THE HYPOCRISY OF NASA AND THE GOV`T DO THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT THE DEATHS OF 12 YS OLD GIRLS AROUND THE WORLD. I WONDER HOW MANY 12 YS OLD GIRLS THE AMERICAN GOV`T HAVE KILLED AND MADE BED RIDDEN IN IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN,LIBYA, SYRIA AND ALL THE TERRORIST FALSE FLAGS AROUND THE WORLD AND HOW MANY 12 YS OLD THEY ARE EXPECTING TO KILL IN IRAN AND OBAMA THERMONUCLEAR WAR IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.DID THE AMERICAN GOV`T EVER EXPLAIN THE REAL PURPOSE OF THOSE DEEP UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES AND FEMA CAMPS.
Sometime in 1983 NASA created a problem claiming they saw some strange planetary body, beyond our solar system, possible heading towards us, now for the last 30 years they have been debunking the very same planetary body they claim to have seen, it just does NOT make sense, NASA A BUNCH OF FUCKING MAD SCIENTIST.
I question the purpose of these NASA DEBUNKING VIDEOS , since nobody is really interested in them , NASA is determine to put them up over and over again. nothing will happen in 2012 ,move on NASA. surely you can put the taxpayers money to better use.
THERE are hundreds if not thousands of Deep Underground Military Mases[ D .U .M. B.S ] and cities all over the world, which cost trillions and trillions of dollars to build enough to send all countries bankrupt, yet you never hear or see anyone showing them or talking about on any main stream media. Just like the FEMA camps and coffins not on main stream media, but they are all over YT thats strange. Then these people who call themselves scientist, saying don`t worry keep paying your taxes.
@shoeupon67 Then you switch to typical conspiracy talk. You reference 'DUMBS', but again, like everything else, you don't prove it. Same with FEMA camps. You're quick to note how it's 'strange' that these subjects are on YouTube but not in the media. I don't find it strange at all--YT has absolutely nothing in terms of fact-checking or editing required to post a video. A YT video could assert, for example, that Abe Lincoln was never a US president, provide zero evidence, it still get posted.
@ThreeFangCat I really don`t know why some people put all their faith and trust in the Government ,NASA and Scientist. I believe most scientist are good people and mean well, but since most scientist work for the Government and are being paid by them, they have little or no choice but to carry out the orders of their Gov`t . If scientists want to tell the public about any catastrophic event , not being in the best interest of the Gov`t, certainly the Gov`t will not let them.
@shoeupon67 It's not a matter of me denying anything. It's a matter of you not bringing evidence for your claims. You haven't shown scientists have little choice but carry out orders of the government. You haven't shown the government would not let them warn the public. You haven't shown DUMBS and FEMA 'death camps' exist.
Again, the problem is your lack of evidence for anything. You just sit there and make claims with nothing behind them.
@ThreeFangCat IF you are denying DUMBS and FEMA CONCENTRATION DEATHS CAMPS exist in America, it only shows what side you are on, what can i say the Government also denies it.
@shoeupon67 PS: The claim of what 'side' I'm on is little more than hollow ad hominem thrown in lieu of valid evidence. It is a logical fallacy and completely invalid for proving any particular point.
@shoeupon67 You made the claim, the burden of proof is yours. Your attempt to falsely shift that burden is a logical fallacy (again!) and wholly invalid.
You're just another 2012er with no evidence for your wild claims, arguing away with logical fallacies in an attempt to sound like you have a point. You don't.
@ThreeFangCat The next thing you will tell me is that 9/11 was not an inside job, it was done by an old man who lived in a cave somewhere in the mountains in Afghanistan.Or maybe it was done by some terrorist name AL-Qaeda, if you say AL-Qaeda you will be right,Al-Qaeda is code for United States government planned false flag operations. These false flag attacks have been carried out by the Air Branch of the CIA Special Operations Group.
@shoeupon67 You're misrepresenting me. I said you failed to provide evidence for your claims. It's no different from your 9/11 claim, which was made with zero evidence. The problem here isn't me, it's you and your logical fallacies.
@ThreeFangCat I heard the American Government have employed hundreds of Debunkers, but i never really believe that. The government will only do that if they have something to hide, DO THEY ?
@ThreeFangCat Most people making comments here have already done extensive research on the subject they are discussing.If you so desire to qualify yourself as a professional debunker you should do likewise and just don`t HIDE behind a computer and ask the commenters to present you with evidence.The commenters don`t work for you. DO EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON THE TOPICS YOU WISH TO DEBUNK, HAVE YOUR ARMS AND AMMUNITIONS READY TO PROVE TO THE COMMENTOR WHERE HE/SHE IS WRONG.
That was merely a long-winded way of trying to reverse the burden of proof. I don't have to prove they are wrong, THEY have to prove they are right. You're assuming they've backed their claim with valid evidence, and therefore the claim is right until proven wrong, which is silly.
As an aside, you are purposely misrepresenting my asking for evidence with having done no research. My channel comments have example after example of research I've done.
PS: You're just bouncing from argument to argument, hoping to find traction. However, finding a new way to state a logical fallacy does not make it any more valid. It's also worth noting you've abandoned your own claims long ago.
@ThreeFangCat One of the powers of any Business,Organization or Government is their SECRETS, if you reveal your business secret you destroy your business, if a Government disclose all their false flags and covert operations inside their country against its own citizens they would soon be out of office.When Government keep secrets they have an edge over their citizen. IF something catastrophic is to happen ending 2012 we will never know till the EVENT. In the main time keep paying your taxes.
@shoeupon67 So, you just switched topic AGAIN. Now it's a general hypothesis about keeping secrets, but you don't show any issue, much less a 2012 issue, being kept from the public.
D Gov`t n Morrison concern are the public pay their TAXES .These people who call themselves scientist are babies in the drinking milk stages in respect to the knowledge of the universe. They tell you this is how it is today and tomorrow they come back and say no it is not so it is that way, and a few months later they come back again and say it is another way. There is no way of telling the future but by the past, everything that is was and everything that was will be.The future is in the past.
MR MORISSON DID THE 12 YEARS OLD girl also told you she was worried about a world war 3 in 2012 . I THINK WE should be more worried about OBAMA than any in coming object from space, the only object will be coming from space is OBAMA NUCLEAR BOMB. MR MORISSON you should make a vid about the expected incoming nuclear bomb from space in 2012 and send it to the 12 years old girl.
2012 is the end of a 26000 years cycle no one knows exactly what will happen except that we will be entering a 2000 years of photon light what that mean we just have to wait and see.
@shoeupon67 26000 years refers to the precession of the equinoxes. It doesn't 'start' or 'end' on any given date. It takes 26000 years for the full circle. Where is the 'start' or 'end' of a circle? Is there any other kind of light than 'photon' light? Are you referring to the complete nonsense of a 'photon band'? Photons do not form into structures like 'bands'. Where are you getting this nonsense?
HUMANS HAVE ALWAYS LIED TO ME~ I have never lied to myself. As for believing or not... I THINK PEOPLE FEEL SOMETHING IS HAPPENING~ & want a clear answer. BUT~ Mabe NO-ONE is lying on this topic? Mabe each personally believe what they have investigated and now speak about~to be true? NOT each PERCEPTION OF INVESTIGATION & WHICH PARTS THEY TEND TO LOOK FOR DURING TO VALIDATE THEIR OWN "GUT FEELING"~IS GOING TO SUIT YOURS?NASA ISN'T GONNA TELL US SHIT PEOPLE! The World is so overpopulated! COULDNT
NASA is not an agency known for TRUTH so even if he is speaking the TRUTH i certainly will not believe him, And who is so foolish as to ask him that is known NOT TO SPEAK THE TRUTH A QUESTION . I DON`T THINK ANYBODY EVER WRITES HIM.
Seriously? You wouldn't believe a person you know to be telling the truth? That says to me you're more wrapped up in the person and not so much the message.
In any case, the issue with 2012 comes down to evidence. Believe NASA or not, the 2012ers still have to prove their claims by backing them with valid evidence.
@ThreeFangCat 2012 HAS A lot to do with cycles 26000 years cycles 13000 years cycles, it also has to do with the transit if venus and also the solar system passing through the photon belt all happening in 2012. IN june 2004 there was a transit of venus 6 months later we had the indonesia earthquake and tsunami on the 26 of december 2004 on the 6 of june 2012 there will be another transit of venus 6 months later about 21 of december 2012 biggest EARTHQUAKE IS EXPECTED.
@shoeupon67 'Predicting' earthquakes is meaningless. Every few days there is a significant earthquake on Earth. So to make the correlations you make, and show causations, would take a lot more than citing a few 'hits'. This would be best demonstrated with a peer reviewed paper in a respected journal, or you could sit down, write your own, and submit it. If you're so correct, you should get instant fame.
As for NASA, all you did was reiterate empty claims of them lying.
