I agree, I really don't care what people call me. Some people call me a handsome boy, some people call me a beautiful girl. Either way, I'm flattered!
I personally prefer s/he to refer to neutrality and I go ahead and pronounce it as "she" since the feminine is the one who gives birth to all of us, and how cool is that?
'They' has been used as a gender neutral singular pronoun since the 16th century. No reason to stop now.
Yes it also is used as a gender neutral plural pronoun, but it would hardly be the only word in the english language with multiple functions, nor would it be the only case of inherent grammatical ambiguity in the language. English is rife with problems of interpretation; that is half the fun.
That said, the lack of a gender neutral singular pronoun in English is rather telling.
@MouseAndShiraz Just as a couple of examples of inherent ambiguity in the English language, drawn from various internet sources:
'We saw her duck.'
'Prostitutes appeal to Pope.'
'The chicken is ready to eat.'
There is likely a functionally infinite number of ambiguous statements you can make in the English language. 'Pat said they went to the store' would be a drop in the bucket. So I say that, given 'they' has established precedence and usage history, we stick with it.
"ve" is a terrible solution; it sounds too much like "we"...
if you want to avoid gender distinctions, then i suggest giving up english and most other indo-european languages...how about speaking hungarian, finnish or turkish instead?
I've heard of using ze, zer, zim, zimself as gender neutral pronouns. It would be nice if there were more official terms that would replace gender specific pronouns in our everyday language, but that is probably a long way away. I think that when I have kids I will raise them in a gender neutral environment, change starts in teaching the younger generation.
If I'm talking to someone and I don't know what gender they are I will just ask for they're name. But if they're name could be either for a boy or a girl I guess I'm screwed lol.
I honestly thought you were a trans woman. Sorry for assuming.
In my defence, before now I've only ever seen your really recent videos wherein you have a very feminine appearance with your clothes, hair & makeup. Plus, of course, "Zinnia" is a girl's name. And all the stuff you point out in the "Gender FAQ" video (Adam's apple, voice, lack of breasts) could just have meant that you'd started transitioning post-puberty.
If I don't know a person's gender, I tend to restructure my whole sentence so that gender-identification is unnecessary.
"Pat said they're going to the store" is trying to communicate that 1> Pat is going to the store, and 2> Pat told me so. "Pat informed me of intentions to go to the store." sounds a bit mechanic, but effectively avoids all pronouns.
If I really evaluate what I'm trying to say, maybe "Pat's going to the store -- want anything?" works, so awareness of our own intent is key.
@tdfisk Oh get off the fucking cross Mr. Persecution Complex. You are not living under a dictatorship, Being called an asshole is not the same as being arrested or killed for saying something. Christ!
@DevilWomanCake You regard yourself as my nightmare? How adorable. I see you're getting into the Halloween spirit. If you were living here I'd use you for one of my Halloween decorations, the kids would get a real kick out such a spooky guy.
Do you ever listen to yourself, I don't think so. You are trying to tell people how to think and feel and it's all contradictory. People don't give that much thought into a casual encounter that may last only a few seconds. All of your videos are about "pay attention to me", which is a common trait with flamboyant homosexuals. You put so much effort into drawing attention to yourself and expect people to simply accept you. If people did accept you, I think you'd hate it.
Do you ever listen to yourself, I don't think so. You are trying to tell people how to think and feel and it's all contradictory. People don't give that much thought into a casual encounter that may last only a few seconds. All of your videos are about "pay attention to me", which is a common trait with flamboyant homosexuals. You put so much effort into drawing attention to yourself and expect people to simply accept you. If people did accept you, I think you'd hate it.
@tdfisk I love it when smug nobodies sign their name after a youtube comment, as if this somehow makes their bigotry sound classy. Do you ever listen to yourself?
@tdfisk actually, I'm not really interested in hockey. See how stupid you sound when you stereotype? Keep signing your name, it doesn't make you any more memorable. You're just another bigot over the internet with nothing better to do than to write stupid, pointless troll comments.
@DevilWomanCake Learn the difference between poking fun at someone & stereotyping. I have a lot of Canadian friends & have served with the Canadian military. We've been poking fun at each other for most of my adult life. Accusing people of being trolls and bigot happens millions of times a day on the Internet. It's interesting that my signing my name bothers you so much. That's only happened a half dozen times. It's my way of saying I don't hide behind a silly username. Lighten up Eskimo.
@tdfisk Keep telling yourself that hon. You're still a useless nobody. Here's a tip: If you hate LGBTs so much, why don't you stop watching LGBT themed videos hmm? and don't even try pretending that your alright with us, okay? "I don't mind you so long as you stop gender-bending" does not count as tolerance.
@DevilWomanCake Hate LGBTs so much? You've gone bonkers, I've never said anything remote like that. I happen to be one of them. You are way too irrational and delusion to even try to communicate with.
So you're "one of us" are you now, hon? So why did you feel the need to leave a negative comment to a video - that is telling people not to be assholes to someone whos gender is not plainly obvious? I find this to be quite a polite, informative video, but apperantly you don't think so. So, what, should we just not ever say "you know, if situation X ever arises, It would probably be a good idea to handle it like this..."?
@DevilWomanCake You assumed I was straight and I corrected you, but don't categorize me as being "one of us". Falling in love with someone of the same gender isn't a group, it's an extremely private matter. Just because a person happens to be homosexual doesn't mean he has to support every gay point of view. I don't even see Zinnia as gay, she's just a person I disagree with in may ways. The whole idea is we are human beings first. Being homosexual is just a small party of who we are.
@tdfisk I don't doubt that you're gay, really, I don't care what you are. A bigot is still a bigot, but aside from that, you didn't answer any of the more important, relevant questions in my last comment. Nice way to dodge the issue, coward.
@DevilWomanCake I'm not dodging your questions. You act like an ass and show no interest in having a rational discussion. What I am is not so simple to package as "gay" and I don't care what you care about. You're just a snot-nosed kid who has a lot of growing up to do. Who knows, you may even learn to become a decent human being one day.
@tdfisk Honey, just what exactly are you trying to prove? I'm only interested in having a "rational" discussion with rational people, which you are clearly not. Your ignorant insults mean nothing to me, like I'm going to cry myself to sleep at night because some bigot thinks I'm not a decent human being. Well, I've got friends and family who would disagree with you there, and their opinion matters a hell of a lot more to me than yours ever will, sugar.
@DevilWomanCake Have you considered a career in theater? You could play Scarlett in Gone With The Wind or you could play the wind. In all seriousness, it's good to hear that your family and friends love and care that much about you, there isn't enough of it.
@tdfisk not sure what you're trying to imply with the theater comment, that I'm dramatic or something? The posts you've made aren't all that subtle either.
I'm glad you think it's good I have friends and family, thank you.
@DevilWomanCake You approached me with your nasty comments, sometimes I tolerate it sometimes I don't. I'll most likely shrug off a straight, but when a young gay gives me crap I tend to take exception. You can be open today because of people like me in my generation who really put themselves at risk to fight conditions you couldn't imagine. When I was your age I seen a lot beautiful people die from being beaten stabbed, shot and worse. So yeah, sometimes I'm in no mood to be subtle.
