Barbara Wagner's received a rejection letter from The universal care system setup in her state run was crushing. The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission, learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope was a $4,000-a-month drug that was prescribed for her, but the rationing board, death panel, refused to pay. What the state run Oregon Health Plan did agree to cover were drugs for a physician-assisted death. Those drugs would cost about $50.
I am glad Stephanapoulis (sp?) knows his shit. Gingrich tries to pull out a total lie about Emanuel's brother being chief medical advisor, and George calls him on it. Too often politicians rely on the ignorance of not only the public, but the media as well.
"Sarah Palin, you have been summoned to the DEATH PANEL!" "Deaf panel? Okey dokey then, I'll talk really loud! HELLO DEAF PEOPLE! YOU CAN'T HEAR AND I SYMPA...uh...FEEL THE SAME AS YOU! OBAMA WANTS TO TAKE YOUR HEARING AID BATTERIES, BUT WE WON'T LET THEM - UH HIM!...WAIT FOR APPLAUSE! Dammit, I wasn't supposed to say that! Stinking notecard..."
Its not the right wing leaders that are in bed with the Muslims. Take a look at Hilliarys visit these past two weeks. Could she have made it anymore clear to the Iranians that this administration will look the other way if they continue to build nuclear weapons???
Give the Leftist Media time...... they will say... O'DimWitted was "MIS-QUOTED".... and it's not like they happened been doing it the whole time. Or they just say.... "They Are Racists" for saying it. Have you heard the new "BAD WORD" we can't say? It's COMMUNISTS? If we call O'Dumbo a communist.... it's the same thing as calling him the N-word????
How can any American with half a brain.... ADMIT they are part of the Democrap(Communist)Party?
I agree with you that CNN is a Lap Dog for liberal Ideas.... but this is the Messiah'sNBC News Media, that are spewing their rantings about Sarah Palin.
They too..... are the LAP DOGS for the Liberal(BrownShirt)Media.
Sorry buddy.... I don't listen to Savage..... but I do listen to Rush Limbaugh!
I think you better look in the mirror.... and see, that you need to scrub that BROWN STAIN off your nose... from sticking your face up BO's ass-cheeks!
Rush Limbaugh... not as bad as Savage, but still pretty fucking EMBARASSING. I think I stopped listening to Rush back when I was nineteen and could think for myself... when YOU turn nineteen, perhaps you'll see things differently. God willing.
I love listening to Rush. He cracks me up! I turned my mother onto Rush and now she is addicted to him! She will call me up and make sure I heard something on his show. Thanks to Rush.... My mother is VERY informed.... and entertained!
When I turn 19? I have two sons who were in the Army and they were both in Iraq. My third son, has just graduted from FSU..... so please do not tell me what I should think... but what can I expect from a Lib!
Hey what a coincidence! Rush cracks me up too, but I suspect it's for completely different reasons...
The stuff he says is so outrageous sometimes that I can't help but chuckle. ( :
Informed? *cringes* you forgot three important letters there buddy. If you listen to Rush and take his opinions as gospel truth, you are MISinformed. But it's okay, I understand. Typos happen all the time, right?
Yes..... some of the stuff he says "IS" out-rageous..... but it doesn't make it any less un-true!
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Rush can grow on you.... even the Leftist listen to him..... and sadly.... Rush allows them to spew their nonsense on his show! He does it to imform us.... how totally deranged your side is!
And.... Yes..... typos do happen all the time..... big deal.
Well, the leftists listen to him to either make fun of him or call him out when he says something overly offensive. And I don't have a side, I'm an independent. Try not to assume things, you know what they say about that. ( :
As for the typo thing, it was a joke, so if it went over your head, no worries. Maybe you'll get it here in a little while.
p.s. Mold can grow on you too, but most people don't enjoy it when it does.
Hmmmmm...... aren't jokes suppose to be funny? Maybe no one told you that.... even though it is funny to YOU.... if no one is laughing WITH you.... then YOU are the JOKE... and I don't mean joket in a funny way! LOL!
Independant? Who cares! I'm not interested in what you have to say.... when you are too afraid to take a side!
I'm not happy with everything that goes on in the Republican Party... but I KNOW I have NOTHING in commom with the TAX and SPEND... SPEND... SPEND.... Party!
No worries, most of the intellectual community is laughing with me. It's someone else who they're laughing at, and I can just bet that you know who!
Although the temptation to justify my political affiliation is great because I don't appreciate having things assumed about me, (I feel like I've had this conversation with you before) I figure the explanation might defy your framework of reasoning, so I won't bother.
Well we were. But it's just not as much fun when most of my subtle jabs go right over your head. But thanks for providing me with some quality entertainment all the same. ( :
Sarah Palin is so stupid she thinks youthanasia are those dirty Asian immigrants trying to migrate over the border to Alaska via the Russia/Alaska border.
That last comment at the end was what the Democrats should be saying more of. They need to take a leaf out of the Republicans book and keep it simple so that ordinary Americans don't get confused.
why anyone would bother to invite newt to discuss anything? The guy is clearly a moron. Rejecting a bill just because Obama's COS has a brother who once wrote something that might be construed as supporting euthanasia.
I still have no clue why Obama didn't give Howard Dean Sebelius' job. Sheesh.... I have a feeling he thought Sebelius would put a gentler face on the healthcare debate, but to paraphrase Sean Connery in The Untouchables, don't bring a KNIFE to a GUNFIGHT!
