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  • Ya! that was in abbotsford, i watched it on the news. It sucks that someone would sue the church :(

  • It makes perfect sense though.

  • hey wat happen at this concert????

  • the reason the floor collapsed was that part of the lighting setup fell and the floor collapsed under it and the people.

    I may be incorrect so im sorry if i am.

  • @sevenththorn what happened was a joist under that section of the floor snapped and so there was nothing supporting the floor so the floor then collapsed 

  • @drummer6boy1 Bro... 3 year old comment.

    You can't possibly imagine the amount of fuck I do not give about what happened in the video.

  • Good job... i like starfield and hillsongs hosanna Great!!!

  • I find accusations of theistic beliefs being irrational to be quite interesting. Most atheists don't realize that a substantial number of well-known, modern philosophers, such as Descartes held the view that atheism was irrational and that the existence of God was one of the 2 or 3 truths that could be known, in his mind, with complete certainty. Interesting observation eh?

  • um........like......the floor didnt collapse

  • edit:

    my prayers to those injured in that incident, and to the band (i know there a little shaken up among other things) and to the churches this affects. and to the manny people who go to a concert there that it may not happen again.

  • ive been to a kutless concert before in that church, ive seen more ppl jumping on that floor. my geuss is the floor was just getting too worn to take the abuse. i know that they have been getting people to stop jumoing, but seriously. how do u get 200 screaming kids so stop jumping at a concert?

  • this looked like an awesome concert from what they got to play.

  • maybe the capacity limit of people for a building was exceeded and could not hold the weight of all those people. There only so much weight the wooden floor structure can resist and they put those signs up for a reason.

  • Is the floor breaking on this video? Are there any videos of it actually happening?

  • amen to that.

  • Starfield is amazing, it was an unforgetable night.

  • Mmkay.. This accident came down to money and I can prove it. I am a carpenter, like jesus was. By code, with 50% STANDING area a floor is deemed high occupancy and therefore needing stronger joists. So, does it make sense to you that it costs WAY more money for stronger floors? When the church was built, someone (probably the pastor) made the decision to add a few more rows of pews to meet low occupancy code and save MONEY, not lives. ACHEMS RAZOR!HA! in your face god!

  • Our God is an awesome God

    He regins.

  • I can't believe that people think that cause this happened there is no God or that he hates this church. BAD THINGS HAPPEN!!! Christians and our concerts are not excluded. But God gave us a choice, and we can chose to praise him that no one got killed or make silly comments like "this proves he doesn't exist". Being a christian does't give you immunity from hard times, it just gives you the strength to endure them and move on.

  • well said.

  • God wasn't a fan of this band.

  • But anyways, you should put central heights church in the video description so everybody knows where it is ;) Then you wont have annoying comments all over the place :p

  • Does anyone know where this concert was held?

    Can someone MSG the name to me? Message me back as soon as you can!

  • abbostford or something like it I am pretty sure it is abbostford

  • its spelled abbotsford

  • God must have had something to do with those lights not falling in , and no one dieing,

    just bc u dont believe, does not mean you can make fun of us. leave your rude comments to your self

  • wtf??nothing happened......??

  • LMAO. so god was watching over these people and made sure noone got killed right? well why wasnt god watching over those three innocent children in Meriritt that were murdered by their own father? you religious nuts need to get a reality check and realize that your so called "god" had nothing to do with this.

  • You're a dumbass. Ignorant and thick headed. Go understand the religion before you criticize retard.

  • who are you to say what God does and doesn't do. we may not understand his choices....but thats because he's GOD. If you were there maybe you would understand more clearly that there were miracles occurring everywhere....i dont need to prove them, the people who experienced the tragedy understand the power that was there that night.

    if youre wondering yes i was there and it is my church.

  • What's your point? You will be sorry on the last day..

  • man this was so crazy,

    one second we're worshipping and the

    next theres a disaster.

  • Yeah.. I was really bummed after i knew everyone made it out alive... This was my first christian concert.. and 1200 people in one room just praising the lord and completly lost in his word.. Just to leave praying everyone made it out alive.

  • It's a good thing no one was killed. It just shows that the laws of physics apply ubiquitously throughout earth; everything is subject to it, and God made sure of it.

  • I just heard at school that that same lady got paralyzed neck down. IT IS HORRIBLE! But GOD has once again showed how great and awesome HE is. Sure, maybe Satan gets God's permission to do horrible things, but God will take these things into HIS hands afterwards and turn them into good things. Even this thing with this injured lady, will eventually turn into a good thing; maybe in some years, but it will turn out! And remember: Satan can't even do a single thing without God's permission.

