." and jumps to conclusion that conservatives are right without even giving reasoning. A lot of the listeners are elderly people or gullible, who don't see through these bad reasoning tactics.

[hannityforpres]

I am not elderly or gullible. Those who are are global warming believers. Its stupid to say that Rush says "I am right" and we just accept that. Come on, Im not that stupid.

[nemobad]

rush limbaugh is nothing more than a hate monger. his kind thrives off of separation and division.

[hannityforpres]

And Hillary and Obama and the rest of the dems arent? I heard more hate from Obamas pastor than anyone. The dems are always promoting class warfare. if you listen to them , its always about how the "rich" are getting away with everything. "tax the rich" dems are constantly yelling. the top 20% of taxpayers pay 90% of the taxes. how much more do you want? The bottom 20% pay Nothing. ithink we should tax the poor.

[Eriktr0n]

The difference in what Rush says and what Pastor Wright said is, Wright was right about what he said, the rich white 1% of the country control the media and use it as a way to sway public opinion. He was basically saying why should we expect people who are constantly beaten down by the system to turn the other cheek and bless a country that hates them. Rush just spews out right wing propaganda so they will keep paying him so he can demonize drug users and minorities when he is no better.

[hannityforpres]

i think youre wrong about the rich controlling the media. heres why. You have millions listening to Rush, Hannity, Savage, Mark Levin etc....and Fox news...You ALSO have millions watching cnn and the other networks, who bash Bush and the repubs every day, so who are the rich supposedly controlling?

[Eriktr0n]

ALL OF THE MEDIA! I didn't say it's just Fox news, they are just a little more open about it. The fact of the matter is mainstream media doesn't report A LOT of the things that happen in this country and it's all because of special interest groups paying off the people in charge.

[alabasteroldsoul]

Something like 5 corporations control more than 90% of all media outlets. Yes, both Republican and Democratic pundits are given airtime, but that's because neither offer any true threat whatsoever to the entrenched corrupt power structure. You see, they offer you the illusion of choice, when in fact they control the strings of both puppets. Those who refuse to be puppets and threaten the status quo are squelched and marginalized from the get-go (e.g. Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich).

[hannityforpres]

Yes. So whats wrong with that?

[sploogersmoof]

i miss dennis....why did he quit? i mean, i know its impossable for him to win in all due to our corrupt political system, but at least gravel and paul stayed in!

[PrezAlex]

We do tax the poor.

[hannityforpres]

Not enough.

[ProlefeedTV]

George Soros has nothing to do with Air America and never has. Air America is owned by Green Family Media. People like Hannity and Limbaugh conflate Soros into some kind of "invisible hand" financing all things liberal.  Few of their disciples ever bother to check facts.

[hannityforpres]

Do a search, you will find he has supported them, I may have been wrong about how big a contributor he is, but he has contributed some. The point is, they have a small audience.

[Waranle]

Thanx Cenks!

[Chibling]

Very nice analogy

[zhae00]

She just needs to leave already! Period!

[SparklestheClown]

Ok, all of you need to go sit in Ellen's exercise chair!!!!!!! When she wins, you still don't want to give it to her. You are all Obama propaganda folks. If you add Florida, they are tied in real time people votes. The Dems just cannot run their own party, then they cannot run the country. Pay and revote Michigan and Florida.Had the media exposed some of the Obama associations, they would not have gotten the lead.  He stunk in the last debate. Whether we go Dem or Rep. it needs to be competent

[olya02]

...it´s annoying, that´s what it is!!!

[michaelrobert1974]

Annoying and infuriating!!!!

[yrwehere4]

The Hilary Clinton camp and many in media want to drag this out, why? How does she keep managing to move the goal post over and over to define what is successful? I find her dismissive attitude towards those of us who are voting for Obama offensive. Does she think she can insult us over and over and still get our vote when it counts in the general? Even though I'm an Obama supporter I use to respect HC. My patience for her is wearing very thin! She lost her 20% lead in PA for goodness sake.

[michaelrobert1974]

"The Hilary Clinton camp and many in media want to drag this out, why? How does she keep managing to move the goal post over and over to define what is successful? "

That's exactly it. She keeps moving the goal post over and over to justisfy staying in the race. She refuses to drop out gracefully. Good call!!!

[michaelrobert1974]

Hillary Clinton has already claimed she has the popular vote when you add Florida and Michigan. Those two states are not going away and just might be the Achilles heel of Barack Obama. Stop underestimating Hillary Clinton's resources she'll tap to successfully steal the nomination from Barack Obama!