PUBLIC OPTION !is the best but if you dont like it just buy something else.. there will always be private companys to go to...this is only for the uninsured and those who want it...I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE THINK THIS WILL LIMIT CHOICE? RIGHT NOW 47 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE NO CHOICE THEY HAVE NO HEALTHCARE AND YOU ARE PAYING THEIR WAY ALREADY!! AT LEAST WITH PUBLIC OPTION WE CAN PREVENT THESE PEOPLE FROM ENDING UP IN E.R. ..SUPPORT THE PUBLIC OPTION!!EITHER WAY WE WILL PAY WHY NOT GET BEST DEAL??
Newt and most republicans always complain about "THE GOVERNMENT" as if it were the enemy yet they spent most of the time trying to rule it, what the fuck is wrong with this people???
Check out "The Wrecking Crew" by Thomas Frank. Republicans deliberately try to control and then ruin government to prove Ronald Reagan's assertion: "Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem." When Republicans run government, this is true!
gallo: "Newt and most republicans always complain about "THE GOVERNMENT" as if it were the enemy yet they spent most of the time trying to rule it"
Regardless of whether or not Gingrich is a saint, this is probably the worst argument I've ever seen.
It is entirely within the realm of possibility that Gingrich and most republicans believe the government to be "the enemy" and so spend their entire lives "ruling it" in order to try and fix it.
"Death Panel"?!? Oh my gawd. when does the fear spreading end? Remember that movie Soylent Green, set in 2022, the goverment would kill people and turn thier bodies into food. I think plain watched it and thought it as a real documentry.
I think the government SHOULD do away with a federal health care plan. It seems most people are squawking about it-well, give them what they want-NO health care. They will get exactly what they deserve and ask for. It especially will be funny when the prices of health insurance escalates that employers must either drop their plans or get cheaper policies that aren't worth a crap but must pay high premiums. Now THAT is what America wants-so LET THEM HAVE IT!!!
i cant believe no one has already taken ur screen name. these people think this is something new thats being pushed onto them. gov healthcare exist already theyre just trying to make it more available and affordable.
I really love Sarah Palin's "National Enquirer" tactics. I think she would be a fine president and people will get exactly what they deserve and what they ask for.
omg I love Howard Dean. He just puts it to you straight. I have to hand it to Newt, he is consummate and making the most outlandish fool headed crap seem plausible without making himself look like quite as much of a dunderhead as a Sarah Palin. He's smart enough to know hos to appease the crazies and ignoramuses of this country while coming off as a magnanimous scholar in the doing.
Does Newt know something about the government that the rest of us don't know. He says that we shouldn't trust the government, and by government I don't mean the Obama administration, but the government. Is there some secret society pulling all the levers behind the scenes that we have never heard of. The government is elected people and people hired by elected people. There is no big scary monster that jumps from around the corner that raises taxes and secretly assassinates people.
The big debate is if there is going to be a public option -- not if they are going to run healthcare.
The government is not going to pass single payer because there is not much support for it. If the republicans weren't bought and owned by the corporations, single payer would be up for discussion.
For losers like you to provide straw man arguments, is only impeding proper debate and discussion.
I agree with you on all counts but to be fair many of the democrats are also bought and sold. There are a few who might have true grit but the ones that are left are so easily cowed and accepting of the status quo that they're not going to fight but so much.
If we had a real left in this country that would be different but we don't so it's not.
lol yeah, look how he projects onto the democrats... Of course republicans are unreliable, but he thinks that just because they can't be trusted (and he can't be trusted) he thinks the democrats are as bad as they are.
Anyone who wants to know the truth should visit my profile. I have a link to an easier to read version of the bill as well as the answers to some of the most common questions people are asking in the comment section. I also have a list of the dems and repubs that are in the pockets of big pharma and the Ins. COs along with contact info including phone #'s. Do not fall for all the fear tactics. Nobody is attenpting to ration care or kill anyone.. If it sounds insane most likely it is insane.
These same people worried about "the government" now, trusted the government about invading Iraq. They called us "unpatriotic" if we didn't, remember folks? That was the government that wanted to do that.
Young people died, and lost limbs because people trusted the government then. We invaded because they supposedly had WMD's. They didn't.
Our government now is run by a guy who DIDN'T trust the gov about Iraq.
So maybe you guys should shut the fuck up for awhile-you are walking mistakes.
Always amused in these "public discussions" hearing government personified. Government bureaucrats are just people, who at the end of the day, are taxpayers, voters and parents, children, aunts and uncles, daughters and sons, etc. Just plain folks.
There is no "big government" persona out there which is the sum of the consciousnesses of those just plain folks who work there. It's a not-too-clever phrase for politicians, weasels and scare-mongers use to mess with you.
Sarah Palin is GOD's CHOSEN ONE, GOD INCARNATE and the LIVING EMBODIMENT OF GOD HERSELF! She WILL come back in 2012 smarter, tougher, wiser, and hardened. She will PWN the GOP primaries and PWN Obambi, becoming America's GREATEST POTUS of ALL TIMES! She will put all male POTUS to SHAME for they are all her DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCHES and PUSSIES! Palin is the TRUE MESSIAH and SAVIOR who will bring REAL, INSTANT and RADICAL CHANGE that this country needs in the Palin Revolution and Palinomics!
people have the power. rise up & stand up. Economy comes from Community. if you are a doctor, help people if you are a teacher teach people if you don't know who you are, be somebody... its the people who have the power..