“The earthquake that occurred on 12/26/2004 had very close ties with Venus transit on 6/8/2004. The Earth, Venus and the Sun were on one line, and furthermore this line pointed toward constellations Taurus ,Orion, Gemini, where the main gravitational tug from space, closest stars, and nebulas comes from.
@shoeupon67 Your ideas regarding gravity are nonsense. There is no 'main gravitational tug' from those constellations. If there were, we would have an 'Orion Tide' or something like it. The gravity of all of the planets combined has about 2% of the effect on the earth that the 14-day perigee-to-apogee motion of the moon does.
@2012hoaxorg `` Your ideas regarding gravity are nonsense `` 6 months after the transit of venus [6/6/2004] we had the biggest earthquake and tsunami in indonesia [26/12/2004] NOTE- The the indonesia earthquake was predicted 3 months before it happen. Likewise the next and last transit of venus for this century will be 6/6/2012 the next biggest earthquake for this century is predicted to be along the west coast california area about 6 months after about 21/12/2012.
@shoeupon67 You also haven't addressed my point. If gravity is the culprit, then why don't earthquakes and volcanoes follow a 14 day or 28 day pattern? After all, the gravity of the sun and moon combine on the full moon and new moon to cause spring tides, and the tidal effect of the moon varies by 25% over 28 days as it moves from perigee to apogee and back. Why don't we see one or both of these patterns?
@shoeupon67 a six month interlude? In other words, you are so desperate to tie anything to the transit that you're willing to go out six months? I suggest you look up 'post hoc, ergo propter hoc'. Its a fallacy of logic. You seem to use it a lot.
@ThreeFangCat There is no credibility in NASA someone who is known to lie for so long , no one will want to believe anything they say. TRUTH OR LIE YOU RUN FROM THEM.
@ThreeFangCat 2/3 “The Earth’s axis is tilted toward those constellations during the present era, and during that time there was also grouped the inner planets. Additionally, the Moon was (end of spring, beginning of summer) was in its highest position in the sky, so its tidal forces were strongest. During the Indonesian earthquake and tsunami Venus was again in the identical position 7 months before.
@ThreeFangCat 3/3 VOLCANO “There was similar catastrophe on 8/26/1883, what happened Less than 9 months after Venus transit from 12.6.1882, when Krakatoa volcano erupted, accompanied with earthquakes, tsunami killing 10000 people died.
There appears to be a 6 month interlude between the Venus transit and major earthquakes, volcanoes and/or tsunamis.
@shoeupon67 What you just did was substantially weaken your case. First it was earthquakes, now it is earthquakes, volcanos, and tsunamis. The more supposed effects you list, the more the correlation becomes irrelevant. The more effects you consider to be validation of your idea, the less meaningful it becomes. You've also opened your acceptance window to 9 MONTHS, which is a total of a YEAR AND A HALF when counted on either side. That's ridiculous. (continued)
@shoeupon67 Your case also uses cherry picking. If Venus is the big issue here, it is an effect that traces back BILLIONS OF YEARS. Yet you have only a smattering of examples, with little or not attempt to check negative events and no sourcing.
Further, given this long history of Venus transits, you haven't addressed why 2012 is somehow magical.
As an counter example, every day in my life that I've sneezed, there has been an earthquake. Do you think my sneezes cause earthquakes?
@ThreeFangCat I don`t know what will happen in December 2012, I will just keep an open mind, anything is possible we are new to this universe. IT only takes one large solar flare to finish us off or a few nuclear bombs. IF real disaster is expected in 2012 don`t expect GOVERNMENT to tell us. And if nothing will happen they will make us feel something will, so we will never know till the EVENT. Since so many cycles seems to be peaking in December 2012 anything is possible.
@ThreeFangCat GOVERNMENT inside job is always possible.IF NO big natural disaster happen The GOVERNMENT CAN always create one and you know they are good at that, considering how they want to reduce the world population. IMAGINE OBAMA IS begging for a world war 3 . SO either way we are doomed.
@ThreeFangCat [ As an counter example, every day in my life that I've sneezed, there has been an earthquake. Do you think my sneezes cause earthquakes? ``] I don`t mean small earthquakes , I mean big ones , like what happen in japan and indonesia the next big one is expected in california , and it will be the biggest of the big for 2012.
@shoeupon67 My example was simply illustrating the fallacy of assuming causation is automatically proved by correlation. In your case, when you expand the time frame to as much as year and a half, and then add in other disasters when you don't get the hits you want, it pretty much becomes completely irrelevant. You're just cherry-picking.
@shoeupon67 Hm... I happen to live in California, and while we *always* expect an earthquake, I seem to have missed the news about the "next big one" here... unless you mean the nonsense posted to YouTube by the people who think that planetary alignments (or tiny comets) can cause earthquakes.
@2012hoaxorg Hm... I happen to live in California, and while we *always* expect an earthquake, I seem to have missed the news about the "next big one```--- -IF YOUR GOVERNMENT KNOWS YOU THINK IT WILL BE WISE FOR THEM TO TELL YOU. IF I AM THE GOVERNMENT I WILL NOT TELL YOU , WHO WILL PAY MY TAX.? Always remember to the Government you are only a slave #765483456. Check your birth certificate you were given that # the day you were born.
@2012hoaxorg ````There are always catastrophic events on the earth,````------IF there are astronomical events and planetary alignments that cause earthquakes, the TRANSIT OF VENUS is just one of them. The only difference with the`` Transit of Venus `` is the predictability of time, location and magnitude.
@shoeupon67 No, you haven't proven the transit of Venus is meaningful at all. You're cherry picking. You have a HUGE acceptance window. You're accepting multiple types of disasters as validation. Your mechanism is, at best, laughable. And you have presented no historical rundown for an effect that should have been going on for billions of years. You don't have statistical analysis to show significance.
@ThreeFangCat 1/2 Venus transits are rare, and tend to come in pairs. The current pair occur during 2004 and 2012. The previous pair occurred back in 1874 and 1882, then 1761 and 1769, and so on back through history. Venus is our nearest neighbour, and during this transit, or conjunction with the Sun, is only about 26 million miles away from the Earth. I present here an edited version of Pavel's explanation of his theory:
@ThreeFangCat 2/3 The Earth's axis is tilted toward those constellations during the present era, and during that time there was also grouped the inner planets. Additionally, the Moon was (end of spring, beginning of summer) was in its highest position in the sky, so its tidal forces were strongest. During the Indonesian earthquake and tsunami Venus was again in the identical position 7 months before.
@shoeupon67 with every post you are showing that you are completely ignorant of gravity.
Please show us WITH THE MATH how the moon being higher in the sky causes its tidal forces to be the strongest. Please also show us WITH THE MATH what the tidal forces on the earth from the planet Venus are.
@ThreeFangCat 3/3There was similar catastrophe on 8/26/1883, what happened Less than 9 months after Venus transit from 12.6.1882, when Krakatoa volcano erupted, accompanied with earthquakes, tsunami killing 10000 people died.
"Such similar super catastrophe had happened in 416A.D. Again, according my calculations, within 1 year of a Venus transit!"
The next transit will be June 6, 2012. So what will happen then?
@shoeupon67 You're trying to draw grand conclusions from a minute sampling. There is still no clear reason given why 2012 is so important. As I have noted, Venus transits have been going on for billions of years.
@shoeupon67 "2012 is also the year we may have a Global Economic Collapse, World War 3 and a Great Depression."...We "may have" any or all of those things in 2013.Or we "may have" them in 2014,or 2020,or 2056.Or we might not have them at all.Don't you see how the term "may have" makes your assertion meaningless?
@shoeupon67 The point I was trying to make about your acceptance window is that it is so wide any conclusions drawn from it are irrelevant. It doesn't matter how rare the Venus transit itself is. We have, on planet Earth, an average of 1 earthquake of 8+ magnitude every year. Add in Volcanos, Tsunamis and whatever else, and you can make the 'prediction' of a disaster around AND DATE 'come true' REGARDLESS OF WHEN IT OCCURS. That's how the 'theory' is bullshit.
@ThreeFangCat@ThreeFangCat [ There is still no clear reason given why 2012 is so impor] 2012 is very important because a number of cycles seems to be ending and beginning in 2012 eg [1] 2012 is the beginning of a 2000 years light journey through the photon belt.[ [2] 2012 is the end of a 12000 years of a dark age [3] 2012 is the end of the 5th age,[4]end of the 4th world.[5]end of the modern world [6].end of the last generation.[7] 2012 is the year of the pole shift.
@shoeupon67 You need to prove this 'photon belt' exists and this 'pole shift' is coming. You need to define what kind of pole shift you mean, since it's not a real science term but rather an ill-defined pseudoscientific term. You did neither. And I don't particularly care about New Age created Dark Ages or 5th ages, predictions of end of modern world or last generation which you cannot prove.
So all you have is weak correlations and guesswork. Poorly done.
@ThreeFangCat ````` Its pretty clear what the problem with it is. You have no evidence.`````If there are no Documented Hard Evidences to support my claims then i will base my claims on my own personal feelings and experiences, and there can be no stronger proof than your own personal experience, and i am not even a religious person and i am feeling change. I believe we are getting rid of the old and moving into the new. If I am wrong then we are moving from bad to worst.
