WHY did these federal agents not just arrest these clowns and lock them up? The sanctimonious self-hating guilt filled moron who was spokeman for the group was, admittedly, very fun to laugh at in all of her grandiose smugness. Illegal aliens are just that, ILLEGAL. They should be deported.
FUCK ICE they beat my uncle and made him sign a deportation paper by force when he said no, thats unconstitutional, everyone in america has rights, read the bill of right you morons, he had no crimminal record! FIRE needs to take control of the united states and deport all these members from Ice and put it in the bill!
@ptraiders40 fuck that shit we should all have equals rights even if your illegle, damn cubans come from cuba illegily and they get to stay in america thats not fair, its bullshit, why aint geetin the same rights
does anybody know how many crimes a person has to commit a crime to get deported?,found out a old friend was picked up by i.c.e. after 3 or 4 drug arrests.i think he has a green card? what are chances we will be deported?
just saw your "clever" comment about my band AntiProduct. The name similarity is coincidental, the ethos is the same, the methodology is is different but you are a small minded and insensitive prick. "Kill yourselves"...what a douchebag.
That was a waste of fucking time. You accomplished absolutely nothing and just made yourselves look like the bored idiots you are. Cuando trabajo para la migra, deportaré gabachos así primeros. Si yo estuviera en eso reunion, yo madrearía a esos jotos que se llaman "FIRE". Nisiquieren tienen trabajos como los illegales que apoyan. Contribuye a este país; no te quejes!
Anti-immigrant people never back their arguments with facts.
it's always myths passed down by word and stereotypes. The anti-immigrant is full of myths with no credible sources, and always refers to nationalism, in and out groups who they say deserve less. that is bigotry by definition. Read up on NAFTA too dammit
@mykolozano there are no anti-immigrant people. There are how ever anti-illegal immigrant people. The person who breaks through our border and enters our country is commiting a criminal offence its known as a B&E breaking and entering. If I were to break into your house because I was cold and hungry and wanted food and warmth dont make it OK. If they want work they can find it in their own country, or come here LEGALLY.
FIRE and ICE, I appreciate the play on words. Very amusing! But seriously, these FIRE people are a little misguided. You don't have a right to be in this country if you came illegally, regardless of whether or not you pay taxes with a fraudulent social security or a validly obtained ITIN number. Similarly, you don't have a right to stay in this country even if you were granted lawful permanent resident status if you break certain laws in this country.
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everybody in this this stupid fucking organization achem "fire" as gay as that sounds. should go to the fucking illegals countrys and stay there for all i give a shit. There are reasons we dont want them here and if u protest that than u should be sent away just like them.
Way to go FLGFIRE! I respect & admire your right to peacefully & creatively protest against hatefilled, small-minded policy created by shallow-thinkers & fear mongering politicos. You stunned these fat (mostly white) conservatives. The people they're bullying aren't dangerous "illegals." They're just people. They are tearing families apart. Have they ever know hunger, poverty or real daily fear. Shame on ICE! This isn't the "Christian" thing to do. Let these people feed their children in peace.
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oh and by the way all u stupid fuckheads who think deportation is just a joke or that we should treat the illegals with mor dignity and all the bullshit.... remember they dont pay the tax dollars we do... there also taking half our goddamn jobs and economy... so think twice befor you say things you know nothing about.
How ignorant. Those "illegals" like you call them are hired to do the jobs you would never do! They do pay taxes. How can you assume that they don't?! talk about talking with out knowing.
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illegals are obviousely not meant to be here for reasons and there taken back to there countries for reasons.... ICE is making damn well sure of that.
IBMMuseum: MOST ILLEGAL ALIENS are paid under the table. There is NOTHING POSITIVE, about ILLEGAL ALIENS or TRAITORS. Both, must be brought to justice. ILLEGALS must be DEPORTED and TRAITORS, must be thrown in prison. We must confiscate the assets of all TRAITORS, liquify those assets and give it back to all TRUE U.S. CITIZENS who care about our people and our children.
patriotsue;come on!!!give me a break!!!I know there are some emmigrants without the right documentation in this country that are up to no good but that is with everybody blacks,whites,chinesse you name it,but the vast mayority are good people,hard working people that don't mean harm to no one,you should stop wathing too much fox news and lou dobbs,those two programs only promote one thing...fear among others.you should be more opend minded and give thanks to god that you are not in those shoes.
octaviocu: GOOD PEOPLE do not BREAK THE LAW. That is the problem with ILLEGAL ALIENS. They think it is okay to BREAK THE LAW and they teach the same criminal bad behavior to their children. You should never be open minded to anyone, BREAKING THE LAW. You just do not do it. That is why we have laws. What do you think is going to happen, when U.S. citizens start breaking our laws, to get the ILLEGALS, OUT OF OUR COUNTRY? Will you be open minded about us, removing ILLEGALS, OURSELVES?
you are taking it to another level I am tring to make you understand in a humane lavel I know there are laws but,instead of wasting your energy blaming undocumented people,why not find a solution...you know or you should know by now that emmigration legal or illegal will never end it's been happening since 1492 remember??? so by tring to kick'em out it will simply won't work!!I myself have real reality ideas that "I THINK MY WORK" I just can't fit'em all in this little space
you wanna hear them??? if you are willing to solve the problem like many people,I will be willinng to share my views.But remember..1;these are only my views and nothing alse. 2:I expect to get hate comments but that's ok I won't get butt hurt about it.
octaviocu: You can have your opinions, but it does not change our laws. When you talk about the human level, you might want to think about the 305,000,000 U.S. human lives, that ILLEGAL ALIENS and their supporters, do not care about.
What about the U.S. citizens married to illegal aliens (an estimated 2 million are in this relationship in the United States)? Most illegal aliens operate under the radar in the U.S., and are less prone to commit crimes than even native citizens. Stop painting them as such monsters.
Every ILLEGAL ALIEN is committing, several crimes, just to live here, illegally. They are all criminals. All of them. ILLEGAL ALIENS have murdered over 61,000 U.S. citizens. You are totally ignorant, to the crimes of ILLEGALS, against us and our children.
61,000 U.S. citizens murdered over what timeframe? Where is this data from? I'm not ignorant, but I am lost when you say every illegal alien is committing these sort crimes, in high amounts, with no other information or references.
I think it's more accurate to say that every illegal alien in this country has broken a law. Being here illegally in the US isn't necessarily a crime.
Yes, it is correct to say immigration is is civil, rather than criminal, violation. But not every undomented person or visa overstay has broken a law. A minor child is treated as not being culpable in the eyes of the law, for instance.
hey patriotsue...the problem in california is not the so called "illegals" the problem in california and most of the states is that a dumb ass president did not know how to run the country well...but as usual....blame the illegals....what's next for the illegals to take the blame....global warming????
octaviocu: Nah, I just blame the ILLEGALS for being ILLEGAL. I know, you do not know the difference, between a LEGAL IMMIGRANT and an ILLEGAL. That is the problem.
Wow, I would've given a kidney to be present for that! Kudos to FIRE for making a bold statement in a creative and non-violent way. I look forward to seeing more of FIRE's handiwork. =)
Igrayson: You have no world to take back. You are the minority. It is not the 60's anymore. No bad white boogeyman killing people of color. No matter how much you wish it to be so. It isn't. ILLEGALS HAVE MURDERED U.S. CITIZENS, at a far more alarming rate, than we have killed them. You are the new face of bigotry and racism, towards all U.S. citizens and whites. You are a racist bigoted traitor.
Where are you getting your homocide stats from? Certainly not from the FBI website. If this is happening why haven't there been any citizens murdered by immigrants here so close to the border? In fact the BP itself can't point to one incident of a citizen being harmed by a migrant. Though many migrants have been murdered by gringos. And I am bigoted and racist against myself and all the 'white' citizens that work with me to provide humanitarian aid. Si se puede - yes we can.
Igraysee: Here is our new U.S. American slogan: YES WE WILL!! YES WE WILL!!! YES WE WILL, REMOVE EVERY ILLEGAL AND TRAITOR, from our great U.S.A. Yes, you are a racist and a bigot. You want SPECIAL PREFERENTIAL RIGHTS for one group, ILLEGAL ALIENS, while another group, U.S. American citizens, you discriminate against. To continue, to expect us to follow our laws, while you aide and abet ILLEGALS to break our laws, is a very dangerous expectation. YES WE WILL start breaking OUR LAWS, to defend.
ones11han: STFU, traitor. In the next 5 years, probably a whole lot sooner, all U.S. citizens are going to have to make a choice. Do you stand with us, the American U.S. citizens or do you stand with traitors and their ILLEGAL ALIEN scum? Don't forget traitor, THEY BROUGHT THIS TO US. If they would have stayed in their own countries, what is going to happen, would not have to happen. The only ones they have to blame, is their ILLEGAL ALIEN selves.
Patriot, it's always refreshing to read such dreck from barking nutters like yourself. I hope you receive the much needed cranial-rectumology and realize your hegemony is the product of a forced immigration of a bunch of sexually repressed nutbags. Anyway, happy solstace and don't forget to bite down hard on your cyanide capsule when La Raza takes Arizona back.
