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  • Ziggy Bop!

  • Iggy couldn't sing as well until he had decades of practice.

  • how the fuck is this R rated?

  • Need to see that full performance!

  • I don't know where people get the whole "Iggy & the Stooges were the original punk rockk band." I don't know a whole lot about music, but I can trace the roots of punk in the late 70s. It started with the Ramones, who were the true first as far as all "history lessons" I've heard & read. Iggy & many other bands influenced punk to a huge degree, but I wouldn't include Iggy in the fold of punk music.....maybe I'm wrong.

  • @ProChoiceJesus well y'know the roots of punk are actually in protopunk bands of the sixties, like mc5 and the stooges. ramones might have been the first punk rock band but it certainly wasn't the first punk band, they were influenced by dozens of protopunks before them. and iggy was probably the most influential so it's kind of fair to call him the pioneer of punk.

  • @ProChoiceJesus You are wrong .. you best consider THE IG!..The guy is immortal amongst men..PUNK PIONEER even before the Dead Kennedys and Ramones and the Clash no disrespect too those fine chaps..

  • @ProChoiceJesus You are wrong. Iggy was there before the Ramones (not denying the Ramones at all). But I guess that was considered Underground.

  • Dynamic duo

  • David Bowie + Iggy Pop = Ziggy Pop?

  • @TheHoleBag  |\|ø....it's Jones Osterberg......

  • @TheHoleBag thats my profile name on xbox haha!

  • @TheHoleBag

    Ziggy Popdust and the Stooges from Mars.

  • @TheHoleBag trainspotting

  • Iggy on Dinah -- this is too much. Major, major guest cast judgment error. Poor Dinah probably never recovered.

  • Iggy you are one of the coolest people i've ever known. I saw you at the hop farm festival and you blew me away! A real inspiration for someone of your young age.

  • ok, so now, we should kind of start another absurd discussion because too much water has passed down the bridge already, so who has something controversial to propose? I don't, I love both Bowie and Jim and understand English grammar also.

  • all you have to do is listen, then maybe you wouldn't seem so ignorant, this is about the song, not the carrer

  • @legubreous shut up.

  • @Gorviee no you shut up......

  • @legubreous i made that comment a year ago. it's just a mistake.. holy crap. it's not the end of the world. you think i care if some random people think i'm "ignorant"? um no not really. get out of here please.

  • @Gorviee .............?what the hell are you talking about

  • they fucked

  • Iggy was the godfather of "cutting" too. What an innovator!

  • I think they were talking about the song China Girl which iggy sang before David covered it, I dont think they meant Bowie wasent famous in 77, because he certianly was

  • Bowie was known planet-wide by '72 when the 'Ziggy Stardust' album propelled him into the mainstream.

  • they meant didnt make china girl famous idiots

  • @Bpatch83 calm your tits.. "idiot"

  • Iggy was so damn cute back then!! <3

  • Ziggy and iggy WUAOoooooO

  • wow! bowie played keys for him? Damn talented!!

  • Iggy Pop and David Bowie on the Dinah Shore show? Seriously? That is hilarious.

  • His first album was released in 1967..the next-Space Oddity was 1969...pretty big record there Gorviee 11.....

  • goddamn shut your mouth asshole...you...the guy talking so much shit about bowie, fuck you mr boring ass republican reporter, you don't know how to difference shit from piss

  • u can see all the gay lust in bowies eyes, they were gay together

  • @zzcoolfun i don't know... it seems not true,as they tell it

  • Before Bowie was famous...like fuck

  • Attended this concert in 1977 at the now long gone 'Seneca Field House', Toronto,Canada..the only place to really be.

    Iggy yanked down a 40 foot light stand almost cracked David on the skull...Dave wearing his aviators n black leather, Iggy , well his usual madness...

    Thanks for this ...n stayed home from high school and watched them do 'Funtimes', from the then,new album if Iggy's, The Idiot....great time from my generation...the Greatest Generation...always was, always will be..