@shoeupon67 You may have spent 2 hours,but you spent them getting "informations" without any scientific merit whatsoever.Simply google "photon belt" and you'll find how it's complete nonsense and that people have been making predictions about it affecting Earth for many years.Why should anyone believe that this "photon belt" should have any impact on us this year when all the past predictions for it have failed?And more specifically,why do you believe it?
@Fordham1969 I believe in the Photon Belt of 2000 years of light for the simple reason i feel much lighter and different these days, I feel something is happening you cannot bring in the new until you first get rid of the old. Something very bad will happen to this planet and then something very good. The end of the old in 2012 and the beginning of the new after. This if from my own personal feeling and prediction.
@shoeupon67 When it comes to making claims on physical reality, your feelings not evidence. It's really that simple. Instead of cut and pasting from some 'theory' you found on the internet, you could have saved a lot of time by being honest from the get-go.
@ThreeFangCat ```` Instead of cut and pasting from some 'theory' you found on the internet, ```` This only shows i am not the only person believes that theory. Great minds think alike.
@ThreeFangCat All the evidences are in the past, why do you think they have ARCHAEOLOGIST and HISTORIAN what do they look for, not EVIDENCE as I said the evidence of the future is in the evidence of the past.
@shoeupon67 Talking about vague 'evidences' is irrelevant. You've presented nothing except a broken 'theory' you copied from someone else, a series of claims with considerable circular logic, 'evidences' with absolutely no reference and your feelings which don't matter a whit when it comes to physical reality.
@ThreeFang What I think you should do is work with the people that make comments towards finding the truth or near the truth as possible as to what may happen in 2012 so we can all be forewarned n forearmed instead you just seems to be knocking every body who has a different view from you.You also seem to have a lot of faith in todays scientist who were born yesterday, and refused to believe in the knowledge and w/dom of the people who were living thousand n t/sand of years ago.
@shoeupon67 All you're doing at this point is trying to turn the conversation to whether your claims have been backed with valid evidence to a discussion about me. I'm not the issue here, whether there is a valid 2012 claim is.
Your discussion has been largely pseudoscientific. When I apply scientific demands to it, it falls apart and suddenly you hop on the anti-science bandwagon. You want to say those who lived a long time ago had special wisdom, yet you don't prove that, either.
@shoeupon67 Followup note: Quoting end of modern world and end of the last generation as proof for your claims which supposed CAUSE these things is a form of circular logic and a clear logical fallacy.
@ThreeFangCat [con`t] [8] 2012 is the end date of the popular mayan calender, [9] 2012 is the end of a 26000 years orbit cycle through a section of the galaxy, and [10] of a 5125 years cycle.
@shoeupon67 And that is one very big 'if'. Astronomical events are common. So are various catastrophic events (earthquakes, volcanoes, etc). Since both are common, maybe we should look to see if earthquakes cause transits?
@shoeupon67 There are always catastrophic events on the earth, so you can easily point to something and say "look, this [earthquake/volcano/landslide/whatever] happened after that [transit/eclipse/supernova], therefore it was caused by it!".
But just because B followed A doesn't mean that A caused B. 100% of serial killers consumed dihydrogen monoxide in the 48 hours before their crimes. Did the dihydrogen monoxide cause them to kill?
If it isn't Nibiru~that caused our previous "pole shifts"...what did? I FEEL THERE IS GOING TO BE A POLE SHIFT OR SOME KIND OF MASS INSTINCTION~ What caused the previous ones is my question as I feel Nibiru is BS too~I THINK? HELL I KNOW SOMETHINGS COMING IN THE NEXT 10 years... I feel the earths vibration rising~ AND I KNOW I FEEL THIS STRONG! SO THEY ARE INCREASING~ It has affected me terribly!
I would agree that 'something' is coming in the next 10 years, but only insofar that the prediction is so terribly vague it's meaningless. As for a pole shift, the term is vague and I don't know if you mean rotational, magnetic, or crustal shift. 2012ers waffle between these.
It comes down to evidence, not feelings. People were 'feeling' destruction was coming in 2003, with many of the same claims. What happened?
@ThreeFangCat ~what happened at that time was the vibration, ring, or panic key not feeling but, noise, feeling, and visual changing correspondence with this vibration~ increased more. ~ JUST SENSE DEC 2011 has it been increasing at such a scarily almost UN-TOLERABLE RATE SO QUICKLY! As for which kind~ I would not know as I have not studied our previous "Pole Shifts"...ONLY THAT WE HAVE HAD THEM? EVERYONE AGREES ON THAT!
@JohnnyDPleadian Your feelings are really quite irrelevant for establishing physical reality. I notice you didn't answer my question about 2003, particularly considering your YouTube identity, you should be particularly aware of that, right?
So, you are talking about pole shifts, implying causation through loaded questions, and yet you don't know what one is? But you're sure we have had them. How do you know, if you have no idea what they are? That's just silly.
This man is coming from a true scientific perspective which i appreciate. His intentions speak more so than any info provided by this video. However, Science is a funny thing. After all SCIENCE said the earth was flat in early civilizations of man. Look at the models proposed over the centuries of atoms and how they were composed from Thompson to Rutherford. The term science in itself is a play on words and a fallacy; and, more importantly a play on understanding and the human mind to reason.
@XGod0 I find it ironic you attempt to impeach evidence-based science using a computer, which required proficiency in quite a few scientific principles to make possible. I'm going to further guess that isn't the only thing you take advantage of the advances of science.
@ThreeFangCat So the advancements in science work? I guess one would have to define work (and by the way your example is an absolute opposite and polar extreme for that matter, that deals with definite tangible data) Does it work when medical laboratories release ground-breaking treatments and medicine that do help cure or treat the immediate ailment but then however have severe and in most cases much less desirable outcomes than what the original infliction sustained? You know what the FDA is?
@ThreeFangCat I never said mathematics and it's fundamental concepts are flawed, which is more of the direction your going with computer technology and the systems they operate on. Science try's to get its hands in everyone's problems to provide pristine disclosure when In all reality the margin of advancement versus fuck ups and set backs really isn't that extraordinary and relatively even. Something based on probability with a 50/50 chance i doubt either of us would take. At least, w/ life
@XGod0 I was actually referring to the science behind computers, such as the behavior of electricity. (Please don't put words in my mouth.) And yet, you use one quite readily. And I'm guessing you benefit from science is a myriad of other ways as well.
What science has let humanity do is learn. In this learning process, we have discovered previous ideas are wrong, and thus discarded. You attempt to ridicule failures to make your false point.
I dare you to live without scientific achievements.
@ThreeFangCat Your last statement was absolutely arbitrary. You realize subatomic particles and the physics that govern it are an audacious example of scientific rigidity. Since when was Quantum physics set in stone? The word "interpretation" in itself shouldn't find itself in any scientific scholars vernacular because the definition of interpretation opens discrepancies in provided data from varying sources on the same subject. That in itself contradicts sciences livelihood. 500 spaces blows.
@XGod0 Allow me to restate since you didn't understand: I dare you to live without the technological advances derived from scientific methodology. If it's so bad, surely you can do without.
But, instead, you sit there typing on your computer. Pontificate all you want, actions speak louder than words.
@ThreeFangCat You mean reiterate? You've worked in circles with your argument this entire time. I thought it was a fair intellectual debate not some egotistical pride demo that'll never be heard for anyway. its a youtube vid. At this point its far to obvious your simply into uber trolling. Either that or your free hand must be completely inundated in somatic cells. Your rhetoric is incredibly poor and i will not carry on this charade any longer. I never said this world had NO place for science
My point was not you were claiming the world had no place for science. It was that you take advantage of scientific findings on a regular basis, yet you are so quick to be critical of it.
Even the millions of still practicing Mayan descendants know that their Mayan calandar holds no significance. They said it means nothing, and that the Mayan long count calendar ends on Dec. 21 2012 and it just goes into the next baktun, just like how our calendars go into the next year on Jan. 1st. It means nothing.
Sounds to me Vivos is profiting off of peoples stupidity. Just like all the rest of these organized doomsday theorists. Buy info, buy t shirts, buy my underground bunkers. I'm going to make Doomsday 2012 collectors plates and bumperstickers.. so i can get on this huge money making scam. This is exactly like a religion.. false claims only to scare the mindless into coughing up their money to save them from something thats not even going to happen.
@Theoriginaljkarma Well, what about them? Do you have anything more specific than hand waving and 'wakey wakey'? Because, that's not really very convincing of any particular point.
@ThreeFangCat, well, I was gonna write, anybody who cant understand that the ice caps are melting in front of our eyes is either blind, def & dumb or completely Ignorant but Hello, wakey wakey seemed much more fun.