And I hate when we get people like Newt who say, "how should we trust government?" When the insurance companies are the absolute worst thing that we as people can have. It's so absurd, it's getting ridiculous and annoying. Quit the rhetoric and the right wing propaganda. This is for the better good of the people, and now insurance companies are going to have to face competition, and they don't want that. And neither do the republicans, and the blue dog dems.
exactly , Im so tired of the right wing, neo-con conservatives howling over "government take over" of health care...what the hell do they think medicare and medicaid is? GOVERNMENT RUN PROGRAMS!
well the government didn't really take over GM, they just screwed it up so bad that the unions now posses it. Notice how well medicare and medicaid are working under government supervision. Let us continue to be stupid and give the government more power and more authority to run things because they and the unions do such a great job as managers. If you don't think they are great , just ask them, they will tell you the truth, they wouldn't lie , now would they. Believe the "neo-commie" left. tj
And what's wrong with OUR decision of ending our lives when a devastating disease strikes ? Why shouldn't we have the right to stop our existence when faced with excruciating pain, no dignity in our everyday lives when we know for sure no medication/treatment will make it better.
I love how he tried to take articles written by Zeke Emmanuel over more than a decade ago and act as if it was some kind of official position or text in the bill.
And if anybody should know it would be George S. since he's such good buddies with Rahm.
go ahead trust the gov't u schmuck when obama has 44 czars chosen illegally w/o the house & senates approval that are into eugenics and euthenasia plus not to mention they are proud commys..fucking douchebag
I have to say, I really don't get you Americans sometimes. The absurd things that are permitted to be said, simply because someone has a microphone in front of their face, are beyond ridiculous. I am all for freedom of speech, but spurring on this irrational fear of "big government", to the point of suggesting government officials will exercise euthanasia, is not only stupid; it's dangerous. There are crazy folks out there who could do some serious damage with this type of encouragement.
You know, I'm sure some of this is indeed illegal.
Constitutional free speech is covered in the first amendment only up to a point. For example, you can't scream "fire" in a crowded room if there's no real fire.
I mean, people are screaming "nazis." Rush Limbaugh is talking about fascism and naziism and is stirring more hate than anyone in the government with half a brain possibly could.
I just read on Drudge that Obama's death panel plans on instituting a bi-weekly human sacrifice along with 6 national internment camps for Christian white males. There's even a rumor he's going to prohibit all consumption of chocolate without a GOVERNMENT mandate!
That is precisely what the lurchers (60% of repubs) think. They think it's a socialist plot to become Africa and Acorn are the new KGB who'll drag Granny to get beaten to death while rigging elections and killing your baby. Man...
Or it's a joke, cretin. But one with a grain of truth, if you read around a bit. Besides, I was being generous - only 40% of Repubs are certain Obama is president, man - 40%! The other 60% seem to just think what they're told to by O'Reilly or, worse, Limbaugh or, even worse, Beck or, at the very bottom of the pile, Michael Savage. what I've written is a play on things all of these putas spew every day. The next is big story are non-existent Acorn thugs - I shit you not.
So.... who do you get your talking points from? Nazi Pelosi... Barbara(DogFaced)Boxer... O'Bomination.... Hitlery Cliton... Bill(WhiteThrash)Clinton... Ted(Splash/Murder)Kennedy.... George(CountryKiller)Soros..... Michael(FatAss)Moore.....
And..... you've got to be kidding.... NON-EXISTENT ACORN THUGS..... now who's living in a dream world! Who do you think O'Commie used to force banks into giving Welfare Reciepients Home Loans??? Here's a Hint..... ACORN THUGS!!!
So your comment consists of a whole bunch of over-used supposedly 'humourous' caricature names and I'm the one repeating, parrot like, the talking points? And what the fuck is it with you and Ted Kennedy? Why not be a little more tasteful?
Acorn is a real grass-roots organisation and you call them thugs? What about all these screaming imbeciles in town halls, repeating the lies Beck et al scared the hell out of them with the previous night? Are they not a mob, too, by your reckoning?
"HUMOUROUS"? I guess it does depend on... which side of the fence you are on.... I guess we do NOT share the same feelings over my witty NAME CALLING? LOL!
The only taste I feel for Ted)SplashMurder)Kennedy.... is the taste you have, when your food comes back up into your mouth! This Fat-Ass Evil Bastard does NOT deserve ANY respect! He KILLED a girl when he CRASHED his car into the water... He did NOT report it, until the NEXT DAY... when he was SOBER and he was SURE the girl was DEAD!
Barbara Wagner's received a rejection letter from The universal care system setup in her state run was crushing. The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission, learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope was a $4,000-a-month drug that was prescribed for her, but the rationing board, death panel, refused to pay. What the state run Oregon Health Plan did agree to cover were drugs for a physician-assisted death. Those drugs would cost about $50.
cupera1 2 years ago
Oh, Newt!, you are such a clown!
jhille85 2 years ago
I am glad Stephanapoulis (sp?) knows his shit. Gingrich tries to pull out a total lie about Emanuel's brother being chief medical advisor, and George calls him on it. Too often politicians rely on the ignorance of not only the public, but the media as well.
ericbar1984 2 years ago
Dean ur a flip flopper!
moviedude22 2 years ago
"Sarah Palin, you have been summoned to the DEATH PANEL!" "Deaf panel? Okey dokey then, I'll talk really loud! HELLO DEAF PEOPLE! YOU CAN'T HEAR AND I SYMPA...uh...FEEL THE SAME AS YOU! OBAMA WANTS TO TAKE YOUR HEARING AID BATTERIES, BUT WE WON'T LET THEM - UH HIM!...WAIT FOR APPLAUSE! Dammit, I wasn't supposed to say that! Stinking notecard..."
alkh3myst 2 years ago 2
Sarah Palin: fucking insane.