You made the first nasty comment, sorry. You were being blatantly rude, being older does not excuse that. You are subject to criticism like everyone else, being born in a certain era doesn't make you more special. Also, you don't know me, so don't even try to assume I'm able to be "open" all the time, especially because of you. If you think predjudice is a thing of the past you are very mistaken. (cont..)
@tdfisk I'll ask the same questions again: why did you feel the need to leave a negative comment to a video - that is telling people not to be assholes to someone who’s gender is not plainly obvious? I find this to be quite a polite, informative video, but apparently you don't think so. So, what, should we just not ever say "you know, if situation X ever arises, It would probably be a good idea to handle it like this..."?
will you address these or just dismiss me because of my age again?
@DevilWomanCake You addressed me before I addressed you. If you think I made a nasty comment to someone else it had nothing to do with you. Interesting how you say I'm blatantly rude when every one of Zinnias videos are far worse than rude. I can get rude if I see people stereotyping and dehumanizing others. I'm not special because I was born in certain era, I (and many like me) are damn special for taking on hate face to face. I never claimed to know you. Continued
@tdfisk Well, I don't claim to know Zinnia very well, but I perfectly understand why she would be "rude" to people who throw a giant piss over trivial things like what someone wears, or what they call themselves. I take on hate face to face too, I have to brace myself for it everytime I venture outside, because not everyone is a friendly eskimo in Canada.
@DevilWomanCake I know it can get real tough in Canada. I ignore people in public because the world's full of creeps. As long as they don't approach me they can dance a jig as far as I care. I live in Denver, Co where there are a lot of homosexuals and there's still the little shits looking for trouble. My sons are usually with me, so they tend to steer away. I can fight well, but with my rheumatoid I'll feel pain for a long time even if they don't touch me. Most of the time it's okay.
@DevilWomanCake Even though we argued with a bit of heat, we kept talking. When people talk things out they can resolve differences and misunderstanding. I think we've reached a point of mutual respect and that is well worth the unpleasantness. Regardless of our age, we can always learn from each other. We have something in common that is a unique social problem and we have to work together to endure and resolve them. I think Zinnia is a real sweetheart, she just has a lot to learn.
@DevilWomanCake ... I've had as many as 6 big guys with me. My sons and friends are extremely protective. Heck, we can kiss in the middle of the mall and they just walk on by. You have to out-think the thugs, get creative and be defiant. Sometimes you have to take risks and fight for your rights. Don't expect people to be reasoned with.
@DevilWomanCake I wasn't referring to your personal life. I was referring to the level of freedom you have today. Sure, there's prejudice, even gay bashing, but it's a small fraction of what it was like just 30 years ago. Why ask me a question that was answered in the message you object to? My criticism was directed to Zinnia and so it's between her and I. So let's not act like the knight in shinning armor. Zinnia can taker care of herself. I AM bisexual, it's still homosexuality.
@tdfisk I wasn't so much "defending" Zinnia as I was defending gender variant people, which includes myself. We often get accused of "drawing attention to ourselves" for engaging in behaviours that half of the cis-gendered population does on a regular basis, and are rarely ever criticized for. It is sometimes used as an excuse for murder. So yeah, it's a big deal. Really, anyone who makes a video on this site is saying "hey look at me" anyways, so what's the problem?
@DevilWomanCake That just happens to be the sad reality. Life isn't fair. The only thing that can be done about it is to figure ways around it. At least that gives a sense of freedom. What I've done is go to unpopulated areas or at night. The winter is especially good because you can get nice and cozy and no one notices. If necessary, go with a couple of burly friends, you'd be surprise at the deterrent. If I go with a special someone during Christmas shopping,.. Continued
hey, don't tell me not to be an asshole, when in fact i am an asshole.. LOL! just kidding. This is very informative, thank you. having been called "miss" a few times until i turned around has never bothered me, but the look of shock on some faces when i turn around i have found to be priceless.
I have been mistaken for a male which doese not bother me since I masculine characteristic and perfer masculine and gender nuterial clothing and I am a lesbian. What bothers me are people who know I am a female and insist on refering to me as he I do not refer to myself as he and do not beleive myself to be a he.
Personally, I like they (though as you pointed out, "and they got so angry they threw their knitting right across the room!" does sound like a really angry knitting circle). Good little 101, this.
Personally, I like they (though as you pointed out, "and they got so angry they threw their knitting right across the room!" does sound like a really angry knitting circle). Good little 101, this.
I've just been calling you a girl because you dress like one and you have (or at least pretend to have) a girl's name. You clearly want to be or want to be considered as a female so I will address you as such. I don't think I'll ever be your doctor or your lover or in any other possible situation where I will see you naked so as far as I'm concerned, you are exactly who you say you are. The main thing that pisses me off is when you're talking about something extremely emotional and someone asks.
"Ze" pronounced like "Zee" (rhymes with he and she) is often used as a gender neutral subject, and "hir" pronounced like "here" being the possessive and object form. "hirself" is the reflexive form. It's a term that is popular in the genderqueer community, and one that I hope catches on and makes its way into mainstream English. I agree that we really need a gender neutral pronoun.
T_T y u being an asshole. You obviously know that dressing up the way you do in this videos can be a bit confusing, and it will inevitably lead to such resaults. This makes you a bad person. Provocing people. Either that or you're naive and think this wont happen. Your obviously a smart person. So which one is it? Asshole or Naive? Makes no difference to me, im just curious. I guess you could say im a bit BI-curious *giggle*. ofc wanting to dress the way you do is also fine.
In romantic languages its even worse since there is they from my studies of French lack any gender neutral concept and also nouns are either refer to as masculine or feminine.
Gender and sex are not the same thing actually. Sex (not the act) is biological while gender is socialized into us based on sex and how society believes people of a particular sex should look and behave etc etc.
I know you don't care whether you get referred to with male or female pronouns, but some trans people prefer one or the other (and some actually prefer "it.") Where I find it difficult is asking what pronouns they prefer I use for them without coming off like a transphobe. But maybe that's more of a problem with my self-confidence than my vocabulary or tact. I could be so afraid of offending them that I pretty much ensured that I would.
Just a quick question what is a "GENDER" we went to the store the other day and we asked a store assistent for some gender and they said we were crazy and asked us to leave so we need to find a place to get a gender to do some tests on.