They've already taken it back. Never left it when the US stole the land in the first place. Oh, I mean when the US "bought" the land from Mexico after "winning" the war that Texas started back when it didn't want to be part of the US.
Igraysee: How long, do you think it will take us, to push them back into their country, when we decide to? They can pretend all they want, that they are here to stay. Let them pretend, but soon, they will be awakened to the reality: This is NOT THEIR HOME. Let them sleep for now, in their deluded world of pretend.
leftboot77: ROFLOL!!!! LOL!!!! LOL!!! Hee hee Hee Hee LOL!!! What happens, when you push a people into a corner? Wait and see. Our time is coming. Sooner than you think. LOL!!! This will not be my laugh laugh. We may lose a few battles, but WE WILL WIN THE WAR!!! *I am doing a little dance right now.* Can't wait to do it on the graves of traitors, after the war starts.
Leftboot77 - we already kicked over their burning cross and we took back the world. The ignorant, intolerant and uneducated never succeed in the long run. I think though that maybe rabies vaccines ought to be required for some of these folks.
Igraysee: What about OUR CHILDREN? We know, you do not CARE ABOUT OUR CHILDREN, but, you know what, we really do not care. WE CARE ABOUT OUR CHILDREN and their right to A FUTURE in THEIR AMERICA. You far leftist loons, are so caught up in your Anti-American deluded world, you really cannot see. You cannot see, how much you are truly hated and despised by the majority of U.S. citizens. WE DO NOT GIVE A F*** about ILLEGALS or the world. What have they done for us and our children? Nada!
That's the difference between me and you. I care about ALL children, especially yours. You and your kids would have nothing if not for migrants. No fruits, no veggies, no meat, no dairy. And tell me how is it that I am despised when the majority of the US voted for the same ticket I did. And now my governor is going to be in charge of DHS. Oops, there goes the fence and the ICE raids and the SS ...
all my fruits and veggies are grown on my property... so i have nothing to thank mexican immigrants for and im from california.
You cant say you care about all children... you are advocating illegal actions against the population of the USA by invaders from Mexico...
Guys on the right and guys on the left want illegal immigration stopped. You are despised by both sides. If the mexican immigrants want to come to the USA they can do it legally and stop using tax dollars for their healthcare
Good to know that you grow all your own fruits and veggies. More folks should do that. Do you also raise and slaughter all your own meat?
Also I really wish you folks would get some accurate data on whole "they're a drain on our tax dollars" crap. CA, AZ and TX in addition to a number of other non-partisan groups have done numerous studies that prove that these people are a net asset to our economy. Like they're keeping SS afloat for the baby boomers.
Igraysee: LOL!!! Look at California. Governor Arnold is begging for billions of dollars to get out of his ILLEGAL ALIEN mess. Most ILLEGALS, do not pay INCOME TAX, you lie. They are paid under the table. In all over statistics, ILLEGAL ALIENS only make up 5 to 6 % of our working populace. They are all, mostly low-income earners, who pay no real taxes. The Golden State of California has become a third world cesspool. When whites start fleeing a state, it is because, the quality of life is gone.
Igrayson: There are 77,000,000 baby boomers and 20,000,000 ILLEGALS, who pay nothing in S.S. They do not have Social Security numbers, only U.S. citizens do. Now, Iraysee, explain to everyone, how ILLEGAL ALIENS can pay into Social Security, if they do not have Social Security numbers? Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder how.
Wrong, U.S. citizens are not the only ones with Social Security numbers, Legal Permanent Residents have them as well. You inflate illegal alien numbers, but discount that they (and ¨baby boomers¨) pay into Social Security. If you don´t understand how it works, then how can you make statements about it?
Again, you are wrong. We are not talking about LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. We are talking about ILLEGAL ALIENS. The only way, an ILLEGAL ALIEN can pay into Social Security, is with someone else's stolen Social Security number.
You said that only U.S. citizens have Social Security numbers and got 0wned on it. Now you say an illegal *can* pay into Social Security, changing from earlier statements. ¨PatriotSue¨, you are all over the map with your ¨facts¨ - How do you expect to be believed and taken seriously?
IBMMuseum: I said, ILLEGAL ALIENS do not have LEGAL SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS. The only way ILLEGAL ALIENS can pay into Social Security, is by using a Stolen Social Security number. Everything, they do from the moment they enter our country, illegally or over stay their visa, illegally is ILLEGAL.
IBMMuseau: Nothing you say or any traitor posts about ILLEGAL ALIENS, does not change the fact, they are CRIMINALS, who must be punished. It is that simple. ILLEGAL ALIENS have to leave. They must be DEPORTED. I want to see ALL TRAITORS punished with severe prison time. If you stand with ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS, you are a TRAITOR.
Illegal aliens in some rare cases may not have to leave, and for some others it may only be a brief exit before being able to re-enter as a legal resident. If married to a U.S. citizen, the unauthorized work they have done in the United States is even forgiven. That isn't my call - It's immigration law policies.
The cases I mention are rare, and usually involve marriage to U.S. citizens. But is a path to becoming a Legal Permanent Resident for some. To see it only in black and white is wrong.
I don't personally know any illegal aliens or "illegal foreign nationals", and I don't think if you truthfully knew me you would call me a traitor. All I am doing is correcting your false statements. Whether you choose to attack my character is up to you, but it greatly weakens any arguments or points you have.
"...They [illegal aliens] do not have Social Security numbers, only U.S. citizens do..."
That is the quote I called you on, factually incorrect that "only U.S. citizens" have Social Security numbers. And actually a visa overstay could be after something like marrying a U.S. citizen, in waiting to "Adjust Status" to being a lawful immigrant with USCIS. That does take some time, and is an accepted process under the rule of immigration law (which, BTW, is civil, not crimminal, law).
IBMMuseum: Being in the country illegally, is a civil offense, but it is one, that comes with punishment, which is DEPORTATION. Now, all the other laws they break, like STEALING SOMEONE ELSE'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER or using a fake one is a felony, which is way criminal. They drive illegally, without a license or insurance. Those are just a few of their crimes, you support.
Regardless of any of that. How the fuck were white europeans legal!? They were colonizers that commited indigenous genocide. Centuries later they have the audacity to claim the descendents of those indigenous people illegal?! Bring this shit up to the few native americans left, see what they have to say.
imdonewithit: Have you read world war history? Now, what normally happens, when the winner of a war, any war wins? They win the territory and the F***ING right to run the country, as they see fit. Bring this shit up to the Russians, Chinese, Germans, whoever. Tell all these countries, who won their countries, by winning in wars, to give back their land. LOL!! Right.
imdonewithit: Right now, there is war going on down in Mexico. The Mexican Drug Cartel is fighting for territory. They are trying to expand their illegal drug business. They are killing every Mexican they can, that stands in their way of winning that territory. Everyone, of every race, has fought for territory, since the beginning of time. But, racists like you, only have a problem when whites do the same exact thing, as so-called "people of color".
LOL!!!!! Bush did everything he could, with an majority Democrat Congress to pass an Amnesty, twice, last summer. Both times, the U.S. citizens, stopped it. We will stop it again, again and again. You care nothing for U.S. citizens or our children. You are a traitor. Take your traitor a** and go help the children of the world, in their countries, WITH YOUR OWN MONEY. Obama wants to win again, in 2012. He isn't going to piss off the people who voted for him. He knows, we want ILLEGALS DEPORTED.
Do YOU search the border region of the deserts of S. AZ, looking for dying human beings in the heat of June? Do you attend the court sessions of Operation Streamline to witness the so-called justice they receive? Have you ever spoken with a migrant? With a Border Patrol agent in the field? Have you ever cleaned and bandaged blistered, infected feet; treated hyperthermia or hypothermia? Have you even found a dead human being that the animals have been feeding on?Want your kid to die like that
Igraysee: WE DON'T F***ING CARE!!!!! YOUR PET ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE MURDERED 61,000 U.S. CITIZENS!!! I do not hear any compassion from you, for the tens of thousand U.S. FAMILIES, WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES, AT THE HANDS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS. Your continued blind support of criminal ILLEGAL ALIENS, SICKENS US. You care nothing FOR OUR PEOPLE, but you are IGNORANT AND DUMBF***ED enough, to believe we will care about yours. Yours, being ILLEGAL ALIENS.
Igraysee: Your people, ILLEGAL ALIENS, put themselves in the desert. WE DON'T. We, the American people are so sick of the idiotic spew, that comes from your treasonous mouths. WE HAVE CHILDREN, you ignorant F***. Do you thing for a second, these low-life scum bags, care about, whether or not, we have jobs to feed our children? Of course, they do not, you traitor. Why in the hell, would we care about a people, who could give a F*** about us and our children. Do you have a F***ing brain?
The really sad thing is that these good, decent people do care, they wouldn't turn their backs to anyone in need. And they certainly don't speak about gringos in the vile and obscene manner you are using to speak of them and your fellow citizens. How ironic that so many of them work in care facilities attending to our elderly parents that we don't have the time for.