  • what song were they playing when the floor collapsed?

  • From The Corners Of The Earth

  • thx

  • haha, thats funny!! you really don't know nothing about GOD.

  • That's very presumptuous of you isn't it. Judge not lest ye be judged?

  • I just heard at school that that same lady got paralyzed neck down. IT IS HORRIBLE! But GOD has once again showed how great and awesome HE is. Sure, maybe Satan gets God's permission to do horrible things, but God will take these things into HIS hands afterwards and turn them into good things. Even this thing with this injured lady, will eventually turn into a good thing; maybe in some years, but it will turn out! And remember: Satan can't even do a single thing without God's permission.

  • AMEN !!

  • Sadly I think it was my friends mom, I heard about it too, I just didn't want to ask her, that would be mean

  • amen to that. thankfully it seems that our western culture is moving away further and further away from religious practices. in canada anyway, religious people are the in the minority. once the baby boomer and older generations die off, there will be even less religion in our society. its a very good thing, in my opinion. people need to stop looking for the easy answer all the time. science and physics are what rule this world. not "god".

  • That is simply a matter of perpespective. A real argument recognizes that.

    Clearly this will be our test, not yours. You have no need to waste your own words on it. Please take your spamful comments elsewhere.

  • I love this song. I'm so glad no one was killed in this accident... I'm still praying.

  • . (read Haggai 1:6-11 or any Psalm really) God will use what ever means he so desires to get our attention, remember we are created to glorify him, he is not our bellboy to be called upon when we want something.

    j.

  • I was there, I did go into the basement and help out, so I am not coming at this from an outside or unknowing position, The real question if we are honest with ourselves is who is God and if we have some understanding of who he is and we believe he is truly sovereign over all things (in control) He cause this to happen to get some or all of the peoples attention

    j.

  • pt. 2

    This takes nothing away from the accident itself, I was shocked and speechless when it happened and I pray for all involved that we'd all draw closer to the Almighty God of the Universe, through our Lord Jesus Christ, by His Spirit in power and truth.

    j.

  • my neighbour was their and she fell in the hole!!! she actually was on national T.V.!!! and also somone from my church went and fell in 2!!! and i pray for those who were seriously injured

  • Your the Friend of SS right? (Im not saying her name for privacy reasons) BU (you should know him) told me, If im not mistaken.

    Verg

  • okay. the one thing i'm wondering is if they say there was a moshpit gathering at the begining and well duh..people do tend to jump. why didn't they just say no...like i'm not saying the band should have but like the guards or something...because if there is a basement underneath and then the amount of people on the floor all jumping. and then the vibrations of the floor.then like of course it's easily going to break. it's like punching through a cardboard box..but i'm still praying for everyone

  • I have been to a few events in that church.

    the floor has bounced like a trampoline for years

  • very true, i go to youth and church and all the events there, its funny cuz the night before i was standin in the very same spot throwin chairs around:P

  • You can clearly see that the Lead Singer is actually telling the 'jumpers' to stop, as he looks up and sees the lights swaying, prior to the collapse of the floor..

    I am in a rock band and have seen this effect many times, when lights sway due to the crowd bounce or jumping in unison. It ALSO happens at LARGE rock concerts held in arenas, You can feel the floor bounce, as people start jumping in unison, causing resonance.

  • I Hope everyone has recovered or is recovering without any problems. I am just responding to this "mosh pit" scenario.. 1st, I was not there, but have examined the home video at lenght. 2nd, a "mosh pit" is an area of the dance floor that has been cleared of people and is used as a Slam area, for music enthusists to actually "slam" into each other, not jump up and down in unison. 3rd, the People (about 4~6 rows infrom of the stage, can be seen jumping up and down in unison, Causing the problem.

  • According to the news i heard this morning, they had announced after the song previous to the collapse that everyone needed to stop jumping... it had been a lot more intense, and it's very true that everyone jumping at once is a lot more force then people slamming into each other.

    There must have been some reason/worry though, for them to ask everyone to stop.

    Praying that everyone recovers ok.

  • The way people were explaining this to me, they had a REAL mosh pit going. This doesn't really look like much of a Mosh IMHO. Metal Concerts had moshes that are 100 times more Brutal then this, but I guess its supposed to appeal to a different crowd here....

