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  • Wow, In the past, I primarily looked at the rust belt for abandoned.

    Your in FLA. I'm amazed.

    It is much worse in cold regions, llke Detroit. But I see now that the weather is the predictor for whether a corporation decides to move to China.

  • We need to cut taxes for the rich, more deregulation, break more unions, cut the corporate tax rate to zero, give more tax breaks to corporations that off shore good paying jobs. Let do some more of the things that got us here.

  • @rickbar123 Oh sure make Corporate America even stronger so they can pay Third World wages at home instead of overseas, and keep more people poor. They already run things in Washington, I don't think they need any more handouts.

  • This is not your father's deindustrialization (Japan and the Rust Belt!)

  • I know a lot of people lose their jobs, but maybe it's a blessing in disguise. Industrial progress has also polluted our waters and our air. Maybe its time that people go back to being craftsmen and open up their own small businesses. Stop buying Nike shoes. Make your own! Be hell of a lot cheaper.

  • @Cstrife234 but not nearly as good quality as a coroporation can make. the coopertive efforts of thousands of investors / workers makes somthing a small biz cannot in a million years quality wise.

  • @circusboy90210 Who cares? Do we want quantity, or quality? Do we want stuff that will break just after the warantee is up, or do we want stuff that lasts 30 years? I chose the latter. I'd rather buy from ma and pa and small buisnesses. I don't give a shit about this bullshit mafia economy.

  • @Cstrife234 dsigned oboslence creates more jobs besides most people want a new model after 4 years or whenever the newest thing is out there so there is no reason to have cars or other things that last that long anymore. besides the level of technology of most mom & pop shops is low, I say this on the manufacturing side but retail I do prefer mom & pop. the real mafia however controls more society's & governments than you could concieve. your world view is very narrow & stifled.

  • That's what happens you elected President from Nixon to Obama and Congress from Nixon to Obama. Too bad the 1994 to 2006 Republican Congress failed to reduce or abolish the Corporate and Individual Income tax system instead for 3 years putting Clinton on trial.

  • [sarcasm on] If the people who worked at these industrial plants would have worked for a dollar a day, they could compete with ChiCom slave labor. Then these businesses would still be open.[sarcasm off]

    Once globalization and corporate greed is done raping this country and burning it to the ground we'll realize what a tragic mistake it was. Of course then it will be too late. At that point America will be destroyed.

  • Companies are running because we let the enviromentalists take over with the new green thing. This caused new and expensive regulation to be put down on are resource producing industry.

    This in turn caused resource producers to shut down or move away. The cascading effect followed, now with material doubling in cost are products got expensive, fueled by are lust for more then we can handle caused housing to become overly inflated. you want are industry back, open are resources and cut the regs

  • @mythril4

    Regs are but a small indirect cost when compared to labor, which is the largest direct expense for any business. If you're looking for a reason why all of America is starting to look like Detroit, look no further than NAFTA, GATT, and the WTO. This NWO globalist insanity, architected by Wall Street criminals, has dismantled our industrial base, produced massive unemployment, and will soon, unless the madness is stopped and reversed (not likely) turn America into a third world nation.

  • @DeathNeedsTime

    I will agree with that as well, they are a very big part of are demise.

    I don't think it is to late, we the people just need to take are country back from the ones who intend to infringe on our rights as citizens.

  • ok, you can go to many places in the USA and find businesses that are gone. I understand where your coming from. How many of them moved to better buildings in cheaper states to produce products.

    I bet you have no idea. or Moved to better or more modern buildings. Not just to overseas.

  • I didn't cherry pick the properties I shot in this video. Most of the businesses have completely gone out of business.

    This can be proven by the amount of commercial and industrial real estate vacancies throughout Pinellas county.

    I encourage you to go there and see it for yourself.

    Thanks for watching.

    Take care,

    John

  • Take a look in other states i encourage you. You will see its tough all over and there is no conspiracy, only hard times.

    Its sad we I seen this summer traveling.

  • @Tapps47

    The area he recorded has many empty buildings. You can't throw a rock in that area without hitting a for lease and/or for sale sign. 

  • That place looks like an Urban Explorer's paradise if that is your forte

  • I would think that storage places would see business booming with all the foreclosures. I read somewhere that the America's mafia godfather Rockefeller stated in the 1960's that de-industrialization was planned for America. This has been planned for a long time.

  • thanks. maybe those places will be used again to help in manufacturing some of American's next great ideas and inventions.

  • I would not swear to it but, that looks like the Graybar electrical distributor at the beginning of the video. I once lived in Palm Harbor.

  • nice video john, but the gov have raised tariffs on overseas stuff so will see if that brings back american companys.

  • I think you'll see a lot of ordinary people start manufacturing things out of their homes or garages. This boom would give a whole new meaning to the term cottage industry.