Its already ridiculous that ICE cannot enforce immigration laws. But its utterly pathetic that these self-deprecating European Americans are actually defending the rights of 3rd world criminals to stay in this country, raping its economy, and painting ICE as the bad ones. Geez ... They would cringe in horror if they ever saw my plan for border control of illegal mexican immigration.
no i quoted you right. you said "tiny little white people". and you are trying to say there is a "deliberate global extermination" of the white race. thats fucking ignorant. the white people are the ones who came to this country and tried to wipe out an entire civilization that did nothing but good to them. The Europeans that came here raped women, killed children, even babies! They took the kids away and put them in boarding schools where the kids were beat, raped, tortured in the name of God.
you are wrong. caucasians were not here before. tiny little people? fucking idiot. YOU are ignorant and pathetic. What you say is made up theories to cover your pilgrim ass. As you are not going to recognize the reality we live in, there is no point in talking to you. It's going in one ear and out the other with your hollow head.
GlindainPink: Mexicans are still savage to each other. No outrage about that, though. I guess, brown on brown heinous atrocities are okay. Oh, but, let a white person or an U.S. citizen, just assault an ILLEGAL and it becomes World News. That is the new bigotry and racism, against all U.S. citizens and whites.
Thanks GlinainPink: You are pretty brilliant, yourself. We patriots, have to stick together. Great Posts. We just have to keep on fighting. We will win.
"why don't YOU true to go to meheeco" wtf are you saying? If you are saying "try" to go to Mexico, I've been. No, some areas are not safe, but thats not the point. stealing from americans? america was paved and stolen from natives. so whatever its up for grabs. hahaha. but anyway im born and raised and so is my family.
The Old Guard of the Flagstaff activist community have commented to me that they are extremely proud of this action. I want to personally say that this action was a creative way to show ICE that there is a great deal of outrage over their goosestepping in my community. Bravo mi hermanos y hermanas. I'm so very proud of you. Paz y Justicia por vida.
Hmmmm, 3 people proud of being idiots. Well, we have that one beat. 80% of 304,000,000 U.S. citizens are proud of ICE. Every time ICE raids a corporation and rounds up hundreds of ILLEGALS and DEPORTS them, we are proud. There are more ICE raids to come. The U.S. citizens are demanding a moratorium on all immigration, even legal. It is time we send a clear message. We do not have to let anyone in, if we do not want to. The U.S. does not need the world. The world needs us.
sarah20xoxo - isn't it interesting how the level of intelligent, reasonable conversation just vaporizes when you challenge these folks with fact. I am a front line witness to all that is going on but to them I still don't know what I'm talking about. Even with training in the law regarding this issue and daily experience with all the parties involved these folks who apparently get all their info from Lou Dobbs know more than anyone.
sarah20xoxo: We came here, to build a better nation to live in peace. We built this country, NOT ILLEGAL ALIENS. The MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL is murdering, torturing, raping and committing atrocities against their children, to expand their territory, FOR ILLEGAL DRUGS. Oh, but not a word, from an Anti-American hateful bigot like you. We see who the true racist bigots are. It is hateful people like you. You want to do something real. Go down to Mexico and protest the heinous atrocities, of Mexicans.
oh really? living in peace? so then what happened to those who lived here before?? learn some shit before you pretend to be a "patriot". you don't know what really goes on to this day like i do. you call me "antiamerican". you don't know shit about me.
I'll stand back eating some popcorn, drinking lemonade, with an ak and other weapons at my hand. whoever wins gets the country right? isnt that what you are all about? Now go away you are annoying.
sarah20xoxo: The Mexican Drug Cartel is torturing, beheading, raping and killing every single Mexican in their path, to expand their territory to sell more drugs. WHERE IS YOUR OUTRAGE ABOUT THAT? There is none. You only care, when the perpetrators are white or U.S. citizens. Who could give a shit, if Mexicans are murdering, raping, torturing and they are doing this today. What do you do? You go on and on, about whites, doing the same exact thing, but hundreds of years ago.
sarah20xoxo: Mexican children came out of their school, just a few weeks ago, to see several dead Mexican men, propped against the fence, with their heads chopped off and signs of torture. Mexicans passing under a bridge, had to stare at a dead tortured headless body, hanging upside down. All of these are messages from the Mexican Drug Cartel. They are doing this NOW, TODAY. The Mexican Drug Cartel kidnapped a little 5 year old child and murdered the child, with a lethal injection.
One of the ICE agents should have told that clown with the deportation sign that since he had it, he knew it was time to leave this country or be arrested. They should have arrested them all and checked their status. It's funny that most of the officers were amused at the stupidity shown by those fools,
MissouriManiac is a moron. Please accept this apology from the rest of Missouri.
This video reminds of when a mentally disturbed person walks up to you and asks you if you like cheese or if you know where the mothership landed. You just kind of smile back and hope they go away. Thanks for wasting the bandwidth.
Maybe these people ought to go volunteer where it really matters or at least try to get a girlfriend or something.
Just so you know, there's no such thing as an illegal immigrant. An immigrant comes to this country legally. We do have laws to follow, you know. If I thought murder was OK, then you think murder is OK????
Igraysee: Basic Human Rights, include punishing people who break the law. We are not torturing, beating, or treating ILLEGAL ALIENS inhumanely. We are treating them EQUALLY, to the way we treat our own U.S. CITIZENS. We are punishing them, for breaking our laws. If you are here, illegally, the punishment is DEPORTATION. We are sending the ILLEGALS HOME. This is not their HOME. It is our and it is our HUMAN RIGHT to protect it, at all costs.
Sorry to say but we are torturing, beating, murdering, and killing hispanic people, whether or not they are here legally or not. If someone is here on a valid visa or is a legal permanent resident they are not in any way shape or form 'illegal'. But la migra and ICE only differentiate on the basis of skin color with the result that no one who appears hispanic is safe from abuse, harassment, imprisonment or deportation including CITIZENS. How do I know this? Because I see it happen every day.
Also these people called FIRE are a joke! A bunch of white liberals who feel good about themselves because they "think" they are protecting minority rights...
How if you jump a border and enter a country illegal do you have rights?? WTF! If this is true they should be arrested for disorderly conduct and trespassing. GO ICE
Every human being within the boundaries of the USA has basic civil rights regardless of their immigration status. ICE and the Border Patrol regularly ignore the system of rights and laws guaranteed to everyone here (including citizens, legal residents and visitors with valid visas) under our Constitution. If you have such a problem with the idea of guaranteed rights for all human beings might I suggest emigrating to someplace like Sudan.
Igraysee: It is NO ONE'S HUMAN RIGHT to break the law. If ILLEGAL ALIENS have the right to BREAK OUR LAWS, it is not going to be long, before 304,000,000 U.S. CITIZENS start breaking our laws to survive. Mexico DEPORTS anyone in their country, illegally. We have the SAME EQUAL RIGHTS to do the same.
It wasnt black peoples rights to break the law either during the civil rights movement.
It wasnt the Native Americans right to break the Idea of Manifest Destiny either.
Laws are not always constitutional or right.
Your defense of the destruction of our economy is beyond all measure. Your defense of the brutal destruction of families and creating mass burdens of state due to the ignorance that people like you spew is beyond all measure.
The FACT that I am 10 times more likely to be brutalized by nationalistic xenophobes like you than any immigrant regardless of their legal status, is enough for me.
NO you are WRONG! One someone might have some rights during an arrest situation. But illegal immigrants are NOT citizens. Secondly, without immigration enforcement (border controls/investigations) there is no such thing as a sovereign nation. Lastly, you make a huge stupid statement about ICE and Border Patrol. HOW DO YOU know what they do? I guarantee you are making liberal ASSumptions about them without any real knowledge.
No ASSumptions here. My information comes from working with the undocumented; in the desert, in the courts, on the streets, in detention and during and after deportation. I know what ICE and la migra do because I SEE it with MY OWN EYES, every day.
Igraysee: Stop complaining about ICE doing their job. Do some research on the thousands of bodies, the Mexican Drug Cartel are leaving in their wake to expand their ILLEGAL DRUG TRADE. Your racist bigoted BS, is not being heard. You think you have the right to spread your hate about whites and U.S. citizens, just because you are a racist bigot? We have every single right, to DEPORT every single person, who is here ILLEGALLY and we will. Yes we will!! Yes we will!!!!
Do some research? I'm a racist bigot? That's interesting. Apparently you didn't read my post above. Apparently you are assuming I'm 'not white' and not a citizen. 1) We in the US created and support the drug trade and the cartels through our use of drugs and Mexico is paying the price of our degenerate habits 2) You've already lost the whole deport'em all crusade because all across the country we're plucking people out of the clutches of ICE and giving them legal means to stay here.
so right Igraysee. She says you are racist because she has no fuel to use. She is the racist and must have gotten confused. She says the "white race" is facing "global extermination" she doesn't know what her race did to the natives and the wrong still going on to this day. Also, GlindainPink is obviously unaware of how crack and acid came about. They were created by the US government. Don't believe me Glinda, go study it. It's all recorded in history Glinda if you would make use of books!
The Federal Drug Enforcement Agency along with the States passed tougher Laws to curtail drug use in the USA. The drug cartels used this to establish a lucrative drug trade. The Mexican gov. supported them by importing more ephedrine(meth ingredient) that was needed for medicines! They are reaping what they sow.
