Generally speaking... you're never supposed to use down elevator during the landing flare. Only up... want it to sink? Just stop pulling up...hold it off...hold it off...
we can see that pilot closed all the dive brakes during flare. I think that it was the reason he got pumped in the air again, then a sudden pitch down to correct that, followed by a pitch up so hard that he hit the runway with the tail of the ASK. What do you think? We got a lesson here. Use your dive brake as a reversed throttle during flare
is mir letztes wochenende auch passiert mit ner ask 21 doch da is die strömung in 1.5 meter abgerissen da ich leider den abfangbogen zu früh gesetzt hab
he shouldn't have pushed the stick forward.. he should have waited for the glider to gently settle down and progresively pull the stick in order to land it correctly
@ash104.... You say to much air brake,,,, that is not the case you mean to little speed.... All gliders have a Mark on the asi that any lower with full air brake you won't round out.... Normally aroun 50 knots.... This guy meerly didn't hold off.... Keep at it!
just as he starts his round out if u listen you can hear a clunking noise, this would probably be the pilot reducing the amount of airbrake he has resulting in the glider ballooning making the pilot panic incase the glider stalls onto the ground watch the reflection of his hand on the canopy because immedatly after the glider rises he rams the stick forward onto the stop and then pulls it back again resulting in the glider whiplashing and hitting the ground rather hard, oh well theyre learning
@TheFlyingmadness at the time when america was younger, now they invest so much money on the military and their population is much bigger which means that it's more likely for them to have more skilled people.
Yes, at the time Germany was at the top of technology and probably at piloting skills. I don't want to attend this flamewar, but to me it seems like that 99F is a ignorant kid who's failing to see the facts.
Awch! Whatever happened, he won't be making *that* mistake again! ;)
I'm no expert, but I think TheGreatFlyer is right. The glider clearly pitches up instantly as the air breaks are adjusted. The pitching up wasn't caused by a change in position on the stick, as we can see that remains in the same position. But then the pilot over-corrects and counters the pitching-up by shoving the stick forward violently. Glad he was alright in the end! (though the glider didn't sound too good! :))
he rounded out but thought he was too high and tried to correct it but as you can tell from this video your supposed to just keep holding off untill you hit the ground
I can CLEARLY see why this heppened. Replay 0:35. Look at the right of the cockpit. That time he pulls the airbrake leaver and the plane responds by putting the nose straight down. He should open the airbrakes way further!
@TheGreatFlyer The airbrakes do not have an effect on the attitude of the aircraft, they mearly control the rate of decent by disrupting the airflow over the wings, speed and attitude are controlled with the elevator. in this case I can see as he rounds out a little high and the aircraft starts to balloon he pushes the airbrakes nearly closed increasing lift and making the balloon worse, the the shoves the nose forward and with still alot of flying speed flys into the ground.
@TheGreatFlyer That's interesting! the K13's I learned to fly in (6-7hours) the airbrakes affected the sink rate greatly while only affecting the attitude slghtly(reduction in speed = nose down slightly as the glider tried to remain in trim). I was always taught to fly coordinated elevator and brakes, controlling the rate of decent with the brakes and the speed with the attitude of the glider. I still maintain the almost complete closure of the brakes increased lift making the balloon worse.
Either way it was a very heavy landing and it sounded like something was damaged, I bet he was well shook up. I always aim to have the round out completed by 3-4 feet and then gradually ease back on the stick as it sinks onto the ground with no flying speed remaining. you should never fly a glider onto the ground with flying speed still in abundance.
ich denke auch das es gerade für flugschüler sehr gefährlich sein kann, keine richtige platzrunde zu fliegen, da man ja wenn man so zur landebahnschwelle kreist, einen verminderten auftrieb hat, und in verbindung mit den bremsklappen leichter die strömung abreißen kann
When he realised that he had 'ballooned' he should of just shut his airbrakes and levelled everything before assessing the situation and re-doing his round out!
on the moment he begins the flare, he feels he's going up again because he flare's a little to much, in holland we learn that when that occures, we must level out the plane en try it again, instead, he pushed the nose into the ground, wich is the direct opposite of what you should do. however, he lives, the plane is still in good state, so it's a good flight :)
I trained in a Schweitzer 2-33 and on my first landing I must have bounced that puppy 12 feet. Think back to learning to land. I'll bet there are a lot of similar landings in your backgrounds.