& Nope, I'm just stating the obvious. dont mean any harm, but David Morrison says there is no evidence of a pole shift, when infact the ice caps are indeed melting & thats where the poles are atm. not trying to convince anything, PeAce & goodluck
@Theoriginaljkarma So, polar ice caps melting is evidence of a vague 'pole shift' which isn't even clearly defined, much less how that melts polar ice caps? Do you have any actual science behind this?
As far as you not trying to 'convince anything': yes you are.
@Theoriginaljkarma So, the answer is NO, you don't have any actual science behind your claim. Just frightened hand waving about an ill-defined 'pole shift'.
@ThreeFangCat who gave you the right to ANSWER for some body else? infact your telling Lies.
I dont like to make conversation with that sort of person.
your the kinda person who would believe the world is flat! because you havent got the understanding that was god given. you cant even fully understand the word under stand. next time ! speak for yourself, if it makes you feel better. peAce
@ThreeFangCat Thanks for letting me know I can feel free, Watch your manners before you speak for somebody else! Who Gave you the right to answer for me? You answer '' NO '' For me & tell me im frightened.
I am by no means frightened! neither is my hand waving & YES I do
scientific fact: 1 The ice caps are melting & scientific fact: 2 thats where the poles are.
@Theoriginaljkarma No. You still have nothing backing the two are related events, nor proof of 'pole shift', whatever that is. Correlation does not imply causation.
For an observation to be evidence of a claim, it has to actually support said claim. The reason you have no evidence is you haven't gone beyond mere correlation. Your argument suffers from the logical fallacy, "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc" or "Affirming the consequent." This is what I mean by correlation does not imply causation. The fact I haven't used that particular wording until now doesn't make it any less true.
@Theoriginaljkarma What you are referring to is subjective truths, not objective facts. Faith-based claims deal primarily with the former, science with the latter. In that way, whether an observation is valid evidence for a claim is not a matter of subjective truth. I think the problem is you don't personally expect objective fact, and that is fine. Just don't represent it as such.
@Theoriginaljkarma All I was saying is that if you want to believe things subjectively, that is fine. However, claiming them as objective isn't valid. At the bare minimum, you'll may get questions about what you're saying.
I have no idea how you are attempting to invoke 'correlation for causation'. I'm not sure you understand the idea I was trying to communicate in the first place.
man dominates land, controls food/water/resources. Installs a social system. Places value on an arbitrary conduit for trading (labor/slave) purposes. All social designs have been based on this premise. Stop normalizing mass ownership. Abolish central powers. Learn to self sustain. Once you don't need them, they will stop lying to you because there is no benefit. I advise you fear a more realistic threat to waste your time on.
People are soo funny. Humans will be on this planet for a long time. That means until we go extinct just like the 99% of all life that has ever lived has. Whenever that will be. tens of thousands of years Im sure.
Don't worry about Nibiru?, worry about a secret military technology that can provoke earth quakes? And financial manipulators that can grow or crush counties? In the last statement I do believe.
The world is in paranoia. We don't trust each other any more, and with good reason.
@Markus2976 Ya, quoting a 'paper' from God knows who that right off claims gravity isn't real. I've seen it before. You should try getting science paper from professional journals, where the peer review process vets out this sort of garbage.
All that is Holy on this Earth is David Morrison and NASA as it looks človek. Some yogis travel in galaxy a long time before a small step for man. Life in space and people on Earth? ()14? E? KE? Chi? Quadra? Prana?,... Free will on atOmIc lEVEl?
Lets see, you work for the government, get paid by the government, so you speak for the government.Our government lies about EVERYTHING. Since you speak for them it could be deducted that you lie for them as well. Whats with all the underground bases being built?All the food being stored? Whats with all the seeds being preserved in seed vaults around the world? DNA of animals?Whats with the wars to gain oil reserves from oil rich nations?It seems your theory NASA, doesn't hold water.Peace.
@chewycandy666 So you look the fact that NASA was right on Elenin and the nutters were wrong straight in the eye and declare NASA lied. Asking loaded questions doesn't change what happened.
@ThreeFangCat Unless you are staring at the sky with the right equipment you will also have to take their word for it that there is nothing else around that may hit. For all we know Elenin was the blue star and the red star is right behind it. They certainly wouldn't want the public to know this giving that anarchy would certainly be declared in the face of enilation.There are way too many secrets about our government that have yet to be revealed.Certainly NASA has a few.Peace.
@chewycandy666 You miss the point entirely. Nutters made predictions about Elenin, how doom was upon us. And then... nothing happened. And yet, you act as if it is NASA that lies, based on same old unfounded claims. It's the same freaking routine. It wasn't true before Elenin fizzled, and unless solid evidence comes out, there's no reason to assume the claims to be any better this time around.
You need a new story. You need evidence. You have neither.
@ThreeFangCat NASA has lied in the past about many things. Do you actually think the public knows everything they've discovered? Perhaps they didn't lie about Elenin but they certainly have secrets.I'm not a doomsayer but I have my doubts that all NASA has said about what they know and don't know, it is questionable at the very least.Believing a government agency has no merit at all these days. To simply say "the gov said so, so it must be true" is old and weak. I don't buy it at all. Peace.
@chewycandy666 So, even though we can conclusively prove they were right about Elenin and the nutters lied, you're going to continue to fly in the face of reality and preach that NASA lies as a sort of justification for a myriad of accusations. Meanwhile, my mention of the word 'evidence' falls on deaf ears.
Put simply, you assume the worst with no evidence, and act as if it is rational, even when pointed out the nutters lied and NASA told the truth.
@chewycandy666 The *greater* point here is WHY the nutters failed. They didn't have evidence. It was perfectly clear they were going to fail in their fantasy before the date ever came along. I was there, arguing how evidence was important, how without it, there is no basis for a claim. So when I see people acting the same way, I can pretty much guess their claims will fare no better when faced with reality.
On Friday November 6th at 2132 UT (16:32/ 4:32PM EST) asteroid 2009 VA barely missed Earth when it flew just 14,000 km above the EARTH. 2009 VA was discovered just 15 hours before closest approach by astronomers working at the Catalina Sky Survey.IT PASSED BETWEEN THE MOON AND EARTH.
all i want to say is leave me alone you no who i am talking to i wont tolerate this wave abuse satelite abuse or any kind anymore leave to alone and i mean it
@ridddick7394 Yes well he has most likely read them all. If he didn't write a few of them himself. I attended a speach David Morrison gave here in the county I live in Brevard County,Florida. And I found it very insightful and stimulating.
What's happened with Comet Elenin. Its October the 28/10/2011 I haven't heard anything about it. No media Coverage No Youtube Coverage. The 25/9/2011 was the big thing on Youtube. And now nothing no update on Comet Elenin or the 3 days of Darkness or doomsday. can someone tell me please.
THIS FUCKER IS THE BIGGEST BULLSHITTER I HAVE COME ACROSS ON YOUTUBE!!!
mjknet 9 hours ago
Yeah. 2012 is the end of the world?!? Not! What is with al these people lol
StereoBlader 1 week ago
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THE HYPOCRISY OF NASA AND THE GOV`T DO THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT THE DEATHS OF 12 YS OLD GIRLS AROUND THE WORLD. I WONDER HOW MANY 12 YS OLD GIRLS THE AMERICAN GOV`T HAVE KILLED AND MADE BED RIDDEN IN IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN,LIBYA, SYRIA AND ALL THE TERRORIST FALSE FLAGS AROUND THE WORLD AND HOW MANY 12 YS OLD THEY ARE EXPECTING TO KILL IN IRAN AND OBAMA THERMONUCLEAR WAR IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.DID THE AMERICAN GOV`T EVER EXPLAIN THE REAL PURPOSE OF THOSE DEEP UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES AND FEMA CAMPS.
shoeupon67 2 weeks ago
is anyone else high here?
santinitellez 2 weeks ago
@santinitellez me lmao
213SEMPERFI 1 day ago
@santinitellez No, but I think it's time for a joint!
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Sometime in 1983 NASA created a problem claiming they saw some strange planetary body, beyond our solar system, possible heading towards us, now for the last 30 years they have been debunking the very same planetary body they claim to have seen, it just does NOT make sense, NASA A BUNCH OF FUCKING MAD SCIENTIST.
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I question the purpose of these NASA DEBUNKING VIDEOS , since nobody is really interested in them , NASA is determine to put them up over and over again. nothing will happen in 2012 ,move on NASA. surely you can put the taxpayers money to better use.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
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shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
THERE are hundreds if not thousands of Deep Underground Military Mases[ D .U .M. B.S ] and cities all over the world, which cost trillions and trillions of dollars to build enough to send all countries bankrupt, yet you never hear or see anyone showing them or talking about on any main stream media. Just like the FEMA camps and coffins not on main stream media, but they are all over YT thats strange. Then these people who call themselves scientist, saying don`t worry keep paying your taxes.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 Then you switch to typical conspiracy talk. You reference 'DUMBS', but again, like everything else, you don't prove it. Same with FEMA camps. You're quick to note how it's 'strange' that these subjects are on YouTube but not in the media. I don't find it strange at all--YT has absolutely nothing in terms of fact-checking or editing required to post a video. A YT video could assert, for example, that Abe Lincoln was never a US president, provide zero evidence, it still get posted.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat I really don`t know why some people put all their faith and trust in the Government ,NASA and Scientist. I believe most scientist are good people and mean well, but since most scientist work for the Government and are being paid by them, they have little or no choice but to carry out the orders of their Gov`t . If scientists want to tell the public about any catastrophic event , not being in the best interest of the Gov`t, certainly the Gov`t will not let them.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 It's not a matter of me denying anything. It's a matter of you not bringing evidence for your claims. You haven't shown scientists have little choice but carry out orders of the government. You haven't shown the government would not let them warn the public. You haven't shown DUMBS and FEMA 'death camps' exist.