If this were true you would realize that a large portion of illegal aliens are violent gang-members, drug runners, and violent criminals (rapists/robbers/burglars). They pray on other migrants and border town US CITIZENS and THEIR PROPERTY!! Besides I don't care if you are coming here to be a criminal or work, if you enter illegal you are committing a CRIME. SO I ASK you should the BP or ICE turn their backs and let aliens come in illegally? I didn't think so!
you really think the majority of the people who came here from Mexico are "violent gang members" etc? No. Where do you live anyway? I live in Texas and there are many mexicans here. So, you think most of them are criminals? No. Most of them coexist with us. They go to school, they work, etc.
NO taken outta of context, they are NOT all gang-members. But they are all CRIMINALS! They enter illegally which makes them criminals!!!! There is NO two ways around that one. You hop a fence or a border post illegally you are a CRIMINAL alien.
R396, It is sad to see another programmed automaton whose desire to reap the benefits of NAFTA and other unfair policies that export slave labor and pollution to Mexico while shutting out the very people you are enslaving to fulfill a simpleminded need to perpetuate hegemonic racist protectionism.
Poor does not give folks the right to enter a country illegally and use fake documents to obtain material wealth. Most of them probably would not be allowed here legally. Would you have the say sympathy for some one that broke into your house or stole your car! They bring it on themselves!
ICE did the right thing. They ignored the morons. What these morons do not realize, is what they did, was to hurt themselves. Remember when the millions of ILLEGALS thought it was a good idea to march in our streets, demanding AMNESTY? U.S. citizens had their revenge and stopped two AMNESTIES just last summer. The more arrogant, these idiot Anti-American ILLEGAL ALIENS become, the more determined, WE BECOME TO DEPORT THEM. LOL!!!
Those marches were actually millions of citizens and legal residents. That day we marched this November we (the citizens) voted. The more racism y'all sling around the more determined WE become and WE vote. LOL
Igraysee: You are wrong. They were mostly made up of Mexicans, here illegally. You know how we know? They were carrying signs, demanding we make them Legal. 6,700,000 hispanics voted for Obama. 45,000,000 whites voted for Obama. Gee, I wonder who Obama, should really be worried about. When whites and U.S. citizens decide to remove these Illegals ourselves, they will not stand a chance.
Hispanics, Latinos are Caucasian. So how is it that they are being racially discriminated against? (Arizona list Hispanic as white on their drivers license).
I love it! I.C.E. didn't react to there foolishness! F.I.R.E is sort of like the Office of the President Elect, there is now such thing!Legal Immigrants do not get deported! I.C.E. doesn't raid businesses that don't hire illegal aliens! It is crime not a right.
legal immigrants do get messed with though if you would educate yourself about the things that have been happening in arizona. people are targeted because of their skin color.
Could the reason the police take a closer look at Hispanics be that the vast Majority of illegal aliens are Mexican Nationals. And that it has to do with their country of origin not skin color!
Seriouslysad: You hit the nail on the head. It is because they are Mexican. Mexican is a nationality, not a race. We have tens of millions of MEXICANS, in our country, without our permission. It is NATION, against NATION. We will win.
jkj30lsu's comments are silly. I can imagine somebody saying the same thing during the American Revolution or under apartheid. "That's what's wrong with this country. Too many people throwing tea in to the harbor. ha, give me a break." Absolutely silly, but funny too I guess, in a sad way.
Dearest jkj30lsu, Your opening statement lead me to believe an insightful response may follow. What a mistake i made. America owes its debt to the working class, let alone those who were slain for this soil we stand on. A response to immigrants living a peaceful life, being these horrific ICE raids, is oppression at its darkest point. "People have something to complain or protest about", ignorant statement being that, as MLK said, "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere". Idiot
We have no problem, with ILLEGAL ALIENS living a peaceful life. We just want them to do it, IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. ILLEGAL ALIENS are not IMMIGRANTS, they are an unwanted people, in our country, who we will remove at all costs.
This is whats wrong with this country. People always have to find something to complain or protest about. Do you know many illegal criminals or the amount of drugs these guys have kept off the streets. Racial profiling, children scared that they'll go home to an empty house. ha give me a break.
Illegal?? To who? "PatriotSue" when does one decide when people are no longer of this country? And when do Europeans become the rulers of this country? How is that legal? Because they say so?? Hey I'm going to go to a continent and stick a flag in the soil. That means I discovered it. Then I'm going to claim it as mine. Then my people will try to kill everyone living there and force the ones still alive onto the land that I don't find favorable. Once I'm done I will make laws and set borders.
sarah20xoxo: Exactly. We fought, bled, and died to win this territory. When you win a war, you win the land. Read world history. Everyone has fought wars to win territory. Just ask the Mexican Drug Cartel, who have beheaded, tortured and murdered approximately 5,000 Mexicans to win more territory for their drug business, in the past 18 months. Where is your outrage over that? You have none. You only aim your hate at U.S. citizens and whites.
i dont aim hate at us citizens dumbass. I am a us citizen. family has been here longer than yours. you dont know what i feel over other things. the things goign on in mexico are messed up too. why are u assuming you know how I feel about other things.
ennui4me, that's a very valid critique. But, I.C.E. as an organization, as well as it's fallout, directly endangers people of color. I wouldn't blame someone here illegally or being persecuted based on racial identity for not wanting to put themselves in a situation where they're surrounded by law enforcement.
WHY did these federal agents not just arrest these clowns and lock them up? The sanctimonious self-hating guilt filled moron who was spokeman for the group was, admittedly, very fun to laugh at in all of her grandiose smugness. Illegal aliens are just that, ILLEGAL. They should be deported.
BunkerGearGal 6 months ago
Wow, this is the gayest thing I've ever seen. A bunch of nerdy kids with too much time on their hands. Send all the tonks back to Mexico.
ptraiders40 7 months ago
kill ICE and INS agents
unrulyearth 11 months ago
FUCK ICE they beat my uncle and made him sign a deportation paper by force when he said no, thats unconstitutional, everyone in america has rights, read the bill of right you morons, he had no crimminal record! FIRE needs to take control of the united states and deport all these members from Ice and put it in the bill!
pimppappi702 11 months ago
@pimppappi702 Hey idiot, he wouldn't have got deported if he wasn't illegal. Illegal aliens are not protected under the constitution.
Go read a book.
ptraiders40 7 months ago
@ptraiders40 fuck that shit we should all have equals rights even if your illegle, damn cubans come from cuba illegily and they get to stay in america thats not fair, its bullshit, why aint geetin the same rights
pimppappi702 7 months ago
The ICE officers did great!! Who are these hippi FIRE ppl??
eric777100763 1 year ago
does anybody know how many crimes a person has to commit a crime to get deported?,found out a old friend was picked up by i.c.e. after 3 or 4 drug arrests.i think he has a green card? what are chances we will be deported?
nic190 1 year ago
Well, they were wearing jail jumpsuits. But Sheriff Joe makes them wear pink.
Now, you know, if you're illegal trespassing is not a crime.
At least they didn't come in throwing rocks.
NauiBitchtl 1 year ago
just saw your "clever" comment about my band AntiProduct. The name similarity is coincidental, the ethos is the same, the methodology is is different but you are a small minded and insensitive prick. "Kill yourselves"...what a douchebag.
antiproductTV 2 years ago
That was a waste of fucking time. You accomplished absolutely nothing and just made yourselves look like the bored idiots you are. Cuando trabajo para la migra, deportaré gabachos así primeros. Si yo estuviera en eso reunion, yo madrearía a esos jotos que se llaman "FIRE". Nisiquieren tienen trabajos como los illegales que apoyan. Contribuye a este país; no te quejes!
jncalhoun39 2 years ago
FUCKING FAGS! what a bunch of HOMOS!
wm45 2 years ago
THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!
Musicamante 2 years ago
Anti-immigrant people never back their arguments with facts.
it's always myths passed down by word and stereotypes. The anti-immigrant is full of myths with no credible sources, and always refers to nationalism, in and out groups who they say deserve less. that is bigotry by definition. Read up on NAFTA too dammit
mykolozano 2 years ago
@mykolozano there are no anti-immigrant people. There are how ever anti-illegal immigrant people. The person who breaks through our border and enters our country is commiting a criminal offence its known as a B&E breaking and entering. If I were to break into your house because I was cold and hungry and wanted food and warmth dont make it OK. If they want work they can find it in their own country, or come here LEGALLY.
Godzilla1909 1 year ago
FIRE and ICE, I appreciate the play on words. Very amusing! But seriously, these FIRE people are a little misguided. You don't have a right to be in this country if you came illegally, regardless of whether or not you pay taxes with a fraudulent social security or a validly obtained ITIN number. Similarly, you don't have a right to stay in this country even if you were granted lawful permanent resident status if you break certain laws in this country.
lattegurll 2 years ago
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everybody in this this stupid fucking organization achem "fire" as gay as that sounds. should go to the fucking illegals countrys and stay there for all i give a shit. There are reasons we dont want them here and if u protest that than u should be sent away just like them.
souljaboyy666 3 years ago
Way to go FLGFIRE! I respect & admire your right to peacefully & creatively protest against hatefilled, small-minded policy created by shallow-thinkers & fear mongering politicos. You stunned these fat (mostly white) conservatives. The people they're bullying aren't dangerous "illegals." They're just people. They are tearing families apart. Have they ever know hunger, poverty or real daily fear. Shame on ICE! This isn't the "Christian" thing to do. Let these people feed their children in peace.