Idealy, I wouldn't care how I'm refered to as well. Only execption and this happens alot at work, when I'm around two diffrent groups of people. those who know, and those who I suspect don't know. I really have no way of knowing for sure if they know without letting them know, You know what I mean? First impressions seem to be unbreakable and tring to let those who know in a descrete way that they have addressed me wrong within earshot of those who don't know, probibly, often backfires.
ahhh i had a transgender classmate, and id constantly hear others call her "it" or "the it" when she wasn't around. i'm a very sweet & laid back person, but whenever this happened, i was quick to make sure that person knew how idiotic and rude they sounded.
personally I have always gone with the gender pronoun that is implied by the clothes in those cases where there is ambiguity.i've always thought 'it' was insulting and if i get the wrong gender then i will be corrected.
i really don't care what gender someone is unless i want to sleep with them and every other consideration it is pretty much meaningless
Hey ZJ, if I may ask, what were you doing with your hair at the time in which you made this video? Mine is about this length, and judging from your earliest videos, we have very similar hair. I straighten it, but it doesn't look as soft and lovely as yours. Please help! ^^
I think I`m a COCK! I wonder if I can have the "State" `recognise` this as a `new` minority & give me the right to describe myself as a cock. I want "MY THING" to be respected. Anyone who does not `respect` my `new` description will be subjected to `legal proceedings!!!!!! BOO Haaaaaaa......
right on. you, my friend, are officially metal. nice breakdown. most people honestly have no idea how to refer to people, and with my gender identity in flux right now, i dont even know how to refer to myself :P but yeah, definetly a great video.
Actually that is how it sounded to me originally, but I use 'they' more often than most in that way, and the more I use it the more normal it sounds (for me and the people around me).
I really think that singular 'they' is the best option, people often use it automatically anyway, when the gender is not known, so although it sounds a little off sometimes, it's a better place to start than anything else.
I mean, if I refer to someone as "they" it will be understood even if the listener might have a slight reaction of "why did he not say "he" or "she" ? But if I said "ze" or "ve" etc then I would get looked at very weirdly by all but the 0.5% of people who are interested in gender
There are some examples of completely made up nouns coming to be widely used, but not something as fundamental as made-up pronouns. You can't just make people use terms, language has to evolve natually.
I quite like the singular "they". It is already understood and widely used for things like "someone came by today looking for you and they left you letter" "if someone wants to go to France they should learn some French" etc where the gender is not known, and extending it to things like your example - Pat said they wanted to..... is just a small step. It is much more likely to be understood and used than some completely invented idea like sie or ve etc.
I use xe/xem/xyr(self) for myself and other people I know who prefer to remain neutral on the gender question. In a working context, or if I'm referring to a hypothetical person and don't want to assume gender, I sometimes use 'co', which is kind of a leftover hippy term I picked up on a commune. It's grammatically simple, which is a plus.
On the subject of 'it': I get the impression that to some extent it is the way we construct gender in English that makes this seem such an inappropriate word to refer to a person. My friend's linguistic prof (who I believe is Turkish) was very put out when her suggestion to make 'it' the official gender neutral pronoun in English was rejected.
Hey, I'm two years late but I'm an old fart and just catching up on all these Youtube conversations, but this was very well said. And the fact that you're a Greg Egan fan (I thought I was the only one) definitely earns you some friend points from me!
@Vriezenaar If you're going to insult someone, at least check your spelling of the word "You're" as in "you are" rather than telling someone that "A bundle of sticks belongs to them" with a 2nd person possessive pronoun.
I don't mind if people ask whether I'm male or female. Usually they're polite about it, even apologetic, like they feel like they should know and are sad or embarrassed they don't. I'm even fine with the usual follow-up question: "Are you gay?" Um, yes, I am, not that it's relevant to anything, but I understand people like being able to file others in neat little boxes. As long as you're not being mean or rude about it, ask all the questions you need.
Personally, I don't mind being called an 'it', but that's mostly because in my native language it's common to call everything and everyone 'it' despite all of our personal pronouns being gender-neutral. In any case, when anyone asks which pronouns they should use in English, I tell them to use whatever pronouns they please. I'm neutrois and as such I fall outside the gender binary: every "proper" pronoun is just about as inaccurate as the other. So, y'know, whatever floats your boat pal.
@moopism and aren't you lucky to have that much time. Scrolling back to comments posted 6 months ago and replying to them. i bet wallmart doesn't employ drop outs eh?
@Deathbringer135 funny thing about the ol' internet- the idiocy you post stays there for all generations to come to view as a warning against typing before you think.
The fact that six months has passed, and someone new has stumbled on this cretinous bilge of yours, means what? Nothing.
I'll bet Walmart employs people who don't capitalize or spell properly either.
@moopism You are a cretin of the highest caliber. You are the textbook definition of a pretentious douchebag.
Now i don't know if your father didn't hug you enough when you were a kid or if your uncle molested you or some other thing that seemed to have left a mark on you, but obviously you have a lot of anger built up inside you. And by looking at your previous comments, you seem to like taking out your 'anger' on a 15 year olds's opinion.
Look, if you are that mature as you say you are. How about instead of replying to a comment that you think isn't funny from half a year ago with a half arsed jab, you go and prove that you are really that mature by NOT replying to the comment.
Personally I don't care what you think, but your replies are implicating that you obviously think that you are superior than me.
So get off your high horse and actually act the way you are implying in the comments.
@moopism Get over it and grow up. Throwing a tantrum just makes you look insecure.Secondly there was absolutely no advice in any of your comments what so ever. So if you think insults are going to make somebody grow up, i think you should reconsider retaking that parenting course again. * 4th sentence If*
@moopism The reason I'm so faking annoyed at you ; its because i can't stand busybodies like you. So what if its a crap attempt at humour? it's not a reason to go lashing out at the person. i mean "did they held you back at school?" what the fuck is that for? whatever mate, im done with your sardonic remarks. If theres gonna be another insult in your reply, im blocking you. i dont care how much you're gonna scoff , i don't give a flying shit anymore. ok? are we clear?
@moopism Thats it. Fuck you. Fuck your parent who didn't have time to teach you manners. You are a cunt filled with buncombe. If America was filled with arseholes like you, I'm so flipping glad you ditched us in the battle for "independence". You are the stereotypical definition American; Ignorant, a Jackass, somebody who doesn't know when to shut up. Most of these comments were just completely uncalled for. You are a complete disgrace to your flag. You a pathetic excuse for a sentient being.
He / She is just fucking with you all! Look at her/his Myspace it's say feminine, but in the video he/she says it's a boy! It's all very confusing!LOL
In cases like yours, where I can tell there is genderqueering going on, I generally would ask "How do you identify?"
I think it's respectful, not making assumptions one way or another, and it's subtle enough that if I was mistaken, someone not "family" wouldn't necessarily know what I was talking about.
Ive always known "he" and "him" to not only refer to male, but anyone. So "he" is both masculine and neuter. Ive been trying to develop an efficient language for a long time now because I just keep changing it. I think ill add a neutral gendered word. It could be very useful.
I prefer the "n" sound myself, as it connects to Neuter. I've tried to promoted Ne/Nar/Narin/Narself. On the plus side there a great Monty Python ref there involving objection to the word "it"
well what do you prefer , feminine or masculine pronouns? anyway i was at that stage too until i was 16, and you are right , there is no polite way to ask your gender. i was at the pool one time and this girl said in a very grossed out voice ,"are you a girl or a boy?" and i didnt even answer cuz she was rude about it. i know it sux!! and when i was a tour guide, a man complimented me and said," you are a very nice guy, you know that?" and i was like........" yyyyyyyeeeeaaa" =(( Lol
Okay, less trolling now. What about the problem of hurting feelings? Most women feel upset if they are mistaken for men (because their desired femininity is mocked), and most men feel upset if they are mistaken for women (because their desired masculinity is mocked). So is it really a good idea to make a GUESS when you talk to a gender-ambiguous person?