    Verg

  • well,

    the second song is where all things went nuts.

    we're not backing down no way

    we're finally seeing it clearing

    one body one church one savior

    one call to praise

    hey frmo the corners of -

  • shut up fagot. dont diss the music and the ppl. u have no symphany for the people that fell through like many of my friends and also coulda been me.i was 1 ft away from it. it doesnt matter how intense the mosh pit is, its that everyone was jumping at the same time, thus allowing for a MAJOR amount of stress on the trusses.

  • I'm pretty sure your god wouldn't like you calling people fagots. And remember, Just because I'm an Aethist, doesn't mean I don't care for my 8 friends who fell in. I could give a name for every one of them, but I respect their f\privacy, just like you should be respect the believes of others. I respect your descision in life, i would say that's fair? So why don't you take a cue from your Hypocritical little self, and Shut the Fuck up?

    Verg

  • Does anyone have the full vid of the Floor Collapsing? My friends were there and I wanna see exactly what happened.

    Verg

  • Hey! I have the actual video of the floor collapsing on my account. Come check it out.

  • Pray for the people that fell through... Pray for the people that got injured, and pray for Starfield. This must have been hard for them.

  • What you dont have the actual fall that sucks. I was one of the people who fell and was looking for another perspective. But ya we were lucky that it didnt go worse than it did. We have god to thank for that. I mean three Pews fell into the basement with us. I was pinned under one of them and was trampled. But like we are so fortunate that the pews didnt fall on anyones head and snap their neck. That was a night to remember. Im glad I and all my friends who fell into the basement with me are ok.

  • when you say that the floor collapsed. are you saying that the floor that the singers were on fell through cuz then the singers would have just fell right? or did the floor that the audience was on drop down. and if you could could you post the video of what happened? cuz i'm confused as to what happened.

  • The floor collapsed right before the stage, the area that collapsed was right in front of the singer. Ya none of the band members fell in with us.

  • you fell in too? how are you?

  • the floor right in front of the stage fell where all the fans were gathered. I was one of the people who fell and it was scary.

  • this video made it's way onto global news tonight. if you didnt post it on youtube where it is free for the public, you could have sold it to global for nice coin. Believe me, i'm a freelance videographer. :) I'm just glad eveyone was alright, nobody was killed, and that everying is ok. My prayers are with all those injured or traumatized at this event. anyways, thanks for posting

  • ya i was there to it was scary

  • This was the leading story on CTV news tonight. They showed a video of it actually collapsing from a cell phone camera. Maybe someone will post it on here. Looked really scary.

  • I havent Been able to find that vid. I want to see wat it was like for someone who didnt fall.

  • me and my youth group were there

    thank God nobody died

  • Me and my friend where there, we were some of the people that fell through, felt like we were dreaming until the water lines broke and everyone started screaming. At least we all got out alive!

  • what heck, wheres the video of the floor collapsing. Post that.

  • Thank heaven noeone got hurt! My frind was there and he said it was bad!

  • sorry but people did infact get hurt.

  • Yea, I know that people got hurt. My BEST FRIEND was in the middle and he fell and Dragged an Unconscious girl out of the hole. I was just saying, that I would expect the floor to collapsed from the strain of everyone 'moshing' at a metal concert, where the Moshing is WAY more intense and violent that what you see here.

    Verg

  • Yes, moshing is more intense at a metal concert, but it's also a lot different - at a metal concert, people are smashing into each other. At a worship night, people jump, which puts a lot more strain on the floor than people hitting each other.

  • yeah, we all fell through, all of the fancey letters crew.

    the floor collapsed first. then most of us started helping out with the injured.

    a pew landed on a few of us cuz we were in the back, lucky we wenrt in the front, as everyone who was hit their heads!

    keep them all in your prayers! does anyone have a tape of the actual fall? i kinda wanna see what happened, to me it was all a blurr.

  • Dear Lord Jesus I ask for you to place your healing hand up each and every person that was at the concert, I ask for physical healing and mental healing in Jesus name, Let YOUR name be glorified in this terrible accident. Lord Jesus be with those who are still in the hospital may they make a miraculous recovery and may YOUR name be glorified in all of this. In Jesus mighty name amen and amen

  • I was there too i was right at the edge of the crash PRAISE JESUS no-one died.....Pray for r\the woman in critical care..

  • This was the song just before the song where the accident occured. I'm still in schock. How is everyone doing?

  • "After this song"... by this do you mean during the next song, or just right after this song? Was it something like Revolution which usually has people jumping like crazy? Cause there really isn't any jumping in this vid... so I'm trying to get a picture of what happened...

  • The next song right at the 1st courus people started jumping and the metal thing fell on them and then the floor colapsed....