Magurufukuru 2 years ago
shes right some what... this plan will cut off some programs to the elderly and those "not worth liven"
merkyaleez59 2 years ago
one thing the Terrorists and right wing nuts have in common, they both hate the U.S government.
Keyekebero 2 years ago
Its not the right wing leaders that are in bed with the Muslims. Take a look at Hilliarys visit these past two weeks. Could she have made it anymore clear to the Iranians that this administration will look the other way if they continue to build nuclear weapons???
sandnich 2 years ago
Pay for health care, ridiculous. GO EUROPE!!
Novinte 2 years ago
Is being Brainwashed a requirement for American citizenship ?
TheManSand322 2 years ago
If its false then why would Obama himself say let Grandma just take a pill?
mmhmaster 2 years ago 2
Give the Leftist Media time...... they will say... O'DimWitted was "MIS-QUOTED".... and it's not like they happened been doing it the whole time. Or they just say.... "They Are Racists" for saying it. Have you heard the new "BAD WORD" we can't say? It's COMMUNISTS? If we call O'Dumbo a communist.... it's the same thing as calling him the N-word????
How can any American with half a brain.... ADMIT they are part of the Democrap(Communist)Party?
EmmaLG3 2 years ago
..... and it's not like they "haven't" been doing it the whole time ... already...
EmmaLG3 2 years ago
CNN is a lap dog for liberal ideas.
No real reporters here at all.
mmhmaster 2 years ago
mmhmaster,
I agree with you that CNN is a Lap Dog for liberal Ideas.... but this is the Messiah'sNBC News Media, that are spewing their rantings about Sarah Palin.
They too..... are the LAP DOGS for the Liberal(BrownShirt)Media.
EmmaLG3 2 years ago
Most are for sure.
mmhmaster 2 years ago
Do you just puke out Michael Savage all day long? I think I see a radio antenna sticking out of your ass.
jumpoutatree 2 years ago 2
HangingByYourTailFromATree,
Sorry buddy.... I don't listen to Savage..... but I do listen to Rush Limbaugh!
I think you better look in the mirror.... and see, that you need to scrub that BROWN STAIN off your nose... from sticking your face up BO's ass-cheeks!
YOU.... are EMBARRASSING!
Wake Up.... you DimWit!
EmmaLG3 2 years ago
Rush Limbaugh... not as bad as Savage, but still pretty fucking EMBARASSING. I think I stopped listening to Rush back when I was nineteen and could think for myself... when YOU turn nineteen, perhaps you'll see things differently. God willing.
jumpoutatree 2 years ago
Jumper,
I love listening to Rush. He cracks me up! I turned my mother onto Rush and now she is addicted to him! She will call me up and make sure I heard something on his show. Thanks to Rush.... My mother is VERY informed.... and entertained!
When I turn 19? I have two sons who were in the Army and they were both in Iraq. My third son, has just graduted from FSU..... so please do not tell me what I should think... but what can I expect from a Lib!
wabcradio drudgereport schnittshow
EmmaLG3 2 years ago
Hey what a coincidence! Rush cracks me up too, but I suspect it's for completely different reasons...
The stuff he says is so outrageous sometimes that I can't help but chuckle. ( :
Informed? *cringes* you forgot three important letters there buddy. If you listen to Rush and take his opinions as gospel truth, you are MISinformed. But it's okay, I understand. Typos happen all the time, right?
avilameon 2 years ago
avila,
Yes..... some of the stuff he says "IS" out-rageous..... but it doesn't make it any less un-true!
......wabcradioDOTcom.....
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Rush can grow on you.... even the Leftist listen to him..... and sadly.... Rush allows them to spew their nonsense on his show! He does it to imform us.... how totally deranged your side is!
And.... Yes..... typos do happen all the time..... big deal.
What's is your point?
EmmaLG3 2 years ago
Well, the leftists listen to him to either make fun of him or call him out when he says something overly offensive. And I don't have a side, I'm an independent. Try not to assume things, you know what they say about that. ( :
As for the typo thing, it was a joke, so if it went over your head, no worries. Maybe you'll get it here in a little while.
p.s. Mold can grow on you too, but most people don't enjoy it when it does.
avilameon 2 years ago
avila,
Hmmmmm...... aren't jokes suppose to be funny? Maybe no one told you that.... even though it is funny to YOU.... if no one is laughing WITH you.... then YOU are the JOKE... and I don't mean joket in a funny way! LOL!
Independant? Who cares! I'm not interested in what you have to say.... when you are too afraid to take a side!
I'm not happy with everything that goes on in the Republican Party... but I KNOW I have NOTHING in commom with the TAX and SPEND... SPEND... SPEND.... Party!
EmmaLG3 2 years ago
I hope you appreciate the TYPO... I gave you! LMAO!
It probably made your day!