You never, EVER take out dive-break that fast, it lead to a sudden increase in lift with the nose rising, then the speed drops almost immediatly, then, BANG.
It looks like as if the tail was touching ground first. He mad only one mistake, we call sometimes "pumping", he pulled and pushed suddenly the stick, because he was afraid of hitting the ground then tried to correct it too violently. OK, it happens with everyone.
@PilotMan7069 you have to make some experiences for your own. It was a hard landing but the landing gear should have been okay. So nothing to worry about and the student knows what he should do the next time (when he gets a good debrief) to perform a good flare ;-)
when i see this i come to think of asking any ask13 pilots, is this plane hard to touch down smoothly, because an ask13 in my club is landing hard all the time. for comparrason i fly an puchacz and havent smashed it into the ground before.
@fsxmaniac Well....it has been 30 years ago since I last flew. As far as I can remember I never had a hard landing in a ASK13. Well....as long as my instructor was in the back. :)
balloning like that in a cessna its ok you v got a engine to give u a littel boost but in a glider u bounse then you run out of airspeed the you fall out of the sky like a brick and dis is what he does lolXD
@mulymule12 gliders have to level out a foot or 2 above the ground, and hold it there till the aircraft stalls and lands, but it is tricky anyways :D thats why it's always good fun to wach students land
In my opinion the final approach looks OK but the problem is during the round out. It looks like he rotates to much and the nose rises very high, then rather than allowing the glider to recover itself he pushed the stick right to the front stop which inevitably makes the nose dive, only option at this point is to pull back on the stick but he has run out of time and it looks like the rear wheel touches down first and then slams the nose down.
He had his eyes fixed on the ground and during flaring he didn't shift to looking straight ahead so he flaired too high and, as you say, tried to correct with quick large movements of the stick, causing the tough landing. He also seems to be moving the stick a little too much on final approach, as if he's trying to control his approach angle by diving rather than by use of the spoilers.
klappen rein weil zu hoch abgefangen, dann nase nach unten gedrückt um wieder etwas fahrt aufzubauen und dabei klappen zu früh gezogen, noch beim andrücken .. is klar dass der vogel dann fällt :P
As we can see on the anemometer, the speed is correct for an ASK13 on final with the airbrakes deployed.This sucking landing occured because of this young pilot pitched down just during his flare, thinking he was maybe already on the ground.. The flight is completed when the glider is fully stopped on the field, not before!
idk about gliders, seeing as i fly single engines, but when we land, we keep back pressure even after we're on the ground, since the Aircraft is aerodynamically stalled, it helps slow down the aircraft and also you have a much smoother landing than in the video here
hmm maybe.. but i think the problem was in physical of the pilot. It's like the same wenn you driving car.. and you're looking hard to side.. you have to be careful that you don't are take the steering wheel with you. When you look he's pushing the brakes in front.. and short after that hes pushing the stick too. I think it's the typical problem in sensity of your nervs and movments. He connected both... so he pushed so hard.. greets
@pegase666 The reason for the pitch down in my opinion was that the round out was at least 10feet to early and it started to balloon, in an atempt to correct this he pushed not nose down resulting in a nose wheel landing, heavy and the glider would of needed am inspection before its next flight
@pegase666 Close - he then compounded the error by yanking back too far on the stick. The tail hit the ground, instantly reducing the angle of attack causing the aircraft to literally fall onto the main gear. This is why I liked teaching landings in the L-13 - that oleo gave an extra margin for student screw-ups. Thermals to you!
@pegase666 Yes, I think you are bang on Pegase666, hopefully that young man gave himself a big scare, and got a good debrief from his CFI and I don't mean getting chewed out, I'm sure the lad knows he messed up; he will learn from it and become a better safer pilot.
wow i almost felt the impact from here lol you dont release that much back pressure i got verbally arse raped for doing that on my second landing ever lol.
Petit décrochage à l'arrondi ou arrondi trop haut ! la vitesse s'écroule avant le touché, on appelle ça se poser comme une m.r.d. !!! persévère quand même, on fini toujours par y arriver...
Yeah, looks like he tried to adjust a round-out far too roughly, with too much elevator, and unecessarily reducing the air-brakes too much. Lots of repairs to do then.
I think it was his flare/roundout that was the problem. He flared too high, added some forward elevator to compensate and then realised he was going to plow the nose into the ground, giving some back elevator. Then the aircraft just slammed into the ground.
That's got to hurt!!! You've probably read the chapter "how to land my glider" again. But making mistakes is part of getting a better pilot. You'll probably never make this mistake again...
