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  • did you ever do any efie o2 sensor or maf enhancers?

  • So the basis of this is that it's using extra energy from the alternator that is otherwise wasted?

  • How much mph r u getting

  • James Bryer as I'm the fisherman...

    They won't let me post the link...Thanks...

  • James Bryer as I'm the fisherman...

  • Thanks HybridWaterMan, there are a number I have seen and worked on under my own hood for over 30 years..

    .And have post those results on numerous PUBLIC SITES...

    Had all kinds of threats and still doing it...

    And You'd be surprised at what You may discover if You Care to explore these articles and hyper-links...I'm also on FB if You Care to join me there...

  • It would be nice to know your results. We try to encourage our customers to write in and tell us how they did. Some struggle and others get incredible results easy. It depends on the hho generator, size of the engine, and the quality of the install as well as the type of car. Some work better than others...

  • look's like one of the guys that does not want to tell the secret.

  • @jabemer , Thanks as I was waiting for You to get serious...lol...

  • does any one understand wha he is saying ?

  • @jborbon101 ...Thanks for Sharin'...How may I help You...in Your Understanding...

    ...As it is quite simple, really...

  • @jborbon101 ........oh he wasn't speaking......he was just mumbling something, only he knows. No one else does.

  • @AcceleraTube Thanks for Sharing, Accel...May God Bless...

    As most who are interested in such things usually don't need any coaching as

    they are all usually smart than me as they usually tell me so...But I'd be happy to answer Your questions about any of it as I have a description of all this on a blot which I have posted under my profile, if You are interested...Thanks...

  • I don't get it. Whats the point?

  • Well Mad zyz, you have to read the comments on the first page where you can select the next video from my home page. As I have released the info as how I have done this...

  • Yeah but I installed a electrolyzer in my jeep and saw no difference. I used exhaust gasses to bubble out of it and used a PWM. Then I did a little reading on the internet and so far no independent lab has been able to substantiate the claims made by the people selling plans or even kits. I mean a 20% improvement? No way.

  • Man, they aren't letting me post this link here. Let me guide you another way. Why Water Won't Improve Your MPG: A PM and Dateline NBC Investigation

    Popular Mechanics senior automotive editor Mike Allen . Comment 134 and watch for tomorrows update as I have posted the details of my multi-cell electrolyzer for yoyr comparsion...

  • I will post links on my side bar on my front page...

  • I read it and your comment, but you are talking about modifying a throttle body inject. They stopped using that in the 80's everything now is sequential multiport fuel injected. What does that have to do with these HHO electrolyzer things?

  • Everything as it works on anything with a throttle plate and the computerized throttling takes a little moretime I have even posted instruction for that as well. Check it out and spead the word. Let's all get it done.

  • Get what done? Whats this stuff about dremmeling the throttle body? Are we talking about HHO or something else?

  • Well it could help you with yours in that it does enhance the effects of HHO. Or it has with mine as you have seen all of my videos, haven't you? As you can see better in my 2 vid of test driving it where I am gainning one to three more miles per Hour, with the cruise control set on 72 mph...

  • Of course I am using two electrolyzer too.

  • And today Popular Mehanics should be posting details of my muli-cell unit that I used to haul RVs around from Elkhart, IN to Ft. Worth, TX. Over 2000 miles round trip...As I submitted to that same site that I directed you to yesterday...

  • Well i already had my throttle body re-bored and I installed throttle body spacer to increase my intake manifold volume but all that did is give me better throttle response and a little more power. But most people who advertise these HHO's claim improvements in mileage, something I or any independent testing facility have never achieved.

  • Well you need to modify it like I said to modify it and then see what it does then build the multi-cell electrolyzer the one I have describe in Detail and try it then let us hear what you have to report...As it is what has worked for me for 30 years...Thank you for you input here...

  • Come on folks, this stuff is to good to be leaving on th shelf for 30 yrs. Check out the whole site. Who knows, you just might learn something. Show me some support by rating this a 5 Star video. Tell all your friends. Let's get some interest here.