Try and make a JOKE out of it! Just try and not make the joke on yourself.... again!
EmmaLG3 2 years ago
No worries, most of the intellectual community is laughing with me. It's someone else who they're laughing at, and I can just bet that you know who!
Although the temptation to justify my political affiliation is great because I don't appreciate having things assumed about me, (I feel like I've had this conversation with you before) I figure the explanation might defy your framework of reasoning, so I won't bother.
avilameon 2 years ago
avila,
Don't get your panties in a wad..... I thought we were having fun.... bickering back and forth!
Have a nice day.
EmmaLG3 2 years ago
Well we were. But it's just not as much fun when most of my subtle jabs go right over your head. But thanks for providing me with some quality entertainment all the same. ( :
avilameon 2 years ago
Right on Dean! Fuck the insurance companies.
tejaspics 2 years ago
Sarah Palin is so stupid she thinks youthanasia are those dirty Asian immigrants trying to migrate over the border to Alaska via the Russia/Alaska border.
burntonion05 2 years ago
That last comment at the end was what the Democrats should be saying more of. They need to take a leaf out of the Republicans book and keep it simple so that ordinary Americans don't get confused.
AtheistOnTheEdge 2 years ago
I wonder how far Newt's mistrust of the government went when he was speaker of the house.
CaramelAnt 2 years ago
why anyone would bother to invite newt to discuss anything? The guy is clearly a moron. Rejecting a bill just because Obama's COS has a brother who once wrote something that might be construed as supporting euthanasia.
smmm1968 2 years ago
I still have no clue why Obama didn't give Howard Dean Sebelius' job. Sheesh.... I have a feeling he thought Sebelius would put a gentler face on the healthcare debate, but to paraphrase Sean Connery in The Untouchables, don't bring a KNIFE to a GUNFIGHT!
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago
Man Howard Dean said it so well! Palin is crazy
nazmus 2 years ago
what the republicans really need to do now is focus on how to prove obama was born in the planet krypton.
baddmanaz 2 years ago
Newt needs to take his meds.lmao
jer4703 2 years ago
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PUBLIC OPTION !is the best but if you dont like it just buy something else.. there will always be private companys to go to...this is only for the uninsured and those who want it...I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE THINK THIS WILL LIMIT CHOICE? RIGHT NOW 47 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE NO CHOICE THEY HAVE NO HEALTHCARE AND YOU ARE PAYING THEIR WAY ALREADY!! AT LEAST WITH PUBLIC OPTION WE CAN PREVENT THESE PEOPLE FROM ENDING UP IN E.R. ..SUPPORT THE PUBLIC OPTION!!EITHER WAY WE WILL PAY WHY NOT GET BEST DEAL??
STEEEVVYZ 2 years ago
YEAH!!! Moronic Americans love getting screwed by Newt and his buddies!!! Shitty American health care forever!!!
lamouchemorte 2 years ago 3
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Maplesyrup41 2 years ago
Our government can't be trusted - the one we elect - but private companies can decide who lives and dies? WHAT?!?!?!
gplex86 2 years ago 6
Howard Dean FTW.
... I believe he would have made a great president.
ehkinoh 2 years ago 3
lol "it's another example of Sarah Palin having trouble being serious about entering an issue"
jonr7007 2 years ago
Newt and most republicans always complain about "THE GOVERNMENT" as if it were the enemy yet they spent most of the time trying to rule it, what the fuck is wrong with this people???
gallomex13 2 years ago 3
Check out "The Wrecking Crew" by Thomas Frank. Republicans deliberately try to control and then ruin government to prove Ronald Reagan's assertion: "Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem." When Republicans run government, this is true!
bkarwin 2 years ago 2
gallo: "Newt and most republicans always complain about "THE GOVERNMENT" as if it were the enemy yet they spent most of the time trying to rule it"
Regardless of whether or not Gingrich is a saint, this is probably the worst argument I've ever seen.
It is entirely within the realm of possibility that Gingrich and most republicans believe the government to be "the enemy" and so spend their entire lives "ruling it" in order to try and fix it.
Moron.
irpwny 2 years ago
They had fisrt 6 years out of the 8 from the last Republican ruled goverment.....tell me did they fix it?
gallomex13 2 years ago
gallo: "They had fisrt 6 years out of the 8 from the last Republican ruled government.....tell me did they fix it?"
I'm sorry your reading comprehension is so pitiably low.
You assume all Republicans had the same goals, ends and desires, and, what's more, the ability to effect sweeping change.
Even George Bush, with his Republican majority, had severe difficulty getting his policies through Congress.
Try again :)
irpwny 2 years ago
Dumb Ass!!!
gallomex13 2 years ago
Newt rambles on about bullshit and then Dean speaks clearly and makes sense at the end.
You won't find a better illustration between the current Republican/Democrat platforms than that right there.
CynicalSavior 2 years ago 3
Sarah Palin is a joke
Berniewrestle 2 years ago 2
"Death Panel"?!? Oh my gawd. when does the fear spreading end? Remember that movie Soylent Green, set in 2022, the goverment would kill people and turn thier bodies into food. I think plain watched it and thought it as a real documentry.
zidmt 2 years ago
I think the government SHOULD do away with a federal health care plan. It seems most people are squawking about it-well, give them what they want-NO health care. They will get exactly what they deserve and ask for. It especially will be funny when the prices of health insurance escalates that employers must either drop their plans or get cheaper policies that aren't worth a crap but must pay high premiums. Now THAT is what America wants-so LET THEM HAVE IT!!!