In your case, you probably want to incite thought and discussion with your appearance. But some people are gender-ambiguous by accident.
I feel like screaming: "JUST ANSWER ZE QVESTION!!" You have some very eloquent and sensible advice about the entire subject, but you won't actually state your gender in any of the videos I have seen. Out of sheer nagging curiosity, I just want to know! It would clarify things so much better than a whole video about pronoun etiquette. You're plain-speaking and perceptive, and you *know* people want to know. So you're being pompous. Sorry dude. Or dudette.
The English language has many more failings than a lack of gender-neutral pronouns. In addition to a lack of consistency due to the huge amount of loanwords we use, we have no differentiation between singular and plural in the 2nd person, pronounciation is difficult and again awkward, and even native speakers like myself can't help but wish English would be modified slightly for sake of ease.
I agree, I really don't care what people call me. Some people call me a handsome boy, some people call me a beautiful girl. Either way, I'm flattered!
hearttopmodel05 3 days ago in playlist More videos from ZJemptv
I personally prefer s/he to refer to neutrality and I go ahead and pronounce it as "she" since the feminine is the one who gives birth to all of us, and how cool is that?
dagda825 2 weeks ago
'They' has been used as a gender neutral singular pronoun since the 16th century. No reason to stop now.
Yes it also is used as a gender neutral plural pronoun, but it would hardly be the only word in the english language with multiple functions, nor would it be the only case of inherent grammatical ambiguity in the language. English is rife with problems of interpretation; that is half the fun.
That said, the lack of a gender neutral singular pronoun in English is rather telling.
MouseAndShiraz 2 weeks ago
@MouseAndShiraz Just as a couple of examples of inherent ambiguity in the English language, drawn from various internet sources:
'We saw her duck.'
'Prostitutes appeal to Pope.'
'The chicken is ready to eat.'
There is likely a functionally infinite number of ambiguous statements you can make in the English language. 'Pat said they went to the store' would be a drop in the bucket. So I say that, given 'they' has established precedence and usage history, we stick with it.
MouseAndShiraz 2 weeks ago
There are 4-5 points in the face of a person which tells directly of what gender the person is.
somewhere in the middle of the chin the cheekbone and the forehead just above the eyebrows.
It's not that hard.
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Nit996 3 weeks ago
"ve" is a terrible solution; it sounds too much like "we"...
if you want to avoid gender distinctions, then i suggest giving up english and most other indo-european languages...how about speaking hungarian, finnish or turkish instead?
grafplaten 3 weeks ago in playlist Queer issues
Nice glasses!
absentmindedprof 1 month ago
You are clearly a male that dress's as a female, thus, you are a female!
Bigcricket467 1 month ago
what is it talking about
xboxindahouse 1 month ago
@xboxindahouse<---- Why is it's attempts at deprecation so obnoxiously contrived?
Chayraz2 3 weeks ago
My friend who happens to be gender queer uses Ze, Zer, and Zimself.
lovelycreeep 1 month ago
I've heard of using ze, zer, zim, zimself as gender neutral pronouns. It would be nice if there were more official terms that would replace gender specific pronouns in our everyday language, but that is probably a long way away. I think that when I have kids I will raise them in a gender neutral environment, change starts in teaching the younger generation.
Fishtastic0303 1 month ago in playlist Queer issues 3
If I'm talking to someone and I don't know what gender they are I will just ask for they're name. But if they're name could be either for a boy or a girl I guess I'm screwed lol.
misswhitegrape0225 2 months ago
Thank you I finally found a word to come across gender neutral or queer, ver
AwesomenessByron 2 months ago
Why are 'do' and 'don't' in the possessive form? Am I missing something?
Minecraft4life1000 2 months ago
I honestly thought you were a trans woman. Sorry for assuming.
In my defence, before now I've only ever seen your really recent videos wherein you have a very feminine appearance with your clothes, hair & makeup. Plus, of course, "Zinnia" is a girl's name. And all the stuff you point out in the "Gender FAQ" video (Adam's apple, voice, lack of breasts) could just have meant that you'd started transitioning post-puberty.
ColeMercury 3 months ago
If I don't know a person's gender, I tend to restructure my whole sentence so that gender-identification is unnecessary.
"Pat said they're going to the store" is trying to communicate that 1> Pat is going to the store, and 2> Pat told me so. "Pat informed me of intentions to go to the store." sounds a bit mechanic, but effectively avoids all pronouns.
If I really evaluate what I'm trying to say, maybe "Pat's going to the store -- want anything?" works, so awareness of our own intent is key.
moiraemagdalene 3 months ago
Reddit FTW
fsuarez20051 4 months ago
ya, the only it is frieza
SuperZslayer 4 months ago
2:37 - 2:45 I agree with what you said there but.. this may sound weird.. you sounded so cute when you said that! haha *blush*
yunarikku2723 4 months ago
Political correctness simplified: Don't be an asshole.
deliriumbubbles 4 months ago
@deliriumbubbles Really? With political correctness, anyone who doesn't think, feel and live according to dictates is an asshole.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk Oh get off the fucking cross Mr. Persecution Complex. You are not living under a dictatorship, Being called an asshole is not the same as being arrested or killed for saying something. Christ!
signed
Your Nightmare
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake You regard yourself as my nightmare? How adorable. I see you're getting into the Halloween spirit. If you were living here I'd use you for one of my Halloween decorations, the kids would get a real kick out such a spooky guy.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk Glad to see you find me asthetically pleasing :eye roll:
Your Nightmare
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
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Do you ever listen to yourself, I don't think so. You are trying to tell people how to think and feel and it's all contradictory. People don't give that much thought into a casual encounter that may last only a few seconds. All of your videos are about "pay attention to me", which is a common trait with flamboyant homosexuals. You put so much effort into drawing attention to yourself and expect people to simply accept you. If people did accept you, I think you'd hate it.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
Do you ever listen to yourself, I don't think so. You are trying to tell people how to think and feel and it's all contradictory. People don't give that much thought into a casual encounter that may last only a few seconds. All of your videos are about "pay attention to me", which is a common trait with flamboyant homosexuals. You put so much effort into drawing attention to yourself and expect people to simply accept you. If people did accept you, I think you'd hate it.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk I love it when smug nobodies sign their name after a youtube comment, as if this somehow makes their bigotry sound classy. Do you ever listen to yourself?
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake I get the biggest kick out of Canadians.Go have some beer and watch a hockey game, you'll feel better.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk actually, I'm not really interested in hockey. See how stupid you sound when you stereotype? Keep signing your name, it doesn't make you any more memorable. You're just another bigot over the internet with nothing better to do than to write stupid, pointless troll comments.
