Haiku OS Test Demo October 2008

[oobimbuppap]

ms windows all versions are so shitty on purpouse... u HAVE to always get better stuff to run that shit ;)

g.cards sound etcetc... for games and software .. its just big buisness...

im amazed when i see 300 mhz old pentium runninng so many tasks as fast as my dual core on shitty vista ;)

me sory me bad english no good

cheerz.

[gotecki]

...nope it's Golden Axe! ;)

[fiorinovalentucci]

Sega OutRun!

[holypanl]

Wow. This OS is SO great at multitasking. I wonder how it draws that stuff so well? Amazing.

Ubuntu sticks on Youtube vids. This thing was playing a full length movie, and several #d graphics, plus about two other videos at once. Superb.

Is it POSIX compliant? Or was the creator able to port apps to an original platform? AWESOME.

5/5

[indieinvader]

Haiku is a OpenSource rewrite of BeOS which was POSIX compliant so I would guess yes

[darkenigma2652]

1. This video impresses me quite a bit. I've been researching BeOS and Haiku OS a bit more lately and I like what I'm hearing.

2. Your computer's stats are IDENTICAL to the older Sony Vaio desktop I'm on atm. The only difference is a different sound card, but it's still made by Intel.

[jokers32463]

i been wanting to test it, but will not show youtube videos or any videos,,, so i won't test it untill it can do that

[frak126]

Be prepared to wait for another decade. Though, that's a stretch for something that Firefox can do with a few userscripts. Just install the Greasemonkey VLC youtube plugin and VLC will become the default Youtube player.

[chinchilla2302]

I was watching this, then all of a sudden 원더걸스 haha..

One can only imagine what the hell OS X would be like today if Apple had decided to go with Be instead of NeXT.

[lostanthrax]

Неплохо

[CLUBPENGUINBOT]

wow stable. really fast i am surprised . i have been pretty used to ubuntu now

[alexxmidnite]

I've been following Haiku for a few years and every time I use a new version it gets a little better. It's nice to have a fresh alternative to the thousands of bland Linux distros out there. Don't get me wrong, I love Linux but it's nice to see some originality.

[ghostaliaz]

To Me Beos was the best OS ever created & it ran fast & on some of the slowest systems & on those slow systems it did 3D & ran several different things at once & any & everything else. These new OS's can not compare, not even a little bit. Beos Rules forever!

[stemcellfilms]

Would anyone recommend using Haiku over linux for a community college / public library installation? why or why not?

[cyborgtroy]

No, because Linux is much better supported, much more mature, and they're both free as in beer anyway.

[ZeceFackler]

are windows games workable on it?

[cyborgtroy]

No, it's a completely different kernel.

[ZeceFackler]

That is what i thought is there any chances of having cracks or something for it that let you use some windows games for it iv seen that done on macs before but idk if its possible for it.

[cyborgtroy]

It's not really a crack, it's more like you use a Windows compatibility layer like WINE.

Haiku isn't really consumer-ready yet anyway.

[ZeceFackler]

I would really like to know when it is likely to be ready I really like the sound of it.

[Dalnijrus]

Could you run them via a VM?

I'd really like to install Haiku to ditch Vista (though I run it fairly well, there are some hangups now and then), but I mostly game on this computer.

[cyborgtroy]

Run games through a VM?

Yeah, as long as they're like 12 years old and don't use any hardware acceleration like DirectX or OpenGL.

If you're going to play a lot of games, you really have to either buy a console or run a Windows computer.

[Dalnijrus]

I thought so...rats. I was hoping to minimize a lot of the extra size of Vista, as I don't use about 70% of the features but it's needed for some games (fairly common sob story lulz).

[cyborgtroy]

Yeah, Vista likes to take a lot of space.

I think there's a tool called "vLite" you should look into. It lets you take some of the unnecessary stuff off your Vista install disc.

You'll have to re-install Vista to use the modified version, but you can save a lot of space by chopping off tablet PC stuff, voice recognition, etc.