[chufuss]

I fshe "steals" the nomination I will vote for McCain. Or move to Canada

[michaelrobert1974]

"If she 'steals' the nomination I will vote for McCain. Or move to Canada. "--chufuss

Vote John McCain and then remind the DNC every chance you get why you did so!

[Bucksin07]

shrug* and Bush claims we are not in a recession, the economy is just slow. Popular vote of FL and Mi are not included. You can keep bringing up the same pathetic argument but the rules won't change because you will it or she mentions it for nth time. Everybody knows Hillary's win at all cost mentality but she'll do more harm to herself than to Obama. I think her collusion with Repubs like Scaife will slowly but surely destroy her career.

[sambrown80]

It doesn't matter. If she include FL and MI, that will just speed up his chances to reach 2200, the magic number to end all of this. If they don't incldude FL and MI then he just needs to reach 2025. he'll only need 50 to 80 superdelegates for him to get to the goal. she can't force anyone to change anything because the numbers would be met and FL,MI would be seated. She can't win. She's trying to pay her bills thats why she's fundraising. after she pays her bills, she'll leave in june.

[michaelrobert1974]

"She can't win. She's trying to pay her bills that's why she's fundraising. after she pays her bills, she'll leave in June. "

Fascinating! If it's true then Hillary Clinton is even worse than I thought she was. That means she is basically stealing from her contributors.

[michaelrobert1974]

Be carefull. I see this alarming trend to underestimate what Hillary Clinton is capable of doing. She has a lot of resources in the back ground that are not visable for public view.

[sambrown80]

Also, Obama doesn't need PA, Ohio, or FL to win GE. He'll get MI. He'll add SC, VA, Miss, Kansas, Iowa, Colorado, Kansas, LA that counters any need in PA, Ohio, FL. Obama won those states with over 60% victory. If Hillary can argue that she can get swing states like Ohio and PA with only 10% leads, why can't Obama argue for the previous states mentioned with a 20% lead. Democrat's strongest base has always been liberals. Blue collar has always swung back and forth. They're not reliable.

[westphalianprinz]

The thing is you can't win on just liberals alone. You have to have that "blue color" support. Keep in mind that liberalism does offer these people something in terms of economics. The challenge is to get them to vote on their economics and not on social issues. The way you do this (Obama has said this and then effed it up in his explanation of PA voters) is to respect the culture of faith and guns. But you also have to offer really good progressive economic policies.

[sambrown80]

Obama will get the delgate number needed to win (2200), and then will apply MI and FL results in June. Edwards and the other guys will give Obama their delegates making it 47/51 split. Then they will split MI in half asking for a compromise from Hillary since Obama wasn't on the ballot. She'll have to agree because it's a reasonable request. She can't win MI argument. Obama will only need 50 more super delegates. He'll get those before June just by winning states: NC, Oregon, etc.

[sambrown80]

Yes skin color energizes me to vote for Obama. But I didnt vote for Sharpton over Kerry. Obama is a well qualified candidate. He has a clear shot. We're going to run with it. But people forgot, Collin Powell would not have gotten the black vote. blacks would've stayed with Clinton. We are still more loyal to party than to color, unless those bitches steal the nomination. Then it becomes a very different scenario.

[hunterswine]

Perfect! Bullshit! Hillary is all BULLSHIT

[kyeot]

The media has to do there job to create and excuse to hand over the presidency to McCain. The democrats are well aware whats going on, they wont be the first democrats to hand over the presidency. Start looking else where people. Look into Libertarian Mike Gravel, show your discourse and say fuck the two party system.

[look4edmund]

Hillary is really dumb to think she's got momentum and she's going to win. She's highly delusional!

[crazytvfan815]

I think it was Richard Wolfe of Newsweek who said "what very few tides are left have turned"

[hellgiver21]

Yes Wyatt, that's true, but you can't deny the fact that you know black people who are extremely biased toward Obama simply because he's black.

Whether you're white or black though, I think that's a good thing. You' think the very first black president would do all he could to set a good example and keep the door open for his people in the future. I'm sure he'll serve as best he can.

[Otacrack]

I have to agree it's nothing to brag about I mean come on she roughly won by roughly ten percent. If it was a land slide victory say 70% to 80% then I can understand but seriously Hillary should face reality

[subzeromind]

The Klingons I mean republicans would have a field day with Billary.

