This experiment is why I get so frustrated when people say a certain leading man cannot act because he's "wooden" or whatever. The trick is, you show the audience an image, like a friend of the main character walking out the door, or dying, or his wife telling him it's over, or a dead child, or whatever and then cut to a close up of the fairly expressionless face, and fixed stare of the hero. We know how we feel about it, so we read that into his face, we assume he feels it too.
As they say editing is an 'Art of Storytelling'. It is like putting the puzzle together. It is a beautiful art. Most editors edit along with the directors to make sure the vision remains the same
By 'film' I did not mean a piece of fictional storytelling devised for entertainment or else, I meant it was 'filmed'...a 'film' in the literal and technical sense of the word. Also, I apologize, but this is not an exercise in acting techniques but rather Editing techniques.
There was no acting, the man has the exact same expression in every shot. The audience's perception was manipulated through the juxtaposition of images with the man. The montage could feasibly be reassembled in a completely different order for a completely different effect. This is deconstruction, not construction. Also, this is not the original film, that one is lost.
@SonNuriko "Wings of Desire" otherwise known as "Der Himmel Uber Berlin" or Heaven Over Berlin. It's the film that "City of Angels" with Nicholas Cage and Meg Ryan was based on.
You know the one with all of the angels in trenchcoats and the crappy Goo Goo Dolls song "Iris" as the theme song?
@4DFilmz oh yes Desire not despair Dx I even watched it before this and couldn't remember the name Dx haha although i never watched the US version -_-;;; don't usually like to watch remakes AFTER the original
@SonNuriko I had to watch "Wings of Desire" for my International Film class, and it was one of my favorite German films (right up there with Metropolis and Nosferatu). I loved the fact that Colombo was in it and he played himself... but he was a fallen angel. Awesome.
@4DFilmz oh ok i watched it because i was intending to use it in my essays about how American remakes of Arthouse films totally change its aesthetics and stuff to fit its audience (to put it bluntly, simplyfing the whole context of the original film) but I was only allowed to focus on one pair to I did it on another film :)
Wow Metropolis and Nosferatu! We always refer to that in my film studies and it's embarrasing to say this but I still haven't watched the two Dx
@SonNuriko I actually had a very similar assignment that I had to watch it for. We needed to analyze an international film and its American remake and then compare and contrast the aesthetics, cinematic style, societal context, etc. etc.
I don't think I need to say that Bruno Ganz is a much better actor than Nicholas Cage, and Damiel is a much more sympathetic character than Seth "Plate".
kuleschow was assuming that primary the composition of pictures actually creates a sense in the context. --> the importance and power of montage!! thats my opinion, but i might have got it wrong, im not that familiar with film analysis yet.
the effect is that people consider the mans facial expressions as different in the two shots, although its actually quite the same. and they do so, because they have seen a picture in a context in the shot before: the empty soup bowl/ the dead woman and so the interprete another meaning in the mans face, due to their own feelings and the context.
they expect how this man has to react on these pictures and so they think, that he has just those feelings right then.
Yes, this is a recreation, as the man is Bruno Ganz, born much later than the experiment took place. And yes again, that shot of him is probably from Der Himmerl über Berlin, made in the 1987.
Holy CRAP! 0:13 mark is the exact glass coffin that is in one of the scenes of The Tree of Life!
sixamsedna 3 months ago
This man is Bruno Ganz
satya1ray 5 months ago
What the hell was that?
qwer58j 10 months ago
@qwer58j Look it up.
shagoosty 8 months ago
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I don't understand. Why does Johnny Cash want to feed soup to the dead girl?
mikechga 1 year ago
I don't understand. Why does johnny Cash want to feed soup to the dead girl?
mikechga 1 year ago 5
This experiment is why I get so frustrated when people say a certain leading man cannot act because he's "wooden" or whatever. The trick is, you show the audience an image, like a friend of the main character walking out the door, or dying, or his wife telling him it's over, or a dead child, or whatever and then cut to a close up of the fairly expressionless face, and fixed stare of the hero. We know how we feel about it, so we read that into his face, we assume he feels it too.
straker2 1 year ago 2
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amymoulsdale 1 year ago
@amymoulsdale Guilty! :)
straker2 1 year ago
As they say editing is an 'Art of Storytelling'. It is like putting the puzzle together. It is a beautiful art. Most editors edit along with the directors to make sure the vision remains the same
gauravagarwal181178 1 year ago
if you like to see the movies history watch *BIRTH OF CINEMA* in youtube and enjoy.
spirmessi 1 year ago
SO this is the Power of EDITING!!!!
denikurniawanCHANNEL 1 year ago
Its Bruno Ganz
nachociatti 1 year ago
genius,i think its common sence but ok dude whatever.
eblasphamy1 1 year ago
@DrWizardMan that was a dumb thing to say, this film changed the history of filmmaking and editing. Do some research before you open your mouth.
sweetlittlesister 2 years ago
@sweetlittlesister
It's not a film, it's an acting method. But it did change film history. And I love the constructivist editing.
