The doctor must have felt so macho - climbing out his helicopter. Walking past "Good morning. I'm a doctor. Out of my way". With the epic moustache to go!
Video should remain as it is a record of a public service in operation in a public place. CrystalPlacenut didn'tt have to search out the video, didn't have to watch it. His family's recovery will not be affected by others watching it.
The shows the team effort of police helping HEMS.
A typical response after a trauma is to apportion blame, even in activities not directly associated with the actual event, like posting a video.
Stay and Play. London HEMS has a 20 year database of every single patient. so stay and play / swoop and scoop bith have their place. The overall plan is to keep on scene time to minimum. But what is the point of running a patient that has no airway, still actively bleeding, ventilatory poor etc?? these get corrected then the patient is transported to the correct hospital. neuro, thoracic, multi, burns etc.
3) the medical team is an experienced Doc and Paramedic. There is no leade, both work together and both carry out interventions. So if it is a thoracotomy they are both cutting into the thoracic cavity, the roles swap about and both formulate an action plan. the docs are highly respected and not on a jolly. It's a formula that works and is being taken up by essex, kent, surrey, gnas etc. There is a lot of opposition from some areas but in my experience this works very well.
2) HEMS London have always been dual pilot. Basically because landing in this city is fraught with dangers such as FOD, traffic, wires, people running up to MS as it lands! Plus as one pilot spins her up to take off the other pilot is outside (plus / minus police) to stop people approaching the disc to take pics. I've even seen a dad with his kid on his shoulders approaching to take a pic!
Well said 110csw. HEMS is the best and deserves as much publicity as possible. This video shows a helicopter landed and a crew being given a lift. Issue closed.
I've read all the comments and I don't know what all the fuss is about. Just shows the helicopter in a field and the crew jumping into a Police car that, I assume, takes them to the incident. Your time would be better spent fund raising for the skilled crew that helped your mother than whining about nothing.
Physician input in a pre-hospital environment is yet to be scientifically proven as effective. But the doctors love the excitement - especially if they can do it in a helicopter - and that's all that matters. You doctors are just so coooool
Although it may not be proven effective - in the UK (i dont know about Australian drug laws) there are certain drugs which can only be administered by a Doctor/under doctors supervision.
London HEMS is very unusual with its doctor onboard - most counties have to rely on medical teams from a nearby hospital if they requite a doctor.
That is BS. Tension pneumos/haemos, chest drains, central line placement in periphereal shutdown, rapid sequence induction in trauma, drug administration, ACLS, ATLS...all done by a doctor. With all due respect to paramedics (they are really lifesavers and better than most doctors in prehospital care) a doctor on board serious trauma calls is useful.
Lots of interventions mentioned - many of which are practised by paramedics in other countries. My appologies - I assumed UK medics could do stuff like administer drugs, perform RSI's and decompress tension pnuemos and until now I've never heard of central line placement in the pre-hospital field (isn't IO access considered in such cases??). I guess you guys have a stay and play philosophy.
Sorry, I thouht you were from a UK background ;) Yes, paramedics are not approved to perform RSIs with drugs..perhaps central line placement was a bit optimistic, I'm not too sure. The benefit of having doctors in HEMS is that HEMS deals with the worst trauma and having specialists in emergency medicine and anaesthetics is useful in giving support to paramedics in dealing with awkward cases. Being specialists, they reduce the RSI failure rate from 7.6% US paras to 1.3% HEMS docs, as an example.
No worries. As far as RSI in the pre-hosptital arena goes - it seems the State of Victoria in Australia has trained SPECIALISTS paramedics up to a standard that exceeds the HEMS docs failure rate - but then again the indication for RSI in the pre-hospital field may be different to you guys. Central line placement in the pre- hopspital arena - no way. Cross clamping the aorta IN THE FIELD is considered too radical - but then again better than being DEAD.
No patient images,name or indication of where they are going. Complete patient confidentiality. In the states we have the HIPPA law. This video I believe would pass that with flying colors. All they say is a lovely good morning even though they are going to a bad accident.
Thank you for your comment, Had this video contained any sensitive material i would or course seeked permission from those involved or not posted it . Rgds Simone
I think you've to remove the video, because there're yet many videos about London Air Ambulance...if someone want to look this crew on action, could watch other videos.
This vid is very nice, anyway, this job is my dream for the future..as paramedic and nursing student!