  • Update, Got over 95,000 miles on it. Still runs as good as the day I modified it. Even after 30,000 mile oil change, with no loss of power.

  • And that is with the same oil filter. Can anyone guess how much that saved me?

  • Show me that your reading this by rating this video a 5 and I will reveal more if you are interested.

  • Check this video out...."Salt Water into Fuel part 2".

    Back to subject, smart/tidy looking unit. What config do you run on your cell.

  • Any thoughts, ideas or suggestions on how to keep the water from freezing in the cell this winter when not in use?

  • Yes Partwerks, isopropyl alcohol works pretty good around here and up to Elkhart, IN. and back. I used about a 1/3 of the bottle to treat about 2.5 gallons of distilled water and white distilled vinegar which was measured

    at 5 to 6 amps at cold start before and after the alcohol was added because the alcohol does change the continuity of the solution. I used 90% isopropyl alcohol I got at Walmart for $1.99 for a quart.

  • I dont think it matters if it freezes as long as your container doesn't split. The power from the cell will soon warm and defrost the water. Ice is still water after all so the power Will still pass through it.

  • rubbing alcohol

  • Yes, it is rubbing alcohol but the kind that I referred to above is more concentrated at 90%. Plain Jane rubbing alcohol is usually 70%

  • It should be noted here that the T going to the PCV valve has been removed because when under load of hauling it caused the computer to set a code.

  • HOW many HHO can you put in maximum for a truck lie that.

  • Well I have managed to put 4-11-plate system which can be controlled individually from the cabin, in the space where the air filter box goes. Why?

  • Regarding o2 sensors and efie etc. I never tried foil. I just made an efie for about $5.

    2- 10Megaohm resistors connected in line with a 1- Megaohm linear potentiometer. 12 V goes in and 0-0.25V goes out. Don't know electronics, but this seems to do the job.

    Have a saturated cell I designed with bubbler/reservoir combined so water circulates and helps cooling. Adding a 2nd cell with a microswitch on accelerator that switches on when depressed for extra boost. each cell produces 1.5L/min

  • This is nothing to get excited about, there's a guy here on youtube who'll show you how to recharge your Ipod with an orange in 15 minutes! He also shows you how to make a high fidelity speaker from a penny, some tin foil and a paper plate. Thanks to the gullibility of the greater masses of people, we now believe that a handful of Arab adolescents outfoxed our national defense system and wiped out the twin towers, hit the pentagon and killed 4,000 of our citizens ALL WITHOUT HELP FROM WITHIN!

  • hahah how many morons will open there JAWS and jabber their nonsence with out doing or testing crap out for them selfs . HHO it 100% true and 100% fuctional.

    Plz open your mouth more so i can make fun of the little yellow buss riders

  • hey if you had a car battery,jumpers and 2 stainless steel screws you two can make hho. we are all doing it. and 911 was an inside job. live free or die.oil is over.  w3therandirhodesshow dot com

  • Who is the guy on Youtube that can charge a ipod with an orange?

  • Electrolysis doesn't just make hydrogen, it also produces oxygen which seems more likely the reason these units work. A turbo-charger is designed to put more air(21% Oxygen and 78% nitrogen) into air/fuel mix and produces greater HP at a cost, but it does work! No-one is calling turbo-chargers impossible, but when we separate h2o into hydrogen AND oxygen and then combine with gasoline, skeptics think they can use math equation of basic electrolysis as "truth".

  • Ive read on here that someone just wrapped the sensor with tinfoil and it seamed to work. Im not sure what make of vehicle it was.

  • You can wrap your O2 sensors in aluminum foil and it will lessen their ability to sense oxygen. thus leaning the mixture.

  • your car company sells alternative fuel sensors which includes a oxygen sensor replacement part so that your car's computer doesen't read the alternative fuels wrong. they cost about $100.00

  • Are you saying Chevy is selling them?