[sirwolfgang]

Susan McDougal later served time in prison for contempt of court for refusing to answer questions relating to then-Gov. Clinton's role in Whitewater. Three separate inquiries found that insufficient evidence remained to charge the Clintons with criminal conduct in the land deal.[4]

[sirwolfgang]

A New York Times article published during the 1992 U.S. presidential campaign reported that Clinton and his wife had invested in and lost money in the Whitewater development project.[3]

A U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigation did result in convictions against the McDougals for their role in the Whitewater project, but the Clintons themselves were never charged. Bill Clinton's Lt. Governor, Jim Guy Tucker, was also convicted and served time in prison for his role in the fraud.

[sirwolfgang]

Hale also had a history of creating dummy companies, then looting federal funds, such as SBA loans, from them, and allowing them to fail. Only after coming under indictment in 1993 for charges in just such a scheme did Hale make allegations against Clinton.[2]

[sirwolfgang]

David Hale, the source of criminal allegations against President Clinton in the Whitewater affair, claimed in November 1993 that Clinton, while governor of Arkansas, pressured him to provide an illegal $300,000 loan to Susan McDougal, the partner of the Clintons in the Whitewater land deal.[1] This allegation by Hale was questionable, as Hale had not mentioned Clinton in reference to this loan during testimony in the original FBI investigation of the failure of Madison Guaranty in 1989.

[sirwolfgang]

The Whitewater controversy (also called the Whitewater scandal, or often simply Whitewater) was an American political controversy that began with the real estate dealings of Bill and Hillary Clinton and their associates, Jim and Susan McDougal in the Whitewater Development Corporation, a failed business venture in the 1970s and 1980s.

[trajiklastat]

1st comment

what a minute, that's wrong. just like the thought that clinton is going to win 70-85% of the rest of the vote to win the primary

[Frnlam]

Simply put Hillary is scaring the shit out of white people with the help of Fox news.

[rafael28]

*the stupid white people, lol

[WERTY317]

I voted for Obamarama in FL. I have come to the conclussion that he cannot win in Nov. Hill, liar liar sox on fire, can and would. So what do we do. She can win the states she has to. He cannot. I want the dems to win. I will not vote for a Rep and I have run with that party for a state level office. Super Dels. came about for this very reason. We get our ass kick with bozo's in the Nov. election. Wake up.

[vertigate]

WERTY there is something called a Democratic process. Obama has abided by it and the people have overwhelmingly voted for him. If you overturn that you antagonize and probably lose the black vote, youth vote, Obamacans and large parts of the Independent votes. That's not the only problem HRC would face, she's been an antagonizing figure for a long time, and she has a lot more dirt, and real dirt to be thrown at her in the general than Obama has.

[vertigate]

And why exactly can't Obama win. He has made gains where it counts in new voters and Independents and even Republicans. He has brought a massive wave of support to the Dem party, e.g. 2/3rd of new registrations in Kansas were Reps or Independents supporting Obama. He will carry the Dem states, like PA and Calif without a problem. Even shittalker Ed Rendell said so. This argument that he cannot win these states is totally construed by the HRC campaign and it is rejected even by her supporters.

[vertigate]

The primaries are a completely different ballgame than the general elections. And in the general what counts is the ability to attract new voters to the party and that's what Obama has consistently done. He'll even be able ot win purple states and maybe some small red states like that. He is absolutely more electable than HRC, don#t fall for the HRC propaganda. A lie that is repeated over and over is still a lie.

[R0SEBUD789]

vertigate, I live in California, there are entire huge counties that are Republicans (like O.C.), and we have a huge Hispanic populalation (they like McCain and not Obama). We have a Republican governor, and had Reagan before the country did... I'm sure McCain would have a good chance in this state. Don't take it for granted.

[DereckLamar]

Bullshit!

[WERTY317]

All good points, but... he did win all of the Deep South.. and the western states. McCain is from the far west and the deep south will not go Dem period. If you think it will... you are not living in reality. I voted for the man in FL... Not HRC people I'm listening to... it's my own. It was ours to win... still is.

[vertigate]

Eh, WERTY, number one, you never supported Obama, otherwise you wouldn't give him mock names like Obamarama or bozo. Deny it all you want, but you're full of shit on that. Besides that, you didn't make a point for HRC or against Obama. If you agree with my points but dont believe he can carry Deep South, that's fine. I never said he would, but he has a better chance of winning purple and red states. This makes him a better candidate in a general. Be that in the deep south or the midwest. Period!

[vertigate]

The fundamental point you are missing, that primaries and general elections are not comparable at all. HRC won big states based mostly on large core Dem voters who will go Dem anyway. Obama has attracted new voters to the party.

McCain is from Arizona. I don't even know what kind of argument you are trying to spin out of that. Arizona is not exactly the embodiment of the far west. If you think that McCain could carry California, you're living in a parallel universe. Period!