Again, the problem is your lack of evidence for anything. You just sit there and make claims with nothing behind them.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat IF you are denying DUMBS and FEMA CONCENTRATION DEATHS CAMPS exist in America, it only shows what side you are on, what can i say the Government also denies it.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 PS: The claim of what 'side' I'm on is little more than hollow ad hominem thrown in lieu of valid evidence. It is a logical fallacy and completely invalid for proving any particular point.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat ALL the things you need evidence for you go and research them and if you no evidence then tell me.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 You made the claim, the burden of proof is yours. Your attempt to falsely shift that burden is a logical fallacy (again!) and wholly invalid.
You're just another 2012er with no evidence for your wild claims, arguing away with logical fallacies in an attempt to sound like you have a point. You don't.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat The next thing you will tell me is that 9/11 was not an inside job, it was done by an old man who lived in a cave somewhere in the mountains in Afghanistan.Or maybe it was done by some terrorist name AL-Qaeda, if you say AL-Qaeda you will be right,Al-Qaeda is code for United States government planned false flag operations. These false flag attacks have been carried out by the Air Branch of the CIA Special Operations Group.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 You're misrepresenting me. I said you failed to provide evidence for your claims. It's no different from your 9/11 claim, which was made with zero evidence. The problem here isn't me, it's you and your logical fallacies.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat I heard the American Government have employed hundreds of Debunkers, but i never really believe that. The government will only do that if they have something to hide, DO THEY ?
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 I have yet to see any evidence they do such a thing. You're just spamming out more silly ideas without evidence. The E word. Got any?
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat Most people making comments here have already done extensive research on the subject they are discussing.If you so desire to qualify yourself as a professional debunker you should do likewise and just don`t HIDE behind a computer and ask the commenters to present you with evidence.The commenters don`t work for you. DO EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON THE TOPICS YOU WISH TO DEBUNK, HAVE YOUR ARMS AND AMMUNITIONS READY TO PROVE TO THE COMMENTOR WHERE HE/SHE IS WRONG.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
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That was merely a long-winded way of trying to reverse the burden of proof. I don't have to prove they are wrong, THEY have to prove they are right. You're assuming they've backed their claim with valid evidence, and therefore the claim is right until proven wrong, which is silly.
As an aside, you are purposely misrepresenting my asking for evidence with having done no research. My channel comments have example after example of research I've done.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
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PS: You're just bouncing from argument to argument, hoping to find traction. However, finding a new way to state a logical fallacy does not make it any more valid. It's also worth noting you've abandoned your own claims long ago.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat One of the powers of any Business,Organization or Government is their SECRETS, if you reveal your business secret you destroy your business, if a Government disclose all their false flags and covert operations inside their country against its own citizens they would soon be out of office.When Government keep secrets they have an edge over their citizen. IF something catastrophic is to happen ending 2012 we will never know till the EVENT. In the main time keep paying your taxes.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 So, you just switched topic AGAIN. Now it's a general hypothesis about keeping secrets, but you don't show any issue, much less a 2012 issue, being kept from the public.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat ```if you find no evidence tell me```
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
---7.1 m earthquake in vanuatu 4 hours ago.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 So?
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
D Gov`t n Morrison concern are the public pay their TAXES .These people who call themselves scientist are babies in the drinking milk stages in respect to the knowledge of the universe. They tell you this is how it is today and tomorrow they come back and say no it is not so it is that way, and a few months later they come back again and say it is another way. There is no way of telling the future but by the past, everything that is was and everything that was will be.The future is in the past.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun..”- Eccl 1:9 NIV.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
MR MORISSON DID THE 12 YEARS OLD girl also told you she was worried about a world war 3 in 2012 . I THINK WE should be more worried about OBAMA than any in coming object from space, the only object will be coming from space is OBAMA NUCLEAR BOMB. MR MORISSON you should make a vid about the expected incoming nuclear bomb from space in 2012 and send it to the 12 years old girl.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
2012 is the end of a 26000 years cycle no one knows exactly what will happen except that we will be entering a 2000 years of photon light what that mean we just have to wait and see.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 26000 years refers to the precession of the equinoxes. It doesn't 'start' or 'end' on any given date. It takes 26000 years for the full circle. Where is the 'start' or 'end' of a circle? Is there any other kind of light than 'photon' light? Are you referring to the complete nonsense of a 'photon band'? Photons do not form into structures like 'bands'. Where are you getting this nonsense?
2012hoaxorg 3 weeks ago
HUMANS HAVE ALWAYS LIED TO ME~ I have never lied to myself. As for believing or not... I THINK PEOPLE FEEL SOMETHING IS HAPPENING~ & want a clear answer. BUT~ Mabe NO-ONE is lying on this topic? Mabe each personally believe what they have investigated and now speak about~to be true? NOT each PERCEPTION OF INVESTIGATION & WHICH PARTS THEY TEND TO LOOK FOR DURING TO VALIDATE THEIR OWN "GUT FEELING"~IS GOING TO SUIT YOURS?NASA ISN'T GONNA TELL US SHIT PEOPLE! The World is so overpopulated! COULDNT
JohnnyDPleadian 3 weeks ago
what about zombies
nbts5n2 3 weeks ago
NASA is not an agency known for TRUTH so even if he is speaking the TRUTH i certainly will not believe him, And who is so foolish as to ask him that is known NOT TO SPEAK THE TRUTH A QUESTION . I DON`T THINK ANYBODY EVER WRITES HIM.
shoeupon67 4 weeks ago
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Seriously? You wouldn't believe a person you know to be telling the truth? That says to me you're more wrapped up in the person and not so much the message.
In any case, the issue with 2012 comes down to evidence. Believe NASA or not, the 2012ers still have to prove their claims by backing them with valid evidence.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat 2012 HAS A lot to do with cycles 26000 years cycles 13000 years cycles, it also has to do with the transit if venus and also the solar system passing through the photon belt all happening in 2012. IN june 2004 there was a transit of venus 6 months later we had the indonesia earthquake and tsunami on the 26 of december 2004 on the 6 of june 2012 there will be another transit of venus 6 months later about 21 of december 2012 biggest EARTHQUAKE IS EXPECTED.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 'Predicting' earthquakes is meaningless. Every few days there is a significant earthquake on Earth. So to make the correlations you make, and show causations, would take a lot more than citing a few 'hits'. This would be best demonstrated with a peer reviewed paper in a respected journal, or you could sit down, write your own, and submit it. If you're so correct, you should get instant fame.
As for NASA, all you did was reiterate empty claims of them lying.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat 1/3 INDONESIAN 9.1 EARTHUAKE
“The earthquake that occurred on 12/26/2004 had very close ties with Venus transit on 6/8/2004. The Earth, Venus and the Sun were on one line, and furthermore this line pointed toward constellations Taurus ,Orion, Gemini, where the main gravitational tug from space, closest stars, and nebulas comes from.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 Your ideas regarding gravity are nonsense. There is no 'main gravitational tug' from those constellations. If there were, we would have an 'Orion Tide' or something like it. The gravity of all of the planets combined has about 2% of the effect on the earth that the 14-day perigee-to-apogee motion of the moon does.
2012hoaxorg 3 weeks ago
@2012hoaxorg `` Your ideas regarding gravity are nonsense `` 6 months after the transit of venus [6/6/2004] we had the biggest earthquake and tsunami in indonesia [26/12/2004] NOTE- The the indonesia earthquake was predicted 3 months before it happen. Likewise the next and last transit of venus for this century will be 6/6/2012 the next biggest earthquake for this century is predicted to be along the west coast california area about 6 months after about 21/12/2012.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 Uh huh... and what astronomical event caused the 1961 Chile quake, since the previous transit was in 1884?
2012hoaxorg 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 You also haven't addressed my point. If gravity is the culprit, then why don't earthquakes and volcanoes follow a 14 day or 28 day pattern? After all, the gravity of the sun and moon combine on the full moon and new moon to cause spring tides, and the tidal effect of the moon varies by 25% over 28 days as it moves from perigee to apogee and back. Why don't we see one or both of these patterns?