FlagstaffFirst 3 years ago 4
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oh and by the way all u stupid fuckheads who think deportation is just a joke or that we should treat the illegals with mor dignity and all the bullshit.... remember they dont pay the tax dollars we do... there also taking half our goddamn jobs and economy... so think twice befor you say things you know nothing about.
souljaboyy666 3 years ago
How ignorant. Those "illegals" like you call them are hired to do the jobs you would never do! They do pay taxes. How can you assume that they don't?! talk about talking with out knowing.
GMJIMENEZ86 3 years ago 3
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illegals are obviousely not meant to be here for reasons and there taken back to there countries for reasons.... ICE is making damn well sure of that.
souljaboyy666 3 years ago
I think the intensity and hatred filled comments for undocumented people in these posts says it all.
bsintempe 3 years ago 8
IBMMuseum: MOST ILLEGAL ALIENS are paid under the table. There is NOTHING POSITIVE, about ILLEGAL ALIENS or TRAITORS. Both, must be brought to justice. ILLEGALS must be DEPORTED and TRAITORS, must be thrown in prison. We must confiscate the assets of all TRAITORS, liquify those assets and give it back to all TRUE U.S. CITIZENS who care about our people and our children.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
patriotsue;come on!!!give me a break!!!I know there are some emmigrants without the right documentation in this country that are up to no good but that is with everybody blacks,whites,chinesse you name it,but the vast mayority are good people,hard working people that don't mean harm to no one,you should stop wathing too much fox news and lou dobbs,those two programs only promote one thing...fear among others.you should be more opend minded and give thanks to god that you are not in those shoes.
octaviocu 3 years ago 3
octaviocu: GOOD PEOPLE do not BREAK THE LAW. That is the problem with ILLEGAL ALIENS. They think it is okay to BREAK THE LAW and they teach the same criminal bad behavior to their children. You should never be open minded to anyone, BREAKING THE LAW. You just do not do it. That is why we have laws. What do you think is going to happen, when U.S. citizens start breaking our laws, to get the ILLEGALS, OUT OF OUR COUNTRY? Will you be open minded about us, removing ILLEGALS, OURSELVES?
PatriotSue 3 years ago
patriotsue:
you are taking it to another level I am tring to make you understand in a humane lavel I know there are laws but,instead of wasting your energy blaming undocumented people,why not find a solution...you know or you should know by now that emmigration legal or illegal will never end it's been happening since 1492 remember??? so by tring to kick'em out it will simply won't work!!I myself have real reality ideas that "I THINK MY WORK" I just can't fit'em all in this little space
octaviocu 3 years ago
you wanna hear them??? if you are willing to solve the problem like many people,I will be willinng to share my views.But remember..1;these are only my views and nothing alse. 2:I expect to get hate comments but that's ok I won't get butt hurt about it.
octaviocu 3 years ago
octaviocu: You can have your opinions, but it does not change our laws. When you talk about the human level, you might want to think about the 305,000,000 U.S. human lives, that ILLEGAL ALIENS and their supporters, do not care about.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
What about the U.S. citizens married to illegal aliens (an estimated 2 million are in this relationship in the United States)? Most illegal aliens operate under the radar in the U.S., and are less prone to commit crimes than even native citizens. Stop painting them as such monsters.
IBMMuseum 3 years ago 4
Every ILLEGAL ALIEN is committing, several crimes, just to live here, illegally. They are all criminals. All of them. ILLEGAL ALIENS have murdered over 61,000 U.S. citizens. You are totally ignorant, to the crimes of ILLEGALS, against us and our children.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
61,000 U.S. citizens murdered over what timeframe? Where is this data from? I'm not ignorant, but I am lost when you say every illegal alien is committing these sort crimes, in high amounts, with no other information or references.
IBMMuseum 3 years ago 5
I think it's more accurate to say that every illegal alien in this country has broken a law. Being here illegally in the US isn't necessarily a crime.
lattegurll 2 years ago
Yes, it is correct to say immigration is is civil, rather than criminal, violation. But not every undomented person or visa overstay has broken a law. A minor child is treated as not being culpable in the eyes of the law, for instance.
IBMMuseum 2 years ago
Octaviocu: I blame the ILLEGALS for being ILLEGAL and all the criminal and societal problems they cause, from being ILLEGAL.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
hey patriotsue...the problem in california is not the so called "illegals" the problem in california and most of the states is that a dumb ass president did not know how to run the country well...but as usual....blame the illegals....what's next for the illegals to take the blame....global warming????
octaviocu 3 years ago
octaviocu: Nah, I just blame the ILLEGALS for being ILLEGAL. I know, you do not know the difference, between a LEGAL IMMIGRANT and an ILLEGAL. That is the problem.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
patriotsue, that is not what you said 1 day ago read all your comments, did you already forgot what you said???
octaviocu 3 years ago
Octaviocu: Oh really? I would love to see that post. Why do you not copy and paste it, in your next comment.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
yes
barndogy 3 years ago
I see a lot of coconuts...
ceomeye 3 years ago
Wow, I would've given a kidney to be present for that! Kudos to FIRE for making a bold statement in a creative and non-violent way. I look forward to seeing more of FIRE's handiwork. =)
glyphhunter 3 years ago
Igrayson: You have no world to take back. You are the minority. It is not the 60's anymore. No bad white boogeyman killing people of color. No matter how much you wish it to be so. It isn't. ILLEGALS HAVE MURDERED U.S. CITIZENS, at a far more alarming rate, than we have killed them. You are the new face of bigotry and racism, towards all U.S. citizens and whites. You are a racist bigoted traitor.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Where are you getting your homocide stats from? Certainly not from the FBI website. If this is happening why haven't there been any citizens murdered by immigrants here so close to the border? In fact the BP itself can't point to one incident of a citizen being harmed by a migrant. Though many migrants have been murdered by gringos. And I am bigoted and racist against myself and all the 'white' citizens that work with me to provide humanitarian aid. Si se puede - yes we can.
lgraysee 3 years ago
Igraysee: Here is our new U.S. American slogan: YES WE WILL!! YES WE WILL!!! YES WE WILL, REMOVE EVERY ILLEGAL AND TRAITOR, from our great U.S.A. Yes, you are a racist and a bigot. You want SPECIAL PREFERENTIAL RIGHTS for one group, ILLEGAL ALIENS, while another group, U.S. American citizens, you discriminate against. To continue, to expect us to follow our laws, while you aide and abet ILLEGALS to break our laws, is a very dangerous expectation. YES WE WILL start breaking OUR LAWS, to defend.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
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fuckrock67 3 years ago
Easy PatriotSue... Take your pill before you pop a vein in your narrow little brain.
onse11han 3 years ago 2
ones11han: STFU, traitor. In the next 5 years, probably a whole lot sooner, all U.S. citizens are going to have to make a choice. Do you stand with us, the American U.S. citizens or do you stand with traitors and their ILLEGAL ALIEN scum? Don't forget traitor, THEY BROUGHT THIS TO US. If they would have stayed in their own countries, what is going to happen, would not have to happen. The only ones they have to blame, is their ILLEGAL ALIEN selves.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Patriot, it's always refreshing to read such dreck from barking nutters like yourself. I hope you receive the much needed cranial-rectumology and realize your hegemony is the product of a forced immigration of a bunch of sexually repressed nutbags. Anyway, happy solstace and don't forget to bite down hard on your cyanide capsule when La Raza takes Arizona back.
leftboot77 3 years ago 3
They've already taken it back. Never left it when the US stole the land in the first place. Oh, I mean when the US "bought" the land from Mexico after "winning" the war that Texas started back when it didn't want to be part of the US.
lgraysee 3 years ago
Igraysee: How long, do you think it will take us, to push them back into their country, when we decide to? They can pretend all they want, that they are here to stay. Let them pretend, but soon, they will be awakened to the reality: This is NOT THEIR HOME. Let them sleep for now, in their deluded world of pretend.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
leftboot77: War is coming. Can't wait.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
We'll kick over your burning cross and take back this world.
leftboot77 3 years ago 2
leftboot77: ROFLOL!!!! LOL!!!! LOL!!! Hee hee Hee Hee LOL!!! What happens, when you push a people into a corner? Wait and see. Our time is coming. Sooner than you think. LOL!!! This will not be my laugh laugh. We may lose a few battles, but WE WILL WIN THE WAR!!! *I am doing a little dance right now.* Can't wait to do it on the graves of traitors, after the war starts.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
*last laugh, not laugh laugh. Hey, even us geniuses make mistakes. LOL!!