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake Learn the difference between poking fun at someone & stereotyping. I have a lot of Canadian friends & have served with the Canadian military. We've been poking fun at each other for most of my adult life. Accusing people of being trolls and bigot happens millions of times a day on the Internet. It's interesting that my signing my name bothers you so much. That's only happened a half dozen times. It's my way of saying I don't hide behind a silly username. Lighten up Eskimo.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk Keep telling yourself that hon. You're still a useless nobody. Here's a tip: If you hate LGBTs so much, why don't you stop watching LGBT themed videos hmm? and don't even try pretending that your alright with us, okay? "I don't mind you so long as you stop gender-bending" does not count as tolerance.
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake Hate LGBTs so much? You've gone bonkers, I've never said anything remote like that. I happen to be one of them. You are way too irrational and delusion to even try to communicate with.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk I'm too delusion to deal with? Lol.
So you're "one of us" are you now, hon? So why did you feel the need to leave a negative comment to a video - that is telling people not to be assholes to someone whos gender is not plainly obvious? I find this to be quite a polite, informative video, but apperantly you don't think so. So, what, should we just not ever say "you know, if situation X ever arises, It would probably be a good idea to handle it like this..."?
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake You assumed I was straight and I corrected you, but don't categorize me as being "one of us". Falling in love with someone of the same gender isn't a group, it's an extremely private matter. Just because a person happens to be homosexual doesn't mean he has to support every gay point of view. I don't even see Zinnia as gay, she's just a person I disagree with in may ways. The whole idea is we are human beings first. Being homosexual is just a small party of who we are.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk I don't doubt that you're gay, really, I don't care what you are. A bigot is still a bigot, but aside from that, you didn't answer any of the more important, relevant questions in my last comment. Nice way to dodge the issue, coward.
Your Nightmare
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake I'm not dodging your questions. You act like an ass and show no interest in having a rational discussion. What I am is not so simple to package as "gay" and I don't care what you care about. You're just a snot-nosed kid who has a lot of growing up to do. Who knows, you may even learn to become a decent human being one day.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
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DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@tdfisk Honey, just what exactly are you trying to prove? I'm only interested in having a "rational" discussion with rational people, which you are clearly not. Your ignorant insults mean nothing to me, like I'm going to cry myself to sleep at night because some bigot thinks I'm not a decent human being. Well, I've got friends and family who would disagree with you there, and their opinion matters a hell of a lot more to me than yours ever will, sugar.
Your Nightmare
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake Have you considered a career in theater? You could play Scarlett in Gone With The Wind or you could play the wind. In all seriousness, it's good to hear that your family and friends love and care that much about you, there isn't enough of it.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk not sure what you're trying to imply with the theater comment, that I'm dramatic or something? The posts you've made aren't all that subtle either.
I'm glad you think it's good I have friends and family, thank you.
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake You approached me with your nasty comments, sometimes I tolerate it sometimes I don't. I'll most likely shrug off a straight, but when a young gay gives me crap I tend to take exception. You can be open today because of people like me in my generation who really put themselves at risk to fight conditions you couldn't imagine. When I was your age I seen a lot beautiful people die from being beaten stabbed, shot and worse. So yeah, sometimes I'm in no mood to be subtle.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk assuming your serious and not a troll...
You made the first nasty comment, sorry. You were being blatantly rude, being older does not excuse that. You are subject to criticism like everyone else, being born in a certain era doesn't make you more special. Also, you don't know me, so don't even try to assume I'm able to be "open" all the time, especially because of you. If you think predjudice is a thing of the past you are very mistaken. (cont..)
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@tdfisk I'll ask the same questions again: why did you feel the need to leave a negative comment to a video - that is telling people not to be assholes to someone who’s gender is not plainly obvious? I find this to be quite a polite, informative video, but apparently you don't think so. So, what, should we just not ever say "you know, if situation X ever arises, It would probably be a good idea to handle it like this..."?
will you address these or just dismiss me because of my age again?
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@tdfisk and btw "when a young gay gives me crap I tend to take exception" BZZZT wrong answer. I'm most likely bisexual.
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake You addressed me before I addressed you. If you think I made a nasty comment to someone else it had nothing to do with you. Interesting how you say I'm blatantly rude when every one of Zinnias videos are far worse than rude. I can get rude if I see people stereotyping and dehumanizing others. I'm not special because I was born in certain era, I (and many like me) are damn special for taking on hate face to face. I never claimed to know you. Continued
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk Well, I don't claim to know Zinnia very well, but I perfectly understand why she would be "rude" to people who throw a giant piss over trivial things like what someone wears, or what they call themselves. I take on hate face to face too, I have to brace myself for it everytime I venture outside, because not everyone is a friendly eskimo in Canada.
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake I know it can get real tough in Canada. I ignore people in public because the world's full of creeps. As long as they don't approach me they can dance a jig as far as I care. I live in Denver, Co where there are a lot of homosexuals and there's still the little shits looking for trouble. My sons are usually with me, so they tend to steer away. I can fight well, but with my rheumatoid I'll feel pain for a long time even if they don't touch me. Most of the time it's okay.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk Well, it's good to know that you have sons that keep you safe. I hope things turn out okay, despite our disagreement.
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake Even though we argued with a bit of heat, we kept talking. When people talk things out they can resolve differences and misunderstanding. I think we've reached a point of mutual respect and that is well worth the unpleasantness. Regardless of our age, we can always learn from each other. We have something in common that is a unique social problem and we have to work together to endure and resolve them. I think Zinnia is a real sweetheart, she just has a lot to learn.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk I was a bit harsh with some of my words. At least we're on better terms now.
DevilWomanCake 3 months ago
@DevilWomanCake ... I've had as many as 6 big guys with me. My sons and friends are extremely protective. Heck, we can kiss in the middle of the mall and they just walk on by. You have to out-think the thugs, get creative and be defiant. Sometimes you have to take risks and fight for your rights. Don't expect people to be reasoned with.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake I wasn't referring to your personal life. I was referring to the level of freedom you have today. Sure, there's prejudice, even gay bashing, but it's a small fraction of what it was like just 30 years ago. Why ask me a question that was answered in the message you object to? My criticism was directed to Zinnia and so it's between her and I. So let's not act like the knight in shinning armor. Zinnia can taker care of herself. I AM bisexual, it's still homosexuality.
Thomas
tdfisk 4 months ago
@tdfisk I wasn't so much "defending" Zinnia as I was defending gender variant people, which includes myself. We often get accused of "drawing attention to ourselves" for engaging in behaviours that half of the cis-gendered population does on a regular basis, and are rarely ever criticized for. It is sometimes used as an excuse for murder. So yeah, it's a big deal. Really, anyone who makes a video on this site is saying "hey look at me" anyways, so what's the problem?