  • How many amps are your two generators using? Please give us a run down on your vehicle mileage with and without the efie.  Where did you get your information on the damage too the engine when the oxygen sensor was disconnected?. Signed Looking for improvements!

  • The info about amps are under that title listed in the videos. And I haven't installed

    the efie as I am looking for a better design with more functionality. Hassist, I don't think the part about,"Where did you get your info..." qas directed to me as I never made that statement but I will address it now since you asked.

  • Disconnecting the O2 sensor will not harm the engine in of itself but some cars will not go into closed loop if it isn't connected or the check engine light is on. And no pulling the light bulb out of the check engine light will not help anything.

  • What is this EFIE trick?If you pull this sensor the car will not start at all and you will damage the angine for sure!I haven't cut the fuel and i have supercars MPG at my car...I will damage it if i run it like this?

  • Fuel injected cars or trucks you should install an EFIE cause the oxygen sensor in you vehicle is telling the computer of your vehicle that the fuel to air ratio is lean and tells the fuel pump to give it more fuel. You will see a slight increase in MPG with out an EFIE since the HHO is burning the fuel more efficiently but the vehicles computer thinks it is not and waisting a lot of fuel. An EFIE tricks the vehicles computer to decrease fuel consumption and increase reliance on the HHO.

  • Thanks for your comment and I've been working on that but the problem with tricky the computer is that if the engine is in a lean condition caused by a stopped up fuel filter for example, you could cause damage to your engine if you didn't catch it in time.

  • well get that fuel filter changed there only about $12.00 if you can install 2 hho gens you should have no problem changing the fuel filter

  • coiuldnt you just pull the oxygen sensor out and let it hang? or perhaps take it out and cover it with an epoxy, or some form of air resticting substance.

  • Well BC critters, the way I understand the O2 sensor to work is that it has to maintain 600 degrees F. atleast 5 min. after it cranks and its

    voltage that it produces has to vary, otherwise the computer will set a code. I plan to try the EFIE from Eagle research co. to see if I can make that work. But good suggestion though and I don't want it not to be able to detect a too lean condition as this will just cause engine damage later on. And thanks for your comment.

  • hmmm i didnt know about the 600 degree part.

    whats confusing is how the booster can affect the O2 sensor. after all, burning H-H-O together produces water, something the o2 sensor is not meant to measure. unless the water vapor is somehow shorting out the o2 sensor, but then that would tell the computer you are running to rich, not lean.

    what am i missing here?

  • Well BC, it will detect only the unburnt O2 in the exhaust stream and if the computer doesn't see the varying voltage, it will set a code and if it can't maintain it parameters whether rich or lean it will set a code. The computer has whats called a block learner circuit which it remembers how it is driven and it is constantly trying to lean itself out within these set parameters and is why it has to see varying voltage in order to know that it is affecting these voltage readings

  • alright then, keep us informed of your progress when you install the EEFI please.

    thanks

  • Oh ok, I thought you saying gas car to separate it from gasoline and diesel. Yes, a regular gasoline burning car usually drops the HP when you turn on the A/C. And I am sure that one day you as well as alot of

    people will have these if not better units on their cars as there is a lot of people working on it. Just don't give up.

  • Well in the our gas car, with the a/c on, it loses hp and mpg. My brother turns his off to get more power. Good project!

  • How many HHO Generators are you running? And I also have one installed in a 2004 Chevy Impla with a 3.8 liter engine that the only way you can tell it,s on other than the indicator lights is it starts blowing cool air, no loss of power with it on or off.

  • I said gas car, so as to not confuse it as being run on water. I dont have any hho generators but i hope sometime in the future i can build one or buy one and install it in my car. Sorry for confusing you. I like all you guys that are doing these projects! hope i can join you someday.

  • awesome man!

  • looking good! What kind of savings are you making with this unit?

  • Well this one was getting 18 mpg on the highway without the A/C on. And has gotten 24 mpg with the A/C

    on.

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