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Leftboot77 - we already kicked over their burning cross and we took back the world. The ignorant, intolerant and uneducated never succeed in the long run. I think though that maybe rabies vaccines ought to be required for some of these folks.
lgraysee 3 years ago
Igraysee: What about OUR CHILDREN? We know, you do not CARE ABOUT OUR CHILDREN, but, you know what, we really do not care. WE CARE ABOUT OUR CHILDREN and their right to A FUTURE in THEIR AMERICA. You far leftist loons, are so caught up in your Anti-American deluded world, you really cannot see. You cannot see, how much you are truly hated and despised by the majority of U.S. citizens. WE DO NOT GIVE A F*** about ILLEGALS or the world. What have they done for us and our children? Nada!
PatriotSue 3 years ago
That's the difference between me and you. I care about ALL children, especially yours. You and your kids would have nothing if not for migrants. No fruits, no veggies, no meat, no dairy. And tell me how is it that I am despised when the majority of the US voted for the same ticket I did. And now my governor is going to be in charge of DHS. Oops, there goes the fence and the ICE raids and the SS ...
lgraysee 3 years ago
all my fruits and veggies are grown on my property... so i have nothing to thank mexican immigrants for and im from california.
You cant say you care about all children... you are advocating illegal actions against the population of the USA by invaders from Mexico...
Guys on the right and guys on the left want illegal immigration stopped. You are despised by both sides. If the mexican immigrants want to come to the USA they can do it legally and stop using tax dollars for their healthcare
ocpunkelite86 3 years ago
Good to know that you grow all your own fruits and veggies. More folks should do that. Do you also raise and slaughter all your own meat?
Also I really wish you folks would get some accurate data on whole "they're a drain on our tax dollars" crap. CA, AZ and TX in addition to a number of other non-partisan groups have done numerous studies that prove that these people are a net asset to our economy. Like they're keeping SS afloat for the baby boomers.
lgraysee 3 years ago
Igraysee: LOL!!! Look at California. Governor Arnold is begging for billions of dollars to get out of his ILLEGAL ALIEN mess. Most ILLEGALS, do not pay INCOME TAX, you lie. They are paid under the table. In all over statistics, ILLEGAL ALIENS only make up 5 to 6 % of our working populace. They are all, mostly low-income earners, who pay no real taxes. The Golden State of California has become a third world cesspool. When whites start fleeing a state, it is because, the quality of life is gone.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Igrayson: There are 77,000,000 baby boomers and 20,000,000 ILLEGALS, who pay nothing in S.S. They do not have Social Security numbers, only U.S. citizens do. Now, Iraysee, explain to everyone, how ILLEGAL ALIENS can pay into Social Security, if they do not have Social Security numbers? Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder how.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Wrong, U.S. citizens are not the only ones with Social Security numbers, Legal Permanent Residents have them as well. You inflate illegal alien numbers, but discount that they (and ¨baby boomers¨) pay into Social Security. If you don´t understand how it works, then how can you make statements about it?
IBMMuseum 3 years ago 2
Again, you are wrong. We are not talking about LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. We are talking about ILLEGAL ALIENS. The only way, an ILLEGAL ALIEN can pay into Social Security, is with someone else's stolen Social Security number.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
You said that only U.S. citizens have Social Security numbers and got 0wned on it. Now you say an illegal *can* pay into Social Security, changing from earlier statements. ¨PatriotSue¨, you are all over the map with your ¨facts¨ - How do you expect to be believed and taken seriously?
IBMMuseum 3 years ago
IBMMuseum: I said, ILLEGAL ALIENS do not have LEGAL SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS. The only way ILLEGAL ALIENS can pay into Social Security, is by using a Stolen Social Security number. Everything, they do from the moment they enter our country, illegally or over stay their visa, illegally is ILLEGAL.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
IBMMuseau: Nothing you say or any traitor posts about ILLEGAL ALIENS, does not change the fact, they are CRIMINALS, who must be punished. It is that simple. ILLEGAL ALIENS have to leave. They must be DEPORTED. I want to see ALL TRAITORS punished with severe prison time. If you stand with ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS, you are a TRAITOR.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Illegal aliens in some rare cases may not have to leave, and for some others it may only be a brief exit before being able to re-enter as a legal resident. If married to a U.S. citizen, the unauthorized work they have done in the United States is even forgiven. That isn't my call - It's immigration law policies.
The cases I mention are rare, and usually involve marriage to U.S. citizens. But is a path to becoming a Legal Permanent Resident for some. To see it only in black and white is wrong.
IBMMuseum 3 years ago
I don't personally know any illegal aliens or "illegal foreign nationals", and I don't think if you truthfully knew me you would call me a traitor. All I am doing is correcting your false statements. Whether you choose to attack my character is up to you, but it greatly weakens any arguments or points you have.
IBMMuseum 3 years ago
They are not false statements. ILLEGAL ALIENS do not have Social Security numbers. They have SOMEONE ELSE'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, THEY STOLE.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
"...They [illegal aliens] do not have Social Security numbers, only U.S. citizens do..."
That is the quote I called you on, factually incorrect that "only U.S. citizens" have Social Security numbers. And actually a visa overstay could be after something like marrying a U.S. citizen, in waiting to "Adjust Status" to being a lawful immigrant with USCIS. That does take some time, and is an accepted process under the rule of immigration law (which, BTW, is civil, not crimminal, law).
IBMMuseum 3 years ago
IBMMuseum: Being in the country illegally, is a civil offense, but it is one, that comes with punishment, which is DEPORTATION. Now, all the other laws they break, like STEALING SOMEONE ELSE'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER or using a fake one is a felony, which is way criminal. They drive illegally, without a license or insurance. Those are just a few of their crimes, you support.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Regardless of any of that. How the fuck were white europeans legal!? They were colonizers that commited indigenous genocide. Centuries later they have the audacity to claim the descendents of those indigenous people illegal?! Bring this shit up to the few native americans left, see what they have to say.
imdonewithit 3 years ago 3
imdonewithit: Have you read world war history? Now, what normally happens, when the winner of a war, any war wins? They win the territory and the F***ING right to run the country, as they see fit. Bring this shit up to the Russians, Chinese, Germans, whoever. Tell all these countries, who won their countries, by winning in wars, to give back their land. LOL!! Right.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
imdonewithit: Right now, there is war going on down in Mexico. The Mexican Drug Cartel is fighting for territory. They are trying to expand their illegal drug business. They are killing every Mexican they can, that stands in their way of winning that territory. Everyone, of every race, has fought for territory, since the beginning of time. But, racists like you, only have a problem when whites do the same exact thing, as so-called "people of color".
PatriotSue 3 years ago
LOL!!!!! Bush did everything he could, with an majority Democrat Congress to pass an Amnesty, twice, last summer. Both times, the U.S. citizens, stopped it. We will stop it again, again and again. You care nothing for U.S. citizens or our children. You are a traitor. Take your traitor a** and go help the children of the world, in their countries, WITH YOUR OWN MONEY. Obama wants to win again, in 2012. He isn't going to piss off the people who voted for him. He knows, we want ILLEGALS DEPORTED.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Do YOU search the border region of the deserts of S. AZ, looking for dying human beings in the heat of June? Do you attend the court sessions of Operation Streamline to witness the so-called justice they receive? Have you ever spoken with a migrant? With a Border Patrol agent in the field? Have you ever cleaned and bandaged blistered, infected feet; treated hyperthermia or hypothermia? Have you even found a dead human being that the animals have been feeding on?Want your kid to die like that
lgraysee 3 years ago
Igraysee: WE DON'T F***ING CARE!!!!! YOUR PET ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE MURDERED 61,000 U.S. CITIZENS!!! I do not hear any compassion from you, for the tens of thousand U.S. FAMILIES, WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES, AT THE HANDS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS. Your continued blind support of criminal ILLEGAL ALIENS, SICKENS US. You care nothing FOR OUR PEOPLE, but you are IGNORANT AND DUMBF***ED enough, to believe we will care about yours. Yours, being ILLEGAL ALIENS.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Igraysee: Your people, ILLEGAL ALIENS, put themselves in the desert. WE DON'T. We, the American people are so sick of the idiotic spew, that comes from your treasonous mouths. WE HAVE CHILDREN, you ignorant F***. Do you thing for a second, these low-life scum bags, care about, whether or not, we have jobs to feed our children? Of course, they do not, you traitor. Why in the hell, would we care about a people, who could give a F*** about us and our children. Do you have a F***ing brain?
PatriotSue 3 years ago
The really sad thing is that these good, decent people do care, they wouldn't turn their backs to anyone in need. And they certainly don't speak about gringos in the vile and obscene manner you are using to speak of them and your fellow citizens. How ironic that so many of them work in care facilities attending to our elderly parents that we don't have the time for.
lgraysee 3 years ago
Hmm, so if someone doesn't believe that people of color are subhuman they're automatically a traitor? Interesting.
lgraysee 3 years ago
Its already ridiculous that ICE cannot enforce immigration laws. But its utterly pathetic that these self-deprecating European Americans are actually defending the rights of 3rd world criminals to stay in this country, raping its economy, and painting ICE as the bad ones. Geez ... They would cringe in horror if they ever saw my plan for border control of illegal mexican immigration.