Simone, thanks for your message, I think it is only right to respect his wishes and remove the video. I and many others have HEMS videos that highlight what a great job they do. Best regards, James
Thank you ,Thank you All for your input regarding this video i decided after careful consideration to leave this video avalible for the public to see its show none of the accident scene & highlights hems & crew only . Everytime these guys are called out it involes a serious injury or fatality . Of course you have the option not to watch it . Rgds Simone
the lady in the accident was my mum who was seriously injured and only just come out of hospital in past couple of days i know no harm is intended in the postin but it has bought back very bad memories please consider removing it so we can put the past few weeks behind us thank you
crystal, just be quiet, its not actually showing your injured mother if any, thire are plenty of videos on HEMS on You Tube, without the description, this could have been in Hyde Park, plus if you dont want to watch it, dont come on again.
I think thats something for you to do, telling people to remove there videos. Cant you start a sentance other than 'how about' well fuck your how abouts, cos i wont be listening to your stupid suggestions.
The doctor must have felt so macho - climbing out his helicopter. Walking past "Good morning. I'm a doctor. Out of my way". With the epic moustache to go!
koolyman 3 months ago
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koolyman 3 months ago
nice to see the met helping the hems out.
PoliceAmbulanceFire 7 months ago
Video should remain as it is a record of a public service in operation in a public place. CrystalPlacenut didn'tt have to search out the video, didn't have to watch it. His family's recovery will not be affected by others watching it.
The shows the team effort of police helping HEMS.
A typical response after a trauma is to apportion blame, even in activities not directly associated with the actual event, like posting a video.
Censorship of citizen journos is to be avoided.
Mickjoebill
memilesb1 1 year ago
Thanks to Mia for posting this.
gixertrix 2 years ago
Thank You , gixertrix for your very informative input , Rgds Mia
mia444simone 2 years ago
Stay and Play. London HEMS has a 20 year database of every single patient. so stay and play / swoop and scoop bith have their place. The overall plan is to keep on scene time to minimum. But what is the point of running a patient that has no airway, still actively bleeding, ventilatory poor etc?? these get corrected then the patient is transported to the correct hospital. neuro, thoracic, multi, burns etc.
gixertrix 2 years ago 2
3) the medical team is an experienced Doc and Paramedic. There is no leade, both work together and both carry out interventions. So if it is a thoracotomy they are both cutting into the thoracic cavity, the roles swap about and both formulate an action plan. the docs are highly respected and not on a jolly. It's a formula that works and is being taken up by essex, kent, surrey, gnas etc. There is a lot of opposition from some areas but in my experience this works very well.
gixertrix 2 years ago 5
i do believe as of recently kents air ambulance also has a doctor on every scene they attend.
quite rightly so, i agree with you this can definately make the difference of life and death.
i also believe essex are trying but due to slight lack of funding are unable to provide a doctor on every flight.
00jams00 2 years ago
2) HEMS London have always been dual pilot. Basically because landing in this city is fraught with dangers such as FOD, traffic, wires, people running up to MS as it lands! Plus as one pilot spins her up to take off the other pilot is outside (plus / minus police) to stop people approaching the disc to take pics. I've even seen a dad with his kid on his shoulders approaching to take a pic!
gixertrix 2 years ago 3
1) the job wasn't to a lady. the patient was male and made full recovery. so calls to remove the video are i'm afraid completely wrong.
gixertrix 2 years ago
UK HEMS dual pilot now?
Peterfitsnicly 2 years ago
excellant video!
garyuk17 2 years ago
i got a toy version of dat, but thnx 4 the name
charlesphili1 3 years ago
wats the name of da police car in the background?
charlesphili1 3 years ago
Vauxhall Astra or Bill`s Wheels
mia444simone 3 years ago
Well said 110csw. HEMS is the best and deserves as much publicity as possible. This video shows a helicopter landed and a crew being given a lift. Issue closed.
essexmedic 3 years ago 3
I've read all the comments and I don't know what all the fuss is about. Just shows the helicopter in a field and the crew jumping into a Police car that, I assume, takes them to the incident. Your time would be better spent fund raising for the skilled crew that helped your mother than whining about nothing.
110csw 3 years ago 2
The chopper looks like a toy!
CDPDPatrolUnit 3 years ago
Physician input in a pre-hospital environment is yet to be scientifically proven as effective. But the doctors love the excitement - especially if they can do it in a helicopter - and that's all that matters. You doctors are just so coooool
chcwtf 4 years ago
Although it may not be proven effective - in the UK (i dont know about Australian drug laws) there are certain drugs which can only be administered by a Doctor/under doctors supervision.