2012hoaxorg 3 weeks ago
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@2012hoaxorg NOTE--There appears to be a 6 month interlude between the Venus transit and major earthquakes, volcanoes and/or tsunamis.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 a six month interlude? In other words, you are so desperate to tie anything to the transit that you're willing to go out six months? I suggest you look up 'post hoc, ergo propter hoc'. Its a fallacy of logic. You seem to use it a lot.
2012hoaxorg 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat There is no credibility in NASA someone who is known to lie for so long , no one will want to believe anything they say. TRUTH OR LIE YOU RUN FROM THEM.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat 2/3 “The Earth’s axis is tilted toward those constellations during the present era, and during that time there was also grouped the inner planets. Additionally, the Moon was (end of spring, beginning of summer) was in its highest position in the sky, so its tidal forces were strongest. During the Indonesian earthquake and tsunami Venus was again in the identical position 7 months before.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat 3/3 VOLCANO “There was similar catastrophe on 8/26/1883, what happened Less than 9 months after Venus transit from 12.6.1882, when Krakatoa volcano erupted, accompanied with earthquakes, tsunami killing 10000 people died.
There appears to be a 6 month interlude between the Venus transit and major earthquakes, volcanoes and/or tsunamis.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 What you just did was substantially weaken your case. First it was earthquakes, now it is earthquakes, volcanos, and tsunamis. The more supposed effects you list, the more the correlation becomes irrelevant. The more effects you consider to be validation of your idea, the less meaningful it becomes. You've also opened your acceptance window to 9 MONTHS, which is a total of a YEAR AND A HALF when counted on either side. That's ridiculous. (continued)
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 Your case also uses cherry picking. If Venus is the big issue here, it is an effect that traces back BILLIONS OF YEARS. Yet you have only a smattering of examples, with little or not attempt to check negative events and no sourcing.
Further, given this long history of Venus transits, you haven't addressed why 2012 is somehow magical.
As an counter example, every day in my life that I've sneezed, there has been an earthquake. Do you think my sneezes cause earthquakes?
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
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@ThreeFangCat I don`t know what will happen in December 2012, I will just keep an open mind, anything is possible we are new to this universe. IT only takes one large solar flare to finish us off or a few nuclear bombs. IF real disaster is expected in 2012 don`t expect GOVERNMENT to tell us. And if nothing will happen they will make us feel something will, so we will never know till the EVENT. Since so many cycles seems to be peaking in December 2012 anything is possible.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat GOVERNMENT inside job is always possible.IF NO big natural disaster happen The GOVERNMENT CAN always create one and you know they are good at that, considering how they want to reduce the world population. IMAGINE OBAMA IS begging for a world war 3 . SO either way we are doomed.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat [ As an counter example, every day in my life that I've sneezed, there has been an earthquake. Do you think my sneezes cause earthquakes? ``] I don`t mean small earthquakes , I mean big ones , like what happen in japan and indonesia the next big one is expected in california , and it will be the biggest of the big for 2012.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 My example was simply illustrating the fallacy of assuming causation is automatically proved by correlation. In your case, when you expand the time frame to as much as year and a half, and then add in other disasters when you don't get the hits you want, it pretty much becomes completely irrelevant. You're just cherry-picking.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 Hm... I happen to live in California, and while we *always* expect an earthquake, I seem to have missed the news about the "next big one" here... unless you mean the nonsense posted to YouTube by the people who think that planetary alignments (or tiny comets) can cause earthquakes.
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@2012hoaxorg Hm... I happen to live in California, and while we *always* expect an earthquake, I seem to have missed the news about the "next big one```--- -IF YOUR GOVERNMENT KNOWS YOU THINK IT WILL BE WISE FOR THEM TO TELL YOU. IF I AM THE GOVERNMENT I WILL NOT TELL YOU , WHO WILL PAY MY TAX.? Always remember to the Government you are only a slave #765483456. Check your birth certificate you were given that # the day you were born.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 so, who exactly is "expecting the next big one" here? You and your buddies?
2012hoaxorg 3 weeks ago
@2012hoaxorg ````There are always catastrophic events on the earth,````------IF there are astronomical events and planetary alignments that cause earthquakes, the TRANSIT OF VENUS is just one of them. The only difference with the`` Transit of Venus `` is the predictability of time, location and magnitude.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 No, you haven't proven the transit of Venus is meaningful at all. You're cherry picking. You have a HUGE acceptance window. You're accepting multiple types of disasters as validation. Your mechanism is, at best, laughable. And you have presented no historical rundown for an effect that should have been going on for billions of years. You don't have statistical analysis to show significance.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat 1/2 Venus transits are rare, and tend to come in pairs. The current pair occur during 2004 and 2012. The previous pair occurred back in 1874 and 1882, then 1761 and 1769, and so on back through history. Venus is our nearest neighbour, and during this transit, or conjunction with the Sun, is only about 26 million miles away from the Earth. I present here an edited version of Pavel's explanation of his theory:
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@ThreeFangCat 2/3 The Earth's axis is tilted toward those constellations during the present era, and during that time there was also grouped the inner planets. Additionally, the Moon was (end of spring, beginning of summer) was in its highest position in the sky, so its tidal forces were strongest. During the Indonesian earthquake and tsunami Venus was again in the identical position 7 months before.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 with every post you are showing that you are completely ignorant of gravity.
Please show us WITH THE MATH how the moon being higher in the sky causes its tidal forces to be the strongest. Please also show us WITH THE MATH what the tidal forces on the earth from the planet Venus are.
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shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat 3/3There was similar catastrophe on 8/26/1883, what happened Less than 9 months after Venus transit from 12.6.1882, when Krakatoa volcano erupted, accompanied with earthquakes, tsunami killing 10000 people died.
"Such similar super catastrophe had happened in 416A.D. Again, according my calculations, within 1 year of a Venus transit!"
The next transit will be June 6, 2012. So what will happen then?
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 You're trying to draw grand conclusions from a minute sampling. There is still no clear reason given why 2012 is so important. As I have noted, Venus transits have been going on for billions of years.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat 2012 is also the year we may have a Global Economic Collapse, World War 3 and a Great Depression.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
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@shoeupon67 "2012 is also the year we may have a Global Economic Collapse, World War 3 and a Great Depression."...We "may have" any or all of those things in 2013.Or we "may have" them in 2014,or 2020,or 2056.Or we might not have them at all.Don't you see how the term "may have" makes your assertion meaningless?
Fordham1969 3 weeks ago in playlist Liked videos
@shoeupon67 The point I was trying to make about your acceptance window is that it is so wide any conclusions drawn from it are irrelevant. It doesn't matter how rare the Venus transit itself is. We have, on planet Earth, an average of 1 earthquake of 8+ magnitude every year. Add in Volcanos, Tsunamis and whatever else, and you can make the 'prediction' of a disaster around AND DATE 'come true' REGARDLESS OF WHEN IT OCCURS. That's how the 'theory' is bullshit.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat @ThreeFangCat [ There is still no clear reason given why 2012 is so impor] 2012 is very important because a number of cycles seems to be ending and beginning in 2012 eg [1] 2012 is the beginning of a 2000 years light journey through the photon belt.[ [2] 2012 is the end of a 12000 years of a dark age [3] 2012 is the end of the 5th age,[4]end of the 4th world.[5]end of the modern world [6].end of the last generation.[7] 2012 is the year of the pole shift.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 You need to prove this 'photon belt' exists and this 'pole shift' is coming. You need to define what kind of pole shift you mean, since it's not a real science term but rather an ill-defined pseudoscientific term. You did neither. And I don't particularly care about New Age created Dark Ages or 5th ages, predictions of end of modern world or last generation which you cannot prove.
So all you have is weak correlations and guesswork. Poorly done.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat What is the matter with you, I have spent 2 hours getting those informations and that is what you have to say.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 Its pretty clear what the problem with it is. You have no evidence.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
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@ThreeFangCat ````` Its pretty clear what the problem with it is. You have no evidence.`````If there are no Documented Hard Evidences to support my claims then i will base my claims on my own personal feelings and experiences, and there can be no stronger proof than your own personal experience, and i am not even a religious person and i am feeling change. I believe we are getting rid of the old and moving into the new. If I am wrong then we are moving from bad to worst.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 You may have spent 2 hours,but you spent them getting "informations" without any scientific merit whatsoever.Simply google "photon belt" and you'll find how it's complete nonsense and that people have been making predictions about it affecting Earth for many years.Why should anyone believe that this "photon belt" should have any impact on us this year when all the past predictions for it have failed?And more specifically,why do you believe it?
