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  • they should have changed the title of this game... :-x

  • i got the game and got bored of it in two seconds.

  • @Snakebite105

    I can't believe how they managed to make it look all crap. Vandal hearts used to be awesome, but wth is this shit?

  • @saiyoucho because Konami refuses to fund any of their games other then the Metal Gear series. They dump all their money into their core franchise and whatevers left over goes to crappy silent hill and castlevania rehashes even though they beat all 3 series to death several games ago. Theres just no money left for reviving their old series or making new ones.

    Tactical RPGs like this are all reduced to 2nd rate handheld or online store titles.

  • @Snakebite105

    Yeah it's a shame really. The thing I always wondered over though is how Konami was so incredibly stupid with not releasing Guitar Freaks, Drum Mania, Beatmania IIDX, and all other music games overseas.

    Just look att all clones which has taken over the world today. Especially DJ Hero which doesn't have shit against IIDX. >_>

  • @saiyoucho That makes a little more sense. Selling to PAL regions is stupid. almost 100% of the time its cheaper for PAL regions to just import their games from North America or Japan especially since PS3 can use games from all 3 codings.

  • @Snakebite105

    Actually it doesn't make ANY sense at all since none of those games have even been released for PS3. And it's a huge question why they haven't been.

  • @saiyoucho dont worry about it just import them and have fun.

  • @Snakebite105

    I think you completely missed the point that they never have been released for PS3. And importing for older consoles is annoying, expensive and has incredibly bad availability.

  • @saiyoucho yea this 1 on ps3 not the other ones tho

  • The true master piece was Vandal Hearts with Ash Lambert. The characters look weak and childish.

  • I have played this and I like the game, the battles and the level is higher than I was expecting, but the GREAT failure on this game is the art style, the characters look so childish like the ones of Code Lyoko. My position about Ryan Graff has not changed, he tried to develop a Vandal Hearts game, but it was a failure. I believe that Westerns developers are not the right people to develop this kind of games.

  • @Rhodoknightmon tons of western developers make great tactic rpgs, I think the problem is not that, it´s just... as you said, the desing in Code Lyoko remains all over teh series so its fans know what to expect, and they should do the same with Vandal Hearts, trying to make it look like a Vandal Hearts instead of trying to "westernize" the game. There are tons of western manga artist who could have worked on better and more "Vandal Hearts-ish" designs than those, me included.

  • i agree with hyosuke i dont like the art style the game in general seems like it will be a little disapointing but the first might have set the standards too high. but i will download this game or atleast try it.

  • Rofl no OFFENSE but this looks like it could run on PSX. Rofl.

  • This game makes a mockery of the original. Graphics may be prettier but the art style bugs me a lot. I wish they had stuck with the original people who drew the original characters so they had it drawn in their style, but with the same quality of graphics in the newer games. . .yeah.

  • @HyosukeMagumo I thought the same! graphics isnt everything which can be seen here. they should really kept the basicly characters from the first one and maked it with better graphics and new stages and all :) that would have been sweet

  • U MAD?

  • It would have been incredibly difficult for them to use the character designers from the original Vandal Hearts.

    #1 - The original was made almost 15 years ago.

    #2 - Try researching the character designers and tell me how much you find.

    #3 - This was produced by an American developer. The original was produced by Konami Japan.

    That's not to say they could have chosen better art direction, but to have the original designers would be some stretch.

  • I think it's pretty decent. I'm 15 hours in and I'm impressed with the story and dialogue. It's no FFT or Disgaea but it's solid and the customization is fairly deep. The only thing I don't like is the menu system. It's cumbersome and a little convoluted. But I'm enjoying and for $15 I really can't complain.

  • sunset261 thank you it's about time someone feels the same way for legend of dragoon i always wished they made a sequel for it too btw

    i also think this game blows and the character design looks ugly i mean i could've sworn one them looks like chucky

  • They're busy making dlc vandal hearts sequels yet legend of dragoon still isn't even on the ps1 classics? I don't know why sony is so stubborn in denying that LOD was a great game. We need another LOD not shitty mix between freerealms and vandal hearts.

  • @sunset261 I love Legend of Dragoon as much as I luv the first Vandal Hearts, I wish them both had a sequel as good as Suikoden II (VH and Sui are my fav Konami games)

    Sony is quite proud of LOD but it´s not up to Sony itself if there is a sequel or not, not even up to the company which first developed it.

    Sometimes, even if something is really good and it has a wide fandom, it´s just not so easy to create sequels... how would you continue something that is pretty much finished? XD

  • I don't really care about a sequel. What I want more than anything would be a next gen remake with updated graphics, voice acting, revamped battle system, and maybe a new secret boss or something. I just think a remake would be good because alot of people never knew about the original due to all the bad reviews.

