21st Century Earth Dynamics Part 1

[Jacobsen28]

I am interested in the reasons for your theory. In principle the idea of plate tectonics and subduction zones does not fit into the separating pieces of Gondwana. There are no subduction zones on either side of the Atlantic, nor Indian and Antarctic Ocean Ridges. Please contact me I may have further suggestions that may fit into an expanding earth scenario. Dr Jens Jacobsen jaobsen@ mighty .co.za

[nononsenseinrational]

Would you care to tell me where I can find your papers, I would like to see the evidence that made you reach your conclusion.

[koshkudro]

check out neal adams growing earth theory

[DodecaDude]

At 4:27 you state "We now know that the surfaces of planets generally consists of complete uniform shells of matter, except Earth..." but Neal Adams has shown expansion evidence on the Moon, Mars, Europa, and Ganymede. Your theory would suggest that the moons of Jupiter were themselves gas giants as well? Btw, I think part 1 communicates better than part 2. Dismissing Adams as an artist is a error, he's spent 35 year researching his theory, even though his mechanism for growth may be suspect.

[MillyVanillification]

I fail to understand, how an 8km thick oceanfloor could "push" the 80km think continental mass around. Instead it should fold and build up huge mountains. That's why I do not think that plate tectonics is a valid explanation.

As of earth expansion, the source of the growing mass could be neutrinos. Until this isn't fully understood, one shouldn't dismiss the earth growth hypothesis.

[IsawaTsujice]

@MillyVanillification How can a 1cm^3 brick of Osmium be heavier than a 10cm^3 brick of Lithium?

Density. Size matters not. Ocean crust is far denser than continental crust.

[tonydoss]

@MillyVanillification

I think you should go back to college... the oceanic crust is DENSER than the continental crust, that's the reason why it subducts instead of forming mountain belts.

[jody8459]

I would like to point out that having been accepted in a peer-reviewed journal does not authenticate or validate a theory. There seems to be misconception among the masses that having been rejected from peer-reveiwed jounals invalidates a theory as well. Sometimes it seems that that the current processses are actually stifling science rather than promoting it.

[MarvinHerndon]

@jody8459I agree. It is much easier to find unethical reviewers who would kill a paper under aegis of secrecy than honest, knowledgeable reviewers. I have struggled long and hard in the peer-reviewed literature because many will ignore the work if otherwise. But many will ignore new, contradictory work anyway. Thanks for viewing.

[jonhz]

Question: How do u explain both i) convergence & ii) divergence w/ ur theory. I m a grad student working in dynamics of oceanic lithosphere. Cheers.

[Tweekerhead]

Mr.Herndon. I been thinking about your theory for while now and I gotta' say it's one of the most beautiful concepts I've ever seen, it explains so much of the profound mysteries. With your theory, I think the origins of the oceans can be explained. After all light gases rise to the top. I bet if they send a probe far enough, they would find water at some level in Jupiter's atmosphere.

The only thing is left is if we could figure out the diameter of Earth during the Dinosaur's reign. Thx U

[sidewallfusion]

I love this idea, it's refreshing to see lack of left brain linear thinking and academically accepted theory conformity. Thanks for this information. and please keep up this good work.

[tonydoss]

I have the greatest respect for India, its academy of science and its scientists. The Indian Academy of Science has many great peer-reviewed journals, Current Science is not. Current Science is a great journal to express opinions and other non-peer-reviewed materials, but a quick look at the "instructions to authors" makes it clear that contributions to this journal are not peer-reviewed.

Why not to publish that in Science or Nature, since it is such groundbreaking science?

[MarvinHerndon]

Quote from Current Science Instructions tor Authors: "All papers, solicited and unsolicited, will be first assessed by a Reviewing Editor. Papers found

unsuitable in terms of the overall requirements of the journal will be

returned to the authors. The others will be sent for detailed review." You might try reading, reasoning, and understanding.

[tonydoss]

looking at Dr Herndon track record, the publication of this theory has been in "Current Science" a scientific journal where publications are NOT peer-reviewed... anyone could published there and say the Earth's mantle is made of marshmallows, post a video on YouTube explaining Earht's mantle is made of marshmallows and argues this theory has been published in scientific journals...

[MarvinHerndon]

Wrong. "Current Science" is published by the Indian Academy of Science and my publications there are in fact peer-reviewed. Your remarks are an insult to India and to the many fine Indian scientists who publish in Current Science.