TheRantt 3 years ago
no i quoted you right. you said "tiny little white people". and you are trying to say there is a "deliberate global extermination" of the white race. thats fucking ignorant. the white people are the ones who came to this country and tried to wipe out an entire civilization that did nothing but good to them. The Europeans that came here raped women, killed children, even babies! They took the kids away and put them in boarding schools where the kids were beat, raped, tortured in the name of God.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago
who are you praying to? cuz god does not hear or grant hate requests.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago
you are wrong. caucasians were not here before. tiny little people? fucking idiot. YOU are ignorant and pathetic. What you say is made up theories to cover your pilgrim ass. As you are not going to recognize the reality we live in, there is no point in talking to you. It's going in one ear and out the other with your hollow head.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago
GlindainPink: Mexicans are still savage to each other. No outrage about that, though. I guess, brown on brown heinous atrocities are okay. Oh, but, let a white person or an U.S. citizen, just assault an ILLEGAL and it becomes World News. That is the new bigotry and racism, against all U.S. citizens and whites.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Thanks GlinainPink: You are pretty brilliant, yourself. We patriots, have to stick together. Great Posts. We just have to keep on fighting. We will win.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
"why don't YOU true to go to meheeco" wtf are you saying? If you are saying "try" to go to Mexico, I've been. No, some areas are not safe, but thats not the point. stealing from americans? america was paved and stolen from natives. so whatever its up for grabs. hahaha. but anyway im born and raised and so is my family.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago
The Old Guard of the Flagstaff activist community have commented to me that they are extremely proud of this action. I want to personally say that this action was a creative way to show ICE that there is a great deal of outrage over their goosestepping in my community. Bravo mi hermanos y hermanas. I'm so very proud of you. Paz y Justicia por vida.
leftboot77 3 years ago 3
Hmmmm, 3 people proud of being idiots. Well, we have that one beat. 80% of 304,000,000 U.S. citizens are proud of ICE. Every time ICE raids a corporation and rounds up hundreds of ILLEGALS and DEPORTS them, we are proud. There are more ICE raids to come. The U.S. citizens are demanding a moratorium on all immigration, even legal. It is time we send a clear message. We do not have to let anyone in, if we do not want to. The U.S. does not need the world. The world needs us.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
seriouslysad, you are... seriously, sad.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago
sarah20xoxo - isn't it interesting how the level of intelligent, reasonable conversation just vaporizes when you challenge these folks with fact. I am a front line witness to all that is going on but to them I still don't know what I'm talking about. Even with training in the law regarding this issue and daily experience with all the parties involved these folks who apparently get all their info from Lou Dobbs know more than anyone.
lgraysee 3 years ago
sarah20xoxo: We came here, to build a better nation to live in peace. We built this country, NOT ILLEGAL ALIENS. The MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL is murdering, torturing, raping and committing atrocities against their children, to expand their territory, FOR ILLEGAL DRUGS. Oh, but not a word, from an Anti-American hateful bigot like you. We see who the true racist bigots are. It is hateful people like you. You want to do something real. Go down to Mexico and protest the heinous atrocities, of Mexicans.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
oh really? living in peace? so then what happened to those who lived here before?? learn some shit before you pretend to be a "patriot". you don't know what really goes on to this day like i do. you call me "antiamerican". you don't know shit about me.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago
Sarah20xoxo: If a war breaks out, who will you stand with? ILLEGAL ALIENS or U.S. AMERICAN CITIZENS?
PatriotSue 3 years ago
I'll stand back eating some popcorn, drinking lemonade, with an ak and other weapons at my hand. whoever wins gets the country right? isnt that what you are all about? Now go away you are annoying.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago
You are very anti-american period. enough said, you can argue all you want but you are a fucking traitor commie scum.
Nord420 3 years ago
sarah20xoxo: The Mexican Drug Cartel is torturing, beheading, raping and killing every single Mexican in their path, to expand their territory to sell more drugs. WHERE IS YOUR OUTRAGE ABOUT THAT? There is none. You only care, when the perpetrators are white or U.S. citizens. Who could give a shit, if Mexicans are murdering, raping, torturing and they are doing this today. What do you do? You go on and on, about whites, doing the same exact thing, but hundreds of years ago.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
sarah20xoxo: Mexican children came out of their school, just a few weeks ago, to see several dead Mexican men, propped against the fence, with their heads chopped off and signs of torture. Mexicans passing under a bridge, had to stare at a dead tortured headless body, hanging upside down. All of these are messages from the Mexican Drug Cartel. They are doing this NOW, TODAY. The Mexican Drug Cartel kidnapped a little 5 year old child and murdered the child, with a lethal injection.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
what does this have to do with what you previously said?
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago
If you tell me to "go back to Europe," you're going to get a response. Not one you'll like.
And "F" that little Marxist/racist Kristin Sin-enema. She needs a boot up her fat culo.
RackEmPunk 3 years ago
One of the ICE agents should have told that clown with the deportation sign that since he had it, he knew it was time to leave this country or be arrested. They should have arrested them all and checked their status. It's funny that most of the officers were amused at the stupidity shown by those fools,
pitter43 3 years ago
You could see the ICE melting in their chairs.
Acumensch 3 years ago 4
MissouriManiac is a moron. Please accept this apology from the rest of Missouri.
This video reminds of when a mentally disturbed person walks up to you and asks you if you like cheese or if you know where the mothership landed. You just kind of smile back and hope they go away. Thanks for wasting the bandwidth.
Maybe these people ought to go volunteer where it really matters or at least try to get a girlfriend or something.
azsheepdog 3 years ago
Just so you know, there's no such thing as an illegal immigrant. An immigrant comes to this country legally. We do have laws to follow, you know. If I thought murder was OK, then you think murder is OK????
pitter43 3 years ago
Igraysee: Basic Human Rights, include punishing people who break the law. We are not torturing, beating, or treating ILLEGAL ALIENS inhumanely. We are treating them EQUALLY, to the way we treat our own U.S. CITIZENS. We are punishing them, for breaking our laws. If you are here, illegally, the punishment is DEPORTATION. We are sending the ILLEGALS HOME. This is not their HOME. It is our and it is our HUMAN RIGHT to protect it, at all costs.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Sorry to say but we are torturing, beating, murdering, and killing hispanic people, whether or not they are here legally or not. If someone is here on a valid visa or is a legal permanent resident they are not in any way shape or form 'illegal'. But la migra and ICE only differentiate on the basis of skin color with the result that no one who appears hispanic is safe from abuse, harassment, imprisonment or deportation including CITIZENS. How do I know this? Because I see it happen every day.
lgraysee 3 years ago
Also these people called FIRE are a joke! A bunch of white liberals who feel good about themselves because they "think" they are protecting minority rights...
R396 3 years ago
you don't know what race or background they are. Every human being has rights as a human. You are on stolen land. Go home.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago 2
Your statement is foolish. ICE is protecting America. More should do it.
pitter43 3 years ago
How if you jump a border and enter a country illegal do you have rights?? WTF! If this is true they should be arrested for disorderly conduct and trespassing. GO ICE
R396 3 years ago
Every human being within the boundaries of the USA has basic civil rights regardless of their immigration status. ICE and the Border Patrol regularly ignore the system of rights and laws guaranteed to everyone here (including citizens, legal residents and visitors with valid visas) under our Constitution. If you have such a problem with the idea of guaranteed rights for all human beings might I suggest emigrating to someplace like Sudan.
lgraysee 3 years ago 3
Igraysee: It is NO ONE'S HUMAN RIGHT to break the law. If ILLEGAL ALIENS have the right to BREAK OUR LAWS, it is not going to be long, before 304,000,000 U.S. CITIZENS start breaking our laws to survive. Mexico DEPORTS anyone in their country, illegally. We have the SAME EQUAL RIGHTS to do the same.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
It wasnt black peoples rights to break the law either during the civil rights movement.
It wasnt the Native Americans right to break the Idea of Manifest Destiny either.
Laws are not always constitutional or right.
Your defense of the destruction of our economy is beyond all measure. Your defense of the brutal destruction of families and creating mass burdens of state due to the ignorance that people like you spew is beyond all measure.
MissouriManiac 3 years ago 3
The FACT that I am 10 times more likely to be brutalized by nationalistic xenophobes like you than any immigrant regardless of their legal status, is enough for me.
MissouriManiac 3 years ago
An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.
You are a peice of injustice that the USA can do without.
MissouriManiac 3 years ago 2
NO you are WRONG! One someone might have some rights during an arrest situation. But illegal immigrants are NOT citizens. Secondly, without immigration enforcement (border controls/investigations) there is no such thing as a sovereign nation. Lastly, you make a huge stupid statement about ICE and Border Patrol. HOW DO YOU know what they do? I guarantee you are making liberal ASSumptions about them without any real knowledge.
R396 3 years ago
No ASSumptions here. My information comes from working with the undocumented; in the desert, in the courts, on the streets, in detention and during and after deportation. I know what ICE and la migra do because I SEE it with MY OWN EYES, every day.
lgraysee 3 years ago
Igraysee: Stop complaining about ICE doing their job. Do some research on the thousands of bodies, the Mexican Drug Cartel are leaving in their wake to expand their ILLEGAL DRUG TRADE. Your racist bigoted BS, is not being heard. You think you have the right to spread your hate about whites and U.S. citizens, just because you are a racist bigot? We have every single right, to DEPORT every single person, who is here ILLEGALLY and we will. Yes we will!! Yes we will!!!!