  • I would LOVE to have the first Vandal Hearts or Legend of Dragoon remaked. I would probably die of happiness or something like that XD Specially talking about Vandal Hearts (since LOD do has voice acting an secret bosses and such) it would be nice to hear how the characters sound, to have b*tchy secret bosses, and maybe more freedom -being able to walk around maps like in most rpg and such thing-

    Well I guess you can, kinda, consider that "astral realm" as a "secret dungeon and boss" XD

  • this game is gay, digaea and ff tactics are way better

  • @yomom4202 lol in the end they are nothing but a copy of the first Vandal Hearts´ system. I am not saying they are better or worse, but if you are going to compare this new Vandal Hearts with FFTactics and Disgaea, you first have to realize that the first Vandal Hearts was their father XD and this new Vandal Hearts is just a short downloable game that is not even remotely as good as Vandal Hearts 1 and 2... and it doesn´t pretend to be as good, they only want to see how the fandom reacts.

  • doesnt look as good as Vandal Hearts 1 gameplay wise. seems too complicated

  • How can he say he's proud of the character portraits with a straight face?

    This guy is a hero.

  • hahahaha yea really

  • WTF! They said this Winter in less it comes this late Jan. I fell in love with the game because my uncle showed me that Ash had a seceret status. Me being 12 years old I was all kinds of WTF and the *** he told me how to get Vandalier trip me out. When is the release date?

  • It comes out this Wednesday on the 360, and Thursday on the PS3.

  • @b14z1n9k173 it was released today.

  • Loved the first one...thats reason enough for me to give this guy a chance...and hey, heres hopin it does well and they get a bigger budget to release a more in depth one in the future

  • I fookin love the vandal hearts games! took up so many hours of my life playin them again

  • oh I also hate the cartoon style, I would like it to have a serious manga style like the first one but the characters design are not so bad, I like the three girls a whole lot, and Tobias and that pirate guy are cool -stereotypical, but cool lol-

  • well, remeber it´s just for download and not a full game... I really want to play this new Vandal Hearts ´cos I am so in love with the first game, but in my opinion they should have done something classic and easy but still attractive like Megaman 9 for Wii or something, so that the fans would want to play it again. I, still, hope this game makes fans demand a new complete Vandal Hearts so that we can see what the hell happened to Ash in the end LOL

  • When will they learn.... we need a SHINING FORCE comeback, that was soooo great. Vandal Hearts is not so bad, but by looking at this trailer... the next chapter seems boring...

  • Vandal Hearts 2 was poor compared to the original. I don't know why they tried to reinvent the series instead of upgrading the original Vandal Hearts.

    This game isn't looking much better, to be honest. Vandal Hearts must really be an unwanted child if Konami Japan are delegating it to these nobodies.

  • its a XBLA/PSN-game, k?

    It can't compete with the original.

  • What makes you say that? The original was just an obscure game for the Playstation but people still adored it.

    Poor development and art design is why this game will suck - not the format.

  • listen, this is better then nothing - okay?

    stop your fucking bitching, and listen to what the pr guy says, if the xbla/psn game sells well, they might get back into the franchise again, but they dont know if its still popular, thats why the try this thing. I take this over nothing. but idiots like you just whine and attack it.

  • And wouldn't it have been more chance of reigniting the franchise if it actually look half-DECENT? This looks like it was designed for eleven years old, the characters are so cartoony.

  • I agree, but its hard to sell a very mature rpg over xbla.

  • they might ge back into it? woooooooooooooooooooooo every one buy it no matter what so we can get a full game that would b awesome!!!!

  • if you are being ironic, then dont get it, its up to you, im def getting it. it looks like a fun SRPG.

  • 10-12 hours of game play? Ohh WOW, Kickass game!!!

  • Yeah, they touted that like it's a really good thing.

    This game better have a good reason for replaying it.

  • Let me tell you something, CenetaurmanE52, this game is not only look childish, compared with VH1 and VH2, this is only crap. Why Konami allow to stupid people like Ryan Graff and a bunch of assholes "westerns" to create a failure named "VH flames of Judgement"?? what was happen to that great company who created great games like the Castlevania series? Sorry to tell you this but I am quite sure that YOU NEVER PLAYED VH1 AND VH2 BEFORE and I believe you will be the first stupid who will buy it.

  • So you assume that I never played Vandal Hearts 1 and 2?

    Admitingly, you're right about 2. But I have 1, and I'm about to finish the game on a no-death run. Assuming that I never played the game and managing to stumble on this is foolish.

    Not only that, but you provided no reason why the game is bad beyond the people making it, and you didn't even comment on the games these specific guys made when it's quite clear that they not only know what they're doing, but STILL are making great games.

  • Not only that, but even bad developers can bring great games. Remember Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks? The game had EVERYTHING going against it. It's part of the mythologies series, and both games were fairly bad, the two characters it focuses on are both very generic, and the developers of the game are the same people responsible for the Backyard Wrestling series.