DevilWomanCake 4 months ago
@DevilWomanCake That just happens to be the sad reality. Life isn't fair. The only thing that can be done about it is to figure ways around it. At least that gives a sense of freedom. What I've done is go to unpopulated areas or at night. The winter is especially good because you can get nice and cozy and no one notices. If necessary, go with a couple of burly friends, you'd be surprise at the deterrent. If I go with a special someone during Christmas shopping,.. Continued
tdfisk 4 months ago
hey, don't tell me not to be an asshole, when in fact i am an asshole.. LOL! just kidding. This is very informative, thank you. having been called "miss" a few times until i turned around has never bothered me, but the look of shock on some faces when i turn around i have found to be priceless.
AltairZielite 4 months ago
I want a neutral pronoun for pople!
whitemousee 4 months ago
I have been mistaken for a male which doese not bother me since I masculine characteristic and perfer masculine and gender nuterial clothing and I am a lesbian. What bothers me are people who know I am a female and insist on refering to me as he I do not refer to myself as he and do not beleive myself to be a he.
cynt123able 4 months ago
Shit I was watching big bang you sound like sheldon
lokalllize 4 months ago
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Personally, I like they (though as you pointed out, "and they got so angry they threw their knitting right across the room!" does sound like a really angry knitting circle). Good little 101, this.
Crabjesus 4 months ago
Personally, I like they (though as you pointed out, "and they got so angry they threw their knitting right across the room!" does sound like a really angry knitting circle). Good little 101, this.
Crabjesus 4 months ago
I've just been calling you a girl because you dress like one and you have (or at least pretend to have) a girl's name. You clearly want to be or want to be considered as a female so I will address you as such. I don't think I'll ever be your doctor or your lover or in any other possible situation where I will see you naked so as far as I'm concerned, you are exactly who you say you are. The main thing that pisses me off is when you're talking about something extremely emotional and someone asks.
DepressedAnnnie 5 months ago
Your videos are great. I can learn so much from them.
MegaAngryChicken 5 months ago
I love you for this. O_O so much.
KairiSoraRiku35 5 months ago
"Ze" pronounced like "Zee" (rhymes with he and she) is often used as a gender neutral subject, and "hir" pronounced like "here" being the possessive and object form. "hirself" is the reflexive form. It's a term that is popular in the genderqueer community, and one that I hope catches on and makes its way into mainstream English. I agree that we really need a gender neutral pronoun.
LucidDan 5 months ago
@LucidDan I use ze/hir for myself. It's not perfect, but it works till the English language gets something better.
AndreaTheNerd 4 months ago
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LucidDan 5 months ago
'One' works for many purposes:
"Pat said one does not like hot milk."
"A student should pick up one's pencil."
'Ve' seems a bit forced. And also a bit "explative-ish." But your comments overall are very thoughtful and quite appreciated.
zero021one 5 months ago
Haha I laughed my ass, you're a freak
0Dragunov 5 months ago
T_T y u being an asshole. You obviously know that dressing up the way you do in this videos can be a bit confusing, and it will inevitably lead to such resaults. This makes you a bad person. Provocing people. Either that or you're naive and think this wont happen. Your obviously a smart person. So which one is it? Asshole or Naive? Makes no difference to me, im just curious. I guess you could say im a bit BI-curious *giggle*. ofc wanting to dress the way you do is also fine.
AgnosticCube 6 months ago
You're just an androgynous guy and very beautiful.
lenaqtpie 6 months ago 20
In romantic languages its even worse since there is they from my studies of French lack any gender neutral concept and also nouns are either refer to as masculine or feminine.
Yue65 6 months ago
wait you talking to fast
hhijueputa 7 months ago
Gender and sex are not the same thing actually. Sex (not the act) is biological while gender is socialized into us based on sex and how society believes people of a particular sex should look and behave etc etc.
WazcallyWabbit 7 months ago
Yu R tha mos goldarned lovable filly on the whole U toob Rosie. an ye got brains too.
azzy314159 7 months ago
"it" is a homicidal alien clown,zinnia is not a homicidal alien clown
r0b0tj0n3s 8 months ago 17
i have a question is it considered androugany? love your videos by the way i think your awsome
alvarezist 8 months ago
I know you don't care whether you get referred to with male or female pronouns, but some trans people prefer one or the other (and some actually prefer "it.") Where I find it difficult is asking what pronouns they prefer I use for them without coming off like a transphobe. But maybe that's more of a problem with my self-confidence than my vocabulary or tact. I could be so afraid of offending them that I pretty much ensured that I would.
TheCeejReturns 8 months ago
Just a quick question what is a "GENDER" we went to the store the other day and we asked a store assistent for some gender and they said we were crazy and asked us to leave so we need to find a place to get a gender to do some tests on.
heterogeneoushuman 8 months ago
Zj, I fuccking LOve you!!! :D
Fuck those haterz!!
yamiriei 8 months ago
Zinnia? Oh yeah, she's a great guy!
Undercoverfire 9 months ago
Idealy, I wouldn't care how I'm refered to as well. Only execption and this happens alot at work, when I'm around two diffrent groups of people. those who know, and those who I suspect don't know. I really have no way of knowing for sure if they know without letting them know, You know what I mean? First impressions seem to be unbreakable and tring to let those who know in a descrete way that they have addressed me wrong within earshot of those who don't know, probibly, often backfires.
j69reap 9 months ago
people use it all the time for non-objects actually
froggymicwop 9 months ago
LOL at some of you stupid comments... :)
gaylolful 9 months ago
ahhh i had a transgender classmate, and id constantly hear others call her "it" or "the it" when she wasn't around. i'm a very sweet & laid back person, but whenever this happened, i was quick to make sure that person knew how idiotic and rude they sounded.
michelleslameaccount 9 months ago
@michelleslameaccount Thanks for being cool :)
Onijak 9 months ago
nicely articulated
personally I have always gone with the gender pronoun that is implied by the clothes in those cases where there is ambiguity.i've always thought 'it' was insulting and if i get the wrong gender then i will be corrected.
i really don't care what gender someone is unless i want to sleep with them and every other consideration it is pretty much meaningless
workaholicandy 9 months ago
greg egan is great
dstrbo13 9 months ago
Hey ZJ, if I may ask, what were you doing with your hair at the time in which you made this video? Mine is about this length, and judging from your earliest videos, we have very similar hair. I straighten it, but it doesn't look as soft and lovely as yours. Please help! ^^
FriendlyShadow1 9 months ago
I think I`m a COCK! I wonder if I can have the "State" `recognise` this as a `new` minority & give me the right to describe myself as a cock. I want "MY THING" to be respected. Anyone who does not `respect` my `new` description will be subjected to `legal proceedings!!!!!! BOO Haaaaaaa......
terrygand 9 months ago
Honestly, your last sentence should be applied to EVERY aspect of life. Too bad most people are mental. >D
HybridIcecream 10 months ago
What was Futurama's term again? Schler?
HRCSJSUAMMAS 10 months ago
The Sapir-Wharf hypothesis? What next, Jungian shadows?
...V for Vaarsuvius?
IoEstasCedonta 11 months ago
right on. you, my friend, are officially metal. nice breakdown. most people honestly have no idea how to refer to people, and with my gender identity in flux right now, i dont even know how to refer to myself :P but yeah, definetly a great video.
teameld 11 months ago
You are clearly male, it's biological.