    Hugs , Gem

  • @repelghosts I was there too! How cool!...Remember Blondie opening the show?

  • @repelghosts amen...i envy you, exile on main street, neil young, the stooges, television...i fucking envy you...like seriously

  • Iggy is the younger of both, and he was inspired by Bowie, and Bowie was inspired by Marc Bolan,Bowies first recording was ,as Backgroundsinger, on the Song The Wizzard by T.Rex. was in 1967 or 68. And the Song Chinagirl is Music:Bowie,Brian Eno Lyrics: Iggy Pop----- was first recorded in Paris for an Album of Iggy.

  • I love Dinah and that other chick hanging on the edge of their seats: "You cut yourself? Oh dear..."

  • i fuck bootfarg

  • @Gorviee Again, the host was talking about the song China Girl. Before Bowie made that song famous Iggy recorded it in 1977.

  • Nice Video Ziggy and Iggy ---.... Iggy Pop I think is one of Bowies older Brothers....

  • ha ha

  • david bowie paid for punk rock

  • Oh! Now I need to go find this whole interview! I remember sitting in front of the TV as a very small kid, watching Dinah Shore...I had no idea that the music I love now collided with the nice TV lady from my toddlerhood. What a strange juxtaposition.

  • You Guys do know that china girl is bowies song which he gave to iggy then used it for his own afterwards

  • @MrMrMojoRisin73 China Girl was on Iggy's album years before Bowie did a version of it. And Bowie's version is boring by comparison.

  • @MrMrMojoRisin73 You do know the song is about Iggy's experiences being rejected by someone he met when working in France? She wasn't Chinese (I think she may have been Japanese or Korean, but she was married). The line "Oh, Jamie, just you shut your mouth" is supposedly what this woman said to Iggy when he attempted to declare his feelings, and the threat/warning of "I'll ruin everything you are" is more in-keeping with Iggy's self-destructive behaviour at the time.

  • @MrMrMojoRisin73 That's not really true. Bowie wrote the music, but Iggy wrote the lyrics. So it's a co-written song.

  • david's voice is funny aaaaaaaeeeiieeeeoeouuuu

  • Why am I looking at this? They ain't even dead yet. But... that time in their lives is. And our lives. Oh well, there's always another viewing of Velvet Goldmine.

  • can you people stop with the emo thing people cut them selves to handle depression how long have emos been around to be made out that emos invented it

  • ahhh to heck wit it!

  • Iggy's the best....

  • What the hell do they mean "Long before Bowie made it famous"? That was after Bowie had already released Ziggy Stardust, Hunky Dory, Alladin Sane and Station to Station. The Idiot was released right after Low when David was quite well known, idiots.

  • @RiverSolitaire As Homebrew58 and Reint25 have already pointed out: They mean Iggy recorded the song China Girl (released on The Idiot in 1977) long before Bowie made this song famous (his version was released on Let's Dance and as a single in 1983).

  • @sdflkj234 Ah, sorry mate. Misunderstood you. I love The Idiot, better version of China Girl then Lets Dance for sure.

  • @RiverSolitaire i think they mean the song "china girl" that david bowie covered in 1983.iggy did it 1977.

  • @RiverSolitaire He meant long before Bowie made the song "China Girl" famous....not before Bowie himself became famous.

  • Marilyn Manson is Iggy Pop's bastard child.

  • Hahaha gotta love iggy.

  • They now know that cutting releases endorphins. So it's not just an EMO thing. I didn't know David Bowie knew how to play the keyboard.

  • I love that he performed on her show without a shirt.

    That had to be shocking.

  • Funny the announcer saying that Iggy recorded China Girl before Bowie got famous - This is '77 and Bowie kicked ass on several tours starting from '73 on (Santa Monica Arena show rocked).

  • @TheEnormousPianist He means ''long before he (Bowie) made it (the song China Girl) famous.