[Dalnijrus]

Hm, thanks! I'll see about using that.

[iPissOnZOG]

u have golden axe music playing

[jeffreyparke]

could you supply a link to that wallpaper, Please? I love it!

haiku rocks

[jrash2000]

It's called Red and Gold, from Digital Blasphemy

[TengriAsura]

Anyway, long live BeOS!!! I have a close relative who used to love BeOS and still cherishes his fond memory of BeOS.

[TengriAsura]

Forgive me that I'm not very well-verse with Haiku, does Haiku use Linux kernel?

[jrash2000]

The Haiku kernel is derived from the NewOS Kernel. NewOS is an operating system project developed primarily by Travis Geiselbrecht, a former BeOS kernel engineer. It was chosen because of its similarity to the BeOS Kernel.

[TengriAsura]

So, is Haiku a clone or quasi-clone of BeOS? Interesting.

[jrash2000]

The aim of the Haiku project is to create an OS that is binary compatible with BeOS R5. Most of the applications in the demo are BeOS apps running on Haiku.

[markoresko]

Is it true that you can`t use mutliple user logon on Haiku and that security between users is not very high?

[jrash2000]

The R1 release, because it is aiming for compatibility with BeOS R5, will not have multi-user support. This is planned for the R2 release though.

[blahdelablah]

Golden Axe, choon!! I do like the thought of using Haiku as my main OS, hope the project continues to grow in strength.

[rolloLG]

As Amiga user I show my respects to Haiku.

The alternative OS world is not only Linux, there's something even better...

[jrash2000]

Amiga RULED. I still have joystick thumb from Turrican II

[masique]

@rolloLG the main kernel hacker of Haiku, Axel Dörfler came to BeOS world from Amiga world. Maybe you should try ? :)

[MacSociety]

Can someone in the know tell me what advantages using Haiku OS are over say a Mac running OS X.5 or other more common OSs. I have always been interested in old BeOS but never really used it. Why would I want to get Haiku OS? tj

[Riot904]

It supports every video codec, and it's much more stable.

[jrash2000]

Well Haiku is still pre-alpha and OSX has been stable for years, but I can give you some features it will have over OS X. First, the entire OS is multithreaded, which means almost every button, text box, window, etc is a thread. that means that if your program is rendering a webpage, you can still open menus, view other pages etc. The Finder in OS X is an example of a unithreaded app, if you view a preview and the Finder window locks up, all of the Finder including the desktop stops responding.

[jrash2000]

Another reason is that Haiku uses the Object Oriented BeOS API, which is considered to be one of the best GUI API ever written, except for a few gotcha like a proper text layout engine, but the Haiku Team have already made changes to fix these issues. Also, The OS has a very small footprint, around 80-100MB for the default install including Firefox. It is not very optimized at this point but I have installed it on slower machines like a dual PIII 800 and the performance was decent.

[jrash2000]

Also, The OS is built from the ground up to be a Desktop. The Kernel, Scheduler, GUI Layer, ABIs, etc. have been designed and fine tuned to serve as a Desktop OS. In Haiku, optimizations are made in the kernel to directly affect the responsiveness of GUI system, Audio system, etc. Linux, which is a Unix-like kernel, but with X11, GNOME/KDE, and Apps running on top, can seem unresponsive if X11 or Gnome/KDE slow down, because these are treated like regular processes to the Linux kernel.

[cusbrar1]

I compiled from SVN/installed Haiku on a machine nearly identical to the demo machince that was used in the BeOS videos (dual PII 300mhz 512ram no video accel) I found that ram usage was pretty high probably due to debugging symbols not being stripped out and also it wasn't nearly as proformant as BeOS seemed to be playing multiple video streams and rendering opengl in software is still pretty slow on Haiku although once switched to GCC 4 and LLVM is integrated with Mesa perhaps things will pick

[jrash2000]

Hmmm, sometimes regressions can occur, especially in a source tree as active as Haiku, this could cause a slowdown. Keep in mind that the videos played in the BeOS demos were tiny compared to modern videos like the ones in this demo. I have a dual PIII 800 machine with 512mb of ram that dual boots BeOS R5 and Haiku and honestly I can't tell the difference between the two, except for the fact that BeOS's user mode network stack is slow as molasses compared to Haiku's integrated networking.