  • my bro got stitches in his head

    i mean that concert was really good with shane and shane but also very very scary thank the lord for saving us if u dont think he is real after that theres something wrong but ya i was in the whole and a lady behind me was knocked out

    scary everyone pray for her and if are not a christian i encourge u to ask Jesus in to ur heart it will be the best thing u have ever done

  • Man!! Ya know what!? The "gigantic metal structure", were fell in front of me, on another people's legs.

    I was totally freaked out!!I was at the spot that are a half in the hole and a half stiil in the first floor!! The accident is so creepy and scary!! Hope those people that were in the hole will be OK.

  • Man!! Ya know what!? The "gigantic metal structure", were fell in front of me, on another people's legs.

    I was totally freaked out!!I was at the spot that are a half in the hole and a half stiil in the first floor!! The accident is so creepy and scary!! Hope those people that were in the hole will be OK.

  • I was about 10 feet away, if I saw right were the some of the band members helping? I couldn't see much because I was trying to get to the structure that fell to help get it off people, but then we were herded outside.

  • I fell in :P it was soo scary!!! liek all these people running out covered in blood

  • That must have been shocking for all the people who were there! God bless those who fell in the hole!

  • the stage collapsed less than a foot away from me and some of my friends fell in there.

    i can see myself. i was right infront of Tim. That was so insane.

  • WoW! I was about to go to their concert here in Burnaby, but somehow, I won't go after all. even though I love their music a lot, but after one group of people went through one major accident I don't know how I can still go. They said it was a miracle that nobody died, and I wonder why (sarcastic voice)... Nobody died because it was a Christian Concert and GOD was right there and saved so many lives. I just hope that the serious injured people get through it! F.R.O.G.!

  • i was there when the floor collapsed in fact i fell through the floor it was so scary

  • WoW! I was about to go to their concert here in Burnaby, but somehow, I won't go after all. even though I love their music a lot, but after one group of people went through one major accident I don't know how I can still go. They said it was a miracle that nobody died, and I wonder why (sarcastic voice)... Nobody died because it was a Christian Concert and GOD was right there and saved so many lives. I just hope that the serious injured people get through it! F.R.O.G.!

  • Right.. saved so many lives...

    While a woman lies for the rest of her days paralized from the neck down. I don't know about you. I'd rather be dead. So many injured... if your God WAS there, why didn't he simply stop the floor? Think about it, he wasn't there. He's never there. There's a reason for your belief. You're scared. You want something to believe in, something to rely. A reinsurriance. And I get that. But you have to open your eyes. So much evil goes on in the world...

  • She is not actually paralized from the waist down she can feel her legs now, it iwas the swelling in her brain that made that happen.

  • Yes, there is evil in this world but, there is also good! Tim (the lead singer) just seconds before the collaspe, told everyone to stop jumping. When the ligthing truss came down, people would have been hit. That saved lives! God told him that to save lives! GOD IS ALWAYS THERE! He has never left us and will never leave us! You're right. We are scared. Scared of what God will do to us if we don't believe in Him! Im sorry if you dont believe in Him.

  • She has family and a husband, I'd say she's praising God that she's alive today. Even though its hard to see, God does everything for a reason, and being in the Starfield community, its so obvious about how this accident has brought everyone closer. I live on the other side of the country, and I;ve been talking with people who were in the accident, and making all these new friendships because of this. It may seem bad, but God makes everything Beautiful... in his time.

  • umm, no we're not all ignorant. im a christian, and i'll be honest. some of these comments are a little queer, but that doesn't make them ignorant or brainwashed. im just guessing, but you probably think christians are brainwashed because they believe in someone that takes people to heaven, but there's no proof that God actually exists, right?

  • and btw, God doesn't guarantee perfect lives without pain or suffering in this world. that's why there's a place called heaven

    and why are you searching up starfield anyways? lol

  • Because I wanted to see what happened when the floor collapsed. I heard about it and I live near the area.

    And no, it's because there have been countless religions that once had the majority of the world as followers that are now thought of as rediculous. They are obsolete. I don't understand what makes you think yours is any different..

  • Because Christianity has lasted for over 2000 years, and Judaism, which was the precursor to Christianity until the birth of Christ, lasted even longer. What other religion has lasted that long? And isn't better to be safe than sorry? What if you're wrong? If the Bible is the truth, it won't be pretty. Maybe you're right, maybe there is no God. But what if there is? Then what?

  • @bigsbytele Your logic seems good, and I agreed with you. But there are those who call it a wager.

  • your right dude.. but its so much easier to question than it is to believe, but thats what faith is, thats what makes these people strong.. because no matter wat happens there is hope

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