  • @TheEnormousPianist Bowie started recording in the mid 1960's. He was touring in the UK long before 1973. And the announcer was referring to the song when he said "it"... "long before Bowie made -> it <- famous, Iggy recorded China Girl on his album, the Idiot".

  • ms clooney seemed very concerned

  • I love this!

  • That was back in the days before much of the shock jock type stuff that we have become used to, very funny.

  • I AM A VIRGIN

  • @SteveTheVirgin38 that sucks man get laid

  • See Bowie cringe...fuckin' hilarious!

  • @bareknuckles2u I don't know if he was cringing.......he was looking at Iggy like "You cheeky bastard".

  • Skulldini is right...of course there were antecedants to punk,Velvets, Stooges, Dolls,etc, being the immediate predecessors,as there are antecedants to everything.The pieces were always there, but when the pieces passed through the Ramones it came out, behold..punk rock! When I saw the Stooges on the Raw Power tour in 73 or 74 at the Victory Burlesque in Toronto, there was a very heavy glam rock element...glam rock gone mad! This is not to diminish the antecedents, so I don't get the anger.

  • I was 1 year old when this all took place. So unfair how I missed out. The internet is the only tool that the younger generations have to access great music nowadays. Today nothing but cursing and breasts catch the attention of most teens. Sad.(

  • @mjloy76 I know! I feel the same way. I could give a rats ass about modern music today, Hell I am 15 and majority of my ipod is filled with david bowie, and oldies. Ha, I find this music much more talent filled and worth listening to then the crap out today.

  • I love that stage of Iggy Pop - and all the rest.

  • i realy like iggy plop

  • Thank you for this nie Docu!!! They worked very well together!!

  • love it - thanks for posting.

  • WOW

  • wHAT A STOOGE YOU REALLY ARE..

    IGGY WAS LIVLY LONG BEFORE THE RAMONES

  • I like Punk Rock!

  • MC5 was punk in the sixties

  • @snatchhog thats debatable

  • the orginal china girl sounds goth to me, Bowie made it a pop song. i think bowie took a lot of ideas from Iggy, bowie did the same with nine inch nails.

  • @sizedoctor Bowie WROTE China Girl and Lust for Life FOR Iggy.And Reznor? Explain.

  • I understand Iggy banged Dinah in the arse that night after the show......eeeeeeeeeeeaahhhhhhh­h!!

  • I'm pretty sure Bowie was pretty damn famous by 1977

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  • @theantisebby "Long before Bowie made it famous". Sounds wrong, but I guess they just meant 'China Girl'.

  • @theantisebby Okay, both you and the 29 people who gave you thumbs up..... not to mention Gorviee and his 35 people.... missed the facts. The guy said long before Bowie made China Girl famous it was on Iggy's album......not before Bowie made it famous. I'm pretty sure VH1 knows that Bowie has been known sense the late 60's.

  • @Flipper79able chill out. we made a mistake. the comments were made a year ago. stop commenting on them.

  • "The Idiot" is stil a record ahead of this time, was a great influence for gothic rock, new-wave, until the post rock of today. Iggy was the rock soul and Bowie the mad doctor. The original China Girl is much better!

  • Iggy Pop was gorgeous when he was young .

  • Bowie not famous till 1977? Ohk, seriously....

  • @Gorviee it means before he made the song "China Girl" famous, not before he was famous, he was famous.

  • @larsporsena38 OH! I get it now. lol Thanks for clearing that up

  • @Gorviee i think what they meant was it was before bowie made "china girl" famous in 1983. iggy did it i 77.

  • @Gorviee I think they meant , before Bowie made china girl famous

  • @Gorviee the commentator says: "long before bowie made "it" famous, iggy recorded chinagirl"....... "it" refers to "chinagirl", not "bowie". so he says that iggy recorded it(chinagirl) before bowie made it(chinagirl) famous; which is correct.