WinterHaven 2 years ago
i cant believe no one has already taken ur screen name. these people think this is something new thats being pushed onto them. gov healthcare exist already theyre just trying to make it more available and affordable.
foripu 2 years ago
Newt is an asshole. I bet he never even read the bill.
Sarah has a different problem, like Bush i don't think she can read that well!
innerself9 2 years ago
I really love Sarah Palin's "National Enquirer" tactics. I think she would be a fine president and people will get exactly what they deserve and what they ask for.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
I think she would be a fine president: Let's just say people would deserve what they ask for.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
omg I love Howard Dean. He just puts it to you straight. I have to hand it to Newt, he is consummate and making the most outlandish fool headed crap seem plausible without making himself look like quite as much of a dunderhead as a Sarah Palin. He's smart enough to know hos to appease the crazies and ignoramuses of this country while coming off as a magnanimous scholar in the doing.
SquallCloud 2 years ago
Does Newt know something about the government that the rest of us don't know. He says that we shouldn't trust the government, and by government I don't mean the Obama administration, but the government. Is there some secret society pulling all the levers behind the scenes that we have never heard of. The government is elected people and people hired by elected people. There is no big scary monster that jumps from around the corner that raises taxes and secretly assassinates people.
terrence0258 2 years ago
This is Crazy!
We all know a government run health care system will provide all the medical care everyone wants for free.
Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus!!!
gsuitter 2 years ago
theres no such thing as a free lunch
savior02 2 years ago
Two questions.
Which committee has proposed a bill that has a government run health care plan that is free?
What part of Virginia can I find Santa?
terrence0258 2 years ago
The big debate is if there is going to be a public option -- not if they are going to run healthcare.
The government is not going to pass single payer because there is not much support for it. If the republicans weren't bought and owned by the corporations, single payer would be up for discussion.
For losers like you to provide straw man arguments, is only impeding proper debate and discussion.
mrblob20 2 years ago
I agree with you on all counts but to be fair many of the democrats are also bought and sold. There are a few who might have true grit but the ones that are left are so easily cowed and accepting of the status quo that they're not going to fight but so much.
If we had a real left in this country that would be different but we don't so it's not.
SquallCloud 2 years ago
Newt is asking US to actually believe anything He says?
Get Real he is a PUNK ass Repuglican
1234uz 2 years ago 2
Are you asking Us to tust you Newt?
Wisegeorge 2 years ago 2
lol yeah, look how he projects onto the democrats... Of course republicans are unreliable, but he thinks that just because they can't be trusted (and he can't be trusted) he thinks the democrats are as bad as they are.
mrblob20 2 years ago 2
Anyone who wants to know the truth should visit my profile. I have a link to an easier to read version of the bill as well as the answers to some of the most common questions people are asking in the comment section. I also have a list of the dems and repubs that are in the pockets of big pharma and the Ins. COs along with contact info including phone #'s. Do not fall for all the fear tactics. Nobody is attenpting to ration care or kill anyone.. If it sounds insane most likely it is insane.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago 3
These same people worried about "the government" now, trusted the government about invading Iraq. They called us "unpatriotic" if we didn't, remember folks? That was the government that wanted to do that.
Young people died, and lost limbs because people trusted the government then. We invaded because they supposedly had WMD's. They didn't.
Our government now is run by a guy who DIDN'T trust the gov about Iraq.
So maybe you guys should shut the fuck up for awhile-you are walking mistakes.
zndprophet 2 years ago 5
If you click on any of the ads like the one in the upper right hand corner of this page to support Palin.. it actually costs palin money.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
stupid is what stupid does
DKW2088 2 years ago
A REPUBLICAN PUT THE END OF LIFE DISCUSSION CLAUSE INTO THE BILL. For Gods sake, Newt, have a shred of decency.
JobDDT 2 years ago 3
f u newt the hooooor!
kargenlewis 2 years ago
youthinize sarah palin in 2012!
kargenlewis 2 years ago
you can see it on newts face. he wants to scream, "SHUTUP GEORGE JUST LET ME LIE!"
sirdaveysockrocker 2 years ago
I want to be on a death panel. Don't stifle my dreams CNN.
calgore21 2 years ago
clearly abc
mattdawgg1 2 years ago
Always amused in these "public discussions" hearing government personified. Government bureaucrats are just people, who at the end of the day, are taxpayers, voters and parents, children, aunts and uncles, daughters and sons, etc. Just plain folks.
There is no "big government" persona out there which is the sum of the consciousnesses of those just plain folks who work there. It's a not-too-clever phrase for politicians, weasels and scare-mongers use to mess with you.
voyeurdug 2 years ago
Sarah Palin is GOD's CHOSEN ONE, GOD INCARNATE and the LIVING EMBODIMENT OF GOD HERSELF! She WILL come back in 2012 smarter, tougher, wiser, and hardened. She will PWN the GOP primaries and PWN Obambi, becoming America's GREATEST POTUS of ALL TIMES! She will put all male POTUS to SHAME for they are all her DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCHES and PUSSIES! Palin is the TRUE MESSIAH and SAVIOR who will bring REAL, INSTANT and RADICAL CHANGE that this country needs in the Palin Revolution and Palinomics!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
ur funny
sirdaveysockrocker 2 years ago
save the planet kill yourself.. ha ha ha ha
drmondman1 2 years ago
people have the power. rise up & stand up. Economy comes from Community. if you are a doctor, help people if you are a teacher teach people if you don't know who you are, be somebody... its the people who have the power..
drmondman1 2 years ago
Am I the only one who thinks Howard Dean is hot?