Why the hell did you throw the stick forward? Your supposed to bleed off the airspeed, not crash it into the ground. Remember, we do not land gliders like airplanes on a carrier.
You are absolutelly right, but watch it again, the problem wasn't the stick throwing, in the mirror of the canopy, you see, he pulled the airbrake with one quick move, i think that's why he stalled into the ground
das war kein Stömungsabriss Gerrit.. Der Pilot hat zu stark abgefangen, hat dann zu stark nachgedrückt, konnte nicht rechtzeitig wieder abfangen und ist aufn Boden geknallt.. das ist alles..
Thats true, but have a look at the speed indicator. When u know that 150kmph are way too much, please tell me where the yellow bow starts then.. he was flyin 100kmph u can clearly see that it was below 150 and the yellow bow which starts at 150 (or 140 im not sure)...
36 years of flying, 17k hrs (225 in gliders) and i had a landing that made me blush too...... i was fairly new in the b-737 and hit very hard on a very calm morning in Dallas ,TX..... i still shake my head over it ;-) .... what I'm trying to say is that it happens to all of us! That's why those landings where you don't feel the wheels touch the ground are so good......
think he should have put some airbake away, so as to give him a bit more speed so as to not stall it in,which is why it dropped onto the ground heavy instead of being flared properly
Lol. Not the best landing I must say.
SuperFlyingfreak 11 minutes ago
Balloon!
Xiphos572 3 days ago
Shift your gaze!!!!
adreigle 5 days ago
So...whill down forgott....shit happens
cichy1970 6 days ago
Sooooooooooo boring
Ranzabar 1 week ago
Nose to high tail first landing which banged the nose down . and it looked a bit quick.
I don't just fly models I have a schiebe sf26a which I fly, also fly back seat in an IS 30. and l13 blanik. , the above is only my opinion.
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Muffnat1 2 weeks ago
Nice dump mate..
ActingBored2009 3 weeks ago
Generally speaking... you're never supposed to use down elevator during the landing flare. Only up... want it to sink? Just stop pulling up...hold it off...hold it off...
Pyrotrons 3 weeks ago
Nice Landing there mate
carfenaticman123 3 weeks ago
And I thought some of my landings were bad!!
timmitchell9 4 weeks ago
Damn
gillesquain 1 month ago
may aswell of jumped out without a chute for a softer landing lol
hooch330 1 month ago
wtf, that was nasty. Was that solo? If so, he has no discipline. Even with making some mistakes, the landing should be much softer.
Fastbikkel 1 month ago
if only he had frozen all the levers at 0:35, it would have been a nice landing
johanschag 2 months ago
Damn, I think I lost a filling!
Nothing I can add here for the technical comments, other than as a solo student I did that with an L-13 and was very thankful for the oleo.
MrSunrise1961 2 months ago
first thing i would have said :"shit !"
jNS278 2 months ago
outch!
Merikles1 3 months ago
we can see that pilot closed all the dive brakes during flare. I think that it was the reason he got pumped in the air again, then a sudden pitch down to correct that, followed by a pitch up so hard that he hit the runway with the tail of the ASK. What do you think? We got a lesson here. Use your dive brake as a reversed throttle during flare
FJAnaba 3 months ago
omg-.-
pvcskate 4 months ago
is mir letztes wochenende auch passiert mit ner ask 21 doch da is die strömung in 1.5 meter abgerissen da ich leider den abfangbogen zu früh gesetzt hab
twilightfreaqbejr 4 months ago
@twilightfreaqbejr echt 1,5 meter?! dein armer arsch! ;) meinste nich das 1,5 m n bisschen viel des guten is sind? xD
FunSegelflieger 4 months ago
he shouldn't have pushed the stick forward.. he should have waited for the glider to gently settle down and progresively pull the stick in order to land it correctly
Apopiku 4 months ago
@ash104.... You say to much air brake,,,, that is not the case you mean to little speed.... All gliders have a Mark on the asi that any lower with full air brake you won't round out.... Normally aroun 50 knots.... This guy meerly didn't hold off.... Keep at it!
Liam1079 4 months ago
@ash104.... You say to much air brake,,,,
Liam1079 4 months ago
naja is blöd gelaufen, passiert ebend, man kann niht immer alles richtig machen, sowas kann auch erfahrenem Piloten passieren
haha2927 4 months ago
They shouldn't of let him fly unless they knew 100% he could fly and land safely, i never had a landing like this, however i almost hit a deer lol.