[tonydoss]

Thanks for this video! This will be very useful to show my students in 1st yr of Geology at uni that it is important to educate yourself so they can have a critical mind of what they find on the net... such as this so-called new scientific theory.

one reason why this video makes no sense is because these hypotheses have not been peer-reviewed: peer-review is the foundation of science, so people don't go claiming new scientific theories without anyone checking the relevance of their hypotheses

[MarvinHerndon]

Wrong. "Current Science" is published by the Indian Academy of Science and my publications there are in fact peer-reviewed.

[MyOtherBeaver]

But could not think of one thing that is wrong with this theory

If you were a geology teacher you would know how plausible all of this is!!

I would be delighted if you could tell me where the subduction zones are,why new organisms are found in the so-called 'subduction' zones after an earthquake and why there are no fossils in the ocean older than 70 mill yrs old

Neal Adams is gonna get ya

[tonydoss]

@MyOtherBeaver

- Should you check any maps you will be able to identify subduction zones, for instance: Japan, Tonga, Indonesia, south and central America...

- New organisms are found after an earhtquake? interesting. any references in peer-reviewed journals about this?

- The oldest fossils are stromatolites and are 3,450 million years old. See Allwood et al. (2009). "Controls on development and diversity of Early Archean stromatolites". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

[tonydoss]

@MyOtherBeaver

@MyOtherBeaver

- Should you check any maps you will be able to identify subduction zones, for instance: Indonesia, south and central America...

- New organisms are found after an earhtquake? interesting. any references in peer-reviewed journals about this?

- The oldest fossils are stromatolites and are 3,450 million years old. See Allwood et al. (2009). "Controls on development and diversity of Early Archean stromatolites". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

[trymil]

I think it is great that these new theories are being explored and now even made available to the public thru these channels. Way too long have bad science been allowed to be presented as fact in popular media.

Keep up the good work and be open to inputs!

By the way, would you like to comment on Neal Adams´ Growing Earth theory?

[MarvinHerndon]

Thanks for the kind words. The same thing happened in Galileo's time when academicians misled people. Galileo wrote in the language of the people and popular support helped to turn the situation around. On the other subject, it is my understanding that Neal Adams is a cartoonist, not a scientist.

[trymil]

Yes, but he also has 1,5 million views and 44 000 comments actively debating his ideas, (mostly it is him against the pack) no offence!

[MarvinHerndon]

The purpose of science is to determine the true nature of Earth and Universe. If a person has a theory about, for example, matter formation, then it is necessary to connect observations logically and causally to the properties and behavior of matter. Remenber science is a logical process, not a democratic process.

[MrKappaBeta]

"Remember science is a logical process, not a democratic process."

I very much enjoyed discovering your materials and I have learned a significant amount. Helium ratios and natural fission reactors in particular. The mantle convection video is excellent. James Maxlow PHD is a geologist who has done earth expansion work as well.

google . ca/search?q=james+maxlow

To a scientist, science is a logical process. To everyone else it is democratic. jmo... Thank you for being logical.

[MarvinHerndon]

James Maxlow kindly offered to let me use one of his figures for my book "Maverick's Earth and Universe". I used Hilgenberg's globes instead because they were easier for a layman to understand at first exposure to the idea. Maxlow and others have helped to keep the idea of Earth expansion alive against assults from the plate-tectonics adherents. I hope both sides can understand the unification I present. Then science would really move forward.

[trymil]

I am confident that plate tectonics will be replaced by more sound and well founded theories, as the visual proof of a small Earth is unignorable, but I do have some challenging remarks.

I find it hard to comprehend the neccessary compression to make the Earth 1/4-1/8 of present size. The gravitational pull at the surface would be enormous! How do you explain the size of prehistoric animals? It´s hard enough even with constant gravity! So the size of dinosaurs indicates less gravity, not more!

[MarvinHerndon]

No. Only about 64% of present size making gravity at surface only about 2.4 times present. That's not too much different.

[trymil]

Would not a dense, highly compressed planet, when stripped of it´s outer layers of gas, tend to expand much at first, then more slowly untill it reaches equilibrium? Contrary to the observed exponential increase of new crust in the rift zones?

Could it not be that BOTH decompression AND increase in mass due to some unknown mechanism in the core is taking place? James Maxlow has made a model of the Expanding Earth, using geological data, all the way back to Archaean time Earth radius at only 27%

[newfiegeo]

Fantastic... This video raises so many questions and possibilities. Why was nothing, absolutely nothing, of the earth expansion theory mentioned while I was working on my degree in geology?

I have read some of the material put forth by Dr. Hendron and feel that it has a significant place for debate within the geological community.

So begins a new age (?) in our understanding of the earth!

[MarvinHerndon]

Thanks, the kind words are appreciated. Science should about discussion and debate, about truth, not deception.