[vertigate]

Obama can and will win all the states he needs in the general in November including the big states PA, NY, Calif, Ohio, FL. He has the ability to attract the key constituencies, i.e. Independents and Republicans and youth voters to accomplish this feat in a general election.

[vertigate]

Gallup daily tracking has Obama leading HRC nationally 50% to 42% for Apr 23. He is doing better against McCain than HRC and beats HRC nationally in the Rasmussen daily trackings. On a state by state basis, he does better as well, beating HRC in states she won, such as the latest poll being published from Nevada. Whatever ratings you look at, be that likeability or trustworthiness or preferred candidate Obama leads HRC. If you're indeed an Obama supporter you'll be happy to hear that.

[BobBarkersLoveChild]

better hope there is no HALO tournament in November.....

unfortunately...the "YOUTH" vote is NOT reliable

[vertigate]

Yea right. We'll take care of halo tournaments. The point is, Obama has been able to inspire and mobilize the youth, thereby making it more reliable. Btw wasn't that one of the complaints of the HRC camp, that the youth vote was TOO reliable in the caucuses?

[ubuibiok]

Well, say what you want too, proof was in the voting. Tell the sheep Blaa Blaa Blaa enough and thay will belive it and repeat it..... We all knew that a state with 88% white to 10% Black voter pool and over 20 point polling lead was a tough nut to crack.

YouTuber's are aware of ChinaGate,(By the way Hillory is at it again, Judicial Watch just filed another FEC complaint today.), but the Majority of Voter in PA are not YouTubers !

He has to change the game and go Tactical. Hit Hard and Fast!!!

[srm8ib4]

The game isn't over until the November election. Superdelegates have already said that although the primaries do play a role in their deciding who to vote for, they are really choosing who they think is going to win in the election in the fall. Keep in mind that voters who have already casted a ballot in the primaries can change their mind, especially having heard the dirt dug up about Obama. That's why it's unreasonable to discount Hillary's momentum.

[Randomambusher]

The game ends in August... convention...

[souljaEXVOTO]

Somebody pour water on her

then DROP THE HOUSE!!!

May her toes curl with defeat.

I'm throwin a big ass party when she loses.

[antoinehjl]

no matter what he weel still win

[DereckLamar]

Hillary needs to win in north carolina

our its over-Bill clinton

[subzeromind]

To answer Mr. Jackson's question. To the popular vote, meh, it will slightly alter the voting and will increase her gains in the coming states. Will it be significant? Unless either messes up, Billary will win what is expected. To the superdelegates, lets be honest, most have already made their minds up and are just waiting to see who gains the decisive edge in order to not alienate the possibility of choosing the wrong future "friend".

[subzeromind]

First haha!

[vertigate]

HRC is on a mushroom trip. She totally lost in PA. She needed a 30 point lead to at least keep her chances of catching up in delegates. She got a measly 10. She is still behind by more than 1.2 mill in the popular vote based on the fact that caucus votes are delegate votes representing 5 to 100 individual votes. Even including FL and MI HRC is still 850,000 behind in the popular vote. I wish the media stopped reporting false popular vote numbers to make this race look more exciting than it is.

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E.g. Iowa reported 940 votes for Obama and 737 for Clinton. I don't think there were a mere 1,600 votes cast in the entire state of Iowa. That's cause these are caucus delegate votes, representing anywhere from 5 to 100 individual votes each. But the media use these false numbers to calculate a 700,000 popular vote lead for Obama. If you apply the minimum factor of 5 to caucuses his lead is over 1.2 mill including PA. Including FL and MI his lead is over 850,000. That's the minimum.

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The only winner from PA is John McCain because expectations have been downplayed so ridiculously for HRC that she will stay in the race now. HRC should drop out and take away the koolaid from her supporters.

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In order to catch up in pledged delegates, she now needs to win 70% of all remaining states. It's absolutely preposterous.

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In 1980, the Democratic Convention was held in New York City, with sitting-President Jimmy Carter challenged for the nomination by Ted Kennedy. Despite Carter having 2,129 delegates to Kennedy's 1,150 (and Carter's 37 states to Kennedy's 12), Kennedy contested the nomination through the convention and actually fought to switch delegates from Carter to himself. Obama-supporter Ted Kennedy fought for the nomination through the convention, despite trailing Carter by roughly ONE THOUSAND delegates.

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In other words, there are other candidates and primary elections in recent history who were much further behind than Hillary (Jesse Jackson), took it to the convention, and weren't told to get out of the race.