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Do some research? I'm a racist bigot? That's interesting. Apparently you didn't read my post above. Apparently you are assuming I'm 'not white' and not a citizen. 1) We in the US created and support the drug trade and the cartels through our use of drugs and Mexico is paying the price of our degenerate habits 2) You've already lost the whole deport'em all crusade because all across the country we're plucking people out of the clutches of ICE and giving them legal means to stay here.
lgraysee 3 years ago
so right Igraysee. She says you are racist because she has no fuel to use. She is the racist and must have gotten confused. She says the "white race" is facing "global extermination" she doesn't know what her race did to the natives and the wrong still going on to this day. Also, GlindainPink is obviously unaware of how crack and acid came about. They were created by the US government. Don't believe me Glinda, go study it. It's all recorded in history Glinda if you would make use of books!
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago
The Federal Drug Enforcement Agency along with the States passed tougher Laws to curtail drug use in the USA. The drug cartels used this to establish a lucrative drug trade. The Mexican gov. supported them by importing more ephedrine(meth ingredient) that was needed for medicines! They are reaping what they sow.
seriouslysad 3 years ago
If this were true you would realize that a large portion of illegal aliens are violent gang-members, drug runners, and violent criminals (rapists/robbers/burglars). They pray on other migrants and border town US CITIZENS and THEIR PROPERTY!! Besides I don't care if you are coming here to be a criminal or work, if you enter illegal you are committing a CRIME. SO I ASK you should the BP or ICE turn their backs and let aliens come in illegally? I didn't think so!
R396 3 years ago
you really think the majority of the people who came here from Mexico are "violent gang members" etc? No. Where do you live anyway? I live in Texas and there are many mexicans here. So, you think most of them are criminals? No. Most of them coexist with us. They go to school, they work, etc.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago
NO taken outta of context, they are NOT all gang-members. But they are all CRIMINALS! They enter illegally which makes them criminals!!!! There is NO two ways around that one. You hop a fence or a border post illegally you are a CRIMINAL alien.
R396 3 years ago
R396, It is sad to see another programmed automaton whose desire to reap the benefits of NAFTA and other unfair policies that export slave labor and pollution to Mexico while shutting out the very people you are enslaving to fulfill a simpleminded need to perpetuate hegemonic racist protectionism.
leftboot77 3 years ago
Poor does not give folks the right to enter a country illegally and use fake documents to obtain material wealth. Most of them probably would not be allowed here legally. Would you have the say sympathy for some one that broke into your house or stole your car! They bring it on themselves!
seriouslysad 3 years ago
A sovereign nation has a right to decide who may be admitted. Illegal aliens (for that is the correct term) have no right to be here.
If they wish to live here they should do what every other law abiding immigrant has done - request permission.
By being here illegally, they have deprived us of the right to determine their suitability for admittance to this country.
The FIRE people were clowns - in my day, we would have not sit idly by, but would have marched them out of the room immediately.
nbrooks503 3 years ago
Civil Rights imply citizen! Visitors and illegal aliens are not citizens of the United States. They are visitors and trespassers!
seriouslysad 3 years ago
Maybe if they had just locked the door this all could have been avoided. Novel idea, I know.
jctradecraft 3 years ago
Great Homeland Security there. I know that I really feel safe.
chubpa 3 years ago
ICE did the right thing. They ignored the morons. What these morons do not realize, is what they did, was to hurt themselves. Remember when the millions of ILLEGALS thought it was a good idea to march in our streets, demanding AMNESTY? U.S. citizens had their revenge and stopped two AMNESTIES just last summer. The more arrogant, these idiot Anti-American ILLEGAL ALIENS become, the more determined, WE BECOME TO DEPORT THEM. LOL!!!
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Those marches were actually millions of citizens and legal residents. That day we marched this November we (the citizens) voted. The more racism y'all sling around the more determined WE become and WE vote. LOL
lgraysee 3 years ago
Igraysee: You are wrong. They were mostly made up of Mexicans, here illegally. You know how we know? They were carrying signs, demanding we make them Legal. 6,700,000 hispanics voted for Obama. 45,000,000 whites voted for Obama. Gee, I wonder who Obama, should really be worried about. When whites and U.S. citizens decide to remove these Illegals ourselves, they will not stand a chance.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Hispanics, Latinos are Caucasian. So how is it that they are being racially discriminated against? (Arizona list Hispanic as white on their drivers license).
seriouslysad 3 years ago
I love it! I.C.E. didn't react to there foolishness! F.I.R.E is sort of like the Office of the President Elect, there is now such thing!Legal Immigrants do not get deported! I.C.E. doesn't raid businesses that don't hire illegal aliens! It is crime not a right.
seriouslysad 3 years ago
legal immigrants do get messed with though if you would educate yourself about the things that have been happening in arizona. people are targeted because of their skin color.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago 2
Could the reason the police take a closer look at Hispanics be that the vast Majority of illegal aliens are Mexican Nationals. And that it has to do with their country of origin not skin color!
seriouslysad 3 years ago
Seriouslysad: You hit the nail on the head. It is because they are Mexican. Mexican is a nationality, not a race. We have tens of millions of MEXICANS, in our country, without our permission. It is NATION, against NATION. We will win.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
So how do you suppose the police decide someone is hispanic?
lgraysee 3 years ago
By their actions!
seriouslysad 3 years ago
jkj30lsu's comments are silly. I can imagine somebody saying the same thing during the American Revolution or under apartheid. "That's what's wrong with this country. Too many people throwing tea in to the harbor. ha, give me a break." Absolutely silly, but funny too I guess, in a sad way.
bsintempe 3 years ago
love it. people on their feet confronting injustice. GO.
nezua 3 years ago
ha ha! very funny
ibilldavis 3 years ago
Dearest jkj30lsu, Your opening statement lead me to believe an insightful response may follow. What a mistake i made. America owes its debt to the working class, let alone those who were slain for this soil we stand on. A response to immigrants living a peaceful life, being these horrific ICE raids, is oppression at its darkest point. "People have something to complain or protest about", ignorant statement being that, as MLK said, "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere". Idiot
thecursivewar 3 years ago 2
We have no problem, with ILLEGAL ALIENS living a peaceful life. We just want them to do it, IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. ILLEGAL ALIENS are not IMMIGRANTS, they are an unwanted people, in our country, who we will remove at all costs.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
you call yourself a patriot but you are really a joke. Educate yourself you puppet. You are on STOLEN LAND. Too bad your people came here.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago 2
You need to learn to se with eyes that see today, not with eyes that see 100 years ago. Just to bring you up to speed, it's 2008. Times have changed.
pitter43 3 years ago
This is whats wrong with this country. People always have to find something to complain or protest about. Do you know many illegal criminals or the amount of drugs these guys have kept off the streets. Racial profiling, children scared that they'll go home to an empty house. ha give me a break.
jkj30lsu 3 years ago
This is brilliant!
bsintempe 3 years ago
keep up the good work.
love and light.
sharedfaith 3 years ago
Yes, ICE keep up the GOOD WORK, removing all ILLEGAL ALIENS from our great country, the U.S.A. Better you do it, than angry enraged U.S. citizens.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
Illegal?? To who? "PatriotSue" when does one decide when people are no longer of this country? And when do Europeans become the rulers of this country? How is that legal? Because they say so?? Hey I'm going to go to a continent and stick a flag in the soil. That means I discovered it. Then I'm going to claim it as mine. Then my people will try to kill everyone living there and force the ones still alive onto the land that I don't find favorable. Once I'm done I will make laws and set borders.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago 5
sarah20xoxo: Exactly. We fought, bled, and died to win this territory. When you win a war, you win the land. Read world history. Everyone has fought wars to win territory. Just ask the Mexican Drug Cartel, who have beheaded, tortured and murdered approximately 5,000 Mexicans to win more territory for their drug business, in the past 18 months. Where is your outrage over that? You have none. You only aim your hate at U.S. citizens and whites.
PatriotSue 3 years ago
i dont aim hate at us citizens dumbass. I am a us citizen. family has been here longer than yours. you dont know what i feel over other things. the things goign on in mexico are messed up too. why are u assuming you know how I feel about other things.
sarah20xoxo 3 years ago 2
Awesome! Love the silence. FIRE will melt the ICE.
lovinthevegans 3 years ago
incredible! very creative. hopefully someday we'll be organized and armed enough to really deport ICE!
pongop 3 years ago
ennui4me, that's a very valid critique. But, I.C.E. as an organization, as well as it's fallout, directly endangers people of color. I wouldn't blame someone here illegally or being persecuted based on racial identity for not wanting to put themselves in a situation where they're surrounded by law enforcement.
filthpuke 3 years ago
Let's see more like this. Melt the ICE!
q1u2i3d 3 years ago 2
Excellent!. I love it. Good job.
5 Stars. Keep up the great work.
Humanleague002 3 years ago 2
Looks like there are more Hispanics with ICE than with FIRE, maybe ICE should protest FIRE to promote diversity...
ennui4me 3 years ago
Great job everyone!!!
jakobei 3 years ago 3