  • @hertzum ...EXACTLY! People should read lines fully before they go ape-freaking-out about misunderstandings, believing they can actually read between the lines, when there's nothing there!...Well, I guess that implies a little memory too, but you just can't hope everyone had come of age by the time the Idiot was out. And by the way ...erm..."gay lust in B's eyes"... do you mean professional comraderie? Were they together in Berlin? Doesn't alter a thing - they were great then.

  • @hertzum thanks tips, and the 50 million other people who thought it was cool to keep telling me that. jeezus christ. get over it.

  • @Gorviee not famous in the states till 77 famous in great britan since day1

  • @Gorviee they meant the song china girl fool

  • @solargesture Ok, fool. I made that comment a year ago. Calm yourself!

  • @Gorviee he meant the song

  • @vorkutaman oh my goodness, i posted this comment a year ago.. stop replying to it.

  • @ ThomComputer the sentence means "Long before Bowie made "China Girl" famous.. dipshit

  • "i've had treatment" LOL GOTTA LUV IGGY & ZIGGY

  • 'long before bowie made it famous, iggy released china girl on his album the idiot'

    what an idiot:P

  • @ThomComputer

    What a massive uninformed idiot

  • @ThomComputer yap.. you're an idiot. and ignorant.. l0l

  • me?:(

  • @ThomComputer you should know that china girl was originally written by iggy not by bowie.

  • i was referring to the fact that bowie created probably his most popular albums before 'the idiot' i was calling him an idiot cos he said 1977 was long before bowie became famous despite bowie havin released ten albums! nothin to do with china girl. and btw they did write the album together but iggys version wrecks bowies:)

  • Exactly. I think Bowie was pretty famous before the Idiot came out in 1977. He just wasn't as mainstream as he was in say, 1983 with "Let's Dance".

  • You need to wake up and start with Ziggy Stardust from '73 maybe even earlier and then u will see how Bowie has been [cliche] reinventing himself for some thirty years.

  • What the hell are you talking about? First of all, Ziggy Stardust came out in '72, not '73. Secondly, I said those albums weren't as mainstream until about '83. Just because his earlier work was popular didn't mean it was mainstream.

  • @BreakingGlass77 omg..here we go with intellectual snobbery. "It came out in 72 not 73" wow he was one year off big woop as if it makes a big difference. calm down, wikipedia guru master.

  • he is still beautiful ;) i adore his eyes.

    few days ago, i wrote in my notebook: child, every time when you feel that world is fake, that you're not the same person, please, find a video of Iggy's Pop concert. Look at this genius and give up on your thoughts. If you'd like to learn emotions, let James to be your authority.

  • the entire hour-long Behind the Music on Iggy has just been posted

    finally

    It's awesome. See posts by ABOYINSANE.

  • he's always been a mess!!!

  • Go read a biography or two, and make a statement like that again. Please.

  • Iggy invented cutting!

    Didn't catch on till MTV broadcasted it to the masses of emo kids tho.

  • you're a moron, punk rock was around years before ramones.

  • @AbsenceGetsFlagged I think the Rmones were the first full-fledged punk group though. Before the Ramones there may have been groups that were INFLUENTIAL on punk, yet weren't really punk in themselves. Like The Velvet underground were really an experimental art-rock group, The Stooges and Dictators were really more heavy metal, The Dolls were really glam, the Fugs were more psychadelic, The Kinks were more 60's garage,.. ( contd. )

  • @Skulldini ( Contd. ) .. but The Ramones were the group that really made punk into an established, exclusive and distinct full-blown genre. Thats how I see it anyway.

  • @Skulldini One of the most accurate and succint comments I've ever read.