SpEcImEn128 11 months ago
Whatever the gender recogniation, you're still ****ing pretty either way =D I'm jealous T_T
kmelfina 11 months ago
I knew you were a guy when I first saw you.
Travelsbyshfflc 11 months ago
There is also the option of not using pronouns at all, and just re-using the person's name (or a shortened form of it).
Bob said that she was getting herself a drink -> Bob said that Bob was getting Bob a drink.
Can sound a little stupid, but that disappears if used enough, and it actually solves a lot of ambiguity problems in language when using pronouns.
And just for the sake of mentioning it, there are some people that prefer the 'it' pronoun.
SANTARII 11 months ago
"You wouldn't expect that 'they' refers to Pat."
Actually that is how it sounded to me originally, but I use 'they' more often than most in that way, and the more I use it the more normal it sounds (for me and the people around me).
I really think that singular 'they' is the best option, people often use it automatically anyway, when the gender is not known, so although it sounds a little off sometimes, it's a better place to start than anything else.
SANTARII 11 months ago
My psychology professor used "lee" as a gender neutral pronoun, sounded stupid so i just kept using they.
Snowgoon901 11 months ago
I mean, if I refer to someone as "they" it will be understood even if the listener might have a slight reaction of "why did he not say "he" or "she" ? But if I said "ze" or "ve" etc then I would get looked at very weirdly by all but the 0.5% of people who are interested in gender
orlando098 1 year ago
There are some examples of completely made up nouns coming to be widely used, but not something as fundamental as made-up pronouns. You can't just make people use terms, language has to evolve natually.
orlando098 1 year ago
I quite like the singular "they". It is already understood and widely used for things like "someone came by today looking for you and they left you letter" "if someone wants to go to France they should learn some French" etc where the gender is not known, and extending it to things like your example - Pat said they wanted to..... is just a small step. It is much more likely to be understood and used than some completely invented idea like sie or ve etc.
orlando098 1 year ago
Oh! Im going to use the V-pronouns now. This is awesome bcoz so far Ive just been switching between male and female pronouns to refer to you.
1982mockingbird1982 1 year ago
I really don't care what gender they are. I don't care.
IceChateau777 1 year ago
Stop talkin like a faggot, shave your head and dress masculine.
JamesGod08 1 year ago
@JamesGod08
Make me a sandwich bitch
Banaany 11 months ago
but we call babies its
hornylink 1 year ago
I use xe/xem/xyr(self) for myself and other people I know who prefer to remain neutral on the gender question. In a working context, or if I'm referring to a hypothetical person and don't want to assume gender, I sometimes use 'co', which is kind of a leftover hippy term I picked up on a commune. It's grammatically simple, which is a plus.
emmetgirl 1 year ago
On the subject of 'it': I get the impression that to some extent it is the way we construct gender in English that makes this seem such an inappropriate word to refer to a person. My friend's linguistic prof (who I believe is Turkish) was very put out when her suggestion to make 'it' the official gender neutral pronoun in English was rejected.
emmetgirl 1 year ago
Hey, I'm two years late but I'm an old fart and just catching up on all these Youtube conversations, but this was very well said. And the fact that you're a Greg Egan fan (I thought I was the only one) definitely earns you some friend points from me!
Have a good holiday break.
Illjord 1 year ago
im just stoked that you are into Greg Egan
epicproblem 1 year ago
Your a fag
Vriezenaar 1 year ago
@Vriezenaar If you're going to insult someone, at least check your spelling of the word "You're" as in "you are" rather than telling someone that "A bundle of sticks belongs to them" with a 2nd person possessive pronoun.
LuminOfMoonlight 1 year ago
I don't mind if people ask whether I'm male or female. Usually they're polite about it, even apologetic, like they feel like they should know and are sad or embarrassed they don't. I'm even fine with the usual follow-up question: "Are you gay?" Um, yes, I am, not that it's relevant to anything, but I understand people like being able to file others in neat little boxes. As long as you're not being mean or rude about it, ask all the questions you need.
hornygoatboy 1 year ago
Personally, I don't mind being called an 'it', but that's mostly because in my native language it's common to call everything and everyone 'it' despite all of our personal pronouns being gender-neutral. In any case, when anyone asks which pronouns they should use in English, I tell them to use whatever pronouns they please. I'm neutrois and as such I fall outside the gender binary: every "proper" pronoun is just about as inaccurate as the other. So, y'know, whatever floats your boat pal.
OneDragonmaster 1 year ago
Maybe Lojban has a solution for this problem?
Daghead 1 year ago
Bitches don't know 'bout his dick!
LuminOfMoonlight 1 year ago 11
@LuminOfMoonlight vis dick
Agitpropist 6 months ago
The "D&D expert" was spot on.
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oliveyaqwer 1 year ago
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cinnamondouche 1 year ago
well you have an adams apple so i spose your a dude in earings either way good luck with boring the internet mate
jameslee445 1 year ago
I like to use He and Her until I get corrected and I know, unless they don't mind
arachnophile01 1 year ago
you sound like stephan hawking's chair
Deathbringer135 1 year ago 7
@Deathbringer135 Ah.... aren't you clever. did they have to hold you back in school?
moopism 9 months ago
@moopism and aren't you lucky to have that much time. Scrolling back to comments posted 6 months ago and replying to them. i bet wallmart doesn't employ drop outs eh?
Deathbringer135 9 months ago
@Deathbringer135 funny thing about the ol' internet- the idiocy you post stays there for all generations to come to view as a warning against typing before you think.
The fact that six months has passed, and someone new has stumbled on this cretinous bilge of yours, means what? Nothing.
I'll bet Walmart employs people who don't capitalize or spell properly either.
moopism 9 months ago
@moopism You are a cretin of the highest caliber. You are the textbook definition of a pretentious douchebag.
Now i don't know if your father didn't hug you enough when you were a kid or if your uncle molested you or some other thing that seemed to have left a mark on you, but obviously you have a lot of anger built up inside you. And by looking at your previous comments, you seem to like taking out your 'anger' on a 15 year olds's opinion.
Do us a favour and get yourself some help.
Deathbringer135 9 months ago
@Deathbringer135 You're a 15 year old? That's explains everything, particularly the piss poor attempt at cripple humor.
moopism 9 months ago
@moopism And obviously you don't have a decent sense of humour.
Deathbringer135 9 months ago
@Deathbringer135 You're obviously too young and stupid to realize that some things aren't funny.
moopism 9 months ago
@moopism
Look, if you are that mature as you say you are. How about instead of replying to a comment that you think isn't funny from half a year ago with a half arsed jab, you go and prove that you are really that mature by NOT replying to the comment.
Personally I don't care what you think, but your replies are implicating that you obviously think that you are superior than me.
So get off your high horse and actually act the way you are implying in the comments.
Deathbringer135 9 months ago
@Deathbringer135 So that's your final defense of cripple humor? How dare I tell you something that may help you grow up?
Your parents must be so proud.