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@Fordham1969 I believe in the Photon Belt of 2000 years of light for the simple reason i feel much lighter and different these days, I feel something is happening you cannot bring in the new until you first get rid of the old. Something very bad will happen to this planet and then something very good. The end of the old in 2012 and the beginning of the new after. This if from my own personal feeling and prediction.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 When it comes to making claims on physical reality, your feelings not evidence. It's really that simple. Instead of cut and pasting from some 'theory' you found on the internet, you could have saved a lot of time by being honest from the get-go.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat ```` Instead of cut and pasting from some 'theory' you found on the internet, ```` This only shows i am not the only person believes that theory. Great minds think alike.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 Whether someone else believes it or not is not the issue here. The point was your feelings are not evidence.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat All the evidences are in the past, why do you think they have ARCHAEOLOGIST and HISTORIAN what do they look for, not EVIDENCE as I said the evidence of the future is in the evidence of the past.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 Talking about vague 'evidences' is irrelevant. You've presented nothing except a broken 'theory' you copied from someone else, a series of claims with considerable circular logic, 'evidences' with absolutely no reference and your feelings which don't matter a whit when it comes to physical reality.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFang What I think you should do is work with the people that make comments towards finding the truth or near the truth as possible as to what may happen in 2012 so we can all be forewarned n forearmed instead you just seems to be knocking every body who has a different view from you.You also seem to have a lot of faith in todays scientist who were born yesterday, and refused to believe in the knowledge and w/dom of the people who were living thousand n t/sand of years ago.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 All you're doing at this point is trying to turn the conversation to whether your claims have been backed with valid evidence to a discussion about me. I'm not the issue here, whether there is a valid 2012 claim is.
Your discussion has been largely pseudoscientific. When I apply scientific demands to it, it falls apart and suddenly you hop on the anti-science bandwagon. You want to say those who lived a long time ago had special wisdom, yet you don't prove that, either.
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 Followup note: Quoting end of modern world and end of the last generation as proof for your claims which supposed CAUSE these things is a form of circular logic and a clear logical fallacy.
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@ThreeFangCat [con`t] [8] 2012 is the end date of the popular mayan calender, [9] 2012 is the end of a 26000 years orbit cycle through a section of the galaxy, and [10] of a 5125 years cycle.
shoeupon67 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 And that is one very big 'if'. Astronomical events are common. So are various catastrophic events (earthquakes, volcanoes, etc). Since both are common, maybe we should look to see if earthquakes cause transits?
2012hoaxorg 3 weeks ago
@shoeupon67 There are always catastrophic events on the earth, so you can easily point to something and say "look, this [earthquake/volcano/landslide/whatever] happened after that [transit/eclipse/supernova], therefore it was caused by it!".
But just because B followed A doesn't mean that A caused B. 100% of serial killers consumed dihydrogen monoxide in the 48 hours before their crimes. Did the dihydrogen monoxide cause them to kill?
2012hoaxorg 3 weeks ago
If it isn't Nibiru~that caused our previous "pole shifts"...what did? I FEEL THERE IS GOING TO BE A POLE SHIFT OR SOME KIND OF MASS INSTINCTION~ What caused the previous ones is my question as I feel Nibiru is BS too~I THINK? HELL I KNOW SOMETHINGS COMING IN THE NEXT 10 years... I feel the earths vibration rising~ AND I KNOW I FEEL THIS STRONG! SO THEY ARE INCREASING~ It has affected me terribly!
JohnnyDPleadian 1 month ago
@JohnnyDPleadian
I would agree that 'something' is coming in the next 10 years, but only insofar that the prediction is so terribly vague it's meaningless. As for a pole shift, the term is vague and I don't know if you mean rotational, magnetic, or crustal shift. 2012ers waffle between these.
It comes down to evidence, not feelings. People were 'feeling' destruction was coming in 2003, with many of the same claims. What happened?
ThreeFangCat 3 weeks ago
@ThreeFangCat ~what happened at that time was the vibration, ring, or panic key not feeling but, noise, feeling, and visual changing correspondence with this vibration~ increased more. ~ JUST SENSE DEC 2011 has it been increasing at such a scarily almost UN-TOLERABLE RATE SO QUICKLY! As for which kind~ I would not know as I have not studied our previous "Pole Shifts"...ONLY THAT WE HAVE HAD THEM? EVERYONE AGREES ON THAT!
JohnnyDPleadian 3 weeks ago
@JohnnyDPleadian Your feelings are really quite irrelevant for establishing physical reality. I notice you didn't answer my question about 2003, particularly considering your YouTube identity, you should be particularly aware of that, right?
So, you are talking about pole shifts, implying causation through loaded questions, and yet you don't know what one is? But you're sure we have had them. How do you know, if you have no idea what they are? That's just silly.
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Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
THEY SPOTTED NIBIRU IN 1983 IT WAS ON THE NEWS BUT GOT INSTANTLY TAKEN OFF THE AIR THIS GUY IS A CLOWN
bootsownsyou 1 month ago
@bootsownsyou Oh, 'they' spotted this fantasy Nibiru in 1983? Based on what source, perhaps the Washington Post? Let me know.
ThreeFangCat 1 month ago
This man is coming from a true scientific perspective which i appreciate. His intentions speak more so than any info provided by this video. However, Science is a funny thing. After all SCIENCE said the earth was flat in early civilizations of man. Look at the models proposed over the centuries of atoms and how they were composed from Thompson to Rutherford. The term science in itself is a play on words and a fallacy; and, more importantly a play on understanding and the human mind to reason.
XGod0 1 month ago
@XGod0 I find it ironic you attempt to impeach evidence-based science using a computer, which required proficiency in quite a few scientific principles to make possible. I'm going to further guess that isn't the only thing you take advantage of the advances of science.
The point is this: Science works.
ThreeFangCat 1 month ago
@ThreeFangCat So the advancements in science work? I guess one would have to define work (and by the way your example is an absolute opposite and polar extreme for that matter, that deals with definite tangible data) Does it work when medical laboratories release ground-breaking treatments and medicine that do help cure or treat the immediate ailment but then however have severe and in most cases much less desirable outcomes than what the original infliction sustained? You know what the FDA is?
XGod0 1 month ago
@ThreeFangCat I never said mathematics and it's fundamental concepts are flawed, which is more of the direction your going with computer technology and the systems they operate on. Science try's to get its hands in everyone's problems to provide pristine disclosure when In all reality the margin of advancement versus fuck ups and set backs really isn't that extraordinary and relatively even. Something based on probability with a 50/50 chance i doubt either of us would take. At least, w/ life
XGod0 1 month ago
@XGod0 I was actually referring to the science behind computers, such as the behavior of electricity. (Please don't put words in my mouth.) And yet, you use one quite readily. And I'm guessing you benefit from science is a myriad of other ways as well.
What science has let humanity do is learn. In this learning process, we have discovered previous ideas are wrong, and thus discarded. You attempt to ridicule failures to make your false point.
I dare you to live without scientific achievements.
ThreeFangCat 1 month ago
@ThreeFangCat Your last statement was absolutely arbitrary. You realize subatomic particles and the physics that govern it are an audacious example of scientific rigidity. Since when was Quantum physics set in stone? The word "interpretation" in itself shouldn't find itself in any scientific scholars vernacular because the definition of interpretation opens discrepancies in provided data from varying sources on the same subject. That in itself contradicts sciences livelihood. 500 spaces blows.
XGod0 1 month ago
@XGod0 Allow me to restate since you didn't understand: I dare you to live without the technological advances derived from scientific methodology. If it's so bad, surely you can do without.
But, instead, you sit there typing on your computer. Pontificate all you want, actions speak louder than words.
ThreeFangCat 1 month ago
@ThreeFangCat You mean reiterate? You've worked in circles with your argument this entire time. I thought it was a fair intellectual debate not some egotistical pride demo that'll never be heard for anyway. its a youtube vid. At this point its far to obvious your simply into uber trolling. Either that or your free hand must be completely inundated in somatic cells. Your rhetoric is incredibly poor and i will not carry on this charade any longer. I never said this world had NO place for science
XGod0 1 month ago
@XGod0 That was little more than ad hominem.
My point was not you were claiming the world had no place for science. It was that you take advantage of scientific findings on a regular basis, yet you are so quick to be critical of it.
ThreeFangCat 1 month ago
Even the millions of still practicing Mayan descendants know that their Mayan calandar holds no significance. They said it means nothing, and that the Mayan long count calendar ends on Dec. 21 2012 and it just goes into the next baktun, just like how our calendars go into the next year on Jan. 1st. It means nothing.
PanzerChrist80 1 month ago
Sounds to me Vivos is profiting off of peoples stupidity. Just like all the rest of these organized doomsday theorists. Buy info, buy t shirts, buy my underground bunkers. I'm going to make Doomsday 2012 collectors plates and bumperstickers.. so i can get on this huge money making scam. This is exactly like a religion.. false claims only to scare the mindless into coughing up their money to save them from something thats not even going to happen.
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Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
No evidence of a pole shift???? what about the the north and south poles, ice caps melting? HELLO! wakey wakey! peace & best wishes
Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
@Theoriginaljkarma Well, what about them? Do you have anything more specific than hand waving and 'wakey wakey'? Because, that's not really very convincing of any particular point.
ThreeFangCat 1 month ago
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@ThreeFangCat, well, I was gonna write, anybody who cant understand that the ice caps are melting in front of our eyes is either blind, def & dumb or completely Ignorant but Hello, wakey wakey seemed much more fun.