  • @Skulldini Ramones? Iggy Pop changed ramones diapers! :D

  • @Skulldini Bullshit! The Stooges were the first dude. So sick of people thinkin it was the Ramones. And in a lot of way the Ramones paid more homage to classic rock and even doo-wop. People wanna think they were the first just cause of their mainstream appeal that they had. Turn off the TV and open a damn book

  • @AbsenceGetsFlagged punk rock has nothing to do with music, its an idea, iggy was the grandfather, the ramones were the fathers, the clash and sex pistols were what everything added up to

  • @AbsenceGetsFlagged

    so, tell me what is 'punk rock'

  • @AbsenceGetsFlagged I have a 1973 'Story of Pop' magazine that has a whole chapter entitled 'Punk Rock'. The chapter talks about The Stooges, The Electric Prunes, the Fugs and others. I know it's at my parent's house, somewhere. i really ought to dig it eyet.

  • go back to your newage shit, kid. fucking sick of you noneknowing bastards

  • die

  • haha best retaliation ever

  • What does iggy say at 1'22"->1'25", that makes people laugh, please?

  • "I've had threatment for this really", refering towards self unjury. People laugh because they don't really know what to think when he's so explicit and open in an interview, let alone on a show like this.

  • Thank you!

    Now I wonder what kind of treatment he took, maybe a psychanalist?

  • Actually......yes, a psychiatrist. In 1974, some time after the notorious chest cutting incident he was admitted to an excelllent psychiatric hospital, Neuropsychiatric Institute in LA after an arrest. This let to a long positive relationship with a psychiatrist Murray Zucker. Iggy got off heroin there and never used again. Although he continued to consume blow, hash and booze and problems were far from over, his "junk" chapter was. By the way, his dad's heath insurance paid for it.

  • Thank you Utah165!

  • Why would they laugh after he said he had treatment for his self-abuse?

  • maybe they thought it was supposed to be funny or the bloke who tells the crowd to laugh told them to laugh. Respect, Iggy.

  • I love Bowie's expression when Iggy's talking to Dinah Shore. Fucking Awesome.

  • Yes - this is very feminine.

  • china girl

  • please the name of the song that iggy sings on the floor?

  • man is China Girl

  • i hate the way she says "oh noooo." at the end when iggy tells her that he cut his chest....

    its like, if you think he's a mad man just say it. Condescending bastards....

  • The Dinah Shore audience was a well-habituated group of animals, wasn't it? The "virtue" of human intelligence is that we're more susceptible to be trained to titter on cue...

  • iggy is a god

  • thats so funny at the end...and he seems to have a great sense of humor!!!! long live mr pop!!!!

  • LOL, oh my god, so cute, it's as if Bowie took his demented friend to visit his aunts and now they are all so worried about the boy, it's awesome!

    "I had treatment for this", the audience laughs and the lady in red goes "Really?", LMAO, lovely!

  • @mchelo18 Bowie's face at 1:10 is hilarious, ooohh that boy iggy, he bad

  • Iggy actually looks kinda cute sitting on Dinah's couch.

  • I can see the compassion and close feeling for his frirend on David Bowie's face here.

  • everybody practices self injury in one way or another, drinking, smoking, drugs, etc., i don't see why is that such a big deal... let it go.

  • the first emo!! haha jk!!! no offence!! i heart david bowie and iggy more than you could imagine!

  • that would be buddy holly being the first emo :)

  • no just sayin 4 no reason emos hurt themselves for no reason he did something iggy and bowie rock

  • did the reporter said long before bowie made it famous, did this guy forgot all about ziggystardust and space oddity.

  • i understood the meaning like - long time before bowie made china girl famous....

  • Pay Attention Idoit,The reporter was refering to the song "China Girl"

  • i see now, but the way he worded it made it sound like he was referring to bowie.

  • The reporter is obviously an idiot.

  • That expression on Bowies face 1.10 seem's to be saying

    your going to get us in to trouble here dear boy, change subject.

  • To me, it said how said it made Bowie feel when Iggy talked about cutting himself onstage with the glass and why he did it.

  • red money was a copy of this....