SubmarinerAndroid 2 years ago
yes
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago
Really? Did you conduct a survey?
Maybe I should have asked it the other way: anyone else think Howard Dean is hot?
SubmarinerAndroid 2 years ago
nope, no survey, you asked a question and I answered. I think your rephrased question is much better worded.
I don't think he is, but old white men never have done it for me. Does he have a daughter ?
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago
Links to the original video?
On the side..
Ugh.
jdquarg 2 years ago
And I hate when we get people like Newt who say, "how should we trust government?" When the insurance companies are the absolute worst thing that we as people can have. It's so absurd, it's getting ridiculous and annoying. Quit the rhetoric and the right wing propaganda. This is for the better good of the people, and now insurance companies are going to have to face competition, and they don't want that. And neither do the republicans, and the blue dog dems.
yanks1022 2 years ago
exactly , Im so tired of the right wing, neo-con conservatives howling over "government take over" of health care...what the hell do they think medicare and medicaid is? GOVERNMENT RUN PROGRAMS!
boonatron 2 years ago 2
well the government didn't really take over GM, they just screwed it up so bad that the unions now posses it. Notice how well medicare and medicaid are working under government supervision. Let us continue to be stupid and give the government more power and more authority to run things because they and the unions do such a great job as managers. If you don't think they are great , just ask them, they will tell you the truth, they wouldn't lie , now would they. Believe the "neo-commie" left. tj
tj5555555 2 years ago
And what's wrong with OUR decision of ending our lives when a devastating disease strikes ? Why shouldn't we have the right to stop our existence when faced with excruciating pain, no dignity in our everyday lives when we know for sure no medication/treatment will make it better.
classicallady 2 years ago
Why am I not surprised? Oh Yep, comes fro the sore loser, brain-dead, dimwitt Palin
classicallady 2 years ago 4
Gingrich takes disingenuousness to new levels. And Dean smacks him down brilliantly.
fishhead06 2 years ago 4
Dont trust the government, i dont mean the obama administration, they're not the government. Dont trust the "Government"
I really dont get this. How is anyone dumb enough to listen to this stuff.
seanbrockest 2 years ago
Newt is a total douchebag.
I love how he tried to take articles written by Zeke Emmanuel over more than a decade ago and act as if it was some kind of official position or text in the bill.
And if anybody should know it would be George S. since he's such good buddies with Rahm.
Deweydecible 2 years ago 2
go ahead trust the gov't u schmuck when obama has 44 czars chosen illegally w/o the house & senates approval that are into eugenics and euthenasia plus not to mention they are proud commys..fucking douchebag
savior02 2 years ago
So, what you're saying is: "Everyone who Obama is associated with is Bill Ayers and wants to kill my Grandma".
How do you argue with that?
MadDogOfist 2 years ago
This one's foe savoir02: Whiy do name calling, phoney facts and misspelling always go together?
elfyboy 2 years ago
put a cock in it elfboy
savior02 2 years ago
Newt you are a joke!
ArkeAngelRevonulet 2 years ago 6
Single Payer is the only choice
PersonalJesus348 2 years ago
Newt: "Your asking us to trust turning power over to the government"
"that government of the people, by the people, for the people" - Abraham Lincoln
if we cannot trust our own government, that says more about us than it does our government. It tells me a great deal about you, Mr. Former Speaker.
chaossource 2 years ago 6
Yeah, it's pure paranoia on the part of a guy who, you know, was a pretty integral part of the government.
p00lman 2 years ago
chaossource - PERFECTLY SAID!
Bi99aDK 2 years ago
Did our founders trust the government?
eurohim 2 years ago
I have to say, I really don't get you Americans sometimes. The absurd things that are permitted to be said, simply because someone has a microphone in front of their face, are beyond ridiculous. I am all for freedom of speech, but spurring on this irrational fear of "big government", to the point of suggesting government officials will exercise euthanasia, is not only stupid; it's dangerous. There are crazy folks out there who could do some serious damage with this type of encouragement.
triluv 2 years ago 7
You know, I'm sure some of this is indeed illegal.
Constitutional free speech is covered in the first amendment only up to a point. For example, you can't scream "fire" in a crowded room if there's no real fire.
I mean, people are screaming "nazis." Rush Limbaugh is talking about fascism and naziism and is stirring more hate than anyone in the government with half a brain possibly could.
p00lman 2 years ago 4
Jim Adkisson
Scott Roeder
Richard Poplawski
and
James von Brunn
Four PSYCHO-BOMBS that the political terrorists in the right wing noise machine have already set off just SIX MONTHS into the Obama Administration.
This kind of psychotic rabble-rousing has ALREADY proved to be dangerous.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago
Newt says we can't trust the government and he should know, he helped run it for years. Damn crook.
Philinspaces 2 years ago 8
Newt: What did you do as speaker of the house that makes you KNOW government can't be trusted? Classic projection.
raytheist 2 years ago 7
LOL a government worker is saying "your asking us to trust the government"
Its always hilarious how th e GOP likes to act as if they are our friends and not a bunch of guys who want to rule us.