1Corto 1 year ago
@1Corto
By 'film' I did not mean a piece of fictional storytelling devised for entertainment or else, I meant it was 'filmed'...a 'film' in the literal and technical sense of the word. Also, I apologize, but this is not an exercise in acting techniques but rather Editing techniques.
sweetlittlesister 1 year ago
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ozymandias1818 1 year ago
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ozymandias1818 1 year ago
@1Corto -
There was no acting, the man has the exact same expression in every shot. The audience's perception was manipulated through the juxtaposition of images with the man. The montage could feasibly be reassembled in a completely different order for a completely different effect. This is deconstruction, not construction. Also, this is not the original film, that one is lost.
ozymandias1818 1 year ago
@ozymandias1818 if im not mistaken, the man in this one is from the movie "Wings of Despair" which is a German movie of the 80's I think? Dx
SonNuriko 10 months ago 2
@SonNuriko "Wings of Desire" otherwise known as "Der Himmel Uber Berlin" or Heaven Over Berlin. It's the film that "City of Angels" with Nicholas Cage and Meg Ryan was based on.
You know the one with all of the angels in trenchcoats and the crappy Goo Goo Dolls song "Iris" as the theme song?
Yeah. The German one was way better.
4DFilmz 5 months ago
@4DFilmz oh yes Desire not despair Dx I even watched it before this and couldn't remember the name Dx haha although i never watched the US version -_-;;; don't usually like to watch remakes AFTER the original
SonNuriko 5 months ago
@SonNuriko I had to watch "Wings of Desire" for my International Film class, and it was one of my favorite German films (right up there with Metropolis and Nosferatu). I loved the fact that Colombo was in it and he played himself... but he was a fallen angel. Awesome.
4DFilmz 5 months ago
@4DFilmz oh ok i watched it because i was intending to use it in my essays about how American remakes of Arthouse films totally change its aesthetics and stuff to fit its audience (to put it bluntly, simplyfing the whole context of the original film) but I was only allowed to focus on one pair to I did it on another film :)
Wow Metropolis and Nosferatu! We always refer to that in my film studies and it's embarrasing to say this but I still haven't watched the two Dx
SonNuriko 5 months ago
@SonNuriko I actually had a very similar assignment that I had to watch it for. We needed to analyze an international film and its American remake and then compare and contrast the aesthetics, cinematic style, societal context, etc. etc.
I don't think I need to say that Bruno Ganz is a much better actor than Nicholas Cage, and Damiel is a much more sympathetic character than Seth "Plate".
4DFilmz 5 months ago
kuleschow was assuming that primary the composition of pictures actually creates a sense in the context. --> the importance and power of montage!! thats my opinion, but i might have got it wrong, im not that familiar with film analysis yet.
justthoughtabout 2 years ago 10
the effect is that people consider the mans facial expressions as different in the two shots, although its actually quite the same. and they do so, because they have seen a picture in a context in the shot before: the empty soup bowl/ the dead woman and so the interprete another meaning in the mans face, due to their own feelings and the context.
they expect how this man has to react on these pictures and so they think, that he has just those feelings right then.
justthoughtabout 2 years ago 5
and what is the "effect"?
I don't get it
TheSunmanho 2 years ago
genious (L)
boludopro 2 years ago
The lady is Lucy, from Bram Stoker's Dracula ^^
OLAPuTiPuTi 2 years ago
Genius
highaimer 2 years ago
Thanks for this video, it comes in handy when you're studying film history :)
prettyteabag 2 years ago
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i dont get it...
kyapello 2 years ago
you wouldnt.
bluemonkey101021 2 years ago
hahah i DO get it you idiot i was being sarcasmistic..
kyapello 2 years ago
You do nothing but reinforce bluemonkey's assertion.
PoisonPeachPit 2 years ago
lol
alexcoe 2 years ago
amazing discovery in cinema history. my parents have that exact bowl too... it's really weird.
dylnvcufilm 3 years ago 14
Yes, this is a recreation, as the man is Bruno Ganz, born much later than the experiment took place. And yes again, that shot of him is probably from Der Himmerl über Berlin, made in the 1987.
thinkgreen89 3 years ago 3
I think the man is from "Der Himmel uber Berlir" by Wim Wenders.
petrusmagnus84 3 years ago
I think this is a recreation of the experiment (actually I think the woman in the coffin is Lucy from Coppola's Dracula)
Romeoofbrasil 4 years ago
Is this the original experiment? I thought it had Mozzukhin and three other shots.
MagnesianPhoenix 4 years ago
the original experiment was lost...
djmorningstar 3 years ago 4
thank you,I've just read about the Kuleshov Experiment!
arashashtiani 4 years ago