Podaliny 6 months ago
wie nervös er wahr nach der landung er hat sich kaun aus dem flugzeug getraut :-/
battelfielde9898 6 months ago
that would have been smooth too
bajesus666 6 months ago
retard
beedylove 6 months ago
just as he starts his round out if u listen you can hear a clunking noise, this would probably be the pilot reducing the amount of airbrake he has resulting in the glider ballooning making the pilot panic incase the glider stalls onto the ground watch the reflection of his hand on the canopy because immedatly after the glider rises he rams the stick forward onto the stop and then pulls it back again resulting in the glider whiplashing and hitting the ground rather hard, oh well theyre learning
limavadylad 6 months ago
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limavadylad 6 months ago
nazis cant fly for shit thats why they lose WW2
99F 7 months ago
@99F Of course we cant fly,
You are being called flying Ace if you shoot down 5 enemy planes.
In Nazi-Germany we had 885 Flight Aces, in GB you had only 80 Aces.
We had much better planes and planes under construction,
the only thing why GB won the Battle for England was you Brand-new Radar,
which was succesfully ignored by H. Göring
TheFlyingmadness 6 months ago
@TheFlyingmadness u stupid nazi ur best ace was the red baron and he crashed into the ground so wow
99F 6 months ago
@99F our best ace was Erich Hartmann with 352 shootdowns.
to Baron Manfred von Richthofen: He was shot in his back and crashed because he bleeded to death
TheFlyingmadness 6 months ago
@TheFlyingmadness when will u stop pretending that luftwafe had skillz, they did not, ur leader hitler was a pussy who shot himself
99F 6 months ago
@99F lol where are you from Great Britan or America?
We just lost because we had too many frontlines.
And i am NOT a Nazi just when i say we had skills, probaply more than the Royal Airforce or the American Airforce
TheFlyingmadness 6 months ago
@TheFlyingmadness at the time when america was younger, now they invest so much money on the military and their population is much bigger which means that it's more likely for them to have more skilled people.
Yes, at the time Germany was at the top of technology and probably at piloting skills. I don't want to attend this flamewar, but to me it seems like that 99F is a ignorant kid who's failing to see the facts.
warpgang 6 months ago
HolyShit! Is the plane okay?? :(
TC07TC 7 months ago
Stupid!!!
anthe01 7 months ago
poor K13
FsRockstar 7 months ago
next time he will get it right, or maybe not... :)
SabinoFNeto 8 months ago
to much air break I have done this myself once not fun
ash104 9 months ago
ouch
simonpaquetdotca 10 months ago
Ja, in der Scheibe sieht man wie er ganz ruckartig nachdrückt. Aber warum? (ich bin nur Motorflieger)
MonsieurBombardier 10 months ago
This almost happened to me too; got a bump at the touchdown and forgot to close the airbrakes. Luckily the instructor did his job instantly.
optyqus 10 months ago
Awch! Whatever happened, he won't be making *that* mistake again! ;)
I'm no expert, but I think TheGreatFlyer is right. The glider clearly pitches up instantly as the air breaks are adjusted. The pitching up wasn't caused by a change in position on the stick, as we can see that remains in the same position. But then the pilot over-corrects and counters the pitching-up by shoving the stick forward violently. Glad he was alright in the end! (though the glider didn't sound too good! :))
chromate222 10 months ago
he rounded out but thought he was too high and tried to correct it but as you can tell from this video your supposed to just keep holding off untill you hit the ground
GAFAAAAAA 11 months ago
das war aber echts selber schuld
The197boy 11 months ago
Bei einem Hollywood-Film würde die Kiste jetzt explodieren. Obwohl es ein Segelflugzeug ist, aber Hollywood würde es explodieren lassen.
eltfell 1 year ago
zu kurzer Landeanflug------zuhohe Geschwindigkeit---------und keine Zeit zu warten bis die Strömung unter den Tragflächen von alleine wegreißt
putputtrain 1 year ago
I can CLEARLY see why this heppened. Replay 0:35. Look at the right of the cockpit. That time he pulls the airbrake leaver and the plane responds by putting the nose straight down. He should open the airbrakes way further!