    Thanks for watching and take care.

    -John

  • I think you are very right about the new

    "cottage industries."  If I had any skills, I'd be using them right here.

  • I haven't been to Tampa/St.Pete area since the early 90's. It was a boom town then. I thought of relocating there, instead moved to Colorado. What are we going to do to turn this around? Nice report John

  • Thanks for your post. We'll have to go back to an agriculturally based economy. A great book on the subject is Gaia's Garden, it's all about permaculture, I highly recommend getting the book.

    Thanks for watching and take care. -John

  • Thanks John, I will check out that book "Gaia's Garden". You are getting good at your reporting.

    Mike

  • Also, read my article about wild edibles in the video info section. It's a great piece I wrote a few months back. Thanks for watching and take care. -John

  • I've got Euell Gibbons great series of "Stalking..." books from the 70's. But I didn't hear of permaculture until visiting here...I'll check out that book,thanks.

  • Weird how all the places have security fences around them. What, do they have armed guards at every door too? What's it say about a nation when everything has to be behind barbed wire fences? Going to work is like going to jail I guess. Fun wow.

  • @perfectibilisti: I agree, very sad. I think it has to do with our legal system & the out of control law suits more than anything else though.

    People who want to help others by letting them stay on their property cannot because of liability

    I was in Sam's club a couple of years ago. They had a bunch of hams that were close to expiring. I asked the butcher if they just donate them to shelters & he said no, they cannot donate them because someone sued them, so they have to throw them away.

  • Hello John , I could show you the exact same situation in N.C. At one time we were the textile center of the world and a manufacturing giant . Now our manufacturing base had been raped ! Empty building EVERYWHERE ! Of course, we all know this distruction has been done by our government and the powers that be BEHIND our gov. over a long period of time to FORCE the Sheeple of America to submit to a One World Gov. WE ARE ALMOST READY TO COLLAPSE ! No comeback of any kind until America DIES, SAD !

  • The commercial real estate bubble is larger than the home market bubble. It has yet to burst fully.

    Be prepared for this will be one of the final coffin nails prior to massive and prolonged unemployment. Soup kitchens, breadlines and tent cities are the new American destiny.

  • I agree with all your points. We definitely live in scary times! -John

  • There is a rather large nationwide group of non-partisan folks from every state you may wish to check out called the Oath Keepers whom are strictly constitutionalists and will protect the rights and freedoms of the citizens. They are comprised of military folks former and present, police, firemen, civil servants and civilians. I encourage anyone who cares about their freedoms to check them out online.

  • Thanks for the information.

  • Here are my 2 bits of concern. America receives 82% of it's foriegn oil and gas from Canada. Here is how America gets a barrel of oil at $14 US dollars. Back in the 70's liberial government natiolized the oil companies--cost 427 billion. Called Petro Canada. here is were the scam kicks in-freetrade is brought in. No duty. petro ca. is flipped 100% USA ownership-5cents to dollar. GSTax was brought in2 pay debt. Most of the other foriegn oil is from Venesvillia. Then why is pirate USi in Iraq

  • Correction should be $27 billion

  • Thanks yet again for another good video. Some of the last couple of places looked familiar. Looks like you were on some of the side streets off of Hercules in Clearwater? I know there's definitely a lot of industrial property there -- more emptying out each month.

  • One interesting place is near Countryside and 19 where DogWaters Cafe used to be. A builder bought the property a few years back but never began preparing the land for any building. There's a golf course on the property that was until recently completely overgrown. It looked like a jungle before they finally cut back the weeds and brush.

  • There's a lot of weird properties around that have sat vacant for years.

    For example, on 19 and Enterprise there used to be a tex mex place (Rio Bravo)? Since it closed down 10 years ago, the building sat empty. Someone bought it, completely gutted and renovated it and they are supposed to open an Italian restaurant called Pssghetti's. But they've been working on the place for 2-3 years! I think there must be some funding issues involved, and I fear they will not last long once they open.

  • I grew up in Pinellas in the 60's; graduated from Pinellas Voc-Tech (now PTEC). Jobs back then were plentiful between NASA contractors, Honeywell, Sperry, etc. Those were the good times and we didn't know it.

    Now with hyperinflation driving oil back to $100/bbl, the tourism business is going to really hurt for Florida.

    Keep the vids comin' johnu78. Great job.

  • Thank you for watching!

    Take care,

    John

  • The UK had this on steroids in the 1980s,but none of those jobs ever came back,prepare for jobs in healthcare!

  • thank international jewish business ideas of free trade!

  • The American major problem is property tax rates are high, Example, residential--3.5% commericial 10.50% Industrial 15% of the assessed value.Take the window once manufacture. Property assessed at $3,000,000 equals $450,000 taxes per year. What sinkhole does the money go to--welfare and blotted numbers ofmunicipal staff :^/

    Cure--? another banana republick

  • With Obama and his tax tax tax plans you will see many more vacant companies around...and over seas will flourish even more! They are waiting, and know it will happen.

  • look at the bright side, the criminal cult of scientology's 'Land Base' on Fort Harrison ave in Clearwater has shrunk enough that they've had to lighten up sending thugs, hit men and whores after those who expose them....go look at their 5 story tall, one block square 'super power building'.. never finished, one corner left open to the sea gulls who have fiilled it with bird sh*t.... thats been impressive.

  • Don't let them kick you out of your homes- You'll likely never have another one.

  • He says "better start gardening.... subsistence farming."

    1- Start saving seeds - or ordering natural seeds - while you still can.

    2- It doesn't have to be subsistence. Differrent people can focus on different productions, i.e. provide Goods and Services.

    3-yes, it's time to let go of the unnecessary, to go back to basics. You know, getting to know/converse with each other.

  • You should get "Gaia's Garden", it's a great book!

  • Thanks for the post.

    One of the Companies I worked for was a multi conglomerate a with mfg plant that made packaging equipment in Boca Raton Florida. The problems they faced was that their suppliers were really far away. Even in this day and age of peak oil, the costs to maintain a mfg plant are dependant on suppliers, location, delivery, and transportation of final product to its market.

    Inflation has killed the American dream, due to Nixon removing the dollar from the gold standard

  • However, Chinas boom will also be its bust, because changing a country from being an agricultural society to an Industrial one as quick as they have has led to over 100 million people as transients from the farms to the cities. Most are unemployed. When the market crashes, China will face massive unrest, starvation and political turmoil as a result. The World is going to see some terrible things in the near future. The key to survival is and will be community.

  • 2minstral--I got news for you.

    Like America bribes countries with it's American dollars (short term gain), China is smarter, it bribes nations by unloading vast numbers of cheap(not in quality) products and puts the west out of business. Seems to me,the Chinese wrecking method is working and United Tits for Israel is Kaa-Put!

  • Have you ever looked into the companies that pushed China into the Industrial age? I just made a 6 part series that deals with the CFR, peak oil, the competition for fossil fuels, etc.

    Have a look and let me know what you think. It's called Road to Endless War.

  • I'll take a look, thank you for your work.

    You too John.  Videos made by people like yourself may be used a hundred years in the future when teaching children about the fall of the American empire.

  • wont take a hundred years, possibly next decade

  • We may never again have big industry- but we can join together in communities - and produce quality - hand crafted goods!

    What is Cottage INDUSTRY- start small businesses - starting locally- trading cross- country. Bringing back the horse.

    The Feds hv nothing left for us- what they hv is for war production - we're not even getting leftovers.

    People, even if we have to start again - as in Colonial Times - we cannot let our children go hungry!

    We MUST take the bull by the horns.

  • The thing is that while the scum Feds and greedy Corps. have shut down, and given their businesses to China - what the Chinese have given us back- is garbage ! Junk - badly manufactured - WITH POISON CHEMICALS AND RADIOACTIVE!

    For this garbage, we should NEVER pay them!

    And everything we, in the U.S.- invented- has been given on a silver platter to them, and to India!

    Their economy is surging, while we're tanking.

  • bro...is this a weekday? or a sunday? lol

  • you didnt notice the for sale or lease signs, with weeds growing in the parking lots? Its not uncommon nation wide. this mess is just starting to roll. we have shipped our golden goose... manufacturing offshore, as our talent base atropies... after 2 years of most people loose enough of their skills to be uncompetitive.

    who is making money? Our civil 'service' folk, retiring at 5 to 10x what the average tax payer does... I dont know tampa, but nationall thats way over 100k a year.

  • yeah I did, and was being mildly fascetious. I did wonder though if maybe some of them had been still partially leased out in someway. i was chuckling... it's sad though, really. a ghost town.

  • the local shopping mall in my city is half empty and has been half empty for about a year now

  • Kid ,what is happening to America is.. Judgment.. we have about 18 months until dollar implodes

    the States will be the first to fold ,welfare programs and such..check out Linsey Willams site.....its........Sad

  • My bro used to live in Tampa... Thank heavens he got out of there and evac'd his family

  • Good video reporting. First time I seen anyone look at the actual manafacturing industrial park areas of towns.

    I did some searching and that wallpaper factory outlet is still in business as far they have a website. I don't know if they have any plants in the us still though.

    BTW how do you put your website url in the video in the corner like that in windows movie maker?

  • Thank you for your post. I had thought about doing a search on the company.

    I use Sony Vegas to edit the videos. It's a great program and I highly recommend it. PM me if you have any other questions about it.

    Thanks for watching and take care! -John

  • here in elkhart indiana we have a lot of industrial parks that look just like that.

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