London HEMS is very unusual with its doctor onboard - most counties have to rely on medical teams from a nearby hospital if they requite a doctor.
scattydoo 3 years ago 2
That is BS. Tension pneumos/haemos, chest drains, central line placement in periphereal shutdown, rapid sequence induction in trauma, drug administration, ACLS, ATLS...all done by a doctor. With all due respect to paramedics (they are really lifesavers and better than most doctors in prehospital care) a doctor on board serious trauma calls is useful.
digitalis123 3 years ago
Lots of interventions mentioned - many of which are practised by paramedics in other countries. My appologies - I assumed UK medics could do stuff like administer drugs, perform RSI's and decompress tension pnuemos and until now I've never heard of central line placement in the pre-hospital field (isn't IO access considered in such cases??). I guess you guys have a stay and play philosophy.
chcwtf 3 years ago
Sorry, I thouht you were from a UK background ;) Yes, paramedics are not approved to perform RSIs with drugs..perhaps central line placement was a bit optimistic, I'm not too sure. The benefit of having doctors in HEMS is that HEMS deals with the worst trauma and having specialists in emergency medicine and anaesthetics is useful in giving support to paramedics in dealing with awkward cases. Being specialists, they reduce the RSI failure rate from 7.6% US paras to 1.3% HEMS docs, as an example.
digitalis123 3 years ago
No worries. As far as RSI in the pre-hosptital arena goes - it seems the State of Victoria in Australia has trained SPECIALISTS paramedics up to a standard that exceeds the HEMS docs failure rate - but then again the indication for RSI in the pre-hospital field may be different to you guys. Central line placement in the pre- hopspital arena - no way. Cross clamping the aorta IN THE FIELD is considered too radical - but then again better than being DEAD.
chcwtf 3 years ago
No patient images,name or indication of where they are going. Complete patient confidentiality. In the states we have the HIPPA law. This video I believe would pass that with flying colors. All they say is a lovely good morning even though they are going to a bad accident.
medic427 4 years ago 2
Thank you for your comment, Had this video contained any sensitive material i would or course seeked permission from those involved or not posted it . Rgds Simone
mia444simone 4 years ago
I think you've to remove the video, because there're yet many videos about London Air Ambulance...if someone want to look this crew on action, could watch other videos.
This vid is very nice, anyway, this job is my dream for the future..as paramedic and nursing student!
ernursedave 4 years ago
Simone, thanks for your message, I think it is only right to respect his wishes and remove the video. I and many others have HEMS videos that highlight what a great job they do. Best regards, James
cptjim 4 years ago
Thank you ,Thank you All for your input regarding this video i decided after careful consideration to leave this video avalible for the public to see its show none of the accident scene & highlights hems & crew only . Everytime these guys are called out it involes a serious injury or fatality . Of course you have the option not to watch it . Rgds Simone
mia444simone 4 years ago
too right.
shiningold 4 years ago
the lady in the accident was my mum who was seriously injured and only just come out of hospital in past couple of days i know no harm is intended in the postin but it has bought back very bad memories please consider removing it so we can put the past few weeks behind us thank you
crystalpalacenut 4 years ago
My apologies then.
medic427 4 years ago 2
these are the people that saved your mother's life.
SpassMacher2000 4 years ago 5
crystal, just be quiet, its not actually showing your injured mother if any, thire are plenty of videos on HEMS on You Tube, without the description, this could have been in Hyde Park, plus if you dont want to watch it, dont come on again.
infrared567 3 years ago 2
how about no mate u shut up
crystalpalacenut 3 years ago
u shuttit, you talk too much shit
infrared567 3 years ago
how do i
crystalpalacenut 3 years ago
'how about no mate u shut up'
'how bout go away and get a life u muppet'
a few month ago, you sent some stupid post saying, 'take this off because they were responding to my sick mother'
infrared567 3 years ago
how bout go away and get a life u muppet
crystalpalacenut 3 years ago
I think thats something for you to do, telling people to remove there videos. Cant you start a sentance other than 'how about' well fuck your how abouts, cos i wont be listening to your stupid suggestions.
infrared567 3 years ago
With all due respect The ambulane service usually does not allow Filming of accidents and/or Sustained injury
I know this because my father is in the yorkshire air ambulance
Lfcguy4077 3 years ago
where was it taken ? i think i know that place
cedarjet201 4 years ago
Hi , This video was shot at the foot of Duppas hill in Waddon Croydon near fiveways on the Purley Way . Rgds Simone
mia444simone 4 years ago
great video nice one
cedarjet201 4 years ago
Thank you , Rgds Simone
mia444simone 4 years ago
Great video, thanks for sharing! It's the first vid I have seen on here where you see the medics leaving the aircraft.
cptjim 4 years ago
Thank You for your Comment . Rgds Simone
mia444simone 4 years ago