    Despite all that though, it manages to be a great game and is easily one of the shining moments of the MK series.

  • Also, how the hell can I buy it when I don't own any of the current consoles? I can only play these if my friend's brother buys the game, and they couldn't care about Vandal Hearts.

  • So, is this out?

    Or are you guys just bashing it because it LOOKS childish?

  • This petty banter about how the game looks reminds me of the shit between Zelda fans and Windwaker -- and then when it was finally released, the same people who called it a "kiddy pile of shit" fell in love with it.

    Don't judge a game until you play it, people. Graphics aren't the be all and the end all.

  • you talk like 12 year old faggots.... game looks great

  • despicable!!!!! this idiot totally screwed up the VH series.....this game is gonna be a tragedy!!!! look at all the kidish characters, once Konami realizes that sells are plummeting, then they're gonna discontinue it..........hire someone who's useful please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Aww.... Now now, Here's my impersonation of Todeshand666 - Hey everyone! Look! Look at me! Look at the abortion who suddenly decided to have a brain and share it's opinion! In this fecal ridden existence of an abortion I suddenly had the ability to think! Look! look at me! -

  • Vandalized Hearts more like!! :(

  • i think this game is shit look horrible thinking of buying?? hell no

  • oh jeez... what did they do to vandal hearts? this looks horrible... Vandal Hearts is about brutal gritty tactical combat with a deep storyline, not this cartoon network crap aimed at the casuals.

  • OMG!!! What is Konami thinking about making this fistfull of Crap?? VH1 and VH2 fans will be dissappointed with this crappy title. Please if you had played VH1 and VH2, this game will make you cry. They didn't make a game, they only downgrade VH saga to a childish game that even a kid will not play. It's so sad to see how low has Konami fall. Sorry Ryan Graff but your version of Vandal Hearts is only a VERY expensive fistfull of CRAP.

  • i wish they still had the cheesy bor effects and i have yet to see the traditional blood splatter

  • Yeah, that "traditional" blood splatter that Vandal Hearts 2 pussed out on.

  • God... Look at those character portraits. *sigh*

    If anything, I hope this game sparks a REAL addition to the series.

  • You think those are bad? You've obviously never played Vandal Hearts 2.

  • I just played VH1 after a 8 year hiatus. Still one of the best ever. This one better not blow.

  • I just bought it today. It kind of blows. I stopped playing after the first fight because the characters were just so damn annoying and unbelievable. From what i've observed so far, the game just feels half-assed.

  • No Konami logo + "Westeners" + Gay Code Lyoko look alikes + No class (Uniform) changing = Epic Fails.

    Don't see Baldur's Gate anyware maybe the shadows, don't know??

    10-20 Hrs playing this might be torture and answers why not more...

    Don't see any good effort made on this game + westerners will get bad rep please make this better I bet VH fans will wait and appreciate a more adult oriented game than this teletubies crap...

    Best regards...

  • T_T Agree. This made me cry. I grew up on vandal hearts and this looks like their ruining it.

  • Protip: Vandal Hearts 2 ruined it first.

  • Uhh No. Graphics may not be the 'Be all end all' And Windwaker was good but the graphics helped convey feeling in the game. Ill admit that I'm judging the book by the cover here but it looks like they changed the look to make it more attractive to those just coming into the series rather then the older fans. while I will reserve total judgment for those '10 to 12 hours of gameplay' it is a very large let down for those who have been waiting since they beat VHII.

  • Protip: Vandal Hearts Two was awesome. Only thing missing was the fountains of blood. Plot was great Graphics where enjoyable character customization was Interesting and the characters were effective and believable within the fantasy setting.

  • No. It wasn't awesome. As a stand alone game it was "all right" at best. As a sequel to Vandal Hearts it was a complete pile of goat shit.

    Trust me. I played the first Vandal Hearts when it was released -- not after Vandal Hearts 2 came out, like most of you.

  • i got vandal hearts on release day and loved the ass of that game. didnt bother much with VH2 though.

  • I disagree. Like I said all it was lacking was the blood fountain effect.

    I don't know when I got mine. It was a birthday present when I was like 10 or something. But I hadn't known about VHII until I saw it in the middle of a store and bought it.

  • Yeah VH2 was not the sequel we were waiting for, I do think its OKAY but it failed to be as good as VH1. And they definitely need to make a true VH3, for a plot they need to make a storyline about what ASH LAMBERT did after he came back from the time warp and maybe tell what he did DURING his time in that other dimention. So many things they could do with his legendary character.

  • They should make a sequel where Ash is travelling through different dimensions settling scores, where is joined by different forces for each chapter of the game.