[cusbrar1]

interesting... you have a point there although I know the HW is perfectly capable of playing back DVDs on linux will have to test more

I was told the scheduler was not nearly on par with the scheduler in BeOS ... CPU usage fluctuating wildly between CPUs instead of steady uasge levels

[UzY3L]

Free.Designed from the ground up to use as little system resources as possible and to be as fast and stable as possible.Of course,being a Mac user you probably have the later two,but this thing is fast light ;) One other thing would be that there are no viruses for it.And it's free (when it comes out).And I'm guessing that third-party software will be free too.Except for the Firefox load,it's faster than anything I've ever seen.Try to do all that in windows or Mac ;)

[myzae]

hey... i love that Korean girls, they're so cute, rite?! love the haiku too, by the way.

[reactos23]

Really impressive!

[whiteguysamurai]

I can't wait for this to be fully released, but i fear it might take at least another two years.

[IoSonoIoProprioIo]

is there a real risk to lose my data or can i simply test the latest pre-alpha build on my productive machine booting with my usb-drive? is there a live-modus like in most linux-distributions?

[jrash2000]

As long as you don't mount any of your other disks read/write, you should be fine. To boot from a USB drive you will need to use dd in Linux or flashnul on Windows to write the latest raw image to your usb drive. Haiku auto configures the hardware at boot, so if your system hardware is supported it should just work.

[irfan9727]

Use Virtual machine instead, no risk at all!

[GohanDBZ]

The best OS ever!

Do you know when it is going to be released?

[jrash2000]

Word on the street is end of the year for Alpha1, the developer preview, but I can see it being pushed into 2009. The current revision is usable, it is just missing a few essential parts to do a proper install and it has some unresolved bugs that could cause data loss. The machine I am posting this from has an uptime of 4 days, 15 hours (Haiku R27919), pretty good for a pre-Alpha!

[hekar]

Really excited about HaikuOS, I'm just wondering how the code has gotten this far without the massive popularity of operating systems that run on Linux or the BSD group. I think a few years in the future and Haiku will be a stronger competitor for the desktop. They took a smart approach in the focus of a desktop where as many open source applications lack focus and you find the Linux kernel to be a mix for the desktop and server.

[jrash2000]

The machine in the video dual boots Ubuntu, that is what I use to compile and install Haiku. When I upgraded the video card to an Nvidia one, Ubuntu freaked out and would not let me change the resolution above 800x600. It took about 45 minutes of messing with Xorg configuration files to get it to work. Haiku however had no problem with the video card, even though it is pre-alpha. That is why I think it will a viable alternative to at least desktop Linux, people want it to just work, no BS.

[hekar]

I understand what you mean, I have few problems using Fedora as my primary desktop, but only because I've been using Linux for 5 years. If I had not and if I had no knowledge of coding along with the underlying GNU/Linux system, I'd get no where with the operating system. I still believe that Linux holds true to being a niche operating system for developers. It's by far the best development environment. There's not enough room to explain why, but the Xorg config file will be a thing of the past.

[jrash2000]

The biggest problem with Linux is that they constantly break APIs. I should be able to compile a GTK2 application against any version of GTK2 and it should work, and if I have a GTK2 binary it should be able to use any version of the GTK2 shared libraries. Not freezing the APIs has turned what should be a simple drag and drop install into a massive tanged mess that requires databases and repositories to keep track of. In BeOS/Haiku, you unzip a file and drag it into /boot/apps.

[hekar]

yeah, it's speed of development over compatibility, I rather have speed of development as I'd like Linux software to have an edge over Microsoft.

It's really hard to keep compatibility whilst reworking a library, just look at Vista.

[irfan9727]

So, Haiku ROCKS!!!

Cant wait for the R1 Release. This will be the next big thing!