I you can't stand comments on what you post, then I advise you withdraw from the public forum.
moopism 8 months ago
@moopism Get over it and grow up. Throwing a tantrum just makes you look insecure.Secondly there was absolutely no advice in any of your comments what so ever. So if you think insults are going to make somebody grow up, i think you should reconsider retaking that parenting course again. * 4th sentence If*
Deathbringer135 8 months ago
@Deathbringer135 Parenting course? if offspring like you are what I'd have to look forward to, I'd choose castration.
Hard to believe you put this much effort into defending cripple insults while telling me to grow up. The irony is rich.
moopism 8 months ago
@moopism And you are a douchebag of the highest caliber, who doesn't know when to shut up. Seriously LET GO and GET OVER IT. :)
Deathbringer135 8 months ago
@Deathbringer135 yep, I sure am SONNY BOY, and I don't have to let shit go. Maybe you should let it go. Bet you can't.
moopism 8 months ago
@moopism Whatever mate. Whatever flows your boat. Heres a piece of advice: Don't reply with a half arsed jab in every comment.
Deathbringer135 8 months ago
@Deathbringer135 Gee, thanks sooooo much for the advise..... I ran out of toilet tissue and was wondering what to wipe my ass with.
I KNEW you couldn't walk away.
moopism 8 months ago
@moopism Now you're just being a jackass. -.-
Deathbringer135 8 months ago
@Deathbringer135 Sure am. So what's your excuse?
moopism 8 months ago
@moopism The reason I'm so faking annoyed at you ; its because i can't stand busybodies like you. So what if its a crap attempt at humour? it's not a reason to go lashing out at the person. i mean "did they held you back at school?" what the fuck is that for? whatever mate, im done with your sardonic remarks. If theres gonna be another insult in your reply, im blocking you. i dont care how much you're gonna scoff , i don't give a flying shit anymore. ok? are we clear?
Deathbringer135 8 months ago
@Deathbringer135 OOOOO! Such a macho he-man stud!!!!! I get a boner just thinking about it.
What's the matter? Can't swallow what you're dishing out? Fucking pussy.
moopism 8 months ago
@moopism Thats it. Fuck you. Fuck your parent who didn't have time to teach you manners. You are a cunt filled with buncombe. If America was filled with arseholes like you, I'm so flipping glad you ditched us in the battle for "independence". You are the stereotypical definition American; Ignorant, a Jackass, somebody who doesn't know when to shut up. Most of these comments were just completely uncalled for. You are a complete disgrace to your flag. You a pathetic excuse for a sentient being.
Deathbringer135 8 months ago
@Deathbringer135 Awwww, what's the matter? Did the widdle douchebag that tells cripple jokes get his sensitive feelings hurt???????
The difference between us is I'm man enough to admit I'm being a jackass. so I ask again: what's your fucking excuse?
You can certainly post rude bullshit, but you can't take it directed back at you, can you SONNY?
moopism 8 months ago
@moopism whatever
Deathbringer135 8 months ago
@Deathbringer135 Yeah whatever.... bet you got a purty mouth
moopism 8 months ago
@moopism whatever
Deathbringer135 8 months ago
@Deathbringer135 Yep whatever.
moopism 8 months ago
@moopism peace?
Deathbringer135 8 months ago
@Deathbringer135 All you had to do was ask.
moopism 8 months ago
@moopism so whats your name?
Deathbringer135 8 months ago
@Deathbringer135 kenneth
moopism 8 months ago
@moopism Joel here :)
Deathbringer135 8 months ago
@Deathbringer135 Hello Joel, nice to meet you.
moopism 8 months ago
He / She is just fucking with you all! Look at her/his Myspace it's say feminine, but in the video he/she says it's a boy! It's all very confusing!LOL
Viniciustlc 1 year ago
In cases like yours, where I can tell there is genderqueering going on, I generally would ask "How do you identify?"
I think it's respectful, not making assumptions one way or another, and it's subtle enough that if I was mistaken, someone not "family" wouldn't necessarily know what I was talking about.
Opaquegirl 1 year ago 2
Ive always known "he" and "him" to not only refer to male, but anyone. So "he" is both masculine and neuter. Ive been trying to develop an efficient language for a long time now because I just keep changing it. I think ill add a neutral gendered word. It could be very useful.
LotusDragon09 1 year ago
I prefer the "n" sound myself, as it connects to Neuter. I've tried to promoted Ne/Nar/Narin/Narself. On the plus side there a great Monty Python ref there involving objection to the word "it"
jpl10380 1 year ago
"i killed it"
tzoche 1 year ago
well what do you prefer , feminine or masculine pronouns? anyway i was at that stage too until i was 16, and you are right , there is no polite way to ask your gender. i was at the pool one time and this girl said in a very grossed out voice ,"are you a girl or a boy?" and i didnt even answer cuz she was rude about it. i know it sux!! and when i was a tour guide, a man complimented me and said," you are a very nice guy, you know that?" and i was like........" yyyyyyyeeeeaaa" =(( Lol
UTF5658 1 year ago
im pretty sure its going to burn in hell and i hope he does
Pocketlint888 1 year ago
holy fuck you have autism
Aman1212 1 year ago
@Aman1212 Holy fuck you have terrets syndrome
arachnophile01 1 year ago
@arachnophile01
Uhm... It's spelled tourettes, and I don't think that person has tourette's, that person's just an asshole. xD
SonicKyuubi 1 year ago
@SonicKyuubi Sorry, I was told of this dissease verbally, so I wouldn't know how to spell it.
arachnophile01 1 year ago
@arachnophile01
Don't blame you. It's one of those words that are a pain in the arse to spell.
SonicKyuubi 1 year ago
Okay, less trolling now. What about the problem of hurting feelings? Most women feel upset if they are mistaken for men (because their desired femininity is mocked), and most men feel upset if they are mistaken for women (because their desired masculinity is mocked). So is it really a good idea to make a GUESS when you talk to a gender-ambiguous person?
In your case, you probably want to incite thought and discussion with your appearance. But some people are gender-ambiguous by accident.
YourTaciturnFriend 1 year ago
I feel like screaming: "JUST ANSWER ZE QVESTION!!" You have some very eloquent and sensible advice about the entire subject, but you won't actually state your gender in any of the videos I have seen. Out of sheer nagging curiosity, I just want to know! It would clarify things so much better than a whole video about pronoun etiquette. You're plain-speaking and perceptive, and you *know* people want to know. So you're being pompous. Sorry dude. Or dudette.
YourTaciturnFriend 1 year ago
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You are a male your just acting like a female transvestie
RealDealDan46 1 year ago
I knew you were a he but i'm glad you're a she too.
PeterOnoLennon 1 year ago
The English language has many more failings than a lack of gender-neutral pronouns. In addition to a lack of consistency due to the huge amount of loanwords we use, we have no differentiation between singular and plural in the 2nd person, pronounciation is difficult and again awkward, and even native speakers like myself can't help but wish English would be modified slightly for sake of ease.
FibonaziProductions 1 year ago