    This prequel looks like it's paying lipservice to VH1 and little else. Could the plot be any more clichéd? Young orphan serves a church during a civil war. No doubt the church will secretly be evil and his loyalties divided etc etc.

  • I think i like Joshua Better Than ASh but i love Vandal Hearts 1 and 2

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  • guys i won't any link for vh1 and vh2

    could anyone to help me?

  • Trying something new every freakin time, just stick to the good ol' crap they had. What's with all this 'trying out new looks' shit. XD Unless they really expect people to like it (which is so odd in this case)... just wtf.

    Should bring back Ash. <3

    Ash <3 <3

  • I know, right? Why couldn't they just import the first onto a new system?

  • Ash for life !!!

  • old good Ash please *-*

  • Did he just say 10-12 hours of gameplay? That's really short.

  • Yeah I was wondering the same thing. I hoped something like 30-40h

  • agreed they did however say they made this one to set up a bunch of other storylines. it could lead into lets say playing as Ash's dad (adolf ?) or even the great Arris the sage

  • well it´s a downloadable game, what did you expect for the money you are gonna pay xD

    They are trying to get some fans back with this little thing to bring a brand new game to the saga... let´s see how all of this ends XD

  • The character designs alone will make it hard to take this game seriously. Bet the Calvin Character will be a fan favorite.

  • WTF

    whats with the gay characters and shadows O_O cant see wtf is goin on :(

    why couldnt they just keep it like the first vandalhearts ... even how they move is crap in this... i prefer the game with GFX ... could have at least made the characters shiny and human like... looks like fucking XBOX live avatars :(

  • I think this is supposed to be a prequel to the first. I've had a little bit of hands on experience with it, and I can honestly say that I thoroughly enjoyed the gameplay and the story. It doesn't quite match up to VH 1, but it completely tramples VH 2. Any fan of strategy RPG's should get this game. Being a Vandal fan is just an added perk.

  • Well, it looks a bit odd, but the UI is a lot like the previous VH games. VH 1 was top-notch, best gan ever. VH 2 was a bit weird with the way combat was performed with dual movements and such. I really hope this game will be as good as I would hope for it to be.

  • vh1 was one of my favorite games of all time this game looks like it wont even compare to vh1

  • Why if technology is better tahn 12 years ago the games are worst?

    OH my God...VH1 was inspiring...story, graphics,characters design...

    This VH3 looks like a true shit...what a characters...its depressive...

  • This game looks pretty interesting, I wasnt a fan of VH2, I tried my best but the style of the characters, the battle system, it all annoyed to a point I couldnt even play. VH1 was definatly the best so far.

    This game does look like an improvment from VH2 where you know you can move and swing and go into a map the first time, choose where to swing only to have the monster walk around, attack, and you swing at nothing but air.

  • I must say....Those character face are not so awesome....

    Most of them look like Punk or retard nerd...

    I don't have anything again nerd but seriously..

    Even VH1 and 2 character was better.

  • NVM is not related to VH2 =(

    I liked VH1 battle and blood XD! But i think VH2 have an way better stories.

  • Is this Vandal Hearts 3?

  • the first one was definetaly the greatest VH of all times, they are only ruining the story by adding more to it, i played 1 , looked at 2 and 3 , never played them. if you play vandal hearts 1 u know why i say so

  • Geez, I get a thumbs down for criticizing the characters? Very mature guys.

  • RPGamer played it and loved it:

    watch?v=sDP40gdGE0I

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  • '' and we hope if enough people love it as much as we do we can do more with it''

    I for one shall not be buying this junk they could of used the old engine too and I as many fans of the originals would do, buy it.

    I'm utterly shocked at this, pathetic.

    How could they even dare call this Vandal hearts. to all the kids out there who have no god damn idea and say this is good, look up the old game, sure gfx may slightly be outdated but my god it looks ten times better than this junk.

  • "western developers". herein lies the problem. by adapting the series to appeal to a wider audience they've managed to piss the art direction and novelty of the original up the wall.

    yeah, dull 3D polygonal sprites and "fun" large heads are just what the series needed for a reboot. bound to please all those hardcore VH fans who are the only fuckers ever likely to buy this barrel of shit.

  • lol the part where he says "weve spent a lot of time on these character portraits". clearly not enough kind sir!

  • Where's the fountains of blood?! It's bad enough we have to endure the horrible character models, and short lenght...there had better be fountains of HD blood!

  • Graphics look great in my opinion and so does the gameplay, definitely a game to look forward to.

  • is this game only downloadable? i hope you can play as ash, huxley, and grog and the others :P

  • I don´t think so, this game takes part about 15 years before the first Vandal Hearts..

    But I wouldn´t mind seeying Ash´s father Aldor, Arris the Sage, a younger Clive, Doland and Magnus and the others...

  • i play vandal heart 1 & 2,.. but this new vandal heart is kinda cheap game.... i think its for kid

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