& Nope, I'm just stating the obvious. dont mean any harm, but David Morrison says there is no evidence of a pole shift, when infact the ice caps are indeed melting & thats where the poles are atm. not trying to convince anything, PeAce & goodluck
Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
@Theoriginaljkarma So, polar ice caps melting is evidence of a vague 'pole shift' which isn't even clearly defined, much less how that melts polar ice caps? Do you have any actual science behind this?
As far as you not trying to 'convince anything': yes you are.
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Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
@ThreeFangcat Just the 5 senses we was born with. Thanks
Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
@Theoriginaljkarma So, the answer is NO, you don't have any actual science behind your claim. Just frightened hand waving about an ill-defined 'pole shift'.
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@ThreeFangCat who gave you the right to ANSWER for some body else? infact your telling Lies.
I dont like to make conversation with that sort of person.
your the kinda person who would believe the world is flat! because you havent got the understanding that was god given. you cant even fully understand the word under stand. next time ! speak for yourself, if it makes you feel better. peAce
Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
@Theoriginaljkarma
(1) If you think I have lied, feel free to prove it.
(2) I think the world is round because that is what the evidence-based science concludes.
(3) I don't care if you like talking to me.
(4) You never backed your claim with evidence, thus it is invalid.
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@ThreeFangCat Thanks for letting me know I can feel free, Watch your manners before you speak for somebody else! Who Gave you the right to answer for me? You answer '' NO '' For me & tell me im frightened.
I am by no means frightened! neither is my hand waving & YES I do
scientific fact: 1 The ice caps are melting & scientific fact: 2 thats where the poles are.
This is evidence of a pole shift.
This is not evidence it will harm us.
Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
@Theoriginaljkarma No. You still have nothing backing the two are related events, nor proof of 'pole shift', whatever that is. Correlation does not imply causation.
ThreeFangCat 1 month ago
@Theoriginaljkarma As a side note, I didn't seriously think you were taking the hand waving comment as more than a figure of speech. Wow.
ThreeFangCat 1 month ago
@ThreeFangCat enlightment happens to us all eventually
Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
@Theoriginaljkarma I would hope people with 'enlightment' would know correlation does not imply causation.
ThreeFangCat 1 month ago
@ThreeFangCat, David morrison says there is no evidence.
Ive shown there is evidance.
nobody mentioned correlation for causation till now. i rest my case
Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
@Theoriginaljkarma
For an observation to be evidence of a claim, it has to actually support said claim. The reason you have no evidence is you haven't gone beyond mere correlation. Your argument suffers from the logical fallacy, "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc" or "Affirming the consequent." This is what I mean by correlation does not imply causation. The fact I haven't used that particular wording until now doesn't make it any less true.
ThreeFangCat 1 month ago
@ThreeFangCat your truth, my truth & the real truth maybe very different
Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
@Theoriginaljkarma What you are referring to is subjective truths, not objective facts. Faith-based claims deal primarily with the former, science with the latter. In that way, whether an observation is valid evidence for a claim is not a matter of subjective truth. I think the problem is you don't personally expect objective fact, and that is fine. Just don't represent it as such.
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Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
@Theoriginaljkarma All I was saying is that if you want to believe things subjectively, that is fine. However, claiming them as objective isn't valid. At the bare minimum, you'll may get questions about what you're saying.
I have no idea how you are attempting to invoke 'correlation for causation'. I'm not sure you understand the idea I was trying to communicate in the first place.
ThreeFangCat 1 month ago
@ThreeFangCat kool, good chating with you, Thanks
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Theoriginaljkarma 1 month ago
man dominates land, controls food/water/resources. Installs a social system. Places value on an arbitrary conduit for trading (labor/slave) purposes. All social designs have been based on this premise. Stop normalizing mass ownership. Abolish central powers. Learn to self sustain. Once you don't need them, they will stop lying to you because there is no benefit. I advise you fear a more realistic threat to waste your time on.
anonplanz 1 month ago
People are soo funny. Humans will be on this planet for a long time. That means until we go extinct just like the 99% of all life that has ever lived has. Whenever that will be. tens of thousands of years Im sure.
northoforacle 2 months ago
Don't worry about Nibiru?, worry about a secret military technology that can provoke earth quakes? And financial manipulators that can grow or crush counties? In the last statement I do believe.
The world is in paranoia. We don't trust each other any more, and with good reason.
MAXIESONIC 2 months ago
ttp://wakenews.net/Nibiru_Final_Update.pdf
read the pdf and i want know why they close the buzz room
Markus2976 2 months ago
@Markus2976 Ya, quoting a 'paper' from God knows who that right off claims gravity isn't real. I've seen it before. You should try getting science paper from professional journals, where the peer review process vets out this sort of garbage.
ThreeFangCat 2 months ago
All that is Holy on this Earth is David Morrison and NASA as it looks človek. Some yogis travel in galaxy a long time before a small step for man. Life in space and people on Earth? ()14? E? KE? Chi? Quadra? Prana?,... Free will on atOmIc lEVEl?
KLMNOQPiPan 3 months ago
Lets see, you work for the government, get paid by the government, so you speak for the government.Our government lies about EVERYTHING. Since you speak for them it could be deducted that you lie for them as well. Whats with all the underground bases being built?All the food being stored? Whats with all the seeds being preserved in seed vaults around the world? DNA of animals?Whats with the wars to gain oil reserves from oil rich nations?It seems your theory NASA, doesn't hold water.Peace.
chewycandy666 3 months ago
@chewycandy666 So you look the fact that NASA was right on Elenin and the nutters were wrong straight in the eye and declare NASA lied. Asking loaded questions doesn't change what happened.
ThreeFangCat 2 months ago
@ThreeFangCat Unless you are staring at the sky with the right equipment you will also have to take their word for it that there is nothing else around that may hit. For all we know Elenin was the blue star and the red star is right behind it. They certainly wouldn't want the public to know this giving that anarchy would certainly be declared in the face of enilation.There are way too many secrets about our government that have yet to be revealed.Certainly NASA has a few.Peace.
chewycandy666 2 months ago
@chewycandy666 You miss the point entirely. Nutters made predictions about Elenin, how doom was upon us. And then... nothing happened. And yet, you act as if it is NASA that lies, based on same old unfounded claims. It's the same freaking routine. It wasn't true before Elenin fizzled, and unless solid evidence comes out, there's no reason to assume the claims to be any better this time around.
You need a new story. You need evidence. You have neither.
ThreeFangCat 2 months ago
@ThreeFangCat NASA has lied in the past about many things. Do you actually think the public knows everything they've discovered? Perhaps they didn't lie about Elenin but they certainly have secrets.I'm not a doomsayer but I have my doubts that all NASA has said about what they know and don't know, it is questionable at the very least.Believing a government agency has no merit at all these days. To simply say "the gov said so, so it must be true" is old and weak. I don't buy it at all. Peace.
chewycandy666 2 months ago
@chewycandy666 So, even though we can conclusively prove they were right about Elenin and the nutters lied, you're going to continue to fly in the face of reality and preach that NASA lies as a sort of justification for a myriad of accusations. Meanwhile, my mention of the word 'evidence' falls on deaf ears.
Put simply, you assume the worst with no evidence, and act as if it is rational, even when pointed out the nutters lied and NASA told the truth.
ThreeFangCat 2 months ago
@chewycandy666 The *greater* point here is WHY the nutters failed. They didn't have evidence. It was perfectly clear they were going to fail in their fantasy before the date ever came along. I was there, arguing how evidence was important, how without it, there is no basis for a claim. So when I see people acting the same way, I can pretty much guess their claims will fare no better when faced with reality.
ThreeFangCat 2 months ago
On Friday November 6th at 2132 UT (16:32/ 4:32PM EST) asteroid 2009 VA barely missed Earth when it flew just 14,000 km above the EARTH. 2009 VA was discovered just 15 hours before closest approach by astronomers working at the Catalina Sky Survey.IT PASSED BETWEEN THE MOON AND EARTH.
TheAsskickyoulater 3 months ago
all i want to say is leave me alone you no who i am talking to i wont tolerate this wave abuse satelite abuse or any kind anymore leave to alone and i mean it
blackswan833 3 months ago
@comicman34 thanks man, i am glad you see it my way
bobcatallstar7 3 months ago
I't is now visible.. All signs!!!
raquelreggie 3 months ago
There are shelves of books behind me, which means I'm smart :) You can trust me:)
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@ridddick7394 ;=)
KLMNOQPiPan 3 months ago
@ridddick7394 Yes well he has most likely read them all. If he didn't write a few of them himself. I attended a speach David Morrison gave here in the county I live in Brevard County,Florida. And I found it very insightful and stimulating.
Premiess80 2 months ago
@ridddick7394 google Davis Morrison if u believie this is just a scammer-.-
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What's happened with Comet Elenin. Its October the 28/10/2011 I haven't heard anything about it. No media Coverage No Youtube Coverage. The 25/9/2011 was the big thing on Youtube. And now nothing no update on Comet Elenin or the 3 days of Darkness or doomsday. can someone tell me please.
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