GOP = party of fail
These are the same people who think climate change is a myth and obama is kenyan
3star2nr 2 years ago 5
Notice in their language, when republicans aren't in power, it's "the government." When republicans are in power, it's "the people."
p00lman 2 years ago 9
great point
carrierexchange 2 years ago
3:02 euthanasia isn't in the bill ... that sums this who vid
robinvan1983 2 years ago 5
I trust the government a lot more than corporations...
toribaltimore 2 years ago 8
She really needs to GTFO already.
PTurchan1 2 years ago 8
I agree.
mike50333 2 years ago
I hear the Obama plan requires Satan worship, mandatory blood letting, and bans ice cream.
Richardgwm 2 years ago 11
I heard Obama's plan will make happiness illegal. I also heard his plan will give every illegal alien one white virgin as a welcome gift to America.
Parsrebel1 2 years ago 11
Noooooo! not forbidding ice cream!!!!
SailorCire 2 years ago 2
The fiend! lol
mike50333 2 years ago 2
And don't forget: Sacrificing puppies!
RodgersRevolution 2 years ago 4
Excellent argument.
eurohim 2 years ago
I just read on Drudge that Obama's death panel plans on instituting a bi-weekly human sacrifice along with 6 national internment camps for Christian white males. There's even a rumor he's going to prohibit all consumption of chocolate without a GOVERNMENT mandate!
Be afraid.
andid 2 years ago 3
Under Obama's plan, all Republicans will be secretly killed by their doctors.
taoofmichael 2 years ago 2
That is precisely what the lurchers (60% of repubs) think. They think it's a socialist plot to become Africa and Acorn are the new KGB who'll drag Granny to get beaten to death while rigging elections and killing your baby. Man...
MadDogOfist 2 years ago
mad: "They think it's a socialist plot to become Africa and Acorn are the new KGB"
If you seriously, honestly believe this to be true about republicans, you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Unfortunately, your comment probably really does belie how woefully misinformed you actually are.
irpwny 2 years ago
Or it's a joke, cretin. But one with a grain of truth, if you read around a bit. Besides, I was being generous - only 40% of Repubs are certain Obama is president, man - 40%! The other 60% seem to just think what they're told to by O'Reilly or, worse, Limbaugh or, even worse, Beck or, at the very bottom of the pile, Michael Savage. what I've written is a play on things all of these putas spew every day. The next is big story are non-existent Acorn thugs - I shit you not.
MadDogOfist 2 years ago
RabidDog,
So.... who do you get your talking points from? Nazi Pelosi... Barbara(DogFaced)Boxer... O'Bomination.... Hitlery Cliton... Bill(WhiteThrash)Clinton... Ted(Splash/Murder)Kennedy.... George(CountryKiller)Soros..... Michael(FatAss)Moore.....
And..... you've got to be kidding.... NON-EXISTENT ACORN THUGS..... now who's living in a dream world! Who do you think O'Commie used to force banks into giving Welfare Reciepients Home Loans??? Here's a Hint..... ACORN THUGS!!!
YOU TWIT!
EmmaLG3 2 years ago
So your comment consists of a whole bunch of over-used supposedly 'humourous' caricature names and I'm the one repeating, parrot like, the talking points? And what the fuck is it with you and Ted Kennedy? Why not be a little more tasteful?
Acorn is a real grass-roots organisation and you call them thugs? What about all these screaming imbeciles in town halls, repeating the lies Beck et al scared the hell out of them with the previous night? Are they not a mob, too, by your reckoning?
MadDogOfist 2 years ago
"HUMOUROUS"? I guess it does depend on... which side of the fence you are on.... I guess we do NOT share the same feelings over my witty NAME CALLING? LOL!
The only taste I feel for Ted)SplashMurder)Kennedy.... is the taste you have, when your food comes back up into your mouth! This Fat-Ass Evil Bastard does NOT deserve ANY respect! He KILLED a girl when he CRASHED his car into the water... He did NOT report it, until the NEXT DAY... when he was SOBER and he was SURE the girl was DEAD!
EmmaLG3 2 years ago
Everything you said is incorrect. Anything you say in response to this post, I'm sure, will also be incorrect. You twit.
jumpoutatree 2 years ago
mad: "Or it's a joke"
Nah. You state, quite emphatically, "precisely" what 60% of Republicans believe.
'But a joke with a grain of truth'
So which is it? Is the assertion true? false? a joke? sort of true? maybe true? Or is it a fabrication of your poor, unfortunate dogmatic ignorance?
You poor thing :(
irpwny 2 years ago
"The sign of a first class intellect is that he can simultaneously hold two opposing thoughts as being true and still function." (FSF).
MadDogOfist 2 years ago
mad: "The sign of a first class intellect is that he can simultaneously hold two opposing thoughts as being true and still function."
Cute, but entirely irrelevant.
Have you given up entirely?
irpwny 2 years ago
Yeah, I got this list of things that are in the bill in an email today. It's got page and line numbers for HR 3200 on it, so it MUST be true.
Page 24 lines 1-3: Govt. will mandate worship of satan.
Page 35 lines 2-5: Ice cream will be RATIONED! You have no choice!
Page 45 lines 1-20: Illegal aliens will be entitled to EAT YOUR PUPPIES!
WAKE UP AMERICA!!! READ THE BILL!!! GOOGLE IT!
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago