Das unglaubliche Talent Schuberts als Komponist wird für mich immer wieder mit diesem Lied plastisch. Das Bild des Spinnrads in der Monotonie der Melodie muss eine Sängerin erst einmal meistern. Und vor allem den Wahnsinn, dem Gretchen immer näher ist. Popp hat natürlich die perfekte Stimmfarbe für Gretchen und eine technische Meisterin ist sie ja sowieso.
I am a pianist who only likes to sing for fun, but I still appreciate the sheer beauty of her voice and the very convincing "spinning" sound produced by the pianist. 5 stars!
After listening to Gundula Janowitz and Kiri Te Kanawa put this song to sleep, it's easier to appreciate the vocal assumption that Popp made here. She's a light-lyric soprano singing a song with such dramatic intensity that her voice nearly comes unglued. But what passion! This is why Popp may well have been the greatest female Schubert of interpreter of the modern era. Other vocalists graced this song with greater beauty but none with greater conviction.
Lucia Popp is one of my favorite singers... BUT this reading is seems a bit planned. To take one of the seminal songs of all and give it such a planned and controlled reading is a bitdisappointing. I do no hear the desperation i crave here/
Mhm, I did this song for a performance(There was an accompaniment cd with my music book) and it was much faster than this. It sounds much better faster. It's more spinning wheel like.
Popp did sing Wagner (Eva, Elsa, and on record, Elizabeth). As she matured, her voice became "jugendlich dramatische", fuller and more sensuous. But it was never a big voice. I admired Popp's risk-taking but she was close to being the opposite of Birgit Nilssen.
Brilliant. Absurd to suggest this Lied was outside here Fach....give me a break. Have a listen to the Fleming- Eschenbach recording for a real laugh. It sounds like pornographic verismo with the longest Kuss in history....roaring and exciting but not Schubert.
I don't know this recording but I heared the song live by Fleming some years ago and I had exactly the same impression. In French we say, it's du "chiqué", meaning that everything is prepared with effect in view. With Popp, we have a real emotion.
Just to be clear, I'm an unapologetic Popp fan. Her artistry was first-rate. Great singers are judged not by the imperfections in their instrument (Callas would be the most obvious example here) but by their emotional idenitication in conveying the material at hand. Her vocal limitations notwithstanding, Popp was a major artist. I saw her perform at least a half dozen times and no one surpassed her in expressing a character's humanity.
Elly Ameling and Lucia Popp had different voices even thought they were both classified as lyric sopranos. As she matured, Popp's top began to narrow and her high notes often sounded forced, although she was still able to float ravishing pianissimi. Singers like Ameling, Edith Mathis, or Kathleen Battle were able to "bloom" at the top naturally - their voices didn't strain under pressure.
Come on, Schubert doesn't tax his singers technically. I think the high A near the end here is the highest note he ever wrote in a lied. Expression is everything.
Co-sign on the top note observation except for Kathleen - she "bloomed" up to a C or C#6 but above that - ew. Listen to her "Una voce poco fa" or better/worse, "Grossmächtige Prinzessin". Everything above a D flat is dry and thiiiiis close to a scream.
I have the same opinion as you!!! I don´t agree with the opinion of "Azzenstudent" - I don´t think, that this song was not for Lucia´s voice. She sings it incredible, without any slip!!! and also very dearly and feelingly *BRAVO LUCINKA*
As much as I love Popp, this song is simply wrong for her voice. The fortissimo on "dein kuss" really suffers for lack of heft. Popp, of course, was famous for singing outside her "fach". While I admired her courage, I used to think she was exposing her voice unnecessarily. Sometimes the overall result was worth the risk, but in this case, probably not.
I know a 14 year old girl who sings this song beautifuly,in a very similar way to lucia!! I think that it is much better with a lighter (or younger ) voice but with plenty of emoition thana hefty voice with no emoition!!
oh and by the way are you aware that Lucia sang Wagner? I highly dount that anyone who could sing even the lighter wahner would have a voice too small for a lied!!
I heard Popp sing at least a half-dozen times back in the 70s ( as Sophie, Susanna, Rosina, Zerlina, Despina). Her voice was small and easily got swamped by others in ensembles. I don't mean this as a criticism. She was who she was, and her voice was quite pure for this reason. Bigger voices almost invariably sacrifice tonal beauty for size.
Das unglaubliche Talent Schuberts als Komponist wird für mich immer wieder mit diesem Lied plastisch. Das Bild des Spinnrads in der Monotonie der Melodie muss eine Sängerin erst einmal meistern. Und vor allem den Wahnsinn, dem Gretchen immer näher ist. Popp hat natürlich die perfekte Stimmfarbe für Gretchen und eine technische Meisterin ist sie ja sowieso.
Altonahh10 2 months ago
Gorgeously sung, as always. Love Lucia, love Franz.
Ludlow889 6 months ago
Amazing sound and resonance in her vocals! You've also gotta love Schubert for his tremendous vocal lines.
SavedSMVElove 10 months ago
@bassfanne45 "You might also like to listen to Barbara Bonney's"
Of course I will. I always love whatever Barbara does. love Lucia also. Everything Lucia does is perfect for me. She is Miss Perfect.
SugarTomAppleRoger 1 year ago
The best of the best. Beautiful!
ZeevRoizman 1 year ago
Learning this song now, geez wish I could sing like her.
romanticgeek87 1 year ago
@romanticgeek87 you and I both xD(on both counts xD)
Denuhm 1 year ago
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warriorfan24 2 years ago
Very beautiful !!!
robertavaleria68 2 years ago
do you know who is the pianist in this recording?
DonnaVetta 2 years ago
WOW!!! What a performance.....that gave me chills!
Pianokitty23 2 years ago
I am a pianist who only likes to sing for fun, but I still appreciate the sheer beauty of her voice and the very convincing "spinning" sound produced by the pianist. 5 stars!
OrangeSodaKing 2 years ago 2
After listening to Gundula Janowitz and Kiri Te Kanawa put this song to sleep, it's easier to appreciate the vocal assumption that Popp made here. She's a light-lyric soprano singing a song with such dramatic intensity that her voice nearly comes unglued. But what passion! This is why Popp may well have been the greatest female Schubert of interpreter of the modern era. Other vocalists graced this song with greater beauty but none with greater conviction.
Azzenstudent 2 years ago
Azzen. I know what you mean. It just shows that even Gundula and Kiri are not perfect.
swanningaround 2 years ago
@Azzenstudent ... and no one writes more lucidly or gets more to the heart of the matter!
BazzasBest 9 months ago
amazing... never get tired of Lucia Popp!!! One of the most expressive voices of the 20th century.
wayne2k33 2 years ago 6
Maravilloso.
andreagranadosa 2 years ago
Beautiful*********
ZsaZsadoll 2 years ago
her voice is GORGEOUS!
semprelegato 2 years ago 5
Quelle jolie voix ! Elle m'émeut toujours
Merci
jackylen57 2 years ago 3
The lovely Lucia Popp, beautiful voice. Thank you.
acatalano2641 2 years ago 2
i like this tempo the best.
and her tone - fab :)
kaylatrailor 2 years ago 4
Thanks for sending this to me.Another wonderful Schubert piece,beautifully sung.
lochness11 3 years ago 4
The accompaniment is so amazingly written!
joanna4659 3 years ago 13
mesmerizing
MrPHBarr1919 2 years ago
Very fine singer.She works about Goethe's poetry+ music perfectly.
saverioorlando 3 years ago 6
But what a talent Schubert was - he, a man, was able to feel the misery of Goethes Gretchen this profoundly...
timaenot 3 years ago 16
I believe he was still a teenager when he wrote this song, too
clam0391 2 years ago
Yeah, Schubert was 17 when he wrote this. It's his Opus 2. lol
JediLongOne 2 years ago 3
not lol what do you mean by lol? it is admirable, uncommon and just amazing that he could create so much tension in this piece!!!
toniatonne 2 years ago
@timaenot not a man... a 17 year old boy!!!!
Barbapippo 1 year ago
@Barbapippo Schubert was 17 years old when he wrote this??? seriously?
ProphetCassandra 9 months ago 4
@ProphetCassandra yes! He composed this lied in 1814
Barbapippo 9 months ago
@Barbapippo yes! so crazy!!! what a genius!
sprayberryjoy 6 months ago
Her voice suits the song so well! Beautiful, emotionally nuanced and deeply felt performance!
timaenot 3 years ago 6
WOW! I love her smooth expression. And the beauty of the rich sound.*****
hiflynblues 3 years ago 5
Lucia Popp is one of my favorite singers... BUT this reading is seems a bit planned. To take one of the seminal songs of all and give it such a planned and controlled reading is a bitdisappointing. I do no hear the desperation i crave here/
theropodia 3 years ago
Strange but very interesting interpretation. Until today I just knew the recording by Christa Ludwig and it's played way faster. Ôo
AccidentalTouch 3 years ago
Mhm, I did this song for a performance(There was an accompaniment cd with my music book) and it was much faster than this. It sounds much better faster. It's more spinning wheel like.
CptJackSparrowLove 3 years ago
Irwin Gage.
Azzenstudent 3 years ago
I like this recording very much, because Lucia didn't sing the song with the shrill and "dramatic" timbre often used by singers of the "second row".
Here the melody just flows quite seamless.
Thanks a lot!
LLehmannfan 3 years ago 5
Me encanta, el lied y la intérprete.
Musettaprof 4 years ago 3
Also Barbara Hendricks and Radu Lupu play the lied wonderful, excepting the german pronontiation of Hendricks
opiuytc 4 years ago 2
opiuytc. I would love to hear that! Radu Lupu is about my favorite pianist.
swanningaround 4 years ago 2
Anybody listened the recording with Schwarzkopf and Edwin Fischer? Nothing else matters.
opiuytc 4 years ago
I still think that Christa Ludwig is the best Gretchen am Spinnrade.
shearmanny 4 years ago
I still think that I should be working in college, helping all those young women perform Gretchen am Spinnrad *bösesgrinsen*
germanbigdaddy 4 years ago
She is just an awesome singer. Hands down!!!! I love her voice!!
pfhrsharp 4 years ago 2
This was lovely, but I think my favorite interpretation is still Jessye Norman singing this. Definitely worth a listen!!!
blairinnyc 4 years ago
Popp did sing Wagner (Eva, Elsa, and on record, Elizabeth). As she matured, her voice became "jugendlich dramatische", fuller and more sensuous. But it was never a big voice. I admired Popp's risk-taking but she was close to being the opposite of Birgit Nilssen.
Azzenstudent 4 years ago
Most singers are close to being the opposite of her!! With that voice no one could touch her!!!
AlexiouValenti 4 years ago
absolutely the best
Pathetikos 4 years ago 2
Brilliant. Absurd to suggest this Lied was outside here Fach....give me a break. Have a listen to the Fleming- Eschenbach recording for a real laugh. It sounds like pornographic verismo with the longest Kuss in history....roaring and exciting but not Schubert.
jm960 4 years ago 2
I don't know this recording but I heared the song live by Fleming some years ago and I had exactly the same impression. In French we say, it's du "chiqué", meaning that everything is prepared with effect in view. With Popp, we have a real emotion.
claraclairbert 4 years ago
Just to be clear, I'm an unapologetic Popp fan. Her artistry was first-rate. Great singers are judged not by the imperfections in their instrument (Callas would be the most obvious example here) but by their emotional idenitication in conveying the material at hand. Her vocal limitations notwithstanding, Popp was a major artist. I saw her perform at least a half dozen times and no one surpassed her in expressing a character's humanity.
Azzenstudent 4 years ago
Elly Ameling and Lucia Popp had different voices even thought they were both classified as lyric sopranos. As she matured, Popp's top began to narrow and her high notes often sounded forced, although she was still able to float ravishing pianissimi. Singers like Ameling, Edith Mathis, or Kathleen Battle were able to "bloom" at the top naturally - their voices didn't strain under pressure.
Azzenstudent 4 years ago
Come on, Schubert doesn't tax his singers technically. I think the high A near the end here is the highest note he ever wrote in a lied. Expression is everything.
gspaulsson 4 years ago
Co-sign on the top note observation except for Kathleen - she "bloomed" up to a C or C#6 but above that - ew. Listen to her "Una voce poco fa" or better/worse, "Grossmächtige Prinzessin". Everything above a D flat is dry and thiiiiis close to a scream.
MarcionusNovus 4 years ago
I disagree; I think she has a lot of beautiful sounds and great intensity.
baakal01 4 years ago 2
This is the best version of this song! Her voice is high and clearly without any pressure, but bright and free! Great!
CinnamonHunter 4 years ago 10
I have the same opinion as you!!! I don´t agree with the opinion of "Azzenstudent" - I don´t think, that this song was not for Lucia´s voice. She sings it incredible, without any slip!!! and also very dearly and feelingly *BRAVO LUCINKA*
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composed 17 years old!
KarlOFranz 6 months ago
As much as I love Popp, this song is simply wrong for her voice. The fortissimo on "dein kuss" really suffers for lack of heft. Popp, of course, was famous for singing outside her "fach". While I admired her courage, I used to think she was exposing her voice unnecessarily. Sometimes the overall result was worth the risk, but in this case, probably not.
Azzenstudent 4 years ago
Elly Ameling sang this. How could Popp's voice be wrong for this song?
PeterPetronovich 4 years ago
I know a 14 year old girl who sings this song beautifuly,in a very similar way to lucia!! I think that it is much better with a lighter (or younger ) voice but with plenty of emoition thana hefty voice with no emoition!!
oh and by the way are you aware that Lucia sang Wagner? I highly dount that anyone who could sing even the lighter wahner would have a voice too small for a lied!!
AlexiouValenti 4 years ago
I heard Popp sing at least a half-dozen times back in the 70s ( as Sophie, Susanna, Rosina, Zerlina, Despina). Her voice was small and easily got swamped by others in ensembles. I don't mean this as a criticism. She was who she was, and her voice was quite pure for this reason. Bigger voices almost invariably sacrifice tonal beauty for size.
Azzenstudent 4 years ago
Lucia Popp! Dakujem vám!
Glenmed 4 years ago
I love Lucia Popp! Thank God for this voice!
LaViolettaValery 4 years ago
Great singer with a very own sound, lovely and bright!
boekelman 4 years ago
Lovely rendition. Very heartfelt and passionate.. A great pic, too!
civileso 4 years ago