TheGreatFlyer 1 year ago
@TheGreatFlyer The airbrakes do not have an effect on the attitude of the aircraft, they mearly control the rate of decent by disrupting the airflow over the wings, speed and attitude are controlled with the elevator. in this case I can see as he rounds out a little high and the aircraft starts to balloon he pushes the airbrakes nearly closed increasing lift and making the balloon worse, the the shoves the nose forward and with still alot of flying speed flys into the ground.
lhitchins 1 year ago
@lhitchins They actually do have an affect in the K13 I fly. Thanks!
TheGreatFlyer 1 year ago
@TheGreatFlyer That's interesting! the K13's I learned to fly in (6-7hours) the airbrakes affected the sink rate greatly while only affecting the attitude slghtly(reduction in speed = nose down slightly as the glider tried to remain in trim). I was always taught to fly coordinated elevator and brakes, controlling the rate of decent with the brakes and the speed with the attitude of the glider. I still maintain the almost complete closure of the brakes increased lift making the balloon worse.
lhitchins 1 year ago
Either way it was a very heavy landing and it sounded like something was damaged, I bet he was well shook up. I always aim to have the round out completed by 3-4 feet and then gradually ease back on the stick as it sinks onto the ground with no flying speed remaining. you should never fly a glider onto the ground with flying speed still in abundance.
lhitchins 1 year ago
xDDDDDD
MagabTheFlyffer 1 year ago
ok das war wirklich keine schöne landung aber kann mal passieren,
aber ich finds immer interessant das bei vielen plätzen nicht mal ne vernünftige platzrunde gelehrt wird.......tststs
eigentlich: Queranflug dann folgt endteil
Hier: Querteil
naja
Freefall7858 1 year ago
@Freefall7858 meine Meinung :D so viele Piloten können nicht eckig fliegen...
Lufthansa115 11 months ago
@Freefall7858
ich denke auch das es gerade für flugschüler sehr gefährlich sein kann, keine richtige platzrunde zu fliegen, da man ja wenn man so zur landebahnschwelle kreist, einen verminderten auftrieb hat, und in verbindung mit den bremsklappen leichter die strömung abreißen kann
haha2927 2 months ago
beim landen überzogen und zu stark nachgedrückt
seilriss 1 year ago
Ouch. you can actually see the reflection of how he pushed the stick...
why would he do taht?! so bad... sooo bad :)
Born2Freeride 1 year ago
That is why we learn to pull on the stick while slowing down on the ground.
flightstar1 1 year ago
k13! 2cv of the skies!
it can take so much!
jetaddicted 1 year ago
When he realised that he had 'ballooned' he should of just shut his airbrakes and levelled everything before assessing the situation and re-doing his round out!
benc8411 1 year ago
weia sooooo viel platz und soooo verhauen...
Lagdieb 1 year ago
on the moment he begins the flare, he feels he's going up again because he flare's a little to much, in holland we learn that when that occures, we must level out the plane en try it again, instead, he pushed the nose into the ground, wich is the direct opposite of what you should do. however, he lives, the plane is still in good state, so it's a good flight :)
doudy009 1 year ago
I trained in a Schweitzer 2-33 and on my first landing I must have bounced that puppy 12 feet. Think back to learning to land. I'll bet there are a lot of similar landings in your backgrounds.
cannondale1950 1 year ago
@cannondale1950 Also trained in a 2-33 and never really had that problem :D
Justinh789 1 year ago
@Justinh789 You should try it. They bounce quite nicely, really. I think my instructor spent some time rethinking his career after that one.
cannondale1950 1 year ago
@cannondale1950 Haha, I`ve seen a few others do it and I have to agree....thud...close spoilers reflare XD
Justinh789 1 year ago
You never, EVER take out dive-break that fast, it lead to a sudden increase in lift with the nose rising, then the speed drops almost immediatly, then, BANG.
ysflightman 1 year ago
ouch
IPCjules 1 year ago
It looks like as if the tail was touching ground first. He mad only one mistake, we call sometimes "pumping", he pulled and pushed suddenly the stick, because he was afraid of hitting the ground then tried to correct it too violently. OK, it happens with everyone.
makos007 1 year ago
Looks like he bent the airframe........Where was the instructor during this?
PilotMan7069 1 year ago
@PilotMan7069 you have to make some experiences for your own. It was a hard landing but the landing gear should have been okay. So nothing to worry about and the student knows what he should do the next time (when he gets a good debrief) to perform a good flare ;-)
Toby333999 1 year ago
when i see this i come to think of asking any ask13 pilots, is this plane hard to touch down smoothly, because an ask13 in my club is landing hard all the time. for comparrason i fly an puchacz and havent smashed it into the ground before.
fsxmaniac 1 year ago
@fsxmaniac Well....it has been 30 years ago since I last flew. As far as I can remember I never had a hard landing in a ASK13. Well....as long as my instructor was in the back. :)
prevden2 1 year ago
OUCH THATS GOTTA HURT UR BACK
mmclaughlin01 1 year ago
i would have shit my pants if i was in there
bradman5505 1 year ago
big buck here to repair!
TERYDOTCOM 1 year ago
I said ouch when i saw that!
gliderpilotluke 1 year ago
ouch 0:38
GAFAAAAAA 1 year ago
Not too bad after all? He did nice GS. Maybe accidental terrain?
hallobaaaby 1 year ago
balloning like that in a cessna its ok you v got a engine to give u a littel boost but in a glider u bounse then you run out of airspeed the you fall out of the sky like a brick and dis is what he does lolXD
mulymule12 1 year ago
@mulymule12 gliders have to level out a foot or 2 above the ground, and hold it there till the aircraft stalls and lands, but it is tricky anyways :D thats why it's always good fun to wach students land
fsxmaniac 1 year ago
ouch..
CThompson151 1 year ago
That's an "oh s***" moment
MrTumnus8896 1 year ago
zu stark nachgedrückt nach dem wegsteigen
MrJoggl 1 year ago 12
oh man junge...man lässt die klappen draußen bis du stehst außer du machst ne lange landung
lllahstg001 1 year ago
hard to tell for sure, it does appear that he rounded out to soon, and may not have closed his spoilers.
ArizonaDesertPiper 2 years ago
ouch -.-
that was bad
MCAlternate 2 years ago
Da war wohl der Auftrieb fott
Oberstbonze 2 years ago
In my opinion the final approach looks OK but the problem is during the round out. It looks like he rotates to much and the nose rises very high, then rather than allowing the glider to recover itself he pushed the stick right to the front stop which inevitably makes the nose dive, only option at this point is to pull back on the stick but he has run out of time and it looks like the rear wheel touches down first and then slams the nose down.
pilot5054 2 years ago
He had his eyes fixed on the ground and during flaring he didn't shift to looking straight ahead so he flaired too high and, as you say, tried to correct with quick large movements of the stick, causing the tough landing. He also seems to be moving the stick a little too much on final approach, as if he's trying to control his approach angle by diving rather than by use of the spoilers.
SoaringHoosier 2 years ago
das rummst auch ordentlich ...
klappen rein weil zu hoch abgefangen, dann nase nach unten gedrückt um wieder etwas fahrt aufzubauen und dabei klappen zu früh gezogen, noch beim andrücken .. is klar dass der vogel dann fällt :P
jinhoove 2 years ago
wie schockiert er danach ist
marcelsiupka 2 years ago
ow!
motorhead112 2 years ago
too fast and his descent rate was to big he wa like 30 degrees on the final!
TheAsirus 2 years ago
As we can see on the anemometer, the speed is correct for an ASK13 on final with the airbrakes deployed.This sucking landing occured because of this young pilot pitched down just during his flare, thinking he was maybe already on the ground.. The flight is completed when the glider is fully stopped on the field, not before!
pegase666 2 years ago 35
idk about gliders, seeing as i fly single engines, but when we land, we keep back pressure even after we're on the ground, since the Aircraft is aerodynamically stalled, it helps slow down the aircraft and also you have a much smoother landing than in the video here
jimjonboy615 2 years ago
Ouch! Yeah, if you look at the top of the stick you can see him pushing forward. Strange thing to do, maybe he's used to flying Trikes? :)
Rickenbacker69 2 years ago
@pegase666 Looks to me like he rounded out to high, pitched up a bit to much, tired to correct but over did it.
ECAaxel 1 year ago
@pegase666 I think he just over corrected after the glider ballooned.
MrTumnus8896 1 year ago
@pegase666
hmm maybe.. but i think the problem was in physical of the pilot. It's like the same wenn you driving car.. and you're looking hard to side.. you have to be careful that you don't are take the steering wheel with you. When you look he's pushing the brakes in front.. and short after that hes pushing the stick too. I think it's the typical problem in sensity of your nervs and movments. He connected both... so he pushed so hard.. greets
VokalRacer 1 year ago
@pegase666 The reason for the pitch down in my opinion was that the round out was at least 10feet to early and it started to balloon, in an atempt to correct this he pushed not nose down resulting in a nose wheel landing, heavy and the glider would of needed am inspection before its next flight
lhitchins 1 year ago
@pegase666 yea he was not very smart in the landing... you would obviously feel a thud when the rear tires land... haha
Tj1056 7 months ago
@pegase666 Close - he then compounded the error by yanking back too far on the stick. The tail hit the ground, instantly reducing the angle of attack causing the aircraft to literally fall onto the main gear. This is why I liked teaching landings in the L-13 - that oleo gave an extra margin for student screw-ups. Thermals to you!
MrSunrise1961 5 months ago
@pegase666 Yes, I think you are bang on Pegase666, hopefully that young man gave himself a big scare, and got a good debrief from his CFI and I don't mean getting chewed out, I'm sure the lad knows he messed up; he will learn from it and become a better safer pilot.
pyewackett3822 4 months ago
autsch.... da ist es gut wenn man auf was weichem sitzt :-D happy landings ;-)
MrsLocke94 2 years ago
AUA, ist mir auch schon passiert.
danielsteinhauss 2 years ago
In aviation always remember to replace your divots.
FlightLevelHeaded 2 years ago
WAY too fast....spoil it in.
mjward99 2 years ago
Why did he push and pull so hard all of a sudden?
jmr604 2 years ago
wow i almost felt the impact from here lol you dont release that much back pressure i got verbally arse raped for doing that on my second landing ever lol.
jwalsh8 2 years ago
ouch no offense but that was really bad landing
bobistheman02 2 years ago
es un animal, le batio toda la colaaa !!!!!! qeu bestiaaaaa !!!!!!!
eltioleo 2 years ago
you can see the reflection of him over-yanking the stick into that hop. bummer.
sgomez858 2 years ago
Uhh damn he sucks...
marintoss 2 years ago
arme arme K13..
Xeripheas 2 years ago
bad landing!!!!!! como va a hacer eso !!!
37855929 2 years ago
I guess he didn't want anyone to use his plane when he got done that day.
tailwheelflier 2 years ago
Die K13 kann einem leid tun xD
gjsgfkdche 2 years ago
arme 13 :((((
is the plane still intact???
Warpedtank 2 years ago
Fail....
beer1for2break3fast4 2 years ago
Petit décrochage à l'arrondi ou arrondi trop haut ! la vitesse s'écroule avant le touché, on appelle ça se poser comme une m.r.d. !!! persévère quand même, on fini toujours par y arriver...
MikIndiaCharlie 2 years ago
Yeah, looks like he tried to adjust a round-out far too roughly, with too much elevator, and unecessarily reducing the air-brakes too much. Lots of repairs to do then.
Zaandvoort 2 years ago
I think it was his flare/roundout that was the problem. He flared too high, added some forward elevator to compensate and then realised he was going to plow the nose into the ground, giving some back elevator. Then the aircraft just slammed into the ground.
frankplummer 2 years ago
aua
Schorffi1994 2 years ago
SMASH!!!!!!!
DACLAWER 2 years ago
mmh.. was soll ich davon halten?!
bunningbunning 2 years ago
also die anflugsgeschwindigkeit war gut
(gelber pfeil) und er hat halt die klappen eingefahren und nachgedrückt
hätte er die klappen nur wenig eingefahren und den flieger schweben lassen wärs gut
4u2024 2 years ago 2
man merkt schon...- du hast Ahnung!
Sumi12345678 2 years ago 2
He doesn't evidently understand what approach speed is...
agentfazexx 2 years ago
Well, to high approach and big speeding on final... pilot go on his foot, thats mean good landing.
prawynieprawy 2 years ago
what do you want to do with changing the atitude and speed brakes at 5ft?? to many corrections without altitud..
poor glider
leonegro19 2 years ago
das is 100% eine ka13
kalamburnik 2 years ago
omg is das teil laut
Logitechmasters 2 years ago
his approach angle was too high with the nose and he tried to change it last second it seems.
At least he recovered well.
SamuelGervais 2 years ago
pilot = retard
silaqe 2 years ago
dumbass
tailwheelflier 2 years ago
looks like an ASK13....
Warpedtank 2 years ago
After that he should be back on Check flights with his Instructor.
keegan773 2 years ago
That's got to hurt!!! You've probably read the chapter "how to land my glider" again. But making mistakes is part of getting a better pilot. You'll probably never make this mistake again...
Wolve1978 2 years ago
Why the hell did you throw the stick forward? Your supposed to bleed off the airspeed, not crash it into the ground. Remember, we do not land gliders like airplanes on a carrier.
Mav1843 2 years ago
You are absolutelly right, but watch it again, the problem wasn't the stick throwing, in the mirror of the canopy, you see, he pulled the airbrake with one quick move, i think that's why he stalled into the ground
MMisi 2 years ago
Even my FIRST landing was better.
DualDesertEagle 2 years ago
Ne jamais forcer un planeur a atterrir en poussant sur le manche =)
LangeTribal 2 years ago
Waah c'est le OO-ZKO? Incassable, heureusement ;) Tu as touché avec la queue?
thibaud1300 2 years ago
das war dann wohl eine windböhe(kasten bier!!!!^^)
Rainbow975 2 years ago
when he crashed down i felt it too... weird
juniorracer1995 2 years ago
pooor ask 13
Nimbusflyer22 2 years ago
look like a k8,
da wahr woh l ein strömungsabriss
Gerrit22041992 2 years ago
@Gerrit22041992
Das war ne k13
AcroFlieger 2 years ago
ok, überzeugt
Gerrit22041992 2 years ago
das war kein Stömungsabriss Gerrit.. Der Pilot hat zu stark abgefangen, hat dann zu stark nachgedrückt, konnte nicht rechtzeitig wieder abfangen und ist aufn Boden geknallt.. das ist alles..
FSfreek 2 years ago
glaube eher schon, schau mal auf den Fahrtenmesser.
Desweiteren "eiert" das Flugzeug ein wenig und die nase ist ja nicht wirklich weit unten....
Gerrit22041992 2 years ago
stimmt hast recht.. könnte auch sein...
FSfreek 2 years ago
bit rough there
a3xis 2 years ago
Gliders are awsome! I definately want to try it.
Bonne123 2 years ago
rofl hey.. wer bitte lehrt denn.. das man im Landeanflug drückt wie ein OCHSE?
Das war so ne scheiss Landung... das darf man eig. keinem zeigen.
ati1000 2 years ago
hast ja nochmal glück gehabt
Derwurstpups 2 years ago
damn..
any damage?
MarcGroefsema 2 years ago
great video!
TeraMatthews 2 years ago
Is doch ganz klar, was passiert ist.
Er war zu schnell, hat zu früh abgefangen, der Flieger ist nochmal hochgeschossen, aus Reflex hat er dann nachgedrückt und is in den Boden gekracht.
Es halt dann ne ziemlich harte Landung...
Tretti1234 2 years ago 3
If he control air break and close it right on time he would land softly.
roomak1999 2 years ago
You can cirtanly afford to over shoot your aiming point on a field that big. Not worth breaking a glider or your self for a short retrieve
blingy99 2 years ago
The landing looks almost perfect until he starts to float out, to high. To compensate he pushes the stick forward and slams into the ground.
ehall007 2 years ago 2
150 km/h landing speed with a ASK13 is definately not perfect!
Tsheyro 2 years ago
Thats true, but have a look at the speed indicator. When u know that 150kmph are way too much, please tell me where the yellow bow starts then.. he was flyin 100kmph u can clearly see that it was below 150 and the yellow bow which starts at 150 (or 140 im not sure)...
Morisson555 2 years ago
any landing you can walk away from is a good one!
flyeroftheyear4444 2 years ago 10
@flyeroftheyear4444 sure. but any landing you can use the plane again afterwards is a great one :)
michi795 1 year ago
there was a lot of runway left too. . .did the knees hurt?
existentialvoid 2 years ago
Hey man , If the pilot is alive and can get out on his own feet , it's a good landing :)
ciobanuaddy 3 years ago 2
yeah but it probably hurts the planes :p
Faucon551237 2 years ago
36 years of flying, 17k hrs (225 in gliders) and i had a landing that made me blush too...... i was fairly new in the b-737 and hit very hard on a very calm morning in Dallas ,TX..... i still shake my head over it ;-) .... what I'm trying to say is that it happens to all of us! That's why those landings where you don't feel the wheels touch the ground are so good......
CaptSly 3 years ago 2
auuuuaaaa
jnh2509 3 years ago
think he should have put some airbake away, so as to give him a bit more speed so as to not stall it in,which is why it dropped onto the ground heavy instead of being flared properly
reggiepudding 3 years ago
Look at the airspeed indicator. Where was there a stall?
flugwolf 3 years ago